/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32398222
Cover hired slut when they should've hired whores.

Kromei shippers deserve the rope

>>32398222
Killed in the crib. At the same time none of them are really that entertaining and they have non-existent chemistry as a gen so they never really recovered.

>>32398342
What about Krogis?

>>32398222
Why the fuck aren’t you subbed to fauna?

>>32398222
>Male collaber Rrat getting close to Fauna
Uhh incelsisters...? I found a flaw in our image.

>>32398222
Sana could've streamed at least ONCE more

>>32398360
And the sad part is that these losers can still coast and be mediocre for as long as they want, since all they have to do is voice act and do what mane-chan demands.

>>32398526
You realize she was ahead of Fauna until July, then Fauna started passing her, right? The trajectories are not moving in the direction you think they are.

>>32398222
wtf how come fauna has way less subs than mumei? its funny how i watched fauna a few times recently and i didnt even think about looking up the sub number.

>>32398722
Which was around the time Fauna began to aggressively poach the coomer audience.

>>32398833
She filtered people by making them believe she was going to be ASMR heavy and be a uwu soft cute girl and it took them a bit to realize she's anything but.

>>32398833
Mumei cute, she also leeched out of Kronii early on, she has been behind kronii for 100-90k

>>32398857
>Which was around the time Fauna began to aggressively poach the coomer audience.
She passed Bae before the Cowkini shit. Come on dude.

>>32398833
Mumei used to stream a fucking lot more and she had a cinderella story going for her, what with starting off a cute nervous wreck and evolving in unexpected ways every stream as well as taking her substantial RM following with her along with some virulent antis which worked out well to create an us vs them siege mentality. And then she became a mediocre bitch that only does yabshit and middling covers.

>>32398943
>pandering to coomers began with the cowkini
retard

>>32399140
Please fucking specify what she did to pander to coomers dude.

>>32399163
>cites an example of pandering to coomers
>LOLOLOLOL Y U NO SAY HOW SHE PANDER TO COOMERS
like I said, retard

>>32399163
Not the person you were replying to but there was the feet fetish fanart before they debuted

>>32399280
Ah, frick.

>>32398526
Subs get boosted by outside collabs like what she did with mouse. It doesn't help her in any other metric though.
Ollie's in a similar, but more extreme, situation where she has over a million subs can still regularly dip to sub-1k viewers.

>>32399278
No, you said she aggresively poached the coomer audience. I told you she passed Bae before the Cowkini, in which your response was that she did it BEFORE the Cowkini. So I ask you, again, what the fuck did she do to aggressively poach the coomer audience before the cowkini that got her to pass Bae?

>>32399280
>has bare feet
>it's her fault people fetishize the feet even if the only time she ever mentioned it in an even REMOTELY suggestive way was because of Sana and has literally not done anything feet related since
?

>>32399429
>moving goalposts
retard

>>32398894
>Mumei leeched from Kronii
>Their gap started rapidly shrinking when she ditched the clock
found a flaw in your rrat, kronie

>>32399482
Okay you clearly have no argument if you're going to try and say I'm moving the goal posts. Have a good day.

(You) happened.
(You) didn't support them enough.

>>32399482
>>32399429
I mean, there was this whole debacle

With Sana gone, Bae is last of the surviving Council members. How did she lose so much ground after that Fe-Bae-ruary event of streaming each day?

>>32399626
She's boring and takes too many breaks and the only time she really gets any boost in subs is when she collabs with other people.

>>32398222
Sana's dog hort, and that killed council collabs and gen unity.
Only Mori was actually interested in working with them early on.
They could never understand if they were doing GFE or yuribaiting, and suck at both.

>No strong leader
>No one stepped up to organize collabs
>None of them seem to know what to do, or what kind of identity they wanted to give off
>No strong creative types
>No particular talent that would make one of them stand out(drawing or singing for example).
>All of their kino group moments tended to feel incomplete because Sana was never there for them
>They still feel like Myth accesories when they do collabs(outside of SNOT).
>The vtubing landscape has changed since Myth, many more people to watch now.

