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>>32228263Sex
[Good News]Reimu is still a 4view!
>>32228263Zero sex appeal
>>32228361Okay, someone level with me.What's she like? Is she good? What's her "thing?"
there probably won't be another Holo JP gen this year, right? still seems too soon after Gen 6.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>54,023: Pekora (Hololive)>36,151: Rion (Nijisanji)>31,878: Miko (Hololive)>22,846: Suisei (Hololive)>18,732: Akina (Nijisanji)>18,035: Reid (Neo Porte)>17,741: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>15,650: Koyori (Hololive)>15,128: Gura (Hololive)>13,691: Mio (Hololive)>12,462: Korone (Hololive)>11,530: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,727: Towa (Hololive)>10,681: Ame (Hololive)>10,618: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,554: Towa (Hololive)>10,157: Nose (VSPO)Another month, Pekora inaugurating the scoreboard and the start of a month that promises to be skinnier than the crazy summertime
I really like these hours. When everything quiets down. When it just is about numbers, and how x can get better numbers , or y gets certain numbers.No horse race, no tribalism. This is when /#/ is actually a good thread.
>>32228433>PekoraWinsLOL.png
>>32228427I am expecting StarIndog
I genuinely cannot tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing for her, but I'm willing to say congratulations if it's a good thing.
>>32228433Common Pekora W
>>32228062Because they wanted legitimacy in the Japanese market. It really doesn't sound like they had a plan other than to hope to poach some ex-Holo and potentially ex-Niji talents.
>>32228427They will debut lne before holofes, thats for sure
>>32228433Vwhorejo cucks and nijiniggers on suicide watch
>>32228433>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY151x: Hololive83x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER30x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta27 more golds for Hololive to take the year
>>32228427KR1 and ES1 are the most likely
>>32228263PETE MOI LE CUL PEKORA!
>>32228506>ID getting another branchBro before Kobo hit the scene that branch was unironically what that dude shitposts EN as being like, I don't think they have plans to expand in that market any more than probably going for more ID gens since Kobo proved the market to not just be "EN-Lite" anymore. Something neither Niji or Holo could prove until that exact moment.
>>32228427I expect JP in either march or april next year
>>32228534kys crossposter
>>32228433Rion my beloved gal ojou... better luck next time, have a solitary lewd for the effort
>>32228007They branded themselves as Vshoujo JP and are streaming in Japanese + with the new law that basically recognized the chuuba = the person behind it (via Roa suing incident) they equally are accountable and are under scrutiny for skirting the law with Nazuna and Mikineko
(reposting)So, taking advantage of the lull between now and the (already deciedd) final tally, here is a part of a longer post, the usual>median of peak CCVand>true average of peak CCVfor the month of AugustWhile the main one is still in preparation, here is the> August median of peak CCV + August true average of CCV, kaigai only, 5 or more streamsHere are some comments* MEDIAN *1) As usual, Gura continues living in a different universe2) Mumei stays as #2, with Fauna following very closed as #33) Kobo and Mysta complete the top 5, and the 10k+ channels4) Ina, Vox, IRyS, Luca and Kronii complete the top 105) The "Kiara Line", for the median, held strong, with no NijiEN girl surpassing it6) Enna gave a good fight tho, keeping a 5k+ median on 18 streams and trailing kiara by only 237) Anya and Petra are no longer laughing matters, both outranking a great deal of their branchmates with close to a 3k median8) No NijiEN girl and no HoloID girl had a median sub 1k9) Only Nari Yang and Mika (from former NijiID and NijiKR) managed 1k+ in their respective (former) branchesand the punchline10) with a full month under his belt, Noir kept a 5k+ median and outranks all of Noctyx, all of iLUNA and all of the NijiEN girls, plus Kiara too* AVERAGE *With respect to the average it is all about retention and choice of content with events boosting this metric and SC reading, watchalongs and poor retention hurting it.1) Frankly, Gura should be Hors concours with regards to these comments, with no other kaigai streamer keeping a 10k+ in this metric.2) Fauna, boosted by her anniversary, is #2 in the true average metric, swapping places with Mumei3) Ina and Vox complete the Top 5, with the later swapping places with Mysta, renowed by his poor retention4) Kobo, Mysta, Kronii, Luca and Bae complete the top 105) The "Kiara line" does not hold for the true average, with Selen breaching it with her special events and Kiara dropping it with her long streams full of SC reading6) The only iLUNA to beat ANY Tempus in the true average is Zotto, which beats Regis and Axel7) No HoloID and no NijiEN girl dropped below 1k8) Nari Yang maintained her 1k+ but Mika slid below that threshold9) Suha Min, from former NijiKR, *almost* breached 1k as her average, likely on account of a special eventand the punchline10) Like for the median, Noir held a very good true average for this month, outranking every NijiEN but Luxiem and SelenLet me know if you prefer this format instead of making two posts (one for the median and one for the average).For the total table it will be two posts per cut tho.
This pekora needs to do this X to this y is absolutely hilarious to me. You guys don't know what you're talking about.
Now im curious did Marine ever have a meme clip that was on the same level as Fubuki's scatman or Miko's GTA or Peko's ogey ratt?
>>32228534>expand your company's operations (for a genre of entertainment that requires exactly zero physical space in other countries outside of your talent's room) to a region where IP laws are notoriously fickle and restrictive>for cloutThis is why Holo and Niji don't ACTUALLY make fucking expansions into subsidiaries and just keep everything under their own home corp.
>>32228433When do Vtuber agencies have transfer windows like sports so someone else has a chance. How much would Pekora’s transfer price be?
>>32228762lmao. based roa.
>>32228788not that i recall but she has ahoy
>>32228567Already a great start of the month
I feel like the combination of Niji losing August and the Kronii situation has led to the catalog being even more shit than usualThankfully I only really come here for the numbers thread anyway
>>32228788Ahoy and I'm horny?
>>32228762>with the new law that basically recognized the chuuba = the person behind itKek i never thought of that but that does kinda fuck them over
>>32228007>Kson should jus masterchef or whatever the new meta on twitch is.kek, she should!
>>32228772But anon Pekora needs to be breeded while there's eggs left.
>>32228788Does this count? I mean it did built up her already popular I'm horny clips
>>32228853
>>32228788https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmm8ig9P_Ak
>>32228433
>>32228890Connects the Coco = taboo shit for sponsorships deals to some companies as well
>>32228788If you guys want to skip the bullshit and figure out what "defined" a LOT of Hololive talent for people in global markets, I'll skip to it and give you the source document for a fuckton of EN fans, pre-EN itself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkwQ76DgPE8This is the foundation on which the Hololive Boom was laid in the West. Anyone Gen 4 and before was essentially defined to the West by this, and subsequent clips/streams/interactions altered it over time.
>>32228762>getting fucked by a ghostLMAO VshojoJP are screwed
>>32228854There's kson and mike cat meltdowns also.
I'm not celebrating a single Pekora win until I get some fuckin answers.
>so anyway I start clipping Gura and putting her in every thumbnailmust be easy to be Sushi. Gura interacts with JP? Clip it
>>32228762Don't tell me that kekson's rant is because of this
>>32228788>ogey rrathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacN1MzyeKowut?
>>32228762Niji somehow ended up fucking over Vshojo huh.
>>32228937
>>32229026he's dead anon, you've got to let him go
>>32229014They're all ghosts anon. It was a double edged sword with how they can protect themselves for slander AND cannot blur the lines with bullshit things like being in character
>>32229026formerly alive
>>32228788i'm horny!
>>32229041Melding the chuuba and the roommate sounds like something Kson would approve of
>>32229072
>>32229041what rant?
>>32228964Two and a half MILLION views and this is what they had to work with, huh
>>32229128Childlike figure
>>32229128
>10 minutes in on a buff steam>barely 3kHoly fuck Vesper declined. He used to get 6k zatsudans.
>>32229040Sushi is a unicorn bro so he’s alright in my books. I’ve had to block quite a few clippers that appeared on my homepage because of all the Tempiss shilling
>>32228964This is true. This video needs to be recognized as a historical document and put into the Holo archivesit may also be able to help explain why some EOPs have left and the EN box hasn't expanded like the JP box
2) Ayame return3) Botan outfit/Ayame 3D live4) Choco 3D live (I doubt Fuwa outfit reveal could beat 60k+ guarantee)
>>32229208
>>32229212he already beat ren zotto's un-Z'd peak for the day.
>>32229040not just sushi anon
>>32229126She only wanted the positives with none of the negatives I guess.
>>32228433I have a feeling the next weeks are going to go insane, does anyone else have this ominuos feeling? Like something is going to happen?
What are the demographics of starsEN? We know Luxiem is like 60-80% girls, but what about them? Are they the same or different?
>>32228433Towa and NoseSitting in a treeK i s s i n g
>>32229163None, schizos made up stuff because they can't see Coco happy.
>>32229212The unicorn hunters are too busy fighting wars on 4chan and twitter to give the man a view.
https://twitter.com/shishirobotan/status/1565279252408242177https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1565330737678946304back to back events for Hololive
>>32229212They reclined along with him
okay, but which chuuba has the worst name
>>32228567>151x: Hololive>30x: Pekora152 and 31, you mean?
>>32229300Story of her life i guess.
>>32229289On CN primetime as well
>>32229274
>>32229264Did Choco announce the guests list already?
>>32229338twii was with mumi
>>32229261It was big for Pre-EN, though, not so much Post-EN.That's the thing that laid foundation for Western fans to "pick a girl to watch streams of" without being able to understand them, at least, before the era of LiveTL truly set in during Late Summer/Fall 2020. It would be hard to assume that they went back because of this since, despite being useful as a very rough TL;DR for Western audiences in 2020, it's become downright nearly worthless in 2022 and wasn't holding up so well by 2021, either.
>Pippa mogging GuraSo, is Hololive EN officialy the 3rd biggest EN branch/corpo?
>>32229341more like they fucked off already once he collabed with a female and they saw that their "work" was done
>>32229357Roboco. the san at the end is so fucking awkward. like how do you even call her, Roboco-san-senpai/chan/san?
>>32229399
>>32229327>Luxiem is like 60-80% girlsretardo with no proof then open a topic about starsEN lol
>>32229327No data.
>>32229348lel, forgot ayame streaming is an event
>>32229349Post the peaks, holonigger.Don't compare irrelevant migdets like Tempiss to Enna.
