/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Altare just keeps winning

>>32289291
Hahahahha I fucking knew Indonesians are as crazy as Burgerpeople

>>32289291
Translate ID Bros

>>32289291
no one cares cuz her general is cuckland.
it taught me how the OG homobeggars were indos

haha
NO ONE likes tempussharts

>>32289291
Based indochads
Graduate all of tempiss and the whores who collabed with them

>>32289739
>>32289785
magni is okay. axel too. actually, noir is also calm. altare is the real problem for everyone.

>>32289926
problem for the insecure maybe

>>32289926
problem for introvert like u

>>32289291
Jp = full idol
ID = full cuck
EN = half idol, half cuck

>>32289926
No they really aren't okay. Magni is fucking annoying and his fans are the worst around, Noir is a fake and probably the one driving the leeching. Axel is australian so I never even gave him a shot.

>>32289926
>Altare
Why are unicorns so scared of the Korean blue boi? Are they that insecure to be intimidated by a fucking Korean of all people? The race with the smallest penis?

>>32290331
He talks like a groomer and won't stay in his lane

>>32289291

any Seasters want to translate?

>>32290331
Go search “I’M SO CLOSE COME ON BABY” in the archive and you will see why

>>32290389
You are riding in his lane
Stay mad that you can’t keep up versus rooftop Korean

>>32290394
the gist of it is just
>i've already chased out gachikoi so i hope they're not here anymore
>this is just a disclaimer but i hope you guys won't harass the stars if i collab with them

Ame time travel and saw the future she returned and gave you the advice to improve yourself instead of heeding her words of wisdom you all turned into a mob of schizophrenic turds and called her a whore. Now your oshi are all gushing for
blue hair korean manlet
Bisexual cosplaying tranny
An australian retard name axel
And a 40 year old man who loves bikes and tea.

Time traveler ame strikes again.

>>32290478
homoleechess are unwelcome outside of their channels and they will learn

>>32290871
You aren't doing shit. They will continue to collab with girls under yagoo blessing and there's nothing you can do about that but to stop giving them money and cry yourself to sleep.

>>32290811

Rio does cosplay?

I just want to let you know, well it's nothing but just a disclaimer :

If I do a collab with, well anyone really, be it female or male, please appreciate my collab partner yeah, don't make trouble this and that, well you know the rules.

And I hope that you guys that... well I believe there's no gachikoi, I believe I don't have any gachikois or like you guys never imagine things (parasocial relationships) with me right? Hahahaha, right?

I'm just afraid that maybe there are people who don't like when I'm with Regis like what the hell just unsub then, right? And I hope things are like that too on Regis's side. Like eh... generally speaking I have a lot of male fans and male Vtubers have a lot of female fans.

I hope that there won't be... If I collab with Holostars again, well I've done that and with Ollie too, ehh... well collabing with Holostars or other male Vtubers, nost just in Hololive and Holostars, I hope that you guys can just be alright okay? Hehehe... and I also hope that the fans of my collab partners will also be fine with it

I'm afraid, well actually, why should I be afraid, I don't have to be afraid, but gachikois are scary. Kobo doesn't want it okay? Kobo isn't girlfriend-able, I don't want to build a fanbase with gachikois, I shooed them away, bye-bye gachikois.

[SB : BO, COLLAB WITH MYLIHYA, YOU BOTH LOVES TO SCREAM wkwkwkwk]

Well amen to that

What is Gachikoi? Well as far as I know it's fans that loves their idols so much that it's unhealthy. Ehh... CMIIW

"Gachikoi's love is real"

Huh they're actually in love? Even though we as a vtuber, as a talent, is also-

[SB : People who had a crush on you already waved their white flags with your ideal boy criterias]

Nonono don't be like that, but I mean, we as talents don't know who you are behind the screen and you don't know the actual us so if you're actually in love... like... I don't know... no comment for that

[SB : Calm Bo, we just want to see you riot with Regus/Holostars]

Ok thank you. Yeah... well, that was my thoughts about it. If I... well if there are people who don't like collabs with different genders, like girls and boys, and OH YEAH...

You guys also please don't randomly ship people, I've told you guys, please don't randomly ship like do one collab and then immediately goes "I'm soooo shipping this with this" please don't, please don't. You're like an elementary school children, you sit at the same table with someone else and your friend goes "Cieee cieee" (teasing couples) haha

Nah, don't be like that, we cool okay guys? we cool.

4:12 to 4:55 is unrelated

Now where was I, I forgot

Well I'm just worried that when I do collabs with someone with different gender, I just think that well, there's always people like that BUT Kobokers and Cebokers won't be like that right? You guys are normal right? Normal as in none of you guys are actually in love with me and actually wants to marry with me right? Hheehehe

Man now I'm scared lol

>>32290993
indogs are based, not like fcking booorgars

>>32290993
>other male Vtubers, nost just in Hololive and Holostar

Vox collab incoming?

