/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32274590
they don't watch streams

>>32274639
BECAUSE THEY'RE AT FUCKING 4AM FOR US YOU AMERICAN TROGLODYTE

As an EU fag Vesper has saved me from watching 3AM streams, I love him.... and his 9inch dick

>why do vtubers not cater to an area the size of a parking lot that speaks 150+ different languages

>>32274667
So just sleep during the day stay up all night. Easy

Because shittalking gypsies isn't seiso

>>32274965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke59CC3gBA0&t=11185s

>>32274667
Just get your priorities straight

>>32274590
That's a map of the EU.

>>32274753
>30% parkingspot

>>32274590
The european chuubas do

EU is culturally 10 years behind Asia and the US. It's not worth it.

embrace indie vtubers and you'll find plenty, the corporations don't give a fuck about you

>>32274590
Production Kawaii Gen 3 has two chuubas that cater to EU
One Brit and one German
Give them a try

>>32274590
The European market is just too small.

>>32274590
Because Yuros only care about football

>>32276338
their population is bigger than the US and average income is higher, just look at the amount Kiara is making in SCs despite being the least watched
whoever manages to set foot there first will control the market in the end, since no competition atm
same goes for southamerica (less money on average but way higher population)
if the corpos were smart, they would debut spanish speaking chuubas asap

>>32276553
Reimu and Scarle flopped

>>32274590
Stop watching big corpos and look at small corpos and indies.

>>32275460
>10 years behind
>2012
>Before wokeism and PCfags took over
Holy fuck, take me back.

>>32276631
Production Kawaii has a few euros
New ones just debuted too

>>32274667
Depends on the chuuba. For example some holoJPs start most of their streams between 14 and 16

idol-he caters to europe
we had a nice chatting stream after bully crashed https://youtu.be/SStk0kCEED8?t=8426

>>32276466
Thank you for calling it football

But we're much bigger weebs than any new worlders THOUGH

>>32274590
same reason en game publishers seem to hate you

>>32274590
bro your orange chimkin?

>>32276631
>>32276872
okay which do i check out kawaai or connect

>>32277136
lol
we don't even have a single anime con here
weeb my ass

>>32277208
do you want vulgar jokes and /vt/ pandering? phase connect
do you want mostly seiso and no-male allowed?
kawaii

>>32277261
there are several in UK, France, Germany, Italy and Spain

>>32277261
Anon....Paris has anime cons that on the scale of USA or bigger and its much much less populated

>>32274590
Good luck catering to "market" with tons of different languages

>>32277306
>>32277334
too bad I don't live in any of those countries

>>32277358
everyone speaks english
all they have to do is different is the time

>>32277396
Nothing stops you from going there. Free borders my man. How do you think burgers do when there's a anime convention in another state?

>>32274590
Ok
holo/niji EU
what language do they speak?

>>32277358
Every European school teaches English as early as possible to ensure everyone in the eurozone can interact with each other for work and trade. And to make unification fantasies easier to pull off.

We need an Esperanto vtuber

>>32275460
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>32277358
how many languages do you think SEA speaks

>>32277500
English + a mix of european language/japanese.

>>32277564
but we already have a branch that speaks english

>>32274753
>2nd largest market
Enjoy your SEA paper Money and inflated Burger bucks

>>32276589
>Reimu
Debuffed by Vox
>Scarle
Cant even speak spanish properly

>>32277261
Polak hand wrote this

>>32274667
Sounds like a (You) problem.

>>32277586
Yes, I realize the EN branch is a bit superfluous when ID already speaks english.

>>32276338
>To small
4 out of the top ten largest economies are euros

>>32276261
Does the german speak german?

>>32277873
She streams in English but she can speak German and Spanish

>>32277564
i would love for one chuuba per country
like they all speak english when collab but also have some streams exclusively in french, polish, portuguese, etc.
So basically what Kiara is atm for the german speaking countries
and with them all being from different countries you can get that awesome european banter

>>32277927
Basically all you'd need to cover most of Europe is one who speaks French, German (kiara could count here), Mexican(Spanish)/Brazilian (Portuguese) and maybe an Italian one. That solidly covers Western Europe. So 3-4 chuubas.
Then maybe a Polish one to be based. Ukrainian for extra spice.

