/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>she's a retard that doesn't know shit about hololive and try to fix thing she shouldn't have to address

>>32215691
She literally refers to the whole thing that happened. The triggering of schizo incels

>>32215691
Translation: I want the money from you losers, but I, in typical western woman fashion, don't wanna have rules about it.

>>32215691
Mask-off moment revealing what she actually thinks about "muh toxic hololive idol culture" and how she hates her "entitled incel chud" fans

>joins idol company
>Unfortunately, because idol culture is a thing

kroniikucks will defend this

>>32215983
>entitled incel chud
I mean who wouldn't. These people get triggered at the very thought at a man existing, and contemplate what the fuck a business relationship is.

>>32215956
>>32215983
>>32215990
Touch a female with consent

>>32216105
You first.

>>32215691
once a whore, always a whore

>>32216105
Okay. Heading down to the brothel as we speak.

>>32215990
> idol company
> hires 3 tone deaf talents (picrel)
> hires mori
> half of hires are menhera

uh huh

>>32215691
>Wants idol money
>Doesn't want idol standards

>>32215691
She will join vshojo soon, to get talent freedom.

Hololive is not an idol company.

>>32216256
Is talent freedom an innuendo?

>commenting in reply chains on clip channels
That's sad.

>>32216105
Why you insist on making everything about sex?

>>32216105
twitter user

>>32215691
It means that she's irrationally insecure and self-conscious, resulting in her digging herself deeper by addressing shit that doesn't need to be addressed using terminology she doesn't understand

>>32215691
she's having a woman moment

>>32216372
Source?

>>32215983
We always knew she was like this, and loved that bitch because of it. Clock thinks she's been filtering unicorns, but she's the clumsy type who's been accidentally collecting them this whole time.
>>32216105
>Touch a female
Bend ov-
>with consent
Nevermind, I'll pass. Way to suck all the passion out of this relationship, even harder than your mom did last night.

>>32216427
>Why you insist on making everything about sex?
>Kronii talks to male
>WHORE SLUT I BET SHE FUCKS HIM ALREADY SLUT WHORE
Nice bait

>>32216128
I already did. She told me not to tell the Kronies

>>32216776
I couldn't care less about her sex life, not wanting male collabs isn't about sex

>>32215691
>irl idols interact with men just fine irl
why is she using this flimsy ass excuse
only a love live tier corpo shill idol who isn’t a true idol would use this excuse

source?

>>32216711
bruh

>>32217002
Sure it isn't. Repeat it enough times and maybe you'll start believing it some day

>>32217002
Then what is it about?

>>32215691
>le idol culture
>idols interact with men fine
literal peanut brain tier get out of jail free excuse

>>32217002
>not wanting male collabs isn't about sex
The 99% of your bunch will disagree

>>32217196
>>32217249
vtubers are an extension of CGDCT, no one wants males in CGDCT anime

>>32215691
She wishes Reggie would dick her down but he's a seiso idol so he told her to take a hike, just like he did with Ame

I think she meant the double standard is unfortunate but it is because of idol culture. Just clumsy wording

>>32216445
Is called having a woman moment anon they always want the last word lol

>>32217372
Then just don't watch the stream when content you don't like is on?
Truly baffling, the mind of an incel is.

>>32217547
Don't expect them to be rational when they don't even know what relationship are and spend time on 4chan trying to dissect the term

>>32215691
She means she hates japan.
Either way, shes retarded for feeding the trolls and her fans are retarded for having a cuck mentality.

blaming idol culture was a terrible move. i thought she knew better than that.

>>32217547
why didn't normalfags just stop watching GoT when the final season was shit? People get angry when the thing they love turns into something they don't like.

>>32215691
>join idol company
>complain about idol culture
rumao
bitch should've joined vshojo

I'm just going to give Kronii benefit of doubt that she's completely retarded.

>>32217547
>Then just don't watch the stream when content you don't like is on?
Why is this always an argument?
>don't watch that specific episode where in the cgdct show where one of the characters dates a man
This doesn't fucking ever happen in the first place because cgdtg is cgdtg, creators know their audience

>>32215983
Based.

>all sides of idol culture are good
schizos

>>32217915
How does it turn?
Literally how does some collab once in a while change the rest of the content?
This is false equivalency.

>>32215691
Anyone that still gives her money after this is retarded and a cuck.

>>32217915
This. If you like something and it gets, in your opinion, worse, do you immediately give up and leave? Or do you try to change it back?

Personally, I love the tempus collabs, but I can understand why people don't like them and are vocal for it. I do not like harassment or comments like SHE IS A FUCKING WHORE though

>>32218465
Spoken like a true incel

>>32218108
>Why is this always an argument?
Because it is literally incomprehensible to people without schizo brainrot to how this is a problem.
>dates a man
How long have you gone without human contact anon? Have you forgotten what words mean?

/u/ shitters should fuck off and die

>>32218452
let's say you know a girl who's completely pure and innocent. Then one day you see her whoring herself to random guys on street, robbing people and stabbing a guy to get her money to buy drugs. The next day she goes back to acting pure and innocent again. How would you feel about her?

Daily reminder that kronii gate was caused by virgins who could never have had female friends because of schizo jealousy

>>32218631
>Because it is literally incomprehensible to people without schizo brainrot to how this is a problem.
Uh huh, let me guess. You watch cgdgt because of the uhh..... comedy?
>How long have you gone without human contact anon? Have you forgotten what words mean?
Goes on a date, goes out with a man, eats out with a man, whatever. It could be for one episode and done as a joke, point is that it has literally never happened and you know why

>>32218846
She'd be scum. Good thing all that is way worse than what Kronii did though

>>32218108
>Why is this always an argument?
Because you can't beat it.

And, no, calling people cuck without context does not count.

>>32218934
Daily reminder that kronii gate was caused by virgins who have a permanent case of cuck mentality and spend their time in anime world watching cute girls doing cute things because they're incompatible with reality.

>>32218846
Anon I NEED you to explain how having a stream with a guy is equivalent to... all that shit you wrote.

>>32218979
The difference is the presence of a male in cgdct doesn't invalidate the cute girls and the cute things they're doing. If anything it's filler sidecontent

>>32218846
>talking to a male vtuber
>whoring herself to random guys on street
lol

If you didn't understand which apparently lots seem to not, she was shooting at male/female shippers, which is based.

>>32219123
>>32219152
>missing the point entirely
based retards
>>32219134
you dont watch anime

>>32219192
All shippers are trash. Her backing out for yuribait is what makes me angriest

>>32219192
>shipping bad, yuribait good
heh

>>32219251
what is the point you were trying to make there, it seems pretty unrelated in any way

>>32219095
Spending time watching anime girls doing cute things =/= developing emotional dependency on them and having schizo jealousy for something unhealthy / that doesn't exist.
That's just pajeet incel thinking, but you do you

>>32218579
Too bad we're her main source of income. Hope she enjoys going back to a shitty job once this gravy train ends.

NONE OF THIS BITCHES COULD SHUT THE FUCK UP? SHE WAS TOTALLY FINE AFTER THE COLLAB AND THEN SHE TRIED TO ''FIX IT'', BITCH SHUT YOUR MOUTH ALREADY YOU'RE ONLY DIGGING YOURSELF DEEPER AND DEEPER.