>>32290993
How is she this based?
Am I going to have to learn Indonesian?

>>32290993
lmao anon he actually translated this
This was before the Valo collab, for context, and her fans actually listened to her. IDs in Regis' chat are very friendly to him.

Just one question: should I trust the nest or the farm?

>>32291232
Bobby and Frogzeko

>>32290993
Now this is based

>>32290993
At this point, you're a God damn retard if you unicorn Kobo. She's basically the most "normie" out of the holos and I'm pretty sure she's actively made fun of incels.

>>32290993
Thanks ID bro

>>32289621
>as crazy
SEAdudes are literally schizophrenic. Their nations in particular have gold medals when it comes to mental illness.

>>32290993
Kek, Kronii would never

>>32290993
This is much better than Kronii's deranged ramblings and Kobo never did any gfe pandering

>>32289291
she already made almost everyone aware of her stance beforehand
so it's based, those that didn't like it left long and was already giving all the warning signs
unlike kroni

>>32290993
YESSSS SHE LOVES OUR HOMOS, LET'S CONTINUE TO BEG BEG BEG!

>>32291461
Of course it's better. Kronii actually wants her gachis so she can't take a hard stance like this

>>32290993
>Can collab with all of the top females in the industry
>Has opportunities to do almost anything they want
>Cares more about defending some random side project
Now don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with collabing with Holostars, but why do people like this even join Hololive if their goals are just to collab with males and squander their potentional

>>32290993
Much better than Kronii.
Nothing wrong with doing a collab with males as long as you're upfront about it and don't mislead unicorns into a parasocial relationship with you.
I think that's something Kronii didn't understand with all the SC's/drama.

>>32291447
this one literally need to go therapist https://gahope.org/10-signs-you-might-need-a-therapist/

>>32289291
The difference is that Kobo's audience seems to be unaffected (judging by her numbers), while Kronii lost some of her viewers. So either IDs are cucks, Westerns unicorns are unhinged, or Kronii didn't prepare her viewers properly

>>32290993
>You guys also please don't randomly ship people
These entitled motherfuckers actually think they have power over the fandom huh?

>>32290993
Based Kobo, why can't the EN fans be like this?

The fact kronii didn't know what cgdcgt was had any concept of the weeb idol culture makes me believe she doesn't know what unicorn or a gachikoi she probably thought the whole time it was two fanbases is why she blamed the shippers.

>>32291516
I will BEG Yagoo to give ID2, ID3, and Tempus 3D by next year, especially now that Japan's tourist policy has lessened.
And he's going to deliver.

Human beings don't speak that SEAnig language

>>32291582
>why do people like this even join Hololive if their goals are just to collab with males and squander their potentional
Unicorns in shambles

>>32290331
man, if only you know. hint: every korean who doesn't live in korea are buff as fuck due to lots of random obscure jobs

>>32290993
Based Kobo

>>32291232
Going by her collabs so far, it's far more likely to be one of Indo local streamers / VTubers

>>32291684
No, but if they're angry about it, don't say they never warned you

>>32290993
>BO, COLLAB WITH MYLIHYA,
It's HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
I'M SCREAMING HDKSEH IN BSNSJJAGSNSH
MANCA MANCAAA AAAHHH WANGY WANGY MANCA

Kobo should've said guys my model is a child you should not be falling in love with a child is wrong you're too old kek.

>>32290302
What you just said about them can be applied to many holos

>>32291582
Because, surprise surprise, Hololive doesn't forbid their members from collabing with males, and neither do most idol groups as long as it doesn't go further than just friend / business-oriented relationship.
VTubers unicorns seem to be even more unhinged than their real idols counterpart. Good thing that unlike idol unicorns, most of the time they can't interact with their oshi physically

>>32290993
Wait, so she blantantly told gachikoi to unsubscribe and fuck off without sugarcoating her words?

>>32292168
HoloID are based what's new

>>32292049
Wait what the fuck.
She's such a business woman I love her lmao

>>32289926
Problem for perma virgins like yourself definitely.

>>32289291
third world shitskin who cares lol

>>32292168
Lmao, she swears in indo many times. She doesn't need to sugarcoat her words.

>>32292168
It was more of a "Even if you are gachikoi, don't expect me to pander to you". She didn't go as far as chasing them off.

>>32292312
>who cares
still reply

>>32291994
>they're angry
Oh no, I am so scared. What are they gonna do to 4chan or even reddit and twitter if it ever happens?