>>32400663
Who made the original art ? I saw that image edited as many characters/vtubers but I have no idea where its from.

>>32399696
The Petra of HoloEN...

>>32398548
funny how her back stopped hurting after being allowed to stream chinese gacha games

>>32400945
She should get raped for supporting the people who harassed Coco out of the company

>>32399543
the ship is still pretty popular, also they just had the fanfic reading a few weeks back, watch more streams.

Kronii, Mumei, and Bae still feel embarrassingly inexperienced after over a year of streaming. Their streams are filled with dead air or incoherent babbling. None of them can string together more than a sentence or two before repeating themselves or going silent. Fauna has the best natural chops for streaming but she wastes too much time on a lot of bad games and ASMR content literally no one watches. I don't know who Sana is or why she's included in this post.

This was the gen where they lost me. I don’t even have a huge problem with anyone but they just don’t feel very strong or compelling to watch alone.

>>32401518
Because you don't watch them

>>32400663
This. Failed Gen. But then again, filling 2020 Myth's shoes would've been a tall task for anyone.

>>32401456
Out of the first three you mentioned Mumei has changed quit a bit, she was awful the first months

Mumei!!!

>>32401125
the ship is popular, that doesn't mean Mumei leeched.

>>32401676
No, no. I do. I’ve been in Mumei’s membership for almost 10 months but I don’t like her as much as Ina or Pekora. I think I’m just jaded.

>>32400663
>They still feel like Myth accessories when they do collabs(outside of SNOT).
Only because they don't want to make their sempais look bad.
Look at how Kronii humiliated Gura during the Minecraft festival if you want to see how she'd act if the shackles were unleashed.

>>32401456
>. Fauna has the best natural chops for streaming but she wastes too much time on a lot of bad games and ASMR content literally no one watches.
80% of Fauna's top 30 most viewed videos are ASMR.

>>32402438
NO WAY
THE THING DESIGNED TO BE LISTENED TO OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAS HIGHER VIEWS THAN HER VODS! SO
FUCKING
SHOCKING

Retard

>>32399696
Not only are saplings obsessed numberfags, they also cherry pick shit without knowing why they happened
Good to know

Each of the Myth girls had a strong narrative arc beginning shortly after debut and Council never replicated that. People aren’t as passionate about Council because they don’t have as much to care about. The girls were handed success and didn’t do anything interesting with it.

>>32401518
Every time I think of Fauna's ASMR, I'm reminded of the colorblind kid from Little Miss Sunshine who wanted to become an air force pilot.

>>32398222
>good
Fauna
>ok
Mumei
>meh
pre damage control Kronii
>shit
current Kronii
Bae
>ded
Sana

>>32399626
she barely streamed in july blaming usa travel lazy bitch

>>32399626
She spent like a month not playing games, which is fine, but still the main content people expect.

>>32402731
only Kiara has had a good arc. Mori has become more of a messy alcoholic, which is an arc but its not good. Ina just streams less. Ame and Gura stream less and also lost braincells.

>>32403338
>and also lost braincells
they never had them

>>32398222
They showed Myth to be a dysfunctional gen that failed to monopolise the EN market and created such a fractured incoherent fanbase that their fanbase hate each other.
When a Gen with actual unity and chemistry appeared Mythfags haven't been able to COPE with the fact that all of Myth prefer Council.

>>32398222
Kronii could be at 1 mil now if she streamed consistently.

I still don't understand that Kronii has the most subscribers.

>>32403681
>when a gen with actual unity and chemistry appeared
what gen is that?

>>32404410
tits (or you can be flat), nice model, and nice voice. that's literally all you need to succeed as a female vtuber

>>32398526
Look
Bae is a crazy, dick hungry rat

Every anon on /vt/ has a non-zero chance of fucking her. That's just a fact. Take the whorepill.

>>32404837
I hate her voice.