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY152x: Hololive82x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta26 more golds for Hololive to take the year
>>32229349Enna peaked at around 6.3k, but the rest are all firmly below my alucard-bro.
>>32228388gay
>>32229472
>>32229357Seraph Dazzlegarden
>>32229495Both her and Chinman are event streams
>>322284335-10 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>32228769Now, for the global table, here is the>median of peak CCV, Top 50, 5 or more streamstable,I had to triple check that one because, to everyones amazement>Pekora took the month with a 40k+ medianHere are 10 comments1) Despite being Koshien month, Fuwa Radio Taiso month and, generally, a very stacked month for Nijisanji, Pekora reigned supreme and finished the month with a 40k+ median for the win with 26 streams2) Toya followed from up close, with 39k+ in 6 streams3) Marine completed the podium, 37k+ in 8 streams4) Nijisanji main channel and Kuzuha completed the Top 5 and, despite the massive Koshien numbers, the low attended streams hurt their medians5) Hololive main makes an appearance in the 30k+ club, with Salome, Suisei, Fuwa and Subaru completing the top 10, all over 25k6) Miko, Kanata and Gura complete the 20k+ club7) Hololive put 31 channels (6 EN, 1 ID) in the top 50, with Nijisanji putting 16 (3 EN) and Met from 774 Inc., Hinano from VSPO and GatchmanV representing the Indies making for the remaining ones8) 8k wouldn't put a channel in the top 50 this month, in an absurd inflation of the usual numbers9) Luna made in the top 50 with a 8.8k+ medianand the punchline10) Choco finished the month with a 10k+ median, with 14 streams.Anons joke with this sentence but it is appropriate: THE BOX IS EVIL! It can incline ANYONE putting the effort and having the luck to find the correct path to incline.Met incline is another highlight too, she surely is finding a "mini box" of collabs and special streams to incline herself.
>>32228659nah too much, maybe January
>>32228788Horny
>>32229546I don't think chinman ever went missing for 80 days, anon
>>32229357In the big corpos? Seraph Dazzlegarden is definitely up there.
>>32229462You never heard "Sui-chan-senpai"?
>>32229349Dumb Holofag, thinks Tempus can get anywhere near Enna.
>>32229357Hyakumantenbara Salome
>>32229544Gets me every time. Like a name from an extremely bad early-2000s 4kids localization.
What's the cumulative CCV for Rust war?
>>32229434Yes, looks like silpable ground for Gold.
>>32229543
>>32228433>Neo PorteNew Apex season or hal did something for once?
>>32229611this kills the ennafag
>>32229357Iofi and whatever the fuck her last name is, Pavolonia Reine ain't exactly running hot as an easy to remember name either for spelling purposes, and "Hakos Baelz" was a genuinely a fucking horrific name to give someone because you thought>Anagram of "Khaos Blaze" sounds so rad for a chaotic girl with red as a dominant color!like the person naming her was fucking 14-year old me coming up with an OC. If we're limiting to Hololive.
>>32229369>>32228433my bad>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY152x: Hololive82x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>32229634around 160-170k but its not reflective since people are jumping pov
>>32229568Gura finished with 20k+ again? Wasn’t she declining, I remember her getting a ton of 13-15k streams a few months back
>>32229611>>32229508Sorry but you got to face the facts, this is enna's numbers now after coombaiting. People aren't gonna stay to listen to her talk with that shitty ass voice.
If Noir can't win against the midget of Noctyx (a flopped wave) he should graduate
>>32229634Around 180k
>>32229568
>>32229760
>>32229445(Me)
>>32229568Damn Met is inclining super hard.
>>32229434LuiNoelLaplusTowaLunaSubaruBotanLamyUi
Damn the Rust final war was fun. I've seen more POV than people that are sieging Pekora's fort though. Where are the EN (sans Gura) doing? And what are the ID doing?
alright /#/, when should I wake up?
>>32229680>New Apex season or hal did something for once?It's not either. Hal figured out that betting his house on APEX is sinking his company and is branching out to more in company collabs of other games.In this case it was a Mahjong collab, 2 Neo Porte, Sakina and Senba (Indies?)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDzw3aZRqto
>>32229714Bae's name is terrible because half the time when a new viewer sees it they just see Ballz
>>32229760Woah that Looks good kek
>>32229743>>32229779And how's that compared to MC summer festival?
>>32229894bigger iirc
>>32229369no i don't
So Pekora actually trying to adopt Koyori and incline her during the final war in Rust but she is too retarded to open the note? I get what Koyori hatewatcher is worried about now. She is actually retarded and it is the only reason she can't incline even more despite streaming regularly.
>>32229760Pink Koyote dies feel bad about not getting the memo
>>32229568>Choco finished the month with a 10k+ median, with 14 streams.EVILEVIL, EVIL, BOX
Such a kino rust session. Really unfortunate for other holos who missed it like Subaru.
>>32229831It worked out okay in the end, because as we see in your very post, it has a cute nickname in Bae. Which is what everybody calls her 99.99% of the time. But yeah it's a bad name.
>>32225196That's why despite being on top I always view Peko as an underdog who succeeded despite lacking in all those areas
>>32229819never
>>32229937shut the fuck up already and let me be mad in silence
>>32229568>Kanata 20k +>Kson going menhara with her low numbersHuh??? Did Kson and her breaking up really cause all the Kson fags to jump ship to her or something.
What sort of numbers can we expect for Fuwa's outfit reveal? He was casually pulling 30-60k CCVs for all of last month.
>>32229660>>32229812Oh wow that's kind of underwhelming I guess.
>>32228433>>32229976
>>32225601The TNT Cannon? Hello?Also the compilation of people falling into her pumpkin trap.
>>32229818>ENsMori was Sherriff RPing until she realized no one was playing along, Ame was fucking around, Bae was doing the same, They were all kind of fucking around, really. True of ID, too, I think.
>>32229894MC summerfes had about 200k IIRCWhich was surprising considering how little hype went into it
>>32230023Oh hey long time didn't see your play by play of Koyori's stream. I thought you gave up on her.
>>32230065kys crossposter
>>32230042not gonna beat choco, why bother
>>32230031Those are fake news
I feel like this thread talks about Gura a bit too many times. No shit, there was one instance when Flare was streaming and the thread is filled with back and forth Gura, even the shitposters. Usually there will be a "X 4k" or something, but that period was none about Flare.
>>32229937like im so fucking mad that she's literally just coping on twitter and she's not gonna learn shit from this
>>32228488>Pax Avgvsta Pekorana
>>32230065Ive never seen any pekora meme clips being referenced outside hololive though
>>32229937Koyori could have inclined a lot more if she wasn't so fucking retarded
>>32229818Only Gura wants to be an Idol. If the other ENs or IDs get too close they will receive invites to JP concerts and they don’t want that
>>32230065Pumpkin cake~Pumpkin cake~~Also Neko Mikuri's Pekora clips back then were all extremely popular.>>32228433>>32230064
>>32230089>They were all kind of fucking aroundLmao what is the point of streaming that kind of shit in the last day?
>>32230127choco is 50k at most. she's a midget.
>>32229762kek holonigger seething
>>32229937Koyori failed the test, and now Pekora will ghost her.
>>32230001She's DESPERATELY lucky that people ended up going with "Bae" for her, and managing to not make it sound like they were calling her Bae, as in the term for "My Side-Chick."Genuinely, if they didn't have that stick, God would've been her enemy at that point.
>>32229568>40k median with 26 streamsJesus
>>32230120i was just mad in the holox thread and in hlg
>>32230133English-language board posts about the biggest English-language vtuber a lot, shocking
>>32228433>>32230175
>>32230187There is a guarantee of shuba Luna when she does a live at this point. I think she gets to 60k like Mel and Azki
>>32230065The TNT Canon clip was hosted by Hololive Moments, and as such, was ghosted into the aether.
>>32229961
>>32229568Technically pekora only have 25 stream the other stream that you count is when there's technical problem with her dqmj stream so she restarted her stream.
>>32230177They mostly just wanted to have fun.
EN 3 is gonna debut during Nijifest. You heard this first.
>>32230284
>>32230042last one was nearly two years ago and got 88khttps://playboard.co/en/video/qqWqSCmwv2cdefinitely not expecting that this time but i can see 60k to make it competitive
>>32230057big draws would be towa, laplus, ui, and maybe subaru but yeah, 1/3 of the roster being neutral/debuffs makes me keep my expectations low
>>32229736Pekora's come such a long way. I remember that one clip where she was in awe at Tyler1 streaming for 30K viewers consistenly.
>>32230310In normal days sure, but viewers want to see actions on the last day.
>>32230359
>>32230300I would adjust for that but with 472 tracked channels there is no way the manpower needed to check each stream for that would be worth it.
>>32230347Cringe
Holy shit, it's flooding clips from these Rust streams right now, every refresh and a new one pop up
>>32230350Nijichads have nothing to fear. Council was a flop, Tempiss was a flop, EN3 will be a flop too.
>>32229568My kneess are shattered Pekora... What will it be during your most bufffed months(October/November)?>>32228433>>32230269
if ENs weren't such autistic dumbasses that hate generating content they'd have banded together as some sort of branch wide death squad. obviously they'd have failed but that would have drawn their viewerbase to watch them specifically. Oh and put out some fucking schedules instead of guerillasGura was right to ditch them
Tempiss fags will slowly turn into Gura antis as they see their boys never having that Luxiem boom while Gura keeps chugging along with 20k+ streams.
>>322284272023 March at the earlierst
>>32230422
>>32229760lmao
>>32230001Yeah the nickname is the only thing saving that horrible name.
>>32230350Had to look it up, but it's October 1st and 2nd? Actually yeah, pretty good chance. That's a pretty good slot for the debuts, one of the only good options until November.
>>32230465>Nijichads have nothing to fearI've seen pictures of "Nijichads." Considering how Nijifest tends to go, I think they should at least be afraid of Covid.
>>32229894This is Summerfest peak, a lot of 10K+.This Rust war is too Pekora centric
>>32228433> Another month, another day, another Peko gold.Ah... home.
>>32230347Pure sex
>>32230429Yeah i understand that.