>>32218979
So why do you watch cgdgt?
Just fantasizing about fucking all of them?
Honestly I like girls in my anime and I'm fine with an all girl cast but pure cgdgt that's not comedy or drama is usually is just a snooze fest.

And you know what, if anime had 5 episodes a week and you knew what they were about there would be no problem deciding to skip some.

>>32219134
>The difference is the presence of a male in cgdct doesn't invalidate the cute girls and the cute things they're doing. If anything it's filler sidecontent
Did I say there couldn't be males? No one minds the brother in non non biyori, he's a side-character made for jokes. I guess this would be a better example, a male main character from another show comes for a cross-over to a cgdct show and he becomes the center of attention since he's obviously rare, but the audience obviously doesn't give a shit and is puzzled by it

>>32219527
because it's cute, dumb nigger
why do people watch cat videos on youtube?

>>32219251
Anon you have to be more clear with your point.
It looks like you are just dancing around it because it would make you seem like a complete fucking loser.
Clear the air, state it explicitly so we understand.

>>32217863
She should ignored this or call out the dumb ass unicorns losing their shit over male collabs but preferably ignoring them since now she going after bases who did nothing wrong to begin with. This wasn't even a rushia level yab but the actions she took where rushia menhera level od retardation.

>>32219527
>Honestly I like girls in my anime and I'm fine with an all girl cast but pure cgdgt that's not comedy or drama is usually is just a snooze fest.
>And you know what, if anime had 5 episodes a week and you knew what they were about there would be no problem deciding to skip some.
You'll never get it

>>32219484
>i buzzword
>racism outside of /b/
Why are you conceding?

>>32219637
Watching 20 minutes of cat videos at time would rot my brain.
Okay maybe I get the problem here.

>>32219267
She is straight, like 95% of the world, so yuri ships have an extra layer of separation from reality.

>>32219502
Nigga superchats are nowhere near the main source of income for any streamer and especially not holos

why do people who hate anime and anything anime related watch vtubers and post on an anime imageboard? I don't get it

>>32219593
I guess that makes sense. But even then, I doubt it justifies the shitstorm this board is in right now. After voicing your criticism, wouldn't the move be don't watch anymore content you dislike if not straight drop her?

>>32219851
>Implying all her other income won't drop too
Mori just had less than 3K viewers because of tempiss collabs. It's fucking over.

>>32218846
>imagine seeing this cartoon animated character who va isn't my friend or girlfriend having fun with her male coworker playing a lame ass game like dbd. It hurts me because i want her to be only for me! And her coworker get to spend time with her that i personally will never get.

Seethe you piece of shit

>>32219794
She also knows she isn't fucking any of the men, so she should be fine with that too then. She's worried about the communitie's perception in that case, so yuri should also not be accepted

>>32219945
DYRBI?

>>32218934
>yeah when kronii only spoke to girls i had the chance to fuck them both reee!

>>32215691
>unfortunately the culture that gave me a job exists
I wish this gook cunt would kill herself already. Or at least transition to make like she always wanted so she can join the holostars that she loves so much.

>sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex
>she's not fucking her lol sex fuck sex
>have sex have sex have sex
why are normalfags like this? Can't you guys think about anything else

>>32219945
that's normal for mori

Daily reminder that kronii has completely destroyed her reputation and now has to whore herself out to fans to rebuild it.

>>32219251
YOUR point is besides the point. This whole thing is retarded BECAUSE people equivalate simply talking to a male to being a whore sex hungry cum slut. Believing in some fantasy idol principles is something nobody wants except for the para-social loners doing it. If you take the "purity" meme too seriously you'll end up necking yourself when they ignore your sc.
>>32219704
Good rebuttal lol

>>32219527
redditor moment

>>32220189
IT'S NOT ABOUT SEX YOU RETARDED NIGGER
YOU FAGGOTS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO TALK ABOUT SEX
VTUBERS ARE CGDCT, IT'S MOE, IT'S EXPLICITLY NOT ABOUT SEX

>>32220129
Bro there's no real helping them. As a person that lives here I can tell you, westoids worship women. They will cuck, they will simp, they will do anything to support and worship women they'll never have a chance of fucking, and they are all porn riddled addicts.

>>32219949
NTA and I think shitting ont that retard is totally justifiable, but people who want to be there for CGDCT won't like male collabs, many are afraid that it will turn into open VC culture like NijisanjiEN was but so far nothing like that has happened yet and then you have people like that op either missing his own point and making a foul of himself or people saying idol culture le bad when they dont' know shit about it.

>>32220313
>WOW WHAT A SLUT WHORE I CANT BELIEVE THIS WHORE SLUT HAVING SEX ALREADY
Good meme

>>32219527
>5 episodes a week
lmao is that supposed to be a lot? Most people here watch at least 10 episodes every day
You normalfags can't stop outing yourselves

>>32220392
Why are twitterfag cuck tourists obsessed with sex?

Unicorns are absolutely based. If they're not providing you the content you are subsidizing, stop subsidizing it. There is no discussion.

>>32215691
Mori 2.0. Thinks she's too good for "those silly idol agencies".

>>32219945
>Kiara had 1k viewers while playing JRPG's
I had no idea that Tempus collabs were a thing back then.

>>32215691
>TIMESTAMP?
>LINK?
GIVE ME SOMETHING DAMN IT

>>32220129
>Everyone and everything is cucking me because everything is sex!!
Why are unicorns like this? Can't you guys think about anything other than getting cucked by something?

>>32220392
>/vt/ is one person
>strawman argument
yep is tourist time

>>32220594

>>32220661
No. The only thing I think about is dumping massive nuts into Ouro Kronii.

>>32220518
I can tell you why my dude. It actually makes all sense in the world too. Where do you suppose tumblrfags went when the site got the porn nuked?

>>32220806
Ok, final consensus? she's dumb as fuck and i'll be laughing my ass off at her graduation if this escalates.

>>32216082
No problem in hating them but at least treat your costumers right.

>>32220518
>>32220693
>incel fanbase turns her into a cum slut in literally every thread because of simply talking to male
>non-incels point out that talking to males doesn't make her a slut
>WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH SEX?!

>>32220374
Thats the reason i made it my mission to shit on them. This is nothing a huge nothing burger that was blown out of proportion by both sides. Because kronii only made shit worse by responding in the most retardistic fashion then double down with more retardation the next day till the point the clipper had to turn off the comments to save her from her own stupidity.

>>32219998
You are correct, she is worried about that.

If you are wondering why the community's perception does not care about lesbians is that all they know of them is porn. And, there, a man always join. For them, gay women are bi.

>>32220933
Well why are you, you fucking tourist cuck?
Your only argument is "incel".

>>32220480
You watch 10 episodes a day of the same anime?
Didn't know they get released so fast.

>>32219998
>yuri should not be accepted
Yes.

>>32221085
I just told you how I'm not, but you're a bit retarded.

>>32220933
>non-incels point out that talking to males doesn't make her a slut
Wrong. She's a slut for doing the collab, and owes us masturbation asmr. Being a slut for other guys but not us is exactly the problem here.

