/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No.

Just what did she mean by this?

>>32237102
yes its time we move on and stop watching kronii

Yep nope she just added oil on the fire, it's not clearing thing up, it's making thing worse, most of issue like those would have way better resolution if absolutly ignored on streamer side, but here we go!

>>32237102
The coward took the comments down last I saw.

>>32237102

>>32237317
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THOSE STAIRS BRO
I TOLD YOU DOG

>>32237102
>I leave things out because it's unprofessional to have a relationship
>some people get weird and serious about it
Holy shit, I just realized. It's not unicorns she's appeasing, her boyfriend got mad about the shipping stuff so she wants people to stop

>>32237387
Yeah, me

>cleared up
Much like how the NY skyline was “cleared up” after 9-11

>>32237293
>should've ignored this shit
Every time. Why won't these dumb bitches learn? Holy shit.

Get wrecked shippers. Get wrecked homobeggars. Get wrecked tourists. Get absolutely wrecked.

>>32237102
>And she triple down lmao now she's implying her unicorns are sensitive weirdos who will find shipping her male offensive and the circle of life repeat itself she can't let this die down can't she KEK.

>>32237317
This is just proof that the idol shtick of Hololive is pure cancer. She should just be able to say she's not okay with cross gender ships and leave it at that. Also unicorns need to be buried. I just want to watch fun streams, not deal with spergs.

This all started simply because Kronii had a good time, but blew up into a mess because of unicorns. Unicorns should just be bullied out.

>>32237102
>phonefag
at least download one of the hundreds of screenshots that have already been posted and save yourself the humiliation

>>32237102
>>32237312
It is impressive that the sopa de macaco troll donated less than 5 dollars and managed to break her mind

>>32237499
What victory you see there she just singled you fucks out for being retarded.

>>32237102
Why is this being drawn out for too long, I don't get it.

>>32237506
>implying

>>32237619
Well is technically true that they're weirdos

A trillion fucking words just to say
"I'm gay". Women.

>”someone people get weird about it”
>”unfortunately idol culture is a thing”
Don’t think I’ve seen a vtuber with such clear disdain for her fans since the Mori lean yab. Although Kronies kinda deserve it for picking a gender confused twitter troon to be their oshi

>>32237499
>Get cucked live
>Akchually wasn't like that because of an addressing comment
Cope, also Kronii said shipping was fine as long you're not obnoxious about it

>>32237102
Thank god we have another thread about this.

Why is she not simply shutting up and letting it blow over naturally? What is with that autistic need to have the last word, thinking that if she only overexplains herself often enough everyone will see the light and be pleased with her damage control, instead of only making it worse and keeping the issue alive for longer by streisand-effecting? These retarded girls should be given mandatory social media training, or failing that, just get their social media access taken away by management

>>32237605
I'm not a shipper. I hate shippers. Shippers were the ones who couldn't understand what she was saying. It was always the shippers.

Kronii is probably browsing /vt/ as a tourist. Everytime the board calm down she comes back and pour gasoline into the fire kek.

>>32237723
mori 100% told her to say something to own the haters

Just shut the fuck up. Is Kronii retarded? I'm sure they ship people all the time in jp idol communities and no one gives a fuck. Just let me look at art of you getting gangbanged by all of stars in peace

>>32237703
Yeah and shippers got obnoxious which is why she sent this further clarification, because they apparently couldn't read the first one.

>>32237697
I am a massive mori hater, can i get a quick explanation on the lean yab? she reeks and her pink hair is from eating too many shrimps

>can get free money without any backlash by keeping it girl only and can keep interacting with men offline
>decided to join wigger's whore parade
Her fault.

>>32237506
Who are you quoting? Learn how to green text.

>>32237779
They got obnoxious cause of the first one

>>32237102
What's the clip?

I love Kronii! I think this last comment was definitely too much but I can see why she would do it. She had already spent a hour and a half reading out all of our concerns and agreeing in members, might as well lay the redditors and clipfags off easy.

>>32237102
you all forget that when she says "best clip so far on the matter", she's referring to Nerrev who heavily favors Kronii clips and donates to her on a regular basis

>>32237760
Not endorsed by Kronii, not supported by Kronii, disallowed by Kronii.

If you look at and like this stuff Kronii says you're the schizo weirdo tourist.

he turned off comments

>>32237609
Just another corpo forced drama to be relevant. Make a small yab, force into loud minds and harvest profit on flames. Ecelebs doing this shit for years, but retards around a globe still buys this shit.

>>32237543
>This all started simply because Kronii had a good time

Good time as in "Talent Freedom." Now look where she dug herself in.

>>32237102
>>32237317
Amazing, all those words and she still didn't say anything, I'll try to summarize:
>she'll keep doing collabs with the homos
>she thinks people complaining are incels (despite her doing GFE ASMR streams)
>she's asking to not ship them (like Twitter fanart is the actual problem here)
>she thinks idol culture is cringe and genuinely believes it's just being an unicorn (Sora would kick her in the teeth)
>crying about harassment despite a lot of SC being reasonable and just trying to explain their point
I swear to fucking god I didn't expect her to be such a retarded menhera

>>32237808
Her future ghost when she ultimately end up graduating because she keeps digging herself deeper in the shit hole.

>>32237795
Mori posted on twitter that she was sippin heavy on the lean. People were like "what the fuck? what the fuck Calli?" because lean is negro speak for alcohol mixed with codeine cough syrup it's a street drug. S?he posted a really fucking awkward and unbelievable comment about how she wasn't referring to "lean" lean she thought you could refer to all alcoholic drinkies as lean, and she needs to get used to this "new fangled slang", "lean" being a slang term that's existed since at least the 80s in rap culture.

>>32237928
Someone didn't watch the guerilla members stream...

>>32237102
>don't ship me with the guys
If you collab with the guys you get shipped with the guys. Don't like it? Don't collab.

>>32237543
reddit spacing

>>32237543
you understand that she is actively choosing to go this route, right?
like, all the decisions, all the comments, all collabs, nobody is forcing her to do any of that

>>32237928
okay this but literally the opposite
the gfe streams are fire tho

>>32237795
>>32237952
There's a soundpost of a better unarchived explanation. She watched some youtuber say Lean when she was a teenager and really thought it was just alcohol.

>>32237543
Aren't the streams without males fun though? Why should they have to collab with males just because you want them to? That's just arrogance to think your opinion matters more. The other big vtuber groups already do that so just watch them instead if Hololive's collabs without males bother you.

I legitimately pity you people.

>>32238152
ok normalcuck

Based Kiki calling this slut out

>>32237102
>>32237312
>>32237387
>>32237499
>>32237543
>>32237703
>>32237731
>>32237760
>>32237852
>>32237928
Hasn't she realized that shippers are trolls who only want to see chaos? And the worst thing is that these trolls donated less than the Kronies who supported the collab with the HomoStars

>>32237543
It's proof that Kronies are an insecure bunch if they are scared of the woman hating "homo" for making her laugh. Then because she is also as insecure and autistic has her clocks, goes on a menhera yab streak with not only a "im sorry" membership stream (where she reads from a fucking parasocial book for fuck sakes) and then is posting on a clipper's comment box.

This has nothing to do with idol culture, it has to do with parasocial shit being absolutely fucking unhealthy.

>>32237808
nta but it feels like he missed the breakline before the lmao

>>32237962
I'm obviously not giving money to this bitch. That's what I got from her comments and I don't think there is any other way to see it.
>>32238037
Yeah sure, but if you make that shit then don't call your fans creepy incels or be surprised when they don't want male collabs.