>>32290993
>[SB : People who had a crush on you already waved their white flags with your ideal boy criterias]
>Aoyama Masaya from tokyo mew mew is her crush
>Ichigo describes Masaya as "smart", "cute", "very athletic" and "popular at school". He is also depicted as being a polite and calm person.

Aight then kobo...

>>32292359
unless it's mistranslated >>32290993
>Kobo isn't girlfriend-able, I don't want to build a fanbase with gachikois, I shooed them away, bye-bye gachikois.

>>32292168
even if you don't speak indonesian, she literally said "unsubs" around 1:04

>>32290331
Have you seen how popular kpop is nowadays? Zoomer girls would unironically fuck twinks with peanuts before actual men

>>32289621
>as crazy
They're x20 worse.

>>32292069
theyre cute girls, so it's ok

>>32291582
This is a point that I like to make as well. Hololive and Stars are supposed to be two distinctly separate things unlike something like Niji.
If you want to frequently collab with the guys and blur the lines between Holo and Stars then why join an all female group in the first place?
Collabing every once and a while with the Stars isn't an issue but if Stars collabs start to make up 1/5 or more of your collabs especially when there are so many actual Holo mems that you aren't collabing with, why did you join?
At that point what's the difference between you and a Niji member other than company?

>>32291994
All I am saying is that they are entitled bitches.

>>32291461
>Kobo never did any gfe pandering
When did Kronii start?

>>32292359
She said gachikois are scary and she doesn't want them from that anon's translation

>>32289291
didn't you heard their whispering round? This sexual tension got me blushed then
I bet it caused meltdown to the people that had yet to know that they are gachis

>>32292122
>>32292723
Cry about it all you want, Cover is 100% fine with this and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>32292753
Look at her merch.

>>32290993
Ah, so THAT'S why kobokeks have been awfully quiet around here recently

>>32290993
>I don't want to build a fanbase with gachikois, I shooed them away, bye-bye gachikois.

bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off

shut up ENFags

>>32292723
Niji doesn't bring big numbers
If she's in NijiID, she wouldn't be relevant
Also, look at this >>32293014

>>32292359
Nah, she actually don't want gachikois. Two people translated it already.
>>32290806
>>32290993
You want third confirmation? Here have mine

>>32293003
>Literally the face of
>No risk of drama from men going forwards
It did

>>32293100
Face of ID*

>>32292936
>merch
I didn't ask when her merch made you parasocial, I asked when Kronii herself did it

>>32293014
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>32292919
you're going to keep losing and you're going to be smug all the way

>>32290993
Wait a sec, isn't her audience consists of 85% are single guys with 50% never were in relationship?

>>32292723
Every Vtuber root had no boundaries, Kizuna Ai could collab with anyone she wanted. Sora can collab with either male or female if she want to, any talents in Hololive can collab with either male or female if they want to.

The idea of Hololive can only collab with girls only came out because people over-memed that video of Yagoo saying he wants to make it like AKB48

>>32293358
ENFags malding right now

>>32293100
>Literally the face of ID

She wasn't anti-gachikoi from the start was she?

Collabing with indo pewdiepie right now
she can't stop winning

>>32292919
>Cover is 100% fine with this
That isn't the point, they have a once in a lifetime chance that people would kill for, to be in and amongst the Holo girls living the dream and creating all kinds of content with them, yet would rather focus on something that can be got anywhere else

>>32292723
Collabs don't "blur the line", anon. Collab is essentially just working together.
Case in point: AKB48 is an all female group (because you fags keep comparing Hololive and AKB earlier on). That doesn't stop them from working with males in their variety show (AKBingo), or in drama (which usually only few of their tops could take part in). Most people don't complain that "Fuck, they blurred the line between AKB and Johnny's")
Back to VTubers, they should be able to collab with whoever they want. Essentially, they joined Hololive to be a successful VTuber and hope Hololive can help them to go further. Nothing more, nothing less. There isn't any real need to make clear distinction between Holo and Niji. It's up to the chuuba themselves if they want to make their own identities stand out.
I meant, look at Kobo right now. She is having one of the most viewed stream in her career, while collabing with 3 ID meatbags gaming celebs (presumably, Idk about IDs). This stream is a success so far, helps Hololive to broaden their reach in ID market, and that's good enough. She doesn't need to think "Hey, I need to be different from Niji / VShojo / whatever VTuber group" - just do what she wants.

>>32293399
It was more than just that.
>Miko going "no males" and talking about how it is like a girls only highschool
>The west in general having no clue about idols
>Girls avoiding men after R*shia showed us how much money you can make if you REALLY tap into the gfe angle harder than anyone had before

>>32293399
>The idea of Hololive can only collab with girls only came out because people over-memed that video of Yagoo saying he wants to make it like AKB48

Which doesn't make sense either seeing that AKB48 (or most popular JP idols in general) work with male idols now and then, too. Idolfags don't care since they've long accepted that it's inevitable, as long as their relationships don't progress into something romantic

>>32293387
You'd think that. But >>32292549 happened early in her streams. She also pulled a Suisei and was firm in her expectations.

