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>> No.32347267
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.32347268

Nijikek

>> No.32347287
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Ni hao Paul Li

>> No.32347289

What did Nijisanji do to make Indonesians seethe so much?

>> No.32347318
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>47,845: Ayame (Hololive)
>31,563: Marine (Hololive)
>31,244: Kobo (Hololive)
>23,232: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,345: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>20,774: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,146: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,398: Towa (Hololive)
>15,870: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,502: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,117: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,110: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,387: Met (774 Inc.)
>10,350: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,196: Watame (Hololive)

>> No.32347322

>>32347289
They failed NijiID

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>>32347289
Selamat pagi

>> No.32347338

>>32347287
kek

>> No.32347354

>>32347231
anon why would you think any of us know what females are like?

>> No.32347355

What went wrong with Nijisanji? Why do they keep losing?

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>>32347236
/news/ roundup for 02-09-2022
>>32298191
Recent clip numbers
>>32281010
>>32281042
>>32281115
>>32281145

>> No.32347385

>>32347289
Abandoned their jungle branch

>> No.32347400

>>32347287
Paul Li is canadian, retard. Born in canada, he just has chinese race.
the guy only speak japanese and english
>>32347080
It's not about being shitty. They have a lot of riggers in there.
They literally went to live 2D in 2018 because it was cheaper, thats why their quality isnt like this and ever will going to improve. Investment only goes to 3D. 2D is to be functional, and that has been the case since then.
What they do is contract riggers and their recruitment for those are always open. But the tech itself never will change that much even in 2.0 or 3.0.

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>>32347322

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>>32347289
Vox is haram

>> No.32347436

>>32347402
Siska should've been In Holo

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>>32347355
fuck off, nijishill

>> No.32347480

>>32347436
Siska should've roped herself

>> No.32347484
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Why is Finana copying Hololive?
Did this shitter think she was Kobo?

>> No.32347490

>>32347400
NTA, why can't Niji's new debut start with 2.0 or even 3.0 models?

>> No.32347500

>>32347400
你好吗

>> No.32347511
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Yagoo status?

>> No.32347541

Not fans of kobo but i love that she keep mindbroke nijisis everyday.

and probably mindbroken riku aswell since she got popular after nijiid got abandoned kek

>> No.32347547

>>32347484
What did she copy

>> No.32347572

>>32347461
This is the most offensive thing anybody has ever called me on this website

>> No.32347579

>>32347511
In heaven and hell at the same time, heaven because tempus are getting good views, hell because he knows it won't incline JPstars much is any.

>> No.32347589

>>32347541
She shat on Vshojokeks with a hattrick earlier as well

>> No.32347593

>>32347355
Riku doesn't care about his livers, only how much money they will bring him. This is why they keep debuting so much new talents without give a shit about how well they perform in the long run

>> No.32347599

>>32347490
Manufactured event for the liver to cash on to call it "3.0 celebration" along those lines

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>>32347367
Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022
>>32140520
Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time
>>32144719
August 2022 tables
>>32228769
>>32229568
>>32232534
>>32233601

>> No.32347601

>>32347490
>ACCELERATE

>> No.32347604

>>32347500
Fuck off

>> No.32347629

>>32347400
>But the tech itself never will change that much even in 2.0 or 3.0.
But why tho? They popularize this meta but, refuse to improving it like cover. That's just sounds dumb. Especially when they focused on AR while there's already tons of ARcorpo that way ahead of them both on tech and price

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>September events

Hololive
>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)
>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)/ Botan new outfit
>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)
>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)
>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update
>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)

Nijisanji
>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)
>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release
>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)
>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)
>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)

>> No.32347665

>>32347484
Really shameless kek. She thought she could get big numbers after seeing Kobo win the gold yesterday.

>> No.32347667

So when will isolar debut?

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>>32347604

>> No.32347707

>>32347649
Is Choco going to do a 3D Live?

>> No.32347718

>>32347667
Winter solstice

>> No.32347726

>>32347667
Solaris, November

>> No.32347744

>>32347593
>Riku doesn't care about his livers, only how much money they will bring him
>Giving 3 low ccv ID livers an update
???

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32347750

Probably days late now, but turns out all of Kaela's merch was limited.
I don't think any Holo's birthday merch has not been made-to-order before. Usually the limited part is just the hand-signed postcard.
I'm sad, merchbros...

>> No.32347754

>>32347667
I don't think Paul Li will debut a new gen after seeing iLuna numbers

>> No.32347787

>>32347490
start with lowest cost, if they flop within 1 year and graduate, no expense cost spent
this is why niji only give 3d and bush ups if they meet expectations or how long they have served niji

>> No.32347786

>>32347707
nothing announced yet but its very likely

>> No.32347805

>>32347744
>Abandoned ID and KR
?

>> No.32347821

>>32347750
Iofi's was limited too I think

>> No.32347822

>>32347511
Weeping tears of joy

>> No.32347836

imagine being the first in the ID market and shat the bed so hard you have to shut it down. months later your rival opens a branch in the place you left and have gotten successful vtubers from there. how would (you) feel?

>> No.32347849

>>32347750
Your fault for taking so long

>> No.32347863

>>32347805
>Abandoned ID and KR
>ex-ID getting 2.0 this week
?

>> No.32347867

>>32347667
when EN3 got announced

>> No.32347873

>>32347750
new fans have to pay the 50% scalper fee. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.32347890

>>32347667
(You)Solar when

>> No.32347893

>>32347836
I'd kill myself for being such a failure, personally

>> No.32347895

>>32347511
Damn, Stars inclining to heavens. Slow and steady wins the race I guess.

>> No.32347899

niji is proven never to give the livers help early in their career, they have to prove it if they are worthy to get niji official help

>> No.32347903

>>32347750
The same thing happened to iofi's birthday merch, I think they are engaging some different manufacturer for Indonesia which has tighter limitations
On the up side they deliver in about two months

>> No.32347906

>>32347863
>Merch birthday from fans
?

>> No.32347922

>>32347906
Kek

>> No.32347928

>>32347786
Cool, thanks, anon

>> No.32347940

>>32347726
>Giving low tier 3 ccv ID an update after seeing the success of kobo*
Just like how they opened an EN branch after seeing the success of myth.

>> No.32347949

Do you guys think Holostars ID has a chance to be popular like HoloID? i think if starsID ever happened they have chance to do well in ID unlike starsEN & starsJP.
there's perk of ID market doesn't have gachikoi culture

>> No.32347950

>>32347744
They killed them off themself and put a "EX" shitstain on their name

>> No.32347967

>>32347906
please anon, don't make me remember about that sad thing...

>> No.32347975

>>32347949
No

>> No.32347980

>>32347893
If you can't beat them, join them.

>> No.32347993

>>32347903
Damn Kobofans better get prepared for the worse then during her birthday

>> No.32347994

>>32347836
HoloID3 literally debuted two weeks after the closure of the nijiID branch was announced. There literally is no worse timing for them.

>> No.32348004

What went wrong with HoloEN? Why do they keep collabing with males?

>> No.32348006

>>32347836
Niji only need to reap what they sow after that investment. but they went retard and had to pull out from ID market because ipo

>> No.32348020
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list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>> No.32348025

>>32347906
imagine if the 2.0 was made by fans LMAO

>> No.32348026

>>32347949
No, or at least it seems kinda risky, the only reason they made StarsEN is because StarsJP had a lot of english speaking fans.

>> No.32348028

>>32347786
She already announced it and the guests retard

>> No.32348050

>>32348004
why not it's up to them like in holo JP

>> No.32348064

>>32348028
No she didnt you fucking liar. Eat my ass

>> No.32348100

>>32347994
Not to mention ID3 just exploded in popularity and renew the hype withing the ID market..

>> No.32348104

>>32348004
They don't respect what their senpais built

>> No.32348105

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1565930423284531200

Haachama lewd pic review stream got shutdown by management

>> No.32348108

>>32347863
They shutdown Taiwan and India too

>> No.32348126

>>32348026
I see, i dont know if ID market is good for male vtuber, is there popular ID vtuber? how's their number(sub, Vod view, CCV,etc) ?

>> No.32348131

>>32348025
Anon. please dont ruin my day with this sad thing

>> No.32348155

>>32348105
what changed?

>> No.32348157

>>32347949
Brownies got tiny dicks. I'm sorry but they have no place in a global brand like Hololive.

>> No.32348159

>>32348105
Is it related to okayu's ASMR got banned?

>> No.32348182

>>32348126 (me)
*i mean popular male ID vtuber

>> No.32348189

>>32347400
Canada has a city full of chinks, literally with mandarin all over the place and barely any english

>> No.32348194

>>32348159
It did?

>> No.32348201

>>32348105
Just join vshojou already

>> No.32348202

>>32348105
>postponed
I wonder which of Yagoo's immediate family is she going to kidnap to get perms

>> No.32348217

>>32348004
Sora and FBKing, both pillars of holo, regularly collabs with homos. I see nothing wrong with it unless you openly flirt like what Millie did to Alban.

>> No.32348220

>>32348159
what?

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>>32348105
even chama can't do her creatividad anymore... HOLOLIVE IS FINISHED!

>> No.32348226

>>32348126
indie?
mythia with 600k ish subs.
she probably make vtuber id scene more popular before kobo debut

>> No.32348238

>>32348159
qrd?

>> No.32348242

>>32348064
https://youtu.be/-ByxMmDO1Gw?t=2120
Fuck off loser.

>> No.32348255

I have 2 theories that are current being test out thanks to holoEN members and their management.
>1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubers
This theory is tried and tested in nijiJP and the hypothesis turn out to be true. We just need to see whether it can be recreated by holoEN and starsEN. So far we are seeing an incline of Regis in terms of subs and Nowa is still ahead among his peers. Now we just need to see either Kronii or Kobo to be constantly collabing with males to see the effect on the subs of the girl's side. We can test it out on Bae, Mori and Ollie too but their result might be less significant
>2. Diluting the distinction between hololive EN and holostars EN will reduce the prestige of hololive brand overall
EN management is pushing hard for "hololive = holopro, you didn't know?" path to promote holostars EN since its inception. HoloEN twitter even became holoproEN twitter just to muddy the water even more. My hypothesis is that by doing so, the hololive lost is distinctiveness in the market and is prone to losing regular/loyal customers as it will slowly become "just another vtuber corpo" in the west. This will in turn hurt their revenue and even worse, let their competitors find rooms to grow. With Project Kawaii resembling what holoJP and holoEN themselves getting close to nijiEN in terms of content, I am seeing that both companies will be able to siphon customers from holoEN and even starsEN. Of course, the vtuber market is still growing so if I want to see the effect I cannot just look at holoEN's sales growth, but need to look at it in relationship of other companies' sales growth.

All in all, these 2 theories require quite some time to test and we need the talents and management to stick to their guns in terms of what they are doing now. Some might say they are destroying hololive, but for me it is an opportunity to do science.

>> No.32348275

>>32348217
I thought Gura was Alban's true love? What's he doing with the fat indog?

>> No.32348308

>>32348242
> meds on screen
kek

>> No.32348312

>>32348255
Never let a crisis goes to waste.

>> No.32348317

>>32347490
can't say I know. Some models are ofc better than others, not all have the same quality.
2.0 isn't a thing in EN for example, probably because their models are advanced in comparison. so for them likely 3.0 would be the evolution.
>>32347950
They didn't put "Ex" in their name. Are you retarded anon? ID and KR put it themselves, likely based on how exGamers and exSEEDS did the same after the 2018 merger.
>>32347940
They have been giving 2.0 to ID since 2021, same to KR.
>>32347906
Not that i disagree they were abandoned in terms of merchandise, but you are ignoring the existence of Seffyna and Nari custom merch
>>32347629
Can't say I know. They invest a lot more in 3D, AR and other technologies. To me it seems they only want the 2D to be functional, not a complete mess. There's still improvements ofc but they aren't very big.