>>32220933
>non-incels
>talking about vtubers
kek

>>32221085
>tourist calling someone a tourist on a non-general board

>>32221085
>When being called out on bullshit he deflects by using 4chan lingos such as tourist fags instead of providing any reasonable points to advocate for their erratic behavior.

>>32219645
this. all she had to do was ignore the schizos and let move on to their next yab but she tried to address is cleverly and tripped. now they're feeding off of all of her backtracking.

>>32221203
Ye believe it or not there are mentally healthy ways of watching vtubers

>>32221288
>my level of parasocial relationship is normal

>>32215691
kek, now that's the bat signal for redditors to shit really hard on idol culture.Gura BTFO

>>32221194
Bro if you want to masturbate theres thousands of free porn sites to serve that issue...

whore

>>32220806
Can you link the video for this comment? Want to see it

>>32221280
cuck
cope
seethe

>>32221288
Has it ever occured to you that one can be an incel and mentally healthy at the same time, westoid-kun?

>>32221280
go back lol or at least lurk for a few years

> Unfortunately, because idol culture is a thing...

>>32219527
I bet you don't even do your annual Haruhi rewatch reps lmao
I binge watch the endless eight every time and I always enjoy it
>>32221130
(You)

>>32221595
Is this where I reply with a gif of a holo member laughing at you?

>>32220129
meanwhile, unicornfags are equating merely speaking with a male with sex, and talking about feelings of being “cucked”
you’re not that different nigga
can’t you guys think of anything else?

Because she is like every single female streamer out there.
She wants to have her cake and eat it too.

I feel a little bad for Kronii, but hopefully in the end the chances of Mooms or Fauna ever collabing with homoEN after this shitshow are close to zero.

>>32221645
Hold on now, that anime has 2(two) guys in it!
Sometimes even more.
How can you stand to watch it?

i don't like it, this yab is too short
schizos do something

>>32215983
the stream was incredible. Too bad it was a member stream or the shitstorm would be even bigger

>>32221759
Haruhi isn't a CGDCT retard

>>32221645
I'll be honest anon, Haruhi is trash and the cult following it has is from braindead idiots.
I have seen worse anime in my time but it's up there.

>>32221830
you're the reason why 4chan is shit now

>>32215691
The worst thing is that she was doing a fuckton of GFE content like the ASMR stream and was being extremely parasocial with her fans lately.
She's such a hypocrite bitch it's unreal, anyone still supporting her is mentally ill.

>>32216711

>>32220912
*rapes you*
*beheads you ritualistically*
*dicks your oshi*

>>32221692
Feel free. Incel here by the way. Not very rich, don't have means to date a woman right now. Don't care for unicorns or normalfags. Thing is the unicorns actually pay bills and you normalfags just worship women blindly, who you're not fucking and rush to defend them at any opportunity. You're both fucking retarded for very different reasons. Except the unicorn is more respectable because he actually has a rule when he gives whores money. You on the other hand m'lady them for free. Feel free to post a chuckle in response.

>>32215691
Now that everyone knows what the real problem is (idol culture making incels entitled) normies will go on a crusade against it
i told you this was going to backfire, incels

>>32221549
>once again the infantile manchild sits in the darkest corner of the room covering his ears as he shout that he isn't listening because he has no solid to point to validate this subhuman troglodyte behavior.

Your father failed you anon. You're supposed to be a man and not act like a closeted fag inserting delusions about dumb shit that will never happen on stream. Now if you want to be technical you should be worried more about what happens offline. But of course you only think with a dick that only gets hard at the sight of anime girls and not real women as far as being a cuck i do not give these girls any money or think about them as my girlfriend. The cuck here my anon friend is you.

>>32221901
It has the flattest characters, Haruhi is a giant bitch and the plot is intriguing but then completely unexplored and wasted.
The whole show is a disappointment that does not deliver.

>>32220920
Cope, incel chud

>>32221992
>you normalfags just worship women blindly
Just goes to show how disconnected incels are

>>32221992
based based

>>32220153
No. That viewership is normal for Kiara.

>>32216105
Oh come on, where's the fun in that?

>>32221595
>is undesirable to the point of being “involuntarily celibate”
>is some how “mentally healthy”
I can speak about this because I’m in that position. Let’s not kid ourselves, faggot. It’s very hurtful to one’s mental state to essentially be rejected from society. I know ‘incel’ is just a buzzword these days, even on 4chan, but it does fuck with one mentally to be an incel (in the actual true sense of the word). It’s obvious. Anyone who is in that position in relation to the rest of society knows it.

>>32222053
You're a disappointment and your mother shouldn't have delivered you

>>32222222

>>32222283
wasted

>>32215691
OH NO NO NO
i though we won incelbros? incel cultu- i mean, idol culture is in danger now
AAAAAIIIIIEEE WE CAN'T OPRESS THEM, WESTERN WOMEN ARE TOO SMART

>>32221992
>I tried interacting with women by worshiping them which turned me into a loser, so I'm now an incel with a made up perception of everyone else and male-woman interactions means worship
One thing's for sure. The fact that incels can't reproduce (consensually) is a blessing

>>32215691
>I banked on GFE and I don't like it anymore but trying to escape it will cost me a lot. This is your fault.

>>32222086
No one needs to be a incel to notice that those girls earn their bills by putting a show to manchildren. Imagine being so entitled to think they can order around the people paying for their expenses.

>>32219527
>pure cgdgt that's not comedy or drama
give examples

>>32222340
it’s not really a significant get, anyway
33333333 is cooler

>>32221992
Hesitation is defeat. Based Incel chad is right.

>>32215691
She went from a cocky and condescending rant filled with mockery to play victim, blame others and trying to moralize the problem within a fucking day, holy fuck she was even advised to stfu but then again her type is known for pulling this shit everywhere they go, sigh.

>>32222565
he can't, he doesn't watch anime

Sadly, this >>32216234 is true
Hololive stopped being an idol company when they hired the nigger of nippon

Why do you retards like idol culture, when it means you would never be allowed to fuck your oshi?

I'm genuinely curious, can the cucks yelling "incel" and "unicorn" explain me their reasoning?
People who are against the homo collabs just watch Hololive for the CGDCT experience and are annoyed by the sudden change of direction after 2 years of HoloEN being a thing.
But why is the other party defending this shit?

>>32222622
>idol culture
Get with the times grandpa, CGDCT is the superior justification for segregation

>>32222622
sex is cringe and disgusting, I don't want to have sex. Only normalfags like sex.
I just want cute things

>>32222534
Man children are the cause because they like cute anime women the same way rapists go for the pretty girls.

>>32220153
No horse in this race but Mori used to be in the 8k to 10k depending on stream. Can't remember when it dropped but it was somewhat recent.

>>32219874
sunk cost fallacy

You guys are retards, she didn't say idol culture is bad she said the double standard is unfortunate because now she has to deal with you schizos sperging when she basically just said she doesn't want to be shipped with tempus and you go "MUH BUT WHAT ABOUT MUMEI" kronii is also incredibly incompetent and autistic so of course she's going to dig the hole deeper and that's why she's cute

>>32215691
Kek

>>32222622
They talk about rape correction a lot. Assume you and I know what would happen. They're living their japanese boss rape hentai fantasies through them.