>>32293567
Certified lah ngatur moment

>>32293721
I have no idea why you guys keep sighting Miko and Subaru when both have collabed with Maimoto, your best bet is to use Lamy or something

>29k and still rising

CAN'T STOP WIN GUYS
BURGERLAND UNICORNS EAT SHIT TONIGHT !!!

>>32293053
Isn't she streaming with some big name streamers? Of course that's going to bring people in.
>>32293399
Hololive has at its core always been an all female group. Even the few members that collab with guys do so infrequently. This has always been the case.
Why would you want to ruin one of the things that make Hololive stand out from other companies?

>>32290331
He radiaties groomer energy.

>>32293721
>>32293739
Thanks for adding, I don't actually follow AKB48 but I had a friend who followed and watched it and now I remember there was a guy in a gameshow with funny haircut who will usually get close to the AKB members face and do some creepy tongueplay

>>32293567
>That isn't the point, they have a once in a lifetime chance that people would kill for, to be in and amongst the Holo girls living the dream and creating all kinds of content with them
They can still do it. Collabing with males doesn't make them blacklisted by other Hololive girls. But
>yet would rather focus on something that can be got anywhere else
If that's what they want to, it's up to them. If their popularity drops, they will just have to live with it. If their popularity raises, good for them. In any case, it's not something Hololive forbid, neither is it something bad. People shouldn't try to get into Hololive to work with other girls - they should try to get into Hololive to be successful themselves.

>>32292723
Sometimes people just want to make more friends you know?
Hololive is actually very small for any members who can't speak japanese.
And there aren't really 'so many actual Holo mems' when you consider timezone, personalities, things to do, compatible games to play etc etc.

>>32290993
INDOGCHAMA I KNEEL

>>32294029
No males is very literally not a thing in the idol industry and it never was. There are dating restrictions, yes, but even that is overblown in the west.

>>32290993
Astronomically based

>>32293926
>Hololive has at its core always been an all female group. Even the few members that collab with guys do so infrequently. This has always been the case.
>Why would you want to ruin one of the things that make Hololive stand out from other companies?
Market expansion is a thing, anon. There are so many Hololive members already, you can choose who to watch and follow depending on YOUR preference. You want someone who rarely or never collabs with male? There are Hologirls who covers that. You want something more general? They have that too.

>>32290993
>I shooed them away, bye-bye gachikois.

BIG KEK

>>32293387
Yes, and she's drawing her boundaries so she only feeds onthem while allowing them to feed on her... from far away. Preferably not even speaking, just throwing money.

Not that I expected any different from a mudslime lel

>>32290993
>A literal child has more spine than almost anyone else in the company

>>32293621
Are you being dense on purpose? What you described AKB doing are professional collabs which aren't even part of the discussion.
As to your second point, what is the point of generations and having a distinction between Stars and Holo if group identity doesn't matter?
Why have any kind of binding connections at all? In your world, everyone would essentially just be an indie with certain restrictions.

>>32291845
I have never met a buff as fuck korean.

>>32293928
>women are charmed by him
>GROOMER
This is why global birthrates are collapsing.

>>32294286
Children are the brutally honest ones

>>32294353
>God forbid they have group names
Seriously, at this point you will never receive any satisfying answer. I suggest to contact Hololive and ask these questions directly to them.

>>32292549
Nah, her criteria actually is her ex, a rich man who has lambo, or at least richer than her

>>32294458
A lot of women find Nowa charming too, but they have very different energy and vibes.

>>32294088
They're free to do what they want off screen and in their own personal time. Collabing on stream won't stop them from making friends if that's what they want.
>>32294225
There are also other companies that cover that niche too, why don't YOU go watch them instead of Holo?
Why do you want to make every group essentially the same? What would be the difference between Holo and Niji if your suggestion were to be followed? They both would have girls where some avoid male collabs and others do them all the time.

I don't get why you fags are mad, just give her what she wants, if she doesn't want gachikois then stop throwing money at her, simple as

>>32294086
>the world is on fire
>let it burn
Slave mentality.

>>32294659
Except when you're an actual rich oil baron. That's the exception kek.

>>32290993
Extremely based, fuck gachikois. I wish EN had the guts to say this shit, but they value getting free money from their desperate pay piggies more than fostering a healthier community

>>32294541
Group names alone mean nothing if there isn't a uniting ideology or culture behind them.
Hololive as a whole has that already and it helps make them distinct and is one of the reasons why many people like watching them over other groups.

