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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>54,023: Pekora (Hololive)>36,151: Rion (Nijisanji)>31,878: Miko (Hololive)>22,846: Suisei (Hololive)>18,732: Akina (Nijisanji)>18,035: Reid (Neo Porte)>17,741: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>15,650: Koyori (Hololive)>15,128: Gura (Hololive)>13,691: Mio (Hololive)>12,462: Korone (Hololive)>11,530: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,727: Towa (Hololive)>10,681: Ame (Hololive)>10,618: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,554: Towa (Hololive)>10,157: Nose (VSPO)
>why the Chicago School of Economics is a terrible idea.Isnt that more holoen since their management feels more laissez faire compared to nijien
anyone keep stats how often each holomem has collabed with each other hololmem?
>>32241161People don't want "Meta play." They want "Optimal play."To jump to video games for a second, I'll use fucking, Smash Bros, that's easy, most people know what Smash Bros is. There's a reason why people think, let's go with the obvious example for this and talk about Smash 4. There's a reason why people think shit like "Captain Falcon doing optimal combo strings for hype plays" was rad, but people fucking DESPISED Bayonetta. People want to see optimal play, but no one fucking likes meta-chasing faggots. Literally, in Smash Bros.' case.
Pomu = myth tier
>>32241519>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY151x: Hololive83x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER30x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Final reminder for the day that Pekora will never be sexy
>>32241553Please stop posting this you're going to make Vox upset
>nijifriends say NijiEN is inclining>Vox says NijiEN is reclining. Who do I believe? I can't believe Kobo+Tempus actually did a number on his psyche. Someone should tell him to stop browsing 4chan
>>32241553
>>32241553>>32241610
>>32241609Vox only said "Vox is reclining".
>>32241609>spoilerWait, what?
>>32241569>Pomu playing a buffed game is on the same level as the debuff queens of holoen playing a game on overlap hell fucking grim
>>32241569nahone
>>32241668>Selen is holoEN tier now
>>32241295From the Holostars announcement back in 2019https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000072.000030268.html>今まで、「ホロライブ」では女性配信者のみをサポートし、男性配信者をサポートしておりませんでしたが、それでも多数の方からのお問い合わせや応募があり、男性配信者の方々の当社への期待を強く感じると共に、VTuber業界を支える一社として男性VTuber市場の立ち上がりへ貢献する責任を感じました。>We have supported only female distributors and not male distributors in "Hololive" until now, but we still received many inquiries and applications from male distributors, which made us feel strongly about their expectations of us and our responsibility to contribute to the emergence of the male VTuber market as a company that supports the VTuber industry.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPki1_ydfU
>>32241519
>>32241609>tfw the NijiCN schizo was Vox having a menhera moment the whole time
>>32241609Vox said that vox is recliningbut you might also be rights since that chart posted some days ago showed thatn nijien peaked at may/june is has been on a slow recline then
>>32241606The fuck does he have to be upset aboutProportionally it would be like Miko or Subaru going on a rant about how bad their numbers are
>>32241686Homo EN > Niji EN > Holo ENWhat a fucking world we live in, can someone direct me back to my timeline please?
>>32241676From the last thread:https://youtu.be/xRMIFwhveeU?t=1700> there's a literal number that you can pay attention to> like the score in a video game> high score = you're being extra funny, low score = you're not very funny.> there's a lot of min-maxing, overlaps and meta shit relating to streams to increase numbers - it's exhausting.> can't ignore the numbers because he stresses about it too much.> "If I'm ignoring bad things, I'm giving myself more problems" is what I think.> Industry is cutthroat (immediately rephrases).> "Around April, I was the top dog for a bit. We were growing faster than everyone else."> "We're still doing well, but not quite as well as we were."> just being there once makes you want to do it again. "It happened. Go and get it back" - hence pressure.
>>32241609>>32241736>Noor/Niji Intern was vox having a menhera moment hereI will now partake and believe this rrat
https://twitter.com/saku_sasaki/status/1565354902762622979Bully Panda found a new toy lmao
>>32241519>>32241724
>>32239619>Suisei & Sora don't want gachi audience & want their ''Idol'' brand doesn't lean on extreme otaku-ish idol.I don't know about Sora, but Suisei NEVER said that she doesn't want gachikois, she just said that she will not pander to them. She knows that that's something normal, that it will happen no matter what.
>>32236408hey you almost had it manyou almost had it
>>32241519>>32241822
>>32241832It is just homobeggars trying to make the every holos sound like they hate unicorns.
>>32241609We know their managers are huge numberfags and send them charts and shit on Discord, and he's naming specific time periods when they were stronger or weaker which probably came from themIf they're actually pressuring the guy who's #1-2 in the branch until he rants about it on stream that's kinda nuts
>>32241548That's a bit of a different thing, anon, the idea is that the Chicago School is the place which introduced the concept of "Shareholder Value Theory" into the economy, whereas before the widespread adoption of this theory, the markets operated on a "Social Integration" theory of value, where the objective of a company was to make it as integrated into the community of customers as possible, which would thereby insure long-lasting profits. That's why you see shit like in the 1950s, nearly every company would position itself as a family staple, branding was everywhere, and corporations tried to make their image as clean as possible, and worked with communities when they could. Profit-seeking, of course, but limited by their public perception."Shareholder Value Theory," in competition with that, believed that any company doing "socially aware business" was robbing shareholders of potential profits. They posited that the ONLY goal of a company should be this:>BIGGER NUMBERS.Shareholders should be given the maximum stock price, because they own the company, and any company CEO that goes against that value is, in the eyes of the Chicago School, "robbing value" from the people who own them.This is what drove the markets up until fairly recently, and is still a strong theory in upper echelons, although "Stakeholder Theory" is more recently coming to dominance. But the point was, any system which encourages "BIGGER NUMBER AT ALL COST, MUST MAKE THE GROWTH CONTINUE" will forego community integration and the well-being of both the consumers, and the people involved in production, which has resulted in Nijisanji EN's consistent case of "number rot."
>>32241553I just wants to see Iofi & Risu to incline so badly...
>>32241519>>32241880
>>32241973I want to see Iofi and Risu recline.Into my bed. If you understand what it is I'm putting down.
IT HAS BEEN HOURS STOP POSTING THE STUPID FUCKING RABBIT IVE SEEN HALF THESE IMAGES LIKE FOUR TIMES OR MORE IN THE LAST MONTH
>>32241832Sora makes it very hard to not become a gachikoi whenever i visit her stream
>>32241519>>32241991
>>32241973sadly they don't though
>>32241519>>32242014
>>32242015>tfw If Risu would not have been accepted in hololive there was a chance that she could have been my mail order brideI hate cover
>>32242027 (me)Especially her Zelda streams
>>32241553Time to send this to Vox and his sisters on Twitter and Tiktok alongside a clip of his menhara numberfagging
>>32242023kys fagoon
>>32241791He’s talking about subs. He never ever fell below 2k/day for his whole career >until he called Shi’a mother a whoreThen his subs growth walked backwards on b2 and his YouTube subs growth ground to a halt. For a while he was the fastest growing vtuber across the industry, then Salome happened and BTFO of him in 14 days, then Kobo happened and likewise. I get his point, it’s the same as Coco’s point in 2021. >Being “one of the biggest” is no consolation when you’re not #1.
>>32241519>>32242082
>>32241519>>32242054
>>32241832>that it will happen no matter whatThis. Twitch whoretubers are a good example. They definitely don't pander to gachis, yet many of them throw their money at them.
>>32241815>Dude got ignored so many times he had to start leeching off NijiJPs
>>32241969
>>32242178Ollie ignoring him is pretty funny.
>>32242104He's literally the #1 male english vtuber by average, I don't think external perception of his numbers is the issueI genuinely think their managers are terminal numberniggers and are driving them all insane pushing them to some unattainable target like beating Gura
>>32241553AIEEEE SAVE ME CHINA
>>32241519>>32242172
>>32241815I hope she bullies him into graduation.
>>32242178hahahaha
Isn't these numbers kinda horrid for a 4 person collab with Mysta, Shu, Uki & the BIGGEST EN vtuber Selen?
>>32242215>He's literally the #1 male english vtuber by averageIsnt that Mysta or Shoto now?
>>32242126i am not a fagoon
>>32241815Panda no!
>>32242178Fucking hell, i thought it was just a handful of times he tried this
>>32242178> Ollie> Ignoredhow in the fuck
>>32241519>>32242221
Why doesn't Vox just do more karaoke? Sisters love view farming that shitSlap a karaoke at the end of ever y week and those numbers are gonna go up up up
>>32242178>Gura (Aug 24)I hate this faggot so goddamn much.
>>32242257I don't know about shoto but the chart of average is literally the post that started that reply chain anon, he's #1 on youtube
>>322421781/16 responses, that's actually embarresiing.
>>32242215Cant they just think they beat her already on SC? Didnt they talk about having earn more than HoloJP in their leak? Then they can mental gymnastic themselves into that being beating her once and for all and be happy with it.
>>32242234>selen>food collabkek
* EN BLEEDOUT TALLY DEBUT *see >>32238226 for further detailsTally is ordered like regular cripple tally but bleedout (and retention/growth) are noted.bracketed number is the comparison point and determines the bleedout score, first number in parentheses is the content finale number, second number after / is the bleed)09-01-23[14893] Gura HoloEN (14368 / 525)[11,530] Mysta NijiEN (10134 / 1396)[10,312] Ame HoloEN (5686 / 4626) **stream ran almost 7 hours, past 1 am for all NA timezones**[8,986] Mysta NijiEN (7870 / 1116)[8,886] Ame HoloEN (8621 / 265)[3,700] Bae HoloEN (7015 / -3315) **received 2 funnels / action buffs around 2 hours in**[8,595] Ina HoloEN (7245 / 1250)[5,811] Shu NijiEN (6684 / -873) **stream grew from first 90 mins**[7,689] Vox NijiEN (5864 / 1825)[5,446] Selen NijiEN (6201 / -755) **late and early peaks achieved via raid and bled 1000+ each**[6,187] IRyS HoloEN (6008 / 179) [6,628] Ame HoloEN (6009 / 619)[5,268] Magni StarsEN [4925] (5268 / -343)[5,128] Ike NijiEN (3439 / 1689)[5,024] Alban NijiEN (3190 / 1834)1st - Ame HoloEN 46262nd - Alban NijiEN 18343rd - Vox NijiEN 18254th - Ike NijiEN 16895th - Mysta NijiEN 1396Retention mentions:Bae +3315 , beneficiary of funnels and fanbase / timezone matchShu +873 , endurance until goal completedMagni +343 ramped up as stream entered west coast prime time
>>32242201
>>32242215>He's literally the #1 male english vtuber by averageNo he’s not. Shoto outranks him in August by a large enough margin to bridge the Twitch-Youtube gap
>>32242279>>32241519
>>32242178That time he tweeted at Debi just to get ??????????? as a response was probably one of the funniest things to happen in the past couple of months.