>>32230392I remember a lot of discussion on her in /hlg/ involved Sugita back in early 2020 so it was nice to see him comment on her post a few weeks ago
Some people have made some good meme on koyori's dumbness.
>>32230481EN branch has no unity. Myth members rarely talk to each other nowadays.
>>32230497
>>32230366>big draws would be towaWhat went so wrong, how did we get to the point that fucking Towa is one of the big names?
>>32230459>hit refresh>rust clips and gura duolingo in my recommendations why is youtube recomending me a video from a year ago?
>>32229812Ui-mama guest!? Is she going to dance
>>32230481Gura doesnt even stream regularly any more retard. That whole branch is just either doing the bare minimum for money while letting their fans cry in the void, or trying to stream a lot to no avail due to no demand.
>>32230488It is by no means hyperbole to say ALL of EN's numbers flow down from Gura and who's closer to Gura at the moment. The fact that she is the everlasting, unassailable idol of 'no way fag" inherently damns Homostars to a 3rd rate EN branch even if every single other EN collabs with them. There is simply no one to donate views to them.At least they have Kobo.
>>32229163some mengen shit got leaked, it's in the archives
>>32230488
>>32229568KNEEL TO THE QUEEN OF NUMBERS
>>32230530It would be irrelevant without Gura
>>32230579power of the box. plus i like her dumb loud laugh and her smoker voice buffs her singing
>>32230629Now say that without WEEPING.
>>32230002People get bored watching the same novelty. 2023 she’s declining
>nijiposters still seething about TempusIt's been a month, move on
>>32229568> 5 Nijis in the Top 10Well damn, I guess it was mainly thanks to Koshien buff?
>>32230588You will watch the duolingo stream. This is non negotiable.
>>32230725Nijiniggers and homobeggars are one and the same.
>>32228433>>32230466
>>32228263Yup pekora is not sexy, not gonna change my mind
>>32228788Festival Bandaids and Cat Mario (which is how I got in).
>>32229818Rrat and IRyS were hanging around with Luna.
>>32229163>>32229339>None, schizos made up stuff because they can't see Coco happy.Come on, I love that bitch but she ranted hardcore
>>32230575
>Pippa's buff event stream gets slightly more viewers than the rants of Niji EN doing debuff streamsHolosisters shit up the thread with their shitposting>Pippa mogs the shark, the strongest "idol" of HoloEN in superchats >>32229445*crickets*holotrannies everyone
>>32230595maybe, i dont even know how are the pairings are going to go since these groups just all blend together
>>32230572Koyori the lovable retard
>>32230572what does ituka uragiruzo koko. I know uragiru from that scene in AoT and Koko as here, but what does the full sentence mean?
>>32230760Will never be hot
>>32230572Koyori you dumbfuck you could have inclined hard with this event AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>32230783I assume they are all just wandering around aimlessly as always.
>>32228433>>32230760
>>32230794I wonder if there is actually people secretly cheering her on
kek the schizo is still trying
But everyone in EN put out a schedule this week except for Gura, Ina, Ame, and Irys
>>32230807alright I'll bite. If you think SC makes up even a quarter of Gura's revenue you're too stupid to be on this board (and that's saying something)
>>32230169Ina, Kiara and IRyS would love that.
>>32230807Sorry that your bait doesn't give you (yous). It was low effort and I give it a 1/10.
>>32228788>Now im curious did Marine ever have a meme clip that was on the same level as Fubuki's scatman or Miko's GTA or Peko's ogey ratt?Matsuri Bandaids. This clip might have thrown a HUGE segment of the EOP audience in the rabbit hole back then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqHs4VTb2FUShe was a proto-Coco, SHATTERING the social expectations of how a Hololive "idol" should behave and that was like catnip for the EOP audience
>>32230858I'll eventually betray here(them)
>>32230595she's going to get raped, by me
Pekora is sometimes sexy
>>32230794Is this about how fulgur looked like he was avoiding kson during the ironmouse anniversary thing?
>>32230876>>32230768(You) will never not be a faggot.>>32228433>>32230908
>>32230963*never
>>32230801
Wait, I just noticed that Suisei streams like 10 times per month, and she usually only stream buff contents. She is not exactly a first army outside of it. Her Tales of Arise shill stream only got her 6k ccv lmao.
>>32230902sorry no leeching for today koyowhore
Could garry's mod be a good place for Holos to socialize with the condition that there's no copyrighted materials in place?
Oh god not this first army timeloop again.
>>32230941I agree but Ina is busy with RM stuff, she collabs with them anyways. IRyS would love that but no 3d. Kiara on the other hand is leaving a sour taste in everyone’s mouth with how whiny she is. Maybe she is hard to work with.
>>32230807You really hate people using the same flawed arguments for Pippa that you nijifags use for NijiEN, huh?
>>32231009
>>32230930Meant for >>32230481
Real talk but can streaming more regularly help some of the low tier EN like Ame or Mori? Dunno what it is about them but seeing their numbers I feel like there is no saving grace.
>>32230963*always
Who cares about muh first army, Gura matters more than any of them.
>>32229026Bum bum cha crushed him last night anontachi, it was... A sad sight to behold.>>32230988>>32228433
>>32231091White women are all whiny you just have to get used to them.
>>32231109they're both just fucked by debuffs most of the time.
>>32230807sorry anon we're currently in the sc doesn't matter phase since february when niji started winning every month, check back later when holo start winning again and people go back to thinking they're important
>>32230572kek
>>32230807>AIEEEEE TAKE MY FUCKING BAITPathetic, sister. Please don't ruin comfy hours with your nijiniggery
>>32231024I mean, contents are contents, if Pekora just do crap like Cult of the Lamb her average will drop too. It's not something to discuss about.
>>32230740Only Kuzuha and Niji main channel are Koshien buffed there. Toya and Salome are Niji 1st army. Fuwa had his morning show.
>>32231056Anon, everything has copyrights, and that's the problem with shit like Garry's Mod, they have to seek the copyright permissions to every little thing that they choose to use there. It would make for kino shorts though.
>>32228433>>32231136
>>32229812Okay. This is sex lineup. 60k floor
>>32231056It's a little freeform and creativity-focused, I don't think it could ever become a big arc like Minecraft or Rust. The nice thing about MC and Rust is that you can participate at any level you want. Not good at games? You can still show up, mine or gather materials, join an alliance, help out. Smart and a good designer? Make cool contraptions. Good leader? Form companies and war bands. Little gremlin kusogaki? Run around and spy on people and eat food out of their horse troughs. It has something for everyone.
Why the hell do Nijifags keep on bringing Pippa up?
>>32230807>muh scliteral nijifag and tempiss behavior
>>32231109Consistent scheduling helps secure the floor, while FotM contents help raising the ceiling.
>>32228433>>32231232
>>32231254Because their own talents are uselessThey literally have to use a 3view who had a celebration stream to compete
>>32231198Yeah certainly. However I've never seen Pekora dropping below 20k peak for Cult of the Lamb though. Subaru and Miko probably can hold at least 10k for any shill stream that you can think of.
>>32231109despite what /#/ might tell u all of holoEN could be 10k chuubas if they dropped the debuff shit
>>32230629I always wondered why HoloEN is more popular than NijiEN even though NijiEN streams more than HoloEN
>>32230944Man fuck Lyger but his translations are night and day from the machine translate SEA shit we get nowadays. He even slightly localizes her words to sound more natural in english
>>32228433>>32231305
>>32231344Ogey
>mogged by a woman larping as a man Embarrassing
>>32231056>>32231245Just do Roblox. It's better for numbers and the audience can probably adapt easily since Minecraft and Roblox viewers have overlap anyway.
>>32230807Isn't Gura the lowest or second lowest in SCs in all of EN?
>>32231254Pippa mogged NijiEN's newest additions that's why
If Pippa collab with Romanian TVee, both of them would incline.
>>32231198>, if Pekora just do crap like Cult of the Lamb her average will drop tooWhle that's absolutely true, here are her 3 runs of that game. >All of them 20k+
cant wait for Pekora becoming a hag
>>32231342
>>32231372if you can't get to your head that streaming more doesn't equal to being popular then I don't know what will
>>32231254She got better numbers than some NijiCN. Also, she's ironically /here/.>>32231372Artificial scarcity. Also, somehow being less retarded.
>>32231109There's nothing wrong with how often they stream. But, along with Bae, Mori/Ame are the timeslot hopping, overlapping, debuff loving schizos of EN
>>32231254Because pippa fags where shitting on Iluna so now they are trying to falseflag to get Holochads to shit on pippa and have holo and phasefans fight. It’s sneaky but they have done it so many times it’s not believable.
>>32231109>Real talk but can streaming more regularly help some of the low tier EN like Ame or MoriNo if they continue to stream debuff shit
>>32231389>Tempiss have already fallen that low that even their star member does worse than fucking YugoGrim...
>>32231254It's their attempt at shitposting after the "Day of Shame" that was Pippa's Nijiratfuck when she was beating Nijis as a startup corpo chuuba.
>>32231400No wonder 50% of her content are members only streams.
>>32228433>>32231378
>>32230807Real question, does Pippa actually read them? Like, reliably? Or is it a fucking gacha.
How do we save Holo EN?
>>32231406Pippa Metokur Collab would be better.
>>32231408Yes, that doesnt diminish my point about playing game that is not FOTM will reduce average though? Since that anon was bringing up Suisei and a 6k Tale stream.
>>32231414
>>32231372>I always wondered why HoloEN is more popular than NijiEN even though NijiEN streams more than HoloENFor the same reason the World Cup is more popular than the Brazilian Third Division despite the former only fielding 64 games while the later has over 500 in the season
>>32231400If she streamed regularly she'd get more, if she read superchats like everyone else she'd get more, but she doesn't do any of those so it's pointless to compareAt the end of the day she gets around 1k per public stream which is fine
>>32228433>>32231472
>>32231389So Noir's average peak would probably be ~ 4k, Magni ~ 3 to 3.5k reclining, Axel 2k and Regis would incline more and probably pass Noir at some point.
