/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32392759
>Not a chance she renews her contract next year,

why

>>32392759
well she should use her holo fame to get as many voice roles as possible if she's going to not renew

>>32392852
this. with the crunchy collabs, once we hear her voice in one of numerous trash dubs they pump out we can expect a graduation day that year.

>>32392759
>wondering where it all went wrong
when she joined an idol company and complained about "idol culture" like a redditor

>>32393086
Where does it say "idol company"?

>>32392759
>wondering where it all went wrong
Pretty sure i can safely pinpoint where it all went wrong

>>32393086

>>32393169
>Hololive idol project
Right on their main page
https://en.hololive.tv/

whore

B-but Regis made her laugh!

>>32393240
>>32393336
HO NO NO NO NO NO

>>32393336
That means that there is something in Hololive called the "idol project", not that Hololive is an idol company.

>>32392852
She's not doing that. She's under the delusion that she can break it into the English VA scene on sheer effort alone. She already stated that she doesn't want to use the Hololive brand to boost her personal career. Really dumb since like every other entertainment industry it's all about who you know or if you have some sort of brand recognition.

Good riddance. The only good thing about her is her voice anyway

>>32392759
>>32392852
I legitimately don't even know what she's even VA'd for.

>>32393470
>public declarations of being too good for the employers who provide her with a paygrade way above her talents
>expects to advance her career without networking whatsoever
Is she retarded or something?

fine by me, if she can't handle "idol culture" then she should go somewhere else. she couldn't find happiness before hololive and didn't find it here. time to move on.

that's what sana did and it's worked out well for her RM.

>>32393465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5FMO3QkiSQ

>>32392759
Could you point a pistol to your head and pull the trigger after fucking off with the same old tired kronii thread?

>>32393465
Cope she is part of the project every member is

>>32392759

>>32393799
Seethe cluck

>>32393780
I agree, /infinity/ shouldve been sent to >>>/trash/ once they allowed namefagging, tripfagging, and an official discord to take seed

Aside from recent drama (pretty pointless outside how she addressed the nothing burger), she did mention she's not going to be around forever and was already trying to comfort anyone who could be upset about it without giving any kind of time frame.
Logically, it's better to stay in the company for longer but who knows with this one

>>32393944
And? Everyone knows that

>>32393944
Yeah, Ayame and Mel and the rest prove you should work enough for tenure and then show up every now and again for a concert.

>>32393933
Hello based departement

>>32393694
She's female, anon.

>>32393627
Some Yuri VN, I believe.

>>32392759
Keep crying, Nijifags.

>>32394061
Neither of them ever did much work. They were just lucky to join before 3rd gen.

>>32394029
Mayuzumi said the same thing early in his career too but at least he mentioned that it wouldn't happen for a long time

>>32393944
They need to recruit more people that are fucking HUNGRY for it.

>>32392800
The voices in OP's head are angy.

>>32394235
He basically got forced out by Anycolor though.

>>32392852
She’s like Mori in that they both want to achieve their dreams via their RMs and not as their Holo persona. They will never get what they want however because without that 2D avatar they are basically nothing. It’s more sad with Mori because she had “””something””” prior to Myth. Kronii had nothing and had continued to have nothing.

>>32394061
I do think it's scummy to come out of radio silence conveniently around your concert + new merch.
Doesn't take much for one short sentence once a week no matter how busy or uneventful that entire week was

>>32393944
English dubbing for anime is a small club and its almost impossible to break it unless you have cronyism in your favor or youre just some popular twitter guy with clout that that ugly fat asian guy who popular with his haha funny relatable maymay videos

>>32393933
Two discords, one which Kronii joined under a fake account live on stream

>>32392759
Good.

>>32394415
His peers seem to deal with whatever BS it is tho. But in the end if he thinks he can find success past this, good luck to him.
I would hate to see him start his own thing but whatever content it is ends up being worse

>>32392800
Of course she won't leave on her own, with 5k ccv she prints money, probably 20k per month

>>32394328
you think Kronii showed up to the interview saying "eh, I'm not that into Idol stuff or streaming..."? people lie during job interviews all the time. it's significantly harder getting hired otherwise. even someone who used to stream a lot as an indie can't be trusted to keep the same pace once they land the job

her fans are more retarded than I thought
they thought they were playing 4d chess by Shipping her with Regis so she would back off from male collabs
but now she's reconsidering where the fuck is she, and who her fans really are
you can tell she's conflicted towards her fans and this only made things worse

>>32395077
Her reaction to this issue is the biggest problem

>>32392759
Did something else happen?
>>32393086
Where did she complain about idol culture?

