/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Ennakeks coping right now, being delusional that they can beat Gura lol

>>32371464
>implying enna will not beat gura's clearly scuffed stream

>>32371464
WHO THE FUCK IS ENNA?

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>47,845: Ayame (Hololive)
>31,563: Marine (Hololive)
>31,244: Kobo (Hololive)
>23,232: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,345: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>20,774: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,146: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,398: Towa (Hololive)
>15,870: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,502: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,117: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,110: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,387: Met (774 Inc.)
>10,350: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,196: Watame (Hololive)

>>32371310
what about vta?
any good member there waiting for debut?

chumbud status?

>>32371464
Is she really as good as singer as nijinigger claimed her to be? Gimme her best performance clip or anything, no recorded stuff

>>32371503
a town in sicilly

>>32371585
why do you believe nijinigger lies?

>>32371571
Gooba tonight!

>>32371414
Hololive
>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)
>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit
>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)
>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)
>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update
>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)

Nijisanji
>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)
>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release
>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)
>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)
>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)

Something to look forward tomorrow

Kobo is NijiEN'ing, recruiting more StarsJP impromptu kek.
But unlike before, did they tweet it?
But since she is a "kid", some old viewers (if she has some) won't mind to spoil her, probably.

>>32371315
yes, Kuzuha, Kenmochi and his ROF-MAO group are much more entertaining than stars guy and I'm saying this as someone watching both Holo/Niji JP

>>32371630
she'll lose to enna

>>32371555
Probably would be another flop as proven by the previous 2 waves. Unless niji also has 3rd times the charm like holo ofc

Why do nijifemcels love Enna so much?
She doesn't even have a penis

>>32371555
Even if there were, VTA itself would kill the hype before they started
I have no idea what they were thinking having them do PNGtuber streams on a shared channel, it essentially means they debut with a bunch of absolute shit and then re-debut with a proper model months later

>>32371585
She's a scuffed IRyS.

>>32371682
ever since she pandered to b2 she suddenly grew one

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>32371647
I mean, they are entertaining, no doubt about that. They're prime brotubers.

>>32371179
should be in 2 hours if I'm not wrong

>>32371647
I can agree with this. King is really witty and chinman is just good at coming up with interesting topics

>>32371647
Yeah starsjp aint got nothing on King and Loliman when it comes to entertainment

>>32371642
She's sucking every male's cock now
And seems like she won't stop anytime soon
Wait for her huge declining nijichads!
She's already a sub 5k shitter now

>>32371639
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>32371693
VTA is killing the surprise factor which makes debuts a spectacle to watch. it's not really the same when you know already who's the one debuting. don't confuse it with reincarnated former chuubas who still gets hyped because people wanna confirm if she really is the PL.

>>32371495
>>32371464
Shitposting aside, predictions on scuff? I'm betting the stream will not start on time. The EN special. By about 20minutes
seriously why the fuck does it happen so often

>>32371682
They probably think she's the only one that can strike at Holo in their own territory.

How do we save HoloEN?

>>32371682
>pander to chink the hardest trough b2 content
I don't know you tell me, it makes me wonder though why she's EN again ?

>>32371834
30 minutes

Tale as repeated since the beginning of time, some low IQ Niji due to declining relevancy picks a semi-hype stream ( this time Enna ) to create a narrative that it is genuine contender.
Since no one watches NijiEN, Holofans take the bait and engage.
Leave these handful of Niji fans alone, let them cry and beg for some relevance.
IGNORE and LAUGH at their MYSERY!!!!

>>32371532
>Ayame and Marine on podium 2 days in a row

>>32371647
Shame this is what they get on EN side. Maybe Gamer would do better.

>>32371834
burger internet

look who i found
https://twitter.com/NamelessThree

Seems like reddit is raiding vt catalog with all the anti-ayame baits out there

>>32371863
Behave like a sidebranch stay as a sidebranch. Dont save them. This is what they want.

Oh the reason why nijikeks are shitty today is vesper winning against alban lol

and only 4 nijis got into the tally today. Shill stream, Powerpros, first time cooking and kanae MH collab

>>32371918
Retard

>>32371915
holy fuck they are back ? thanks anon

>>32371918
r/okbh and its consequences has been a disaster for /vt/

>>32371886
Just as a reminder, NijiEN had 12 streams today that failed to break 2k

>>32371886
I agree because I don't watch niji, but please improve on your English. If you don't want to do JP reps at least do some EN reps, it will help you in life.

>>32371958
go back

>>32371934
>Even handcam can't save nijien
LMAO

>Also mogged by HomoEN
LMAO

>>32371666
Satanchama...your numberrrots...

>>32371918
People here are also there. It's little surprise. Containment doesn't exist.

>>32371915
good find there anon

>>32372005
>NijiEN had 12 streams today that failed to break 2k
wait really?

>>32371934
First time a Holostar win cripple gold? (Not counting debut of course)

So easy gold tomorrow because of gura?

>>32371918
are you retarded or do you somehow forget how cause an effect works?

>>32372012
>The one who literally posted a screenshot of reddit thread tells the anon that criticizes him to go back
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP LOL

HoloID has to contain Kobo. She is impromptu recruiting StarsJP and EN? for a game.
But her stream sounds like she is a younger sister being protected by Stars brothers.
Nijifags will use this to shitpost.

>>32372081
fuwa will get global gold and enna will get cripple gold.