>>32398222
Council tourists are getting bored and moving on. They'll be back though to pretend someone from EN3 is their oshi

>>32398568
>>32398360
And the manager is retarded and just kind of let them do that, which set the stage for Holox and Holohero to also be lazy except for Koyori and Kaela keeping shit together. HoloEN's real problem is that the West doesn't have "autistic 1view chick who desperately wanted to make it big" like SEA and Japan do.

>>32404717
Even if you hate Council, they actually have chemistry and like eachother. They'd be better off replacing Kronii with IRyS, but the clock still does a decent job of pretending to care about the rest.

>>32402205
That is the mind of a typical numberfag. If 2 chuubas collab and one of them has bigger numbers, the one with lower numbers is leeching no matter how organic the collab is or if they are friends for real (like, IRL) or not.

>>32398526
Anon bae was higher for awhile

>>32398857
Cope homonigger

Bae didn't get the ironlung buff?

>>32402787
Jesus, so I should try her stuff out? I’ll admit I’m not a huge ASMR guy. I basically only listen to it when Towa did it. But I’ve heard fauna is good at it. Whatever that means.

>>32407087
>I’ve heard fauna is good at it.
Are you sure you're not misremembering hearing the opposite? She's by far the worst ASMR artist I've listened to that uses a KU100, the general consensus is her ASMR is awful.
I'm a day 1 sapling, I love her and I stay for the games but her ASMR is just... bad.

>>32408481
lel Fauna is my oshi and I haven't ever listened to a single second of any kind of ASMR and I have zero intention to.

>>32408481
For real? Maybe I interpreted nice voice with (good at it). I don’t know what the metrics are here. People do talk about her ASMR stuff though so I was wondering.

ITT: Kiwifarmers seething

>>32404991
>Every anon on /vt/ has a non-zero chance of fucking her.
This applies to all members of Hololive, Anon.

>>32398222
normalfags hate ASMR and i hear some "people" don't like her voice
kronii is like that since debut because people see tits hear sex voice and subscribe
mumei knows how to be cute
no idea what's with bae, maybe lack of content for the zoomers and koreans that watch her
no idea what's with sana, how the fuck did she get nearly 400k by doing fuckall

>>32409589
She has a nice voice, but the actual sound quality of her ASMR is terrible. I'm a complete imbecile when it comes to audio so I couldn't even tell you what she does wrong, but go listen to Noel's ASMR and compare it to hers, the sounds Noel is able to produce are way crisper and more enjoyable to listen to.

>>32402520
>ASMR content literally no one watches
>Her ASMR content is the most watched
>You're the retard
Actual retard

>the best one has the second lowest subs
>the worst one in all of EN has the most
This shit is a massive blackpill.

>>32398222
They had a ton of their subs removed after their debuts, which never happened to other Hololive members. Bots or not, this was exclusive to them.
Apart from that, they never got the normie attention that Myth did with the Vtuber surge in 2020. JOPs probably didn't sub to them as much as they did with Myth either.

The sub numbers will converge eventually and the CCV numbers will be the only thing that matters.

>>32402371
She did that because she thought Gura wasn't streaming kek

>>32398833
i bet my ass its her voice, gimmicky voice tend to be unpopular in the west. she also kind of bambozzle her new viewer because people kind of expect her to be the asmr girl because of her voice but she isnt one.

>Lets put people 8 hours apart in the same gen
Actual fucking idiots.

>>32398222
All are cockslutss

>>32398222
What went wrong?

>>32421293
Holostars is the definition of a dead branch.

>>32398222
Why didn't you unsubscribed all of them?