They'll all be close enough to make off collabs easier than myth/council.

And I'll be able to dick all of them. Even if they're dudes, because European.

>>32274739
>I love him.... and his 9inch dick
^ Western European confirmed. Eastern Europe only watches girls.

She's trying, even if the demand is very small.

>>32275460
>impying
EU was watching anime 20 years before the US

>>32277458
>going to local con
>$5 for transport
>$5 for a ticket
>going to a con in a different country
>$500 for transport
>$200 for a place to stay
>$100 for ticket and food
these are not the same at all

>>32274590
Did you know? There are vtubers outside Hololive.

>>32278883
You are just retarded. Also the comparison was for going to a different state and going to a different country. Of course it's gonna cost you more than just going to a local convention.

>>32274590
Please watch this cute German fairy who speaks in a very weird cadence and cries every stream
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFcdX8we6-tSndu6w4bwnag

>>32277358
Every single person knows English, retard-kun.

>>32277422
>>32279141

>>32274896
Work

>>32275405
Who? (Unironically)

>>32279189
anon these dogshit numbers are 10 years old + the younger generations are significantly higher. Social media predominantly in english and mainstreaming of stuff like anime made all the kids learn english just like the latinos in the 90s with dbz

>>32275460
>Half of Asia is just Islam infested shitholes
>These countries are somehow 10 years ahead of Europe culturally
LOL!
LMAO! even

>>32275460
I want to be as far away as possible from anything US. It is absolute blight on this planet.

>>32279189
https://www.ef.com/wwen/epi/

>>32279473
>Slav countries at the top of high proficiency
LOL

>>32276338
Well, its time to educate yourself. France manga sells are ~50% of USA manga sales. And thats France alone. On top of that A lot of mangas are first translated to french and then to english.

>>32279801
>mfw Mai Ball has official French and German translations but no English

>>32278883
>the most retarded shit I read this month
Nigga, you can go to France for 20 Euro from your eastern europe shithole. Hostels are maybe ~30% of price you just gave if you stay for 3 days or whatever. And how the fuck are you going to spend 100$ on food in 3 days?

>>32279913
Plane tickets are literally $200+ for one way.
>inb4 just hitchhike lol

>hostels
Nice way to get robbed and or shanked
And food in first world countries is retardedly expensive doubly so in big cities where cons tend to be.

>>32279570
Slav countries learn english starting from first grade of elementary school. They also dont dub their movies/cartoons/tv shows to their native language like Germans, Italias, Spaniars, etc.
Keep coping you little bitch.

>>32279972
>Plane tickets are literally $200+ for one way.
I went from Serbia to Sweden, twice, for like 120 euros.

>>32279913
>And how the fuck are you going to spend 100$ on food in 3 days?
He is a fat fuck, of course.

>>32274590
>Bunch of shit languages spoken by no one but them
>Fr*nces
I wonder why

>>32274667
Enna streams in Europe hours. Just saying.

>>32279973
>he thinks it's in school = everyone's good at it
LMAO
I could count on one hand the number of people in my hs generation that weren't dogshit at English. And that was 6 years ago so shit hasn't changed much.
>They also dont dub their movies/cartoons/tv shows to their native language
We literally do retard. We even make out own openings.

>>32279189
>10yo data
>Question was just "Do you think you can hold a fluent conversation in english", which means its just self perception over a subjective matter of "what is a fluent conversation".
Advanced imageboard brain data sourcing. at least ts not /pol/ maps with asspull data.

>>32279972
I want from Warsaw to Brussels for 80 zł retard. I stayed in tens of different hostels last decade. I never was robbed or assaulted. Are you from Romania?

>>32280020
Okay let's assume that's 100% legitimate. That's still expensive as fuck compared to taking the bus to a nearby city which is $5-10
>>32280099
lol sure and I'm the Queen of England

>>32276553
>average income is higher
Europeans have less disposable income than americans

>>32276553
>average income is higher
lol no it's not, US makes Europe look like poorfag town

How do you even pander to europeans? Eurovision watchalong? I would watch that.

>>32274590
Lumi?
Saru?