You know, I hate the fact that of all the thing people /here/ mention about Pekora, dare I say NO ONE brought the absolute kino trip that was >PEKO GEAR SOLIDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBhFtvpsC64&list=PLcp3ZSDti-utiG9UL9h4oPgzR4LtPwLof&ab_channel=PekoMainsSame reason I still fucking hate Konami to this day for robbing the newfags of something like this Like, to me, this and Fubuki playing Ace Combat have just as much, if not more, impact than all the initial meme stuffs, because it shows that these anime girls back in the day do enjoy the same kind of shit as hipster young me
>>32231524>Kino days
>>32231524
>>32231344It's not even the debuff shit that's the problem. HoloEN legitimately doesn't have a consistent streaming schedule that would make for a draw to their streams. I keep saying that they need to enforce a block programming schedule of some sort to get people to tune in.
>>32231372Mori Kiara and Ame stream the most in HoloEN and are the least popular ENs.After a certain point, streaming more doesn't make you more popular and it might actually be a debuff because people will never be able to catch up on your older content.
>>32231479She reads $2 sc frequently
Lmao. Nijifags are so insecure they are now pitting Pippa with Holos.Is Pippa based?
>>32231510The point is the scale. A 20k to 6k drop is not the same as a 40k drop to 30k, 20k.I disagree with his point tho and agree with yours,Suisei is unmatched across the industry and if she's not First Army because she has some low streams NOBODY ELSE (other than Pekora) can claim the honors
>>32231453Contents matter that much? So, who in Hololive stream debuffs consistently and still grow consistently anyway?
>>32231460Does Gura have sc on members?
>>32231524Who's the one who wrote Kuso usagi kek? She seemed to be real mad by that(gosh her sniping them from afar with a rocket launcher was pure kino too).>>32228433>>32231590
>>32231500Even better, stream with Andrew Warski. I know old man Sargon is anti-weeb but it is worth a try.
>>32228932the video that made me watch vtubers
>>32228769Uncle Nowa sugoi!
>>32231604She still got 53k Not even a year after her debut, after all. The series of playthrough was absolutely kino
>>32231496If you think about it, their buff game is only Minecraft
>>32231592Orange curse.
>>32230572Story-wise I think this was the better move for memes I would say. Her straight up seeing that note and things going as planned would've been boring.
>>32231389>drawing nijiEN>making nijiEN donuts (HAND CAM)>making nijiEN in /game/whoa. lots of creativity going on in nijiEN lately
>>32231389>before the 1st female collab his peak was 5k>afterwards it was 4.5k>after the 2nd collab his peak is now 4khuh maybe that anon who thought that unicorns and unityfags is a sizable amount of his audience might be on to something
>>32231524It's kind of weird that one day we'll look to moments like this and feel sad about it.
>>32228433>>32231690
>>32231648
>>32231781every week there's a "making nijien" that it's actually really fucking ridiculous.
>>32231056I'm honestly hoping they have a sandbox type thing going on with HoloEarth. It could probably replace Minecraft if it's good enough.
>>32231680depends since one persons debuff is another persons buff like subaru and jrpgs
How much did Kson and Nazuna get when they debuted as their indie self in comparison to their Vshoujo one?
>>32231691Does Andrew warski even have good viewership these days? Internet bloodsports is like an old relic at this point. Atleast Metokur can still get 10k viewers in his monthly streams.
>>32231765What buff content is for the West is more in line of what will be their buff contents. The JP has a myriad amount of buff contents like Yakazu, DQ, MC, some more.
>>32228433>>32231808
>>32231849pomu is going to draw EN later today as well...
>>32231690pol
>>32231679NTA but it's just a matter of floor vs ceiling. Pekora streams consistently every week, so naturally she has a higher floor. Suisei streams occasionally here and there but has no consistent schedule to speak of, so naturally her floor is much lower.
>>32231109>regularlyconsistency > allif you stream every day but one day at 8am, another day at 10pm and the next day at 12pm, it's not going to help.Consistent timeslot is key. It doesn't matter if you stream once every 2 days or once every 3 days. As long as you do it in the same timeslot, and as long as you're interesting with content (or at least have a decent sized niche to appeal to), people will come and watch you.
>>32231790He literally peaked at 5k two streams ago retard
>>32231750She trended on JP Twitter at the end of the MGS4 stream back then IIRC50k on a regular stream was a pretty big deal at the time
>>32231876Subaru is too much of an outliner, her JRPG is great, her watchalong is great, MC and Rust in mass POVs though are not. She seems to depends on contents no one was streaming at the time.
>>32231984I hate Konami so much. A nobody like Pomu can freely play Metal Gear, but Pekora can't touch it.
>>32231690If i heard it correctly it was polka kek
2 more days before we get to see the full holoEN box, can't wait for sub 30k stream.
Damn, that is a lot of Pekos and not even a single of them is arousing.
>>32231790Greyview unity begger>My job here is done,. Suck it Unicorns, i won't watch the boys now that they got a dead sub boost.
>>32231604Anon that's because those weren't clips, the early holofans watched this kino shit LIVE.50 fucking k CCV in 2020 man, unheard of at the time.
>>32232018Pomu>Pekora when it comes to making Metal Gear entertaining
>>32231690
>>32231799Just enjoy every moment of it anon nothing is forever after all
>>32232041Depends on whose channel.Kiara: YesGura: 50-60k, 80k if big announcement
>>32232084categorically incorrect
>>32231906>>32232030>>32232087That damn fatty kek.>>32228433>>32231901
>>32232077The JP are crazy when it comes to entertainment, I think critikal dude talks about the biggest stream of all time in JP is when they torture a guy in isolation.
>>32232150Konami seems to think so
>>32232146>holoEN>50kyou're joking, right?
>>32232051Which bring us to another conclusion that pretty much everyone outside /here/ have already known>Subs matters more to the general audience compare to CCVWhich is why Gura having 4M sub actually generated more clout than someone like Pekora who btfo everyone in CCV
>>32232227HoloEN is bigger than any other branch.
>>32228433>>32232181All according to PekoNote.
>>32231966the silence speaks volumes
>>32229568Goddamn! The box is indeed evil. Thanks as always chartanon orz
I was thinking, could anycolor steal Holocure and make an official mobile nijicure game, then I realize, what can they do to innovate on that game without being too similar or what skills and ults could they give to the talents? They're barely non-existent while Hololive has tons of references or self-made memes. I tried thinking what else could they do, they can't do music-related games because they're not a music-centric company, just a streamer one, not a whole lot of solo OGs too.
>>32232228By this logic Pewdiepie or xQc generates more clout than a guy in, say Nigeria, streaming to 100k people every night?
>>32231604That's literally where ogey rrat comes from, I doubt many people would be unaware of it.
>>32232227Bruh, if Council can get close to 40k for their anniversary you need to have a low IQ if you think Gura cant get 60k with proper announcement
>>32232077Anon, I was there when she cried herself out at the ended of MGS 4But now that the VODs are gone, the only thing left for newfag are clips like thisAnd I bet my two whole nut that IF the VOD are still around, it will generate as much number as Gura VODs
>>32231790Females collabing with Males is the most anti unty thing they can do. Now it’s a clique of Pro Stars En vs Idols> HoloXNo unity, Koyo and Chloe are no males allowed while Laplus is a mini Towa in the making.>Gen 5Max unity none of them collab with males past one time with Botan. (Mumei effect)>Gen 4Know as the group with absolutely no unity. Has 2 super no male allowed chuubas and Towa.>Gen 3The golden generation, none collab with males>Gen 2Has ayame the whore>Gen 1No unity has Matsuri
>>32228433>>32232267
>>32229760Kek kino
>>32232343gura barely passed 60k with her fucking 3D debut concert. that was months ago and hte branch has reclined massively since then.
>>32232346I get it man, but most of the discussion was about clips that brought people in, since those were the ways how newfags got introduced into the hobby.Peko MGS was more for the existing fans I would say, a 30+ minute clip of her playthrough isn't really going to get casuals hooked after all.
>>32232323https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie_vs_T-SeriesYes?
>>32228433>>32232392
what pekora's bun bun cha smell like? spicy sour? sweety mild?
>>32232370What about sora collabing with males?
>>32232407first 3d debut was in holofes, retardo
>>32232323Anon to put Pewdiepie and XQC on the same level is hilarious. They are not even close to the same level of clout.
>>32232312Holocure is famous not because its a good game but cow it is about Hololive.Even if NijiCure came first and Holocure was a copy of it, HoloCUre would still have been bigger. Hololive name and Holo Talents are the big draw
>>32232341Eh, ask anyone watch Hololive post-EN about ogey rrat, most they will tell you is that it's meme from /here/
>>32232408
>>32232343if the gameshow passes 50k i will drop out of college immediately
AUGUST VIEW/TIME RANKINGS See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks..>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation in the categories this month, but I would say that most categories are experiencing a temporary boost due to big events of summer vacations (despite a small drop from last month because of lack of debuts and grads (the two biggest drops - holoEN and nijiMales, had a boost last month due to sana and mayuzumis graduations)) - you can expect big drops for next month of september. >reminder that there has been some new youtube fuckery with the ccv numbers after this Chritmas (and even after the supposed ”fix” of jan 10th - the problem persists as stated by teamyoutube themselves), however, taking a look at the vod views, the vod views still seem stable and not too messed up.>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 31-07-22 to 31-08-22 (~12am jst).>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets. >I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either. >If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard. >I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic. >i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored. >do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic
>>32228769>>32229568And here is the 1k plus. Here are the 10 usual comments1) 233 tracked streamers made the cut, with 22x of them being Brave Group, 21x Indie, 6x 774 inc, 5x .LIVE and Neo-Porte, and one of each Sleep Monster, NoriPro, Acro, VShojo, Virtual Cinderella Project, WACTOR, Sinsogumi, VOMS, RK Music, GuildCQ, Emoechi Production, KEMOMIMI-REFLE!,2) Every NijiEN and HoloID made the cut3) Every VSPO made the cut5) Every StarsEN made the cut6) Roberu and Astel made the cut7) Mika and Nari Yang made the cut8) Pikamee made the cut (giri giri)9) All of Brave Group's Riot and three of Brave Group's Aogiri High School made the cutand the punchline10) Virtual Obachan not only made the cut but was the four highest ranked indie (trailing only Gatchman, NeruMero and Coromin).She outranked>All of NijiEN but Selen and Luxie,>Roboco and Sora>Hal>Kiaraand also kson, holding almost twice her median.
>fucking bitchWhy is ame like this?https://youtu.be/AzKcddF0to0?t=24188
>>32232480Why do you think she is always lonely anon. She has to beg the other no males allowed girls to threat her just another one of the girls.