>> No.32348346

>>32348226
im talking about male ID vtuber, sorry i left out typo

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i thought this collab with eseleb? will bring numbers like kobo. guess im wrong

>> No.32348360

>>32348317
>They didn't put "Ex" in their name.
Nigger nijiID as an official organisation no longer exists, stop coping

>> No.32348368

>>32348189
seriously?

>> No.32348387

>>32348108
Anycolor shut down ID, yes. Anycolor never shutdown Shangai and Taipei because it never have been under their own management but a company that lost their license in the same year before having a new name and then closing off
>The branches began running from 24 August 2018. However, CAPSULE lost the license for the "NIJISANJI" brand and they abandoned the name on 29 March 2019, changing their name to VEgo.

>> No.32348403

>>32348346
Andi adinata from maha 5 with 639k subs..i dont know any other than him

>> No.32348409

>>32348368
Yeah, it's called "chinatown"

>> No.32348428

>>32348004
People make a lot of fuss over “unicorns” supposedly harassing and trying to control them not to collab with males but I kind of wonder if the opposite isn’t true.
Isn’t it pretty likely that they actually feel pressured to collab with males so they don’t look like they’re pandering to incels or whatever.
A lot of the vtuber community looks down on people that don’t want to watch males regardless of the actual reasons behind it.

>> No.32348461

>>32348360
Are you a retard? That's fucking obvious. What Im saying is that Nijisanji doesn't give "Ex" to the name of anyone. They are Nijisanji. The own vtubers pick it. I literally gave you the example from gamers and seeds in how they do the same thing since 2018. ID and KR do the same like them, because even though they are in Nijisanji, they still want to show their origins.

>> No.32348470

>>32348428
Thats why both homobeggar and unicucks deserve the rope

>> No.32348484

>>32348217
That is why they are shitters and will never reach Pekora's feet

>> No.32348492

>>32348020
EN 3 illustrators
>Fumikane
>Yoshinori
>Konishi
>Parsley
>Fujikawa
Theme has been decided but is not leaked yet. All 5 members will speak fluent English and Japanese and will collab with holoJP on a regular basis.

>> No.32348518

>>32348194
>>32348220
>>32348238
See >>32341191

>> No.32348523

>>32348492
Kys liar. EN3 is never happening.

>> No.32348528

>>32348255
>HoloproEN twitter name change matters when less than 30% of male fans use twitter, nonetheless live on it like sisters

>losing clipnormies to Project Kawaii of all trash hole 3views

>losing its distinctiveness in the market when any enfranchised fan knows that "idol" is something the chuubas turn into for maybe 2 times a year for holofes and their 3dlive, 90% of the rest of the time they're more like entertainers or 'tarentos'

cool thesis sis

>> No.32348540

>>32348492
>fumikane
first mechasis vtuber since Roboco?

>> No.32348556

Why does IRyS not openly accept gachikoi and unicorns? She could capture the audience that others are abandoning and incline.

>> No.32348564

>>32348255
I know you mentioned Kawaii but I think Phase would be a good small corpo to look at since they've been inclining a seemingly present themselves as an alternative to Holo and Niji

I don't think we're likely to get anyting super conclusive with the StarsEN HoloEN comparisons. Kronii has been in the process of reclining for a bit so it's difficult to say, one way or the other

>> No.32348565

>>32348518
Finally ASMR is banned. I hope soon it will be blanket ban on this kind of content on Youtube.

>> No.32348576

>>32348403
Nah. Andi was trying to jump ship to NijiID because Maha5 just doesn't have the global appeal he badly wanted.

>> No.32348577

>>32348255
I belib

>> No.32348583

>>32348403
that's actually pretty decent number, what's his content?
if they can pull it right, starsID can do well (MAYBE not Kobo tier but mid tier ID isnt bad)

>> No.32348594

>>32348349
virgin english celeb
vs
Chad ingod celebs.

>> No.32348601

>>32348349
Isn't this bitch also collabing with Magni?

>> No.32348614

>>32348528
Most of the girls still refer to themselves as idols regardless of your schizo take on what a "true idol" is

>> No.32348630

>>32348492
>Parsley
I would kill for EN Chloe but I don't think Hololive reuses designers.

>> No.32348640

>thinking 2views will siphon Holoviews
Kek. Even with absolute no streams from EN, the views barely went down. Debut of EN3 will show insane numbers that will trump Salami.

>> No.32348654

>>32348614
you can't be saved if you're incapable of understanding a 4 years running joke

>> No.32348673

>>32348255
I’d rather not lose Holo EN in the pursuit of science, thanks.
Also I’m mad now that you’ve reminded me of management’s attempt to blur the lines. I’d like to see them pull those same stunts with the JPs.

>> No.32348705

>>32348255
this is what homobeggars want to believe

>> No.32348711

>>32347750
You're too slow

>> No.32348721

>>32348255
>With Project Kawaii resembling what holoJP and holoEN themselves getting close to nijiEN in terms of content, I am seeing that both companies will be able to siphon customers from holoEN and even starsEN
I can confirm this thesis, since I only watch and give money to HoloJP and Kawaii

>> No.32348726

>>32348630
Korone and Civia has the same mama IIRC. same with Spade Echo and Ayame, and or course there's Ordan with Miko, A-chan, Nodoka, and Sora. but yeah they don't do repeat mamas on the recent ones.

>> No.32348731

>>32348614
doesnt matter
kiara (a real, successful idol) said that holomem are not real idols

>> No.32348737

>>32348255
The best shitposting is the one the anon actually believes.

>> No.32348738

>>32348255
>1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubers
i dont understand this logic, the boys and the girls has different audience no? i get it will make the girls recline but how come it makes the male incline just by collabing with girl, when the audience are different?

>> No.32348742

>>32348528
Hi EN-homobeggar.
1. Twitter handle change is about the direction of the management. As an analogy, it is a symptom of a "disease", not the disease itself.
2. Project Kawaii and nijiEN are just examples. There might be other corpo in the future.
3. I never talk about "idol" stuff. The distinction of hololive from other vtuber agencies is pretty clear. They are females only, and they don't outright whoring themselves out (albeit there are lewd undertone from time to time).

>> No.32348747

>>32348317
>They invest a lot more in 3D, AR and other technologies.
Welp. I guess making VRstudios kinda a good investment since many would use/rent it and they could use whenever for their own concert. But, their 2D and 3D shitty in-house rigger still pisses me off

>> No.32348749

>>32348630
Hololive reuses designers for outfits.

>> No.32348755

>>32348731
Of course you're a kfp

>> No.32348757

>>32348583
gaming , cover etc, just like usual vtuber content.
well despite his high subs, his ccv is pretty low

>> No.32348775

I can't believe angry birds is leeching off of bae of all people
https://twitter.com/AngryBirds/status/1565639874191020038

>> No.32348803
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>>32348673
The official Hololive JP twitter already constantly retweets StarsJP's tweets and schedules.
It's my personal theory why people don't like the main channel, it feels like spam.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv

>> No.32348808

>>32348742
Eigo Jouzu!

>> No.32348820

>>32348808
Thanks man

>> No.32348828

>>32348673
But they did. Once upon a time, a certain beyblade vtuber was rising to divide the stigma between Holo and Homo. Sadly, he was caught by management and got charged with false accusation of underground beyblade gambling. This guy was able to get attention to Coco and Watame.

>> No.32348858

>>32348564
Kronii was reclining but stagnated for a few months already. Currently it is hard to say I agree, however I think the reason is that she hasn't done the collab as regularly to be able to make it into the factor.

>> No.32348878

>>32348518
That's not really new though, it's the same restrictions that she's been dealing with since March

>> No.32348881

>>32348775
39K. holy hell how?

>> No.32348890

>>32348775
reminder that this was at 120 likes the other night and people said dead account

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>>32348255
>Mori has trash numbers
>Bae has trash numbers
>Mumei has good numbers
>Fauna has good numbers
>Gura has good numbers
I wonder what the correlation is

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32348922

>>32348523

>> No.32348928

>Just 10K nijiJP , Bro just 10k stream i’m not ask you for much ?

TT please

>> No.32348931

>>32348908
3 of these stream good games

>> No.32348941

>>32348803
I was more referencing the Omega tweet and the watch party they did on the Holo EN channel for Stars EN.

>> No.32348944

>>32348738
Long story short, the girls will be seen as accessories to the boys if they collab frequently.

>> No.32348946

>>32348775
>Bae will incline using normie power
That's kinda scary if it works

>> No.32348955

Ayame 3D frame is up. Hoping she follows the new 2022 3D meta and not Aquaslip's

>> No.32348982

>>32348775
Their tweets prior were barely breaking 500 likes lmao

>> No.32348986

>>32348747
I particularly dont care too much because i really only care about it not being idk, gura 2nd outfit level. so in any agency i just dont want to be a mess.
now 3D? thats a gift you have, so if 3D is terrible, thats a problem to me
for anycolor, i think they invest more in 3D and AR because of concerts and events where they need to use 3D, so they see it more worthy than 2D

>> No.32348990

>>32348928

August 2023

>> No.32349012

btw what happen with VirtualReal (Official NijiCN)?

>> No.32349021

>>32348890
It was, their last tweets got 500 likes and before this I don't think they got a single 5digit like tweet in years

>> No.32349028

>>32348931
cope

>> No.32349037

>>32349012
They are still streaming.

>> No.32349041

>>32348931
Gura could stream JRPGs every day and still mog those cum dumps

>> No.32349044 [DELETED] 

>>32348908
Being a normalfag whore with a bf = good numbers

>> No.32349047

>>32349012
Aren't they part of Nijifes?

>> No.32349054
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>>32348775
>>32348881
>>32348982
>caring about twitter numbers
Dont make the same mistake as nijiniggers

>> No.32349061

>>32348946
That would be nice, the zoomer rat could finally have a zoomer audiencd

>> No.32349066

>>32348775
>>32348881
>>32348946
>>32348982
Where did these people come from then? It didn't come from Bar, it definitely isn't from Angry Birds. How'd this trend?

>> No.32349071

>>32348540
You want the ship version or the jet version?

>> No.32349097

>>32349012
wdym what happen? they still are active. they just announced 3 new members a few days ago. and a few months ago they added a fleshtuber into virtuareal star
virtuareal will be in nijifes, be it in 2d and also in 3D

>> No.32349102

>>32349037
are they bigger than fake NijiCN

>> No.32349115

>>32349012
They are still around.
That's about as much as I can tell you because as far as we are concerned bilibili might as well be on Mars for all that we care about them.

>> No.32349124

>>32349102
no

>> No.32349128

>>32349054
HomoStars and Bae have the same audience as NijiEN

>> No.32349141 [DELETED] 

>>32348908
Having a boyfriend=big numbers?
Seriously why do people keep pretending to be unicorns for Mumei and Fauna?

>> No.32349153

>>32349102
Cope virtualnigger. EN js bigger than virtuareal will ever be

>> No.32349154

>>32349066
It went viral because LOL anime girl plays angry birds

>> No.32349161

>>32349097
>they added a fleshtuber into virtuareal star
What

>> No.32349172

>>32349124
how

>> No.32349173

>>32349097
thing with virtuareal is that their management is from bilibili and they are a joint venture between anykara and bili2, so they are a chinese branch but they arent exactly a branch but their own company where two others own their shares. imagine the pokemon company with nintendo, gamefreak and creatures

>> No.32349177

Despite lazulight and hana going to Japan for a 3D, I don't think they will have enough time to practice dancing or singing when they get there. Are they just going to use paid dancers while lip syncing?

>> No.32349210

>>32349044
So why doesn't Kronii have good numbers?

>> No.32349214

>>32348738
It's typical hindsight analysis and drawing conclusions from that.
People see Niji males get way higher numbers than the girls and then assume that the boys get advantages from the girls and the girls lose fans because of male collabs.

In reality, the decline of Nijigirls is more likely due to Hololive blowing up and being the de-facto group to watch for female vtubers.
Even then, most of the strong Nijigirls (Sanbaka, Sasaki/Shiina) didn't decline that much, they just didn't incline either so their numbers look bad in 2022 compared to Holos, who have massively inclined.

