/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

BREAD BAKER IS NIJISHILL

>>32197047
i was riffing on some shitter trying to push the whole "kronii doesnt care about (You) its all about the money." i then said "kronii doesnt care about you or your money. she doesnt even know what to do with it she just eats them."
its taking their position and then taking it into a completely wildly different direction. sprinkle in a little
*clearly an attack post to shill their own vtuber of choice*
and voila. that was my joke.
lampooning baitposters is the real punchline

Remember to always love Kronii

BREAD BACKER IS NIJISHILL

KRONII LOVEEEE

I want Kronii to fart on me

Reminder.

Also I have confirmed that the biggest winner of this whole shit was Aliaga Ayin not Gabe. He wrote the cringiest comment that was closest to Unicorndom on the community post. Of course he's not an actual Unicorn but it was by far the worst, saying he was jealous and shit. Kronii stopped just a few comments short of reading his, she went WAY down the list, probably because all the CGDCTfags were ratioed by the tourists. Ailaga Ayin was like a page scroll away from the last comment she read.

>>32197366
well you failed and also, kronii cares a lot about money and I think it's bizarre that you people keep trying to paint her as some kind of saint with absolutely no self-interest whatsoever and she just takes copious amounts of superchat money because ?????

>>32197483
fuck off already

>>32197366
Ah I see. That's what I thought.

>>32197477
Wait wtf none of these apply to me

>>32197513

>>32197523
Superchats matter. They have improved her life dramatically. She would not be as happy if she was not getting as much money as she is.

>>32197523
you know that wont work. ignore it. let them flail their little baby arms around theyll tucker themselves out eventually

>>32197559
F-Freaky?

>>32197366
kronie your joke is fucking lame

Didn't Kronii say one of her favorite anime was Daily Lives of High School Boys? Does she know Nichibros is a nickname for that or is that only a 4chan thing? I saw people in the chat who thought she said Nichijou.

>>32197379
Not the bread backers!

>>32197550
behold
the real unicorn kronie
doesnt fit into any category

>>32197477
She read it, that's why she pulled up the par asocial book, she tried to help him, she even said
>"if it go as far as making you ruin you day, it's too far"
His 2nd sentence was
>this ruined my whole week

Like seriously, is it jealous poorfags trying to downplay the importance of monetary contributions or what? I don't understand how you guys get into this mindset.

>>32197641
oh shit yeah..

>>32197589
i know why do you think i needed to explain it. if it was good it wouldnt need one

>>32197550
check this instead

>>32197682
stop jobbing

>>32197477
>alignments purposefully off
Preemptively fucking with the /pol/tards. Good.

>>32197752
I don't go there, do they like everything to be neat and well presented?

so is the land before time 11PM est now

>>32197820
They just obsessed with left and right alignments, I.E Left bad, right good. Odds are one of them would have used your chat as bait.

>>32197641
This. It was obvious which comments she was reading. I recall some commenters firing back at the tourists saying not to vilify the members for voicing their opinions and she practically echoed those sentiments near word for word.

>>32197641
i think her book is kinda measured in the ways it approach parasocials.
the whole:
>parasocials can be bad
>let's enjoy what we have
i doubt it's just the classic "hur dur para bad" everybody parrot in most places.

kronies the latest IRyS hentai by moral is too much for my dick, will Kronii forgive me

>>32197893
no

People forget that even in fiction, Unicorns are rare as fuck. That's the whole point, they are only capturable by a virgin. Even Rushia, who probably had the biggest percentage of Unicorns ever, still probably had very few true Unicorns. Unicorns would have never picked up someone with Rushia's history, like that NND stream she did once. And they definitely wouldn't have followed her to Vshoujo like most have now. For a Unicorn you have to have like zero proof of ever interacting with a male.

>>32197881
Yes, the books said if you are in too deep your relationship will end too fast, you will get too hurt by something you will end up having to part ways, if you want to have it last longer, reel back the para to some moderate levels.

I learned my lesson.
t.actual Aliaga Ayin

>>32197860
I'm pretty sure it means to fuck with autists as in the text and graphics aren't perfectly aligned thus people with OCD will be bothered. It was pretty clearly thrown together in mspaint.

>unicorn
>horse
what about Pegasus? people never talk about the winged horse. he's cool as hell

>>32197641
Damn nice catch I didn't even notice that.

>>32197972
That's not the origin of the term. Originally the term "unicorn" referred to the idol, not the fans, because a boyfriend-free adult woman is said to be as rare as a unicorn. But of course the usage shifted so that the term could be used as an insult.

>>32197972
Lots of words completely lost their original meaning anyway, since they've been used and twisted all over the place.
Stuff like unicorn, GFE or even parasocial.

I'm honestly glad that she was willing to defend those voicing their concerns and kept pushing back against the sea of vitriol and shitflinging, not only in the community post, but even during the stream chat. I knew she had a good heart and this whole debacle further reinforced my views of her.

>>32198224
No I know, the Unicorn still only refers to the idol. But the fans that are like that are called Unicorns for short hand because a Unicorn will only appear before/be captured by a virgin. The term is emphasizing the rarity. It is the origin of the term.

>>32198253
Yeah it's nice that someone doesn't leap to conclusions. I wonder if she knows how Discord and Reddit like to accuse everyone who enjoys Gura, of being a pedophile.

>>32198253
This was so good by Kronii, she is lucky that she didn't read it off stream and didn't rely on chat to explain their feelings, live chat can't be used like that, for her philosophy takes she wants us to make, they need to be in long form well thought out comments.

>>32198253
I really love how she handled all of this and I feel guilty for making SHE HATES US posts last year now
kronii kakkoi!

>>32198253
my thoughts exactly
nice to have my loyalty to something rewarded for once
t. someone who has been betrayed by one too many causes. i dont mean vtubers i mean teams, groups, stuff like that.

Well thanks to the person who linked the unarchived stream, after watching it I have got to say she is a total sweetheart, gave a calm, non judgemental consideration to the admittedly selfish and unreasonable position of "don't collab with males because I find it unpleasant and don't want to see it".
It was especially nice how she shut down the direct callouts in the chat even with that one guy spamming stuff like "hound the incels out" for the entire vod it had an immediate effect on the rest of the chat which was remarkably understanding for such a contentious topic.