>>32215691
>one month of tempiss turned hololiveEN anti idol culture

>>32222712
But anon, your oshii is apparently a slut now. She did the sex through talking on discord.

>>32215790
its amazing how much she sucks at handling what happened but keeps trying again and again

>>32222612
That's a western woman in general you described there anon.

>>32222622
If I don't get to have sex I don't want to be reminded that other people have sex.
Idol culture is the last fucking hobby that hasn't been infected by americans and their politics and I will do everything to gatekeep you fucking subhumans.

>>32222622
Why does every streamer have to follow western standards? Its baffling how this argument works both ways and yet you bad actors pretend having the "idol rules" is a war crime.

>>32222868
She got the Morid-19 virus

>>32215691
I'm glad I dropped her and cancelled my membership after she went MIA in November and February.

>>32222865
I don't even watch hololive
>oshii
and you don't even watch vtubers

>>32222868
The only damage control to damage control is more damage control
>>32222897
>If I don't get to have sex I don't want to be reminded that other people have sex.
Is your school bag even big enough for a gun?

>>32222630
They have to pretend that they're watching vtubers for a better reason to not be considered a loser like everyone else

>>32222903
Because holoen is a western branch you dumb weeb fucking burger. This is what happens when you feed your brain decades of Japanese weeb culture your brain gone man that shit fried.

>>32222751
Hey, no one said getting money was easy. If they can't take the heat they should just become a cashier or something but I doubt their ego would allow it.

>>32215691
she wants to suck cock on stream but Cover won't let her

>>32222879
she’s a Korean though
You’d think her family would have raised her better
Maybe it’s not a western problem and just a female problem
Females have been a problem since the beginning
Ask Eve
Nothing new under the sun

>>32223111
It's good to make yourself feel better by kidding everyone else is like you, but it's not perhaps healthy

>>32222630
they're twitter tourists trying to "own" the incels, you don't normally see these kinds of posts here, they only come here when a drama starts
or they're just shitposters baiting for easy (You)s

>>32222630
It's the same reason male feminists exist my dude. They support chicks that would basically send them to auschwitz if they could in the hopes that they'll get approval and thus pussy. If there's a woman socially in danger, 'she could lose income if she's deemed to be acting like a whore' and they just boil that down lower to remove the actual fucking bit. 'What, they're mad that she's collabing with males?! Must defend muh lady'. Betas gonna beta. When everyone of these girls knew what idol culture was and was like before they got in and said fuck yeah, dat cash tho.

Simp defense out in full force I see.
People just don't want their entertainer to make certain type of content, how is that so hard to comprehend? Why do you always resort to insults and strawmans?
The only decent argument I've seen is "just don't watch those streams". But in response to that, why would you keep following someone who makes content you don't like? The streamer doesn't have to give in to viewer demands, but the opposite is also true: the viewer does not owe the streamer their support.

The actual solution to this is to separate and appeal to different niches. There are plenty of other vtuber groups that have no intention on following idol culture, but that wouldn't be good enough, would it? Some want to have their cake and eat it too, so they'll instead join Hololive for the big numbers, play along and grow the following, then do things that viewers don't want, predictably get backlash after which you start shifting the blame.

TLDR: Don't complain about idol culture but still try to leech on idolfags. Go do your thing somewhere else, and take your defenders with you.

>wait WHAAAT? a WOMAN doesnt like otaku or understand them!? UNBELIEVABLE

>>32223239
>by kidding
Can't type busy sexing my oshi

>>32216105
hello kronii

>>32223311
>wait WHAAAT? a WOMAN doesnt like otaku or understand them but still want to leech of them? UNBELIEVABLE

>>32222622
The gap between understanding is so stark it's comical. Once again you seem to prioritize sex so highly that you don't even make consideration of other things. To unicorns sex is just one aspect of love, albeit perhaps an important one, as it represents the consummation of it. But the real reason why they're hurt is because of other concepts like trust/loyalty/betrayal (if you were in Mori or Kronii's threads during their respective collabs, they had the exact same despondent mood). The concept of romance is lost on you, who can't grasp the idea of someone liking someone so much that it would explain the things that they do.

>>32222053
>>32222190

I never followed discussions on this series until recently, so it was a surprise to realize that it's unironically too deep for some fags. Like dude, it's not even deep, yet it still flies over some peoples heads.
It delivers perfectly fine, you're just too much of a tasteless bitch.

>>32223215
Anon. Western culture is too powerful. There's PLENTY of traditional asians who got sucked in by it. Ever heard of San Francisco? Culture is VERY powerful and not all who had strong family structure can be impervious to it. And yes, it is a female problem. They're more vulnerable to societal brainwashing than we are. When we were traditionally conservative, the women were WAY more conservative than dudes at the time. And now that were liberal, the women are WAY more liberal than we are.

>>32223277
>I don't enjoy the 2D woman of my dreams talking to a male so instead of ignoring the content/ watching someone else I'll go on a crusade to call her a whore and a slut for having sex by talking, and call anyone pulling back a simp or cuck

>>32223311
If you don't like otaku and otaku culture then don't try to be a part of the otaku culture
Why not just be a normal streamer?

>>32216105
Nah, I prefer rape

>>32223155
You already have Vwhores and Nijiniggers.
HoloEN that don't emulate their JP senpai need to get graduated and join those shitshows.

>>32223277
>why would you keep following someone who makes content you don't like?
Because you don't have to enjoy 100% of the content someone makes. If you can't ignore that some of the content isn't what you want, then yeah, just take your support somewhere else.

>>32223457
And he's going find love via a virtual girl friend experience.

Okay im done lol my brain hurts

>>32223277
Seriously, fucking losers. Go to Vshojo or niji if thats ur thing.

>>32223550
>Why not just be a normal streamer?
There is no normal streaming company that will make a literally nobody into a 1m like holo does

Kronii probably hates most of her fans, but I completely understand why

>>32223618
> If you can't ignore that some of the content isn't what you want, then yeah, just take your support somewhere else.
If they can't adapt to holo Culture they should just join the whores at Vshojo instead of applying to hololive and attempting to shit it up.

> Vtuber exposes Hololive's toxic culture
> Thumb: Idol culture or Incel culture?!

>>32222897
Just get sex. It's easy.

Or at least don't get mad at people who aren't as lazy as you

>>32223516
there’s nothing new under the sun.
western culture isn’t the cause of worldwide female promiscuity
females are females
your perspective of the world is not full enough. again, nothing new under the sun

>>32215691
so when is the suicide stream?

>>32223616
Still the western branch no matter how many different narrative you spin.

>>32223699
then get an actual job if you're doing it for money

>>32223699
Amazing...you mean theres something cover is doing that drastically boosts talent success...I wonder what that is...

>>32223535
>SEEEEEEXXXXXX HNGGGGGGHHHH SEXXXXXXXXX SEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXX

>>32223699
Right,but have you ever wondered WHY their brand can do that? You know, like, what about it makes people watch? What are they selling as their brand image? Think, femanon!