>>32232407Knowledge of # is good, but if you don't know the context I cant help you
>>32232482that was just a teaser. her actual debut was that shitty kanauru concert that couldn't even hit 70k.
>>32232504
>>32232541>this means war>not join the war
>>32232346VODs are still there, just privated on her channel https://hololivevideos.download/channel/usadapekora>>32228433>>32232448
>>32232521me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams. next month i will probably be removing a lot of debutting shitters whose numbers turned to shit already. As things of interest:- subaru had her best position ever- kobo had her best position ever- kanata had her best position in a year- maimoto had her best position in a year- helesta had her best position in a year- fuwa had his best position ever not counting their debut month- polka had her best position ever not counting their debut month- shoto had his best position ever- kagami had his best position in years- nerumeru had his best position ever- moona had her best position in a year- shiina had her best position in a year
>>32228433Damn nice numbers from peko
>>32232509she's going to be hardcapped at around 30k unless IDs or JPs show up.
>>32232569
>>32232473Cotton candy>>32228433>>32232599
>>32232601>>32232534>>32232521autists
>>32229568I wondered what this looks like with that Patreo Principle application, so I made it.>>32232534I'm assuming you have the data on your own sheet, right? Would it be too much to ask for you to run one in a graph as well, or would that cause problems. I'm curious to see if the 80/20 rule applies once you give it that high enough of a scale.
>>32232707
>>32232566>teasercope
>>32232521>>32232601>vodcopeuseless metric
Apparently Vox was going menhera about noombers despite the fact that he's still the king of NijiEN. Rrats for why?
>>32232643
>>32228433nice peko
>>32232370It's funny people do usually like to bring up stuff like the homos for Unity purposes but even with EN you can clearly see it's made for huge cracks in the fanbase. Now instead of people being all EN love you've got people who've drawn clear lines where they'll only praise SNO or Ina and they'll shit on the others or vice versa.
>>32232566>Shitty concert> Couldnt hit 70kSo you agreeBy the way she didn't tell anyone about it, people found out during the stream that its 3D
>>32232796cope
>>32232707Welcome to /#/
>>32228433>>32232676
>>32232521>>32232601Anon, this is a retarded as fuck metric>Kuzuha below Gura despite having over 8 million VOD views in his August VODs alone>Gura didn't beat 7.5M in her total VOD growthPlease just stop posting this retarded cope metric
>>32232423Well, the MGS3 series was extreme, agreeBut she also did played MGS4, and one of the most memorial thing about that is how she liked RaidenThe most viewed clip I found was this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dqh9gFG7vQ305,348 views Jul 11, 2020Not really mind-blowing, but not bad either, if I do say so myself
>>32232777proof or timestamp?
>>32232639Collab from EN often has terrible numbers, people listen to their karaoke more than them talking to one another. May be I dont understand the humor but I do get a reason, I feel the banter can be quite boring at time. Gura doesnt seem like a good talker.
Gura WILL slip to Enna.
>>32232534>Virtual ObachanI HECKIN KNEEL
>>32232838It's the Gura metric leave the cumpedo alone.>>32228433>>32232832
>>32232907
>>32232541yeah uh Myth unity doesn't seem very strong right now
>>32232967
>>32228433It's boring when Pekora gets serious...
wait so the >vodcope schizo is the ccv chart anon or is this just a funny coincidence?
>>32232983>myth>unity
>>32231372Nigga holoEN literally kickstarted the vtuber boom in the west. How con nijiCN ever compete? They are litteral who for many
Vspace numbers, no I do NOT know what the title means
>>32232983Myth unity is just a myth
>>32233059vodcope schizo is a different anon
>>32233030
GOLDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0PtBfUXJTQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0PtBfUXJTQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0PtBfUXJTQ
What is even the general consensus about Kronii now? And i just don't mean here, i saw people talking about it but since she has flip flopped and just made an ass of herself it looks like no one is even in agreement of who to shit on and gachikois are not getting any more shit than normal.
>>32232521>>32232601My favorite chart, thanks anon.>>32232838Already people seething about it, always a joy to see.
>>32233102Bedgasm was one of the words they mentioned on her Urban dictonary stream. It's when you lie down on your bed and you want to coom cause your sheets feel nice. Just a silly reference to her content while being a little coombaity
>>32233148sub 10k
>>32232860Was reading up on /NijiEN/ >>32207535>>32207776
>>32233152lazy whore who joined a streaming company without even enjoying streaming and declining heavily because of it
>>32232601not reading any of that but what happened to that vo-ine gook? Just checked tracker and it shows the same drop shit, did she anger some unicorns or something?
>>32233248kys crossposter
>>32233152It was alright, nothing much, same ol kronii
>>32231024the same can be said to so many other members, like Kanata and Subaru doing nothing but buff streamstheir numbers can be real shit too whenever they're back to normal contentsbut Suisei is definitely first army she easily maintain 20k+ during the biggest overlap against both Pekora and Mikoand I don't think anyone else could survive this big overlap hell
>>32233102whore
>>32232601Oh no this will mind break them more... potential catalog spam again
>>32233152Outside of /here/?The only people mad are two camps:>Unicorns: they hate any and all interaction and so hated her since she talked about them>Homobeggars: They now fucking DESPISE her for basically reinforcing the JP status quo in the EN scene loudly and publicly, pretty much killing any chance of "normalizing" relations between branches to a Niji standardOutside of that? Nothing really changed. Some people saying "oh, those incels" despite Kronii telling them not to, some people saying "well, it is an idol company," some people going "wait why is it okay if it's girls but not guys that's bullshit" but being told to shut the fuck up, and that's about the gist of it. Nobody is really up in arms, most fans are totally cool with where things stand, and it's pretty much blown over now.
>>32233152hot take; nobody actually cares outside this board. Reddit seemed to be fine with her latest comment. Afaik she hasn't lost subscribers and her rate of growth has been consistent. if she gets lower CCV for the next few streams (assuming there isn't debuff content) that will be the only real indication that she has been harmed by the drama. Anyone pretending otherwise is just baiting or a moron.
>>32233251isnt she the kronii alter? probably angered her unicorns as well
>>32233152I think People gave up on her when she went into a “le idol culture bad” rant. Time will tell but I think that was the main point to those in limbo who still believed she could change.
>>32233388meds
>>32233291>JRPG>buffAqua probably can get 20k going head on head against Pekora too.
>>32232756It's worse. Its views/time
>>32228433>3D live>losing to rust multiple pov + overlap hell
>>32233152outside of unicorns and beggars nobody seems to care
>>32233388I just think she was silly and that the latest comments were completely unneeded after her last unarchived members chat. I mean, idol culture comment was silly and just feeds dramaniggers for no reason other than her being unable to take a step away from twitter/reddit and her keyboard.
>>32233450
>>32228433>>32232947
>>32233466>The former 1st ArmyYeah, nah.At most she could get 15k, onyan fell hard
I actually missed this kino... on miko's stream.https://youtu.be/liMu9UJ5cOA?t=2
>>32233473So not even the fucking ACTUAL number that can be measured, aka, how many times someone clicked on the fucking VOD, but the fucking EXPLICITLY NOT MEASURABLE ONE at that?For fuck's sake.
>>32228769>>32229568>>32232534And here is the whole shebang. Five comments from the bottom1) Sony absolutely dominates the bottom of the table, holding six (6) out of the bottom twenty (20), four Vee, two VERSEn2) Speaking of VERSEn, Kashi Otoha escaped 2 views hell with a 122 median this month3) Two (former) NijiID are stuck in 2 views hell tho: Nagisa Arcinia and Riksa Dhirendra4) Re:AcT, Propro Production and WACTOR have their fair share at the bottom too.5) Lots of small ASMR companies rising in the ranks
>>32233152>but since she has flip flopped and just made an ass of herself it looks like no one is even in agreement of who to shit onThis is pretty much the consensus. That she made an ass of herself. The only consistent thing she's done is defended her gachis and long time members. Most people have come to their conclusions after that and the rest of the shit she's done is just giving more fuel to why the other girls should avoid male collabs or why HoloEN sucks aside from Gura/InaWhile hardcore unicorns probably are still upset, her stance was very pro gachi so it's really only the most extreme that are upset. Kind of like a muumei situation where everyone gives her a pass for her stars collab since she clearly hated her time.
>>32233522
>>32233152in the end the twittertrannies seem to be the ones who got the most mad because she called out retards who keep making hetero shipping but still said yuri is ok beacuse shes a huge dyke; or the fact that she will never stream her pov for those rare collabs; or the fact that she will never initiate them and only join if invited.
>>32232601>Salome keeps falling and fallingI hate nijimangement so fucking much
>>32233519Eh, if she hadn't said anything, it would've stayed in members, and people outside of the members group would've been running around screaming about shit for way longer. At least now it's openly defined, and the whole "girl/girl is rad, girl/guy fucking sucks" standard became a hard-set talent standard instead of a vague implication.
>>32233248He's probably realizing how hard he got fleeced by Shoto.
>>32233626
>>32228433>>32233525
>>32228433No competition at ALLOnly the biggest of big Niji events can stand a chance against her
>>32233649Fair, the 'unneeded' bit was aimed more at the dumb idol culture nonsense, which is definitely her spending too much time on reddit/twitter/here and just spewing out terms.
>>32233533On my dick
Prediction on Ayame's "return" stream?
>>32233697
>>32233601>Sony absolutely dominates the bottom of the tablewas gonna call you a retard but then i reread that
>>32233152Redditors are mad because they said this is just dismissing lesbian relationships as not real or serious since girl ships are allowed and encouraged while het ships aren't.
>>3223375015-20k
>>32233491Obviously niji doesn't have the 3D live buff like holo since they're not idols. And Rion gets around 2k viewers on avg. It's good for her standards.
>>32233152Well, if you have bothered to read all the replies to this postTl;dr - There's no consensus, which is a feat in and of itself
>>32233651I can't help but be impressed by Shoto and how much of a shameless leech he is, putting every "leech" mentioned in this thread to shame in comparison.