In NijiEN, most of the girls numbers were bad from the start and some are slightly better now so idk where this whole "females are accessory to the boys" thing comes from when from the very start, they already had worse numbers than the boys.
Millie and Finana aren't going get thousands of more viewers if NijiEN males didn't exist.

>> No.32349216
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32349216

I knew it! Subaru self insert as Rise instead of MC!

>> No.32349218

>>32349177
>dancing or singing
Nijisanji is not idols, no one cares about that

>> No.32349241

>>32349177
>dancing
who said they will dance?

>> No.32349249

>>32349161
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/VirtuaReal#VirtuaReal_Star
got it wrong, it wasnt a fleshtuber but VA
virtuareal star is a project where big chinese celebrities become vtubers under virtuareal

>> No.32349257

>>32349141
Mumei could've fucked the entire country of Canada before joiningfor all unicorns care, you really don't understand the mentality of a unicorn if you think that is a deal breaker.

>> No.32349261

>>32349216
Subaru is a whore. We get it Aqua

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32349267

>>32349071
i'm ogey with mobile suit girls please be a loli like Base-chan

>> No.32349269

>>32349141
Sister, you are basically admitting unicorn gave them those number

>> No.32349273

>>32349177
Did you mix up Hololive and Nijisanji?
Why would they need to dance? They're not idols.

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32349276

>>32349054
>mistake
What mistake? Look at this banger of a tweet from a huge NijiEN talent. HoLOLs wish they could get this level of interaction. Surely all these likes on Twitter translate to viewers.

>> No.32349277

>>32349216
this is relevant to my interests. but also, Numbers?

>> No.32349284

https://youtu.be/UY9MNJwmcWI
holy shit botan -> ayame -> marine funnel incoming ?

>> No.32349306

>>32349276
That's semen, not drool

>> No.32349324

>>32349276
Pussy juice stains when?

>> No.32349326

>>32349214
Those Niji girls that are still doing well are Holo adjacents that's why people keep saying Nijisanji blocking off Holo collabs is a dumb move.

>> No.32349336

>>32349177
anon, do you realize they are going to be in nijifes in a panel and not exactly doing a 3D debut? they also dont need to dance if they dont want to. Oliver didnt dance or sing on his 3D debut.
>>32349214
This thing for being acessories is such retardation because it ignores Belmond, Hajime, Kou and many males who are behind many female nijis.

>> No.32349380

>>32349276
it definitely cum, she had raw sex, and someone spurt it outside

>> No.32349382

>>32349012
They're up to wave 17 I think? Something like that.

>> No.32349385

>>32349214
>idk where this whole "females are accessory to the boys" thing comes from when from the very start, they already had worse numbers than the boys.
It comes from the fact that the females only get good numbers when in a collab with a male. And by good numbers I mean "literally 5-10 times as much as they get regularly" which gives off the impression that they are only there to support the boys and are irrelevant when ever they aren't being eye candy

>> No.32349389

>>32349210
she's a maidenless lesbian

>> No.32349397

>>32349326
No, they aren't. Mito isn't holo adjacent, Ange isn't holo adjacent, Salome isn't, Lize isn't, Sasaki isn't, Nui isn't, you can go on. Even your examples with Hoshikawa, she does like 1 collab 3 months, while with Toko she only collab frequently with Suisei.

>> No.32349414

>>32349214
NijiEN is not really a good metric because the males and females debut at different time except for iluna (and look at iluna's males and females numbers).
For exgamers as you mentioned the females really did reclined while males are getting better numbers. Hololive exploded is not a really good factor because some people only watch niji but not holo (and vice versa). You can see this in starsJP as well. CCV is an indication for the frequencies of female collabs for holostarsJP. The higher the ccv, the more that holostar collabed with female chuubas.

>> No.32349419

>>32349141
>>32349257
I'm not a fan of Fauna or Mumei, but they don't have collabs or talk about men on Twitter like Kronii. This helps to keep kayfabe and fans who don't know about their rm are not affected

>> No.32349463

>>32349249
They had a drama last time they hired a top streamer, leading to graduation / termination.

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>>32348523
I know this smell...

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32349474

>>32349276

>> No.32349477

>>32349389
Rumao. Do your reps

>> No.32349487

>>32349385
But this type of behavior always happens when less popular vtuber hosts more popular vtuber for a collab.
Like a Gura collab basically took Reine from 2k to 15k, but calling HoloID a HoloEN accessory is stupid.
No shit Mysta can take Petra to 10k in a collab, he's way more popular than she is.

>> No.32349488

>>32349385
So how about the many other males who aren't big and only get big numbers when they collab with the big girls? Have you seen belmond streams? hes on the 1k range and get big numbers when he collab with Ars or Ange, like 6k with ars or over 10k. Is he also an acessory? this has nothing to do with gender but some female being less popular than other male and some female being more popular than other male. its a simple logic when looking at the entire thing

>> No.32349520

>>32349276
Why would you tweet this shit. Is everyone in NijiEN legitimately retarded (not the cute kind)

>> No.32349523

>>32349269
No I’m saying all the people here pretending their unicorns for Mumei or Fauna are LARPing SEAniggers who just want to stir the muh idol culture pot.

>> No.32349532

>>32348518
>meanwhile vox's rape asmr is still up

>> No.32349542

Do you think Holofest 4 would be bigger than this year and would Cover ask Myth and ID 1 to make a new OG song or cover a song for a performance next year? I assume Holofest would now be 3 days instead of 2 since there would be holox, id2 and council performing. In 2024, they don't need to increase the days again since 3 days is enough to fit JP7, EN 3 and ID 3 on stage. I wonder if Cover would also provide branch OG songs to EN and ID so they could perform as one branch on the stage when they get to japan.

>> No.32349545

Why doesn't Ollie collab with ecelebs anymore? Couldn't she have squeezed herself in with Kobo? She could also hit up with OTV and trash taste again

>> No.32349547

>>32349463
i dont think anyone from vr star ever graduated. most recent graduation from vr is from the main vr and it was the girls who died irl

>> No.32349554

>>32349276
Damn, this is too much for a desperation....
Is she still reclining?

>> No.32349557

>>32349487
Gura and Reine don't collab every week now do they?

>> No.32349561

>>32349214
I think that's the biggest difference between Vspo and Nijisanji. Vspo managed to keep their girls individuality intact which Nijisanji management couldn't achieve for their girls and could only relegate them as mere accessories to other male talents.

>> No.32349565

>>32349532
Is management lying to the Holos, or is Youtube unfairly targeting Hololive?

>> No.32349602

>>32349414
>except for iluna (and look at iluna's males and females numbers).
You seem to greatly overestimate the difference.
They're all in the 1-3k range now and Aster is the worst performing male in the branch.
> CCV is an indication for the frequencies of female collabs for holostarsJP. The higher the ccv, the more that holostar collabed with female chuubas.
That's because StarsJP is very unpopular and HoloJP is popular. If Tempus collabed with StarsJP, their numbers would be up too because they're more popular than StarsJP.

>> No.32349628

Did Kobo and Vesper mindbreak numberfags that much that they start to throw baseless baits in this thread?

>> No.32349644

>>32349545
ollie isn't entertaining, anon. she's also ridiculously bad at Apex while kobo was able to talk and play with ecelebs in valorant last night. go figure.

Kobo is gonna be collabing in games with ecelebs and she can also collab with ID singers

>> No.32349654

>>32349602
You forgot Aia.

>> No.32349670

>>32349532
yt is very racist and misogynistic
what do you expect?

>> No.32349676

>>32349565
Or management aren’t willing to risk Okayu channel going down.

>> No.32349675

>>32349214
At the end of the day, isn’t that effectively the same reason for their decline despite specifics?
The conclusion either way seems to be that most people just want to watch cgdct and Hololive provided that in spades by creating a female only group.

>> No.32349690

>>32349488
You are just looking at the conclusion and not the reason behind it. Ange, Ars and Chigusa could've higher ccv if they are in VSPO. Their numbers in nijiJP are already nerfed numbers. Also for some reason the "accessory" problem, which is not an accurate description of it anyway, is not that prominent in terms of fps heavy content creators than variety streamers.

>> No.32349694

>>32349628
both mindbroke nijisisters, nijisis. Numbersfags are celebrating their numbers since they both beat nijikeks at their own game. Was a pretty embrassing week for nijiEN

>> No.32349705

>>32348986
>they invest more in 3D and AR because of concerts and events where they need to use 3D
They keep saying this shit but, their 3Ds are inconsistent af! while cover has a visible improvement on their 3D. Niji's 3D are either good (holo level) like Aiba's or Tomoe's or really shitty like leos, kuzuha, or those power ranger wave girls

>> No.32349724

Why do people continue to question why EN girls collabs with the new boys? It's just like that since Tempus has no collab partners. Look at how IRyS and Council had to collab with IDs. Male collabs will be less frequent as more male gens get created.

>> No.32349736

>>32349557
>Gura and Reine don't collab every week now do they?
You seem to greatly overestimate the number of single POV male x female collabs in NijiEN.
The vast majority of these collabs are split POVs where the males get most of the viewers because their more popular and the girls either get their regular numbers or get slaughtered by overlap.

You still haven't answered the question. How is it different from when a much less popular vtuber hosts a more popular one, regardless of gender?
Someone like Pomu can host a collab with Ren/Aster/Kyo and not get the mythical "male" boost because they're less popular than she is.

>> No.32349755

>females are accessory to the boys
That just Holobronies's narrative to doompost NijiEN. Now that they have went too deep with it, they have no choice but to keep pretending its true because otherwise it means everything they said about NijiEN were wrong

>> No.32349779

>>32349602
>hat's because StarsJP is very unpopular and HoloJP is popular.
No. What I mean is not just collab between holo and stars. Roberu also had outside collabs too. The only constant here is more female collab = higher number
>If Tempus collabed with StarsJP, their numbers would be up too because they're more popular than StarsJP
Maybe but that is beside the point. I am talking about male and female dynamic here in my theory.

>> No.32349799

>>32349542
two to four days is the usual length for anime conventions. I think JP is fine. They have enough chuubas already.
EN and ID are lacking vtubers.

>> No.32349816
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>>32349214
Men and women in general don't enjoy the same content. Just like women typically will not watch a self insert anime harem, a man won't watch the Bachelor. This is how it almost always works for content. Unless your content is something with extremely generic and wide appeal you will end up with a lopsided gender ratio

Likewise, men are not as interested in watching male vtubers and women aren't as interested in watching female vtubers. These trends are not just scene in vtubing but in the anime industry in general. If a group of ikemen is the main focus you simply won't have a male audience. Hololive has this even MORE SO because a non negligible portion of their audience came to them because of their "don't interact with males" idol reputation.
With enough male collabs the holo girls will lose their current male fanbase. This DOES NOT MEAN their numbers will go down necessarily, it just means their audience will shift, as NIjiEN has already experienced. But that does not mean the girls would escape becoming accessories, because sisters aren't interested in watching girls otherwise.

>> No.32349825 [DELETED] 

>>32349214
>In reality, the decline of Nijigirls is more likely due to Hololive blowing up and being the de-facto group to watch for female vtubers
The Nijigirls reclined precisely because they were vulgar and had collabs with males

>> No.32349826

>>32349724
They are collabing with random e-celebs, too.

>> No.32349828
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32349828

Go die nijishill
Also Ayame ez 80k

>> No.32349839

>>32349736
Female Nijis are treated like accessories that's why the end up not getting numbers from collabs with men. It has nothing to do with their popularity at all.

>> No.32349859

>>32349779
>Why are Roberu's collabs with Mea and Haneru more popular than his collabs with other StarsJP?
Anon please. Most of StarsJP are 3views.

>> No.32349888

>>32349755
>females are accessory to the boys
Again. This is just a tongue in cheek way of explaining why females numbers are always lower in a mixed gender group. The real reason is probably way complicated than that, however we have solid data regarding generally lower ccv for females in a mixed gender vtuber groups to prove that this is the result, we just don't have a good explanation of why it is so.