>>32223385
>having friends
imagine streaming for a year and still not understanding who your audience is

>>32223746
Uh yes it is dude. Who culturally owns the world? Yes. The west. Are Japanese or Vietnamese owning and wearing traditional clothes? Or blue jeans? Are they and have they been listening to American music for decades now? Yes they have. Simply track feminism and its start point and end point and it paints the picture. It's a spread. And it spread due to movies and culture. Genetic triggers can be activated due to a change of environment.

>>32223836
>But anon I just want to get hundreds of thousands and not be pestered or told what to do!

>>32223970
>Think, femanon
but anon, femanons are females!!

>>32222630
They're either clipwatching, virtue signaling redditors who are praying for the girls to talk about how much cock they suck on stream or nijiniggers shitting up the threads.

>>32224017
>Who culturally owns the world? Yes. The west.
The west is about to freeze to death because they can't afford energy.

>nerrev the cuck turned off comments on his clip

>>32216105
Considering ad hominem arguments is all you fucks have I'll blogpost. I'm a pretty normal guy, even had a few relationship but now I prefer being single and focusing on myself. I have a healthy amount of friends ranging from nerdy dudes to total dudebros. I even despise anime and weeb culture but I used to watch CGDCT in high school during some shitty times and Hololive made me relive those fun times. I started by watching some clips expecting to cringe but I found myself smiling the whole time. I tried to branch out and give a chance to Nijisanji and I didn't like it, so I'd be sad if Hololive turned like that.
That's fucking it. The whole "incel" argument doesn't even work when just watching anime back in the day was considered "Incel" behaviour and now it's so fucking mainstream even fucking Bin Laden was watching that shit in his cave.

>>32224104
To save kronii from herself lol

>>32224086
No it isn't retard. It will freeze to death when it runs out of coal or oil, or refuses to build nuclear plants. If that's not whats gonna happen, and its not, its planned. Brainlet.

>>32215691
hololive is too harsh, it should be a dream job, it shouldn't have these hidden rules

>>32224134
ok just stop watching then?
or just don't watch the streams where they collab with men??

>>32223901
Every other post on /vt/ is some variation of “sex” or “yeah, me”. Why are you fags suddenly pretending sex or the idea thereof is unimportant or something only the “invading normalfags” care about now

>>32222622
>when it means you would never be allowed to fuck your oshi?
https://www.asiaone.com/asia/winning-life-japanese-man-47-marries-his-favourite-idol-20

>>32224209
only money no effort

>>32223658
Some of the greatest romantic works were created that way.

>>32224234
most people on /vt/ are normalfags

H-How do you even join a company that is famous for Idol activities with a mentality like this? I Know people love to joke about "XDD they are actually comedians" but hololive does a lot of Idol like events, Idol culture is just not what you think is le bad

>>32224297
Such as?

>>32216105
It only takes this kind of post to make /vt/ seethe huh.

>>32224226
>You will not watch when it happen and you will be happy
Nta suck it faggot i will shit on the wall when it happen and there is nothing you can do

>>32224226
Why don't you just ignore when people complain?
Just stop reading when people complain.

>>32224226
Or maybe they could do the sane thing and have some respect for the fans and just not collab with the homos? Like they did for the past year or more?

>>32224362
Dante

>>32224226
Her recent twitter outbursts and member streams prove it's affecting her. I will not stop. Hololive will NOT turn into NijiEN.

>>32224234
We had enough of the normalfags back on /hlgg/ on /jp/. Gee its almost like once we knew a new board would be made, some of us knew we'd get 10x the amount of the fuckers.

>>32224397
I almost feel bad

>>32222868
You see anon kronii is a depressed bitch who uses her fanbase for mental support but after her monumental fuck up, all her echo chambers are a mess, crumbling in front of her, so she's panicking and making everything worst, which is hilarious but also a little sad.

>>32224314
council was a mistake and omegatroon needs to be hanged

>>32223701
She hates people who like to stir shit and fight. People like you, for instance. She makes that very clear every members stream where issues such as this arise.

>>32215691
Forgive her, her actions are positive for Idol culture and she knows it's the best way to avoid drama, Blame Mori for recruiting her to a war she clearly doesn't want to fight at all. Kronii had no Idea she would have to deal with this shit and I can guarantee you, would have never collabed if she knew, she doesn't need the homos and her ideology doesn't require her to fight moral wars, she was perfectly fine in her own lane until the pink nation attacked.

>>32224314
Idols aren't prohibited from professional interactions with men.

>>32215691
come home Kronii.

>>32224226
Go back to twitter/reddit/discord faggot

>>32224017
Uhh, Japanese hardly listen to Western music.
Obviously a few songs get popular but they have their own, entire music industry that caters to almost all genres.

>And it spread due to movies and culture
Nothing to do with American Imperialism, nah.

>>32224558
yes because people having opinions means she has to take a stand and lose some of her fans, that's bad for business

holokek status? NIJISANJIFIED

>just pretend episodes you don't like aren't canon

>>32224566
Ina's interaction with men was professional, this wasn't.

>>32224566
real Idols also don't have the private discord of said professional men but managers who handle the contacts.

The last real idols were in the 80s

CGDCT comparison is retarded
vtubers are real people, they're not anime

>>32224661
>di*ney Star Wars
Unsalvagable Kronii is not

>>32224717
How so? They're on the job.

>>32224017
there’s nothing new under the sun, don’t you understand that? everyone is so naive about the history of the world and would like to believe that “The west” is the cause of something that has been a constant problem throughout world history (before “the west” as a concept ever even existed, mind you). it’s an issue with women, throughout history not just now, making it a human female problem and not a “western” problem
the grass is always greener on the other side

>>32224717
but ina has a irl bf so its better not to use her as an example

>>32224497
Hololive has been "NijiEN" since before you could understand what the talent were saying.

>>32224844
so do most idols

>>32215691
>join idol company
>complain about idol culture
I knew she was a dumb bitch before this, but damn.
EN was a fucking mistake.

>>32224804
>vtubers are real people, they're not anime
This is why the western scene was doomed from the start
You will NEVER have a pekora

>>32224566
Sure I agree but the whole "unfortunately" shit was unnecessary, if you want to be just an streamer girl with an avatar don't fucking apply to hololive

>>32215691
She's a twittard through and through lmao and has no clue about her own company holy shit.
Council was a mistake and this mistake keeps on emphasizing itself time and time again.

>>32224927
I rather have a korone.

>>32224104
He was probably asked to and there's no refusing. Hololive clippers are at the mercy of Cover, they could copyright claim every clip if they wanted to. Obviously they don't because that would kill off clippers and it's useful to have them, but if they think a clip (or its comments section) is harmful, they're well within their right to shut it down, so the clipper is better off complying if they ask nicely.

>>32224640
No it didn't. Are you retarded? American soft power is culture itself. It doesn't need to mandate everything. Do the Japanese not consume American movies? Did rap become a thing and then the Japanese took it and made their own version/genres of it? Really dude?

>>32224835
No dude. We're not, and you're being basic. Every ancient text tells people to control their women because if you don't you're ruined. The west is the cause of creation of this problem in a modern context, as the west holds the most power today and now. This could end in say 20-40 years if we wanted it to. But its more profitable to do this.