>>32237543
>She should just be able to say she's not okay with cross gender ships and leave it at that.
She can retard. NOBODY fucking wants cross gender ships. Maybe a small small SMALL minority of random fujos that barely have a voice on the internet. People weren't even shipping her to begin with. The people she was blatantly addressing where the /here/fags that hate male collabs and felt cucked. How the fuck can you pretend THESE people are the ones "shipping" her?

The issue is that she fucking collabed with a male to begin with. Guess what, the same people who don't want cross gender ships, also don't want cross gender ship BAIT. Nobody wants to see their oshi have the time of their life and laughing harder than she's ever laughed before just because her collab partner is some whispery voiced groomer that obviously gets her panties wet.

Fuck off with that shit, it's entirely Kronii's fault. She made her entire fanbase feel cucked which is why the laugh was such a big deal and she KNOWS the laugh was a big deal (because she tried to excuse it).
But she can't actually address the fact that she cucked her fans so she had to change the narrative and pretend this is about "getting shipped" (nobody was shipping her, people were upset because they DON'T want HER to fucking kick off shitty male ships by acting all smitten with one of them). It's a lame way to deflect the blame while also trying to get unicorns on her side ("see guys I'm against male ships too, that means you didn't get cucked haha")

But it's not the reality and that's precisely why people kept poking holes into her dumb narrative because it made no sense. And she keeps having to re-re-re-address it because of that. Now she's reached the point where she blames evil idol culture for male ships not being possible, implying she'd be okay with male ships if it wasn't for that gosh darn idol culture. So basically she already did a complete 180 on her own narrative about male ships being unwanted.

>>32238178
>bunnyonvt
>literally lifting posts from the thread to tweet for attention
I can't believe people fall for this.

>>32238184
Woman moment rumao

>>32238239
So it appears you are just a mad shipper, because that is who she was calling out. Alright, goodbye.

>>32238296
Heh.

>>32238291
Kiki is like us while Kronii is an entitled bitch

>>32237543
>She should just be able to say she's not okay with cross gender ships and leave it at that.
But ironically that would be best thing she could do in this situation. It's her fault that she went menhera.

>>32237800
Dont worry, kid. Pekkora and JP is next. Guild Tempus is coming for everybody. You cant stop the Maglord.

>>32238380
Are you trolling, underage, or just severely mentally ill

>>32238188
>woman hating homo
>has an ex-gf
Imagine believing anyone that claims they're homo would never pursue and have sex with the opposite sex.

Anyone claiming they're homo is 99.99 percent of the time bi at best. And male homosexuals are hypersexual as it is, he would absolute fuck Kronii if he found her remotely attractive, no matter how "gay" he apparently is.

Where did this shipping drama even come from? People were complaining about the fact that she had a collab with males, that was the controversy, then she just turns the whole discussion towards shipping somehow. What the fuck happened?
And why did she decide that the best place to clear up her statement was in a clip's comment section instead of her own official outlets? What the fuck is wrong with her head?

>>32238389
You wish, tempiss

The fun thing is that the blue homo is a self-admitted psychopath who has zero fucking problems using women for his own gain (he literally got a gf just to eat her mom's cooking, he gives zero fucks about other people's feelings).
I know it sounds based, but on top of being a sleazy fuck he has one of the most annoying fake laugh I've ever heard and sounds like a turbo faggot.

>>32238296
Kronii you just had to ignore them. Please stop giving them what they want

>>32238282
>NOBODY fucking wants cross gender ships.
>"""Maybe a small small SMALL minority of random fujos"""
I hate to tell you this but you are wrong. People will ship anyone and anything. Is it weird? Yes. Is it happening? Yes.
>homobeggar!!!111
No, I don't care, I just don't live in a bubble and have a sane mental frame work (for someone who has lived over half their life on 4chan).

>>32238411
Ok tranny

>>32238465
That doesn't really narrow it down

She had 2 options to resolve this easily.
A) Ignore it.
B) Say you're gay so you find being shipped with men weird

She chose to make multiple responses with conflicting posts shipping bad, then shipping good. Then she complains about idol culture and this is dumb because while I'm no idol lover, it's pretty clear that Cover has very loose handling of idols. We all know about multiple talents having boyfriends or husbands, Bae openly thirsts for Roberu while other Choco or Marine talk about sex. From that you can pretty clearly see the culture you get from your fans is the one you cultivate, hence differences between fanbases when people itneract with men.

>>32238419
She read some SC that congrat her for getting Regis as boyfriend.

>>32238296
KEK
Fix mori's name

>>32238450
Someone should deal with this guy to protect Kronii.

>>32238414
>ex-gf cucked him
Oh yes he does hate woman. And I bet you anything if Kronii came out and said she would collab with males on her channel and nothing would stop her, you would INSTANTLY hate her and go on an anti-woman rant. Also I didn't bother reading the rest of your post.

>>32238419
Idk this is what shipper and the rest of the fanbase is wondering lmao either she's actually clueless of what's going on and is retarded or that extra unicorn revenue is too good to pass. I want to believe she's retarded but at this stage idk lol

>>32238455
Post a single Regis/Kronii ship fanart.
Go ahead.
Hey I'll make it easier for you, find more than 1 tweet that ships them.

>>32238414
>closeted gay men have never, ever dated women as a facade

>>32237102
I? gonna to draw just so I can start drama. Who does she wanna be ship with the least?

>>32238178
god fucking dammit, now i don`t wanna falseflag as a GFEfag/gosling/unicorn anymore. way to ruin it.

>>32238450
You didn't even get the details right you shitposting troll
>Be in a relationship
>Find out she's cheating on you
>don't immediately break up with her because her Dad* is a bro and feeds him Chili
>Finally breaks it off a month later

>>32238501
>We all know about multiple talents having boyfriends or husbands, Bae openly thirsts for Roberu while other Choco or Marine talk about sex.
Bae shit is onesided, Roberu doesn't even give a minimal fuck about her. Choco and Marine are literally vtubers for a more mature audience, and they have stablished that shit and the JPs respect that, so they don't actually really care about them talking about sex. I have no legit idea, schizo who the fuck of those has husbands or boyfriends nor do I care, but everyone had boyfriends in their life tfw no gf at 28. As long as they aren't doing that shit in the streams (specifically Mori's thrist at being accepted towards males while having THAT), they are fine.

Idol culture is unironically the best way to gatekeep the dogshit audience with the true audience.

>>32238450
>this is the kind of person that makes kronii's panties wet

>>32238556
>if Kronii came out and said she would collab with males on her channel and nothing would stop her, you would INSTANTLY hate her and go on an anti-woman rant.
Yes, obviously, she would be a disgusting whore if she did that. The only reason I haven't gone full schizo is her reasonable approach to her true and most loving and dedicated schizo fans.

>>32238643
Can you imagine a straight guy going home every day to his gay husband and getting fucked in the ass every night just to keep up appearances with a culture of homosexual norms? Yeah neither can I.

>>32238341
>because that is who she was calling out
your reading comprehension skills retardchama...she literally said she doesn't want shipping BECAUSE it makes some people act weird.
>>32238296
>worked for a fucking idol company for over a year
>doesn't know what idol culture really means
holy shit she's retarded, also why isn't anyone telling her to stop this menhera rant? Like you'd think Mumei, Fauna and Ina would tell her something at least.

>>32238611

>>32237317
If it wasn't for idol culture she still be broke voicing obscure lesbian games while crying herself to sleep. You think she be a little more grateful for it.

It feels amazing, sitting on my high horse, watching people who obviously didn't watch the guerilla members stream fight amongst themselves with their misinformed opinions...

>>32238717
>your reading comprehension skills retardchama
>this whole post

>>32238178
She's not telling you to have a meltdown when a girl collab with a man.
She's telling you to fuck off this girl if that's not what you like.
Also, stop falling in love with someone that can't respond to your feelings. I know it's easier because you don't have to do anything, but if you go that way, get us out of it

>>32238778
I haven't watched it yet I started the download and went to get something to eat.