>>32372081
Enna 100k tomorrow

>>32372081
enna might pull a miracle and be competitive if she actually is streaming karaoke

>>32371639
kakkoii

>>32372108
nobody gives a shit about nijinigger shitposts anon, if we don't do things because "nijfags will shitpost" nobody will do anything

>>32372135
unarchived english karaoke. she might get 50k

StarEN + The runt of Council (According to people /here/) are enough huh?

>>32371647
so the most successful jp males are mostly brotubers, huh? why didn't they did the opposite like stars en did with nijien then and go the bfe route

>>32372108
You cant contain her when she's addicted to a new game
Like how she got addicted to minecraft for a while and streamed off hours

>>32371871
>>32371914
Stream canceled. I'm betting big

Looks like euro hours started early today.

I haven't seen salome in a while where is she?

>>32372203
weekend, please understand

>>32372191
i thought fauna was the runt.

>>32372193
>why didn't they did the opposite like stars en did with nijien then and go the bfe route
because brotuber vtubers dont sell as well as bfe vtubers in the west

>>32372262
>CN is west

>>32372108
well yeah that's Kobo main charm anon the bratty little sister type, one of the reasons why she isn't affected by unicorns fans and people will laugh if it exists

What went wrong? This is insanely poor growth even for irys. She got btfo by Mumei in 6 hours.

>>32371863
I am unironically bailing on them. The only ones that worth watching are probably only Gura and IRyS at this point. I am also started to look outside for EN vtubers and found a refuge somewhere else.

>>32371642
she's a numberfag, if she think rationally and not by her ego she will improve next week

NOT SO FAST HOLOKEKS. fulgur can still win EN gold

>>32371642
She put it on her weekly schedule

>>32372284
TW and Canada is west anon or have you forgotten that luxiem also has a lot of fujos there

>>32372262
>in the west

>>32372262
>west
EN (North America (China))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjx1JYasT8k

master race chads get in here

>>32371915

Molya, stop it.

>>32372323
Seriously?

>ask for numbers prediction
>get a bunch of retards spaming Enna instead
Again, what do you think will be the number for this stream? Note, I am not asking whether Enna beats it, shove that bullshit up your ass.

>>32372262
uh...anon you're reading reps? i'm talking about stars jp going bfe route

>do archive reps
>see vox tweet
>thought it was another one of his dick cum balls joke
>2 traps fucking each other
yep, im done clicking and opening twitter links. if it ain't got an image, it ain't real.

>>32372108
>>32372297
My theory is that mixed gender collab has more problem than unicorns, and I need Kobo to collab with Regis more over at least 3 months to prove that the theory is applied to not only JP, but also ID and EN markets.

>>32372032
Huh? Did they finally break the 1k barrier?

>>32372386
Enna will get 35k

>>32372284
>>32372333
>>32372336
>did the brotuber route
>get shit numbers
>did the gaybait route
>get better numbers
brotubing as a vtuber in the west dont bring in the same number as being a bfe
thats why the most successful brotubers are not vtubers but fleshstreamers

>>32372386
35k

>>32372386
50k-60k

>>32372386
>Enna poster samefagging
This is nothing new

>>32372428
Retard.

>>32371461

>>32372386
27k

>>32372450
tempus proved otherwise

>>32372305
Boring MV and it wasn't even within the first 10 results when I searched "IRyS" and "IRyS ch".

>>32372386
35-40k

>>32372386
sub 30k due to scuff
non scuff might break 40k

>>32372386
Who are the guests? What the fuck is big brain games? Is it a variety stream? I need to know whether the content is debuff or not.

>>32372305
Her previous MV did well for her standards even if the song had already been out for a month so I don't know why the views are so low on this

>>32372030
>>32372005
Once again this thread does not get nijisanji en strengths and weakness. Niji en strength is the fact they all have their own fanbase that don't overlap like hololive fans. Elira fans don't watch vox content or vice versa. This thread says it itself all en numbers flow from gura so if you don't collab with gura your numbers fall down this is not an problem for niji en. Nijisanji en can afford to pump out vtubers until they pull an ssr like luxiem cause if it happened once it will happened again it is the rules of logic. Even if they get an couple of flops they don't drag the entire branch down cause each one has their own fanbase and give livers more people to interact with. Plus depending on the time of day more people are watching niji en over holo en if we add up ccv. Hololive en is top heavy if gura falls that branch is down for while nijisanji en is like jelly top members can take breaks and the rest of the branch is not affected.

>>32372193
not really, Kuzuha did many "fanservice" things with Kanae and Chronoir became famous. They did pander to fujos back in the day.

>Vox breaksdown about numbers on stream
>Aster whines about low numbers on stream
What is going on with nijiEN? Are they getting pressured by management or something?

>>32372386
Enna will get 500k ccv in a minute. Gura will get 500 max ccv if a fellow zaku like Pekora raids her.

>>32371682
She's chinese

>>32372305
better than Sora

>>32372297
>the bratty little sister type

>>32372262
> in the west

>>32371863
They lack the weekly off collabs, concert practices and actual proper 3D concerts.
All those things build comradery and give them stuff to talk about during streams. I don't expect things to improve unless Japan opens up for real, or we get more ENs based in Japan or all the NA ones move to gaming house (this one is the least likely to ever happen since most of them treat Hololive as a side gig and over half have boyfriends)

>>32372500
That reminds me, did she redirect to her MV after her post-release karaoke?