>>32280123
>lol sure and I'm the Queen of England
I dont think he's lying. Like I said, I'm from Serbia that is a country with a very low standard of living, and even here a fucking cleaning lady can afford to go to Vienna or Venice for the weekend. It's not THAT expensive to travel.

>>32280181
Finana did an F1 racing watchalong.
Enna streams in EU timeslot.

>>32274753
Except almost all of them still speak english as a second language
Retard

vtubers aren't popular in Europe

>>32278129
If he plays Homeworld I will watch him

?
JP vtubers are great for european time zones

>>32279189
>>32277358
The newer generations learn more and more english
The boomers have the mentality of "fuck other languages I only want to learn my countries and im proud of my lack of knowledge!"

>>32280193
Maybe one that works abroad lmao because you're sure as fuck not going aboard every weekend with a wage of ~350 euros 90% of which go to rent, utilities and food.

>>32274590
nobody likes europoors

>>32276261
I need a name for the german one

>>32280388
>>32279088

>real JP chuubas all stream at EU times
>everyone talking about understanding english
fellow EU bros... you're not stuck watching shitty EN drama streamers, are you?

>>32280301
Conventions aren't held every weekends, retard. If you can't afford to go abroad 2, maybe 3 times a year for 3 days, consider suicide because nothing else will help your retarded ass.

>>32280414
Thanks I'll keep an eye on her

>>32279801
So what? You don't superchat for shit and that's what matters to vtubers. Put your money where your mouth is. Actively prove there's an actual market for streamers to pander to and they will.

>>32280123
Ok retard. And this is 50% more expansive than it was before covid and petrolum pirice spike.

>>32280450
I accept your concession. Glad we agree conventions are a first world only thing.

>>32280419
This
I'm french and I only watch holojp

>>32280525
>You don't superchat for shit
How about you start watching vtubers before you start posting on vtuber board anon. If you want the easiest available example, watch Kiara's streams if you want a vtuber that does minimal amount of EU acknowledgement. Nobody is going to SC if everyone sleeps and streamer talks about californi girl issues.

Damn... I wonder why that could be...

>>32280419
I'm too stupid to learn Japanese.

>>32280888
It's ok. Even if you don't understand a single word they're saying, they're still more entertaining than ENs.

>>32280535
Also, if you want to book a flight a month in advance its get as low as 40zł so less than 10 euro.

>>32280650
Wow, one vtuber out of the hundreds fielded by the major corpos plus the thousands of two views looking for an audience? You sure showed me, anon. Great job. I kneel.

Why would they waste their time with a made up fictional country?

Eastern European chuubas would be too based for vtubing

>>32281868
It would never work. They all hate each other and can't help themselves from talking shit.

>>32281592
Yes, kiara recives Euro donos, which proved you wrong. Im glad you are willing to accept your mistakes.

>>32281656
>H-he thinks Europe is a country...
This is your average /vt/ poster right here

>>32281978
Absolutely. You can totally fund an entire branch on one person's euro donations and the fact that you can't name more than one chuuba who gets significant funding from European viewers in no way implies that one person (or more likely a small handful of people) has already cornered the entire market. I am once again amazed by your powers of rhetoric and reason.

>>32282011
Euros sure do love to act like europe is a country, you can see it in this thread

>>32279233
https://twitter.com/AlfhildeO

>>32282317
Probably due to the EU acting like a federal government. United states of Europe.

>>32282292
Kiara is the worst example of European chuuba
(She is simply a reject of Japanese culture)
>Pale personality
>Idols
>jp rpgs

European chuuba should be like Vei or Saurei (but not whore)
>strong personality
>based
>honest


But Cover will still hire a fluid gender half Asian chuba with mental illnesses

>>32276553
>spanish speaking chuubas
WACTOR already exists and is doing pretty good.
>>32280419
This. I work from home and watch JP chuubas all the time. I also tune in to Amiya's streams at night, she's one of my favorite EN chuubas.
>>32280888
Most people in EU have to learn a second or a third language early on, I think this experience makes learning basic JP at least a bit easier.

>>32284398
It really doesn't. German and English are nothing like Japanese.