>>32238717
laugh at this dramafag tourist hahahahaha

>>32238699
>gatekeep
You're naive as fuck if you think Hololive hasn't already long passed the point of gatekeeping.

>>32238778
Yeah, yeah. She's trying to appease both sides.
But please teach her how to not act like retard in public.

>>32237795
She pretended to not know the name of a hard drug she reference even when said hard drug is used by all the niggers she looks up. She gets high off codeine because she wants to be a nigger really really bad.

>>32238296
kek

>>32238419
Because half of her superchats were retards going something like
>You and Regis were so cute
>Would love to see you and Regis collab 1 on 1
trying to own the unicorns

Kronii either didn't realize they were sarcastic or just genuinely wanted them to fuck off so she shits on shipping

Then she realizes she actually likes her girl ships so she back tracks and says just guys

Then reddit and twitter get mad because now they think she's being sexist or hypocritical because she's ok with fxf but not mxf.
You are here now.

Mori's haters spent $250 to make her angry. Kronii, on the other hand, let third-world money supas break her mind. Her trolls have outdone Oppainut

>>32238296
I wonder if Mori was passed around by the niggers she drank cough syrup with.

>>32238717
Yeah the people acting weird are the grey names in her super chats telling her that her and Regis were cute. NOT the long time members complaining.

pic related what schizo incels that are still mad about this should do

>>32238934
>Then reddit and twitter get mad because now they think she's being sexist or hypocritical because she's ok with fxf but not mxf.
What happened to "you don't get to decide what she is and isn't okay with" that they were pushing when they thought she would be on their side?

>>32237312
oh no she's Calli

>>32239069
You first, discord troon

>>32239069
epic reddit meme XD

>join idol company
>unforunately idol culture exists GWAK
kill yourself kronii thank you, talentless big titty model

>>32238699
We cant discuss roommates but multiple popular girls have BFs, some are married and others even have kids. No one cares because they don't spend the stream talking about their sexual/romantic life and after Rushia leaks Cover even said the talent can do what they want in private.

The point of all this is the "idol culture" is extremely overblown. If Kronii just stopped talking about it, it would go away. Instead she just kept feeding the trolls all because she laughed in a stream with a man. Like fucking hell multiple girls have had legit issues and jsut ignored it, learn from them.

>>32238934
They need to realize that FxF isn't the same.

>>32239105
who's your oshi anon? So I can edit her in there

>>32239069
Right now actually most of her gachis seem really happy with how she reached out to them. The ones currently seething are reddit/discord who think she's a hypocrite for being okay with being shipped with the girls but not the guys and for telling them to stop dogpiling her gachis.

>>32237317
Based clock-kun

>>32237102
>VT
>moving on
roru. rumao

>>32239168
mori

>>32239168
Teste

>>32238778
>he didn't watch the super special secret stream so he doesn't know like I do...
And why the fuck should I care what excuses that dumb broad tries to cook up for her paypigs? She collabed with males and made retarded posts afterwards, now she is getting roasted for being the absolute dimwit she is.

>>32239136
>We cant discuss roommates but multiple popular girls have BFs, some are married and others even have kids.
None are married nor have kids. This is all schizos from the hags threads thinking a lot of bullshit. Also what Rushia leaks was irrelvant since everyone knew about that kind of shit. Idol Culture is okay for the talent, and separating the talent from the roommate is always a good thing. Also what do you expect from a non asian girl?

>>32239078
Redditors are hypocrites.

>>32239124
How are you that bad at reading comprehension when it was a soft-key way of saying "I'm a dyke and shipping me with boys is weird"
>unfortunately (FOR YOU)

>>32239069
Why was that deleted? Is this a new rule or something?

>>32237928
>sora would kick her in the teeth

Oh? The sora who is in the chat of every axel stream flicking her bean? That sora?

>>32237543
You couldn't be baiting harder if you tried

>>32238707
Wait, do you seriously not know what a beard is?

>>32239173
As a gachi bordering on full-schizo unicorn who was losing his mind on the day of reckoning I've calmed myself and am relatively satisfied with what she has said, I only have a little trepidation and trust issues left over from that day. She deserves some credit for talking me down from the ledge.

>>32237749
I believe it

>>32239306
idol culture =/= never talk to a man retard

>>32238178
Kronii didn't say they were bad people. She even agreed with this. That's why she won't have males on her channel. This bitch is just a leech trying to play to the 12 incels that watch her

>>32239306
Yes, I'm sure Sora wouldn't like the fact that Kronii is equating idol culture with unicorns and giving the term a negative connotation.

>>32239241
>Cover saying it doesn't matter what the person does IRL, just as long as they stay in character streaming is irrelevant
No.

That was them straight up saying they don't care if girls date or do their own things in their private life and creating a distinction between character and actress.

You're wrong about RM info and it's obvious since Kronii isn Korean, aka Asian. It's not important, but in the context of "muh idol culture" it is, since it shows Hololive is nowhere near as restrictive as people make them out to be compared to actual idols.

>>32237543
>every stream needs COCKS, i love COCKS so much i wish they rebranded to holoCOCKS
why are homobeggars like this

>>32239296
Jannies are banning the discord tourists

>>32239445
actual reddit spacing

>>32237102
Pulling back the curtain like this is not cool.

>>32239461
The only thinking of cocks and being cucked by the blue hair boogeyman is you

>>32238296
lmao post this on reddit see if they notice

>>32237543
>This is just proof that the idol shtick of Hololive is pure love and the one good thing in this world.
Fixed for you.

>>32237102
Nice 100 word essay nerd

>>32237293
Nothing she said poured an oil on the fire. Women don’t like being “shipped” with their guy friends. It’s weird.
And this is what her unicorns wanted, so I fail to see the problem. Unless they’re just seething that she didn’t come crawling back to them begging forgiveness, in which case, lolololol.

>>32237543
>I just want to watch fun streams
Then don't get involved with an industry that's obviously not for you if you don't appreciate the parasocial side of it.

>>32237102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KGqzw5eC0

ITT: shipfag assblast

>>32238178
Based. She gets it. Not all entertainment has to be vanilla for everyone.

soon

>>32239238
Because it is showing me that you were never a Kronie in the first place and are just here trying to start shit. By arguing from ignorance you have put yourself in the weaker position.

>>32239751
my other fav is when people freak out about chat suggesting things to streamers. if you want your form of entertainment to have no interaction with the audience then pick literally anything else than livestreams with chat interaction.

>>32238296
You forget remove the last @Mori

unicorns get the rope lol
can't wait for more homo collabs so you schizos can continue suffering. I don't even watch Kronii or the homos, I just want you people to have a horrible time everytime

>>32238414
Even if thats true, you're still an insecure Unicuck faggot for getting worked up over a homo in another country fucking your precious oshi.

Its hillarious how shes making everyone talk about shipping when shipping had nothing to fucking do with the issue at all

There are ZERO problems with shipping, shipping doesnt matter at all.
The problem is collabing with MEN
and opening yourself up to fanart of you getting throat fucked on your twitter timeline

>>32239867
lmao fucking tourist faggot go dilate

>>32239914
>homo in another country
do your reps baiting tumblr faggot, Kronii and Regis are the same

>>32239751
>muh industry
Fubuki is the head of the player’s union at Hololive, and she made her stance on the matter clear when she did her “I have a boyfriend” stream after Towa’s scandal.
You are the outlier. These girls don’t want your money.

>>32239688
>idol shtick of Hololive is pure love
For you maybe, not for the idols.