32421293
this is bait but whatever
Holostars was never a renown branch of Cover's vtuber projects, they built up Hololive as this "cute girls doing cute things together" group and the male talents came in 2 years into Live's existence, as a project Yagoo funded and pushed for himself and it was more like a group of friends he invited to be vtubers.
Nijisanji's males get more consistent views live and on VODs because they came to be close to Mito's debut and every gen has always been mixed. Also Niji invests a LOT in advertisement, a thing Cover couldnt afford for a while

>>32399626
Being a chink

>>32398222
>the one trying to cultivate two fanbases is dead last
and history repeats itself

>>32420754
wait what the fuck is her gimmick then, I've literally never watched her

>>32423970
adorable pro-gamer mommy

>>32398222
Mumei's cute

>>32398222
based mubae shipper

>>32423970
First couple of streams actually showed that Fauna is one of the few rare girl gamers in Hololive (both EN and JP).

>>32398222
u sub to Bae?
you nuts?

Hololive is a fucking ticket to success, literally all you have to do is stream. Unless you're Ayame, then you don't even have to do that much. But the Council girls aren't Ayame, they didn't stream, and that's why HoloX surpassed them despite debuting later and having a much smaller audience. (compare the JP audience to the EN)

Just fucking stream.

>>32399482
the low IQ one in here is u
she did poached the commer audience
but it was obviously during the milkers arc
not before,
and reality is before she was passing everyone.

Bae was supposed to be the "leader" of Council just like Kiara was supposed to be the "leader" of Myth. It eventually backfired but Myth got in the right time with a lot of girls that were recognizable. However, as for Council, nobody knew who the fuck they were except of ONE specific individual. Also none of the ENs are unicorn friendly, except Gura, Kiara and unironically Fauna.

If you are following this, you can see a specific pattern on my post of a schizo who forgot to take his meds.

>>32398222
Nothing? Myth was first and has several amazing talents. If you judge Council against any other group, they're doing fairly well.

>>32425120
HoloX is a mistake

>>32398222
the girls were divided between college and relationships. their hours streaming were not very consistent either.
also, Vtubers were getting buffed by covid. After the pandemic, there is less people at home.

>>32420682
Exactly the point, if Kronii knew Gura was streaming she would have pulled her punches instead of showing she's the boss.

>>32398833
Moom seemed weak and spongeable and attracted omegamales who are into that.

>>32408481
I think your consensus of one is a bad sample. Fauna's ASMR is by far my favorite and I've been listening to Vtuber ASMR since Patra started doing it.

>>32399082
I was initially excited about Mumei since she was willing to experiment (stuff like the auto tune and guerrilla streams). Not sure what happened but it feels like that lost steam.

>>32424641

>>32421293
They get Niji Noctyx numbers, with a fraction of the subs, that's pretty decent.

>>32400663
No anon, this is a reasonable take. We don’t allow those here.

>>32399409
Ollie has the biggets decline I've seen in a vtuber, she has more than 1M subs but now It's like she doesn't exist.

>>32427135
they're like half council now, and they're by far the best EN streamers in Hololive

>>32398222
Too much breaks in critical moments. Kronii killed her momentum multiple times by taking breaks. Fauna and Mumei the same thing, it's like they are doing it on purpose. And the only one that does content is a zoomer rat that doesn't attract viewers, but she's the living example that by doing content you can compete with another 3 that were destroying you.

And we don't talk about Sana. EN3 needs more girls like Kiara or Ame that left everything just to concentrate on hololive

>>32425120
jp audiance should be much higher dont you think?

>>32425444
I mean Kiara still is kind of the leader, Ame takes the reigns for creative shit but Kiara is still the organizes big shit, something they haven't done much off since she got tired off nobody else stepping up.
>>32427777
Its crazy how many breaks council took, in the one year they existed, I'm pretty sure they took more breaks than Myth ever did or has.

ITT: experts acting like it’s then end of council for only reaching top 100 most subbed Vtubers.

>>32427777
>Kronii killed her momentum multiple times by taking breaks.
And yet she has the most subs in the group by a good margin, while having the least content (besides Sana of course), also by a good margin.
Not sure what that means, but it means something.

>>32398222
She's happier now

>>32428926
its her voice, if you see the interactions she has with the jp girls you can tell how wet they get when she talks to them.