>>32372297
>implying incest and lolicon arent two of the most popular fetishes on /a/

>>32372450
It also applies to girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULAImu93Hw

>>32372487
thats hololive branding anon, same reason why starsjp gets 3views instead of being 2views or why axel is now a 4view despite behaving the same way he was as a 1view
the most successful indie male vtuber is a bfe

>>32372416
Kek. But the last thread is real.

>>32371915
oh wait what happened to her old account?

>>32372540
Nice headcanon, retard.

>>32371915
did he delete his old account or purged by twitter?

>>32372540

>>32371918
> 2 days ago
can you fuck off

>>32372591
Can't say, I wasn't there for the unveiling.

>>32372386
Sub 30k stream.

>>32372516
4 ENs vs 4IDs compete for the title if the smartest, it's a game show with Gura as the host.

>>32372421
I really doubt you can't get solid data proof that you need. the problem with kobo and also her strength is she's pander to indo audience really hard to the point if her stream not in indo her viewers dropped down

>Nijinigger discord raid
It's all so tiresome

>>32372547
How new? People don't call it a black company, entertainment factory, etc for no reason.

>>32372540
Hahahahaha

bros... how do we save Noel?

>>32372305
Doesnt matter how good of a singer she is if the songs are shit. It was never about being good at singing for musican/singer, it's about how good the songs are. Same reason why Suisei and the Kamitsubaki witches dominated the vsinger scene. Their songs are just good. Simple as.

>>32372540
>cause if it happened once it will happened again it is the rules of logic
RULES OF GACHA

>>32372487
Haven't you realized that the green guy is Uncle Nowa's PL?

>>32372597
sex has nothing to do with going gosling on someone
I want to mating press the rat because her design is cute, but I fucking hate her personality and don't watch her streams.
And Mori lewds have been permanently ruined for me thanks to watching her early on and having to witness her descent into retardation.

>>32372386
Depends on the guests, probably 25k.

>>32372547
There is one thing that I notice between HoloEN and NijiEN management:
From HoloEN members themselves, they have never talked about management forcing them to increase numbers. Heck, even during member streams, they complained about some management stuff but never about numbers.
On the other hand, we have seen multiple instances where NijiEN members said something about feeling pressured from management about increasing numbers, from Vpx to Yugo. Man, even I feel bad about NijiEN.

>>32371886
This but for the entirety of the ENfags.

>>32372386
Minimum : 20k
Expectation : 30k
Kneel territory : 50k+

>>32372053
yes, the monetization ralie streams would have been an easy gold but luxiem pulled out a karaoke from nowhere ,this time vox delayed his cumbait ASMR in fear to get Magged how things have changed

>>32372731
ergo Tempus proved otherwise

>>32372450
>did the sistuber route
>get shit numbers
>did the gaybait route
>get better numbers
sistubing as a vtuber in japan dont bring in the same number as being a gfe
thats why the most successful sistubers are not vtubers but fleshstreamers

>>32372731
>gaybaiting
>did a rrat collab
>isn't magni
Are you okay?

>>32372540
Please do not bring up Hololive to shit on them if you want to brag about Nijisanji English.
It makes your fanbase toxic.

>>32372421
> I need Kobo to collab with Regis more over at least 3 months to prove that the theory is applied to not only JP
IOPs will be filtered by English

>>32372540
>Even if they get an couple of flops they don't drag the entire branch down
Tell that to Nijijp

>>32371642
She's so dumb. She must realize that her viewers are normies and Indonesian who can't speak or understand English and collab with male Vtubers (especially StarsJP) will ruin her momentum. Well, look at her ccv on today stream. If she continue doing this, we will see Kobo become Ollie v2 in terms of ccv.

>>32372795
Why do you insist on copypasting the same response over multiple threads? Yes we've heard about this like the 1000th time.

>>32372516
Moona
Irys
Ina
Kronii
+4 more I don't know

>>32372540
> an
> an
> an
Stirb, deutscher Abschaum

>>32372540
Is this also why voxx on suicide watch ?

>>32372689
Easy 50k-60k

>>32372883
because it's relevant

>>32372547
>Aster whines about low numbers on stream
ugh again i've seen this in the catalog, but literally nobody posted any timestamp, c'mon

>>32372795
Maybe holo management forbid them from talking about it on stream. Wouldnt be the first time.

>>32372821
>>32372607

>vesper first mc solo
Predictions? Will he reach 7k again like he used to at the beginning?

>>32372597
>Implying /a/ gives a fuck about VTuber, much less a fucking non-Japanese Vtuber

>>32372305
The song was already released so people already listened to it and knew what it sounded like. The MV was basically a moving slideshow and didn't add anything new.

>>32372689
>>32372882
No Kiara and Mori. No Bae, hopefully no Ollie. I predict 30k peak, probably can hold around at least 25k people. 38k kneel territory.

>>32372717
Noel...

>>32372725
IRyS' most recent EP and singles are better than her oldest stuff.

>>32372920
I wish holo management were numberfags then they would force the talents to stream more

>>32372821
5k is shit numbers. If he goes full gay with Magni, he will mag Vox easily.

>>32372914
Can't you at least word it differently at the very least? Those timeloop faggots are more creative than you.

>>32372540
Writing general is the other thread anon

>>32372081
Enna will get 80k

>>32373016
no

https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1566003076464402434
Stars attending some sort of improv program?

>>32372889
Ofc it's a fucking KFP

>>32372863
Damn. How many times I have to repeat myself. What I mean is the general incline/decline over the time not just the collab streams.

>>32372918
I guess he said it in a Rosemi member stream

>>32371642
it's_afraid.jpeg

>>32373040
Nobody care about ProjectV to be honest.