>>32242322
>>32242215It's Mysta now and a whole ((((power gap)))) with Shoto who gets his asmr buff numbers regularly
>>32242314>Cant they just think they beat her already on SCBecause just like most of the people here after the merch leaks, sc's are a fucking joke
>>32242342Twitch streamers are kinda playing a different game, I don't think there's much value in comparing themGetting involved with a big clique can boost someone to the moon, but the numbers are temporary, once you fall out of favor they'll disappear as fast as they came
>>32241815REN NO YOU'LL GET BULLIED INTO JOINNG A DIFFRENT CORPO
>>32242491What merch leaks? For holo and niji?
>>32242215Beating Gura is fucking impossible, a 10k floor is not happening for any niji. Hell I'd say Ironmouse has a better floor than all of them because whatever she does tends to get near 10k
>>32242444
>>32242215I'm pretty sure Paul Li just pulls the charts from /here/ since he wouldnt have to do any actual work and use it as talking points with the talents.Also someone needs to do a complete writeup of Shoto leeching Luxiem and pulling the ultimate pump and dump
>>32242314you don't get it anon.with this mentality, there's no end to it unless you're above the competition in literally every metric.and by chance if you get there, even AFTER that you will simply feel empty.
>>32242528holo merch numbers leakim assuming it also works that way for niji merch
>>32242507Too bad Holo doesn't adopt Nijis anymore and there's no other corpo that hires males
>>32242528We were able to get Holo merch sales for a while from their site, I'm pretty sure Peko sold for over a million dollars on one of her runs.We sadly lost that when some fucker ran and posted it on Reddit and cover fixed their shit.
>>32242178>even olliegrim
>>32242270It's outdated toohttps://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1562933650617942016https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1565025366401757184 (actually got a reply)literally 2 hours agohttps://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1565413410116091904
>>32242491I wish people could have shut up about that and not leaked it to reddit, I really want actual numbers for dino plushie...
>>32242542No one in Western vtubing apart from Gura has a 10k floor
>>32242319Okay, so you asked about transferring it last thread for readability's sake, and I have to say, I think the format is throwing people off. Especially splitting it up like that.As some suggestions, this is what I'd do to make it more clear:>Gura (HoloEN): [14,893 90 Min. Peak| 14,368 End| 525 Bleed]>Mysta (NijiEN): [11,530 90 Min. Peak| 10,134 End| 1,396 Bleed]I'm skeptical of the merit, but I can see how it could be interesting, so I figure if you want to make it a bit more readable, that's one way you could get it across. You'd have to explain what it is more often than not, though, it's a bit confusing of a metric at first glance. Peak of CCV in the first 90 minutes, then Peak of CCV in the timeframe the stream ends, excluding long wrap-ups or Spacha reading segments. That's a bit much to explain, so it's worth reiterating it in simple words when you do it.
>>32242543
>>32242588VOMS...
>>32241720>believing the "public announcement"Anyone knows that Holostars exists becuase Yagoo wanted bros and he felt envious towards holomen because they gained friends when they join hololive, thus he created stars with his own pocket money.
>>32242616Yikes. I'll rely on the sisters on the doxxsite to make a tally of their leech
>>32241565To use a direct example. The best way to get high numbers on Twitch? Just re-stream shows with minimal commentary. That's how Hasan inclined, that's how XQC inclined for a while. It's dogshit content and loathsome of the streamer. I note down the number but treat it with contempt.
>>32242178>mumei, taggingThe fuck, what did I miss in the 2 months I was gone
>>32241706No celebrations or outfits this month. Prepare for the drop.
>>32242711my boys will get to play golf with yagoo one day. i still believe.
>>32241842the true sign of recline was that it took this long for a reply
>>32242319Your ranking is by maximum absolute bleed right? You could consider doing an inverse ranking for best retention, and also proportional calculations for retention calculated relative to stream size. Also these are good suggestions: >>32242647
>>32242528Mostly Holo thanks to bad coding on their site, but iirc we had some NijiJPs too, like Lize.
>>32242775>Lazulight 3D debuts
>>32241670And yet he said "we".
So 2 straight ojou gold huh
>>32242767https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1554124586635374593
>>32242841
>>32242616if these are the best replies he can manage, no wonder he's reclining.
>>32242767>he missed the mumei tag incidentHe tagged mumei out of no where because their roommates ran in the same circles. Total retard moment and he looked like a clown when she didn't respond.
>>32242767Ooh you missed many kino moments anon>Avenger hololive>Sana with the save of a lifetime>ABSOLUTE DOG RACE WEEK OF TEMPUS VS ILUNA
>>32242767TL;DR>Risotto wants clout>he tries talking to Holos for clout>this goes badly>good news for Risotto, however:>he is (Kevin Bacon-style) connected to a HoloEN member>how will he try and get some of her clout>reply to a tweet of hers?>too simple.>Just TAG HER OUT OF NOWHERE FOR ATTENTION WITHOUT ANY REASON TO IN-CHARACTER>RELYING SOLELY ON HIS KEVIN-BACON STYLE CHAIN OF CONNECTIONS TO HER TO WORK>it does not work>everyone who sees it knows what you're doing>you get ignored by every girl for the rest of your time AND lose clout
>>32242767YOU MISSED THE RETURN OF HOLOSUMMER
>>32242932Also:>Cry about just wanting Unity when people call you retarded.Just ignore the fact he never responded to any smaller vtuber.
>>32242542You can never dethrone Gura and Iron. They're the face of vtubing on both platforms for EN. Gura literally lives rent free on a different platform with twitch juicers heads, either it be to cringe at or faun on like with OTV basically free advertising her thanks to Sykunno.
>>32242015>>32242087Obligatoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOOf5RHLO5I
What if in an alternate timeline mumei responds....
>>32242211Holy shit how is that possible, Ollie responds to almost anyone
>>32242767>Missed HoloSummer Live getting 200k in the last 2 minutes during SSSShit was so kino
>>32242851she has a live?
>>32242288Just shows he's extremely new, most people in the industry don't even try that anymore.
>>32241519>>32242150
>>32242647>>32242823I think once I can make a sheet / excel then I can put in formulas to quickly spit out the interesting numbers, it's not quite the same niche as 'true avg ccv' or the one guy who does ccv - supers so I can see it having some value in at least livening up dead hours with discussion of yesterday's events
>>32243053god, that was incredible.
>>32243057Don't think it's been announced yet, but people are speculating cause Botan's outfit reveal is early in the day and not prime time, but who knows.
>>32242982>Cry about just wanting Unity when people call you retarded.I still don't fucking understand these people, man.I get "Hololive unity." Hololive girls are all in one company, no shit, makes sense.But fucking "VTuber unity?" Or in this case, specifically, "Big Corpo VTuber unity?"Why the fuck do people think that being accepted into ONE Corporation's company means you should have an integration with ANOTHER, COMPETING Corporation's workers? This isn't a fucking "Steel Worker's Union" or some shit, what the fuck is the idea there?
>>32241519>>32243086
>>32242836>Covid cases rising
>>32243115Another Kino moment in this thread was the 30 minutes of Salome Niji relay Karaoke that started 2 minutes before midnight and only lost by like 2k to Noel. That was an amazing horse race.
>>32243129Twitch culture
>>32243116Would love to have both events on separate days but well
>>32241519>>32243140
>>32242692He'll get a Starmie shota avatar there
>>32243129People think everything they like should interact with everything else they like, it's truly bizarre. Wanting life to be one giant crossover event so everything turns into a boring samey jumble.
>>32243003>I could have had my own tree rat wifeFuck you cover
>>32243129"Unity" sounds nice, especially for virtue signalers with absolutely no investment in either chuuba.
>>32241519>>32243229
>>32242863Wait this is real?
>>32243315>>32241519
>>32243364Ye, iirc from today's Rust stream
I think I might have consumed a little too much peko art today
>>32243129Remembered when I was a kid and I wanted my favourite minecraft youtube to collab with another, yea these people never grew out of that stage
>>32241519>>32243356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrFKiKm-gxQI know Ina doesn't care about numbers, but the fact she does cooking streams that are audio only is such a missed opportunity.
>>32243129Imagine screaming "STREAMER UNITY" as some sort of ideal to aspire to.Imagine saying that unironically to the twitch audience.
>>32242883>>Avenger hololiveThat month was amazing - so many individual holos against the Salome then-juggernaut
>>32243391It may be my inner /x/ speaking but she's not teasing something right?
>>32241519Why the fuck Rust buff doesn't work in EN
>>32243364Yea, pretty sure Mori has also used it. It's something they can pin on their 3d models.
>>32243399PekOverdose is not too good, I had planned to stop for that thread but other anons kept that up.>>32241519>>32243412
>>32243426I wonder how hard she'll bleed once Fauna starts since she's doing this shit. Really don't know why the fuck she's so paranoid.
>>32243447You mean like what Kson's been doing for almost a year now?
>>32243462probably a "coincidence"but with Hololive you can never tell
>>32243447Isn't that what ironmouse does? Except in her case she's basically the top dog vtuber-wise on Twitch so it's seen as fine.
>>32243426Yeah, I was hoping it'd be handcam. Audio-only means it's a strictly core audience affair.
>>32241791If he feels this way, still being relatively successful and maybe 25% off his peak, imagine how Salome feels?
>>32243454>spider-chamaI laughed every time
>>32243454>Miko holding the line the best she could with WWE. >Salaome still managed to create a sizeable lead>ENTER: Pekora is back from her break sending Holo into overdrive, managing to tie the month.Pure Kino.