Not collabing with men seems to be the hardest thing ever for western and ID chuubas. It is actually amazing. I'm not even a unicorn and I still find streams with males very off putting. The CGDCT is why I got into vtubers. Now everything is being turned upside down because faggot Yagoo wants to copy NijiEN. And Mori should fucking kill herself. I hope she has one of those "OD'd in a bath" deaths in the near future.

>>32239867
You realize you're the most pathetic cuck here right?

>>32238178
She's right you kno

>>32237102
yeah seems like a pretty decent statement to put it to rest. she just needs to stop talking about it now and it'll blow over.

>>32239867
I think I'll start watching and supporting Kronii knowing her streaming brings pain to the mentally ill

>>32239927
Kronii addressing "shipping" and "tourists" covers and addresses what she has to say to upset gachis/schizos who are getting bombarded with comments by subhumans saying shit like "haha tempus is going to FUCK AND IMPREGNATE your oshi, anon! you'll never make her laugh like him!"

>>32239927
Just self-insert into that fanart. That's what you really want, isn't it? And it's not like that fanart doesn't already exist you schizo.

>>32239837
That's a lot of words to say nothing. She's a dumb cunt, getting shit deservedly. Keep trying to deflect tho, I'm sure the fellow Kronies appreciate it.

>>32239990
>For you maybe, not for the idols
No one forced them to take a job that exploits the fantasies of lonely men

>>32237102
>tried to deflect her homo thirst with shipping issue
>deflection spirals out of control
>tries to damage control
>tries to damage control the damage control
>tries to damage control the damage control of the damage control

>>32239241
>None are married nor have kids.
No one is known to have kids but 2 are confirmed to be married

>>32240011
>I'm not an unicorn but i'll proceed to seethe like one of them

>>32239979
fubuki is so irrelevant compared to a lot of the new waves and the fact she went hard on men probably had a lot to do w/ it.

>>32237241
she want to get dicked but also want simps money you know eat cake and have cake but she is hesitant since simps may get jealous

>>32239969
>go dilate
go die soon, lol
>>32240036
keep projecting, you ultra loser. your idol will never give a shit about you, and she'll always loathe your existence. she fucking hates you. maybe if you got a girlfriend you'd stop worrying about an anime cartoon on the internet interacting with males. improve yourself, cuck

>>32238178
Still not watching you, whore.

>>32240098
I have nothing to be mad about, I am not a shipper. I hope she cuts them off entirely.

>>32240086
You predditors have this narrative that people are mad because having males ruins their self-insert fantasy but I can’t figure out where it came from; could you explain? It seems more like you’re the ones into self-inserting and desperately need males on screen, and you’re projecting.

>>32239979
No, fubuki doesn't want unicorn's money. The majority of the girl's do and they know what they're getting into and fubuki obviously doesn't speak for them, she knows that herself

>>32239969
OOOH sorry I'm not an obsessive cuck to the point where I have to learn information about some Homo just so I can work myself up and Seethe about some fag fucking my Oshi. Keep crying. Maybe the bagger at Kronis grocery store will make a move on your oshi. Start sweating you pathetic faggot! Maybe I'll fuck Mumei since I also live in the same country OMGGGGGGG

>>32237102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AmcAqxbh4&t=4339s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AmcAqxbh4&t=4339s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AmcAqxbh4&t=4339s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AmcAqxbh4&t=4339s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AmcAqxbh4&t=4339s

>>32239867
You're an idiot if you think the people getting mad are 'suffering', the only people that are 'suffering' are the long-time gachis, if you saw the threads when it happened you'd know this since they just sounded dejected and neglected more than anything else. It's everyone else that's upset about what happened to them.

>>32240271
>OOOH
>OMGGGGGGG

Unicornchads pay the bills. Kneel or starve, bitch

>>32237102
Agreed. It was a big nothingburger in the first place.

Now ame on the other hand...

>>32240116
Find me the Cover mission statement about exploiting the fantasies of lonely men, please.
And also explain how it’s better for Kronii to manipulate you rather than speak to you candidly and with respect.

>>32237102
FEMALE = GOOD!
MALE = BAD!
Sasuga, retarded clock, now you're giving trolls more ammo by admitting you hate men (your fanbase)

>>32240125
If you want a normalfag comparison to know how I feel
>I'm a huge fan of the NBA, and now they are introducing mixed gender teams with WNBA
I dont wanna watch that shit.

>>32239751
How fucking entitled and delusional do you have to believe an entire industry just caters to you? Hololive is mainstream, there is nothing you pathetic unicucks can do about it. Would you rather have $5 memberships from hundreds of thousands of people per month, thousands in sponsorships, ad rev etc or an occasional $200 of NEETbux from retarded Unicucks?

>>32240376
it's called being an idol company

>>32240213
didn't read
kill yourself discord tranny

>>32240376
Kronii is a unicorn farmer. Cover is not an idol company. Idols actually do shit. They're a unicorn farm that makes their talents larp as idols.

>>32240320
>Get called out as an obsessive, insecure faggot for watching a homo, he claims to hate and is afraid of
>Copies the other person as a come back
LMAOO good one faggot

>>32240132
>>32240229
>F-Fubuki doesn’t matter
>the majority of the girls
Kronii isn’t one of them, and she has made several posts now telling you to fuck off. She could not have been more direct and candid with you.
If you have a problem with what she’s doing, she has made it clear that she doesn’t want your time or money. And there is precedent for Hololive respecting her decision to cut you out.

>>3224037
Why do you care if losers want to get manipulated?

>>32239927
>and opening yourself up to fanart of you getting throat fucked on your twitter timeline
she has already plenty of erotic fanart (and animations) getting fucked hard especially between her boobs, nobody needs to collab with men for that they just need attractive model and she has one of the sexiest one out there out of all vtubers. If i'd have talent and willl to draw then she would be one of my most drawn girls.

>>32240116
>victim blaming the streamer not the schizos

>>32240525
what do you think she was doing when she said “I won’t approach them” and “I won’t talk about them here or on twitter” and “I won’t have a POV, ever, so you don’t have to see them”

>>32237102
kronii chaturbate/fc2 debut with males when?

>>32240525
>and she has made several posts now telling you to fuck off.
She made several posts tip-toeing between telling all sides that they're wrong but also that they're hecking and valid. She hasn't said shit, that's literally the problem, she's still on the unicorn's side and she's also on the non-unicorn's side, the only side she shat on were the non-existent male-female shippers

>>32240617
>victim blaming
You have to go back.

>>32240332
Your pocket change means nothing to Cover. They want licensing deals and merchandising opportunities, not your simpbux.

>>32240627
damaging controlling so the mentally-ill portion of her fanbase doesn't commit mass sudoku

>>32240407
How fucking retarded and delusional do you have to be to think that the redditors crying for mixed collabs are actually the main fans of this hobby? I mean nijisanjiEN exists if someone wants that shit, yet HoloEN is miles more popular for a reason.
Also, lots of franchises in every media crashed and burned because they shit on their core fans while trying to go for a wider audience.

Kronii is so dumb.
Shippers weren't even part of the attacking forces.
And now she singled them out for attack and not they have reason to be upset.
How does she not realize that the only group that can be freely shat on are clippers.

>>32237102
all those falseflaggers? me
my purpose? stop whores from collabing with my boys

>>32240708
That doesn’t sound like “making it clear that she doesn’t want your time and money”. That sounds like the opposite.

>>32240776
sure thing, homobeggar

>>32240669
She’s not going to literally tell you “fuck off,” autist. She’s letting you down gently, and you’re not taking the hint.
It’s sad because I know you’ve probably had this same experience with other women who weren’t interested in you.

>>32240692
>They want licensing deals and merchandising opportunities
What's your argument here? In both hololive and holostars they're gender segregated groups as far as merch is concerned

>>32240776
I genuinely don't know how anyone other than fujos can watch this turbofaggot. I don't think I've ever heard a more obnoxious and fake laughter in my entire life.

gofundme meds for the Kronii schizos?