>>32291582
>>32292723
You're talking about the branch were one of its original three members (Iofi) was a Holostars fan BEFORE becoming a Hololive fan and Risu had watched them too. Gen 1 set the standard of being friendly with them, deal with it.

>>32294645
Who told you I don't watch Nijis? I watch them lol, especially during Apex collabs, I also tune in to VSPO.

>>32294353
All Hololive (or for that matter, any other corpo VTuber groups) collabs are professional collabs. It's part of their work even if they enjoy. They are professional streamers, anon.
>As to your second point, what is the point of generations and having a distinction between Stars and Holo if group identity doesn't matter?
There is a distinction between Stars and Holo because they aren't the same. Different audiences and different directions. Just because they work together now and then doesn't change that.

>>32289621
>I fucking knew Indonesians are as crazy
Considering what happened with Ina. Those SEAmonkeys are worse.

>>32294808
>Hololive as a whole has that already and it helps make them distinct and is one of the reasons why many people like watching them over other groups
You don't like the state of Hololive now? Well get filtered then, we gon move on with or without you.

>>32292359
BASED

>>32291447
coming from a borgor thats pretty funny

>>32294808
Most of the time, Myth members have been doing their own things for a long while. They only get together during big events. In your logic, Myth might as well be dysfunctional now?
People watch what they are interested in, not what is under certain names or brand (although that might help grabbing their attention at first).

>>32295091
People do like the state of Hololive now, they don't like the fans who are trying to change it (often against the wishes of the talents).

>>32290993
Based af
Meanwhile on EN kronii bends the knee to handful of whiny cunts

>>32290993
So this is why she barely makes any money

>>32295300
True, I'm talking about >>32294808 cause he seems like he loathes the current state of Hololive, like you said, one of those people who are trying to force things against the wishes of the talents.

>>32294571
Let's just get one thing and one thing straight here- a man isn't a groomer unless he's specifically in a position of power moulding a girl to be his cocksleeve. Like a professor dating his student. Nowa being 40 and just -existing- and some 30yo hag wants his dick can't possibly be grooming merely because of age differences, she's a big girl and Americans need to stop being babies and accept responsibilities like adults instead of screaming about how they're 200,000 dollars in debt for a PHD they took at 27 because they were 'just a 27yo kid that didn't know PHDs were so expensive'. Adult is not kid.

>>32294891
I'm not saying that they should avoid them 100%.
I am saying that they should put a limit on their interactions. They can also be friends off stream too, people aren't trying to dictate their personal lives.
>>32294951
The point was that Niji acts like you were describing, why change Hololive which fits it's own niche, into something that already exists?
>>32294956
No that's false, there are professional collabs like music or promotional streams and casual collabs where there isn't an itinerary and they just chat or play a game.
The problem isn't that there is an occasional casual collab together, it's when those collabs start making up a more significant part of their activities that it becomes an issue.
It's like if there's a cgdct anime but it changes to romance every 3rd or 4th episode, is it really a cgdct anime anymore? It's probably not going to feel like one at that point.

>>32290993
>I don't want to build a fanbase with gachikois, I shooed them away, bye-bye gachikois.
I thought she was supposed to be a cute lolibait chuuba? Why isn't she like Gura? She just sounds like a cunt.

>>32295747
Well then time to wake you up then. I don't know since when you followed Hololive but Hololive has never been and will never be the cgdct you've been imagining.

>>32295989
>I thought she was supposed to be a cute lolibait chuuba? Why isn't she like Gura? She just sounds like a cunt.
and you sounded like a virgin

>>32296031
So what is a good company for CGDCT then?

>>32295747
>The problem isn't that there is an occasional casual collab together, it's when those collabs start making up a more significant part of their activities that it becomes an issue.
What "significant part of their activities" are you talking about? Collabs with males still rarely happen among HoloEN, even for male-friendly Holo like Mori or Baelz.

>>32295151
In case you've forgotten, Mori got a lot of flak for seemingly being more interested in things outside Holo.
People also talked about the Myth trinity because Mori and Kiara were often doing their own things.
It's all about the ratio that their various activities make up. It's not an exact science but when something like Stars collabs starts to make up a larger percentage of your total collabs, that person will start to feel increasingly closer to them.

>>32296113
and you "sounded" like an esl reddit tourist.

>>32292168
I never thought I'd see the day where some tiny malnourished Indonesian FPS girl had the confidence to tardwrangle her chat where a HoloEN member did not

Kobo I kneel

>>32296115
Honestly, my advice is to NOT follow any companies but to follow individual members / VTubers from any companies

>>32296301
>le esl
>le reddit
>le tourist
One more buzz buzz word you'll get 4Chan VIP pass for free fr

>>32296113
>>32296301
Now kiss

>>32296357
Ok, do you have any examples of indie cgdct then?