>>32243511Ironmouse seems more like "we should all be friends" type deal, not uniting the entirety of the streaming scene.
>>32241519>>32243479
>>32243447I think there's probably some turbofags out there who would. The rah rah kumbaya types
>>32243462They have a set of 3d props that all of the 3d models can use. Beetle horn, mask, helmet, probably more I'm forgetting.But also, never take your meds. This is yagoo directly telling you that Rye is a lock.
>>32243493How long are her cooking streams usually anyway? I guess it's not gonna be more than a couple of hours max.
>>32242144Much like when Coco thought it, it's a stupid point. It's good to be proactive about content and growth, but the need to be No.1 is a poison.
>>32241519>>32243563
>>32243597EN3 is never going to happen. Just let it go. You'll be happier that way. Don't hold on to false hope.
Why did holoX recline in general? Koyori is the only one that inclined, Iroha stagnated even though she stream almost every day too. Chloe declined due to ghost yab? Lui is just boring but why can't she at least get a 6 to 7k floor? Why don't Laplus stream? She shouldn't expect people to watch her through space, twitcast and twitch right?
Ready your Oujo lewd this month boys. It may be the only time we can do so this year
>>32241519>>32243385
>>32242584It might, but Niji merch is some cookie cutter, cheap garbage.
>>32241519>>32243646
>>32243731But do they sell as good as covers though?
>>32243511Ironmouse is big enough to create her own artificial bubble of unity by interacting with basically whoever she wants to. It doesn't mean those people will ever interact with each other however.
>>32241519>>32243743Me in her mouth.
Thats a Z... right? Also>her beautiful flat graphic is goneFuck you Susan
>>32241519>>32243779
>>32243704I'm bursting at the seam already
>>32243597I'm just holding hope that the empty september week something happens. Whether she makes it or not is not my concern but I'm on the side of Ryeschizo, and will shitpost about it if I can.
>>32242288I think the Pekora one is even better because he tried it on one of those "reply time" tweets that are supposed to be Pekora replying to random fans.
>>32243684No one will maintain debut numbers forever. People will settle into whatever range they're going to be eventually. Same thing will happen to EN3 or JP7 ect.
>>32243850>>32241519
>>32242616The stars are probably the only ones in Holopro that won't ignore most of the nijis.
>>32241519>>32243904
>>32243770doesnt need to since they look cheap as fuck and fans will still buy them
Does the hololive ondo count as a vtuber orisong for the numbers?
>>32243994song does, MV doesn't.
>>32243994the songmaker guy will have to decide I supposethere ARE VTubers in it, even if they aren't dancing
This is like...Niji ID levels..
>taking more than 30 mins to make eggdrop soupIs Ina okay?
>>32243848Yup
>>32243994I mean the only singers in it are vtubers, even if the MV isn't.
>>32243473>Mumei is inconsistent with numbers >IRyS has a hard 12k ceiling no matter what it is outside of birthdays/anniversary>Bae>debuffson>Mori>Orange womanGee i wonder why?
>>32243994It's up to the dude, assuming you're talking about the youtube video guy. But I assume it'll be in.
reddit is melting down again because someone posted an actual reasonable take about homo collabs
>>32244249don't keep us waiting anon
>>32244249Image board, post images.
>>32244249Post image and link if you want to talk about it, /#/ always eats up those reddit drama screenshots especially if oboretai is whining
>>32241519>>32243844https://twitter.com/chet_ray/status/1254783391586594816
>>32244249image and link doko?
>>32244284>>32244290>>32244300>>32244322https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/x3i99a/witch_hunts_suck_logical_and_truthful_dialogue/not even 1h old post kek
>>32243684Chloe's ghost saga is an issue, but CCV-wise, her problem is that she doesn't focus on her strengths (singing) and doesn't finish gamesLaplus is a fucking mystery. She apparently does shit on her RM account, still does mostly 1 hour streams, and seems to stream on twitch/twitter/etc. half the time rather than on YT. Yeah, she's frequent visitor to the holo main channel and sponsorship magnet, but she's hardly the one such holo.
>>32241609>>32241791
>>32244310>anime animators are nousagis tooat this point there are a nousagis everywhere in Japan
>>32243473>ENs streaming at 7 amGee I wonder why
>>32242178jesas
>>32244393>reddit is melting down again17 comments...
hmmm
>>32241519>>32244310
>>32244393Well that was disappointing. I thought the Oboro fuck was having a meltdown again.
>>32244483for a 45 minute post that is kind of impressive for the holo reddit these days
>>32241519>>32244527
>>32244525this is why i like median more
>>32244393upvoted all his posts to make the beggars seethe lol
>>32244393>>32244483>>32244555>hololive fans are all redditorscan't make this up
>>32244555This is true. Even holomems shilling get as much as 50 comments and 1-2k up votes. Drama is what gets them active as always if you look at Kronii debacle
>>32244555hololive reddit is reclining...
Since we are on the topic of reddit anyway and it's dead hours.It's nice to see they at least recognize Peko for carrying the Rust war.
>>32244625>Ina with already with a higher median than most EN Rust's latests streamsKek
>>32241519>>32244580
>>3224472310k upvotes jesas. And as always. Clipnigger behavior
>>32244395La+ definitely feels like a case of missed potential if you ask me. I think she could still right the ship if se really wanted too but I doubt she would at this point
>>32244393From what I read is basically:>Dude gives a good reason on why even be a fan of Hololive if you are against their work ethic and also why shame the unicorns when the other side is just as bad if not worse.>Reddit proceeds to dismiss him and even call him shit trying to justify their actionsIf there's anything EN3 needs is someone who is actually a Holofan and is willing to keep up with idol culture because at this rate is going to push away the fans and kill their numbers (as is currently happening with Kronii), and also someone who hates Reddit.
The hell even is this kinda Z?
>>32244851she edted the "idol culture" thing lmao
>>32244877Literally Gura...
>>32244917the EN special, the ZAW, thanks to susan i guess.
>>32244918Pretty sure the idol thing was a reply to that original comment from her.
>>32244917Susan has been experimenting with fun new varieties of Z today, one of the NijiEN guys had one where there was a vertical drop just before it so the Z was sitting in a trench
>>32244851>reddit awardWHYYY
>>32244917Needs to set the threshold pretty low to filter it.
>>32244959Unironically we need another Gura clone (Mumei half worked, just she's friends with the antithesis. Bae)
>>32245023>Why do we still like giving (You) to shitposters?
>>32244917Since Vrabi didn't detect it. It counts
>>32244877EN3 will have management enforced "will collab with males and outsiders" disclaimers in their debut
Give me one fuckin 1! reason why holo girls should not colab with guys?? You have nothing except some plea to idol culture which is just a way to hide your insecurities.
please /vt/ there has to be some actual juicy drama beyond this boring kronii shit. I believe in you, you can find it.
>>32244877I think there's too much doomposting on this topic, I don't think it'll ever become a popular thing in EN to collab frequently or even really ever with the dudes. Especially since it always sparks a shitstorm if your name isn't Mori or Bae. What talent would want that, there's no advantage to them in particular from collabing with Tempus, not like they're friends or would bring huge numbers. So why bother?Even Kronii has been saying she won't do it again unless invited which sounds like a soft way to say it won't be happening.
>>32245095Yeah, I can see that happening but if Astel and Lamy show me something is that fighting management is always a good idea. Having wits to challenge the managers would be ideal.
>>32243099You said you wanted an Excel spreadsheet?Done.https://litter.catbox.moe/tcoe5v.xlsx
>>32245098Go elsewhere.
>>32244483
>>32245111The only juicy thing outside from the kronii one is the hard doxx of the boys that was posted in the nest after the collab and even that was boring
>>32245222Clap clap
>>32245098I dont care if they collab with males but dont pretend to get the best of both worlds
>>32245159>Adding Pippa on the bottomI had a good laugh, but thank you very much, once she gets to 5k I'm sure I'll be the one bleeding tears
>>32245098Cgdct. I love the boys too but I don't want to mix for exactly the reason that the fans will clash with the unicorns and the homobeggars. Make it upfront like Bae who outright said they want to collab with stars since the beginning since the coomerbaiting and yuri shipping the girls did didn't help in them cultivating a parasocial fanbase>chart made by Kroniis
Enna follows the pattern of a lot of hololive girls1) Buff-stream, after buff-stream, after buff-stream>amogus, ringfit, sims, handcam, collab.....etc2) Lots of breaks in between (compared to the other niji girls that is)3) Very low superchat compared to viewershipThis is very much the same with all the holoEN girls.
>>32245115Fair, /vt/ always assume worst case scenario but I can't shake the feeling they are trying to change everything in Holo (not the talents, but rather the fans excluding the obvious talents) to be more to their needs. I already lost comics and Vidya is on that route, forgive me for being a schizo but I can just see the signs of something building to that path.
What pisses me off about reddit or twitter "holofans" is the fucking double think around gachikoi and unicorns. They're all YASSS SLAY QUEEN when someone tells them off or pisses them off, but crickets when one of the many jps go "collabing with men? bitch you best not even suggest I would debase myself in such a manner I am idol". Like they ignore that Hololive are not some poor birds caged by unicorns, but seductresses wooing the fuckers.
>>32245235hard doxx as in address, name etc. or just PL stuff?
>>32245199I accept your concession.
>>32245115It's always doomposting, people want to act like literally every next step is into an abyss that can't be recovered from, because they're blind to reality: That is to say, that things in the future will not always be bad.
>>32245263You have a lot more confidence than me if you're willing to download and open an excel file from catbox given how much stupid shit you can embed in one
>>32245111The only other thing is Ame calling Gura a fucking bitch under her breath right before ending stream but that doesn't have much numbers implications
>>32245335supposedly their real names but no confirmation yet
>>32245095Unfortunately you are right. Literally happened with id3.
>>32245098I don't like it
>>32245362holy fuck is this really the pathetic lows we're at for drama. please, nijiEN - I know you read these threads - leak discord logs again.
>>32245357You can embed shit in excel documents?I never knew. I've only used them for finance table tracking and shit that's similar.
>>32245095Won’t be surprised if this was the case or they specifically look for only girls who are willing to collab with the stars.