>>32372838
>green guy is magni
Why are you so retarded?

>>32373047
Souns more like an egg.

>>32373039
imbecile

>>32372975
Going from shit to mid is nothing to brag about anon... i still dont understand why they wouldnt just auditioned some vocaloP who could make songs that fits her voice.

>>32373099
Magni is the one who gaybaits, underagechama.

>>32373127
nou

>>32372540
You are retarded. Nijisanjis strength is the fact that they focus on the company rather than the liver thats why they will survive and grow bigger in the long run no matter how many livers graduate whereas Cover will be in big trouble if say Pekora, Miko or Suisei will graduate

What SHOULD IRyS (and her management) do to improve her music numbers?

>>32372975
Yes, bad is better than worse, doesnt change that the songs are bad

>>32373070
And how the fuck are you going to attribute their eventual incline/recline to the mixed collabs, and not any of the countless factors that make someone incline/recline? This isn't an exact science.

>>32373070
She will clearly recline because she will keep filtering IOP idiot.
You cannot use Kobo. Use Gura or Mumei instead for your stupid experiment.

>>32372870
I'll be sad if Kobo is actually pushed for StarsJP and StarsEN collabs by the management. She got better views when collabing with Manca. IOPs ain't gonna watch StarsJP and StarsEN

>>32372889
Is there a reason why Germans can't distinguish "a" and "an"?

>>32373040
a bunch of holos have been on that program before, as well as a bunch of other vtubers.
The issue is that it's a paywalled talkshow so nobody really cares that much about it

>>32373095
dammit i wanna see the rant

>>32373111
Same shit. Trannies ofthen have extream mood swing

>>32373166
Cover literally fired Rushia and nothing happened to them.

>>32373177
Doesn't matter if it's in JP stages, get her a 3D and a concert.
Also fire Omega.

>>32373166
And this is why nijiniggers disgust me. They support a company that sees their talents as expendable and only cares about growing the company itself.

>>32373254
anon rushia and coco were mid streamers at best but they did take a hit sc wise

>>32373183
>>32373186
Why are you guys preemptively coping? She could've incline because of the association with starsEN for all we know. I don't fucking know the future which is why I said "I am testing my theory".

/news/ roundup for 03-09-2022 (all times are in JST)
> Botan revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/VmIvrUbMcQI).).
> Shinomiya Runa(VSPO) revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/tS1waI_Oxyk).).
> Ayame held her 4th Anniversary 3D Live "Happiness to You" (https://youtu.be/mwJGZ8YU7o4).). Also announced Anniversary merch.
> Choronoir sponsored stream for "G-Shock" watches (https://youtu.be/MD5kqsaeCts).).
> Holostars JP will be attending a cross-collab program from Project V and Oshisugite V on 7th at 12am (https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1566003076464402434).). It will be a test of improv skills.

Previous : >>32298191
August roundup : >>32140520

hime is inclining!

>>32373081
I am afraid Kobo may recline because she will filter IOPs.

>>32373166
>Nijifags think this is a good thing.

What is enna last karaoke number for the nijinig to shill her so bad

>>32373294
>rushia and coco
Really anon? They were the top 2 SC of the entire Youtube. You seems to forget how important SCs was back in the days.

>>32373254
Even your average retard knows about how serious NDAs are. Even if you believe that's not the reason, it's the official explanation.

>>32373345
her last karaoke streams were before her incline.

>>32373301
How am I coping? Saying either of them is going to eventually incline/recline is just a reasonable assumption because that's how things work over a long time. You're the one inserting your bias and assuming I meant Kobo reclining.

>>32373254
Cover prepares for losses by steadily debuting new talents. Half of gen 2 doesn't stream, Marine was on a break for pretty much an entire year, Coco left, Rushia got terminated, but as long as each new gen produces 1-3 talents who can pull similiar numbers it's all good.

>>32373301
I said it before and I'll said it again >>32372694
and just like some anon above it isn't exact science. unless you just a nijifags that want to see kobo recline to justify your shitpost

>>32373294
>>32373334
How is it a bad thing though? Your company being dependent on 2 or 3 livers means that its unstable and is prone to implode at any given moment like upd8. On the other hand if your company that invests on itself rather than the livers is bound to survive no matter who or how many graduate

damn there's a lot of holos doing singing streams, any guesses as to why?

>>32373372
but they werent impressive ccv wise and i did say cover took a hit in the sc department

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1566043054670090240
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1566043054670090240
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1566043054670090240

>>32373330
See. This is what I am talking about. Homobeggars just wanted to destory hololive as a whole. They won't want to admit that male collabs are going to kill hololive and will attribute the declines of the girls who collabed with males to anything but that. This is because they want the girls who never collab with males to get into the trap too. Fucking vultures. You guys are worse than nijibeggars.

>>32373455
Anon, stop shitposting. Niji average doesn't even come close to Holos.

>>32373162
>Magni is the one who gaybaits, underagechama.
You really are retarded.
Check this again, you idiot. >>32372450
I have to explain this to you, idiot.
The green guy did the brotuber thing but it did not work out so he went gaybaiting, and it worked.
The said green guy is Uncle Nowa's PL.
Do you finally get it?

>>32373509
Wasnt rushia like upper mid. Granted she also did the EN greenwhore strat of occupying a dead slot regularly

>>32373455
Graduate kuzuha and there's nothing left for niji. Their whole relevance literally hanging on his back

>>32373566
I see people say Randon went gaybait but never see it posted.