Watching her try to get it was admittedly frustrating, I still think the ideal scenario is where the chuuba actually intuitively understands male jealousy borne out of these kind of feelings and doesn't even need to address it in such a direct way because when the curtain is pulled back it sure feels pathetic to try to explain it, especially in a format like youtube chat. And her little excerpt from the book she picked is undoubtedly true and something I have always thought about in relation to kicking up a stink about this kind of thing in the first place, it's fundamentally destructive to any kind of relationship (such as it is between viewer and streamer) to sperg out and send condom money supas ect. It only reinforces my decision to just either not watch or peace out quietly if it gets too bad on the off chance I go through something like this with my oshi.

Outed myself as a tourist there, sorry for pirating members content but I genuinely think she was pretty great in that stream and despite her overall final position not being something I would necessarily want, it is very clear she cares a lot about her fans, regardless of how easy It would be to dunk on them she chose kindness instead.
Sorry for the mucho texto and I will member her in repentance for stealing members content.

>>32198386
>she is lucky that she didn't read it off stream
I mean if she had then maybe she wouldn't have been blindsided by it and end up banning all ships in a panic.

i know some person was posting frostpunk stuff as reaction images to what was going during this arc.
did they ever post this?
i think its suitable.

>>32198490
>Kronii refuses to change her policies in any way and yet everyone feels like they won
how does she do it

>>32198525
She's either a master politician or a retard with a max luck stat.

>>32198436
My philosophy major Oshi is too good man

>>32198599
I doubt she took any courses past introductory philosophy

>>32198436
Yes she does. Now fuck you for pirating that shit. Good that you are membering. Try to be an asset to the community and remember to be civil and well thought out should you post anything.

>>32198436
mucho texto but good texto.

>>32198436
hey the only tourists i personally dislike are those who have no real intention to understand whats going on. they only show up to stir up discord and then leave after the funs over. those i dislike.
people like you who genuinely want to understand and are willing to listen, those i approve of.
welcome aboard.

>>32198525
She has max luck.
>>32198599
She dropped out pretty early on it seems like.

>>32198671
you could say she has EX luck

>>32198710
Which is good because I've watched every stream of hers ever and I can say with confidence she has like -10 INT.

>>32198632
>>32198639
>>32198640
Thanks and I will, I was membered for a while around when she did the ryan gosling watchalong because I will never miss one of those but I will have to check out what I have missed in the meantime.

The hymen has torn. She's now, and will forever be, a whore.

>>32198599
she's just not a "cunt" she read long time fans voicing their concern and didn't see them as bad people just because they where worried about the direction her content could be heading.
and you just know that she had to felt bad for those who got berated, mine was a harmless question about the timing of the schedule and people were barking at me for it.

>>32198833
This is a Kronie trying to hard to act like a tourist. You probably saw my post earlier comparing it to vatniks on /k/ and are trying to do a "cauldron is closing" meme. We have enough real raiders, don't need fake ones even for giggles.

>>32197477
I think I'm somewhere between a CGDCTfag and a unicorn. I'm aware my love for Kronii can't go anywhere. And I won't cause harm to the one I love just because she doesn't reciprocate. But the thought of seeing Kronii with a male does make my heart ache somewhat. Thankfully, how she talked about the issue reassured me that she isn't shunning me or anything like that. So I will continue to love Kronii.

>>32198985
>the thought of seeing Kronii with a male does make my heart ache somewhat
more than the thought of her interacting with males in private because you told her you don't want to be a part of it?

We're not out of this yet by the way. Reddit is still fucking seething. An hour ago someone posted a imgur link of all the CGDCTfags post in the top thread currently talking about Kronii's shipping clip. Everyone immediately starts talking about how creepy they are and calling them names, you know, the shit Kronii specifically just said not to do in the members stream earlier? It was the same exact comments she read too. The imgur has close to 2000 views already. So either they didn't watch the members stream or they just don't care.

>>32198525
I think for me it worked because the thing I feared most was Kronii telling me to fuck off for feeling hurt about the male collab because I would have nowhere else to go.

Seems like she's still replying to people on that clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_v3T1DWnQU
In her own comment, very bottom of the reply chain.

>>32199335
they're seething on yt too

>>32199335
>redditors
>watching streams
roru
rumao
why concern yourself with the ramblings of the ignorant

>>32199556
>Amber
women moment

>>32199556
>kfp
of course

>>32199556
It IS double standards though i dont think money is the factor here. More like just trying to avoid drama

>>32198525
>knows that people who posts lenghty posts are providing a reason for their opinion and some know it's unreasonable, so she says they are valid
>dismisses short posts because they aren't saying anything
>but being valid doesn't mean she's going to change anything, only that those people shouldn't be attacked for their views
And so everyone is happy.

>>32199508
I wish she would stop seeking out bait from people outside her fanbase

>>32199335
>So either they didn't watch the members stream or they just don't care.
Probably a combination of both. Just ignore the fuckers. The more they moan and cry about this, the more they're outing themselves as the exact same people that Kronii denounced on stream.

why does she suddenly "know" about idol culture?

Who does she think she is know? Some kind of top tier entertainer that makes viewers fall for her content?

>>32199508
Kronii pls let it go...

>>32199508
>STILL fucking worrying about clip comments
Kronii go to sleep you stupid retard. Also the way you worded this fuels into the "toxic idol culture" narrative and doesn't really address the CGDCTfags that you learned about in the member streams.
>>32199556
Every person in this screenshot is a fucking gray

>>32199705
Yeah, most people in those comments don't actually watch her streams. Who gives a fuck what they think?

>>32199335
This fag sure is working overtime in the reddit comments, I wonder how much of fan he is...

>Who gives a fuck?
her ego, Twitter will give her all the validation she wants

>>32199677
I mean she has a fucking job and she needs to make money. It's exactly like when people bitch about "How come WNBA players don't get paid the same as NBA players?"

WNBA games don't sell fucking tickets.

Stupid fucking clock don't look at the comments section of a fucking clip

>>32199508
>her last reply was just 30 minutes ago
Kronii...

>>32199941
>clips are my only sources of content, I don't even watch streams lmao
I hate him and I want him to fucking die.