>>32245318And what a coincidence Enna has a very high ccv average, just like the hololive girls.
>>32245381I didnt know ollie was id3
>>32245324unironically this ordeal with kroni should be your anchor, the moment a non-declared homo adjacent talent did a collab the world fell down, on one of the most mentally frail holoEN, so i can only imagine the discussion between them behind close door.Expect 1-2 talent from EN3 on the bae-calli wavelenght and the other 3-4 going the SNO route.
>>32245318>be Chinese>talk in Chinese>get Chinese Luxiem-adjacent fansOnly Bae can do this in Hololive and with China's hostile attitude it's very unlikely.
>>32245264This is not true as shown by kronii's red superchats who are in support of male collabs.Stop coping. unicorn money is literal change for them.the fact that you try using money as argument and blackmail is funny though.
Holo EN management is either- in full support for Homo collabs, not caring about idol culture or unicorns- doesn't know about idol culture and unicorns- actively trying to remove idol culture and unicornspick your poison
>>32245095if they do then they are literally doa
>>32245531Enna typically streams at 2am china time anon.....
>>32245547go back to twitter
>>32245328If it makes you feel better, the double standard is now imported to the EN side as well, since no one gets mad about Mumei literally going>Yeah, I joined Hololive because it was an all-girls agency, I kinda like it that way
>>32245098You don't throw away one thing that makes you different from concurency
>>32245474Omegay's ego demands that he succeed where JP management failed and make le based unified EN branch because that's what westerners want, right?Fucking homofags saviorfagging the JP sharts lead to this.
>>32245393then maybe stop projecting, cuck?
>>32245111/vt/ is reclining
>>32245353name a hobby or entertainment where not gatekeeping made it better instead of worse
>>32245111The only really juicy drama right now isPEKORA BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEY, WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?
>>32245565>doesn't know about idol culture and unicornsI have a feeling its this since they thought that Queen was the band and not a cover
>>32245594eigo jouzu
>>32245634did he died?
>>32245634A FUCKING MONKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEbros, I hope he's not dead....
>>32244393Okay but it's funny how that OPs profile is filled with thousands of posts about AMC stock.
>>32245565Or >Let the talents themself decide how to handle it, just like JP.
>green whore can't even match Ina's waiting room numbers She's not even getting 10k
>>32245606No
>>32245565HoloEN management is paid by Anycolor to destroy hololive from inside
>>32244393Kill yourself, faggot. Post images or don't say anything. I'm not going to Reddit for that.
>>32245565probably the first one, they know Tempus are unable to grow by themselves and Omega doesn't want his pet-project to failI mean just look how well being Kobo's toy has worked for Regis
>>32245723Keep seething at male collabs then.
>>32245621The entire Video Game scene was created because of literal fucking nobodies jury-rigging shit together in their backyards and garages, and the effect of gate-keeping it created the California Clique that you see today, there's the first thing that popped into my mind. Gatekeeping behind degrees and big money turned it into something worse over time.
I actually want them to collab with the boys more now since it has a chance of triggering a bjork fan level of unicorn who might stalk the boys
>>32245111Just post funny vox tweets.
>>32245703grim
>>32245708Oh hey buddy, did you enjoy the watch a long yesterday? I personally found it to be pretty Kino, even if it is number poison.
>>32243129They're children and idiots. They don't even start to think that time and money are limited and their tiny lizard brain just wants to see things they like together regardless of consequence.
>>32245787I will
>>32245461Excel has a list of historical vulnerabilities a million miles long and is one of the most common vectors for malware, that's why it constantly nags you not to open files you don't trust
>>32245739I think Tempus is omegas last chance of managing something so theres a lot at stake for him if it fails
>>32245797Will the letter bomb work this time or it will fail again?
>green whore not even 2kholy recline!
>>32245565My god I cant believe they are so fucking incompent, you have to just literally copy what JP did, why try to bring something new when is clearly not wanted
>>32245570What's all this squiggle shit? That's from her last stream (6k ringfit). JP or Chinese? I can't tell the difference.
>>32245877don't make me bet against the boys...
>>32245843Good.
>have this discussion in the last thread>completely fucking settled and everyone who's arguing told to fuck off>thread dies>new thread>the same fucking retards from last time came back to make the exact same fucking arguments while pretending nobody saw them do this exact same shit last time>half of the posts are so fucking atrociously ESL, to the point of being unable to say anything coherently(except, for some reason, for buzzwords, that always get spelt out perfectly), that it's either being done on purpose, or made by the most illiterate retards on EarthI just don't fucking get it man
>>32245898some unicorn supposedly found their hard doxx so it might be worse than that im afraid
>>32245906Some jp some chinese and a little korean
>>32245906chinese
>>32242836october
>>32245946This thread is always dogshit around this time. Today it's just especially bad because all the Kronii schizos are using it as a proxy thread to argue their dumb war.
don't give a shit about the Kronii stuff. What's up with Marine?
>>32245111slow dayonly other thing going on is amesame going pekomiko
>>32245946Bold of you to assume anons read the previous thread.
>>32245906Mostly english. Some japanese. A couple chinese. Some korean
>>32245946>argue with baitposters>shocked when they continue baiting even after being "defeated" by your mighty rhetorical prowess
>>32245945Thanks
>>32245899oi answer my question >>32245837I know you watched it you little spider monkey.
>>32246043I assume that they'd have to, to be able to speak just like the people from that one.
>>32246028She's hot what about it?
>>32245877Tempus doesnt even need to fail. If he indirectly harms the girls, he will be gone.
>>32245924I mean after councils lore shit failed and the debacle that is managing irys i have a feeling this is his last shot before he is delegated to just talent adjacent works.
>>32246028sued the 5ch marineschizo (a female allegedly)
>>32245906the thing that looks like a face is a chinese kaomoji i think, other than that yeah it's a mix of japanese chinese and korean
>>32245958Shit, we might get some actual problems if that's true.
>>32246028We're currently making some babies in honer of Abe, what about it? You want to watch?
>>32245264Kronies are making things like this while my fanbase looked up Japanese law to see if she would get in trouble if she sent her girlfriends uncensored nudes lolWhere did it all go wrong lol
>>32245877I hope he gets removed once and for all
>not even 5kyeah, council didn't do as well as they expected
>>32246096was he(she) dangerous?
>>32246085Welp, then he's already fucked, ain't he.
>>32245877Guy went from the HoloEN branch director to Tempus head manager. Wouldn’t be surprised if that really is the case.
why is it so hard to get 5 girls that understand what Hololive is about?
Someone asked for Gura's August members-only SCs a couple threads ago, so here goesHuge caveat: I'm didn't catch the first hour of the chat log for https://holodex.net/watch/tk0HKYnhHY8 so I'm missing at least half the SCs in it, considering how front-loaded they tend to be in streamsIf anyone has the full chat log archived for that stream, I'd appreciate itSo treat this as a lower bound - the actual sum is probably $1k or so higherTotal: ¥910,447.20 or $6,502.01So add that to her public SC total ($7,364 on playboard, probably higher on hololyzer but I'm not gonna manually sum it there)and you get about $14kSo still pretty anemic, but it really shows how much she gets from memgen SCs relative to public SCsDetails: https://rentry.org/hnzts
>>32245565>holoEN managementyou mean the talents right? its the girls perogative to collab with the starsEN the management cant force them to sack their unicorns if Gura is anything to go by.
>people making up headcanon about Omega when they don't even know who he is, what he did, or what he does now
>>32246242I think the problem is that EN management itself doesn't know what hololive is all about
>>32246177dunno. apparently their comment about marine being motherless was what triggered the suit.
>>32246242Four out of Five every time is pretty easy for them, but you always need to have a "wild card" just in case you get the golden goose:>A Coco you can put on a leash
You guys okay?
You cannot hold any people accountable for your mental illness, especially not streamers who don't know you.
>>32246180The girls literally hate omegay and dont even try to sugar coat it. They wanted him gone only for him to be placed somewhere else
>>32246244Huh, thanks for the info. That's interesting.
>>32245877I'm pretty sure Omega has been 3 different people at this point following the same guidelines laid by a table of executives, not because it was fired but the usual manager rotation there is.
>>32246290or you get someone like Bae
>>32246268if being delegated to stars after being the en dog isnt a demotion then i dont know what is
>Fauna's graph actually curving out before she even hits 5kOh Lord she might not even make the cripple tally
>>32246321Fuck off with your drama shit, nigger
>>32246311I'm so fucking tired of the same timeloop for the third day in a row.
>>32246311Came too much from all the PekoPosting and am currently continuing my 0 to Deadgod run on Isaac, anontachi
>>32246311No, I lack Sheep
Have streaming hours for Hololive in August been posted yet?
>>32246363If you projected some boyfriend -girlfriend relationship onto an anime girl streamer it is your problem. Trying to make it the girls problem is retarded. Maybe keep it to yourself instead of crying publicly about it like a bitch?
>>32245111Pekora's monkey is actually dead and she's trying to hide it
>>32246416>streaming hoursyou just want to post bait in global, don't you
>>32246422??
>>32246244She streamed almost as much in members as she did normal streams this month. 5 Rust streams1 megacollab Summer Festival1 Shill StreamMortuary Assistant and Mario Kart are the only streams she got to interact much with chat and which would normally yield much in SC.
>>32246422dcda, faggot. Go elsewhere
>>32246353Sana
>>32245111we could not talk about drama instead
>>32246361Why do you type this delusional shit every night, fauna schizo? Less than 5k for a minecraft stream without huge overlap just isn't happening, it wasn't even happening for Sana who got that much with GURA OVERLAPPING HER IN A SPLIT MINECRA POV
Why do people come to fucking /#/ to talk about Holodrama that isn't related to numbers in the actual slightest, anyways, then argue about the ethical shit of styles of Holocontent like this is /diet global/
>>32246311Why do you want to compete with Ayame for no delivery?
>>32245904>why try to bring something new when is clearly not wantedwhat do you mean?https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1548472552334376966omega knows best
>>32246485No, you go elsewhere.
>>32246360You don't even know that he was the top person in EN at any point. For all we know he's some random producer that got to handle their social media account. Being in charge of Holostars, if he even is, could be a promotion.