>>32284438
Slavs have no problems with Japanese pronunciation. It's basically the same thing.

The "Because they all speak different languages" argument is such a retarded one. Everyone in Europe who is interested in anime or vtubers speaks and understands English. It's really as simple as that. Also, when I say English, it's not broken English like SEA. Many countries in Europe like Sweden, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Iceland etc have a younger population who all speak flawless English. The reason yuros don't superchat often is because their isn't a HoloEN who streams at acceptable European times except for Kiara. Everyone else regularly streams past midnight or close to it. So they don't even get a chance to build a European fanbase.

The thing is, Japan is even more ignorant than America and so probably believes the language argument. So in their minds Europe can only speak a million different languages except English.

>>32274590
Europe is too diverse. You can't cater to Europe as a whole, cuz there ain't no real shared identity between all of them, that haven't been manufactured in modern times.
You can cater to Britain by having a pish-posh tea drinking snob vtuber or a chav, but that doesn't mean you also get a french audience.
You can cater to the Nordics by having a viking-themed vtuber, but that doesn't mean you also get an italian audence.
You can cater to the Slavs by having a gopnik-themed vtuber, but that doesn't mean you also get a Benelux audience.
You get the idea. When catering to Europe, you're most likely going to be very niche

Europeans are just not into anime or Japanese culture at all. I’m from Athens and didn’t know a single person who did all throughout middle school, high school, and university

>>32275027
holy fucking based

Amiya Aranha caters to Eu time mostly
she speaks broken german if that counts

>>32283828
>strong personality
>based
>honest
That literally describes Kiara to a tee though?

>>32285672
>crumbles when she's not fed unconditional validation 24/7
>bitch in collabs and even on the official channel
KFP is so fucking brainwashed it's unreal. I hope even more people leave her while there's still no growth to her viewership whatsoever so she cries on stream again.

Euros cant even afford their electric bills, youd be more successful appealing to latinx countries

>Btfo by Mexico
Reluctantly we will take the French
The Rest of European posing as weebs can fuck off.

>>32285943
>Doesn't crumble to peer pressure to do things just because others want her to
>Is always honest about her thoughts and feelings, sometimes dangerously so
>Does things her own way even if it's not directly beneficial to her in comparison to doing things another way
Being emotional doesn't invalidate having a strong personality, lamenting failure but then continuing to work hard regardless IS being strong.
I don't know why you seem so mad about the implication that you just described aspects of Kiara, because that's what you did and you haven't really shown any reason why they wouldn't be traits that describe her quite accurately.

>>32274590
Enna Alouette and several people of Phase Connect (like Tenma) stream at Euro primetime, I have to watch them at work hours myself

>>32286356
>Some European countries that have the population of one major US city, are not on the list, therefore they are "posing as weebs".
I am constantly reminded how stupid some of the people on /vt/ are.

>>32285095
>pronunciation
Ebin. Still need to spend 8970543 hours grinding kanji.

>>32286356
Taiwan has 28M, that's 2 Us cities
Cope seethe.

>>32286356
>Be Chile
>Weak developing country
>Population 20M
Yeah alright

>>32286992
But that's same for everyone trying to learn nihongo. We are all in this shit together.

>>32286356
Europeans go outside too much to be interested in anime.

>>32287629
Unironically
That's bad for vtubers tho

>>32274590
I barely watch HoloEN, not only because they stream at night, but also because their streams are boring as fuck. Enter Tempus, who regularly stream at relatively EU friendly hours and who are actually interesting. I have watched them more in a month than all the EN girls combined in two years lol

>>32287755
Yup. HoloEU would fail spectacularly.

>>32286742
That's per capita retard.
It means by slice of the population, not absolute.

>>32274590
JP does, and i would rather watch them.

>>32288238
Based

>>32275460
Thank god
You are welcome to be a sjw infested shithole by yourself mutt

>>32288756
You guys are literally dogs for the world economic forum. Kick out the Jews and we can talk.

>>32289049
This coming from JEW HQ itself, and about the one country in europe that is still under occupation from JEW HQ since ww2. You call us dogs, why don't you just go die for israel already in some desert shithole?
The quicker you leave germany, the better. You are the problem. Get out.