>>32240826
>>32240525
Kronii isn’t one of them, and she has made several posts now telling you to fuck off. She could not have been more direct and candid with you.
Anon it hasn't even been 5 fucking minutes between your post

>>32240835
My argument is the words you clipped out of the green text, retard.

>>32240881
you'd need a giant like Blackrock to fund such an investment

>>32240908
You're literally copy and pasting your own previous posts now.

>>32240881
They should fund a unicorn catching expedition

Just wanting to say that I'm happy (you) are here.

>>32240826
I like how twitter trannies keep trying this approach of calling others incels. You are defending an anime woman who earns more than your entire family on 4chan for free, you are a fucking doormat and there is nothing in this world women find more pathetic and disgusting. You're even below the average unicorn here and the fact that you keep projecting about sex proves you're the biggest fat virgin on this board.

>>32240936
NTA but who do you think is buying the merch?

>>32237102

>>32240376
>Find me the Cover mission statement about exploiting the fantasies of lonely men
Why would they make a statement that would bring them financial loss? Cover just needs the Holomems to pretend they care about their fans to make money

>>32240908
What do you think “could not have been more direct” means, autist? She’s not going to post “kill yourself lonely faggot,” even if Cover was okay with it. She hates bullying and people that talk that way.
You’ve been rejected. You may not know this, but women rarely tell you “fuck off” when they don’t want your attention. They drop hints and try to give you a way to gracefully back out of the interaction. It’s a normal courtesy used to deflate sexual tension between adults.
You failing to understand that she doesn’t want your membership or SC’s is no one’s problem but yours. I’m done giving a shit.

>>32241134
>income
>running out of arguments

>>32237102
The mori of EN gen 2

>>32240718
Good strawman, retard. So if you aren't crying for mixed collabs you are a unicuck? What if most fans don't give a shit one way or the other? You're the minority that bitches and whines and cries like a little faggot.

>>32241278
Your only argument has been calling others virgins you retarded fuck. Which tells more about your own insecurities than anything else.

>>32237102
Why can't she learn to just shut the fuck up

>>32241408
I'm not your anon but judging by this reply you are probably a virgin. Incels tend to swing that way.

>>32241188
If some schizo kills a bunch of people the blood is on your hands bro.

>>32241149
Honestly I think people keep forgetting the Merch is a Daki of Kronii erotically laying down in just a partially open shirt a size to big to imply it's yours, and a mousepad of her huge tits.

>>32241134
have sex

>unfortunately
>idol culture is a thing
Sounds like she doesn't want idol culture. And that is probably as polite as she could be about it.

I've never seen Kronii as someone who would embrace the idol / gosling / unicorn stuff wholeheartedly anyway. If you're a fan of that you chose the wrong oshi.

>>32241495
Telling this to incels gets you death threats. It's a thing they do

>>32241509
>I've never seen Kronii as someone who would embrace the idol / gosling / unicorn stuff wholeheartedly anyway
https://youtu.be/ohsk2FrZ40g
Yeah sure. Also great reddit spacing.

>>32241281
The woman understander has logged on to save us from ourselves.

>>32241490
>merch portrays her as a slut
>livid that she acts like a slut
fascinating

>>32240908
Anon, autists won't listen. They think the world revolves around them because they spend $100 in Neetbux money from gov handouts. Even if you point out how pathetic they are, the fact that the girls have lives outside of streaming, probably interact with males on a daily basis etc they will still get worked up over some homo that works remotely from their Oshi, just for the fact that he is a *Male. Guess what, the bagger at Kronis grocery store, the server at whatever restaurant she works at, the store clerk where she buys shit can all possibly be *Male as well. You might as well KYS Unicucks!

>>32241489
Good. Maybe Cover will get in trouble for their marketing and be forced to give up unicorns.

>>32241134
>>there is nothing in this world women find more pathetic and disgusting.

>>32241615
Yeah for even 3D idols most of their support staff is male. No one follows the unicorn path, that's just a mental delusion they made up in their heads.

>>32241281
>What do you think “could not have been more direct” means, autist?
Yes, a phrase does in fact have a meaning and it doesn't change depending on the person. Also by your argument she's telling EVERYONE, aside from female to female shippers, to fuck off

yeh

>>32241589
And? I can send you ASMR and even softcore from twitch girls with boyfriends. Unless you meant something other than just ASMR.

yeh

>>32240984
>>32241615
It's amazing how 2 posts can't even fucking read the quotes I'm replying to and simply infer that I missed the fucking greentext

>>32238188
t. Nijinigger

>>32239979
NTA, your argument isn't any better, who gives Fubuki the right to speak for other ? she may not care about it but she knows it's different for other and doesn't want people go to other chat talking about "male collab" basically just don't force anyone to do anything and let them choose what they want

>>32241674
> Yes, a phrase does in fact have a meaning and it doesn't change depending on the person.
Actually, it does. That’s why the subject of the sentence matters. Your imaginary girlfriend is going to be less direct with you than your father, for example (if you have one).
ESL?

>>32241583
Justified. You should go up to someone dying of thirst in the desert and go "DRINK WATER, HYDRACEL"

Incels are often through little fault of their own being completely deprived of romantic and sexual intimacy going on 20-30 years and being constantly degraded and mocked for it on top of that basic lack of basic psychological and physiological needs. The fact there aren't giant incel mass shootings every 12 hours is something you should be thanking and praising them for, they're being very generous and well mannered given their situation and the pressures on them.

>>32241784
Sounds good. Kronii has made her choice. And it’s not unicorns.

>>32241605
you don't get it anon, she's supposed to be MY slut!! only mine!!!
and all the other schizo fans that she's slutting herself to? they don't fucking exist! SHE ONLY LOVES ME!!

>>32241639
They do. And the fact that you are denying it means that you are either a turbovirgin or a woman mad she got found out.
Women like men love the actual challenge of love but differently, they like strong or dangerous men and they want to make them theirs and submit them. Read any woman erotica fiction of talk to any of them and you'll find out.
If you're a spineless cuck who already worships every woman like a deity they'll find you boring, you have literally 0 market value.

>>32241816
I won't bite your bait anon. That's one of the most retarded things I've read all year

>>32241816
No one deprived you of anything, faggot. The grocery store you buy food at and the company you work for don’t ask you what your body count is before they let you in the door.
>basic psychological and physiological needs
A retard AND a pussy. No wonder you can’t get laid.

Where are you cucks even coming from? I've seen a lot of reddit spacing and sub 20 IQ retards yelling "incel". So it's either ledditors raiding or nijicucks. I've never seen someone write like this on /hlgg/ or any general where people actually watch streams.

>>32239979
>head of the player’s union
Title you pulled out of your ass and not even translated properly.
Each girl has a different view and on average holoJP tend towards idol culture.

>>32241923
>>32241972
Sexual and romantic intimacy are part of the hierarchy of human needs along with food and water. No point talking with brainlets who don't know this.

>>32241796
>Your imaginary girlfriend is going to be less direct with you than your father
My father couldn't have been more direct and told me I was retard loser
My imaginary gf couldn't have been more direct and told me I was retard loser
Kronii couldn't have been more direct and said that she understands my feelings and validates them, and will do her best to please me even if she's going to keep doing the exact thing
That's direct?

>>32241816
One word. Well actually two on this board:

REAL WHORES

>>32241897
>strong and dangerous
Sure, fag. It’s really strong and dangerous the way you’re anonymously whining that your imaginary girlfriend made a post that hurts your feelings on her social media.

>>32241998
>literal, self identifying incels defending the schizo behavior right above your post
>it's reddit cucks boogeyman!!