>>32296389
fr bussin no cap

>>32295747
>No that's false, there are professional collabs like music or promotional streams and casual collabs where there isn't an itinerary and they just chat or play a game.
Most, if not all collabs are there to promote themselves and / or their collab partner(s). Just because you didn't realize it doesn't mean those collabs were just pointless fun
>It's like if there's a cgdct anime but it changes to romance every 3rd or 4th episode, is it really a cgdct anime anymore? It's probably not going to feel like one at that point.
Good thing that there isn't any romance here, then. It's still cgdct. A male friend / brother figure doesn't stop cute things being cute.

>>32296441
Watch my wife nene

>>32296115
>CGDCT
The faster you realize what you truly want, the faster you'll actually find it. People blabbering about CGDCT are just gachis in denial every single time.

>>32296441
Try her and her friends, though she might not be to your likings if you hate Apex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWteZ-wp96k

>>32296031
I've been following since June 2020 and what you're saying is a lie. The vast majority of Hololive's activity are girls doing things with other girls.
Don't try and create some kind of revisionist history just because some members had a relatively small amount of outside or Stars interaction.
>>32296184
They didn't use to take up much before Stars EN debuted. I was perfectly fine with what they had done in the past because it didn't happen very often.
There's been a trend lately of weekly Stars collabs from those two. Maybe it will slow down in the future but it's not something that I particularly want to continue. They have so many girls that they rarely collab with inside of EN.

>>32289926
>altare is the real problem for everyone

Are you guys REALLY that intimidated that he has so many exes and freely talks about it

>>32290389
He only grooms his genmates.
>>32289739
>>32289926
>>32290302
They're only antis are schizos /here/ who obsess over a nothing burger and tought that blue Mori would like them.

>>32296301
oh noo he called me an esl, how could i ever recover?

>>32296441
That anon said individual members from any company, though, not just "indies". I meant, Gura, IRyS, Fauna and Mumei are still perfect for CGDCT. 3 out of 4 (Gura, Fauna, IRyS) have been ignoring males' existences if that's what you are looking for, and Mumei barely interacted with males in their big collab. If you are letting Mori, Kronii or Baelz affect those four's images in your mind, it's on you.

>>32296666
>They have so many girls that they rarely collab with inside of EN.

Have you ever considered that the other girls are just fucking boring and no fun to collab with? Have you SEEN HoloEN collabs? Without Sana they're basically just shit. I've been to dentist appointments more interesting than a Myth collab.

>>32296614
>The faster you realize what you truly want, the faster you'll actually find it.
But I literally just want cute girls doing cute things without being reminded that other m*les exist.

>>32296748
>Fauna and Mumei
Can we just take a moment to laugh at the deep irony of unicorns clinging to these two

>>32296788
Just don't watch the collabs then....it's not that fucking hard, literally just turn your computer off and do something else

>>32296389

>>32296812
I rather bet on who will be the next Christina Grimmie.

>>32296861
>literally just leave the room while your wife is fucking other men, just go do something else

>>32296861
Well said

I know Rust has settled down but I'm impressed that she's winning over pekora

Kovalskia, analysis?

>>32296911
Cuckchama, you need to be in a relationship to be cucked. The ones you make up in your head do not count

>>32296527
Both of these are such disingenuous takes it's ridiculous.
There is a clear difference between a stream where they are being paid by another company to promote a product or service and have a script to follow and one where they are just hanging out.
Secondly, the romance was just an example but you're blatantly lying if you think that collabs with males have the same dynamics, feel, and atmosphere as female only collabs or in any way resemble cgdct.

>>32293928
This is true. That's also why I stopped watching him. Pity because I liked him the most in Tempus

>>32296911
She is not your wife and you don't have a unique claim on her, you share her with thousands of men daily, please take your meds

>>32297041
based

>>32290993
Based literal shit eating child.

>>32296911
ding dong chama...

>>32297119
>pubes

>>32297065
based

>>32297049
She's not dating you and never will. Kys.

>>32295708
Yes and Altare's position that facilitates his grooming is being a gen's leader. Even if he's a kouhai to many people, he's "the public face of his generation" in a sense. That's why Sora daisenpai came to greet him anyway

>>32296748
I do like those but
>Gura
Never fucking streams and when she does it's Rust.
>IRyS
Honestly I've never watched her that much since I thought she was just a singer. She seems too close to Mori and Bae. I can't believe they'll never rope her into a collab.
>Fauna
Cute and I do enjoy her content.
>Mumei
Has at least shown she's not opposed to male collabs.

>>32296749
That's like, just your opinion man. I have no interest in male collabs so I could say the exact same thing about the Stars collabs.