>>32395174
This type of post is why this situation is fucking retarded
>act like a dumb fucking sperg
>uhn asckusally its kroniis reaction to me being a manchild thats the issue

>>32392759
All they have to do is not respond
You’d think they’d have learned by now

>>32395077
>you can tell she's conflicted towards her fans and this only made things worse
This was all cleared up in her membership stream this week. The fuck are you talking about?

>>32394859
No, but they can try and filter for people that are desperate for a second chance like Watame rather than doing something like hiring a 20 year old mess.

>>32395361
It's one of the same people make these threads. They're Nijifags that would be happy to see Holos fail.

>>32395361
>cleared up
>has to feign understanding to a bunch of mentally ill 3rd worlders and cuckshed herself so they dont turn into antis

>>32393793
IRyS...

>>32395494
I watch both holo and niji and i dont want kronii to fail, i want her to stop being a spineless menhera and thinking her paypigs control her digital life and direction
Kind of funny how you had happy kronii, then she goes off has a good time with her coworkers and her own fans tore down her happiness arc in an instant just so they could be "mentally sound"

>>32395305
Telling people what you can or can't do is already going to cause bad vibes (in a normal case like the drama being referenced; not looking at exaggerated what if's).
I certainly think saying, "Do you guys not have female friends?" is a misspeak that didn't actually harbor any malicious intent. Addressing this whole thing was a bad idea in the first place tho

>>32395361
Members problems=no she left her position clear future tempus collabs,probably her manager is upset with her because she didnt listen her advice (say nothing)and she increased the drama

>>32395077
I mean your conclusion is correct but how you got there was wrong. “Fans” were mad that Altare made her laugh, hard, especially when earlier in the stream he somehow had the ultimate omniscient moment of asking everyone if they have a fake laugh voice and Kronii used the laugh she normally uses on stream. When Kronii cracked laughing at Altare being a psycho even Bae reacted with “that’s a real Kronii laugh”. Let’s not even forget the whole “I’m so close” orgasm moment that nobody notice except for Kronies on /inf/ and /hlgg/, saying shit line “NTR stream!” Or “so this is what it’s like to have your oshi cuck you”. They got collectively so angry they bitched at Kronii into the next streaming day. What did Kronii do? Make shit up about shipping instead of the real issue, something that backfired on her as she walked it back on Twitter. Then she tried compromising on her membership stream and then she ended up walking that shit back on a clipper’s comment section with her 3am damage control Schizo woman moment.

TL;DR Kronies got mad Kronii enjoyed herself with a male that wasn’t Kronies, bully her in her comments section forcing her to make a rash response that made things worse than they were by involving people that weren’t part of the problem instead of ignoring it not once, not twice, but three times.

>>32392759
should have applied to NijiEN if she wanted to regularly collab with men without upsetting anyone

>>32395661
How is she being spineless, you fuckwit? She literally said male collabs will still happen, she just won't stream them from her pov and she understands where the CGDCTfags are coming from.
Meanwhile dipshits like you want her to cleave her viewer base in half because "idols bad >:("
>her own fans tore down her happiness arc in an instant just so they could be "mentally sound"
Nobody tore her down. People voiced their side and she heard them out before making a decision.

Why do you keep talking about shit you know nothing about? God you nijiredditors are fucked in the head.

Why did the kronies make Kronii depressed? It's all their fault.

>>32395979
>Demoralized: The Post

>>32395979
I can literally open up her schedule post and see the 100s of passive aggressive retards having a melty because she joined a collab that was organized by Mori

>>32396089
inb4 Kronies damage control by calling them greys

>>32396089
There's no passive aggressive comment, it's very direct and even Kronii said it was admirable for them to express their feelings.

>>32395305
Just don't collab with males and you can literally side step the whole thing. Fuck omegatroon.