>global tourist chiming in because they think she's dunking on idol culture
you fucking retard it's about the shipping and she is also retarded, she literally just learned about CGDCT

>>32199508
WTF IS SHE DOING AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Kronii has an IRL boyfriend (not you) who got jealous of Altare.

KRONII WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL COMMENTING ON CLIP COMMENTS IN REPLY CHAINS SO FUCKING FAR BURIED DOWN THERE'S FUCKING CRUDE OIL. GO TO SLEEP.

>>32199941
God, I hate these tourist normalfags.

>>32199508
>UNFORTUNATELY there are double standarda because of that gosh darn evil Idol Culture
lmao

>>32199966
Holostars doesn't bug me, you know? It doesn't bother me.
I'm not afraid of it or anything like that, you know, for the simple fact that I know it's gonna fail, you know?
And I take comfort in that, I do.
I'm not rooting for it because… I know it doesn't like me.
Yeah, do you know why I think it's not going to survive, why it's not going to be successful anyway?
'Cause they still need Hololive's help to make it happen.
I don't understand it. I don't understand why Homobeggars just can't work with each other and make this shit happen.
They keep coming to us, like, "More Hololive fans need to care about this issue."
"Where are the Holos to stand up and say something…yak-yak-yak."
Why do I have to fuckin' say something?
This is your fuckin' problem.
Why are you always dragging us into this shit?
I saw a Homobeggar a couple months back, professional faggot right?
They go onto /r Hololive on one of these subreddits and then starts bitching, going like, "I don't understand, how come Holostars don't make as much as Hololive?
Right? And all of these Holofans had to sit there and act like they didn't know what the answer was. They had to sit there, like, dumbfounded. Like, "Oh, I don't know."
"Why is that?"
"That is a conundrum. I have no idea."
Literally, I'm sitting at home screaming at the computer, "'Cause you don't sell any fuckin' tickets!"
Nobody is going to Holostars concerts.
You're playing in a 20,000-seat arena, 1,500 people show up. That's not a good night. Shinove lost his fucking ass on that gig.
I'm not saying no professional male streamers... Pewdiepie, the guys who play Minecraft, you know?
But nobody's watching your fuckin' Homos.
And then you're gonna come and you're gonna get mad at fuckin' Holofans.
They keep doing that shit. Why are you yelling at us? It's not our fucking job.
It's not my fuckin' job to give a fuck about Holostars, okay? I have Hololive to pay attention to.
This is... it's your bullshit, right?
Dude, look at the Holostars.
Dude, nobody in Holostars got COVID.
Nobody.
They have been streaming in front of 300 to 400 people a night for a quarter of a century.
Not to mention it's a Hololive-subsidized branch.
We gave ya a fuckin' branch
None of ya showed up.
Where are all the Homobeggars?
That place should be packed with Homobeggars.
Emoji spamming, wearing merch, throwing supas, goin' fuckin' nuts, like the Holofans do in the upper deck with their big beer titties.
"Did she read my supachat? Am I doing it?"
Yeah.
You didn't.
None of you, none of you watched the fuckin streams.
None of you. You all, you failed them, not me.
Not Hololive. Homobeggars failed the Holostars.
Homobeggars, name your top five all-time Holostars of all time.
Come on. Let's hear it. Name five Holostars talents.
Name the Holostar gen in your fuckin' city.
You can't do it!
You don't give a fuck about them.
They stream night in and night out in front of nobody.
It's a fuckin' tragedy, right?
And then meanwhile, you look at Pewdiepie he's making billions.
You look at those Minecraft streams, they're making money hand over fist 'cause that's what Homobeggars are watchin'. The money listens.
You don't wanna watch this shit, you're watching this shit.
They just shoot it over there, drowning these fags in money and Lambos and shoes and cunny.
It's just raining.
It's raining money.
Yeah. So, the money listens.
You'd rather watch that shit, Minecrafters, a bunch of men just playing block game.
"Well, maybe that's why your llama left you."
"Maybe that's why your dog left.
That's why you can't have puppies, bitch!"
"That's why you lost your Elytra bitch!." Right?
That's the message you sent.
"We would rather watch that than see a bunch of men come together as a team and try to achieve a common goal."
"We would rather watch them actually fucking destroy each other."
Yeah.
No, no, no.
And then in the end, you come back and you fuckin' yell at Holofans.
And it's like, let me get this straight, I have to supachat your Homo,get my Holo to collab with your nobody, and I have to watch Homostreams for you??
Like, when are you gonna pick up your end of the couch?

lmao graduation in 3, 2, 1...

https://youtu.be/jn-0BVcjC_c
Bros, is she a Karen? This was very Karen like.

stop egosearching you dumb retard
i know you're here, and you've said enough
let it die

>>32200090
This. I literally never saw anybody ever shipping them ANYWHERE outside of a few cuckposters here (and 1 youtube comment).

>works for an idol company
>thinks idol culture is unfortunate
What are you doing!?

Kronii either you or one of your friends are /here/, you aren't going to make everyone happy, the solution you have is the best you can do and placating people outside of your fanbase will not help.

>>32200244
she was doing a bit, anon

>>32200321

>>32200244
its a joke

>>32200369
That doesn't go against idol culture, you tourist.

>>32200321
Re-read it you retard, she thinks the double standard is unfortunate.

She's being SO retarded about this...

She was doing so well with the members stream and then in a retarded move just shot herself in the foot again. It's like she completely forgot what she learned about CGDCTfags. By the way I'm still blaming Nerrev for this shit, if this fucking clip channel didn't exist it wouldn't happen.

>>32200289
yeah, and if you're still here Kronii and you're still looking for feedback, you should create an avenue for that that your members can use instead of confronting randos in the comment sections of clips

>>32200244
The shipping shit is making her pissed of at mundane things now.

how are you guys holding up

>>32200426
And if she thinks that she shouldn't go work for an idol company where such a double standard is the norm.
What was she thinking? How is it a bad think that shipping idol girls with men is frowned upon?

>>32199508
what is she doing....what the fuck is she doing....why she's not asleep?

>>32200403
There are no idol in Hololive. Here's what a true idol looks like.

>>32200532
you can work for an institution and not agree with everything that institution does, anon

That's why you either tell the Homobeggars to fuck off and say you don't do homo collabs anymore, or you tell the unicorns to fuck off and collab with whoever whenever
literally no middle ground possible
It's sad that the culture war arrived at VTubing but you have to choose a side

>>32200551
That's not Sora.