>>32242059
Whores do not provide romantic intimacy and in regards to fulfilling sexual intimacy, prostitution is illegal in most places anyway. Hell, in regards to the actual "intimacy" aspect of sexual intimacy I'd argue prostitution doesn't even provide that. You can't even kiss a whore.

>>32242032
Romance is nowhere near the bottom of Maslow’s hierarchy, retard.
And your sexual needs can be met by jacking off or buying a hooker.

>>32241998
>reddit spacing
I had never used reddit until I heard this meme, probably from illiterates who have never seen a book or written an email. Next they are gonna call it reddit grammar if your grammar is correct.

>>32237102
But does she have a little monkey fella?

>>32242127
Just get a better whore retard. I could never understand how there are autists that SC this much and don't get a top tier whore with all package. Some could get real GFE but still spend thousands on the anime girls

>>32242203
vinny?

>>32237102
>>32237317
Bro why even do this? should have just listened to management and let this blow over holy shit, STOP.

>>32242032
>didn't say anything
False equivalency as if romantic intimacy should be a right lol. Oh noo society has failed me how could they not give me a girlfriend I must rebel against the people who actually tried!
Not taking responsibility for your own failures is quite pathetic.

>>32241852
>generally understood relationship where Kronii markets herself to a group of basically faceless fans all of which mostly understanding that none of them will ever be *significantly* closer to Kronii than the rest
vs
>kronii and male work colleague she is somewhat forced to interact with even if she would have been willing to anyway, has clear potential line of private communication open with, will collab with in the future, could even one day off-collab IRL
if you don't see the difference in perceived "threat potential" or why jealousy flares up in the second case but not the first, you might be retarded

It's like the difference between fans of a celebrity being jealous of other fans (why?) versus being jealous of a celebrity potentially dating another celebrity. The fan was never going to be able to be a part of her world, same as all other fans, but now is forced to watch another male become a part of her world.

>>32242325
Yes can you show me on the doll where the bad man touched you?

You can stop now you retarded tourists. You're the only ones left here circlejerking and talking about sex. Weird how the people calling everyone an incel can't talk about anything else.

>>32242034
It’s a football term, nerd.

>>32242325
She could be sleeping with her manager or sexting with Yagoo. If you're that concerned you should get the rope and end yourself.

>>32241998
They're twitter and reddit tourists who believe they have a say in this industry because they watched a few EN clips.

>>32242302
Plenty of people try and get nothing for it, plenty of people also never have to try and take all the credit. Plenty of people try and obtain moderate success where it's arguable if it's worth it or not but take what they can get anyway as a cope. You're probably the last of the three, or perhaps even more pathetically, you're the last of the three still working towards obtaining the scraps that he wants to cope with, putting in effort and desperately believing that you'll be rewarded and anyone who says otherwise is just an incel who won't try, so you out down internet strangers for seemingly being worse than you.

>>32242421
>football
that makes your opinion even more worthless. Wrong subreddit.

>>32242512
>been watching vtubers since 2018
Ok but ok

Kronii is a terrible communicator. No wonder she failed those voice acting roles.

>>32242325
yeah except she already have a boyfriend or husband for all you know and be none the wiser. Maybe the reason she's so confident about her status with co-workers is because she already has a fulfilling relationship.

>>32242443
>She could be *schizo rambling*

>>32242565
Go back, faggot

Can I get a qrd on what happened? Who was she being shipped with that set all this off?

>>32242655
well if that's the case it was over before it began and all that remains for the sanest Kronii gachi is double murder suicide

>>32242325
>threat potential
holy shit anon, it sounds like the biggest threat to you is yourself

>>32242748
Male collab.
Unicorns and idol fans don't like it.
Kronii says idol cuture unfortunately exists.

>>32242512
Really weird how the people who don't want cross gender collabs have actual brought some arguments like wanting the CGDCT experience, Kronii's poor comunication on this issue or the fact that this sudden change of policy after an entire year is weird. Meanwhile the ones seething and pushing for male x female collabs have been just calling everyone incels and started unironically talking about sex.

>>32242748
with pic rel.

>>32240332
uhhh why is Mori the most superchatted holoEN member then?
can anyone explain?

>>32240376
>Idol culture
>anime culture
>streaming culture
Do you even understand what type of fanbases they are WILLINGLY mixing themselves in?
Now you throw actual women who want to be treated as something they are not while pretending they are and you have a receipe for disaster.

>>32241816
Some people are born stupid and incompetent. I guess we should let any dumbass into any college they want. And fuck resumes, lets just let anyone get any job they want too! Its only fair right!?!

Yes, it sucks for stupid people and incels. But at the end of the day its up to them to work with what they've got. Asking to be praised for doing anything is Chris Chan levels of pathetic.

And thats the other thing I hate about Unicucks. They act like tough shit but as soon as you back them into a corner they start groveling and try to make you feel sorry for them. I fucking don't.
Now go rape your mother and blame it on society, you faggot

I hope all these normalfags get paralized from the neck down, just so they can understand whats it like to just not being able to find a gf/ get laid. Some people literally only rely on being parasocial for their "fix" without harming anyone, and even that is a problem for twittard virtue signalers. You are trash people and no amount of karma farming will change that.

>>32242843
the only ones seething are GFEfags and unicorns, though?
here's an argument for you: let the talent do whatever the fuck they want. don't like it? don't watch it. she doesn't care about you in a personal way whatsoever, you can leave

>>32241605
>Lewd artwork and merch gives her a free pass to be a whore
Beta bitch detected

>>32242956
Cry more. Learn how to spell "paralyzed" you dumbfuck. See above >>32242945

>>32242956
Whores, please consider it.

>>32242517
>boo hoo
>take all the credit
>obtain the scraps
How about you go to the gym, get a better job and actually have a fucking personality or something interesting to say before shaming others of having done so before you. A lot fail and try again until they stop failing. They don't run around bitching about it.
Maybe you get hard from people feeling bad about you. Do you have Andrew Tate merch all over your room by any chance?
>>32242956
I feel bad for people that keep trying and failing. I don't give two shits about people who blame "society maaan" for it. Be better.

>>32243018
>let the talent do whatever the fuck they want.
This goes both ways, why can't you simply let her manipulate lonely men by doing make pretend girlfriend? Seems to be what she wants to be with how much she defends unicorns

>>32241816
>>32242956
if you don't realize that you're spouting shizoid ramblings that would put you in a mental hospital and/or a watchlist, then I feel really sorry for you
I say this as someone who literally never had sex

>>32243018
>Vtuber does something stupid
>people discuss the stupid thing and bring arguments on why they didn't like it
>for some reason a bunch of retards get extremely mad at people not liking something and start calling everyone virgins and incels
you realize that even in the context of discussing anime girls on 4channel you still are the biggest schizos here, right?

>>32240875
That's because you haven't actually watched him past his debut and maybe some clips. Either way, most Stars fans don't want mixed gender collabs anyway. They never have any chemistry together and it's just awkward. That being said, most of Holoen lacks chemistry together anyway and they get on better with ID and JP members like Kiara with Reine and Subaru.

>>32243163
>dude go to the gym, get a better job, get a "personality" that appeals to some dumb cunt who has been run through in the triple digits and be happy with what you get, if that's not good enough shut up incel
>andrew tate
why would I follow a half-negro mutt womanizer who is essentially just the 2022 version of mid 00's PUA grifters, but for zoomers?
>"be better"
do you have inspirational feminist quotes and BLM posters in your bedroom by any chance

>>32237928
Sora interacts with the Holostars in stream chats and even did a call in on one of Roberu's stream. EN fans should just hang themselves.

>>32242563
No, faggot, that’s not how this works.
If you don’t even know a basic thing about sports, you’re such a colossal faggot that you don’t get a say in anything.