>>32233601>Audrey Mina>52 streams in August>Median peak of 56 viewersSONY is fucking obliterating their chances in this industry by allowing this kind of thing to exist under their watch, that shit is downright tragic for a chuuba backed by one of the fucking largest companies in Japan
>>32233739Hey, 1st Army or not, onyan is still sex.Thanks Gaou-papa
>>32233566Not the view/time anon but, I find it kinda weird that any stat (not that view/time of course, that one is indeed stupid) other than the CCV will gather those that try to downplay them. Just for one piece of information if you or anyone have them, where can I read which stat or metric is more/less important? If there is a source on that I can understand, but if there is none then, uh.
>>32233619Thing is the homobeggars wanted Kronii to tell every gachi and unicorn to fuck off and to go all in with male collabs similar to Mori.Also the "double standard" about what type of ships she's fine with completely pissed them off for some reason.
>>32233059>or is this just a funny coincidence?I can say with first person knowledge that it is a coincidence and that this post >>32232838 comes from the same person making this post >>32232534>first person knowledge as in, I touched his penis looking at Haachama's lewds (no homo)(because it is my own penis, hence it's not gay)
>>32233248I mean according to True Average poster he unironically has reclined but not that badly. Maybe it's worse on b2
Can we talk about Kiara and her trying her best and yet going lower and lower. She is clinging on to her Korean popularity to save her from losing all relevance.I don't see Kiara hate but it just looks like ppl have just accepted she is unsalvagable
>>32233790>hetkys
>>32228433>>32233721
>>32233811I did, and i guess i got my answer
Anything big in September? Besides holocure and rust season 3
>>32233566Puting ratio on views is stupid. The moment this list didn't put fubuki as number 1 during shiny autism makes this list invalid.
>>3223375070k floor. Nakirigumi thirst is unsatiable
>>32233750basically just collecting paypigs money, so about 20-22k
>>32232777Shoto has now surpassed Vox as the biggest EN male vtuber that's why the latter was seething >>32232601
>>32233388>it's pretty much blown over now.This is cope until she can go an entire day without making a statement. She already handled things with the member stream but made things worse with her idol culture comment
>>32231024Yeah but her powerlevel got balanced out by her huge music number. Just like see Pekora getting gold again, Suisei Phony also keep getting gold on that music ranking streamOr how Gura pump out those VOD view
>>32233030Imagine having such low testosterone you find Pekora unattractive or not sexy.
>>3223375025k at best, ATMcucks are starting to notice the pattern.>>32228433>>32233877
>>32233892rust season 3 might not be as big as the other 2 seasons since the main players are stepping back
>>3223375040-60k, depends on what she does and how much overlap she has
>>32233984then it should be easy for you to prove it with number right?
>>32233892niji splatoon tournament, niji horror drama and a number of outfit reveals/3D debuts. VERY stacked month.
>watching not rushia play apex out of boredom>stable 3kwhat number usually rushia get? sorry never watch her way before the incident
>>32233855ah maybe he got accesss to the actual b2 numbers and the mom incident hit bigger than what was actually shown
>>32233841Homobeggars lean heavily female, and the kinds that HATE yuri to boot, or at least from what little evidence I've seen. Saying F/F fanart and shipping is a-okay just sticks a fucking boot right up their craw as a result.
>>32233566>but the fucking EXPLICITLY NOT MEASURABLE ONE at that>>32233901>>32233833>Puting ratio on views is stupid.It is even worse than simply dividing the number of VOD views by the length of the stream.It applies FUCKING RATIOS to each subsequent hour with the first few hours weighting more, to ensure too long streams get debuffed.It is a metric hand tailored for streamers that short infrequent streams with high VOD views per stream ajnd that's why Aqua is #3
>>32230650The main discussion topic of her stream still hasn't leaked.
>>32233892niji splatoon tournament
>>32233989She is neither tho
>>32228433>>32233992
>>32233833I will never acknowledge views/time simply because of its a cope metric for vtuber that doesn't stream a lot that gets good vod views. I remember this list not putting fubuki as number 1 during the shny autism
>>32233989>Pekora>SexyNousakids don't know the meaning of SEX.Even clussy is at least 50x more sexy than Pekora
serious question,do pekora sex like a rabbit?
I no longer see sex in PekoraI see wife materialHer 3D make her look small and frail, literally asking me to princess carry herHer smile have the warmth and genuineness of a childhood friend you grew up withShe read shonen, play RPG and want to be a hero, her spirit is young and full of passion
>>32228427JP7 is next year, most likely they will tease it at holofes.
>>32233858So long as she desires to maintain the chicken voice, I will continue to not watch her.
>>32234122Eat more proteins and exercise more, sister.
>>32234060>what number usually rushia get?For APEX (and most of her choices of entertainment) anything under 15k would be an underperformance
>>32233818Managed to leech his way to top indie on twitch/one of the top vtubers on twitch, impressive really.
>>32233858she should lower the pitch of her voice like suisei
>>32234060What, in the old days? Rushia got great numbers. The lowest you'd ever seen was 5k but that was very rare, usually she'd be in five figures. Her channel could pull like 20k for buff solo content, and 40k for buff collabs.
why do you anons think that koyori reading pekos note would massively incline her? If she had knew about the betrayal plot and busted pekora, it would just cut all that battle storyline short, no?or do you mean temporarily incline koyo's ccv alone today?
>>32234098I fucking hate this list since dec 2021 imagine not putting Fubuki at number 1 because of ratio.
>>32234060At this time of day? Like, double to up to triple of 3k. At her usual time slot? 10-15k for whenever she randomly decided to play apex? It's hard to say, she had a very stable floor of 10k in her 6pm JST timeslot for her non-SC reading portion of the streams.
>>32234177And then you would have hot, steamy sex with her on the wedding night. THE END.
>>32233892Subaru Pekora and Haachama trial might happen this month
If EN3 would be a "unity" gen with them promoting male collabs and even worst, the talents hired are the "Whateva i do what i want cartman type" like their predecessor, then it'll be unironically over for holoEN. Cover really should fired omega and his co-op agenda before it's too late for them to realize that even in the west/global, Hololive's main strenght is that it's a cute girl exclusive club. People dont want non of them male shit on their online anime hostess bar
>>32234201>16k13k are hololive brand
>>32233989>Pekora>SexyAnon...
What happened to millie this time?
>>32234244If she is smart enough to read the note she would be smart enough to join Pekora to defend her fortress.
>>32234177>wife materialGood luck doing the chore by yourself anon.She would be in front of the computer, playing games all day while you clean the house, cook, and play with your kids if pekora ever agreed to penetrative sex in the first place, at best she would jerk you off by hand while still playing games
>>32234235Yeah, while she was known for SC, her ccv is also nothing to sneeze at. She can hit 20k reliably depending on content and have good 3D live number too (Only behind Marine and Pekora) in Sankisei
>>32234148Im not disagreeing that view/time is stupid, Im just wondering why (outside of dumb metrics like that) some stats other than CCV are often downplayed by people. Im wondering if I seriously miss a certain documents or Google help page that details which stats are more/less important, so I can read and educate myself before spewing bullshit. Dont wanna be disappointed when reality doesnt cater to my preferred metric.
>>32234244She will be with pekora defending the base no? And that would boost her ccv just like when pekora attack her base earlier. Anon are talking about incline of ccv today.
>>32234291After Gura finishes Atlantis
>>32234244Because she wanted to stay with pekora
>>32233858Kiara's problems are entirely>Voice>Time slot>Debuff content>Aggressively FeminineNone of these are things that reasonably can be fixed without a real concerted effort on her end so there's not much to say for her numbers. She's still one of the top SC earners so it's not all bad
>>32233818Shoto is actually entertaining so it's all good. Luxiem did leech off of Hololive brand painting themselves as anti idols so it's all fair.
>>32234235Must really fuck with someone to see how much their viewership drops when they leave Holo.Didn't Lulu basically retain most of her viewership after she quit Niji?
>>32234148>metric for vtuber that doesn't stream a lot that gets good vod viewsSounds like the perfect metric for YouTube.
>>32234296I think Cover should fire everyone in holoEN except for Gura, then hire all the Production Kawaii girls.
>>32234291What the fuck isn’t it already too late for that? Who the fuck would watch?Also who mentioned this? Haachama?
>>32232521>>32232601as always fucking kill yourself
>>32234296Nigger this was always going to happen dated way back since fucking Mori collabed with the Holostars. Fun fact, it's STILL ONLY MORI IN MYTH THAT HAS COLLABED WITH THE HOLOSTARS. Just like it'll really only be Bae, and now Kronii, in Council. Why the fuck didn't you guys bitch harder at ID interacting with men, men outside of fucking Holo, even? Why is it suddenly a "OVER FOR HOLOEN" problem when EN does it too?
>>32234381>>32234098
>>32234358Bro I am literally that kind of husband
>>32233833>where can I read which stat or metric is more/less important? If there is a source on that I can understand, but if there is none then, uh.There's no "handbook" or anything like that, but the best that I can tell you is this:It's unironically statistics classes where you can learn shit about this.Now, I know for a FACT that most people here haven't taken college-level Stats classes, but I have, and so I can understand why people would be willing to downplay this and that metric over this and that one. Metrics are notoriously malleable. STATISTICS AS A WHOLE is a notoriously malleable field. You can shape statistics to say whatever you want to say, really, as long as you pair the right stat with the right claim.For the "Average vs Median," you get fights about how it's measured. Do you measure someone by their peaks, or do you sum their averages up across all streams, or do you average out each of the streams and find a median from that, etc, etc. Any way you slice it, you'll get different data, and rankings will change.This is why you measure out a fuckton of different stats to try and get a close understanding by comparing and contrasting what the data tells you for each stat. This is why for even basic statistics at a higher level than children's math, you're supposed to measure:>Count>Sum>Min. Number>Max. Number>Range>Median>Mode>Mean>Variance>Standard Deviationand all of that is just to get CLOSE to a decent understanding of a statistic.Statistics is an absolute, utter hellscape. There's more than enough reason to dismiss nearly any individual statistic if it isn't being run through a high level analysis, and even then, the whole thing can be a crapshoot depending on your dataset.And even if you get a good dataset, a good analysis, and a strong outcome from that analysis, you could be fucked into the ground on just one question: "Have you taken the right externalities into account?" If you miss even one externality that's important, your entire fucking dataset is a fucking joke.It's hell, absolute hell, utter hell, and I blame no one for wanting to just use their gut half the time.