>>32395979
You forgot to mention she said she won't initiate any male collabs herself. That anon is wrong too since I think he's only referring to the comment-heavy portion of her fanbase. I would go as far and say most of the actual fans aren't even the ones live-commenting about everything (Average number comments per fan on a live-stream?)

>>32396060
>no argument
Concession accepted I guess.
>>32396089
And none of them were taken seriously by her unless they were reasonably worded. She even said she appreciates them voicing their concern. How is that "tearing down her happiness arc?"
>>32396143
>making your redditor dogpiling reply within a minute of the post
lol

>>32396305
They're just discordfags trying to stir up shit.

Imagine actually having to make ammends to not even tweet about a stream youre watching
She can never tweet about something that happens on Noirs channel ever again, whom she clearly enjoys the content of, on her own twitter.
What a fucking pathetic situation how are these people so lacking in self awareness they feel they won a victory by making a woman forced to ignore hef coworker because he has a cock
This is a HR disaster in an normal functioning workplace outside of digital adult babysitting

>>32396307
Meds

>>32395904
That's her own fault. This wasn't even a rushia tier yab lol it was a huge nothing burger but because she's a woman and she needed to have the last word even her if her actions were genuine she made the situation worse. Should've ignored it like the manager adviced her to instead.

>>32392759
that's the appeal, retard

>>32396456
Seethe. You want to take losers money but you don't wanna abide by the rules.
>This is a HR disaster in an normal functioning workplace outside of digital adult babysitting
Only for you twitterfag. And in typical normalfag fashion, you ruin everything you touch. This is the culture that built hololive and like the rot you are, you're mad you can't set in easily.

>>32396605
>chumbud image
Discarded, can’t wait for the eventual Altare collab

It's not even the idol culture thing
It's not understanding half or more of her male fanbase are lonely otaku.

>>32396456
>This is a HR disaster in an normal functioning workplace outside of digital adult babysitting
It would be if you were in a non public facing office job. If you are a celebrity, you better believe that your image is being carefully crafted and controlled.

>>32396652
2 more weeks

>>32396456
Aww, I'm sorry you can't push your ships, beggar.
>This is a HR disaster in an normal functioning workplace
It's not a normal workplace, it's an entertainment company that specializes in idol culture. She understands this and the guys understand this, so spare us your outrage.

>>32396456

>>32396456
It was her own lack of awareness that caused this to begin with.
Maybe learn who you're streaming to before you start streaming?

>>32396730
This image applies to the people responding to the post youre quoting bro not the one youre quoting

>>32396652
Why everyone keep trying to bait the chumkek with tempus? Is not going happen especially when gura can't afford to lose any type of revenue by pissing off insecure retards when she's trying to pay for that kanaria song.

>>32396456
This is the price of exploiting lonely men for money

>>32395904
>"Kronies" got mad
>/inf/ IP count was 4-5 times higher for days to the point of burning out 6-7 threads a day

Very cute revisionist history, touristchama.

>>32396530
Im not disagreeing, it’s definitely her own fault. And this chain of events makes it hard for me to believe that she was just ignorant of the situation when she didn’t post her schedule with the collab until the minute after it was over, and then especially when she tried pulling a fast one with Shien’s ending monologue for the Mafia cover and then blamed her manager in a half assed non-apology when Shien (professionally mind you) told her on Twitter that he wrote the lyrics.

>>32396714
Real idols collaborate with male idol groups all the time
You are not an idol fan, you are a manchild who thinks he knows what an actual culture is about and projects that to try and seem just and right
Akb48 have sung with men before, you know, le we're just like ak48 meme

>>32396822
Exactly.

>>32395258
>Where did she complain about idol culture?
Nerrev comments but he squashed it pic related

>>32396822
We have moved on to blaming the victim I see. Poor Kronii...

>>32396881
>dodges the /hlgg/ mention
Stay mad

>>32396089
This will get ignored and be turned into another moving goal post because unicuck love to spin reality to justify their retarded behavior.

>>32396950
I wouldn't say its her fault completely because Mori was too careless, invited her and didn't explain to her what could happen, how this is a permanent damage to the channel and you have to fight retards on both sides of this war now forever, Mori literaly put the pandora's box in her hands and told her to open it.

>>32397014
Poor Kronii who is not brave enough to refuse a collab

>>32397014
>>32397127
Poot Kronii who is not brave enough to tell her man children pay pigs “it’s just a collab”

>>32397014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnfiULnmMY&ab_channel=TheNewYorkTimes

Yeah anon. These women sure are victims.