>> No.32349896

Axel is going to stream APEX rankeds with RPR and Restia, opinion on his numbers?

>> No.32349899

Axel Rpr collab tomorrow

>> No.32349900

>axel is going to have an apex ranked collab with rpr and restia
who the fuck is restia?

>> No.32349911

>>32349561
>>32349690
so why none of you talk about my belmond example with him being buffed when he collab with more popular girls? why hajime isnt an acessory to mito, kaede and others when he does collab with them and his numbers get higher? im still waiting on a response on males who arent that popular getting bigger numbers just like in your example

>> No.32349914

>>32349755
Newfag, Niji girls being called accessories to men started in JP. Lurk more, moron.

>> No.32349923

>>32349859
>>32349779
his group of friends are well sorta big

>> No.32349932

>>32349896
>>32349899
>>32349900
Homo leechs in action kek

>> No.32349933

>>32349896
Just collab with towa

>> No.32349944
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32349944

Why are we having a civilized discussion at seahour?

>> No.32349949

>>32349690
Ange, Chigusa and ars in vspo? are you fucking retarded?
none of them have fps abilities to be in there

>> No.32349951

Mori play valo????

>> No.32349959

>>32349859
Yes, and the one that constantly collab with females can get out of 3view hell and get 4view on average of his stream.

>> No.32349966

>>32349900
>>32349899
>>32349896
towa.....

>> No.32349969

>>32349816
How much are you willing to bet that holo will still be more popular than kawaii in 5 years?

>> No.32349974

>>32349896
Shit number
Dude even lost to fucking Astel in the other day

>> No.32349976

>>32349932
Just like his senpai Towa, so smart.

>> No.32349980

>>32349896
How long until Axel collabs with Towa? I would like that more than her usual leeches

>> No.32349982

>>32349951
she's going to be completely useless

>> No.32349984

>>32349565
more like people might be reporting holo streams at higher rate
it's still not clear what yt will ban as far as asmr content. Aria's channel is back with all her asmr vod intact afaik. she's done new ones that i would consider to be lewd without further ban. so it's not just loli model + lewd asmr. they never explained the original ban.

>> No.32349985

jesas mori is literally going to play valorant just to collab with the homos lol

>> No.32349987

>>32349532
It's age restricted though
>>32349565
>>32349676
It's not a youtube thing, cover management is just really risk averse and doesn't want to tempt youtube

>> No.32349993

>>32349839
>Female Nijis are treated like accessories
This is what holobronies doesnt want to happen to HoloEN Girls, Look at Bae, its slow but show its impact on her CCV's. Ollie's case is too dratic the she must felt regret to it.

>> No.32350015

>>32349944
Just because you don't understand what is being discussed doesn't mean it is civil.

>> No.32350028

>>32349980
Vsaikyou

>> No.32350032

>Altare said valo collab with magni, ollie kobo and mori
kinda chuckle

>> No.32350042

>>32349932
kuzuha way

>> No.32350046

>>32349896
>>32349899
>>32349900
Kino. We can finally see Axel's power being unleashed. It's really a good thing Yagoo showed us bro tuber is the way to go.

>> No.32350062

>>32350015
Too many words, too sleepy too tired to read desu

>> No.32350067

>>32349980
when astel joins towa in the same team

>> No.32350072

>>32350032
>mori
Was actually good line up until her

>> No.32350088

>>32349896
300ms

>> No.32350091

>>32350032
I bet Ame will join.

>> No.32350100

>>32349825
>He says then when Ange has been keeping the same 11k for years
Nijigirls reclined because they're not as entertaining as Holos and the others were never popular to begin with

>> No.32350103

>>32350032
throw in bae as well

>> No.32350113

im still waiting for anyone to explain to me why belmond, kou, hajime, air, naruse and many less popular males who get better numbers when they collab with more popular female aren't accessories. why the less popular males getting in it like this are ignored? just to support a dumb narrative?

>> No.32350114

>>32350032
mori doin far, playin valo for the first time only to have a reason to collab with the boys lol

>> No.32350128

>>32350062
Eat more pagpag

>> No.32350134

>>32349911
I already said that you are looking at the conclusion instead of the reason behind it. Your boy Belmond is fucking boring and should be a 3view while Ars and Ange could probably get 5views without the boys. These are already their normalized numbers taking into account the buffs and debuffs.

>> No.32350139

>>32349736
The difference is that Gura and Reine don't collab every week, so Reine doesn't seem like an accessory when she mostly does her own streams without relying on gura carrying her.
Meanwhile you couldn't go a week without enna sucking dudes on stream for numbers.

>> No.32350142

>>32349545
>It's okay for Kobo to collab with ecelebs
>It's not okay for Ollie to collab with ecelebs
Why are indogs like this

>> No.32350157

Anyone tracked the VOD cull for all the Holo Rust finale?

>> No.32350162
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>> No.32350168

>>32350113
All of NijiID are an excuse to put COLLAB in the title.

>> No.32350172

>>32350142
different approach, ollie only doing once and never contact again

>> No.32350185

>>32350067
astel, matsuri, axel might be possible. towa... i don't know

>> No.32350186

Earth Defense Forces 6, a collaboration with Hololive, started off at the fastest pace in history with 300,000 units sold in first week.

> This record is the fastest time for the series to reach 300,000 units within a week since the release Earth Defend Forces in June 2003.

Ref https://www.mangasokuhou.com/?p=431413

>> No.32350205

>>32350142
Indogs hate Ollie.

>> No.32350219

>>32350185
If Axel suddenly gets super good Towa won't be able to help herself getting carried.

>> No.32350220

>>32350162
NO
go back to your watchhours cope

>> No.32350221

>>32350186
that collab is game feature

>> No.32350237

>>32349993
There's a proper way to go about girls collabing with men while maintaining their dignities intact as shown by Holo girls and Vspo.
Nijisanji management is just bad at it that's why their girls keep losing numbers every time they collab with the boys.

>> No.32350239

>>32350113
They can't explain it because they don't even know who those people are lol
They've only lived in the NijiEN world where all the boys are effortlessly more popular than the girls (except now Aster/Ren/Kyo might be less popular so we can have some more data).

>> No.32350240

>>32350134
That's all subjective as heck. What is boring for one isn't for another.
The point is that some male are popular, others aren't. Some female are popular, other female aren't.
The narrative for JP with the girls being acessories is dumb in the first place when Sanbaka, Mito and Salome are all in the top 10. Then you have Sasaki, Himawari, Hoshikawa, Ars and many female constantly promoted, in big events, on merchandise and it goes on

>> No.32350247

>>32350186

WTF

>> No.32350266

>>32350162
does it matters that they stream a lot when all the streams are garbage?

>> No.32350278

>>32350162
>there is an abundant amount of poop so you have to eat them instead of the food
Nijikeks please

>> No.32350289

>>32349896
aren't they part of Towa's clique?

>> No.32350288

>>32350185
Not gonna happened, you forgot they use Rank point system?

Astel - Master
Matsuri - Master
Towa - Diamond I

How's that gonna work?

>> No.32350304

>>32350240
You cannot explain why Himawari, Sasaki, Shiina are way worse performing than Kanae and Kuzuha.

>> No.32350324

>>32350128
What's pag pag?

>> No.32350343

>>32350289
Restia has also streamed with Astel so in reality they are just the APEX circle.

>> No.32350346

>>32350185
Axel could use ping issue to go down some points

>> No.32350349

>>32350237
The nijiJP girls act like literal street whores during collabs with the males
you think they have any shred of dignity left?

>> No.32350353

>>32350237
You are literally delusional. Management don't make collabs, the own vtubers do. Lize barely do any collabs with men, only with Mito, Sanbaka and very few female. Meanwhile other girls like to collab with other men.
Outside of this retarded point, the girls in Nijisanji are out there with merchandise all the time. Nijifes literally has Sasaki, Mito, Lize and Hoshikawa as female representatives alongside Axia, Fuwa and Kuzuha as the males

>> No.32350358
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>>32350162
>picking a "random" day
>including NijiEN males but not Tempus in the schedule
>still using the outdated watch hours chart
>spamming this image repeatedly
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/image/0nohJplgK_17Ju0zc8t7ag/

>> No.32350377

>>32350134
It's so convenient to assume there's an auto debuff for being a nijigirl.
Instead of "Here's a Nijigirl who is doing well in Niji despite collabing with males", it becomes "She could be even stronger but is hampered by male collabs".

Discussing hypotheticals with you is pointless.

>> No.32350381

>>32350100
Fubuki was among the greatest Holos, but today she is a shitter who is daily mogged by Pekora and other Holomems who stopped having collabs with males

>> No.32350389

As if they heard about my theories here, Kobo having another collab with Regis. I hope they constantly collab and within just a few months I can test out my theories using them.

>> No.32350396

>>32350162
pathetic beggar

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>>32350162

>> No.32350415

>>32350240
>The narrative for JP with the girls being acessories is dumb in the first place when Sanbaka, Mito and Salome are all in the top 10
You're a fuckin moron. Those girls on your list are performing well relatively precisely because they avoid male collabs the most.

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>>32350162

>> No.32350444

>>32350377
>Discussing hypotheticals with you is pointless.
We really don't have the data points that is not already muddied since ex gamers, so don't blame me for that.

>> No.32350455

So if HoloEN has SNOT and CHAD boxes, what do you call the Tempus-Kobo-Mori-Bea-Ollie box?

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>>32350358

>> No.32350499

>>32350455
Homobeggars box

>> No.32350511

>>32350455
Lean box

>> No.32350525

>>32350304
I can. They are less popular than Kanae and Kuzuha.
Sasaki and Shiina still are fairly popular. Only Hima really decline a lot, but she still is supported a lot even with that decline.
If you want a comparison of another gen where it was mixed and the girls are more popular, you have Sukoya and Ran-nee being more popular than Shellin. Or Naraka being more popular than Mashiro

>> No.32350531

>>32350091
>>32350103
It's a 5-player per team game.
I don't know what the fuck is Mori doing there though, I guess they needed someone to fill in.

>> No.32350542

>>32349545
she's annoying so nobody want to collab with her

>> No.32350544 [DELETED] 

>>32350455
Horsemen of Apocalypse

>> No.32350546

>>32350455

K MORBN

>> No.32350559

Nijikek please, just put out the watch hours chart and be done with it. Editting image just to say your livers are more hardworking is pathetic. There are literal 2views that is churning out content every day but I still won't watch them.

>> No.32350586

>>32347949
>has a chance to be popular
they can collab freely with huge fleshtubers with 0 backlash
so yeah, but i personally want idols. brotubers can be in gen2 or 3. StarsID gen 1 should be full singers with ex-utaites members

>> No.32350596

>>32350377
Anon, answer me this. Which of the Niji girls that are performing well and aren't Holo adjacents nor accessories to men?

>> No.32350599

>>32350455
KOMB

>> No.32350601

>>32350389
> I can test out my theories using them.
It's too unique of a case.
Kobokers already crowned Regis as their king because what he does to Kobo on stream is what they do to her through chat.
They want him to collab more with her because they self-insert as him and he draws out reactions from Kobo that they like.

>> No.32350608

>>32350531
she's the one who organized it probably

>> No.32350620

>>32350455
Tempus Last Hope box
Leeches Prime box
Unicorn Hunters box

>> No.32350632

>>32350455
>So if HoloEN has SNOT
SNOT became SNO, as Kronii treated Gura badly during HoloSummer and had collabs with Tempiss

>> No.32350631

>>32350559
Bah, I wouldn't even call spamming low effort content is hard working. Literally handcam/asmr/return/collab/celebration spam

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_vuPoYrYQ
Interesting thing no one seems to have noticed about this collab.
It's on Vesper's channel.
As per HoloJP practises, if someone organizes a single POV collab, the organizer (i.e. the person who invites everyone else) gets to host it on their channel - unless it's a regularly scheduled program, in which case it might rotate between channels.
If this collab was on Vesper's channel that means HE invited Bae and not the other way around. That means EN Homos don't have the JP homo restriction of "you can't invite holos".