God, people whose identities revolve around not being a good/successful partner is SO hot.

>>32240525
>she has made it clear!!
>>32240826
>well she’s not going to literally tell you doe!!!
>>32241281
>She’s not going to post “kill yourself lonely faggot,"
Strawman argument going to the literal extreme like disingenuous faggot

>>32243163
True >>32242956 demands empathy but treats their oshi like shit and spergs out anytime they talk to a *male. LMAO fucking hypocrites deserve what they get

>>32243371
Sure, you should just do nothing and complain why your life hasn't changed. Boo fucking hoo.

>>32243311
>Vtuber does something stupid
no she didn't. she just streamed with other people
>people discuss the stupid thing and bring arguments on why they didn't like it
spamming the catalog and planning on how to properly harrass the people involved doesn't count as good discussion
>for some reason a bunch of retards get extremely mad at people not liking something and start calling everyone virgins and incels
have you considered that your behaviour warrants being called names? stop sperging and people will stop making fun of you

Unicorns are based.
Respect and embrace idol culture.
Parasocial LOVE.

>>32243321
I tried watching him recently and still had the same gay voice and fake laughter. Like if you are gay it's fine watch him but you tards unironically try to paint him as some gigabro, that's pathetic.
>most of Holoen lacks chemistry together anyway
yeah except for Kronii, she has some of the absolute best chemistry in EN with SNOT, she really didn't need this retarded shit.

>>32242880
Far as I can tell, Kronii’s doing fine. She’d rather you be happy watching other girls than waste time on her. She’s got more than enough support.

>>32243163
what a retard. do you honestly think that its always about self improvement when it comes to that? there are people in such conditions where they physically or mentally cant do that no matter how much they wanted.

>>32243470
>no she didn't. she just streamed with other people
Anon all these threads are about her retarded streams and statements that management literally told her not to do
This would have blown off and we would be getting Ame threads today if she simply didn't say anything

>>32243321
It's only a problem with some of JP because they have a giant stick up their asses. Matsuri getting drunk with Aruran and Roberu are genuinely funny streams. People like Kobo's collabs with Astel, Altare, and Uproar. Ollie's last collab was a bit awkward but Astellie streams are fun to watch and people genuinely like Foxdemon. Lack family and RoberuNightMea is also popular.

There was some hope EN would be different, but EN seems to be just as retarded.

>>32243466
Yes after a certain amount of time and effort if the game is determined to be pretty badly rigged with shitty odds/reward, you should stop playing the game.

Virtue signallers, mentally ill failed normalfags and other types don't believe a person should be allowed to do this and have their own escapes or spaces, so they invade them and tell them shit like "be better" and call them incels and demand that their spaces change to suit them while they still go about their cope filled half-failed-normie lives. Watching vtubers but totally improving themselves so they can hook that one run down single mom and step up and be a man for her and Brayden.

>>32243408
I’m sorry that you don’t understand what words mean, faggot.
You’ve made it clear you struggle both with subtle cues from women and with the arguments presented to you. Low-functioning autism is a bitch.

>>32238282
stop conflating fujos and yumes reeeeeee

>>32243715
Still waiting anon >>32242039

>>32243409
But most of people like that dont treat their oshis like shit. Why are you hallucinating just based on some 4chan schizo posts and falseflaggers trying to encourage more drama?
People that love Kronii literally just voiced their opinion on male collabs, no one threatened her or "treated her like shit".

>>32243379
Watch your sweaty niggers rub on each other all you want, fag, I'm not gonna kink-shame you, just acknowledge you have a luke-warm IQ

>>32238282
Do you know these are all signs of cuckoldry right.

>>32243522
>She’s got more than enough support
It would be fun to see her numbers if she came out during her debut and said that she has nothing against male collabs

>>32243609
Are you even in your late 20s, crybaby faggot? Or the usual beta “woe am me 23 year old forever alone college student.”
Women only get hornier as they enter their 30s. You could probably get your dick sucked just by going to a bar where working women gather for drinks once a week and waiting.
But you’d rather drink milk and whine on an anime forum.

>>32243371
>why would I follow
Because he's a posterboy for incel anger. That's how it usually ends up manifesting, in viewing women as objects, as obtainable goods, as something you or others use.
>>32243371
>do you have
Alright, stay the same retard. Maybe one day the government will invent social welfare for faggots.
>>32243531
Yeah it is. It's the only thing you can do and control. It's the only thing anyone can do, and you strive for the best you can. Genetic lottery didn't give you a symmetrical face? Develop a sense of humor, talent or get paid. Do SOMETHING. Society isn't some collective consciousness you can get to blame like a child.
Also there's a limit to how much you can empathize with the mentally ill. Should a patient with dementia have the same opportunities to fly a plane as a normal person? Mental conditions aren't the most attractive things.

>>32243470
Weird how none of that shit has never happened with Bae, huh?
Maybe some complaints are valid and the people who just yell "INCEL" and "unicorn" don't even watch Hololive but are just motivated by some twisted leddit logic. Which might explain why I haven't seen a single good argument from the other side other than ad hominem attacks.

>>32238934
>SIKE. They both get angrier
KEK. She managed to make every single party mad at here (except watching the world burn chads)

>>32243609
>you should stop playing the game
You said it

>>32243749
>not liking sports means I’m smart
Christ, faggot, no wonder you need a pretend girlfriend.

>just go to a bar and have sex with a woman you met for 5 minutes
>you have feelings for a woman on the internet that you've seen for hundreds of hours? You should kill yourself
Normalfags are sociopaths

>>32244023
Refreshing to see a new post by someone who isn't a batshit insane gaslighting subhuman normalfaggot.

>>32244023
>you have feelings for a 2D character that is larping as a girl interested in what you and other 10 mil loners have to say
quick fix

>>32243609
>if the game is determined to be pretty badly rigged with shitty odds/reward, you should stop playing the game
Then stop complaining and whining about the game if it has shitty odds and rewards.

>>32244023
>dropping the girl you’ve spent 100s of hours watching because she laughed at a man on stream once
The behavior of a compassionate soul, truly.

>>32244121
no but see he did all his homework in school and got good grades, he was SUPPOSED to get pussy

>>32244213
Anon in their minds that's how they had sex

>>32244115
A lot of the girls basically act like themselves and dont like the separation. Even Suisei said "this is me, its not a character". People fall in love with personalities, avatars are just a bonus

>>32244213
>dropping the girl you’ve spent 100s of hours watching
As far as I know the people complaining haven't dropped her yet

>>32244302
It's a temporary make believe that everyone involved is playing. When the stream ends a healthy human resumes their lives instead of daydreaming about his 2D girlfriend.
They're streamers, of course they care about their audience giving them attention. It's their entire career.

>>32244266
So many things wrong with Unicucks
>They want respect but will sperg out at their oshi for talking to a male and call others cucks for not believing in their delusions
>They say the game is rigged and that they have given up but clearly the game lives RENT FREE in their heads
>Because of that they still choose to play in the game but refuse to do anything different and then complain about the game being rigged
So basically Unicucks want society to change to get them pussy, they want their Oshi to conform to whatever they want and then bitch and complain when that doesn't happen, not understanding how the real world works but then complain that the game is rigged. LMAOO

>>32239306
Sora is the real idol that mastered interaction and PR
Towa, Fubuki and Matsuri got backlash but Sora is immune to all drama. Also being the highest seniority among the talents means she is untouchable in many ways. So fans won't need to worry at all.

>>32244523
Stop replying to yourself faggot.

>>32244539
Sora is treated like a cute retard who doesn’t understand the implications of her behavior. Her calling Roberu on his birthday is seen as innocent sweetness.
The day it’s revealed that Sora gets dick, she will be rolled up in a carpet and smoked like a joint.