>>32200551
I HATE IDOL CULTURE!

>>32200551
that ain't my idol...

>>32200575
Sure, if you want to be a retarded hypocrite. Complaining about idol culture in an idol company is like complaining about violence in the army.

>>32199941
Reminder these are the people in these threads trying to gaslight you that YOU'RE the weirdo if you don't like seeing your oshi with a man. They don't even watch streams. They're just virtue signallers who want to own the incels.

>>32200673
>Sure, if you want to be a retarded hypocrite.
More like sure, if you don't want to starve while looking for an employer that agrees with all of your ideals exactly

lmao vshojo probably already shot her an email asking what she wants her avatar to look like loooooool

>>32200575
Really? Even when you actively benefit from the very thing you disagree with?

It is pretty unfortunate that shipping was not even the issue that people were getting upset about but Kronii either thought it was or kind of used it to address the actual issue in an oblique manner and set off a giant swathe of unrelated drama.

She really should not be trying to address the validity of hetero-same sex ships in a fucking clip channel comment thread - remember the kind of person who goes to those places.
>>32199941

>>32200752
Yeah, I'm sure she's close to starving if she were to quit working for Hololive.

>>32200758
We love Rushia here, fuck off

>>32199787
>Just ignore the fuckers
hope Kronii does the same desu

>>32200805
Where in capitalist society do you think she's gonna work where the culture is going to be an exact fit for her bleeding heart ideals? Wal-mart?

>>32200758
With how Coco is crashing and burning, good luck with them poaching any other talent.
Also Kronii would hate stuck up cunts like Vei and Nyanners.

>>32199508
>UNFORTUNATELY idol culture is a thing
wow... She finally showed her true color, she really does hate hololive
guess this is the last straw

>>32199508
For fucks sake you moron, this is why management told you to ignore it, because you always end up needing more and more posts to explain youself.
Now this one will lead to a "when I was talking about idol culture I was saying how some people get heated about different-sex pairings, not how idol culture was evil", which will just spiral into her saying something stupid that will need further clarification.
You gotta know when to stop.

Please respect her boundaries. What happen's between kronii and her sex friends is none of your business.

>>32200879
We're not talking about some small issue that she doesn't agree with, anon. We're talking about the very thing that makes Hololive what it is. It's an idol company. So yes, Wal-mart would probably fit her better, they don't give a shit about double standards when it comes to shipping.

Poor Kronii. She just wants to be understood. Unfortunately she is fucking terrible with words.

>>32200959
It is if it happens on stream. I've not once tried to dictate what she does on her private time

should have killed nerev long ago

>>32200965
Kronii doesn't disagree with idol culture on the whole, she disagrees with the segregation genders, which, may I remind you, Hololive doesn't even have an official policy promoting, and has plenty of mixed gender collabs.

>>32199941
>I don't even watch streams
Roru
Rumao

If they start shitting on idol culture they will shit on Gura and practically the whole JP branch and trust me you don't want JP management involved in this...

>>32200289
SHE IS NOT HERE

>>32201032
Clippers are, as always, at fault for everything bad to ever happen in Hololive
Cover will kill clipper channels if they pull drama shit or misconstrue talent's words for clicks, as an FYI

>>32200551
my oshi

Nerrev if more shit comes from this, I am blaming you directly. You and your miserable fucking channel are the worst thing that happened to Kronii since Gabe. Honestly you should stop making clipos or at least disable all comments so my stupid fucking oshi doesn't get triggered and shoot herself in the foot every time she's unable to resist clicking on one of your shitty low effort vomits.

Another member stream this week?

Okay bros, if Kronii is gender fluid, does that mean I'm gay if she decided that she was a man while I ate her out? Cuz, I guess that situation I'm sucking her "dick"?

Congrats Kronii, we were doing so well and it seemed like the situation was over but you just threw a fucking gallon of gasoline onto it.

You have to be a special kind of retard to be watching hololive while hating "le idol culture"

>>32201147
Yes there's the watchalong
I don't think she'll do another damage control stream

>>32199335
>Reddit is still fucking seething. An hour ago someone posted a imgur link of all the CGDCTfags post in the top thread currently talking about Kronii's shipping clip
Now that's devilish, I wouldn't be surprised if the same fag who made that post also made that thread here, probably discordniggers.
You know what? I approve it, I want to see how far it goes.

>>32201167
Unfortunately the western internet exists, doesn't understand what it even means, and now made Kronii have a misunderstanding about it from their retarded misuse of the term

Why is she shitting on idol culture? Does she want anti?

>>32201156
It's the Kronii special baby!

>>32201167
Kobo does that th and she's winning

>>32199508
/infinty/, you caused this mess
FUCKING FIX IT NOW

>>32201061
>Hololive doesn't even have an official policy promoting
What? Holostars and Hololive are very much segregated for a reason.

>>32201237
She never should have even mentioned idol culture. She has no idea what it is and neither do most people. All she's done is invite people to shit on how hololive does things

>>32201167
They aren't really watching Hololive.
>>32201156
She's so fucking stupid. Honestly the best thing would be to ratio that comment so nobody sees it but I'm sure it's already too late and some faggot has posted it to Reddit. Or maybe Nerrev could delete it. Or better yet his whole fucking channel.

>>32201267
And they're free to collab with each other whenever they want. It's the talents that self-segregate.

I hate Gabe so much right now

>>32201264
Does nerrev count as /∞/?

Stay strong

let's hope no one translates this to Japanese, the Japanese Hololive fans = Idol Fans would get JP management involved, that would be the worst outcome because you do NOT want them breathing down your neck

>>32201061
>she disagrees with the segregation genders
she never said that

>>32201389
This but kronii

>>32201393
No he's just a nigger.

She should have asked her senpais or gen mates how to handle this

>>32201142
The fucker is making things worse with his fucking clips by baiting retards who don't know shit about the situation.

>>32201417
she collabed with holostars this week, anon

Why is your oshi so fucking dumb?

Holy fuck. Is this shipping shit going to permanently damage this fanbase?

>>32201398
dude she's so retarded...

>>32201427
why not both?