>>32373603
vox is the top dog.

>>32373536
And holo events dont even come close to company wide events like koshien

>>32373570
Does this look like upper mid?
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/rushia

>>32373566
Oh, it's an underage doxxfag.

Tallyanon wait for watame and luna to get 10k. Thank you.

Anycolor current market capitalization is 199B Yen = 1.5B USD. Riku owns 46% of Anycolor stock so he's worth at least 690M USD.

they're going to chimp out when the tally is posted, aren't they?

>>32373626
He sure don't think so judging from his latest outburst.

>>32373451
I don't want to see Kobo decline unlike you.

>>32373412
Kobo is the only data point we have right now that is ongoing so it might not speak much, but it will be data point nontheless. Kronii might be a data point later on if she do it frequently enough. Others girls like Ollie, Bae and Mori might not be a good data point because Ollie and Bae are sucking cocks very early on in their careers. Mori is a good example for decline too but people will just attribute it to her haters instead of facing the truth.

>>32373524
>male collabs are going to kill hololive
Using fucking Kobo is not a good measure if it will kill Hololive. Her fans are not unicorns/CGDCT fags. Her fans are IOP normies who tend to not care about male-female interactions because they are not fragile like you.
Use Gura and Mumei for your experiment instead.
Why are you so dumb to get this distinction?

How long till Don Don hit 1M?

>>32373570
I recall someone posting the mid-2021 to mid-2022 CCV average or median table a month back, and Rushia was in like, the top 10 between every vtuber from every company. It was so insane that I had to point it out in the thread.

>>32373626
you wish sis, you fucking wish. but maybe if you continue to bot your lord it can be happen, didn't you know he's crying because he's start to lose numbers

>>32371855
She can, sadly she went the zombie route

>>32373631
>Doesn't understand why average is important for vtubers
>Tries to attack large events despite niche, summer themed idol concert with the JP branch that pulls 200k ccv
Okay, retard.

>>32373739

>tempus is getting schizos digging through all their PL stuff to find some kind of pseudo yab
They really made it huh. Good for them.

No one noticed but luna 10K get.

>>32373524
Pteranodons
I warned you guys, but nobody listened. Time to find a new hobby

>>32372918
We heard two interesting number related things from Tempus management. The first was "try not to bait SC too much + here's how to avoid that" and the second was Magni's Subnautica stream where management told him "if you do hardcore your viewers might not enjoy it" (and he ignored them).

>>32373697
How can a niche vtubing companybe worth that much? Whereas junkook who''s 100x more popular than hololive and Nijisanji combined is only worth 20 million

https://youtu.be/IKbv3vHbQuk
Jesas...
JP clippers are on another level when it comes to editing.

>>32373684
Watame would need Pekora to end since she's doing old content nobody wants to watch at this point.

>>32373833
Luna is a 10k chuuba.

>>32373831
This was known before they even debuted and people figured out who Nowa was.

>>32373739
Let's see on tomorrow stream. If she can reach AT LEAST 8k (her floor), then using Kobo for measuring that is invalid. If her ccv lower than 8k, then it's valid.

>>32373736
at this point I honestly think you just baiting. let me be clear and spell it to you Kobo main audience and market is ID, anything in her channel that doesn't speak in ID is a debuff

>>32373330
For Kobo, collab with any non-ID is a fucking debuff. Nobody understand what she is saying in English/Japanese, and even if they do, it sounds really cringe

>>32373635
Besides the ccvid part she seemed to be flying between 12-20k is that not good? Like its not 1st army tier but i feel like that puts her above most the company at the time

>>32373821
I was in the thread this was posted where everyone promptly shat on it for being not only badly made but flat out false. Matsuri has literally been inclining since Rust. Stop posting it.

>>32373739
>unicorns
retard
>>32373330
anon was afraid that she might filter iops with her constant english the same way it it filtered audiences in id2

>>32373166
You don't watch NijisanjiJP. Things gonna pretty bad if someone like Kenmochi graduates since the guy handles a lot of things behind the scene.

>>32373739
>Her fans are IOP normies who tend to not care about male-female interactions because they are not fragile like you
I was the original one who put out the theory. It was tested and proven true in the JP market. Now we just need to see whether we can replicate the same result in EN and ID. I really don't care what causes it at this point of the data collection. If it is true that kobo has no unicorns, it is even better because it just prove that any changes in number is not because "unicorns ran away" but there are other more complicated factors.

>>32373785
She's a weaker version of IRyS in talent and personality. Good luck with that.

>>32373831
what could they even find? magni and nowa PL wasn't controversial and axel was a literal /who/

>>32373821
Have you tracked Kobo's donation reading ccv? It kept reclining and then after collab with StarsEN, it inclined a bit.
Therefore, it does not apply to Kobo.

>>32373631
See you next koshien then.

>>32373945
didn't people say that about mayuzumi too? nothing changed after mayuzumi graduated. nijisanji is stronger than ever.

>>32373865
It's the Tesla effect, the market is retarded and bought their pitch that they're a unique special business and not just another competitor in a very crowded and competitive field whose "unique" technology can be easily replicated by anyone else with a budget

>>32373831
But everyone already knows Magni is a trainwreck who's friends with a lot of dumb people. Are sisters just late to the party?

>>32373815
Large sponsored events>Averages when it comes to focusing on the company since averages rely on livers more while people who got to events dont care about the livers but instead the event itself.