>>32246244So prob around a million yen total if you take into account the first Karaoke hour.
>>32246547Because half the people here treat this place as /news/
>>32246416Pecock wins once again, both for August and for the 8months by a mile. That's all you need to know.https://twitter.com/Holo_Data
>>32245565Fortunately EN management is irrelevant, so it doesn't really matter.
>>32246579You can go off of Kiara talking about Omega and genuinely seething about him harder than people in /vt/ do for that bit of context, anon.
>>32246601Drama isn't /news/. Everything that was said is already known, anything more is beating the dead horse..
>>32246601But Kronii drama for the fucking third day in a row is not /news/
>>32246547We shouldn't even be talking about council in /#/. They're shitters among shitters.
>>32246579The only reason it’s known is because he had a fucking interview before and the “director of Hololive English” had the same chuuni ass answers that omega used to tweet.
>>32246361Here's your (you)
>>32246668> >>32241553
>>32246601That isn't even news, it's drama and debating their preferences for the internal dynamics of Hololive streaming. Has nothing to do with this thread outside of maybe briefly reporting on the drama when it's actively happening not 3 days after.
>>32246649>I feel like it must be true!
>>322465365k in 15 minutes is very slow. This is absolutely a sub 10k stream especially with Ina overlapping.Also I'm not Faunaschizo, the green whore poster is someone else.
>>32246656>>32246662Blame Kronii lmao. She's the one that feels the need to make some dumbass comment once a day
>>32246338I can't believe that there could possibly be more than one autistic vision behind the Omega characterIt just seems to really have a characteristic narcissism, I mean look at the Tempus comics where he once again shoved himself in. How can you find multiple people who would do that
>>32245565it was a market study for the western market to see how much a collab with tempus would boost the boys and if it would affect the girls, Kronii was the logical option for the testMori and Bae would not provide new any dataAme and Kiara wouldnt significally boost themFauna does asmr so worst case scenario her channel could be really affectedIna and Gura were currently collabing with umisea and most likely have the backstage pull to decline anything management was to try, this probably applies to the rest of MythMumei was the first attempt, she spent the time being autistic in the back thus providing no significant dataKronii was the next candidate, lots of dataIRyS is next
>>32246689Where is that?
>>32246791Kill yourself, go to a bait thread in the catalog.
>>32246807It's one person and it's loserbait.
Hopefully Omega has a lore prepared for some NTR moments. Like the guys fucking the girls during a raid or quest and they will incorporate it into their streams.
>>32246830https://grapee.jp/en/169910
>>32246815>it was a market study for the western market to see how much a collab with tempus would boost the boys and if it would affect the girlsIf thats true then we would be seeing more id3 tempus collabs in the future
>>32245565>leaving it up to the streamershow hard is that to grasp
>>32246782She's gonna catch the Ina funnel, so the overlap is not gonna matter in the end.
>>32246766If someone is able to be in charge of:>Myth girls>Hope>Council girlsYou don't have to assume much.Moreso when they completely fucking disappear for months, to the point that a talent remarks on how they've been gone off-stream, too, only for them to show up as a lower rank in a side branch.These aren't heady assumptions to make.
>>32246720The problem is Kronii keeps making comments that change how people react. Reddit wasn't mad at her after the collab or after her initial super chat reading but after she said female ships are ok but guys aren't now they are. She keeps flip flopping which gives people more shit to talk about>>32246857Burn at the stake nigger
>>32246865Go back, nigger
Why are we, a western viewers, caring about Idol shit for just collabing when idol culture is not even our own????You are just pretending to care to stir up some drama!!!!!!
>>32245621Gatekeeping literaly isn't real, you can stop someone from the other side of the world from doing something you wouldn't like them to do.
>>32246416Close enough
>>32245362wait you aint joking LMAO she even basically tells her to fuck off since shes tryna just do a jump and end the stream
>>32246205When is he going to pull the A-chan move and debut on a stream with voice?He's clearly been working towards that for over a year. What, he's at the culmination of his efforts and too cowardly to pull the trigger?
>>32246911Shush, go back.
>>32246893that's the first option, otherwise they would not allow it
>>32246911
>>32246815I don't think they can pressure someone into doing something against their will, especially when the one you say is next was the one that literally refused a free outfit and shut her own timelines down for half a year to bring it up to a new standard, that seems like the opposite of "easily pressured" as a person.
>>32246601More like the trashcan for all the things that you can't really post about on Global or /hlg/ because you get told to fuck off or deleted or nobody cares about it.
>>32246416>>32246977
>>32247053Bold direction, ojou!
>vox had a genuine numberfag moment on streamMan niji truly sounds like a stressful place to be. Also its really just us thar shit on sub growth and numbers while everyone else worships that shit, maybe for sponsorships.
>>32247053>Ayamewell at least she's back now! I've my akasupa ready!
>>32246990I have a feeling that was his plan in that council lore shit before he got demoted. Maybe if tempus does well he'll be able to debut himself as the "isekai god" that watches of their world and maybe introduce the 5th member
>management forcing my pure idol oshi to collab with men>mori and bae are the ones doing all the organizingi didnt realize Mori and Bae were holding your oshis at gunpoint to say yes
>>32246885It's 99% corporate-speak. That last bit is a *little* weird but that's hardly a smoking gun.
>>32246990Do we even know Omega is a guy and not a girl or god forbid, a board of dumb executives?
>>32247144can you just shut up, man
>>32247144Read >>32246992
>>32246911There are other places to discuss it.
>>32247153It's Loserbait, look him up
>>32247153A guy. Kiara and Gura(?) have slipped up before and referred to Omega as a guy.
>>32247141yeah and the girls show up too and all the fans gather and support them
When are my Welcome Memba Mugyu Mugyu wife and my cute banpire coming back ( ω )
>>32247153kiara and i forgot if it was mumei or gura slipped up and refered to omega as a he
>>32247260Probably next next week, I remember taking over a month for some members with coof to return.
You know what would be fucking funny?What if Hololive makes multiple different "Generations" every new gen, and lets these groups of five train together, isolated from each other, for a month or two, then any that turn out to have bad cohesion get shit-canned for the successful one?
>>32247110I hate to defend Vox here but I'm sure most vtubers feel the same way. Very few are immediately successful enough to just say "fuck it, I already made it, ima just roll around in money and do whatever I want". He's smart to not have that attitude, even if he has had a lot of success and made a lot of money, it could all go away very quickly.
Nousagitachis I KNEEL!! >>32190017https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1565464718906572801
>>32241553Ollie crashed hard. This is the sad fate of cum rugs after being used while not building a solid loyal fanbase I guess.
>>32247212>>32247244>>32247301Thank you anons. I legit had that question a while ago.
Inclining!
>>32247301>i forgot if it was mumei or gura slipped up and refered to omega as a heIt was Kronii
>>32247319That's just VTA which makes it dumb by default.
>>32247344kys crossposter
>>32247344I have come to hate egg on burger in the past few years
>>32247376>sub 1k debutEhhhhhhhh
>>32247329He'd be more understandable if it was>I need to keep myself to a good standardand not>it feels like shit not being at THE ABSOLUTE TOPLike, you gotta count the blessings AND work hard for them, instead of dumping either end of it.
>>32247387Reminds me of the only girl from the first wave that didn't make it into Nijisanji.
>>32247485JP7
>>32247485I even heard people saying she was the best one. Wonder if she decided to take the option to not join Niji and go for another corpo.
>>32247212>loserbaitthat rrat has been dead even in the farms since guy shills niji
Incoming Funnel
>>32247356Ollie kinda learned her lesson, but its way too late to salvage her shit without kobo leeching
>>32247536No former Nijis in new Hololive gens these days, too much drama. Not worth the risk
>>32247376>sub 1k debutgrim
>>32247387Oh, thanks for reminding me about that, I remember the wrestling comparisons people made to that.It made me wonder: Do you think there's a market for ranking the NijiENs by the "Card" status the WWE uses, and the WCW used to use? You know,>Top-Card: the big names, the big draws, the guys on the posters>Mid-Card: the semi-notables, typically more dynamic than the Top-Carders, but not big name pulls or crowd draws yet>Low-Card: the midgets, the runts, the ones that kind of fill out space and "go over" for the Mid-Carders/Top-CardersI feel like you could rank NijiEN like that easily.
funnels don't count for the tally, right?
>>32247587>kinda learned her lessonI saw CRX, bro, I didn't see many lessons from that
>>32247467Everything about him sounds sooo repulsive, I can never watch him and never will. He has also made me hate the whole NijiEN coz their image for me has become different versions of Vox
>>32247648why wouldn't they
>>32247613I would anti any current niji that made the jump. Luna gets a pass because she got out early enough and she was clearly mistreated over there.
>just gets stuck directly under 7k for a full fucking minuteWhy is it always like this
>>32247674Oh god, wow, I memoryholed that. It's all flooding back to me. Good times.
>>32247631Kuzuhas group is literally the vtuber version of the kliq
>>32247613A VTA washout who never was actually under contract or ever interacted with any of the Niji talents isn't really an "ex-Niji". Also every company in the scene seems to be scooping up former Nijis with no problem.
>>32247699not a youtube function
>>32247674Fuck you I also forgot about that shit
>>32247713But would that girl even be truly niji given the current/past state of VTA?
>>32247713Luna is a trend hopper, she will ditch hololive any day now... any day...
>>32247713VTA isn't Niji though?Even if the intention was to be a funnel into Nijisanji, the VTA talents are within their right to not want to join the company.
>>32247728Luxiem thought they were the NWO, but boy, they didn't read ahead to see what happened to NWO.
>>32247173>unikek actually got upset at the truth
>>32247631Top- LuxiemMid- Noctyx except Yugo, Enna, Pomu, Elira, SelenLow- Rosemi, Petra, Maria, Nina, Millie, Yugo, Ren, Aster, KyoJobbers- Finana, Reimu, Aia, Scarle
>>32247823I remember the days that dramaniggers were so focused on JP heh
>>32247854I'm pretty sure that was a Joe Biden reference, anon.
>>32245708
>>32247952Who the fuck described that curve as "leveling out"
>>32247952did Ina Z as she was going offline?