>>32234405>Aggressively FeminineHow is that even a debuff?
>>32234122>>32234158>>32234308Woah, so much gayness in these posts makes me uncomfortable. I'm outta here.
>>32233989https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsMCs4jaoaY
>>32234432Subaru said she's collecting evidences for future Subaru keisatsu stream
>>32234384A meat shield then, no more no less. She just got a lucky bullet on Pekora's head at the beginning of the raid but that's it.>>32228433>>32234130
>>32234466
>>32234519>believing what Subaru saidimagine
>>32233858>trying her bestno, she's "womaning" her best. she won't:-chase buff content-move her dogshit timeslot-drop the chicken voice-go to NA for collabsHow the fuck is she trying her best? She even started coping that there was no way for EN to grow a while back. No Kiara, don't drag everyone with you.
>>32234358where do i sign
>>32234498sucks to be you I guess
>>32234525I think it’s funnier that way, Koyori was legit begging to be on Pekora side but Pekora end her life in cold blood so she don’t have to be “evil” like her
>>32234479Why should I care if whores from Indonesia collab with men?
>>32234162With her fingers yes( I recorded everything), she fingerbangs herself 16 times a week on a weak day.>>32228433>>32234525
>>32234504You're talking to a KFP. She's aggressively feminine the same way Laqueesha going OH GIRL YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT SHEEET is also, from a certain point of view, being femininie.
>>32234519Nobody cares about Subaru
>>32234575
>>32234622Because it should "AFFECT HOLOLIVE AS A WHOLE" shouldn't it? If you use the same fucking retard logic you use for the ENs?
>>32233858I can't hate someone who actively proves the "hard work always pays off" meme wrong.
>>32234504He doesn't mean she's like some kind of uwu tradwife, he means she has a really bitchy and whiny personality.
>>32234582The only thing better for me is becoming a nousagi, like an actual nousagi and Pekora will let me sit on her lap and cuddling me while she stream
>>32234670
>>32234033She has literally streamed only one time since and her views were lower than her previous SC streams but she had a worse overlapSo no it's impossible to say right now. The last update to the drama was her making an ass out of her self on a clip channel and the reddit thread getting taken down.
>>32234683It's really hard work to try to empty a pool with a sieve, that doesn't mean the concept of hard work is universally useless
>>32234504>Whiny/Bitchy>Can't keep quiet on topics that she should know better, but hasn't been EXPLICITLY FORBIDDEN to by management, like when she talked about how someone from council confided in her sometime after debut, like bitch, that sort of stuff isn't the kind of thing you tell your viewers!
>>32234504bitchy and whiny personality (80% sure its just the voice)
>>32228433>>32234646
>>32234701
>>32234291Leeching whore isn't in the trial anymore, neat.>>32228433>>32234816
>>32234503this is pretty much it. It's also worth noting that we have no ready access to the information that would really help determine what factors are most important (e.g. Sponsorship deals, how much merch makes, whether low CCV is counteracted by high sponsor/Concert value and so on). A good example of this is the SC argument. People were gloating about Luxiem's SC totals but if that Omocat merch estimate was even close to the actual amount, then that SC figure becomes laughably small.
>>32234683Hard work does pay off when you actually know what you are doing, that is literally how early PekoMari climbKiara version of hard work is doing whatever she want but at high frequency and most of the time what she want to do suck dick
>>32234479it's all about parasocial relationship, they want to see them as a pure woman and keep it that waythey don't want to know the fact that all of holoEN is actually a whore
>>32234853
>>32234479Beccause non of those were seems "official", get it? Those were up to the girls but, now just look at how the direction EN turned into. >They changed Tempus from holostar to holoproEN>They (mane) shilled the fuck outta them,Mind you, this is different than starsJP case since they are a whole different branch. StarsEN is under holoEN thus, knowing omega he'll definetly push the "unity" agenda to incline the starsEN since it's under his responsibility. >medsNo. We talking about a dude who went missing and barely gave a fuck to the girls and went hard on shilling the fags.It's obvious what EN3 would be. They'll definetly hire "le idol culture bad" kinda people
>>32234922*all of hololive is actually a whoreftfy
>>32234766>that doesn't mean the concept of hard work is universally uselessI never claimed that, hard work can definitely work, but working smart works best.
>>32228433>>32234897
>>32234751>So no it's impossible to say right now.Sure, I could grant that. But I think this is too conservative. We know that it hasn't gone over too badly because her rate of sub growth has been steady and she hasn't reclined at all.
>>32233152She's just a coward, she doesn't want to make choices and disappoint a section of the audience. She wants to use "dont ship me with homo" (same as Mori) so that she can continue to collab with homo if invited (according to her) but her expression is stupid.
>>32234296silence with your doomsaying, hagwitch! Your foul spells cannot reach them for they are under my protection.
>15k viewers>500k views vodwtf is going on with gura
>>32234977>this is different than starsJP case since they are a whole different branch, starsEN is under holoEN>They changed Tempus from holostar to holoproENHow is your entire argument based on something that is literally incorrect, anon
>>32234977meds
>>32234942
>>32228433>>32235010
>>32234977No but actually you really need meds.Had they not shilled Holostars EN properly you niggers would've been bitching that management is shit. Now you're bitching that it's doing too much to try and prop up a side branch where the JP members can barely break 4views. What's wrong with you.
>>32234977>They changed Tempus from holostar to holoproENhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJxZpzx4wHzEYD-eCiZPikg?
Pekora is not sexy!
>>32234898>if that Omocat merch estimate was even close to the actual amountEven HALF of that is still bigger than Vox SC total
>>32235111Trips of true
>>32234977anon....holostars have been under holopro since 1-2 years ago, before tempus fucking released.do your fucking rep.
>>32234985*all of women are actually whoresftfy
>>32235046We might theorize it's her fanbase that was sleeping catching up with the VOD. But most of them are at work, EST gets off work in a few hours and PST still has 5 hours to go. Only stinky neets and stinky WFH developers could have done vod reps so far, right?
>>32228433>>32235092
>>32234296>>32235042
>>32234977Bro, stop thread reading and go watch streams.
>>32233566it's the chumbud cope chart and always has been, he takes the most absurd metric which is designed around buffing gura over everyone else and adds an overly long and complicated explanation and chart going back to 2018 with bullshit numbers so newfags think he's smart
>>32235122Anon half of that - which still had a lot of stock left for sale - would put it ahead of all Luxiem combined, let alone Vox. This is also without considering the cuts to talent/Cover. I imagine the merch probably nets Cover/the talent a better rate than SC.
>>32235193euneet here, just woke up and watching her vod
>>32235193Depends on the job, there are quite a few that would be fine with an earbud in.
>>32234576Trying her best in the sense that she is the only consistent streamer from Myth and doing her best to find her niche, but unfortunately if I ask anyone what is Kiara known for, streaming qualities will probably the last
>>32234977Hey retard, Hololive and Holostars is already under the HoloPro banner since 20-fucking-20
uncle Nowa 4k
>>32235122About Vox, why is the guy having a shit fit about his number anyway. God damn, some of the holoEN girls have it worse than 2 years ago and they dont even throw a fit (outside of Mori and Kiara, those 2 are damn numberfags).
>>32235111GAAAAY
>>32234504Hololive as a group built it's brand off the fact it appealed to otaku menOtaku men aren't interested in Kiara's brand of personality. They want "uwu I'm such a gremlin and I'm so shy now let me tell you about [insert incredibly nerdy interested like B movies or a terrarium]"Otaku men are not interest in "let me tell you about my vacation!!!"I feel like this should be obvious.
Wonder how this will gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxkdFMre7AE
>>32235037I lost respect of her after that politician-like speech. Before this I actually pity her due to her depression and watch her god-awful karaoke from time to time.
>>32234977>On December 2, 2019, Holostars merged with the main Hololive branch and INoNaKa Music, their music label, to form Hololive ProductionAt least stop being retard, kys faggot.
>>32235046PICK YOUR POISON!>HER VIEWERBASE IS CULLED!>STINKY NEET/WFH/EUROS ARE WATCHING!>YOUTUBE JUST HATES GURA SPECIFICALLY!Get a bonus of one free timeloop with your choice of cope!
>>32235282>>32234073
>>32235071>>32235104Nigga you know what i mean. At first they used holostars holo then corrected and even go as far as rename holoEN into holoproEN. So, tempus is not under holostars' management or it's own branch but, still under the same branch and management as myth and council.
>>3223530910k floor, 15k+ is possible
>>32234977The levels of wrong on this post.
>>32235037I find it fuking strange they dont try to learn from either Gura or Mori. Gura ignores everything and they go away, Mori keep clinging to stupid shit and kill her viewership.
>>32235046it's pretty weird because her last vods got culled too
>>32235309>Fauna>Minecraft>Her timeslot11k floor like always with upside to around 13-14
>>32235282We are talking about NijiEN here anon, they are a bunch of salty fucks that unironically make a fucking vent channel with their professional name
>>32235289I mean, they would be if Kiara wasn't both stubborn enough to hold on to the debuff-as-shit voice and was more entertaining as she tells her stories.
Why the fuck are the people outraged about the fucking Homos always the dumbest motherfuckers in the thread, man.This shit's true on the "God why won't they just COLLAB MORE ALREADY, FUCKING INCELS" side of the argument, and on the "They fucking TALKED to that man and DIDN'T KILL HIM ON THE SPOT, that means they are ABSOLUTELY FUCKING, this is a BETRAYAL OF MY TRUST, I HATE YOU" side of the argument as well.Good fucking lord, it's literally only retards on both ends of the horseshoe here with that debate, even in here, let ALONE in splits or global or mans. At least here you can just fucking numberfag and not get into the retard debate, SOMETIMES.
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>>32235104>>32235071Hololive en main channel did an stars debut watchalong. They merge twitter accounts for hololive english to include both stars and holo en. The mangers want them to collab with males their trying to get stars en off the ground so they don't end up like stars jp. En mangment knows the western market is different from the jp one when it comes to male collabs it just that most members are leaving the boy out to dry. Yet once an holo star suppress an holo female I bet things will start changing they always do. The ID branch was looked down upon on untill they proved themself at holofes. Stars just need one member to destroy hololive members recorded and they will be good.+
EN is culled and JP is botted, simple as, otherwise Gura would wipe out everyome else with her 4m subs.