>>32373928
>Matsuri is inclining because she stopped collabing with males and trying to get back to holobox
Need I say more?

>>32373635
>>32373935
I reiterate:
>>32373743

>>32372386
15k-25k?

>>32373617
I'm fairly sure it's just a rrat at this point. I've looked at some of Randon's later content and none of it seems too bad though that's just youtube vods. At most he might pander to it a bit but he's nowhere near Vox ASMR levels of content.

>>32373982
The only controversial thing I could think of about magni is that Sonic vs The Flash video.

>>32373945
People were saying the same shit when mayuzumi graduated and yet koshien was bigger than last year

>>32373928
Do you fucking understand what I am trying to get here? I am not talking about the numbers she got when collabing with Regis. I am talking about the average ccv down the lines including her regular streams. Fucking retards how many times do I need to repeat it?

>>32373716
this is the next year of /#/ and /vt/ anon, get used to it

>>32373922
Nope it is already invalid regardless of results.
Why attribute it with male collabs when you can attribute it to IOP filter and shiny new thing getting old?

>>32373821
>>32373940
and that retard still hasn't fixed the Bae stream that was aborted early because of internet issues

>>32372717
>Noel MV
Hope it was composed by the same guy from that other time

>>32374044
for >>32373940

>>32373935
More often between 16-20k unless debuffed. Her numbers were upper end. Not Pekora level, I wouldn't put her elsewhere.

>>32374113
>>32374044
wow this anon really correct about you both
>>32373524

>>32374110
Nijisanji event numbers are just kinda whatever, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from them.

>>32374125
Haha, just see tomorrow

How do we save Vox bros?
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1565912941836247040

>>32374162
you see there's the problem with the theory, it's completely vacuous and malleable. Something doesn't fit the pattern? Oh here's x explanation that has no real hard rules to test it by. She literally had an apex male collab in the middle of the Rust stuff

>>32374224

>>32374219
You dont want to draw conclusions because you dont like the truth that focusing on the company is much better than focusing on all your employees.

>>32374044
NTA.
You are fucking dumb or you are baiting. Is Maturi Indonesian? If no, then fuck off. Stop pretending to be a scientist/statistician you hack.
In order to test something, all other variables must remain constant. Here, we have the Indo variable.

>>32374005
>Kobo was already declining prior to homo collab
>Kronii was already declining prior to homo collab
>xxxxx was already declining prior to homo collab
I fucking predicted this cope, and funnily enough this is a preemptive cope at this point because Kobo's average is at its all time high. Don't let me see you guys in 3 months using the same cope. You don't want to watch the homos, you just want to destroy hololive.

>>32374068
So, is it like the retards that like to say HoloJP is the same as VShojo because the holos also do sex jokes sometimes?

>>32374224
follow the ame regimen and improve himself.

>>32374224
In a different timeline, Vox could've been famous in starsEN as a OSRS streaming brotuber

Solid guy what happened to your solid cock...

>>32374224
Why is he talking like a faggot?

>>32373742
Who knows. Getting reuploaded like that probably hurt it a lot. It looks much slower this time around at least.

>>32374036
Yikes. Imagine valuing the second rate vtubing company for $1.5billion. I would not even put cover at 1/4 of that. Well I guess as long as the big guys will win and the public lose lmao.

>>32374281
I was not replying to you about the Matsuri stuff, sorry.

>>32374293
I think the intention is different. The original posters and propogators were using it to say how happy they were for Randon.

>>32374288
Tell me you dont watch kobo without twlling me you dont watch kobo

>>32374068
if you watched male vtubers you can tell he tried to get in the meta since the apple one and a couple of others were gaybait meta back then

>>32373716
why are you sad?
enjoy their seething.
acquire power from it.
understand that this is their life.
for the next
twelve
months
Seethe is all they have left.

>>32374042
Don't reply to me if you're going to ignore my entire point was about Hololive is full of high, healthy numbers compared to Niji being a mess of half dead vtubers. Stupid fuck.

>>32374044
>stopped collabing with males
literally 2 weeks ago
https://youtu.be/PXS3OmqEd6k
and she's just spamming Rust streams for her bigger numbers anyway

>>32374318
It turned into Liquid...

>>32373742
it's not even a good song

>>32374288
god forbid we use stats to determine this rather than dumb theories with little actual predictive power to prove it.

>>32373697
My boy david portnoy only sold barstool sports for $100M and I think they make more money with their gambling app than whatever niji makes...

>>32374224
He's beyond saving

>>32374406
And nijisanji can lose half of those livers while still getting big numbers for company events while hololive is dependent on 4-5 streamers to bring in numbers

Remember that Kobo's highest gaming stream is a collab with indonesian sovietwombat.
HomoJp and HomoEN won't be able to carry her that high and only drag her until she's bleeding viewers and fall into irrelevancy.
EOP unicorns who want to see her recline because of muh male collabs and Homobeggars who think it's free real estate are clueless about this

>>32374369
Implying you watch her.

>>32374068
how the fuck does he panders to fujo with that kind of orc model. do girls even like something like that

>>32373166
Date a live was so shit I don't know why I enjoyed it.

>>32374473
>And nijisanji can lose half of those livers while still getting big numbers
Isn't it because half of nijis are 3 or 2views?

>>32374473
>Hololive is full of high numbers across the board
>retard thinks that means they're dependent on 4-5 streamers
You should neck yourself.

Ojousan badassery full display.