>>32247356she really hasn't, even at her height she never was a consistent big hitter and only gave off the impression of being huge due to how small the ID market was at the time
>>32248013THEY'RE FUCKING HIDING
>>32248013Ina's whole stream was extremely unstable (on the chart side, no problems actually watching it) but yes that looks like a final baby Z.
Ina your graph... It used to be so beautiful.
>>32247903I want to ask the genuine NijiEN fans, are you actually happy that Luxiem and especially Vox is the face of your branch??Assuming that most are males here and their content is the opposite to that
>>32247926I dont keep up with american politics
>>32248092Another sad episode in the cold war between buggy Youtube coding and the N Filter.
>>32247952Uh, sapling, that doesn't look like 10k to me. Still a very long way to go.
>>32248092Nothing gets rid of the final one.
>>32242314that's what fulgur and whorefish tried to cope with and look how that ended up?
>>32248092It missed the first 3?
>>32247674i dont follow ollie, what happened to her at CRX?
>>32248125I'm not a Niji EN fan I just like Pomu, but no I hate Vox and wish he would fuck off.
>>32248125I mean, the positive for me is that Niji is so "different" that no one really gives a shit about the girl I watch to shit on them, so I take that as a positive. Otherwise, eh. Woulda preferred Holo-lite, but I mean, that's why I mainly watch Holos anyways.
>>32248170Yea the N-filter on vrabi is still not perfect, it helps when using the costume threshold see >>32248163Though it still misses some especially weird ones.
>>32248212I'm guessing they're talking about the Hololive family tree panel and how excited Ollie was to shove Stars everywhere in the tree.
>>32247356she didn't crashed, that's just her normal numbershe never know how to follow the trend, she had no idea how to improve herself
The Gura big collab could be an interesting turning point for EN. If Gura finds her MC groove, then she can actually generate numbers for EN on the regular since the collabs will involve a large part of the branch+ be on her buffed channel
>>32248212Not "to" her, "with" her, and it was an Ollie/Bae panel.They decided to do, "Let's make a family tree for Hololive! Which also means Holostars!"And it was a weird one, indeed. Ollie was responsible for about 95% of the holostars connections, if I remember accurately.
>>32248297I thought that was on ame channel?
>>32248303Ollie was 100% responsible for it all. Bae really tried to salvage at the end by trying to add the other council girls.
>>32248297>holoEN>numbersit's not 2020 any more
>>32248297It wouldn't matter because Gura just eats numbers and doesn't share them with anyone else in EN so nothing would change.
>>32248303Do you have the chart? I'm curious.
>>32248297I do wonder if it will be a long running series or just a one-off.
>>32248303>>32248405I remember the board melting down when she added Pekora. But honestly it wasn't that big of a deal, just sort-of cringey.
>>32248405Lucky you, I was looking it up myself to double check.
>>32248375>It wouldn't matter because Gura just eats numbers and doesn't share them with anyone else in EN so nothing would change.She's a big girl, she needs the nourishment so she can beat Selen to be the absolute titan of vtubing.
>might not get 10k minecraftfauna?
>>32248405
>>32248438This was really cringey to watch live, probably the worst vtuber con panel I've ever seen and I watched the Kson Vshoujo intro.
>>32248520>Luna/Matsuri>"Siblings"God
>>32248419I mean this is what I'm saying, I hope she succeeds and develops a taste for doing it.>>32248332No? It was a literal Gura announcement and an idea she put forward almost a year ago (in fact it was the source of a mino dramaniggery because she said she wants to do it with "vtubers" and people doomposted vshojo lmao). Ame isn't even yet confirmed to participate as far as I'm aware.https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1565140610759229447?s=20&t=115xx01DUGxKKsL6rGB4ug
>>32248520>family dog>slave>ex wifeWhat were these retards thinking?
>>32248516No one else is streaming for hours she'll get it.
>>32248375That's just bullshit though. She clearly helped incline Fauna and Kaela, but hey you do you.
>>32248297Doesn't matter anyway. Enna will mog all 9 HoloENs and win cripple gold.
>>32248516She's covering her tits with that fucking cow shawl again, it's a debuff
>>32248587sasuga dead slot abusing whore
>>32248520>Mumei is Vesper's family dog.Nahone.
>>32248230>>32248232So let me explain why I asked, coz any new potential viewer comes across vtubing, they will obviously look at the most popular ones 1st, so many will look at Luxiem content and will go naaaa vtubing is not for me.Dont want to doom post but things like these are unironically why EN vtubing scene is feeling stagnant. Most popular group which is Holo Myth doesn't stream either so even less chances
>>32248650>CN Gold
>>32248520
>>32248678On one hand, that's not impossible.On the other, I'll take a filter if that's what this means. Filters ain't bad.
Fauna you dumbass just leave the fucking game open when you go to take a piss you can just move your model off screen holy fuck
>>32248650Literally what do you keep posting about mate. What does Enna have coming up? Or is it just random nijinigger shitposting?
>>32248297If she was this proactive like a year ago she could have saved the branch from its stagnation. The lack of cohesivenss and ongoing narrative kinda killed HoloEN's momentum
>>32248732She knows some people are sexually attracted to the Long Fauna
>>32248678I don't feel like Luxiem actually has that much presence in the west. I never get clips of them, the most exposure I get is on twitter, and only because it sends me stuff from the vtuber tag constantly. If you get exposed that way, yes, it's a bad first impression, but the types of people on twitter would probably enjoy his content anyway.
>>32248732They always do this, who is teaching them to put up their ending screens with different text while they pee for 60 seconds
>>32248438>>32248442I remember this shit. I think Ollie and Bae could hide the other person's lines to make drawing easier, because when Bae was drawing Mumei's line (she probably wasn't seeing the entire board) and it seemed like it was coming out of Roberu's box, Oliie started to freak out a bit kek
>>32245704I vaguely remember some Holo (Fubuki, Matsuri or Towa I'm not sure) years ago complaining that their manager actually warns them to not collab with males all the time but they cant stop them if they want to do it.This might be bullshit because I can't find the source for it but it does make some sense. Holostaff obviously knows there's always drama and the girls might not want to deal with that bullshit.
>>32248520well, good thing i chose to skip anything with those two loud zoomers
>>32248733Karaoke I think
>>32248650>a fucking unarchived karaoke>without any relay>for a niji femalepathetic, nijister. I'd spit in your face IRL for making me check
>>32248789Yesterday or the day before, Kiara went to take a piss and came back within like, fucking 15 seconds.Global spent the next 300 posts talking about her pissing habits, and well, their oshi's piss in general. So a pretty typical day.
>>32248789But that has never been her ending screen.
>>32248613Fauna catching funnels or just straight up leeching isn't inclining, she's just lucky to be in that timeslot. And Kaela didn't incline from Gura as chumbuds weren't even apart of unique chatters, not to mention she was only getting those numbers on MC.
>>32248561>My little sister I love you>My little sister very very cute>My little sister I love you>Do you know what I mean?
>>32248868Ah yeah, that's true. You're right.
>>32248811It's because ollie put in all the homos first and took up the space.
>>32248662im so fucking sick of the cow shit
>>32248854Nah that Enna thing will go over 20k. Higher than that? Who knows. She's popular with fellow chinks. After seeing them boost Ike to 58k or whatever I wouldn't put anything past them.
>>32248930Yeah well, it's a genuine fanbase meme and those always get taken too far and beaten to death. Still, good thing for Fauna to have, spawned so much art and has spread around to other talents. You need those if you want to incline.
>no fauna s3 rustthere goes her numbers
>>32248729Problem here is that ppl who are getting filtered are the ones you want since they don't want these pandering baiting shit>>32248788You say that but there fans will make sure that any new potential fan will check their content first.It happens with kpop as well, if someone starts getting into kpop, BTS fans swarm them to check them firstPS: I am a Holo only fan but I wanted to give my 2 cents
>>32248892>And Kaela didn't incline from Gura as chumbuds weren't even apart of unique chattersRetard. I guess her getting shoved into the algorithm and immediately inclining afterwards was just everyone's imagination. The stupid vrabi unique chatters thing has done irreparable damage to how people understand audiences being shared or inclines generated.
>>32248989It was obvious she didn't give a shit about Rust. She should genuinely stick to Minecraft instead and keep it alive while everyone else is gone.
>>32248972>Nah that Enna thing will go over 20kYou nijiniggers have lost your fucking minds lmao. Sisters aren't gonna viewfarm Enna. She has no penis, there will be no 20k
>>32248998You may have a point. That's fair. But like. I feel like "Hololive" is still the thing bringing people into Vtubing. It's the thing that has real "appeal" to people. Niji in the West, it ain't like Niji in the Rising Sun, where shit's more mainstream. "Idol" is kind of the "face" of Vtubing in the West, that's why so many people try and market themselves as edgy for not being "idol-style." Because it's the norm.I think Hololive is still the "pull," not the Niji side. Niji side is more for "Want a different flavor and/or Chinese today, sir?"
>>32248998if the entry point is aimless wandering through algo stuff and anime-adjacent stuff on youtube I think you hit HoloEN far before Luxiemsame with random things that might hit the front page of redditI think you'd have to be actively already within NijiEN's strike zone to get served them in a ratio that's higher than Holo's
>>32249090She's saying right now that she'll play it occasionally if she can just live in someone's house, hang out with them occasionally, help out when she feels like it. And by "someone" she means Gura.
>>32249050Or it's cleared up bullshit narratives that were able to be generated absent any actual data. Not saying the Gura interaction didn't help but she was already sharply inclining on Minecraft prior to that and has already fallen back down to the level she was at before her Gura mini-arc.
>>32249156Hey, it could be Mumei, too, they love to mash clams and shit
>>32248788>I don't feel like Luxiem actually has that much presence in the westyesterdays spotify discussion was fun
Man it's nice listening to Fauna. She's aware of her strengths, the things she wants to do, stuff that would be a good idea for content. Watching the aimless ENs in Rust while Fauna says she's a team support player and wants to unite the ENs to be a third faction in the next war is great.
>>32248989it's not like minecraft stopped being a buff game though, and holoEN in particular got better numbers with HoloCure than Rust
>>32248989>Fauna doesn't wanna commit, cause she thinks it would hurt her ability to stream variety.>She is willing to log one and live in others' houses every now and then>Would like to join big events like the war>Hopes they can make an EN team to go up against the JPs in the final war.