>>32224864
Explain how so, I'm curious about your reasoning

>>32224927
>>32224975
Then I'll have an Okayu

>>32223746
>there’s nothing new under the sun.
'Among the things I seek but have not found: one man among a thousand I did find, but I have not found one woman to be wise among all these'.
- Ecclesiastes 7:28

>>32222622
Idol culture work exactly the same way as market used to work just a few decades ago, you pay for a product and expect certain quality, the consumer have near 100% control over what kind of product he get because unwanted products simply don't sell, the purity shit isn't there because someone enforce it but because that's what sell, if you hate that part of idol culture then your problem isn't idol culture but men, plain and simple. Sadly western people are conditioned to eat shit and be thankful for having the opportunity to consume it, because their market is owned by few corporations that agreed to produce only shit so they don't really have a choice, now you guys think this is normal and that's really sad.

>>32225011
OG hololive jp used to collab with males fubuki still does i believe.

>>32223746
jewish hands typed this

lol enfags just can't stop losing

>>32216105
KRONII RAPE

>>32225067
Based

>>32225117
fubuki is a whore

>>32224945
Right, but she's our bluetard. The moment she took the job, she signed up to be owned wholesale by chudcels. After cycling through the stages of grief, sometimes you just gotta do the best you can with the chubas you're given.

>>32225079
puritan zealotry is old hat. why don't you kys to get your 72 virgins or fuck joseph or whatever nonsense you believe in?

>>32225310
BASED LMAO

>>32224864
>Hololive has been "NijiEN"
>has been
why do you talk with your ass?

>>32224844
The talents with boyfriends seem to understand better that nobody wants to watch someone they like flirt with a member of the opposite sex. This isn't just some incel thing, normies hate it too. Bradley Cooper's girlfriend left him after he did that duet with Lady Gaga at the Oscars.

https://youtu.be/ohsk2FrZ40g
Imagine having the fucking guts to make this kind of content and then go and call your fanbase "creepy" and "weird". Bitch you are a failed voice actress who now does ASMR using provocative art to get money from lonely nerds, you don't get to have the moral high ground too.

>>32225117
NijiEN isn't just male interaction, the females become accesories to the men. This could happen for real to hololive, but in a different way because the average is a fucking retarded meme spouter and I'm 100% sure you'll get unironic MAGGED, "Another member to the Hero's harem :)" or shit like Axel pounding Nodoka comments in the future

>>32225001
>American soft power is culture itself.
>America
>Soft Power
'The Americans were also driven by concepts of manifest destiny and the desire to impose the benefits of western civilization and the Christian religion on what they perceived as backward Asian nations'
'When Commodore Matthew C. Perry's four-ship squadron appeared in Edo Bay (Tokyo Bay) in July 1853, the shogunate was thrown into turmoil. Commodore Perry was fully prepared for hostilities if his negotiations with the Japanese failed, and threatened to open fire if the Japanese refused to negotiate. He gave them two white flags, telling them to hoist the flags when they wished a bombardment from his fleet to cease and to surrender.[8] To demonstrate his weapons, Perry ordered his ships to attack several buildings around the harbor'.

>Do the Japanese not consume American movies?
Sure, it's hard not to when they make 50% of blockbuster films.

Anyway, it seems like we agree on that women need to be controlled (or are inherently controlled by social pressures and we need to control social pressures).
Let me just say this: the Koreans practice circumcision because the Americans do (and they adopted it from Americans) but the Japanese do not.

>>32225117
Extremely rarely.
OG hololive did a lot of random things until they realized what worked and angled toward that. Now male collabs are an extreme rarity outside of special events or songs.

It happens, but there's usually a clear line drawn in how its done, and usually its from people like Fubuki who have a history of outreach.
Its like claiming Sora does male collabs all the time because periodically she'd do events with real life male MCs.

>first Sana
>Now Kronii
Council is literally just girls that wanted to have "I was in hololive" in their resume, somehow the only one that actually likes the brand is Bae by being a homo lover

>>32218452
A once in a while collab if ignored could be normalized. Once normalized it could become the shitshow of nijien where almost every content is collab with males

>>32224844
Every single girl in hololive (ID JP EN) above the age of the 20 has had at LEAST one boyfriend, even if they aren’t currently dating. It’s reasonable to assume considering general statistics. A few are even confirmed to be married.
With this info in mind, I’ve even seen a few unicorncucks recently come up with a new cope that “as long as I never ever hear about it, I don’t care”. These weren’t anti-idol culture people saying this, mind you. When backed into a corner using logic a lot of unicorns will fold because they are just that weak. They’d rather straight up live in denial of the other man than to ever know the truth. Guess that’s the true Girlfriend Experience, though.

>>32225310
Fuck Puritans, that's exactly what American Christianity is.

>or whatever nonsense you believe in?
'The main business of religions is to purify, control, and restrain that excessive and exclusive taste for well-being which men acquire in times of equality'.
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

>>32225480
Yes, but I still stand by that statement of soft power. Why? Because why hasn't anyone rebelled? They know there's a military that can probably crush them, but they're being seduced anon. It's the same reason why the Israelis broadcast porn to palestinian houses. They wouldn't do this if it didn't work.

>>32225634
idolfags, gachikoi and unicorn are different things retard
unicorns want girls to be pure, that doesn't just mean no current boyfriend, it means pure virgin who doesn't know what sex is
the people you're talking about aren't unicorns

Been watching vtubers since 2018 and never fell into the mentally ill perception that I own their genitals or who they are allowed to talk to. If their content doesn't speak to me I just move on without calling anyone names like "whore" or "slut" out of repressed anger. They've never been a replacement for actual female friends or girl friends.
Even if the vtuber did girlfriend experience at the end of the day it's all a fun temporary make-believe.
The void of escapism should always have self-imposed limits. Even if it fills a hole of loneliness it should always be treated as such and nothing more, in order to leave room for self improvement.

But I guess I'm just a "simp" for this type of attitude?

>>32225001
you’re being basic by boiling all your problems down to “the west”, as if this problem exists because of the west alone
you’re naive and deluded about other cultures
and especially about history
I know that ancient texts have laws, but have you ever heard of sodom? Gomorrah?
I reiterate, the problems we face are nothing new

>>32225805
no one asked

>>32215691
Omegatranny will fulfill his objective of full Nijisanjification of HoloEN! if he doesn't destroy it in the process! truly the real Nijispy, kneel

>>32215691
Wait what? Last I heard her goslings and unicorns were happy that she defended them in a members stream. Is she flip flopping again?

>>32225079
i know
why’d you quote it to me though

>>32219867
They're normalfags from Twitter

>>32225533
I kinda of want it to be like this male collabs are allowed but not as frequent i don't mind it but I also don't want one of the boys with no chills like axel saying something thats going get him or the rest of tempus in trouble. For now tempus should be its own thing and pave the way for the next gen when it happens and let the girl continue doing what they're doing i enjoyed the dbd collab but right now the girl should focus on growing their channel even ID looks good in comparison.

>>32225901
sunk cost fallacy
they are cucks now

I see twitter tourists are still polluting this board. Not that I blame them, Twitter is a shithole after all

>>32224226
One or two are easy to ignore but weekly collabs and more of EN joining is not.
Would a cgdct anime still actually be cgdct if 1/4 or 1/3 of the episodes didn’t have that?
Niji EN was a female only group for about half a year. Do they still feel like a female only group even though the girls still do plenty of only girls collabs?
Stars EN is in even more of a predicament with 75% of their members doing Holo collabs and having more Holo collabs than with other Stars members.
Do they actually feel like part of a male only idol group like the other Stars or do they feel more like a part of Holo EN?