>> No.32350652

>>32350455
Nobody care about Ollie and Bae, they're not part of the box since even tempus fans hate them. Throw in Kronii instead.

>> No.32350661

>>32350525
So why can you use the "less popular" argument when I can't? Anyway their numbers were comparable back in the days but the ARK arc siphoned all the viewers from the girls to the boys.

>> No.32350663

anyone else but mori..... ame/bae/zeta. please...

>> No.32350676

>>32350162
I give you a C+ for the effort, but uh... I hope you could make better use of your time and skills next time...

>> No.32350678

>>32350601
Kinda weird how ID viewers love Regis so much

>> No.32350716

>>32350638
>this collab was on Vesper's channel that means HE invited Bae
literally no proof retard

>> No.32350728

>>32350638
>As per HoloJP practises, if someone organizes a single POV collab
Vesper is from HoloStars, not Hololive.

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>> No.32350748

>>32350638
For someone who said that a content creator lives and dies by their solo content he sure collabs a lot.

>> No.32350759

>>32350114
I’m kinda surprised her viewers haven’t started questioning why she’s prioritizing the guys so much since the collab ban ended. Surely at this point she’s the only Holo that has done this many Stars collabs in such a short time.
Even the viewers that like the collabs must be wondering what’s going on.

>> No.32350763

Aside from Kobo and Zeta, has Kaela ever interacted with Tempus?

>> No.32350764

>>32350358
It makes me wonder. Did Nijibeggars being this annoying before Luxiem? I recall something along with them begging about the chemistry is better than HoloEN.

>> No.32350767

>>32350596
Performing well as in objectively (Getting 5k+ viewers) or relative to Holos?
Objectively, Sasaki, Shiina, Ars, Furen, and Nui are all doing well, collab with males sometimes/often, and aren't Holo adjacents.

>> No.32350772

>>32350678
Because the collab is fun anon. A lot of people hates Ollie but they love Ollie-Kobo dynamic, same with how people hate Mori but like Mori-Magni.

>> No.32350773

>>32350740
If your in EN3, you better take lesson to what happening right now

>> No.32350774

>>32350748
Seethe nijinig

>> No.32350779

>>32349944
It's still burger hours, check your timezones. Sea hours don't start for another 3 hours

>> No.32350785

>males will incline after collabing with females
Where did this come from or when did this start being the case? For the longest time HoloJP like fubuki collabing with holostar has done shit for their numbers. That's why people said using females collab to incline the boys just doesn't work

>> No.32350790

>>32350601
That is even better. Since Kobo's fans are very accepting towards a Regis collab, if her number falls solely due to the collab with Regis, it means that it is not just unicorn that is the problem. There is something inherent in a mixed gender collab that favours the male which I am excited to find out.

>> No.32350795

>>32350740
Cover HR intern here. I don't remember seeing any resume that have the word Rye on it

>> No.32350799

>>32350748
>doesn't disprove his point
what's wrong with that?

>> No.32350801

>>32350748
they're all a bunch of hypocrites except for Axel

>> No.32350806

>>32350774
Fuck off, i don't want it to become like nijisanji

>> No.32350817

>>32350763
yes, with magni on twitter once, it was about his thief stream

>> No.32350818

>>32350763
yes, in twitter and some tempus also send video to her at her birthday.

>> No.32350819

>>32350759
she hated collab with her female coworkers

>> No.32350830

>>32350790
Kobo has been collabing with stars for months now so you have plenty of data for that already.

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>>32350748
He still does solo streams 5 days a week, so what's the problem?

>> No.32350841

>>32350278
Kek

>> No.32350849

>>32350785
Homobeggars

>> No.32350852

>>32350678
Id viewers just typically likes stars in general in the first place because of risu and iofi. I mean i checked kobo's comment section when she collab with uproar and some of her viewers were actually praising stars and shitting on "the other company's male"

>> No.32350857

>>32350748
He also streams solo a lot, nijifriend.

>> No.32350858

I just realized Chloe will join season 3

>> No.32350873

>>32350638
>"you can't invite holos".
>>32350748
>For someone who said that a content creator lives and dies by their solo content he sure collabs a lot.

By now you all know that Vesper is just gaslighting people and that he is just a numbernigger like any other EN male vtubers.

>> No.32350877

>>32350790
Anon, the fact that her fanbase is almost entirely indogs already made your theory flawed
they have different culture and unicorns almost doesn't exist amongst indogs

>> No.32350887

>>32350748
attack him when he doin his zatsudan with VC open

>> No.32350894

>>32350678
They want someone to dunk on the brat, they actively revulse when she tries to be panderingly cute and laugh when she's a foulmouthed zoomer or gets bullied by a senpai.

It's almost as if they are more concerned with her ability to entertain rather than some idea of purity from a culture that's very dissimilar from their own

>> No.32350899

>>32350638
From day one it was clear that they are not respectful like StarsJP.
Altare is always interacting with the girls in chat and posting on Twitter that they play Apex offline

>> No.32350918

>>32350849
Unironically. Oboretai and Xanek, 2 of the biggest Homobeggar believe in that narrative

>> No.32350919

>>32350785
It's one retard with his stupid theory, why are you taking it as fact?

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Suggestion for the /#/ vs /vsj+/ hyp vid on sunday, just show how isegye is beating their asses in terms of CCV. I'd do it but im not good with editing.

>> No.32350952

>>32350858
imagine if Ayame joined Rust too

>> No.32350960

>>32350899
>Altare is always interacting with the girls in chat and posting on Twitter that they play Apex offline
Nice bald faced lie, fucker.
The only girl's chat he posts in is Kobo and he's only posted FPS tweets with Kobo and Ollie.

>> No.32350959

>>32350740
Rye will be another Bae in EN3 by collabing with males, mark my word

>> No.32350963

>>32350748
They are hypocrites just like Omegay

>> No.32350976

>>32350785
Fubuki technically did make Oga incline in the early days but that means shit now that there’s a 39k sub difference between him (166k) and his genmate Shien (205k)

>> No.32350977

>>32350767
Sasaki and Shiina are Holo adjacents
Furen and Nui don't regularly collab with men
Ars numbers dip down when she collabs with men
Let's be honest, Niji girls become accessories when they collab with men unlike Vspo and Holo girls. C'mon anon, at least watch their streams. It becomes apparent in big Apex tournaments.

>> No.32350980

Why are unicorns so prevalent in many East Asian countries like China, Korea and Japan?

>> No.32350981

>>32350764
They've always been this way, there's just more of them these days. Remember that post on space battles bragging about how nijiniggers were shilling their nijis in the hololive subreddit?

>> No.32350983

>>32350933
Creative freedom and show Kekson super3D reaction image

>> No.32350988

>>32350830
False, homobeggar. Kobo has only done 2 collabs with stars on her channel since her debut 6 months ago, and one of them is with Ollie. Those are just random occurrence for data collecting purposes. Now that she is doing it constantly we can see how it affects her channel.

>> No.32350995

>>32350960
He's also a mod in Millie's chat so there is that too.

>> No.32350997

>>32350678
>love regis
>so much
eh? he's too sleep inducing compared to Manca

>> No.32351008

>>32350858
/#/ told me HoloRust will die after season 2
>Kronii is joining
>Marine is joining
>Sakamata is joining
>Towa is joining
>Miko is staying
The only one quitting is Flare and it's nothingburger. Hololive will conquer this month again

>> No.32351011

>>32350952
>pekora found her avatar sleepin in her wood shack in wipe day

>> No.32351018

>>32350785
Stop giving one retard so much attention.
It gives the boys exposure, but incline is based off of solo content. It always has been.
The thread is excited about homo collabs because it MIGHT incline them and half of /#/ is /MANS/.

>> No.32351034

>>32350980
Too many poor/ugly males

>> No.32351059

>>32350877
Do you understand what I am trying to get to here? I am trying to prove that mixed gender collab will benefit male and detrimental to female regardless of any outside factor. JP side proved this, we can see it in ID and EN side this time around.

>> No.32351060

>>32350873
It's all good as long as he doesn't have a public meltdown like the top dog in NijiEN.

>> No.32351070

I like how the favorite narrative for the Tempus schizos is the "They are hypocrites" narrative.

>> No.32351086

>>32351011
lol this what pekora do in last rust stream, she destroys every member house who doesn't play much

>> No.32351100

>>32350977
Uhhh, how is Sasaki holo adjacent?

>> No.32351111

>>32350858
>rust season 3 arc
>holocure season 2 arc
>splatoon 3 arc
fun month

>> No.32351117

>>32350415
Those girls avoid male collabs the most? You mean Ange who drools over belmond? Mito who has collabs with Kenmochi all the time? pls anon
Only one who dont collab much with males is Lize.

>> No.32351118

>>32351059
You're never going to have enough data points to discount external factors.

>> No.32351122

>>32351008
With Kroni and Choco-sensei the Rust server will never be empty

>> No.32351131

>>32351008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwJsTUU_YU
Micomet+Peko Season 3 might be too lopsided to be honest.

>> No.32351133

>>32351059
>Will benefit male
>JP side
Where? When? And who ?

>> No.32351135

>>32351070
it's weird, they should just call them mediocre streamers because that's what they are

>> No.32351144
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>>32350790
there's a lot of other factor that affected the numbers
one of the factor was timezone
kobo's recent male collab was one of the example
kobo's gained 30k ccv during sea primetime, but only 13k after midnight

>> No.32351151

>>32351100
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

>> No.32351162

>>32350980
The same reason why their population is falling

>> No.32351179

>>32350960
He lives in Zeta's chat and is grooming her in Apex offline

>> No.32351195

>>32351131
Who the fuck can even go against them, Botan?

>> No.32351208

>>32351008
>pekora will play less but grind off stream only to wreak havoc on the last day

>> No.32351210

>>32351135
It's a whole lot more difficult to counter too since it's subjective instead of objective

>> No.32351212

>>32350801
>>32350963
>>32350873
NIjiseethe

>> No.32351225

>>32350980
They take a "the customer is always right" approach to content creators and they know what they want in their content

>> No.32351234

>>32350981
Oh fuck, I remember that one reddit post about Finana debut getting scuffed and someone decided to connect the dots with Holomyth debut scuff. It was so out of place and so forced, they probably thought Lazulight is from HoloEN.

>> No.32351235

>>32350785
1. Fubuki made the boy she collabed with inclined
2. Fubuki has jack shit number and she is one of the most interesting holo around.

>> No.32351239

>>32351195
Would be hype if Botan, Towa, Laplus joins the enemy team.

>> No.32351242

>>32350748
he never said that with the meaning that a streamer should focus 100% on solo content, what he ment by that is that is a streamer shouldnt see collabs as a way to increase your view numbers, but a way to learn from the other person on the collab and have fun, and you should grow your comunity with you solo content, but you prob dont watch his streams so you wouldnt know what he actually said

>> No.32351254

contextless theory schizo is our trending topic tonight eh? I preferred single mom 2view chuuba personally

>> No.32351274

>>32350977
Furen collab with Ibrahim al the time, Nui too. Ange collab with Belmond a lot.
Sasaki hasn't done a collab with a holo since 2020. Shiina hasn't done a collab with Okayu for a while and as an original, same as Toko, Suisei and Okayu were more niji adjacent than the contrary, even more in their first years.

>> No.32351277

>>32350977
>Sasaki, who is glued to Yashiro's hip, is a Holo adjacent
Ogey
>Ars numbers dip down when she collabs with men
Ars literally gets her best numbers collabing with male e-celebs like k4sen.
https://vrabi.net/video/wBxXM_vSV6w
https://vrabi.net/video/ovQb-8c3jq8
https://vrabi.net/video/S45JZI_4_nI
https://vrabi.net/video/RkZyuUbiOhA
https://vrabi.net/video/Vv30w3t9bLg

>> No.32351278

>>32351018
>half of /#/ is /MANS/.
You wish, sister. I would say most of mans are niji viewers too but I just don't want to embarrass you girls.