>>32397014
>We have moved on to blaming the victim I see. Poor Kronii...

>>32397127
Sadly kronii doesnt know to say "no"

>>32396998
She was agreeing with Idol culture though, she just used it to explain to normalfags seething about her double standards.
>Dont ship me with males
>Ship me with females
>Yes it's a double standard, deal with it, it's idol culture.
She just didn't need to add the "unfortunately" there, her only mistake.

>>32392759
God I wish, the shitposting about council losing 2 fucking members before Myth....legendary.....

>>32396953
>m-muh real idols tho!
Hololive has intentionally minimized male collabs to strengthen the idol and CGDCT image, and even the talents themselves understand this. No amount of whataboutism can refute that.
>manchild
Says the manchild sperging out over a girl not collabing with males. It's funny too because a big reason why she didn't dunk on the CGDCTfags was because you collab beggars were utterly insufferable by trying to push her into a corner and convince her to forsake half her viewers.
>>32396998
That's not what she said.

>>32396953
AKB48 does not have males as co-workers. Also, Tempiss are unprofessional and are actively leeching and grooming the girls

>>32397355
>half her viewers
[Citation needed]

>>32396456
4chan is essentially an online mental ward you think these oldfags have any common sense or know how society outside their room function? They're too far gone. The truth is they're acting like women. Gossiping about males. Being jealous of the male coworker wishing it was him instead you know shit that goes inside of a woman's mind when there's a man she likes that's way out of her league. Shit too funny to me no woman wants to be with a man that's a bigger emotional bitch than she is.

>>32397121
I disagree because until the laughing moments were mentioned, members were pretty much united under the “Mori forced her to be here and she’s clearly not having fun” narrative. It would’ve blown over if not for the eventual insecurity trigger event happening. Only a small minority of people blame Mori for the collab, the rest of the hate is focused on Altare and he doesn’t even given them the time of day so they just are left (at least here) in this gosling picture spam cope loop which makes them look worse than teacucks.

>>32397417
You're a cuck. Opinion discarded.

>>32397416
She heard them out didn't she? So they're sizeable enough.
Feel free to prove me wrong though with a citation of your own.

>>32397466
this would happen even before the collab, Kronies were already ready to complain to her when Bae posted her schedule, we just didn't have a place to do it because she was in her break day and only posted her schedule after the collab.

>>32397417
That's what happens when you have little censorship and anonymity. But the non-censorship is what brings me here

>>32394420
Mori's RM does well though. And unlike Kronii she uses connections she makes and works harder than anyone in EN.

>>32392759
Are you the same anti that said Kronii would graduate first?

>>32397417
But this post makes you sound like more of an emotional bitch than anyone else. Why are you so upset that a streamer for a CGDCT company decided to preserve the CGDCT aspect of her stream?

>>32397417
Uh huh, as opposed to the sane twitterfags who need 5 trigger warnings, pronoun bios, or the perfectly mentally sound of discord who sit there jerking off to blacked porn all day, or the likes of reddit where I can get told detailed information like how to get into findom and share my cuckold stories?

>>32397417
I only disagree with one thing and it’s that real oldfags are the ones trolling all the insecure (kro)cucks on board. Everyone that made a nothing burger out of this are newfags who haven’t learned how to cope with not being able to succeed or at least maneuver around it. They can’t handle that even in their escapism they have to face the hard biological truth that they are undesirable men in everything but their money if they even give money. And that is the fault of the parasocial’d pozzed individual.

>>32397417
>immediately starts throwing out personal attacks because he and his fellow redditors didn't get their way
>thinks he has the right to call others overly emotional
The lack of self awareness here is hilarious.

>>32397014
Poor Kronii who can't even have the brains or filter to not openly disrespect the losers she has had no problem taking money from for a year.

>>32397712
True, but I’m sure Mori would rather want to have the Universal Music deal as her RM self more than as Hololive Myth talent. But that is the one up she has compared to Kronii who hasn’t done jackshit with her golden ticket other than look like a huge retard

>>32397712
It's ironic since I think Mori's earnings in Holo FAR exceed her RM but she likely uses these earnings to also help her RM's goals. But not sure how far that would go since she's admitted to having a gambling addiction (maybe it was in jest but I doubt it) and I've heard she's an alcoholic, too.
She works hard but I have the impression she's also holding herself back from greater success due to her own issues

>>32395904
Unicucks should get the rope

>>32398100
...How do we save Mori bros?