>>32201357
>pls censor!
Okay, you don't have to damage control for Kronii here. She has made clear that she doesn't want harassment from unicorns and stated "idol culture" as the issue

>>32201471
she has the blood of an internet autist running through her veins, like us

>>32201433
I feel like she did, and Mori was the only one currently available...

>>32201387
it was clear that holostars CAN'T ask any hololive member for a collab, unless it's the holo girls herself who asked for it

>>32199508
>Yes there's a double standard
>UNFORTUNATELY, it's because idol culture is a thing
Oh god, Kronii WHY??

>>32201471
Because she has good luck so when she manages to succeed she doesn't learn anything. Failure is a great teacher.

>>32201433
This is just because she didn't go to bed and decided to look at clips again after saying she's trying to not
So the solution is to kill Nerrev, clearly

>>32201515
Even Mori wouldn't be dumb enough to encourage her to do something as retareded as this.
This is 10000% on Kronii.

>>32201455
I told you fucks he was gonna double down after he got blamed by Kronii. I fucking told you! Kronii should've not said shit because she seems incapable of understanding that people were mad at the collab for having males and not whatever the fuck this is at this point now.

>>32201516
If it's so clear, where's the official source of that claim? Because I hate to break it to you, but Tempus and Hololive EN share a discord server.

>>32201515
thanks i hate it

>>32201562
I've been saying that except for all clipniggers who don't translate for fucking years. And everyone told me I was overreacting.

>>32201581
>double down
on what, he didn't post anything new, this is all on kronii, it's still the same comment as his last clip

>>32201481
>Shipping shit
It was never about shipping. We don't want male collabs period. Trying to dodge the issue by talking about "shipping" is making the situation worse. She needs to make a stand and say she will not alienate her gachis.

>>32201591
Straight from StarsJP and Tempus on many repeated separate occasions. And Altare in his streams have wrangled his chat several times telling them to stop begging for collabs.

>collab drama is done, over, settled
>new drama over shipping (?) based on her initial misinterpretation is garnering attention
>she's still responding to it on a clip channel of all places
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. How the fuck did this snowball into a whole different issue is beyond me.

>>32201591
Where is the proof for THAT claim?

>>32199508
It honestly sounds like she's more bothered by the shipping done by shitposters anyway than anything else.

>>32201655
it's not a new drama, it's just a variant on the same drama

>>32201659
It's how Kronii and Vesper got talking to each other. Kronii saw that Vesper was having difficulty with a tech issue, and offered to help.

Kronii is going to enter into deep depression over this

>Barely streams
>Collabs with males
>Hates idol culture
Wow all that I ever wanted in an oshi. Subbed and membered!

And now its in the catalogue. Jesus Christ, I was gonna suggest nuking this thread and not talking about it but too late for that now. Honestly if she graduates for this, I won't even be sad, just angry.

what does blue guy think about all of this?

>>32201655
Blame Gabe for enabling the schizos to come out of the wood work. And you know... the insecure ones.

>>32201483
She just needs to shut up and move on. It's what moom did with dan dan

>>32199508
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
but the money is good though

Why did she have to mention that idol culture bit? Actually, why is she commenting on a fucking clipper channel at all? Just move on the situation was defused

>>32201694
Same difference but the point stands. Her initial misinterpretation of the drama has basically opened a whole different can of worms.

Is nerrev here? Please delete kronii's comment cause it might cause more harm to kronii herself. Somebody should dm t-chan to tell kronii to delete it too.

She literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. This fucking retard.

>>32201720
He doesn't, he doesn't care because it doesn't affect him. He's played minecraft for 12 hours and then went to bed.

>>32201699
She kinda deserves. Not for the collab but for what she's doing now

>>32201717
>Honestly if she graduates for this.
For what? what the fuck are you talking about anon.

>>32201720
He's actually having a hard time with the hate. In his recent minecraft endurance stream, he mentioned that he doesn't do well with hate. So, I guess that's what blueman thinks. Anti's live in his head cause he's brand new.

>>32197282
is this going to get worse bros???

>>32201720
Funny enough, in his short stay in Hololive, he's the only one in EN so far to legitimately shit on chat when they go the direction he's not comfortable in.
He's going to be 100% fine.

>>32197552
MY FUCKING DICK
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This is so hot
Imagine her quadrupling her body weight just for your pleasure. Destroying herself with no chance of returning to her old self just to get you off.

>>32201717
>graduates for this,
you're batshit insane

>>32201829
now that she has pretty much said "idol culture bad", yes

>>32200578
There could have been a middle ground. Just say before the collab that you were invited by Calli and didn't want to be rude to the guys but it won't be a regular thing. The mistake was trying to sneak it though and then acting suprised

>>32201720
She should unironically learn from him

>>32201918
OMG SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

>>32201918
kek

>>32201918
kek good one

>>32201918
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>32201918
>@moricallope

>>32201918
Forgot to change the dates fag.

>>32201918
I really don't want to have to find a new oshi again...

>>32201918
Mori get the fuck outta here.

>>32202031
>veins
gross

>>32202065
U gay?

>>32200918
That's fine, not correct but it does the job she is still in the right.

>>32202065
Your meat is weak and your spirit is broken.

>>32201481
The worst part is that the issue isn't even the shipping in the first place. Literally no one does that in the entirety of Hololive (or even idols in general) except shitposters or antis with too much money commissioning artists.
People simply aren't interested in collabs with Stars, that's it.
But she somehow turned this into a completely different issue and somehow managed to include idol culture in it.

>>32201832
>he mentioned that he doesn't do well with hate
Probably too much to go through the 11 hours stream, but you got a timestamp?

>>32201918
>>32201990
>>32202031
You all joke, but Mori and Kronii will inevitably get a lot closer from this because their views align and Mori will help Kronii deal with "the haters". Mori will become a mentor/ best friend with Kronii after this and you can expect MANY collabs. Enjoy.