>>32249187LUXIEMWE'RE TAKING OVER QUEZON CITY
>>32248732It's funny when some girls don't even do anything and just leave their model on the screen like a lifeless puppet.
>>32249109Selene got 16k despite being an awful singer, and only half as popular as Enna with chinks. I'd be shocked if it doesn't go over 20.
>Fauna still motivated to keep doing work in Minecraft thanks to Kaela.Now if only the other EN members could join in.
>>32243454>Gura as captain America nice
>>3224927413k
>>32249198It's like she read the comments complaining about the ENs role in the war and wanted to fix that
>>322493263/5 EN3s will be hardcore block autists and they'll turn the EN server into scicraft.
>>32249266I think some anon mentioned that quezon is where a lot of the pagpag food comes from
>>32249187I never see that weird Thai script in their word clouds, kind of interesting though. Lui actually speaks Thai and as far as I know she's never pandered to them and they've never taken any interest in her.
>>32249337
>>32249225>Fauna doesn't wanna commit, cause she thinks it would hurt her ability to stream variety.how can she even say this when she spams minecraft every week?
>>32249122>>32249128Fair points, with my bias I hope it stays like that but good discussion.
>>32249372If she streamed Rust, then it would be worse, would it not?
>>32249225ENs would get bodied so hard. They've have to cheat and let Tempus play with their avatars to have a chance.
>>32249355If EN3 gets a Kaela we are soon going to have Minecraft Cold wars between ID and EN trying to up each other in their master buildings.
>>32249198> the things she wants to do, She mentioned in an early member stream that she pretty much likes to choose things to stream based on whether she will enjoy it as well as the audience and that while she may get selfish sometimes (she mentioned Getting Over It, as an example) she still tries to avoid that. It's why I'm pretty sure she doesn't stream VNs and shit heavily despite her really liking that, because no only is there a risk of getting spoiled by faggot chat it's not something her general audience would give a shit about. It's also why she's apprehensive in playing Death's Stranding.
Welp, too late now, Fauna can't get 10k.Betting my cum.
>>32249420>Kaelawe need a moona more than a kaela when it comes to mc
>>32249338Now I just think you're an Enna fan that wants to grudgepost yourself. Nice try tho.
>>32249274>17Kroru. And you seriously underestimate the difference between 15k and 20k. 20k is no joke.But whatever, no fucking memereoke from a nijifemale is getting EN gold vs a full branch HoloEN collab
>>32243683how much is paul li paying you?
>>32249372She likes Minecraft, and she recognizes there's an open niche and a lot of under served demand there. If she added a Goomba-style Rust addiction she'd just play only those two games and presumably doesn't want to.Being a variety + Minecraft streamer is a pretty good choice overall, a classic Hololive archetype.
>>32249372The difference is that you don't have to stream minecraft. She could take a couple days off or play something else if she wanted. You HAVE to play rust to keep your shit from deteriorating.
Altare sub 1k for now, I guess Hades is a big debuff with his viewerbase.
>>32249450God I hope she doesn't touch Death Stranding.
>Educate Urself>Improve Urself>Now: Be productiveAnons clearly you guys cleary slacking off! Make more baits!
>>32249420Anon all Kaela does is grind.
>>32249532Was this a about the sending nudes to the males thingy?
>>322495035 rmb an hour
If this is the number she has to beat, then she's already won.
>>32249530See, I fucking HOPE she goes for Death Stranding, that's one of my favorite fucking games of all time.
>>32249532This one isn't gonna stick, its just generic "female thinks she's saying something insightful". Educate yourself and improve yourself were addressed at actual parts of the audience, they were direct fuck yous
>>32249577Pretty sure that was just a joke thing that people here ironically or unironically sperged out about.
>>32249592she's directly competing with gura though.
>>32242144>For a while he was the fastest growing vtuber across the industry, then Salome happenedgura.....wigger......
>>32249592Are you ever actually going to make that "shill your oshi to me" post that Irystocrat asked you for, or are you just gonna keep seething at them one-sidedly for all time?
>>32249355You know, you make me realize. If Cover gets an applicant with serious Minecraft background and skills, that's probably huge points. Female block autists should shoot their shot.
>>32249601Go watch Anya's 50 episode playthough, but don't wish that poison on Fauna just to satisfy your own selfish desire.
>>32249592>big 400k unarchived celebration>vs>some random archived karaokeEnna schizo I beg of you, get a fucking life
How in the fuck does Elira have 3000 viewers playing fucking Xenoblade
>>32249337USAUSAUSA
>>32249372Yeah so imagine a schedule of just Rust and Minecraft.Personally I don't mind because they're the 2 most kino games in the current meta, but it's not hard to see why a content creator wouldn't want 2 types of streams to be all her content. >>32249396
>>32249601t. kojima
>>32249679I wish that on literally EVERY Holo, anon.Fuck, I wish that on every Vtuber.
>>32249709>Natural incline
>le sub-10k green whore
>>32249709It fucking slaps as a game
>>32249709As numbers poisony as jrpgs are if you can get an audience that wants to watch them they'll stick with you to watchThose 3k are all that's left after the tons of hows spent playing debuff shit but they'll at least show up
>>32249601Would be Kino content, but holy fuck would it be number poison.
>>32249709
>>32249709First stream of a new JRPG. 3k is quite good tho, but by ep 5 she'll drop to around 1k like she normally gets for these kinds of games.
>32249775I don't give (You)s to extremely weak and lazy grudgepost attempts. You gotta get these in much earlier, you're being too obvious about it.
>>32249532Post that to your vent channel fliptard
>>32249765Got to make sure that normal content doesn't hurt the median
>>32249751kojima already gave his blessing to one vtuber
>>32249765>Wow, <NijiEN> member has <big number>!>It's either a Z, a raid, or secretly an 8-man collab>Every fucking time
https://files.catbox.moe/61bd0x.mp4
>fauna playing minecraft>not even 10k???????
>>32249530why do you hate me so much anon?
>>32249765She was already at 2.5k and a 500 raid is hardly egregious compared to Shu usually boosting the girls by thousands.
>>32249854Kojimber i kneel
>>32249822>around 1k like she normally gets for these kinds of games.no?
>>32249890quick you can post this a few more times before she gets there
>>32249775>>32249890this is why i call faunaschizo a fucking sapling psyop>let me just set up a false villain that gets btfo at every turn!!!kill yourself saplingfags
>>32249915Yes.
>>32249947why are nijiniggers like this?
>>32249890holo MC buff is dead and EN is reclining.
>>32249915https://vrabi.net/video/1ZTeG0m0kYk
>>32249964>get called out>NIJINIGGER!fuck off
1 million getto!
>>32249993nijiseethe
>>32249947>Stop talking about faunas numbers>Saplings are shills and are ruining this thread>Faunaschizo is a sapling>Saplings hate baeWhat next?
>>32249947Says the guy that pretended to anti Rye until he created Ryeschizo
>>32250010speaking of which
AIEEEE SAVE ME BLUE WOMENI MUST LEEEECH
Don't let the impending self-grudgeposting about Fauna distract you from the fact that Pekora bought a fucking monkey
>>32250057Oh hey, good job Mori... 1 mil is a lot of song plays...
Sorry, Fauna, 10,000 is for women with large breasts.
>>32249601I recommend you go watch Foob's playthrough if you interest in JPit's a great game
>>32250084Hades is an incredibly boring stream game.I like him, but Regis deserves to be punished for poor game choices.
>>32250057
>>32250172he just wanna play rougelikes, let him have his fun
>>32241519Sasuga PekoraHololive banzai
>>32244393its not even about being an unicorn or gfe for me, i dont want a retard with forced jokes like bluefag ruining another collab again. Vesper was fine.
>>32250137I've checked a lot. Anya, Foob's, I BELIEVE it was Aki who did as well?Pekora's LP was also fucking STUPID good. I'm decently sure she got the fucking monkey because of that baby.
>>32250180Low blow...
Fauna went to the Jp server it doesn't count.
>>32250180we posting shit numbers now?
Wasn't Gen 1 schizo like that as well? He almost never talked shit about them while they streamed, and when he did he'd write shit like "a stream like this didn't even break 3k for haachama" when she's already at 10k
>>32250214nijiseethe
>>32250180GO IRYS!
fauna brings up pekodam>pekodam was created in late 2020 almost 2 years ago
>>32242883>ABSOLUTE DOG RACE WEEK OF TEMPUS VS ILUNAThat was kino.
>>32249963she normally get around 1500 - 2000
>>32250192He can play them, but juggling 3 at once (cult of the lamb, Gungeon, Hades) and playing Zelda is "deserves to be spanked" levels of number retardation.
Do you think Coco ever feels sad about the fact that the majority of Hololive fans think she's fucking dead
>>32250215Who is this?
>>32250263is this the fauna thread?
She's edging me
>>32250312anon...Noeru
Fauna 10k get!
>>32250321yes she has the most viewers right now, one would say the highest numbers currently.
>>32250282People have written a lot of good posts about the distinction between Coco and Kson in past threads, I don't feel like reiterating it so just go look those up
>>32250180>>32250215If you want to cure your music numberrot, you need look no further than our good friend Gilzaren III's music recommendation playlistsI have no idea how he finds all of these
okay now shut the fuck up
>>32250363no it's not you retard, you don't have to post every single thing fauna says on her streams
>>32249459Cum tribute now
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>32243770You have to divide the number by at least three since their merch revenue is around the same numbers, but Nijisanji has more vtubers to spam merch.
>>32250361There's a difference, I'm talking about how she'd react to the thousands of people that go>"Kaichou o7"when she's brought up while completely and utterly ignoring the other person that's like them
>>32250323These hours are so shit. Fauna can get 10k in 30 mins if she streamed later, but it takes an hour and half of crawling to just get to 10k.
>>32249459your cum now
>>32250282Kson does and she kinda deserves it after the stunt she pulled with VshojoJP
>>32250349took her long enough, and with a gigabuff game too.
Fauna is unironically botted. 10k saplings apparently but her split and global are both dead as fuck. Either that or she's unironically tapped into the Minecraft kiddies in YouTube who watch only Minecraft.