>>32428926
Kronii's the most standout member of Council with her sex model, sex voice, and awkward straightman humor. Her male collab yab will fuck up her numbers in the long run, however.

>>32425120
the JP audience is way bigger than the EN audience. i don't know how you can even delude yourself into thinking they're not. gura's subs are all dead, anon. a full-generation myth collab can barely scrounge together 40k on a good day. any individual bottom-tier JP holo can easily get 100k for a special occasion. the entire EN sphere will likely never see numbers like that again.

>>32429790
She's been debuffing herself constantly so the male collab won't matter unless normalfags stop watching her.

>>32430688
that's the point she didn't grew big enough 1st
to attrect all various kinds of people before shitting on the skitzo that would stay and watch her for her sex voice

>>32431315
Kronii never cared though. Early on her CCV could give Gura a run for her money and was the number 2 in holoen. Kronii fucking hated the attention and deliberately stopped streaming for weeks at a time to chase off the less zealous Kronies. I would say as far as that she's the reason why Council had such shit growth as a generation since EN1 grew a lot on gura hype.

>>32429968
They saw numbers like that 9 months ago when Gura had her new outfit debut, but I guess 9 months is an eternity in vtubing.

>>32425120
>But the Council girls aren't Ayame, they didn't stream, and that's why HoloX surpassed them despite debuting later and having a much smaller audience.
HoloX didn't surpass shit. They're about equal to Council, all things considered when you consider subs, stream time, and average CCV. Bae, Fauna, and Mumei streamed more than 3 HoloX. Fauna and Mumei have greater average CCV than every HoloX, although Koyori has higher peaks.

>>32425120
>>32431529
More stats comparing gens.

>>32404410
People subscribe without watching her, it's 100% the tits and nothing else.

>Sana:
Legitimately one of the worst vtubers I've ever seen. Can't believe this horrorshow got hired by a major corporation. Ugly model. Fucked up ESL accent is impossible to decypher, streams were terrible, work ethic was nonexistent (I took 2 months off because my back hurt).
>Kronii
Haven't watched him much, but found him to be incredibly boring. Not really talking during games, just kind of saying "well that was nice". No charisma, no energy, certainly no laughter. His model has huge boobs and stick figure legs. Work ethic is terrible.
>Mumei
Basically boring. Makes a strange, unsettling noise every few minutes that people with no social awareness interpret as "cute". A quiet mumble-girl.
>Baelz
Awful ESL english accent that makes her unlistenable. Supposed to be a high-energy rat character but comes off as schizophrenic instead. Terrible work ethic, definitely not worth supporting.
>Fauna
Mediocre ASMR. High pitched voice is unique, but often can be annoying. She's a bit boring and low on charisma, but she can be comforting sometimes. Has a checkered past, not likely to appeal to unicorns. Maybe the only one worth watching on this list. But nothing to write home about.

Overall they are mediocre, lazy, and boring. Their group-dynamics are bad too, there's no chemistry.

>>32405253
Isn't that what Ame is? She streamed a lot in the 1st year, then made 3D assets used by a lot of Holo & a studio after that while still streaming decently.

>>32398222
Are most people here so new that they don't remember that Susan basically took 200-300k subs away from them? Newfags ruin everything.

>>32432538
>Fucked up ESL accent is impossible to decypher
Way to out yourself as an ESL

>>32432538
>>Kronii
>Haven't watched him much, but found him
Kek

>>32432853
You mean when Susan cull the bots?

>>32404717
Tempus

>>32398222
I like all of them.
they are more talented than Myth.

Council is legit better than Myth, and if you replace Sana with IRyS, then it would be my favorite Hololive generation. Let's compare:

Mori < Sana: A corpse of a VTuber would be better than Mori, which is exactly what Sana was, so even that's enough.

Kiara < Kronii: Not a fan of either, but at least Kronii is not faking at being pure and phoning it in, so slight advantage there.

Ina < Fauna: At the start of the year I probably would have said Ina, but it's obvious she's not attempted to be memorable in any way during her sophomore year, and this board echoes that. Fauna was unexpectedly addicting over the past year to me.