I love numbers, but I hate that anons here are pseudo-statisticians.
Unicucks are using the average cope when there are different variables that involve it.
If you want to compare, at least use the pattern of the max ccvs of streams with similar content that tend to be immune to spam debuffs, like donation reading or zatsudans.
I do not care if the chuubas collab with males as long as I am entertained.

>>32374497
idk actually, do fujos like bara or is that something only gay men like?

>>32373697
Do they not do any research on the company or something?

>>32374497
>do girls even like something like that
you havent dived deep enough into that market havent you? last i checked the most successful gaybait erp has a wolf zoosona or whatever it was called

>>32374425
Fucking hell I keep saying I am collecting the data now and say to wait for at least a few months. People just don't understand and preemptively coping without even knowing what I was talking.

Kobo might as well incline through the sky and I will still analyze it but somehow these fuckers who wants her to collab with Regis are already predicting that she will recline. I wonder why? What is their real intention?

>Another homo timeloop
>Another koshien cope timeloop

>>32374497
Anon did you know why Chloe had to abandon using #orcart as her art hashtag

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1566029014321758208?s=20&t=223CUCvR19hL7ASyRK_-0g
>Kson is learning new 3D technique
Are you afraid now, Super3D poster?
You keep making fun of her
And she's gonna take her revenge

>>32374584
Nice way of outing yourself as a homobeggar, retard

https://youtu.be/Tjx1JYasT8k
Luna on the tally!
She's discussing with her fans about which PC to buy.

>>32374533
Even if they removed maimoto or kuzuha in koshien it will still get huge numbers because people are there for event and not for the livers

>>32374645
holy fuck SUPER3D2

>>32374645
Ultra3D soon!

>>32374584
there is a significant portion of regulars who come in here not because they actually care about the numbers but because they want numbers they can use to back up whatever narrative they are trying to push. The burden of being the most influential thread, I suppose

>>32374645
Will we get Super3D Max now?

>>32374584
the same thing happened with Tempus and "their viewers are just beggars that left after collab". They used Noir's debuff week as sign that the beggars were all leaving after the Calli collab (because "their work was done"), while also ignoring that Altare has been inclining a bit since the kobo collab.

>>32374645
oh god

>>32374478
If you are talking about me on the third due to the discussion, I would say no. I want to see everyone incline, no matter who they collab with. I am just stating that I am collecting data for the theory about male collabs. I don't know whether Kobo will incline or decline down the line.

>>32374645
FUCK YEAH

>>32371639
Ok fuck, I'll give it a watch. First time I'm watching them, but if it's L4D2 then sure.

>>32374497
>forgetting about bara
anon pls

>>32374645
aaaaaaaaaaaieeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>32374696
Damn she's going to skip Arcade edition

>>32374621
this guy has it right>>32374702
>who come in here not because they actually care about the numbers but because they want numbers they can use to back up whatever narrative they are trying to push.

>>32374645
Can't wait for UberUltraDeluxe 3D.

>>32374696
>>32374721
I wonder how much she paid for this disaster.

>>32374639
Did she ever had EN hashtags?

>>32374645
Kekson Super3D: Ultimate. Jesasssss

>>32374497
Tenma from phase connect does

>>32374584
>>32374702
>>32374706
Go away homobeggars. You are not here for the numbers because you don't understand them. You just want to promote your shitty vtubers that you don't even watch.

>>32374706
And you're also ignoring that Altare's incline is much more due to his current game choice than the collab with Kobo.

>>32374621
If she was reclining prior to the collab, that already gives us the predictive power to tell that she will probably recline tomorrow. That's how trends work. If she doesn't recline, then that's a sign that the prior recline was either stemmed by the collab, or some other factor is at play. That's just how trends work, just take any basic intro to stats class.

>>32374645
Vshojo management please fucking stop her from committing more vtubing atrocities. She's part of your brand now...

>>32374760
>Disaster
I think you meant masterpiece

>>32374788
>he thinks its only restricted in the en side
oh you poor naive anon

>>32374452
Anycolor pitched themselves as though vtubers are a distinct market where they're the biggest player. This is dumb. They're competing with every other source of entertainment, as are Cover.
If you want a specific example of how stupid their valuation is, Kadokawa have 2x Anycolor's market cap with 17x their revenue and 10x their profit.

>>32374645
Why would she double down?!?!?!

>>32374808
>>32374654
homobeggars has lost all meaning because this guy keeps misusing it

>>32374807
no I agree, it's due to game choice. The point is that if the beggar theory was true - which alleged that buff debuff was smaller than the beggar amounts - then he should have reclined after the first collab rather than inclined.

>>32374678
You say that like it's purely a good thing. lmao.

>>32374755
Stop replying to yourself. I am actually putting out a theory upfront and let the data run instead of grabbing data to fit narrative like you.

>>32374645
How is that beneficial to her stream quality? That is managerial territory. Or is she just learning do make donut on Blender?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_JOXosJVNo

give me numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_JOXosJVNo

Featured brainiacs;
@Ninomae Ina'nis Ch. hololive-EN
@Kureiji Ollie Ch. hololive-ID
@IRyS Ch. hololive-EN
@Ouro Kronii Ch. hololive-EN
@Nanashi Mumei Ch. hololive-EN
@Hakos Baelz Ch. hololive-EN

Due to last minute schedule clashes, our original class of eight has been shrunk to six!

>>32374645
>this is what is known as a super 3D that has ascended past a super 3D, or you could just call this a super 3D two

>>32374895
I mean it means the company is more stable compared to cover who has to rely on 4-5 streamers

>>32374826
Kadokawa also has way more tangible products.