>>32250409fauna is looking at yagoo's statue right now
>>32250084uhhh wasn't he supposed to be inclining or something?
Jesus why do fauna antis whine so damn much
>Youtube edges it just under 10k for like 10 minutes>The second she gets over 10k it bursts up to ~10.2kYoutube what the fuck, why do you do these weird stair steps
nice Fauna 10kif only she hadn't killed her numbers with the Twilight stream
>>32250343I didn't even know Noel dropped an original.Anyways seems like in general short videos haven't been doing the greatest for some reason, whether it's songs or shitpostsEven watame's shorts have been doing a bit worse than usual in the last two weeks or soHaachama's VOD about her haachama cooking video has more views than the actual video
Rushia...
>>32250521Do you know any antis that DON'T get loud and whiny about a girl?
do we have any idea around which hour will be tomorrow's Ametori collab?
>>32250530It does that for every fucking 1k, it's annoying as hell.
>>32250544By chance do you know which Holos do the best as far as shorts go?
Akushion's model is still uncompleted btw
>>32250521>plural
>>32250084also his audio is fucked up, the game is too loud and I can barely hear him because of the way he speaks
>>32250463People only post in the split when she isn't streaming to ask where she is.
Fauna's gonna hit her 11k minecraft floor ez
>>32250530nothing weird there, move along
>>32250532She should keep doing more buff streams right? Fauna's video history look like this:>buff stream>buff stream>buff stream>superchat reading>buff stream>buff stream>buff streamThe cancer of numberfagging
Whichever Holo plays Xenoblade X first is going to hit a 15k floor for that stream, I guarantee it.
>>32250623isnt that watame
>>32250712larry david in a wig
nahone
>>32250727I'll watch, fucking love that game. But I dunno, the start is slow, it's one of those games where it only gets insanely good like 30 hours in.
>>32250711even superchat reading have more than twice the ccv than that twilight watchalong
>>32250623Depends on the kind of shorts, but the top three iirc are marine, haachama and watame.Haachama has slowed down with her short shitposts with the exception of this month and even then they aren't doing all that great, just seems like they aren't being picked by the algo.Watame has her own special 3D shorts which are kind of like mini hologras of sorts so it's expected for them to do good, I don't know how marine's shorts have been doing as of late thoughBut afaik these three are the top when it comes to shorts by both amount and viewsYou could chuck gura just in case since I have no idea if she does shorts or not
>>32250796Pomubuff
What is fauna doing anyway?
>>32250835The clipfags would salivate at the prospect of catching the first ever>"What do you mean you didn't buy insurance?"ragequit, you know it
>>32250848Building a Raid Farm to Gain Infinite Emeralds and Destroy the Economy
>>32250848Building a Raid farm. She's spent the first hour and a half getting materials.
>>32250848Building a raid farm and ruining the EN economy
>>32250796I wish they would leave Pomu alone. Looks like a Shu raid, most of them will leave immediately.
>>32250837According to you, nobody should stream anything that isn't a buff stream because maximizing ccv average is the most important thing ever. You're the reason the hololive girls only stream 2x a week and only stream buff games every time. Nobody streams anything that isn't minecraft, rust, or collab.
>>32250895nijiseethe
>>32250321This is more active than the Fauna thread. Her split is fucking dead. Do all saplings just hang out here instead?
KINO AS FUCK>Hololive Rust season 2 final battle all Holomen VS Pekorahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVz5gIIQzYThe EN girls were at the server, WTF were they doing?
>>32250882>>32250891>>32250892>falling for blatant baitYou guys aren't very smart are you
>>32250915Global. And in my bed.
>>32250915Yes
>>32250937faunathread
>>32250895Dry your tears and try writing that again
>>32250796Natural incline
>>32250925kiara singlehandedly stopped the war by killing pekora even though she wanted to help her
>>32250625Ayame is coming back, she will help them finish it.
>>32250796she wouldve climbed to that amount with a regular funnel just over time instead of instantly
>>32250915UUUuuuuu
>>32250915Fauna is really fun to talk about in /#/ because she's inclining by following some of our autistic principles (inadvertently of course, no way does she read this thread)
Is that a Z within a fuking Z?
>>32250925They were pretty much all doing their own thing or being a bunch of flies on the walls listening to the JPs around themThey needed someone to band them together and form an EN team but the majority of them were never motivated to go all in on rust
>>322510153600 for a draw stream probably not. Maybe 2500-2800.
>>32250431She certainly cares about it, enough to reply to Coco fanart.
>>32250912>minecraft>rust>minecraft>rust>elden ring>elden ring>elden ring>collabwow look the ccv average is so high! They only stream 2x a week but wow that average is super high!Other people are doing creative and fun streams that aren't just numberfagging cancer
>>32251095>Other peoplewho
>>32251095I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning
>>32251038Jesus christ.
>>32251038My god... The fabled Double-Z technique... I didn't think it was possible...
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>>32251038I'll be honest, I have no idea what the fuck that is.
>>32251038the ever evolving war of Ns vs. N filters
>>32251095Anon when will you learn people are also there for the girls too. If Minecraft was such a buff why is this a thing
>>32250925pushing the peace meme on a pvp focused day
>>32251038N-natural incline... this stream is no longer a debuff
>>32251095>Other people are doing creative and fun streamswho?
>>32251139people tab out when a game ends and tab in when another starts. it's not rocket science.
>>32251137Enna is the only one doing buff-stream the way hololive does. And coincidentally she has a super high ccv average.
>>32251193It's a drawing stream.
>>32251038>>32251116fuck off, nijishill
>>32251193It's a drawing stream you dumb fuck.
>>32251196She does way more
>>32251088Do you think she regrets it? pretty much nothing changed for her outside of losing numbers, the hate is still here, the content is the same, she gets blocked by other vtubers the same way...it literally was all for nothing
>>32251232>>32251242people tab out when a line ends and tab in when another line starts. it's not rocket science.
>>32251172>>32251095Here's your Melania fight broIt's totally a full on buf
Like is someone actually botting her or what the fuck is going on?
>>32251260Yeah she streams 5x a week instead of 2x a weekFauna does way more buff streams than enna does. Fauna's entire video page is minecraft and rust spam. Enna never plays the same game twice a week
>>32250925gura joined hosimati family pretty early on and pretty much just went to war with them.debuffson built a tower by the casino to snipe at gamblers but apparently only fbk were into gambling on last day. the real gambling was after the war was over.mori confusing everyone in the global chat with her "bants." later joined fbk and gamble while the war rages.kiara joined and drag ame and mori to the derby. later joined the final push on peko castlle when it's pretty much done.baerys joined late and they pretty much joined miko/matuli/luna band on the final fight.
>>32251038susan just fucking stop please
>>32251137you forgot the tier list just to mention other more popular members
>>32251196Enna is not the first or the last Niji to do buff streams. She's just naturally better at it, which is why she's inclined while playing to her strengths while Rosemi and Scarle have not reached her heights. Dunno why you're trying to discredit the fact that if anyone else other than Enna was using her schedule, they wouldn't get her numbers unless they're one of the more popular boys.
>>32251270>>32251193this is like the nijiniggers lying about numbers "joke" thing
>>32251291susan is keeping nijiEN down by culling their viewers, the actual viewcount is finally coming through.
>>32250544Watame's shorts vary heavily depending on what it is. They'll play something like this a couple times and think it's cute, but doesn't really fit a viral type of content:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdgJzJIF0wThen you have stuff that's clickbait or fits the sort of humor you'd pass around:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-i1gzWeeOIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5INeZYDSNwShe has had this kind of trend since she started doing them earlier in the year.
>>32249887Could be better desu
>>32251280He only played it like twice, no way he got Melania. wtf
>>32251314Retard
>>32251291
>>32250925based
>>32251346You are advocating buff-spam cancer. Just keep spamming the same 3 games over and over and get ccv averages. Maybe there's a reason Pomu gets more superchat than Gura does. Because she's actually doing creative streams all the time. She isn't just spamming ccv maximizing games.
>>32251038The only times Pomu has ever gotten a Z is when she has gotten a big (2k+) raid from Shu or a Noctyxs. It is pretty clear that Z has something to do with chinese viewers. It never happens on regular female NijiEN streams because there are few chinese viewers on those
>>32251360He played it off stream cause ER was number cancer for him.
>>32251314Fauna streamed Rust once in all of August and twice ever. What the fuck are you even talking about?
A tragedy in three actsAct 1>be Ame>doesn't care about RUST>EN girls decide to play RUST>decides to pull a GUERILLA RUST overlapping their RUST collabAct 2>Plays RUST at the same time as the rest of the EN girls>Keeps to herself the whole time, doing "la creatividad" building>Chat nudges in the direction of playing with the other girls>SCOLDS chat, tells them she plays as she likes and the more they want her to do something the more she will avoid it>While offline, plays massive "demolition derby" arena, tells no oneAct 3>Day of Grand Finale>Drops by Calli secret peace party that nobody else attends because they didn't know about it>Shows her said demolitio derby for a few minutes, loses interest, never show it again>Wanders around doing "la creatividad" for the rest of the day while a no holds barred full on war is raging in the serverPrologue>Other girls prepare for group photo, invite Ame>Chat nudges in the direction of going to take said group photo>Suisei goes to PERSONALY invite her to take said group photo>Ame nopes out of itWhy does Ame hates numbers, her audience, her coworkers and her job?
>>32251419LOL
>>32251360He played most of it offstream because it was his "special game".In retrospect of his numberfag speech, it's pretty obvious he did it because he knew the numbers would be bad (look at his old sekiro numbers) and he wouldn't receive any SCs for these streams.It's smart numberfagging tbf to not stream content you know your audience won't care for.
>>32251419>scexplain vox and asmr then?
>>32251446Zs happen to everyone. Ina got like 5 today.
>>32251460That's not what prologue means
>>32251419this calls for a bait thread
Hang in there N-filter, we're gonna make it through this.
>>32251419>suoerchatcute
>>32251460This isn't a tragedy at all, there's gotta be a rise, a peak, and a fall from grace into tragic fate, this is just avoidance, I hate you illiterates
Let's not bite on re-litigating the Ame saga in this thread.