Ame > Bae: Love both, but slight advantage to Ame. She's still a creative icon, even if she fell off a bit. Bae can be hilarious, but can also be cringe when she leeches off IRyS.

Gura < Mumei: Mumei is literally my oshi, a perfectly messed up character that is almost an upgraded version of Gura. Still, you can't go wrong with the most-subbed icon either.

Okay, so when it comes to numbers, you can't tell me that Ina or Kiara would have 1.4M subs if they were part of Council, or that Mumei, Fauna or Bae would have 700k subs if they were part of Myth. They got fucked by the YT system and people cooled down on VTubing since the pandemic faded - Kobo is the only Vtuber that debuted since December 2020 to cross the million subs mark.

>>32432538
origin of male Kronii rrat?

>>32398222
You need to add 250K youtube culled from each of those.

Look at all these council cope lmao your whores literally suck and that's fact

>>32433996
>Kronii is not phoning it in, but Kiara is
Holy shit you are a fucking retard

Holy shit Bae and Fauna are close

>>32398222
>back hort
>bf
>blue'd
>bf
>distaff counterpart of "that guy" who joined holostars just to thirst after his oshi
Failed gen

>>32431529
Why can nobody dethrone Pregora, Miko and Subaru? Even Koyori who is literally a hard working girl is trying but she can't reach them.

>>32436548
Pekomiko and Subaru are the gold standards. I believe Koyori can get there eventually but it will take time for her to find her footing and her own niche.

>>32428926
That's the thing, Kronii had the potential, but lacks dedication and mental toughness. And just some mins ago she tweet that she's gonna go on another break, it's just incredible at this point. The 1st year of myth the only one not doing content regularly was Calli, and even like that she was kinda there with the music, but the other 4 had a schedule almost for every week for an entire year.

After a year the breaks and burnouts started, but those were well deserved vacations after breaking their backs to make HoloEN relevant. Besides Bae (most of the time) no one can mantain a good streaming schedule for 2 months. I don't say that they shouldn't take some breaks now and then, but at this point they have rested more than myth in just one year and they keep getting burned out more often than them. At least they are happy or idk

>>32432853
>>32434648
>subscribe to channel
>youtube removes your subscription
>don't bother subscribing again
So this happened to hundreds of thousands of people? Great fans they would have made.

>>32434648
It's been a year, are you people still clinging to that?

>>32431529
>>32431864
Gotta love when there’s proof that the usual shitposters aren’t dealing with reality.

>>32437386
Well considering the post was purely about subscription numbers I think its very relevant. The vast majority of subs for any vtuber are not going to interact with your content on a regular basis so your point is dumb.

>>32434074
Mumei said his cock was too small to be a girl's

>>32437386
It happened to HoloX too, it’s just that they spoke up about it, so people knew to check and re-subscribe. Back when it happened to Council, anons said they wouldn’t have known they had been unsubbed if they hadn’t seen posts on /vt/ about sub culling and checked.

>>32431529
>>32431864
Oh no no numberkeks, but you said to me that council didn't do good as they expected

>>32431529
a general vtuber plateau? i mean this hobby is too fucking weird to go mainstream in the west at least, and the scene in japan is super competitive. maybe they ran out of audience

>>32398222
There are like 30-40% incels/unicorns who dont realize that vtubing is a job and these people are no their friends. Apparently you are on of these loser OP.

>>32437758
Nijinigs rode the chink high with Luxiem, and JP partisans were banking on HoloX being another Sankisei due to debut month hype. Turns out the biggest shitheads in /#/ are delusional and living in the past.