I'm not on my meds,
Got your superchats
You brought me fame and fortune, and everything that goes with it
I hate you for that

Cause it's been a bed of roses
But that's a bore
I consider it a challenge before the whole human race
I just have to be a whore!

And I need just go on and on, and on, and on

I am a woman, dumb fans
And i'll keep on bitching 'til the end
I am a woman
I am a woman
No time for incels
'Cause I must suck every cock in the woooooooorld

>>32225634
>as long as I never ever hear about it, I don’t care
unironically nothing wrong with that, wanting to completely control another person's life is psycho behaviour. Wanting a performer to be professional on stage and criticizing him is normal. If I go to see a dramatic play and one of the actor suddenly starts texting his girlfriend people are gonna throw fucking rocks and bottles on stage.

>>32225864
I didn't say they were. I'm saying the one who is in control now, actively pursues this, and has the most reach in TODAYS world, as opposed to say 150 years ago when it did not. Not the world of 2000 years ago when everyone was doing it. It's not 'why its happening' it's 'why is it happening now'. Get it?

>>32226057
mori please

Stop trying to ruin my hobby, normies.“But you’re acting like an incel loser schizo.” And?

>>32226057
I want a soundpost of this.

>>32225730
>Because why hasn't anyone rebelled?
I don't quite understand, since I just jumped into your converstation with that other guy, but I'll have a stab anyway.
Anyway:
after WWII, the Americans hanged many Japanese, and not for morality points.

'Upon this, one has to remark that men ought either to be well treated or crushed, because they can avenge themselves of lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot; therefore the injury that is to be done to a man ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand in fear of revenge'.
- Niccolò Machiavelli, 'De Principatibus'

One guy did try to rebel, actually, Yukio Mishima, a famous author.
He tried to rally the troops to re-instate the power of the Emperor and, failing, committed seppuku.

>>32225901
Kronii is an oblivious troon who doesn't know what she's saying or doing, presumably surrounded by people who also don't know shit. But she's hololive and we wanna fuck her, so sometimes you just gotta roll your sleeves up and see what can be done.

>>32224645
Nigga i'm glad your oshi got nice tits and armpit windows, do not ruin it.

>>32226057
Mori new single?

>>32225873
Imagine only speaking when asked.

>>32225634
>“as long as I never ever hear about it, I don’t care”
This isn't a cope, its reality.
I understand everyone in the world has a relationship except me, I just don't want to hear about it.
I don't want to hear my coworkers talking about their family.
I don't want to hear my friends talking about their relationships.
I don't want to listen to people rubbing in that I'm single and don't have anyone. Good for them, but stop bringing it up EVERYWHERE I go.

I'm here to watch an anime girl stream vidya and sing karaoke. Not to hear about her romances or her flirting with guys.
Its that fucking simple. I don't understand why its so hard for you people to understand that not everything is about me wanting to bang the person I'm watching.

>>32226057
This sounds like something ahem the cowboy would sing

>>32225146
dumb hands typed this post
you think Jews are doing much better with regards to the female problem? look at Israel, haha. prostitutes everywhere in the holy city
Jews own your mind, so maybe they’re doing something right

>>32219867
>watch vtubers
You think these people watch vtubers?
lol, lmao even

>>32225928
I misunderstood what you two were arguing about.
I see, now, that you two are in agreement about the current situation, but disagree of how that came about.
I haven't a concise theory I believe for that since, to me, solving the problem is rather simple (kill leftists) so what caused it does not prohibit fixing it, so long as we continue the fixture.

>>32225901
>Last I heard her goslings and unicorns were happy that she defended them in a members stream
did she? I only saw a few posts and at best Kronii asked for no shippings because some "weirdos" might have a problem with that. She never apologized, she never said she won't collab again with them and she never said she understands their point of view.

>>32215691
This face is the best thing to have come out of HoloEN, and you can't change my mind.

>>32226354
Anon don't ruin the fantasy

>>32226027
Considering her message, Kronii is one too.

>>32226155
Yes, but thats what I mean. One guy is not a popular uprising. You need at least around 2% of the population to start a rebellion. If its that intolerable, masses will take action. That's what I'm saying. No one will look at the years of American imperialism and say, gee that was awful. I'm fed, there's porn, there's water, there's hospitals... All of your bodily needs are met. And after they're met, you go and watch movies and start to say 'yeah, that seems right'. Rome did this same shit back in the day. They treated many tribes on their borders to trade and noticed the ones who traded with them were more docile. Like why are you even trying to argue this? People like comforts and will happily give their freedom for them.

>>32226269
yup definitely a jew

>>32225901
She tries to appease everyone. With shit results.

>>32225901
just LARP from tourists, nothing really changed, she said it's unreasonable to expect them to not collab and they're trying to twist it as a win to drown criticism

>>32226004
There's a way of doing it.
For example nobody gives a shit about Towa constantly hanging out with guys, but that's because Towa does nothing but play FPS games which is male dominated.
Plus Towa is basically a man and an honorary bro-tuber.

>>32219867
>why do people who hate anime and anything anime related watch vtubers and post on an anime imageboard? I don't get it
There's v-tubers who literally think Mao Zedong was a good leader and is a literal 'socialist', full on vegan and ALL that typical leftist bullshit.
I had the displeasure of meeting their fans.

And, all that said, even vshojo hate anime and Japanese culture (great hypocricy since 'shojo' is a Japanese word), and they have a steady thread here.

>>32226269
Do you think a population that defines itself matriliny gives a fuck about whores or cuckoldry, jew-san? You don't track birth through the father to begin with lol.

>>32226429
>it was like she was looking at walking garbage
>thought kronii when she looked into a mirror
We know she's depressed, but that kind of self deprecation won't help

>>32226490
Why would she think that’s unreasonable when most of JP doesn’t?
Besides, I don’t think most people are mad about this one collab from her specifically but the overall trend towards making Stars collab a regular thing.

>>32225413
>>32224844
curious, are boyfriends incels who can't cope with their gf having male collabs?
Maybe the boyfriend doesn't appreciate collabs with males as well.

>>32226453
I just find it funny how Jews are an obsession of yours
they’re not the only ethnicity or group throughout history to cause problems. I also wish I could help you understand that Jewish influence is waning everyday. half the battle is stepping outside of the propagandized image of Jews and realizing how they are losing ground in the battle of information. Even adl admits that billions of people worldwide are anti Semitic
Also you’re problably a mischling, it’s surprising how many part-Jewish people there are who hate themselves. Even /pol/acks admit to their Jewishness from time to time

>>32226890
>I just find it funny how Jews are an obsession of yours
they’re not the only ethnicity or group throughout history to cause problems.
No... but they are the only one to cause enough problems to get kicked out 109 times. You know if I got kicked out of that many bars, at some point i'd start to wonder if its me.