>> No.32351279

>>32350980
These countries have the highest average IQ in the world, so logically the unicorns would be the majority

>> No.32351287

>>32350638
Might very well be that Mating Press made the offer and they just decided to host it on Nowa's channel to keep hers "clean", as Kronii mentioned.
Didn't she collab on StarsJP channels too? What would be the difference in that case?

>> No.32351288

>>32351144
>31k sea primetime,
10/11pm is too late actually. try 8pm
different game too

>> No.32351291

>>32351254
God that was so good, and the groomed tranny was just the cherry on top.

>> No.32351302

>>32351242
Sad how people keep misinterpreting his quote. Threadreaders will be threadreaders I suppose.

>> No.32351310

Since stars are on topic at the moment, male indie chuuba duo slash ex-utaites MonsterZMate released three prerecorded collab videos with Aruran, Oga, Roberu, and Shien on their channel. Here’s some view numbers:
>Cream Puff Russian Roulette - 141,277 views (posted 10 days ago)
https://youtu.be/E7yBnmWHFNI
>Nchi Nchi Game - 88,092 views (posted 3 days ago)
https://youtu.be/HhgnP60Qx0w
>Talking about Chiikawa - 68,579 views (posted 20 hours ago)

>> No.32351311

>>32351239
>Laplus
She'd be fucking great in Rust but it'll never happen. Her fucking lore setup works perfectly with Rust it's such a shame she would rather court ecelebs

>> No.32351330

>>32350790
My theory is that girls are highly buffed by cgdct but when they interact with guys too often they lose that image and therefore the buff.
The people left that don’t care about cgdct are going to watch the better player which is almost always going to be the guy.

>> No.32351331

>>32351242
>but you prob dont watch his streams so you wouldnt know what he actually said
Fuck off, i watch him but i don't approve of him becoming the village bike in regards to hololive collabs.

>> No.32351340

>>32351287
Kronii would be the difference, thanks to the clock's call of attention she made a precedent.

>> No.32351342

>>32351277
omg i forgot sasaki does a lot of collabs with yashiro. you also forgot ars is close with Fuwa

>> No.32351378

>>32350032
Was okay till Mori. She doesn't even play fps

>> No.32351389

>>32350933
>Wrestling video
>Undertaker (/#/) dominates everyone montage
>Undertaker sees VShojo walks in
>Is just another prey

>> No.32351395

>>32351302
They just want to use his quote to dunk on Nijis and iLUNA in particular, when most of iLUNA's collabs are intra-branch, just like Tempus's ungodly collab spam.
Unintentionally making him look like a hypocrite, when he has been consistent all this time.

>> No.32351399

>>32350980
My theory is that it's not a cultural difference but holoJP has mostly adult male otaku fans while Kobo has a lot of underage normie fans.

>> No.32351419

>>32351311
Holox, gen4 and gen5 vs the senpais would be kino storyline though. Imagine the numbers

>> No.32351420

>>32351210
I mean this the numbers thread, so there are objective arguments to call them mediocre
they're not as bad as most of nijiEN but let's be honest, there's no one in Tempus who's exceptionally good

>> No.32351440

>>32351070
You mean the nijicope?

>> No.32351443

>>32351118
>>32351144
Ok, I will make this clear once again.
1. I am talking about in general, not when they are in a collab, i.e., with constant collabs between Regis and Kobo
a). Regis will eventually increase in his average ccv and floor
b). Kobo will eventually decrease in her average ccv and floor

We will not be seeing any result with just 1 or 2 stream, but we need to see the monthly average, and they have to have regular collabs for the data to mean anything, so this is stricter criteria than you thought.

>> No.32351446

>>32351419
Of course. I think it'd be amazing. But some of these girls just don't care.

>> No.32351460

>>32350983
I feel like that's too easy, they probably get hit with that on the daily. Something numbers related like that anon suggested sounds better.

>> No.32351464

>>32351212
I hate Tempiss and love Hololive. Unlike the homobeggar tourists

>> No.32351474

>>32351310
Forgot the link to the last video
https://youtu.be/ODOdVuuRgiU
Also, MZM’s recorded video collab views usually range anywhere from as low as 50k to as high as 250k+ depending on the guest but they’re low 3views when streaming

>> No.32351478

So did any of iluna get past 2k today?

>> No.32351492

>>32351070
>Magni picks streams he think will be interesting for his viewers
>LOOK AT THIS SCHEDULE. THERE'S NO WAY HE'S NOT A NUMBERFAG
Sorry he doesn't pick dogshit games like The Last Campfire and Live and live and filter out half his audience.

>> No.32351517

>>32351330
This might be the reason, but we need to prove that the "male debuff" or "female accesory" is true first before we can formulate the next hypothesis.

>> No.32351533

>>32351464
Then why do you type like a nijinigger?

>> No.32351538

>>32351420
Yes but the same can be said about some of the Hologirls and yet some anons say that is their appeal, for example I can't fucking watch Mumei's autism and yet other anons love that shit.

>> No.32351555

>>32351018
>and half of /#/ is /MANS/
Fuck you, homobeggar

>> No.32351577

>>32351492
>Sorry he doesn't pick dogshit games like The Last Campfire and Live and live and filter out half his audience.
During his interview with Uncle Nowa, he literally said that he will pick the shittiest options for streams. He is just gaslighting the viewers like Uncle Nowa.

>> No.32351586

>>32351555
NIjiseethe

>> No.32351591

>>32351399
>adult male
They struggle to meet their daily needs in a harsh society, especially if they are unmarried and 30 years old.

>> No.32351602

>>32351464
this, is it really so hard to believe that there are people here who love hololive but despise starsEN?
literally all they had to do was stay in their lane, but no they just HAD to start collabing with the girls every week

>> No.32351604

>>32351555
>>32351278
Cope bitches. /#/ was commentating throughout Vesper's collab today.
Like or not, you're the minority.

>> No.32351607

>>32351533
Why do you love males like Nijiniggers?

>> No.32351613

>>32351478
you know the answer anon don't pretend

>> No.32351624
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32351624

>>32351478
Nope.

>> No.32351628

>>32351478
None. Which is funny because people were specifically doomposting Tempus to be 1k shitters.

>> No.32351630

>>32351604
>Actual nijinigger behavior

>> No.32351632

>>32351577
For the first week, because he wanted people to come for him and not the games he plays. No where did he say he will pick shit games to get low numbers. Why do nijiniggers love being disingenuous so much.

>> No.32351631
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32351631

>>32350455
The Regis altare box
The most powerful man on vt

>> No.32351636

>>32351555
As much as you might want to deny it, we're here and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.32351645

>>32351443
english will filter most of Kobo's audience. it's not about the gender. management should let her collabing mostly with bahasa indonesia speakers, they are slowly killing her with frequent HoloEN and HomoEN collabs.

>> No.32351652
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32351652

Guys, is Polka GFE Holo?

>> No.32351655

>>32348255
> 1. Constant collabs between male and female will result in a net gain of viewers for males and net loss of viewers for female vtubers
> This theory is tried and tested in nijiJP
No you retard Fubuki, Suisei, several NijiJP male shitters and Shibuya fucking Hajime exist as a counter to that.
Collabs don't do anything other than introduce the Audience of talent #A to talent #B (where #A is the bigger talent).
If talent #B appeals to audience #A, they will get some additional numbers e.g. Kobo --> Regis.

Niji girls and Holo girls used to collab all the time back in 2019.
What happened then? The audience went towards those who entertained them more, which was Hololive. Hence the shutdown of a lot of JP Niji collabs, to stop this audience leakage from niji --> holo.
This eventually equalizes with enough "pair" collabs such that the audience doesn't flow one way or another. Resulting in consistent pairings like TokoMachi, Shiina-Okayu etc.

> Diluting the distinction between hololive EN and holostars EN will reduce the prestige of hololive brand overall
Hololive EN perhaps, HoloJP will remain unaffected. They have separate audiences with only minimal overlap. There's no reason to think the EN reputation will taint the JP branch, just like how NijiJP's reputation is fine despite all the retardation from NijiEN.

>> No.32351668

>>32351577
At least pretend to watch streams.
He said that for his debut week he wanted people to come to the streams to watch him, not the games.
It's been a fucking month and he's fully justified to pick games he thinks his viewers will like.

>> No.32351672

>>32351604
Because it has big numbers? /mans/ are acting like nijibeggars in that they will force their shitty ccv streams down the number thread just to promote their little shitters.

>> No.32351685

>>32351652
Maybe not the standard GFE, but she is certainly parasocial with her fanbase.

>> No.32351706

>>32351632
>>32351668
He didn't say that.

>> No.32351707

>>32351586
>>32351604
Discord and Leddit tourists will never be true Hololive fans. You are only here to turn HoloEN into Vwhorejo and NijiCN

>> No.32351708

>>32351630
>/#/ celebrating when Vesper beat Alban and kneeling to Yagoo for StarsEN
>Actual nijinigger behavior
At least be consistent, you mental midget

>> No.32351709

>>32351538
are you illiterate? when I say objective arguments I'm obviously talking about numbers
if Tempus can only get high numbers by collabing with the girls then they're obviously not very good at their job

>> No.32351722

>>32351631
it's uncle nowa anon

>> No.32351721

You guys do know that kobo's majority fanbase encourage her to collab with males right? The problem with males x females collab is that they always get overshadowed by their male counterpart. Take kobo for example, she didn't shy down and got overshadow by the male ecelebs yesterday.

>> No.32351727

>>32348908
counterpoint : man-loving Towa and Fubuki have better numbers than the man-hating Flare.

>> No.32351768

>>32351624
How did NijiEN recline so much? Not enough collabs to artificially inflate their numbers?

>> No.32351769
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32351769

>>32351631
lol

>> No.32351775

>>32351602
In /#/? Yes. Tempus has earned their spot here by utterly schooling iluna after nijiniggers boasted about their gen to the moon. You're free to go to the catalogue and make your own thread seething about tempus but don't come into numbers expecting this place to be /jp/

>> No.32351787

>>32351709
Ah with arguments you meant numbers, ok, i guess i was being illiterate.

>> No.32351794

>>32351727
And are destroyed by Pekora

>> No.32351812

>>32351706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eYcRYUXpc literally a 40k animated clip of it

>> No.32351827

>>32351652
This is why it's retarded to put something like GFE in such a tight box. Most of the JPs exhibit GFE to varrying degrees

Does Polka go Full Rushia and call chat her boyfriends and sell engagement rings? No. Does she pander hard to her gachikois and make her entire recent orisong about how much she loves her viewers in a parasocial way? Yes

>> No.32351863

>>32351768
NijiEN has always been this bad, nijiniggers just fooled you into thinking otherwise by focusing on the few streams that they get 10k while sweeping under the rug the endless streams of 1-2k streams

>> No.32351864

Vt has less people active than Reddit and Discord during dead hours, and yet people here act like vt somehow owns this industry. What a weird timeline

>> No.32351901

>>32351636
Your Discord has been raiding /vt/ for days now, but you will never be welcome here, homobeggar

>> No.32351927

>>32351864
Reddit and discord are also all faggots, which is a higher proportion that /vt/ which is only mostly full of faggots

>> No.32351937

>>32351901
Cope and seethe nijinig

>> No.32351940

>>32351827
Hot take, well, maybe not so hot. GFE is retarded and meaningless term because every female will attract certain amount of males to some degree and will tell you she's their GFE.

>> No.32351948

>>32351721
>kobo's majority fanbase encourage her to collab with males right?
no. just indonesian youtubers

>> No.32351949

>>32350162
Who has the time to watch all that?
just to understand their jokes when you click on a random stream?
It's all sludge, like a content factory churning out "streams" with no regard for being entertaining or having any form of structure or vibe.
Only consoomers would like NijiEN, not people with life obligations, who like a selection of more curated content that Hololive provides.