>>32238450
>psychopath blue homo

This is coming from someone who have fantasies about having sex with 2D anime model lmao why you fucks bitters contrarian?

>>32244523
It's like entering a race with a shitbox and complaining that everyone else has better cars

>>32244760
>seething this hard
>projecting
are you the blue homo by chance? nigga come out of the closet already everyone knows.

>>32244847
Yeah I'm the blue homo that got your oshi and everybody's elses oshi wet.

Cope and seethe retard.

>>32244023
There are some appalling things they say:
>1. Why do you care, you're never gonna have sex with them?
They seem to not understand the concept of love beyond sex. They don't understand how someone can appreciate and respect all of the traits and qualities that go into someone, and how those can be inspiring and beautiful.
>2. Lol the gachis/unicorns should suffer more
Pretty off-putting, as they're laughing at people in love who are, yes, suffering. Those people aren't usually choleric and angry, they're typically hurt and dejected from feeling ignored, neglected, and betrayed. To laugh at people in that state comes off as quite twisted. The people you're seeing mad in threads aren't usually the gachis themselves, they're others who are upset at their treatment and all the concepts involved. The ones suffering are usually in a state of despair, coping, and hopelessness, trying to sort out their feelings of love and betrayal. Personally, if that happened to me I'd just be disappointed more than anything else, because I'd still have remaining love and appreciation for my oshi from the past.
In any case, the relationship between the personality and fans needs to be made clear. Then as long as there's proper awareness you won't have issues like the JPs, unless you're an idiot.

>>32244756
She will reveal it after she's done with the job.
Just like how other Japanese celebrities do. Quit the job and immediately announce marriage (or be found out)

>32244713

LMAO crying to the mod and actually having the faggot incel mod delete my post. Guess what, you're the only incel faggot here, as much as you want to pretend

>>32237543
Unicorns are against shipping you retard. This is all the fault of the shipping thing you normies like to do so much.

Since she hates her sexy model and idol culture, why she isnt in nijisanji then???
The greedy bitch just wants easy money, simple as that.

Oh gosh, unitard meidos exists for real. GET DOWN

>>32245042
Yes, I should feel bad for obsessive stalkers. How about you turn the mirror on yourselves. Why are you in this thread? Because you are afraid some Homo will still your Oshi and now you will respond with hostilities.
>>32237472
>>32237800
>>32238172
>>32238178
>>32240123
Ohhh but these poor Unicucks. They're actually nice people. They're victims. They didn't do nuffin. They aren't obsessive faggots. Stop laughing at them! LMAO keep cherry picking you faggot.

>>32245042
> They seem to not understand the concept of love beyond sex. They don't understand how someone can appreciate and respect all of the traits and qualities that go into someone, and how those can be inspiring and beautiful.
Show me the post where you appreciated Kronii for inspiring you to go talk to someone of the opposite sex.
Or did you just seethe about it?
> The ones suffering are usually in a state of despair, coping, and hopelessness, trying to sort out their feelings of love and betrayal.
Yeah, and so are prisoners and the homeless. Yet I don’t see you crying that no one appreciates how hard it is to sleep under a highway off-ramp and get fucked in the ass for a cigarette.
Perhaps this woe-is-me routine is why no one is attracted to you.

>>32245396
Like I said, the relationship needs to be made clear. This isn't a one-sided thing, and if you're treating it that way you're doing it wrong. Which is evident by the issues we're seeing.

And once again, because my relationship with my oshi is clear, I know she won't do that. She's made it clear that's where she stands. It's only my responsibility to believe her.

>>32245396
Oh yes, yes mocking them and put their dignity into the ground will resolve the issue. You absolute retard, calm down or go back.

>>32245442
I'm not a Kroniifag. But your comment is pathetic nonetheless, because you REALLY don't get love do you? It's not about 'just going out and hooking up with someone' it's a deep appreciation of a certain person because of who they are.

Why are you bringing in something completely irrelevant? It has nothing to do with this issue, we solve problems we see in front of us. Are you being serious that we need to bring in every aspect of human suffering in the world every time we come across an issue?

>>32238750
licking your employer's boots is shameful behavior, get real

>>32245042
>They don't understand how someone can appreciate and respect all of the traits and qualities that go into someone, and how those can be inspiring and beautiful.
You can love someone like this without developing mentally ill romantic desires that will never EVER be fulfilled in any way except through a lotion ASMR, and will only be a detriment to your mental health in the long run, superficially covering up a hole of loneliness or lack of intimacy you should fix in other ways before you start blaming society for being a loser.
It's like I love Lex Fridman and his podcasts. I wouldn't spaz out if he some day gets a girlfriend or quits. Same should go to any artist, content creator or streamer. If you truly loved them like this you'd actually be glad for them as with a friend.
>but thats not romantic
That's the point. There's no such thing as a one way romance except for delusional people and rapists. You're just a text with a message and a circle avatar that scrolls by their chat every once in a while. If that's what fulfills you romantically I'd suggest therapy.

>>32245963
It's just not something you're not capable of understanding, and that's fine, because people are different, and for some purpose I imagine. I hope you find happiness with the way that you are, despite what appears to be a bitter, narrow-minded attitude.

>>32246134
Believe it or not it comes from a point of empathy.

>>32246303
Hopefully it can be used for good then

>>32245781
utterly pathetic post. insisting there's a "deep appreciation" when that appreciation is so shallow it can't endure the person talking with a man on the internet, for their job. your "appreciation" is as shallow as any connection between two people could ever be

if this was about deep love and understanding, and not shallow sexual gratification, this conversation would not be happening now.

>>32246484
Once again you're mistaking angry people on the internet with gachis

>>32246134
>I’m so much deeper and more complex than you.
No you’re not, monkey. You’re a mentally ill faggot phrasing your objection to an intersex collab as carefully and politely as possible to obfuscate how pathetic you sound.
Your oshi is a crutch because you’re terrified of real intimacy, which involves ugly, 3D bodies and occasional personality conflicts. You will fall out of love with whoever your oshi is the moment she tells you she’s cucking you. So much for true love.

>>32246626
*the kronii gachis, in this case
>>32246669
You clearly haven't followed the discussion because the points have already been made. And nice random assumptions, mr. armchair psychologist.

Thanks Kronii I'm weird and serious

>>32246755
Nothing about it is random, retard. You’re a fickle loser whose feelings for your anime princess waifu are as fleeting and shallow as any shotgun wedding.
That other anon already nailed you to the wall. Now die alone.

If pic related is not management right now then they are not doing their job.

>>32247168
I'm just going to pretend that your insults hurt me so you can be satisfied. Ow, you win.

>>32245963
Why do you think that irl relationships are any better than parasocial ones, don't you know how physically and mentally devastating a bad relationship can be, are you really that sheltered? or you just have been led to believe that being in a relationship makes you better than other people and gives you the right to preach your fallacies.

>>32246669
>>32245963
>>32238188
>mentally ill
>mental health
why are you retards like this. McDonalds isnt healthy either, you gonna come in and police that too?
Cover sells parasocial relationships
That is business model
Every employee knows this
Every views know this on some level
If you dont like go watch any of the countless other companies

>>32247761
and yet it's you the performer in question is asking to fuck off. Maybe you don't actually understand what's being sold here

>>32238282
Bullshit no one wants cross gender ships. Welcome to being a normie, dumbass. Shipping is one of the most popular aspects of any media, flat out. It's rampant, whether it's anime, movies, tv shows, books or fucking fanfics. It's fucking EVERYWHERE.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
One of the most genre of TV are god damned soap operas, guess what? Shipping there too. And it's not from Fujos, it's normies - your mom, aunt, grandma, fucking everyone.