Nerrev just fucking nuke and disable the comments my god

i'm starting to believe that kronii has a crush on somebody for real
yes, that's me

>>32202156
she really is an idiot savant after all

well with all that shit is heading you can be certain she'll never want to deal with male collab ever again

>Catalog
Looks like you guys attracted the attention of the anti discord that has been attacking Mikeneko for the past couple of months. I wish you luck they're pure AIDS and will samefag relentlessly to try and drum this up into a big yab

>>32202252
more like males certainly will try to avoid her at all costs

>>32202252
I just don't understand it, though. She could have said nothing and 99% of people would have forgotten it in a week

This thread turned into an anti Kronii thread real quick I fucking knew it ahahahahaahaahaahha. This is so funny, gonna keep ljrking herr

>>32202174
That wasn't a joke retardchama, that anon forgot to edit out mori's handle.
I'm waiting for her to become Rushia 2.0, it would be much funnier than having another pink woman

>>32201655
maybe she contacted mori for advice and she told her to clarify..

I thought Nerrev is a real fan. Why would he shoot his oshi in the tits with this?

>>32202252
Yeah, she just invoked the "muh idol culture" hololive antis from twitter, this is going to get much worse

>>32202252
She shouldn't have in the first place! Mori should have warned her! it's a biggest possible drama magnet

Why is she so dumb, bros?

>>32202156
In a way it is, and in a way it isn't
It's why "business yuri" works so well, keeps a firm reminder that you don't have to worry about men
Until you have to start worrying about women because Hololive turned them prison gay

>>32202252
She could go down the Bae and Mori route

On the internet, the one wrong word can fuck you up.
Sadly Kronii is terrible with words. The comment literally reads like she's bowing to the will of rabid incels.

>>32202307
yeah they've been going at it since the collab but they don't realize how batshit insane >we are

>>32202365
She is trying, she will get there.

>>32202309
She's still looking at clip channels and comments even though she was trying not to
So at this point the clip channels have to fucking go if she won't stop looking

>>32202252
Hope all this headache was worth it to play with some faggots who are basically strangers

>>32202252
This will be at the cost of her ditching intimate streams and spaces with us. She will feel scared of leading us on again and avoid it at all costs.

>>32202316
I know... that's... the joke

>>32202170
It wasn't during the endurance but he immediately shut down the "is your sister single?" he mentioned his sister.
He also constantly says shit that can is pretty yab even for a holo talent. Hence the "hiding the toxicity" and "he's going to say the n-word" meme.
He also immediately banned the word ame, amelia, and other variations in chat after some containment breaking faggot condom sc'd him.

kronii
何故

She is parroting shit she doesn't understand at all and is learning on the fly since that fucking collab, how didn't management told them how to react to that kind of shit....

>>32199508
>idol culture is a thing
>unfortunately
well, i guess that's it

What is going on? I slept through the sc reading,she said something in the stream to get us back to this situation?

Cronies what is wrong with your oshi she is going to self destruct if she continues to do this

>>32202252
unicorn delusion

>>32202434
She wont, last strem and members proved it, her base is already settled and she made her opinion clear.

Management is probably going to tell her the moment they wake up to drop it and never talk about it again or she's getting silently suspended.
>>32202471
No, the SC reading went fine, but then she couldn't sleep and decided to read the comments of clips and posted a really retarded comment

God, it feels so comfy to take a break.

>>32202444
I fucked up, sorry. >>32202170 meant to >>32201811

The worst thing about all of this is nothing bad actually happened. She just played a game with two males and two females and had fun. She laughed no harder than she has done before and the moment was legit funny. The Tempus guys did nothing wrong either. It's such a shame people have lost sight of the reality of the situation.

>>32202467
They told her she didn't have to say anything but she ignores them. EN management is awful if you haven't realized. Omega is the worst tard wrangler ever

scroll up you lazyronies
goddammit kronii it was going so well too

>>32202252
It'll be the reverse. The homos will avoid her because they will feel like this is their fault.

>>32197282
everything will go to shit on twitter, reddit and YouTube comments, faggots will invade this thread like yesterday and the day before that

is there any hope left now that she literally opened a new can of worms?

>>32202509
>unicorn
retard Kronii doesn't handle being put on the spot like this, she will try to avoid this kind of trouble in the future

For a glorious brief few hours, we were in the best timeline. CGDCTfags had won and Kronii was understanding and loving.

Then she went and did this. Now all the raiders have ammo that Kronii really is being held hostage and all the ACTUAL Unicorns are going to be like HOW DARE YOU SHIT ON HOLOLIVE'S IDOL CULTURE.

Nerrev kill yourself. This is your fault.

>>32201918
This is the difference between and idiot(mori) and a menhera(kronii)

>>32202444
He will not give in to hate, just try it, he will get all views and engagements, even superchats.

is your oshi ogey

>>32202534
Management will never suspend someone over this, it would look incredibly bad and enable anti-idol culture flags to make it a case of "management suppressing her"

the ip count is rapidly rising...

If she could just edit that comment and remove the "unfortunately because idol culture is a thing"
It still gets the point across and does not give antis yet another thing to latch onto to stir shit with, I know the damage is already done here but I honestly hope either she removes that part asap to avoid any blowback from the JP side or just a general talking to from management for going off in a fucking clip comment section.
Don't you just love clippers?

>>32202643
>silently

>>32202632
rrat
https://streamable.com/qiicrx

>>32202522
She made her opinion clear in an unarchived members stream that not everybody saw. And now she is making her opinion very unclear in a fucking CLIPNIGGER COMMENT that everyone will see. The stream was over an hour. That comment takes a minute to read.

>>32202674
prepare for unicorn and homobeggar tourists

>>32202562
unicorns are cancer, yes

She tried to defend you grays and this is what you do to her, you ungrateful cunts.

>>32202674
Clearly we need to start cumming on them

>>32202721
You know dramafags already have this in their screenshot folder, right?

>>32202632
she's retarded and doesn't understand much about hololive, doing that first collab pull her through stuff she didn't expected and she doesn't know how to deal with any of it...

Damn she really is having spaghetti spilling meltdown today isn't she?

Kronies, why is your oshi like this?

>>32202562
It's kinda kronii's fault for even addressing it in the first place, she has so many fans that tell her they like her and she goes tunneling on the few unicorns she has. Its just women syndrome kek.

>>32202728
The person he caught was Bae btw

>>32202643
Cover is uncancellable by twitter. They are entirely self sufficient and mostly rely on JP sponsors and companies. Even if literally ALL other chuubas blacklistes them it would barely make a dent

things still crazy or should I come back another time?

I miss old /infinity/...