>x is/isn't 'a thing'
unrelated but I hate this phrase that's cropped up in the last decade or so. please learn basic vocabulary in yoir native language. at least 'like' is a time filler word stalling for actual words instead of a substitute

>>32226505
Socialism is no more flawed than Capitalism. Both rely on the idea that humans aren't inherently greedy assholes who will destroy the founding principals using the power they gained from the original principal.

Socialism fails because the leaders can be corrupt and manipulate laws to empower themselves further. But capitalism just results in the same thing just with money.
Sure in a socialist regime the government can create a singular point for a market, but in capitalism that happens naturally as the main competitor is able to just manipulate the market and drive any competitor out of business because they can even pose a threat. And then afterwards gouge everyone who has to rely on them.

>>32226890

>>32226448
>You need at least around 2% of the population to start a rebellion
The most important thing you need is: an armed prophet (prophet with the meaning, inspiriational leader).
'Hence it comes that all armed prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed prophets have been destroyed'.
- De Principatibus

But yes, what you say is generally correct, I wasn't arguing that (I only did so in the beginning from my own misunderstanding).
For internal rebellions though, it is a slightly diffferent case, which this book more aptly explains why men may not rebel:
'It ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them'.
- De Principatibus

>>32226505
>There's v-tubers who literally think Mao Zedong was a good leader and is a literal 'socialist', full on vegan and ALL that typical leftist bullshit.
>I had the displeasure of meeting their fans.
what does that have to do with anime and otaku culture??

>>32226226
This ties a knot into the simping brain.
Statistically, assuming there are no girls on the internet, singles and HKVs are a common occurence in 1st world countries. Especially in fringe hobbies like ours.
If you imagine an angry normalfag virgin with rage typing "Have sex incel! Touch Grass!" etc. etc. things become clearer.

There are two types of terminally online, male, hetero/bisexual singles: Those who are hopeless coomers and eat that vshojo shit up, and those who are more romantically inclined and escape to idolized versions of women, like with anime or with Hololive.

>>32226890
>billions of people worldwide are anti Semitic
Those would be Islamics, who, by the Koran, are necessarily anti-Jewish (Arabs are semetic as well).

>>32222897
This.

>>32226890
>billions of people worldwide are anti Semitic
definitely not their fault btw, they were completely innocent

>>32215691
>Literally Mori but with no musical ability
Why do people like this loser again?

>>32227205
If you're asking why I'm talking about them, they came here and their vtuber uses an anime avatar.

If you're asking why they came here, it's because they're obnoxious socialists who can't shut up about how 'great' socialism is.

i see Cover is trying to change the status quo with a little collab here, one there, going full NijiEN will just alienate some fans. HoloJP is a lost cause though, jap incels are too conservative

>>32227428
No I'm asking why would being a mao zedong supporter socialist vegan stop them from being otaku
I understand your point and I think they should be thrown out of helicopters but that really doesn't have anything to do with my post

>>32226890
>it’s surprising how many part-Jewish people there are who hate themselves
Bobby Fischer, one of the worlds greatest Chess players, is Jewish and hates Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer
>was an American chess grandmaster and the eleventh World Chess Champion. A chess prodigy, he won his first of a record eight U.S. Championships at the age of 14. In 1964, he won with an 11–0 score, the only perfect score in the history of the tournament
>Fischer made numerous antisemitic statements and denied the Holocaust; his antisemitism, professed since at least the 1960s, was a major theme in his public and private remarks

>>32215691

idc if she strays away a little bit from idol culture (collabing with males) I don't have any problem with it very much, but why does she insult idol culture? zatsudan is idol culture, donation reading is idol culture, providing fans the feeling of watching your growth from being bad at singing/dancing to singing on the top of the stage is idol culture, idol culture is the very basic idea of hololive. why is she still on hololive if she hates idol culture so much? it is literally one of the main sources of her income

>>32227428
socialism =/= communism
brainlet

>Mention jews
>Thread successfully derailed
Don't need to thank me, kronies.

>>32215691
>>32220806
i love this place. taking words right out of someones mouth and presenting them in a completely false manner to promote anger.

>>32227536
>why would being a mao zedong supporter socialist vegan stop them from being otaku

>why would otaku culture, a Japanese centric culture, be incompatible with a Chinese Communist worshiper
Pretty self-explanitory.

Anime, per se, is very incompatible with Communists wannabes, because Japanese is incompatible with Communists.

>>32227551
none of this is idol culture, it's just normal streamer shit that female streamers do, idol culture is giving incels power and control over the girls and making them entitled pieces of shit

>>32227551
>zatsudan is idol culture, donation reading is idol culture
lol

>>32227094
Alright fair enough. Cheers dude.

this thread is a retarded shitshow and i look forward to someone monetizing it on a tts youtube channel

>>32221745
If I recall, Fauna is one of the few who outright stated that she doesn’t intend to do StarsEN collabs, and Mumei has avoided even talking about them since their debut.

>>32227766
>equality for everybody
>except these groups

Ahh, the very definition of Orwellian.

'ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS'.

>>32220933
they say it because its the most derogatory and hurtful thing they can think to say on this spooky dooky place known for hyperbolics. These words are an extreme version of the logic they usually hold within their minds.

>>32226354
So you didn't watch the member stream then.

>>32228046
Mumei was part of a gartic phone collab that included the JP stars.
She recently said that she likes that Hololive is a big female only group though so I don’t think she’s too likely to collab again.

>>32215691
she's /here/

She really hates me...

>>32228046
Pretty sure only one that stated it outright is Kiara.
But Fauna is avoiding mentioning them since her "welcome to holopro family"

>>32227551
>zatsudan and donation reading are idol culture
>idols don't collab with males
Anon? Please do your idol research reps

>>32223658
its the path fans choose and the path used to be trumpeted by the company hololive. Now hololive sees it fit not to make the EN branch match the JP branch, which is the branch that got them popular enough to move to the english speaking market.

>>32215691
She wants that hero dick real bad however due to idoru culture, she can't get it. Not off-stream though 7u7

No matter what you may have read in this thread, do not let it distract you from the fact that Usada Pekora bought an actual living, breathing monkey.

>>32228891
>living, breathing
not anymore

>>32228891
Commoners really don't know what to do when they end up having so much money lol.

>>32228891
I can't blame her.
If I were rich I too would try to own a slave.

>>32216234
I don't want to help the schizo but all of that applies to idols too. Many idols can't sing for shit, some people think is cute because they gambaru! There are plenty of different kind of Idols, some are mehera, some can actually sing, some are eroi, some are even foreigners. The idol scene is far bigger than you imagine.

>>32216331
Yes, for chad cocks.

>>32216427
Kronii is sheer, unadultered, pure sex, and obsessed with sex herself. How could I not make it about Takeshi?

>>32217002
LEAVE MY TEMPUS BOYS ALONE YOU WHORES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

>>32228891
like a monkey with a tail, or did she pick up a Brazilian from the slums?

>>32215691
After Rushia am suprised Cover didnt teach their talents a thing or two about keeping their mouths shut.

>>32215691
Speedrunning her way to 3view or graduation

>>32229439
You don't even need to look at the bigger part of idol scene with smaller groups or underground idols. Even bigger idol groups (males and females included) like the 48 / 46 groups, H!P, or Johnny's have plenty of members who can't sing or dance for shit.