>>32398183
Homobeggars first

>>32398280

>>32398069
This. Kronii is just an ungrateful piece of shit.

>>32395258
>>32396998
This reddit image is a lie.
She was saying there is unfortunately a double standard on shipping due to idol culture.
Homobeggers like >>32396998 are twisting Kronii's words to make it sound like she was attacking idol culture

>>32398337
>he still clings to the homo beggar boogieman

>>32398543
Why would anyone say “unfortunately” if they don’t have a problem with it. Do you lack the ability to pick up on context clues?

>>32392759
You could have said that about Mori a year ago but here we are

>>32397839
Didn't this whole things start because Kronies didn't get their male collab trigger warning and cried about the missing schedule?
Maybe there's a connection

all she has to do is another GFE asmr and everyone comes back

>>32398683
She could have a problem with it, but she still choose to to agree with it as the best course of action.

>>32398841
It better be members only
greys have been proven disloyal

>>32398841
I never left, she was the most Based possible for her members, no chuuba would do this for their fans except JP or Gura.

>>32398741
This whole thing started because Kronii didn't foresee the consequences of her actions and then she tried to cover herself after the fact.
If you're going to do something as an entertainer that might upset your fans, either be unapologetic about it or ease them in beforehand. Her essentially going
>noooo don't leave me, it wasn't MY fault
is really dubious.

>>32398741
Yes, read >>32395904
they still refuse to admit they started this mess and want to desperately move on from this by saying shit like “why is catalog behind” or “they are greys they didn’t see the memberstream” despite the fact not only is the membership stream not required, it has already been uploaded and linked for anyone to watch and makes Kronies look deranged.

>>32398741
Maybe a very vocal portion of her fanbase. I doubt any rational person would have had issue with this. They were big enough to coax this kind of reaction though so I guess that automatically makes their opinion represent her entire fanbase (sarcasm)

>>32396605
Fuck you incel

>>32398916
>Day 1 Membership schizos caused the problem
>expect to be rewarded
lol
lmao

I hope she streams less than she already does
Also throw in a little seasoning and says shes just "not feeling well recently"

>>32398916
She already tried to laugh at random meme in the comments way harder than she did in DBD, proving to chat that they're suddenly funnier than ever.
And she also did Super Hot GFE edition.
Either they're back already or it didn't work.

>>32399050
*cums on you*

>>32393336
Really? Because on mine it just says virtual talent agency.

>>32399185
It obviously didn’t work

>>32394328
Fuck off 2view. If you had the talent to succeed you'd have done it by now.

Just like Nyanners and a few other female vtubers, Kronii is a failed VA that latched onto the vtuber boom because they could not get anywhere in the VA industry.

>>32399765
Seeing Kronii and Nyanners in the same sentence gives me a chuckle because they both are also alphabet soup retards

>>32397517
>Makes percentage claim
>No actual proof, we only have donations of a few people complaining to go on
>Somehow the burden of proof falls back to the person asking for proof in the first place
I think you overestimate the number of people who care about that.

>>32394390
I miss him

>>32399050
Destroying idol culture wont make your eggs any less rotten.

>>32392759
>Not a chance she renews her contract next year

Are you retarded, she's not going to say no to the money and she just has to ignore or block the few retards that are crying.

>>32402926
>ignore or block the few retards that are crying
you mean what her manager advised her to do from the start but she failed to do even that? lol

>>32396456
Kill yourself holobeggar

>>32397304
So she really is a slut lol

>>32402926
This wouldn’t be a problem if she did just block ban and blacklist the problem people

>>32393465
Retardchama...

>>32409206
>problem people
you mean people that politely commented on why they dont like male collabs?
Just go back to your virtue signaling box you retarded nigger. What the fuck are you even doing on 4chan you subhuman shitter?

>>32398100
Who knows, but she is thinking of doing more hard rock which suits her.