Management is fucking stupid. Why the fuck do they let the talents to reply to random clip using their holo account? Fucking dumbass of a management.

So management was unironically right about just ignoring the backlash instead of addressing it?

I can't believe that I have to educate people about CGDCTfags on the fucking internet of all places. Giving normalfags easier access was a mistake.

>>32202770
Cum on me all you want. It can't undo the load that Kronii already dumped on all her fellow holomems metaphorically of course

>>32202562
Kinda on her too for setting boundaries way too late after cultivating a schizo den of a fanbase.

>>32202721
It's just going to make everything even worse, what is done is done anyway.
She just needs to STOP.

I like Kronii and I think this shit is hilarious. I'm trying to screencap as many tweets like this as I can.

>>32202608
You got an unedited version of this chart it's pretty funny and accurate

>>32202721
>jp side
I really hope not because the antis from the jp side could use this against her.

Hello en management, time to fucking step in.

No... the drama should have been over by now...

>>32202798
her stupidity gets her in and out of trouble

Just stand back and let the Homobeggar harass her so she doesn't want to associate with them anymore

>>32202853
No she addressed it fine in the members unarchived. Then she undid it by posting this. The irony is she just wants to explain herself fully and now she's going to have to explain even more because she tried to explain herself and fucked up.

Kronii needs to relax with some medication

>>32202674
/mans/ here, we are fucking tired of your fucking schizos coming in and blaming us for your stupid clock woman's inability to keep her mouth shut.
Your schizo started this, so now fucking fix it or deal with it. We don't fucking care. Grow the fuck up.

>>32202877
what? they invited her for a dumb collab that would only get drama.

>>32202841
I miss when /∞/ did game nights.

>>32202993
>breaking the tenets
Begone, catalogfag, you are no son of /MANS/

>>32202993
Based

>>32202772
I don't care about the catalogfags they are obviously going to run with this, I am more talking about rectifying what her official youtube channel is commenting. If cover gives a shit about this it will be due to her comment as it is on youtube not whatever screenshot people here bandy around.

>>32202921
see
>>32197693

>>32202993
Why are you even worried, we're protected by the Fujos and yumejos posting their fics and fanart.

>>32203011
And she chose to go nuclear instead of letting it quietly pass by

>>32202853
No, not addressing anything is also bad. What should've been done is to put a community post and be done with it. None of this circus of replying to a clipper video.

>>32197366
Of course she cares about money. She doesnt do this chuuba shit for free anon - also it will likely to count towards her performance index

>>32202562
She collabed with males. Nobody wanted that.

>>32202993
>""""""""""/mans/""""""""""
ok

>>32202993
>what's a falseflag?
welcome to 4chan retard. some niggers are falseflagging /mans/ as well
now go back

>>32203107
I did

>>32202993
You caused all of this, why didn't you stay in your lanes? the fans were here first you just came, courtesy says that you back off

>>32202534
Nerrev needs to hide the comments from that video before things get worse then

>>32202979
Not only did she undone it she actually managed to make it quite a bit worse. The only saving grace is comments on some clip channel are not as visible as tweets but people are spreading it around already

>>32199508
I think the issue was worth addressing like she did in her members stream earlier. This post was unnecessary, though.

>>32203077
That idol culture comment could be suspension-worthy if the jp side gets offended.

>>32202993
>your fucking schizos
we arent responsible for catalogniggers, sis

>>32203138
Mori didn't stay in her lane retardchama...

>>32202993
>your fucking schizos
catalogniggers aren't us you faggot

>>32203153
Pretty sure Nerrev only cares about the clicks, and now it'll do numbers

>>32203179
retard

>Nerrev LIKED the comment
YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER WHY WOULD YOU BRING EVEN MORE ATTENTION TO IT.

>>32203153
It's all over reddit already

>>32202993
go back tourist

>>32203184
>>32203181
When did Gabe become a catalognigger?
Or are you guys just pretending now he didn't do what he did?

>>32203212
holy shit

EMERGENCY TIT DISCUSSION

TALK ABOUT KRONII'S BREASTS

>>32203182
They could have stopped mori, the JP stars stop Ollie all the time. I guess they are too new and don't know how this works yet.

>>32203212
Some men just want to watch the world burn, Master Wayne.

>>32201918
>Mori 2.0

>>32203243
i don't know if this faggot is in /man/ i don't go there

>>32203212
liking it doesn't feature it more because it's on the reply chain of her previous, pinned comment

G'Morning. I see Kronii is still going. Just tell what is in your mind Kronii, that you find collabs with man restriction to be stupid, we all know you think that.

Anyway, Kronii love!
SpaceTime forever!
This timeloop hate!

>implying Kronies here leave infinity
Fuck off catalogfags.

>>32203212
>bring attention to a comment with both "double standards" and "idol culture" in the same sentence
It's over. She has officially tarnished her reputation with the idol community.

>>32203308
not even close

>>32203212
Is Nerrev even a member? What the fuck is he doing? He's literally making this shit worse. Fucking disable the comments already you fucking retard.

I just wanted to ask something, although this is a memba leak so I'll just spoiler it.

did she really stream 13 hours ago? referring to that feel cute(fused) post. I was away, goddamn boss won't hire new employees so i hafta take a lot of shifts.

>>32203308
she needs 3 more yabs to be one

>>32203212
At this point his shit just needs to be shown to the Cover staff handling clippers so they can yeet it into oblivion for his bullshit

>>32203274
are brown tits fine too?

You know what, maybe we're just blowing this out of proportion. Maybe things aren't that bad. The Redditfaggots already think idol culture is toxic. Kronii is retarded and always has been. Everyone already made up their mind, the only person who hadn't was Kronii and then she did that on the unarchived members. She learned about CGDCTfags and accepted them. I'm going to sleep, hopefully this will blow over. The only bad thing is the threads will be shit again, the IP count is already rising. But Kronii always comes out on top somehow. Stupid fucking clock.

>>32203319
>playing dumb about Gabe the Kroniinigger that started this mess with his fucking thesis
Pathetic

>>32203274
If it wasnt for idol culture i could have fondled those

It always comes back to that one Hololive woman...

>>32203361
dude he's been a member for a year ffs...

>>32203384
yep,

>>32203361
>>32203212
He's currently in free chat, yell at him there.