>> No.32351950

>>32351864
>Reddit
This is not true. /#/ alone gets more posts in like 3 days than /r/hololive gets in an entire day
>discord
maybe but only because they are unironic schizos who need to organize raids 24/7

>> No.32351959

>>32351901
Why are you nijiniggers so scared of Tempus?

>> No.32351981

>>32351950
fuck i meant /#/ gets more posts in three threads

>> No.32351982

>>32351937
Dilate, homobeggar

>> No.32351986

>>32350142
Ollie shat on her local fanbase, back when she thought that ID market is non existent won't ever be sustainable. Big mistake.

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>>32351234
is that the only one you remember?
here let me refresh your memory.

>> No.32351994

>>32351604
>minority cope
Don't push it, you're basically in Pekora's split

>> No.32351997

https://youtu.be/Qwk5z1VbXIw
>Comment full of Russian, Romanian, Spanish, German.
HoloEU onegai

>> No.32351996

>>32351812
>great number compare the rest video animation
they will do more hololive related animation

>> No.32352004

>>32350608
Nah, I could see Ollie being the one to organize, or Kobo since it's Valo.

>> No.32352015

>>32351950
And reddit gets thousands of up votes every day while numbers get 1-2k a day at best, what's your point?

>> No.32352041

>>32351959
Normies want to use Tempiss as a tool to turn HoloEN into NijiCN

>> No.32352066

>>32351287
Bae has had One of the Roberu collabs in her channel (split Pov though).

>> No.32352082

>>32351997
Numa numa is unironically EU the song so yeah that makes sense.

>> No.32352085

>>32350678
Kobo is the ID version of Pekora, adjusted to their cultural sensibilities

>> No.32352086

>>32352015
Anon we have just went through 500 comments in 2 hours, and we're just one genera;.

>> No.32352098

>>32351901
>>32351950
I'm starting to suspect that these nijiniggers are acting like complete retards to discredit the idea of discord raids so it gets met with mockery whenever it's brought up

>> No.32352107

>>32350455
The mythical NijiEN box

>> No.32352129

>>32350142
western fans dislike western e-celebs (trash taste)
ollie collabed with edho zell (indonesian e-celebs) just fine

>> No.32352147

>>32352066
Roberu also has a Bae collab on his channel, the one where he ate vegemite.(7.5k)
https://vrabi.net/video/YFbaW7z255A

>> No.32352148

>>32351997
It's fucking kobo of all people... how strong is this girl

>> No.32352157

>>32351988
NijiKeks always wants their NijiCN to be injected on every holo conversation
>KEK

>> No.32352170

>>32352086
Made by 90-150 people, and that's assuming every single ip is a new person. That's barely the population of a single low pop reddit post

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>>32352015
>upvotes mattering at all
Anon the literal talents can't even get 10k.

>> No.32352181

>>32350455
TOMB
removing Kobo since her audience is separate

>> No.32352188

>>32352015
>1-2k
Anon? This is numbers. We get that much just timelooping Kronni male collabs. We burn through threads if there's an event

>> No.32352234

>>32352188
Look at IPs, not posts.
There's not that many people here, people just spam/shitpost/argue about stupid shit.

>> No.32352239

>>32348955
Nah. She is too busy playing LoL [spoilers] taking care of her loved ones [/spoiler] to get updated with the current meta.

>> No.32352257

>>32352098
>if you don't like HomoStars you are a Nijinigger
Nice demoralization tactic, discord sister

>> No.32352269

>>32352239
literally just ctrl+s you tourist

>> No.32352282

>>32352170
>Made by 90-150 people
The golden rules is of 4chins is that they are at least 10x more lurkers than active users minimum. In /vt/'s case I would there must be shitload of lurkers around here.

>> No.32352293

>>32352175
And that's like seven times more people than post in these threads, what's your point?

>> No.32352312

>>32352234
That's not the point though. Regardless of this place being samefag central it still remains the most active centralized place to discuss vtubers in the west. Of course that will it some degree of weight

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>>32351775
Nah, fuck off, both NijiEN and HomoEN have garbage numbers, they both deserve to be made fun of

>> No.32352332

>>32351604
Choke on it, beggar. I both watch and subbed to Vesper an id STILL vote to reinforce the status quo of NO MALES for everyone in HoloEN bar Mori and Bae. Kronii accepting that collab and her e suing actions were dumb errors on her part.

>> No.32352334

Subaru
>34k
How is she still maintaining it and inclining on top of it? Will P5 give her 40k average numbers on her weekend jrpgs?

>> No.32352350

>>32351602
>love hololive
specify
HoloEN is not HoloJP

>> No.32352362

>>32352293
But not 7 times more the activity which is what the original poster claimed

>> No.32352364

What's with the sudden collab beggar posting after Kobo broke 30k yesterday? Do you think that stars will get a funnel from Kobo fans?
Not a chance. The ones who will become stars fans are the ones who were already integrated as Holofans before Kobo debuted.
If you want your male oshi to get a serious funnel from Kobo, tell him to learn Indonesian and its culture. As long as he keeps talking in English all the funnels from Kobo will vanish within a month.

>> No.32352371

>ID and EN has 1 homobeggar in every gen
Remember this when EN3 come, so we can speculate which one is it

>> No.32352390

>>32352282
Funnily enough thats not a 4chan rule but a general internet rule, there's always significantly more lurkers than active participants in any online community, so that equally applies to twitter and reddit as well

>> No.32352401

>>32351722
>>32351769
See ? He makes everyone seethe truly the most powerful man on vt
Also im literally regis altare

>> No.32352421

>>32351775
>>32352350
Go back, homobeggar

>> No.32352431

>>32352312
>discuss
Because there's nothing to really discuss about vtubers outside of live commentating on the stream, drama, stupid bait discussions in the catalog, and numbers.

Have you tried using reddit for any of these topics? It's awful.
Try going on reddit and starting a discussion about which Hololive talent you wish you could've stopped from graduating or which ones you would Fuck, Marry, Kill.

>> No.32352440

>>32352362
>Up votes don't count as activity because they just don't, alright?

>> No.32352443

>>32352401
Stop streaming at 7am PST it's fucking up your average fucker.

>> No.32352453

>>32351604
Hey we tend to do that only because there's no other EN streams when he's streaming.
If there's something interesting going on in JP, we would talk about that instead.
And Nowa liveposting has slowed down quite a bit in recent days.

>> No.32352476

>>32352390
Holo Reddit has like 4-5k active members at any given time, while the lurkers would turn up the numbers to around 7-8k. That’s more than the total combined posters of the whole vt alone

>> No.32352479

Imagine if Ren was in Tempus. A homobegger and a unity beggar in the flesh

>> No.32352483

>>32352421
NIjiseethe

>> No.32352499

>>32352431
Reddit and twitter are terrible places for discussion. That's why imageboards and forums will never be removed completely

>> No.32352501

>>32352371
If it's Rye (ahahahahah) then it could be she takes a similar approach to ID3 and Bae and state she's fine with male collabs from the start. She could also opt to not. Hell, even Gura before Gura has done collabs with dudes, but has completely shut down ANY outside collabs since she's joined Hololive.
It's all about being upfront with your actions and setting the correct expections to match.

>> No.32352506

>>32351794
because she's more entertaining

>> No.32352514

>>32352483
Homo dilate

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>>32352483
>nijiseethe
This is the standard homofag response.

>> No.32352530

>>32352334
Honestly as someone who has p4 as one of my favorite games, i get it. Her reactions are just super enjoyable

Also she's doing some of the really big group events today which have a lot of the games funniest moments

>Will P5 give her 40k average numbers on her weekend jrpgs?
This I have no clue because I don't know how the perception between p4 and p5 compares in japan. One thing that's important is p4 was way more shilled after its release and had a lot better legs in japan than p5 did. A big part of that is that the p4 anime was pretty successful but the p5 anime completely flopped. I have no idea which one would do better because of those factors

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>>32352479
Yes, don't you stars sisters want a musician for StarsEN2?

>> No.32352546

>>32352085
No, she's more like ID Kuzuha. When she only plays 1 game most of the time (Valorant) and she is a ccv black hole when collab

>> No.32352554

>>32352390
lurkers will not be exposed by upvoting, hence the lurking share of the population would be reflected in the number of upboats.

>> No.32352557

>>32352529
Imagine the Mori and Ren song collab

>> No.32352562

>>32351794
Unless Flare and Lamy gets pekora numbers too your argument holds no water

>> No.32352589

>>32352401
just spam collabs with Kobo and you'll get to 200k subs in no time!
can't guarantee that you'll stop being a 2k ccv shitter though

>> No.32352598

>>32352364
>I don't think homo collabs really hurt the girls that bad and they're getting pretty good numbers
>I don't mind them as long as they're not the main content of the girl's channel
>What's with the sudden collab beggar posting?
This is what you guys sound like right now. People talking about homo numbers doesn't mean their homobeggars either.

>> No.32352603

>>32352421
> calling JP watchers homobeggars
nijiseethe indeed

>> No.32352604

>>32352527
They want to turn Hololive into Nijizhanji and still call us Nijiniggers. Homobeggars are a plague

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>>32352527
>using pekora to defend nijiniggers
How cute

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32352627

>>32352479
> imagine

>> No.32352644

>>32352530
The story of p5 is shit compared to p4 and the waifus get downgraded. I bet she would get less viewers

>> No.32352650

>>32352604
>>32352608
Duality of /#/

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>>32352608
>>32352627

>> No.32352667

>>32352562
Lamy is the queen of aka supas. My point is valid

>> No.32352677

>>32352530
That's interesting af. So anime is a big factor to it's success? How does P3 fare then since it has its movies, plus it has genwunner fan effect

>> No.32352679

>>32352479
>Imagine

>THE ULTIMATE MEGA FINAL NIJICOPE

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>>32352608
>>32352627

>> No.32352720

>>32352608
>using pekora to defend HomoStars
How cute

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>>32352687

>> No.32352739
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>>32352608
>>32352627
>>32352657
>>32352687
>>32352723

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>> No.32352770

>>32352603
Then stop defending Homos

>> No.32352780

>>32352748
Welcome to sea hours bro

>> No.32352784

>>32352530
P5 as a game is better than p4, but as a VIEWING EXPERIENCE, p4g is better than p5 royal. Like I can cleanly recall most of p4's plot, but p5 just melts into 'SOCIETY' in my head, though I do remember enjoying the smoothness of p5r's combat over p4g.

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32352807

funny thread?

>> No.32352830

>>32352770
Not your hive mind, seethe about it

>> No.32352837

Ah... Sea hrs at last. It was a fun and heated discussion

>> No.32352841

>>32352807
Not so funny.
Am looking forward to see which 8 gals Gura managed to wrangle into her stream though.

>> No.32352861

>>32347511
The males are the actual seiso idols. They are keeping Yagoo's dreams alive.

>> No.32352866

>>32352770
NIjiseethe

>> No.32352872

>>32352807
been a while funny poster.

>> No.32352876

>>32352830
Not your discord, dilate about it

>> No.32352879

>>32352861
>Yagoo's dreams
Nice meme fellow redditor

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32352897

>>32352739
>>32352608
>>32352627
>>32352657
>>32352687
>>32352723

>> No.32352899

>>32352644
>p4
>good story
RORU, RUMAO even

>> No.32352929

>>32352866
Homodilate

>> No.32352940
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32352940

Posting Suisex as an offering to the numbergods for good numbers later

>> No.32352949

>>32352899
Still has a better story than persona 5

>> No.32352959

>>32352861
Does YAGOO dream of transforming Hololive into Nijizhanji?

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32352988

>>32352940

>> No.32352990

>>32352959
He loves them so no

>> No.32352991

Is it just me or do the NijiEN girls seem to have more and better quality doujins than the Holo's

>> No.32353005

So which will get the gold today? Off collab, 3D live or Botan's outfit?

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>>32352988

>> No.32353047

>>32352991
>NijiEN girls
>Doujins

>> No.32353056

>>32353005
Ayame

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>>32353005
Ojou 100%

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>>32353029

>> No.32353070

>>32353005
no one

>> No.32353071

Cope more, can't wait for the males to surpass the girls. Reminder that males are always superior and girls should always stay in the kitchen.