This isn't just me wanting KISS or Bon Jovi covers

>>32409571
Hes right
Hololive Idol Project is exactly that, the portion of the branch that does the concerts in costume
They arent "hololive idol project" making dick jokes
The entirety of it is Hololive Production
Hololive is the girls branch
People here literally dont know the fucking differences jesus christ

>>32410115
BrainDamageChama...

Yall are schizos who need to touch grass.

>>32392800
In a superchat reading stream someone sent her a super chat said something like let's "good job, let's keep gping in a hundred years" she said "oh no, no no" she didn't elaborate what she means so this might have been the catalyst for what OP is talking about, give me a ylu if you care about timestamps

>>32392759
>depresseroni part 2
She should join the 41% this time

>>32410544
>Yall
Tranny from twitter showing his true colors. Off yourself and join the 41%

>>32410539
Post otherwise or youre the retard

>>32410772
it's over

>>32417751
https://youtu.be/wk-eRBK1dkk

Timestamp is 1:16:08
1:16:00 for the full superchat.

>>32393336
The EN branch has never been under any obligation to participate in idol activities, as stated by the girls many times in the past. Management would always tell them, "You're fine to just be a content creator." People like Kiara do it because that's what they're into. The others would do songs and dances because "well, fans want to see this because it's what JP does."

>>32417903
it really is over.... i hope she will continue as an indie at least

honestly there needs to be way more graduations in hololive so we can have more debuts without getting overcrowded, there should be at least 15 by this point

>>32417903
>One of the newest generations and the one with most graduation
Yeah, Council didn't do as good as they expected

>>32392800
Even long before this it’s been perceivable that whatever ambitions she had for herself pre-Hololive, this is something she deems as evidence of failing that dream. Where did she go wrong and have to be become an incel babysitter cum muppet? Who knows? Some women can’t shake the same of being a prostitute no matter how much cash it traps them with. Like if you actually want to be stimulated by your work, but then get a burger flipping gig for 7 figures. Profoundly, the high pay can create higher resentment due to negating any and all excuse not to be an unironic burger flipper as your role. Some like this are delusional about the “what if” potential but the feeling is real enough

>>32392759
How many threads are you going to make anon?

>>32419206
>Some women can’t shake the same of being a prostitute
But she is not a woman anon

>>32392759
> wondering where it all went wrong
Being a backstabbing whore and collabing with males

>>32392759
This is the easiest source of drug money possible.

>>32398683
Because the double standard is what is unfortunate ESL

>>32426775
Then she would have said "for those who say there is a double standard, unfortunately there is because I am an Idol". That's how grammar works you fucking drop-out

>>32392800
Not only what the other posters said, on her anniversary stream when she was reading all the letters from fans she started acting really weird. The whole thing felt like she wanted to say that she wasn't going to be doing this much longer but just couldn't bring herself to do it.

>>32430722
>she started acting really weird
what you mean? isn't it just because of the drama?

>>32429907
Why should she word it differently when how she said it made the point and only ESL retards like you get it wrong?

>>32393383
That actually may be part of it. Think about it. She can't have a normal relationship while she's doing this gig. Womens emotions make them suddenly want to stop whatever their doing at the drop of a dime and try something else. Happens all the time in long term relationships for them. It's kind of annoying since they don't really take much time to consider. It's purely emotionally driven behavior. They'll end 17 year marriages on a whim.

>>32430793
She was making retarded noises and talking strangely. She was hung up on what someone posted about when it's all over laying on the couch and staring up at the ceiling fan thinking about everything. Just check out the stream. It's at the end.

>>32394420
Mori bit the bullet and pumped out content under her Holo persona, and her RM got bigger along with Mori. Kronii will go nowhere unless she does the same.

>>32430859
I'm always happy to help people who couldn't quite make it in school. Let's say your dad is telling stories at the grill this Labor Day, he says something like "I had been putting in a lot of hours at work and my boss told me I was up for a management position, unfortunately two weeks later this idiot was born, I had to cut back my hours, and the promotion went to that asshole Andy instead."
In this sentence, the unfortunate thing isn't the passage of time or his boss telling him something, it was your birth.

>>32397014
i hope she will going well especialy cyber bully is very bad culture in medis social artist like in case jennie and lisa blackpink where they never smile like before again

>>32410544
lol
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1566331284850298880

>>32392759
It’s over…