>>32277261
We have a bunch of them here in the Netherlands.

>>32285146
> Everyone in Europe who is interested in anime or vtubers speaks and understands English
That's completely wrong you have no idea. Maybe for the northen part of europe like you said yeah, sure. But the latin part? Good one. Be it Italy, France, Spain or Portugal, people first and foremost seek for content in their language and only a minority of nerds will bother with an anime if it's not translated in their language.

People overwhelmingly search for "XXXX episode 3 vostfr" and similar. I've had my stand in anime conventions for years and no one care about stuff in English beside hardcore fans. If you get someone interested in a manga they'll give up when you tell them it's only translated in English. People don't even know much about the existence of vtubers since they can't watch a vtuber in their language.
It's also due to the fact that there is already so much translated so why bother with English or the few untranslated stuff? Spanish is widespread inthe world, France represents about 40% of the European market for manga.

>>32287629
>>32274590
People just keep going outside it's a plague.

>>32280297
>"fuck other languages I only want to learn my countries and im proud of my lack of knowledge!"
I thought you were speaking about the US for a second here

>>32281868
>>32281920
There are already many indie eastern european vtubers, even russian ones.

>>32280181
>Kiara wanted to do Eurovision sort of as a joke
>Suddenly got idea for Eurovtuberision
>This would mean permissions for a bunch of indies, does Australia count, is Israel the guest country? How will the voting work?
It just ended up being too much work

>>32277261
>>32274590
The biggest anime convention in the world (beside comiket is you consider it's one) is literally in Europe with over 250K attendees
https://gamerant.com/biggest-anime-conventions-in-the-world/
https://animepattern.com/blogs/blog/top-10-biggest-anime-conventions-in-the-world

>>32277208
if you want hololive discount go kawaii, for more diverse stuff check connect, basically

>>32279404
yes? In 10 years half of Europe will be Muslim too, so the statement is true.

>>32279141
maybe if you are from scandi or netherlands.
i can guarantee you that most people in spain, france, italy don't speak english at a communicative level/

>>32280525
>superchats is what matters to vtubers
LMAO welcome to /vt/ tourist!

>>32274667
>talks shit about americans
>envious of american vtubers
>envious of american timezones
>envious of america in general
Every time. You Europoors can't help but broadcast how much you wish you were American

>>32291669
I heard that 10 years ago. They are still a minority. Most of their population can be gathered in one medium sized city. It is literally anywhere from 5 to 10% of the population of major countries.

>>32274590
Maybe try some Italian chuuba?

>>32292255
>envious of american vtubers
Asian-Canadians are Americans now? Holy kek.

>>32292332
Canada is just America 2 with some French people in the middle. And it's the same timezone. Wouldn't expect a Yuro to know that considering they get educated in shacks made of straw and shit

>>32285205
That's just your country, see >>32277261
Especially France Italy and Spain are full of weebs.
Hell, they even get a dedicated part in that list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga_outside_Japan#France

>>32279189
>UK
>95%
>data from 2012
i wonder how low it is now
probably 60%

>>32292675
It's weird how both Japan and France love each other so much, it feels so random and yet.

>>32274590
Too many languages, too few people, too different timezones.

>>32292843
They love the romanticized version of Paris but it's also the reason for the Paris Syndrome.

>>32284398
Last time I watched Wactor they were barely able to speak Spanish, and they were obviously not native speakers. Some of them have to use google translate. Which is weird because they advertised them as Spanish speaking chuubas.

>>32292983
Every time without fault, someone will immediately bring this up, so I started looking into it.
But it's actually retarded and overblown. We're talking about 20 cases a year out of 1.1 millions japanese tourists, so 0.002%, what a plague.

Yeah of course there is some romanticization going on (honestly the same for weebs going to Japan), but this syndrom is specifically about おしゃれなフランス文化 , and affects rich women in their 20s/30s who think that the capital of Fashion will have everyone wearing Louis Vuitton and stuff in the street.

>>32294576
>everyone wearing Louis Vuitton and stuff in the street
Who the hel is that poor that they can't afford even one little Louis Vuitton bag though? You can get some for barely over a grand. Really speaks to how poor people are there.