>>32203384
Yes, it was unarchived

>>32203395
I was thinking like 8 with 1 of them being potentially getting her genmate raped

Its all going well then suddenly she can't sleep lol.

Though this probably gonna make collab more rarer now but she gonna entice the tourist again since they gonna hope they would change her stance.

>>32203404
Yes brown tits are fine too

>>32203356
Closer than she's ever been

>>32203361
At this point, he is clearly an Anti doing his best to kill Kronii. This has more evidence than Putin being a CIA asset destroying Russia from the inside.

>>32203212
>Member
>/infinity/poster
>sees shit show
Put 2 and 2 together? Or does it need to spelled out to you?

>>32203404
I miss you brown sugar beauty…

It's gonna be allright

>>32197282
can't imagine how any of you guys can be ok with what she said in the member stream. fuck I hope not all chuubas are like her

>>32203219
ffs why can they just accept a compromise?they get their homo collab and her own channel is homo free

>>32202993
i like both tempus and kroni but yes this one is on kroni

>>32203477
Mori is gonna come in to save her and groomer her into the "own the haters" team

>>32203395
>male collab
>responding to retarded SCs and chatters
>retarded twitter posts
>(New) posting retarded youtube comments TWICE
>ignoring management
I'm afraid she has done more than that friend

Have fun replying to yourselves fags. I'm going to sumeru

Y'know if this level of shitflinging from homobeggars actually causes her to just straight up stop Homo collabs - just to avoid all the drama - it'd be nice.

>>32203482

>>32203504
I mean of course it's going to be alright, tourists just get bored and move on to the new shiny thing anyway
So give it a day or two until another company has a "yab"

>>32203504
you don't understand anon
kronii is going to get fired because she said something vaguely negative about idol culture

>>32203409
Wait, this could very well work in our favor in some way. If tourists and redditors throw a tantrum over her comments, then they're the ones who end up looking bad vs the Kronies. Am I crazy or am I crazy???

What if we are in a time loop because Kronii finally got ice cream?

32202993
>/mans/ here
>not following the commandments
i bet you dont even know what those are
begone false flagger

>>32203600
The CGDCT faction wins in the end because the homobeggers overextended instead of being happy they killed the unicorns.

>>32203284
>rejecting a senpai's offer to collab
the most disrespectful thing you can do. Tempus was in a lose lose situation from the start.
>but then I don't have to
No nigger, your feelings aren't part of their job description. Continue on with bullying a mentally ill retard woman behind a computer screen and punishing her for something stupid.

>>32203450
>>32203472
FUCK. oh well, i'll try to watch the vod if I can find it... later. On my day off...

>>32203564
KRONI IS THE VICTIM IN ALL OF THIS
she is harassed by both sides and they wont be satisfied until she cuts into her own flesh, She should just have never accepted and Mori should know better

>>32203600

They already did that by spamming hate message to Gabe comment last time this probably the last straw she gonna really avoid collab.

>>32202979
She didn't address it fine because she tried to fence-sit too hard. She should have either outright stated that she wasn't collabing with dudes anymore OR that she was going to keep doing it and gachis should fuck off. Even the Reddit beggars have accepted that certain girls will never ever collab with the homos, if Kronii had just come out and said that it would have been the end of the discussion. But she wanted to keep being "one of the good ones" who don't actively avoid the homos which just opened the door to homobeggars who are disappointed that she's still trying to meet the other side halfway.

>>32199508
LEARN WHEN TO STOP WOMAN JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, YOUR LAST RESPONSE WAS PERFECT TOO
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Even the redditors think she should shut up already lol. If it is on reddit, t-chan might notice it. Come on t-chan pls contact en manager asap.

>>32203717
Ganbare anon...

Is this going to be the start of depression arc 2.0?

>comments are turned off
thank christ.
too little too late but at least hes doing something

>>32203629
She can backtrack if she needs to, her actions are in favor of Idol culture anyways.

>>32203730
Do your english reps, she stated her position clearly.

>>32203728
Her membership fucking bullied and gaslit her even further than any fucking tourist or beggar has done since the collab. She is a victim but she was told to ignore it and she naaaah I'll try to reason with schizos. Self inflicted gunshot victim hood deserves no pity.

Messaged Nerrev to disable comments hopefully he saw it.

>>32203857
>Her membership fucking bullied and gaslit her
how

>>32203728
Just because she's the victim of this doesn't mean she should throw away the basics of pr, you nigger.
She's making it worse for herself for not shutting up. Unless she wants to be the next Rushia by being a dumbass.

>>32203857
sure discordnigger

Nerrev, you absolute fucking retard, stop making clips of shit like this.

>>32203694
are they /Mans/ or not, Mori shouldn't guide their careers, its a bad look on them.

>>32203897
Question isn't if he saw it, it's if he cares

>>32203897
Oh fuck well there you go >>32203836

>>32203958
Alright, now we all pretend this didn't happen

>>32203820
I hope for another 'shoot everything' stream. Kronii's going to war. She just need to backtrack and say 'fuck all of you, I'll do as I please, if I want to collab with Stars I'll do it, if not I won't, you won't define what I stream.' And then end the topic, ignoring whatever comments come next.

>>32203897
fuckin finally

All is good, it's disabled, now she just need to do a tweet praising idol culture again and it's over.

>>32199508
They really have a way with words, don't they?

>>32203728
You need to understand both sides if you want to remain impartial.
And from an impartial point of view, she is throwing fuel to the fire.

Good, now t-chan only needs to delete that reddit thread.

>>32204006
Now hopefully dramatubers weren't awake yet to witness this or they'll milk it to oblivion.

>1st oshi was Coco
>2nd was Sana
>3rd is currently Kronii
I swear to fucking god if this shit convinces Kronii to graduate I am fucking ending myself. I can't handle thinking about it.

>>32204018
>Bow to the pressure of the holobeggers
Kronii doesn't bow to the demands of terrorists.

>>32204112
Too little too late, the screencap is circulating.
Thanks guys, I hate all of you.

>>32204018
The best ending is "Kronii does what she wants and won't cave to harassment, but she also disapproves of bullying unicorns so cut that shit out"

>>32204018
Yes I'm sure tripling down will solve all of this

>>32204118
save us all the time, why wait?