>>32235321Kronii actually gained my respect for bravely confronting her detractors despite suffering from autism and other disabilities.
>>32235376>>32235330
>>32234358and why is this a bad thing?
>>322353098k, crawling up to 12-14k as she approaches Gura's timeslot.
>>32235283>settling on unsexy wabbit when the textbook definition of SEX is right there on her sideNousakid-tachi...
>nowa oji spill only astel don't mind with eop raid from tempus
>>32235376>even go as far as rename holoEN into holoproENNigger are you basing your entire schizo rant on the fact that they created a (new) twitter called HoloProEN?
>>32228433>>32235209
>>32235457I am pretty sure someone pointed out that it is her setting. I myself find notKiara's handcam/outdoor voice bearable compare to her usual voice.
>>32235481And it's ALWAYS THE MOST FUCKING ESL BASTARDS YOU'VE EVER MET THAT COME INTO THIS THREAD WITH THIS KIND OF BULLSHIT, EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>32235554this guy always casually drops crucial information that is not so important
>>32235376You are literally just wrong and need to watch streams. The Tempus dudes correct anyone who mistakenly calls them Hololive, they are Stars. You think Yagoo would want the first actual Stars success stories moved out from underneath his pet brand? He has been personally obsessed with getting this outcome for years.
>>32235441They are so strange, the StarEN are grateful for the opportunity even when growing bigger than their JP counterpart. These Niji guys are "supposedly" happy because they beat Council (at the time) but continue the part of insecurity about their own numbers while the Council just does their own thing. What a strange juxtapose of personalities.
>>32235289This is not exclusive to Kiara anon, Coco regularly did a vacation report stream too you know.
>>32235481>Yet once an holo star suppress an holo femalelollmao even
>>32235481>Yet once an holo star suppress an holo femaleWell they're headed in the wrong direction at the moment. EN3 will have to have a real dead on arrival shitter for a homo to consistently beat a real holo.
>>32228433>>32235569
>32235483
>>32235478This art was super cute, in retrospect wish I had ordered the tapestry.
>>32235481>They merge twitter accounts for hololive english to include both stars and holo enYou mean...like the normal hololive twitter?
>>32235376>He says this when the stars themeselves told everyone that they are under holostars and not hololive
>>32235289Subaru, Suisei, Nene all exists.Its not the content what she is speaking but the personality and how she speaks. Everything seems to have a big condescending tone even in collabs it seems there is an ulterior motives
>32234977Lol, fucking moron
>>32235487>>32235564What i meant is that unlike starsJP that is a whole different management under shinove, Tempus IS within HoloEN management under omega. They are not part of stars management nor have their own. They ARE holoEN.
>>32235589Setting, yea yea, but it's a shit setting and sometimes you just need to fucking change shit that's a debuff.
>>32235554So the rest of StarsJP doesn't want the EOP raid?That tracks, but man, they are just outright never gonna grow
>>32235690I thought he's Ange for a moment.
>>32228433>>32235683
>>32235481kys pagpag eaterYou know nothing about Hololive
>>32235726Proof next thread?
>>32235726We have no visibility into the HololiveEN/StarsEN management structure, unless you know something we don't in which case post timestamps or proof.The most we've gotten (that I've personally seen) is that Omega most likely runs Stars and that Jenma was promoted (probably to director of Hololive English, but that's just a guess)
>>32235554Holy shit shut the fuck up Vesper.
>>32235706>>32235617It's only in the name you idiots. Management wise they ARE under the same management as myth and council.
>>32235535Yes im a kid noel also molest me everyday
>>32235769(me)Just saw the file name.
>>32235478>A woman wanting to be fantasy JRPG protagonist This is so cute
>>32235726Anon you actual fucking retard, multiple girls have said at this point that fucking JENMA is the head HoloEN management now.She got promoted UP TO THE HEAD.To TAKE OVER THE POSITION.Because, you can probably guess, IT WAS VACATED.Can you guess why? Because the fag went to Stars instead.
>>32228788>>32228932>>32228949and the clip where the phrase originated, arguably.
>>32235821Post proof, a timestamp, a clip, even a hint of that being the case.
>>32235821>Management wise they ARE under the same management as myth and council.Post proof.
>>32235726>Tempus IS within HoloEN management under omegaNigga omega is the producer who is in charge of lore shit while the managers to the females are different
>>32235795>>32235796They literally stated it back when they make the holoproEN pro tweet!
>>32235751Most of them feels that their content doesn't appeal to kaigai-niki
>>32235718Hey, this anon finds the word I was looking for all this time: Condescending. I was trying to describe that sort of behavior where she can not take a joke and has to diss out to other girls directly. One particular example that makes me no longer watching her is when she has to point out Ame "toxic behavior" of blaming the ping. Instead of playing along, she has to word it that Ame is just blaming the ping for her lose. Bitch, everyone knows that, Ame is just making a joke.
>>32235886Well it sure as fuck ain't gonna appeal to the kaigai if they don't want the exposure, self-fulfilling prophecy right there.
>>32235884Proof next thread?
>>32235726anon multiple girls have already said that jenma is the top dog at en right now and the only thing omega is in charge of for en overall is the lore. Other than that omega is the starsen manager
>>32235881Bitch PRODUCER means they are in charge or everything! It's the leader or chief of the entire production teams including talents
>>32235481>They merge twitter accounts for hololive english to include both stars and holo enI want you to know that they did the exact same with the JP twitter. @hololivetv used to be ONLY for the Hologirls. They're literally just doing the same shit with EN now.Yeah, it is annoying because I don't want to see Cover shilling the literally who UPROAR members every time I open twitter but it's not going to force the girls to merge with the males. If any girl collabs with them it was clearly their choice.
>>32235554As a numberfag and someone interested in the industry, I like that Uncle Nowa leaks shit all the time but jeez, he's gonna eventually get talents clamming up around him if he does it too much
>>32235943Nigger how would a JP only zatsu stream appeal to a foreigner who doesn't know Japanese
sisters be malding
>>32235718Just from from reading /hlgg/ I feel like Kiara complain about something every stream and go on a long rant about anything that cause her slight discomfort
>>32228433>>32235770
>>32235943You severely underestimated most Stars low self-esteem anon, especially gen 1.
>>32235978Go ask the fucking hundreds, thousands of people who do that over for the girls, man
>>32235862>>32235869Omega runs both en and stars omega is the boss of jenma he the producer of hololive en as an whole. En magment goes omega > Jenma> talent mangers> talents> staff.Proof h
>>32236025Anon?! ANON?! THE SNIPERS GOT HIM BEFORE HE COULD POST THE PROOF
>>32228433>>32236009
>>32236059Good riddance to shitty ESL trash.
>>32235966>producerYou are thinking of the executive producer which is on top of the food chain.Producers are only in charge of certain aspects
I don't think this is about male collabs moreso it is about respecting your viewers. >Pekora asked her viewers regarding collabs with males>general consensus from nousagi is that they prefer her not toso Pekora never collab with males since then>Moona collabed with males>Moonafiq getting uppity in her chat and superchatsMoona said she won't collab with males and from my knowledge she hasn't since then.>Kronii collabed with Vesper since she said she would>Kronies getting uppity in chat and superchats"Oh wow you guys are either newfags who never watched me or are incels"That is the fucking problem. People saying she don't need to address the audience because she has done that 2 weeks ago doesn't get the point. The viewers WANT HER TO CHANGE HER POSITION like Moona did but she basically just said "fuck you I do what I want" to her viewers without spelling it out.
>>32235821Hey retard, stars JP and holo JP is also under the same management, so are holo EN and holo ID.You know why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF HOLOPRO UPPER MANAGEMENT
>>32235046dont worry about it
>>32233152As of her last member stream, things were fine, other than tourists shitting on "incels" etc.After the "idol culture" thing, most of her fans are in "shut the fuck up for once PLEASE" mode (they know she's retarded) while tourists are confused as to where they should shit on.
>>32236025You're probably confusing Hololive Production with Nijisanji Project.Nijisanji is a mixed gender agency. Hololive is not.
>>32235966>confusing producer and executive producerlollmao even
So today we've once again learned:The biggest retards in regards to Hololive are ESLs.One day, maybe, we'll have a world where the term "ESL" isn't 3/4ths of the way to being a slur in the Vtuber community. But that's not today.
>>32236001hlgg is Kiara and KFP-anti.
>>32228433>>32236067
HERE SOME NUMBERS>Pekora is the only holo member that reached 5 and 6 billion minutes watched on holoprohttps://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/x39xn9/minutes_watched_milestones_august_2131_2022/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
>>32235823You drive a hard bargain nousakid-kun
>>32235967But it was already known that starsJP is basically a whole different branch under a whole different management which is of no concern for the girls. Tempus is different. Them and the girls direction could be dictate by whatever direction omega wants to pursue as the branch chief.
>>32233858Voice.Literally the only thing stopping her incline.People have shouted this across the rooftops and keep getting called eggs or whatever.Let KFP enjoy their numberless chicken.
>>32228433>>32236166
>>32236155That post was so stupid I'm almost tempted to say it's Omega falseflagging. And I usually hate the /vt/ Omega schizo fantasies.
>>32236207Provide one SCRAP of proof I am BEGGING YOU
>>32235626Because they're insecure and have huge inferior complex, anon. They want to become ''not like hololive because muh idol culture".the ''Council didn't do as well as they expected" is funny because I'm 100% sure Council still has higher income than Luxiem's thanks to merch & sponsorship, the girls no need to rely on SC.and Tempus fucking mog Noctyx in term of CCV, decent SC & the boys will get more income from merch, we know most stars' huge profit & revenue were coming from merchandise (and concert ticket too).it's always funny how niji talent really let holo live rent free in their head while most holo talent simply do their own thing.
>>32236155Only /mans/ use ESL as a blanket insult nowadays, way to out yourself sister.
>>32235330It makes me wonder how many of these issues could have been avoided if it was>Cover productions>Hololive>Holostarsso you don't have people trying to pile them all under one big happy hololive family
>>32236207but omega is just a producer though?
>>32236025Rip in peace you schizo
>>32235967You'll never be able to convince this guy that we can't derive the entire company's internal structure from fucking twitter account names, it's hopeless
>>32236244>Only /mans/And Global.And here.And most split threads I've been in.Frankly, it's always an insult here.