>>32374927
35k

>>32374928
>Kureiji Ollie
Fuck

>>32374874
No. The girls are collabing with males and they are defending this action now because in the future they can openly say "x-holo should collab with y-homo". This is their technique since forever.

>>32374928
Mori and Kronii

>>32374224
i kinda feel bad to him.
Management numberfagging & his numberrot brain really takes a toll on him mentally.
let me tell ya, i always see this type of behavior from numberfag fleshie/content creator & it never ends well in the long term.

>>32374928
>Bae
>Ollie
God why

>>32374928
sub 30k lol this will slip to enna

>>32374692
That isn't even her final form.

>>32374927
>Ollie
Take 2k off of your predictions

>>32374719
> I am collecting data for the theory about male collabs.
You have to consider IOPs too since they're a large chunk of Kobo's viewers, I'll say if Kobo collab with StarsID and reclined, it's true that collab with males will hurt the girl's numbers

>>32374928
>Ollie
aaiiiieeee

>>32374928
>Due to last minute schedule clashes, our original class of eight has been shrunk to six!
So Ame pulled out because she's still angry at Gura, huh?

>>32374980
I don't like it therefore I'll call him a homobeggar is not exactly putting things in your favor

>>32374995
fml
kronii is actually participating

>>32374927
>>32374928
The other 2 is Mori and Watson isn't it ?

>>32374473
If Nijifans want Nijisanji to be a once a year big event organizer then sure.
Why are you here now?? Come back next year with your Koshien, till then have a backseat maybe get a chair to sit

>>32374719
also put into consideration the iop since it was a huge factor for kobo being popular

>200 waiting on Gura's stream
It's fucking over

>>32374928
Moona...

>>32374928
>Ollie
>Bae
Numbers poison. Kronii is not a numbers debuff but definitely stream quality debuff.

>>32374478
I wonder why she keeps collabing with Stars tho. Like, she's better off collabing with local fleshtubers. She genuinely had fun and the numbers are satisfactory. She also has some cred among local streamers and her audience would also enjoy it more.

>>32374928
Faunabros............

>>32374928
>Ollie
>Bae
Nah I wish I can turn in but those 2 filter me so bad, also bet they gonna shill homos on stream

>>32374928
>ollie
>bae

>>32375088
yeah they are still salty about their retardation in rust

>>32374826
Jesas. Now I know the sudden pressure for the livers. Everyone might sell sell sell all their stocks after the lock out lmao.

>>32375020
I was almost going to watch too...

>>32375088
no, Moona was supposed to be part of it but I guess it was too early
I wouldn't be surprised if the other one was supposed to be either Zeta or Kaela because they have a real life event on that day

>>32375141
She would've IQ mogged everyone else.

>>32375018
I don't, he (and Mysta) ruined NijiEN as far as I'm concerned.

>>32374928
>Ame not invited
AHAHAHAHA OF COURSE

>>32374928
Ame and Moona are the ones who pulled out?

>>32375088
It was moona and the other one was kaela i think

>>32374811
Let me make it clear
1. I am going to analyze a trend over time instead of short term effects. This means that I will look at ALL the stream average/peaks and look at their context at the same time, and I will look at it from start of September until probably the end of the year or even longer.
2. Regis/Kobo or any homo/kobo collab should be a regular thing for this data to be meaningful. If for example Kobo stopped collabing with Regis or any other homo in October onwards, my data will be useless and I will just abandon them.
This shit I am imposed on the theory is stricter than you thought.

>>32374995
Kronii is there faggot

>>32375134
Kronii and IRyS together means they'll be arguing over everyone

>>32374928
>SNOT without Faufau

>>32373833
>>32373326

>>32375231
might be kaela since i think they are doing something that day related to the emergency meeting id had

>>32375200
It's 7AM SEA time anon. It's not that early

>>32374928
>Bae
>Ollie
Ok I revise my predictions
25k max
35k kneel territory

Holy shit. I was just shitposting about cute stream scuff like not starting on time. Who could have predicted this.

>>32374654
Retard. I am not a homobeggar. kys.
Homobeggars want males to collab with females. Unicucks do not want it. I don't care as long as they actually deliver entertainment out of their collab.
However, I care for their careers too. I prefer that they keep their core fans. If they attract incels, protect them. If they attract unityfags, spam collabs.

>>32374928
>no watson
It's over..

>>32375076
Do you just replace my reply with whatever you thought out in your head?

>>32375316
Seven am on a weekend is fucking early, what are you talking about?

>>32375141
>>32375297
You can pretty much guarantee Fauna isn't there because Gura thought she'd sweep everyone and make it boring

I don't care about Gura in general but what is the hype around this stream ??? Why all of you sound disappointed?

>>32375046
>>32375108
Well, it is like saying "you have to take into account unicorns because that is one of the reason that the girl incline". Yes I will take into account every factor, including IOPs.

>>32375469
ollie and bae are debuffs on par with kiara's voice

>>32375469
The guests

>>32375309
Nope, if it was Kaela it's because she'll be at this event tomorrow and the schedule was probably too tight for that
https://twitter.com/animefestasia/status/1563368712417460226

>>32375469
Has to do with the Myth Anniversary also coming up this month

>>32375268
nta (You) do not have to justify yourself in this den. I make stupid tallies and post erratically. And will continue to do so.

>>32375469
>Why all of you sound disappointed?
When was the last time EN collab together that is not impromtu block games collab or celebration/anniversary?