>>32296666
Matsuri who sometimes on open mic during Apex, basically all Holomembers who plays Apex has collabed with male Vtubers

Haachama who did a totsumachi to a lot of indie Vtubers (male and female)

Also Sora a month before you started folllowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqo-TLVMr1o

>>32289291
is it just me or HoloID fanbase become cringier ever since ID3 debut?
there's no such thing as Unicorns and such like this in ID1 and ID2.

inb4 you said alfred,
alfred is an exception because that guy has mental illness, he got jumped by everyone after he keeps DM-in Moona's rm and dictate her like he own her, he quits from the community as a whole after that incident.

>>32297049
>you're blatantly lying if you think that collabs with males have the same dynamics, feel, and atmosphere as female only collabs
You're right they're better

>>32297223
>I have no interest in male collabs so I could say the exact same thing about the Stars collabs
Which you have clearly watched of course because you have 'no interest' so naturally you know all about it right

>>32297041
>>32297065
It's called suspension of disbelief. When I read a book or watch a movie or play a game, I don't genuinely believe it's me in there but I suspend that in order to enjoy the entertainment. Why is it supposed to be different for vtubers? Why am I supposed to sit there and enjoy watching a cute girl I'd like to fuck thirsting over other men? That is literally cuckold behaviour.

>>32297310
What do you mean dude everyone is cheering on Kobo.

I hope baelz give the unicorns the ether too. Come on rat I believe in you.

>>32296788
I want the reverse as you: watching cute boys while not being reminded that other women exist. Can't wait for this collab arch to be done already. Management is fucking stupid to not veto this, considering the outrage it causes

>>32296861
It's easy to ignore a few if only a few members do them. If they become frequent or more members join it becomes very hard to ignore them.
Especially so since there will be an increase in things like art, memes, clips ect focusing on those things.
When this happens the culture around Holo would start to change in a direction away from what makes them unique and why many people watch them.

>>32296911
Your "oshi" doesn't love, she doesn't even know who you are, and if she met you she would call the cops because you sound like a creep, that's why unicorns deserve to get mocked

>>32297394
That's 100% on you for being a self insert cuck instead of being able to enjoy things like an adult.

>>32297394
Vtubing is a play and you have the right to comment if you don't like where it is headed. The how is what I object.
Also you could not watch that particular stream.

>>32297437
Based, I completely respect that. Both of us should be able to get the content we want. I don't understand why people can't wrap their heads around that.

>>32296666
>I was perfectly fine with what they had done in the past because it didn't happen very often.
Because NOW YOU PAID ATTENTION TO IT MORE THAN YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.

Don't try to be a revisionist yourself when you really only followed several members, which by the way, we don't even know which Hololive members you frequent on.

>>32297394
And when I listen to autists like you I'm left in disbelief. Get a life or go jerk off or something. Preferably to NTR since that's all you ever talk about, you clearly like it.

>>32297394
Except that's your own way of coping with your miserable life. You do this to yourselves.

>>32297432
Balez, the person who joined hololive just to interact with Roberu, still has unicorns fans?

>>32297437
StarsEN2 should have at least one guy that won't collab with the girls, now that would be fair.

>>32297421
that's good then, i'm too lazy to read the thread.
i hope they didn't become unironic unicorns like those faggots in kikebook group

>>32297532
I blame twitter hivemind mentality and other shitters like that. For them it becomes more important to sound like "But I CARE about the streamer like a speshul human bean with their rights and needs!" than actually demanding quality of content or talents to abide to the company's core values

>>32297631
Axel hasn't interacted with any of them.

>>32297609
It don't stop incels like you from trying to stop her from collabing with males. Cope.

>>32297497
If enjoying things like an adult is watching big boobie time girl schlick herself over blue hair twink then I don't want to enjoy things like an adult.

>>32297531
>you have the right to comment if you don't like where it is headed
Not according to all the redditors and people here.
What do you mean by how? How are people currently commenting that you dislike and how do you think they should comment?
>just don't watch
I've already addressed that.

>>32297594
I don't have a life that's why I watch vtubers to escape.

>>32289926
Magni literally fucked cosplay/vtuber girls before, how is he okay?

>>32297715
sounds like the problem isn’t unicorns, it’s that people don’t want to see males when they watch hololive

>>32297174
Good thing that was never the issue then! If you don't want Holo to be about cgdct then maybe you should go somewhere else to get what you want.
>>32297300
Like I said, those are just a couple examples from a small number of Holo members. JP is huge and the vast majority don't interact with men onstream at all. A few doing collabs with guys once and a blue moon isn't going to create any significant change.
>>32297320
Then watch Niji instead and don't complain about Holo not being about that.