I love council and will continue to. best part of council is when they collab, autism multiplies.
this thread is bait, but i'll take the opportunity to say my observations that would be shit stirring in global or generals.

mumei - my most watched. best #2. by that i mean collab partner. everyone likes mumei. almost everyone, the reine collab was painful. She needs to open her mouth when she speaks. she needs to relax. is afraid of dead air so just rambles stream of consciousness and makes noises. just speak when you want to speak. is not computer literate. doesn't seem to be a gamer. there are almost no examples of her playing a game that she would play off-stream. afraid to try or learn. decides if she doesnt know how to do something she would be unable to learn, where others would try or look it up. for example minecraft, tries digging around looking for noisy mobs, panics and gives up after failing. afraid to try building or decorating. seems to act like she thinks a tuber should act (korone for example), rather than how she wants to act. forcing it doesn't work. which is wierd sinice she watched ina pre-debut and likes to watch kaela. both chill streams. they talk when they want to talk and do what they want to do. fun comes first. so why is she so hesitant to let her hair down. Because of this, she is much better if she is not streaming and is on someones elses stream.
every degree of seperation between streaming herself and not, improves her. terrible music choice for bgm and intro.

Bae - should not of been chaos. because, she feels the need to act like she thinks she should act. it's like she is trying to be tubers like pewdiepie but doesnt realise those are edited and cut videos. tries to force high energy, high octane action, and constant funnies. even her speech. inserting funny sound effects (bruh), screaming, BEWM BEWM. its painful. if she would just relax. her chill voice is really nice. when watching others in collab or otherwise, she will be thoughtful and speak when she wants to speak. for example, when staring at others in mc. she gets on well with many. I kinda wish she'd do more with fauna, they seem to get on. wierd how little her and kronii interact, but if they don't feel like it works, then its up to them. good music choice.

fauna- second most watched. good. she is relaxed, thoughtful, willing to learn and try, actually likes video games, more tech literate. good relations with other talents. has the autism power that multiplies with snot. the design, voice, ASMR and lore scared me off at first. her voice seems normal to me now and i don't think she is faking it. her design has grown on me. good music choice. good use of avaliable tools: props, png stickers, OBS filters.

Kronii- i don't watch much kronii. tech literate. actually likes video games. autism power for collabs. brains first reaction to stimuli is to try and turn it into a quip or joke, comedian brain. very good music choice. People seem to complain about her not streaming enough, but i don't think thats a bad thing. if they don't want to stream, it's better not to force it.

>>32442124
want to reclarify the degree of seperation thing.
worst to best
mumei streaming a gamer herself<mumei streaming her pov for a game with someone<mumei not streaming her pov for a game with someone< art stream = just talking < not playing a game but on someone elses stream talking

>>32425778
you forgot to mention the covid buff, the original willingness of the JP fans to give them support and a talent who's og channel was on the verge of 1 mil subs when she joined

>>32398526
Bae and fauna have been within 10k of each other for the last 6 months

>>32398222
Council didn't do as well as expected. Its part of the reason EN3 may not happen since growth has been as close to stagnant as possible.

>>32398222
fulgur was right

>>32421293
Literally a runaway success when compared to JpStars.

>>32398222
>Mumei
do you enjoy the feeling of your brain melting and exiting through your nose?

>>32398526
Its the other way around, Fauna have recently passed Bae...

>>32427135
Yeah but Noctyx didn't do as well as expected.

>>32425901
i love la cunny and it breaks my heart shes been so shit at streaming, and isnt doing anything but doom spiraling over unlimited doxxs

>>32398450
why would anyone sub to that whore

>>32452857
anon she's the only council member that actually enjoys streaming

>>32434648
anon, all it did was probe Cover used bots to boost subs

>>32421742
We must not forget that the Holostars were once attacked and deeply traumatized by Hololive fans. The root of our current relationship with the HoloLives is nothing more than a feud with the HoloLives.

>>32428926
She also has 5 million less views than either of the other three in her gen

>>32398222
What happened is PEKORA BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32428781
People want a kobo, a Chloe, a Salome, a Gura Killer. Someone with who puts up such a good performance, they give you hope that EN vtubing hasn’t peaked yet. Instead Council has always felt like a step down.

>>32421293
subs mean shit anon