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https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1565883088902963201
Yagoo is a fashion model again

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>>32353071
You can wait forever anon, no one is stopping you

>> No.32353184

>>32352991
>nijiEN can't even get good quality models for koikatsu
rumao

>> No.32353199

>>32353071
You didn't need to tell us that you were gay.

>> No.32353201

>>32352677
P3's movies were received well, unlike p5's anime, but it was still released as a series of multiple movies released over years. It inherently filtered people with its distribution alone. P4 on the other released as a normal anime during a typical season. You could reasonably know nothing about persona but still watch it as a secondary because you watch seasonals.

Old fags of course exist in JP too but there's a lot less of them because japan doesn't really do emulation. Also while the p3 girls are still pretty good p4 really refined the harem side of the game and its girls are all much more popular

>> No.32353210

noels original is uhhh. oof

>> No.32353232

I just realized something- NijiEN might have been actually created for Niji to have a 'CN' that they can control, since Virtuareal was taken over by Bilibili itself. Legally the chinks own 50% of every non-Chinese thing operating in China but by having a technically 'american' branch which just happens to make chinese chicks wet their panties, Niji can capitalize on the Chinese market without having to share it with the Chinese government.

>> No.32353234

>>32353210
Slowchama

>> No.32353238

>>32353210
We've agreed to not talk about it

>> No.32353237

I'm getting confused right now. Isn't holofags the one who are against males collab? I thought nijinigger joined force with homobeggar supporting nijification of hololive but i see people who are against males collab get called nijinigger

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>>32352443
>>32352589
Good idea! i appreciate your feedbacks anon *plays kazoo*

>> No.32353262

>>32352899
Anon, p5 story is stupid as shit. Stealing hearts to make adults confess their crime is dumb and the pancakes plot twist is stupid.

>> No.32353287

>>32353237
>I thought nijinigger joined force with homobeggar supporting nijification of hololive
Jesse what are you talking about?

>> No.32353290

>>32353201
What went wrong with the p5 anime?

>> No.32353306

>>32353071
Not even all your Homos together can compete with Gura

>> No.32353311

>>32353237
It's a single schizo who thinks insulting anything holopro = nijifag
Yes it's annoying as fuck

>> No.32353320

>>32353237
Nijiniggers use begging for male collabs as an excuse to shit on male discussion because they hate getting reminder that they are mogging their entire branch

>> No.32353322

>>32353237
>What is falseflagging or shitposting?

>> No.32353361

>>32353237
Discord tourists want to manipulate us into supporting HomoStars

>> No.32353389

>>32353237
Tempusfags are a branch of HoloENfags.
It's cut from the same cloth, hence why there's a bit of funnel between them.
Not every holofag is against homo collabs.

>> No.32353397

>>32352991
>NijiEN doujins
>plural
what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.32353399

>>32353290
shit adaptation and shit animation
just play the game at that point
but the valentine's day OVA is passable and sex

>> No.32353417

>>32353237
Why would nijinigger defend stars unironically when en stars keep mogging their latest branch

>> No.32353436

>>32353361
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a discord tourist
You should join forces with the seething 2view, he also thinks everyone who supports hololive is a paid shill

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>>32352991
I know this is bait, but I was curious and decided to check...
and well... it's kinda grim...

>> No.32353456

>>32353389
>Not every holofag is against homo collabs
No holofag wants collabs with males, only Discord normies and Vshojofags

>> No.32353500

>>32353436
HomoStars are not Hololive

>> No.32353501

>>32352949
>>32353262
ah yeah, this is the same exact thing happen with p3/p4 before p5 release. p3 is the GOAT while p4 story is shit. now that p5 is the "normies game" everyones suddenly starts praising p4. i bet my balls when p6 release and becomes the biggest persona game ever you guys would praise p5 to the moon too. rinse and repeat, typical hipster.

>> No.32353507

>>32353453
Wow even moona have a doujin there

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>>32353071
>can't wait

>> No.32353518

>>32353456
Keep living in your bubble, retard. Maybe read some comments on holo streams for a change.

>> No.32353533

>>32353453
>Nina kosaka
LOL LMAO

>> No.32353538

>>32353290
It's a complete waste of time that adds nothing to the experience of playing the game, which already had a weak story, and it also has terrible animation
this clip making fun of the animation did numbers while it was airing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUEXayVjo4 but you can find a shit ton of anime youtubers riffing on it if you look

P4's plot in general just works way better as anime. It's much more character focused and has a ton of slice of life friendship simulator moments which the anime elevated

>> No.32353552

>>32353456
>everyone who doesn't agree with me are discord normies and vshojofags
I think this guy really buys into the idea that /vt/ is his personal hive mind.

>> No.32353553

>>32353237
>Isn't holofags the one who are against males collab?
maybe lurk more before you start throwing bait.

>> No.32353557

>>32350638
Unicucks are seething, huh? And Nijilarpers are joining in.
Why are you mad if Vesper invited Bae? The stream idea is actually GREAT, and the stream actually delivered. And we know HomoEN actually have brains not to collab with HoloEN if not invited first.
>Muh Vesper solo content
Idiots. Total idiots you are. Vesper clearly implies that having solo content develops a fanbase, which is what he is constantly doing. And this collab is obviously not designed to develop a fanbade but to provide variety.

>> No.32353560

>>32353290
You could probably mesh the cinematics from the game alone and get a better result than that anime.

>> No.32353578

>>32353389
Go away tempusniggers. You're not exactly helping win the fight against nijiniggers and we can mock iLuna whether or not you fags exist. You have no purpose in the grand number war other than to be midgets.

>> No.32353632

>>32353501
Almost no one says p4 has a better story than p3 anon. Most people agree it still is the goat persona in terms of story
Persona 5 just has a shittier story with retarded moments which makes p4's story look better by comparison

>> No.32353651

>>32353500
reading comprehension is tough when you gotta translate isn't it?

>> No.32353718

>>32350852
>and shitting on "the other company's male"
I wonder who that is kek

>> No.32353730

>32353578
not gonna start holo v holo for you, try another bait

>> No.32353740

>>32353651
Maybe because every Homo anti I've seen on a Holo stream is some saliva-drooling retard that puts "HOLOSTARS ARE LEECHES" in their names and "I HATE HOLOSTARS" in their profiles, I just picture all these anons the same way.

>> No.32353794

>>32353518
Yeah, the homobeggars are very vocal in the comments section. That's one of the reasons they are hated

>> No.32353820

>>32353453
Even after millie and enna(?)'s bait for fanarts with their lesbian kissing twitter banner and finana's gfe asmr is not enough. Kek what are they doing wrong?

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>>32353507
Moona has as many doujins (3) as the first 4 waves of NijiEN put together (3).
> but NijiEN have 3 Pomu + 2 Finana, and Moona only has 4
Moona has -1 because one of hers is a reupload.
Pomu and Finana share one doujin since it features both of them (-1).
Another -1 for Finana because her only solo doujin was also translated into Chinese.

>> No.32353825

>>32353730
Your homos aren't holos. This isn't holo vs holo. You gotta understand you "holopro" fags are a minority.

>> No.32353828

>>32353632
P5's message is also significantly more muddled because it deals with real world issues like societal injustice and power abuse and tries to sell it like making connections and friends is how you overcome that, but what actually happens is that it relies on you having magic mind changing powers to solve those issues, so it just ends up being a naked power fantasy where the only thing standing between you and solving all the world's problems is you not having magic mind control powers

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>>32353557
>seething

>> No.32353855

>>32352501
>even Gura before Gura has done collabs with dudes
i might get called homobeggar for this but Gura seems doesnt mind with interacting/collabing with males, it just she's afraid of chumbuds. Gura has mentioned or acknowledged starsJP before. chumbuds may think she's perfect idol/GFE or blablabla, but i think Gura simply want to protect herself and the boys (from being dogpiled). also avoiding drama, she's aware what she did might have affect & she treaded carefully.

>> No.32353883

>>32353820
not cute girl = no doujin

>> No.32353911

>>32353855
>i might get called homobeggar for this
You are completely right, and the fact you went ahead and posted this knowing fully well how it comes across is pathetic.

>> No.32353916

>>32353825
You keep saying that but the entire thread was fine discussing homos until you two woke up and started raging that the numbers thread dares to discuss males favourably. Stop pretending you're the majority here, you're just loud and autistic

>> No.32353921

>>32353552
Since the day of Kronii's collab discordfags invades every discussion about Hololive to talk about Homos. So in my point of view every homobeggar is a discordfag

>> No.32353940

>>32353820
>bait for fanarts
/u/ isnt the strongest fanart bait.

>> No.32353951

>>32353855
And she would be correct in thinking so, she already has an example of what would happen too, Kronii, just much worse which is why i hate collabegars with a passion, they clearly can't read the atmosphere.

>> No.32353956

>>32353855
Oh eat a bag of dicks, you don't watch Gura.
And I don't understand this retarded "well the roommate talked to males before". Yeah bitch, the roommates do that daily, males are half of the population. The point most people want is:
1)no male content creator collabs
2)no boyfriends
Your strawman unicorn waifu that has never spoken to a man ever is something even a minority of unicorns (which are huge schizos) are schizo enough to expect.

>> No.32353982

>>32353921
catalogue tourist go away - now I definitely know you haven't been here a month

>> No.32353991

>>32353740
If HomoStars didn't need to parasitize HoloEN to grow nobody would call them leechs

>> No.32353993

>>32353916
>w-we run this city
Pathetic, homofag. Especially since you insist I'm in the only one doing it, but keep feeding your delusions.

>> No.32354027

>>32353855
The only time she's "mentioned" starsJP is repeating the cafeteria meme.
The only time she's "acknowledged" them is when Cover literally forced them on the screen at a con, literally management mandated. This isn't some woman that randomly brought up homos or talked about them, and she does that A LOT to pretty much all the JP holos.

>> No.32354049

>>32353982
Homoseethe

>> No.32354066

>>32353993
If you honestly believe it isn't obvious it's just the two of you posting on cool down you might want to get a doctor to look at your brain.

>> No.32354099

Is Live a Live the biggest debuff that ever hit HoloEN? Why the fuck does Mori not have at least a 3k core?

>> No.32354114

>>32354099
Isn't it midnight in PST?

>> No.32354119

>>32353538
>smash’s animation is actually better than the anime’s
What fucking low budget studio did atlus pay to animate their anime , jesus fucking christ

>> No.32354130

>>32354066
Oh now its two of us. Nice. And how many do you think there are of you? This thread is dead, and it seems to me you're the only homofag still ticking.

>> No.32354154

>>32354099
Because she keeps jumping her timezone all over the place so she has a core audience of fuck all.

>> No.32354216

>>32354130
If you read my original post I've always said it was two of you, and considering the thread discussed vespers two streams perfectly fine I'd say there's alot more tha two of you

>> No.32354229

Lamy is graduating...

>> No.32354231

>>32354130
Homofags want to be treated equally, but act like Twitter troons

>> No.32354241

>>32354229
/#/s is graduating too...

>> No.32354288

>>32354241
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1565963478229458944
Not like this...

>> No.32354297

>>32354099
People would legit rather watch her read SCs than play this game

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damn vox numberroted brain really take a toll on him huh.
i hope he didnt kill himself if in future there's male chuuba who spam runescape getting 10x times better number than him.

>> No.32354320

Just finished watching the project zomboid collab. Are the unicorns still seething?

>> No.32354323

>>32354216
It is natural that you have many homobeggars /here/. This place has been raided for weeks to protect Kronii's honor

>> No.32354335

>>32354231
It's funny to watch you homoantis seethe over fucking nothing

>> No.32354365

>>32354320
Finished dilating?

>> No.32354381

>>32354320
yep, on cooldown

>> No.32354383

>>32354305
Honestly it's weird how he cares about other numbers in the first place when he got a lot of sc in anything he does anyways. Is it ego?

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