>>32297746
>I don't have a life that's why I watch vtubers to escape.
Stop being a pathetic retard, you're end up like the bjork stalker or worse.

>>32297713
>>32297631
That's why I'm gonna focus with him from now on. This collab arch really puts me off

>>32297761
Yeah unicorns the ones who's been bitching about it. Everyone else laughs at you fags.

>>32291582
>>32292723
>>32293926
>>32294645
>>32296666
>>32297440
>>32297746
Sounds more like (you) issue. Get some help! And I mean from an actual mental & psychology professional!

>>32297761
If you don't want to see unicorns but you still want to watch Bae or Mori I honestly don't know what to tell you.

Try rayshifting into an alternate universe maybe?

>>32297760
Doesn't sound like a groomer on stream. Just an autistic furry. Again, what happens off-stream is easily brushed off and not of my concern

I knew I was right never even to check out any Indog vtubers

>>32297394
holyshit beta male mentallity
kek

>>32297933
>Don't want to see unicorns
MY BRAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>32297785
>Good thing that was never the issue then!
Yes it is. You're jealous someone collabed with the girl you like. You're not angry someone intruded in your "CGDCT". That's just a cope. If that was the real issue then ignoring it would be the most trivial thing in history and you could just go watch someone else during the one day the collab happened. If you're going to be an unicorn at least be honest about it.

>>32297959
glad you didn't check it, cuz we literally don't need introvert like you

>>32290302
Noir is a fake what?

>>32297959
Kaela is pretty good.
As far as I know she's not a cunt to her audience. Just tells them to get some help ironically.

>>32297574
What are you talking about? Who was having weekly or even bi weekly Stars collabs before Stars EN debuted?
There were months between any Mori or Bae collabs with them with the exception maybe of Mori and Rikka's music collab.
ID collabed with them far more frequently but even ID had a decent amount of time between collabs for the most part.

Holostars ID will correct her

>>32298035
just a fake person. lies about his history, his personality, his preferences.

>>32298035
A fake autistic boomer I guess, even though he behaved in exactly the same way as orc man for literally years.

>>32297746
Then you either neck yourself and stop being a waste of oxygen or do something productive in your life for once like making 3D porn, no one's gonna feel pity here for your life being miserable and alone

>>32298104
And you know that because?

hope your oshi stay safe

>>32297872
Amazing, we've moved on to ad hom attacks when you can't argue any of the points.
Maybe you're the one that should get some help. You can't articulate a coherent counter argument but are so insistent that something has to change because you want it to when you can easily go somewhere else.

>>32296748
>Mumei
Why you niggers keep mentioning her on these conversations when you well know she not only already collabed with the Homos but she isn't against it either?

>>32290993
I hate women

>>32297841
>>32297872
>>32297985
>>32298007
>>32298121
You know, before 2016 there was a time when this site was full of lonely virgins who could discuss and share in their loneliness together. It's sad that such people no longer have an outlet.

>>32298133
game recognize game

>>32298045
Oh you're changing the scope to just HoloEN and StarsEN and the timeline to after StarsEN debut now? Have it ever crossed your mind that interest and language barrier might be the thing that has been keeping them from collabing with Stars JP?

>>32290993
So she basically did a Suisei.
You see Kronii?
This is what you shuld have done too.

>>32298318
Kronii's gachikois paid for that new house Kronii lives in now, anon.

>>32298274
And before that if you looked at a 3d woman you were branded and outcast and a normalfag. All of you need to go back and give back my shitty image board that died in 2008.

>>32298201
These recent streams made me go from excited for Altare's membership to not being even able to stand him when he pops in suddenly in a tempus collab. Is this the power of girls collabs maybe? Uprooting potential gachis in the very start?

>>32298274
I AM a lonely virgin, I achieved wizard status years ago and I can tell you're just bottom of the barrel pathetic because you take it so seriously. Stop wallowing in self pity and just appreciate it for shit and giggles you fucking faggot.

>>32298274
>>32298390
You just need to return to SanCom

>>32298274
Yeah fuck off, seeing lonely miserable people is just pathetic, go sob on twitter or smth, you will get your sympathy points there

>>32298274
kobo's viewers were also full of lonely virgin anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUtJLmQlboc

>>32298007
See
>>32297440
Don't try and pretend like the actual issue is something else just so that you can feel some kind of moral justification and have an easier time arguing.
If you can't argue the actual points without deflecting to made up issues, maybe it's because you're wrong.

>>32298429
So you're a lonely virgin yet have no problem watching chuubas gush over males?
How the fuck do you see it as just "shit and giggles"? It's reminding you of what you will never have.

>>32298390
It died in 2007 when new days in guy fawkes masks paraded through the streets directing people to 4chan. Agent Pubeit was pretty based though.