/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32199741
Kronii please just stop, adding more fuel to the fire when you could just ignore it.

>>32199741
How is this shit even going? it got old the same day

All she had to do was shut the fuck up.

my god woman just please shut up you're making it worse

>>32199850
She's a menhera. Did she actually had any previous work experience in her life?

Second EN graduation imminent
Fucking dumbass

>>32199741
She's even stupider than Calli. She deserves it at this point.

Yes, ignore your manager’s advice Kronii, let’s see where that gets you

>>32199741
Nope.

The need to be right is very strong in women, or so it seems.

>>32199741
No kronii what you did was to enable incel unicorn to continue to dictate the pace of your content because you're a dumb fuck who probably think unicorn are the shipper base. Dumb fucking retard i defended you against the unicucks and dumbass shippers but i simply don't have any more fucks to give.

It just keeps going

>>32199741
>a reply that'll probably get burried
Was there another post earlier? Is tgat why the board was so fast yesterday, Kronii fucked up?

>>32199741
Women are so smart it's unbelievabl.

She literally just needs to stfu. When she addressed it she should have been straight forward instead of being vague af and now shes just adding fuel to the fire. All this for a fucking nothingburger

>>32199741
Just shut up already! She's just making it worse.

>>32199741
You made the first mistake by tweeting about it and responding to your chat, which got clipped. Okay, understandable. Ignore and move on... BUT NOOO, you make a statement about it, AGAIN, fanning the flames. You're even dumber than Mori, Ame, and Bae, clock-woman

>>32199934
Retards like you should be tossed off a cliff for the betterment of mankind.
>Talent coughs on stream
>OMG GRADUATION IMMINENT SHE HAS THE BLACK PLAGUE!
Fucking imbeciles.

>>32199741
HoloEN has no managers, no one taught these girls anything when they joined.

If these cunts get my boys in trouble, I'm going to RIOT.
Calli should never have gotten Kronii into this mess. PINK WOMAN BAD.

>>32199741
OH NO NO NO KRONIES DIDN'T YOU SUPPOSEDLY WIN?

Ah yes, the Calliope way, instead of ignoring the vocal minority lets address the issue in public so it gets blown up more than necessary

Anon... the yab is near
And so we face the cuckold sermon
Anon, I'll say it clear
Abscond my badge, oshi desertion

I've simped, simp life that's full
I avoided each and every cuck way
And more, much more than this, still caught in cuck way

Chuubas, I've had a few
But then again, too few for option
I did what I had to do
Gachi it through without contrition
I paid each super chat
Each donation along the simpway
And more, much more than this, still caught in cuck way

Yes, there were times, cuckposters knew
When I hint off signs of insecure
They bait it all, cuckspam was loud
Ogey it up and Rrat it out
Deflect it all, filters befall, and hid the cuck way

I've 'slinged, I've simped and 'corned
I've had my fill, my share of cooming
And now, as jizz subside
I find it all so absolving
To think I did all that
And may I say, not in a cuck way
Oh no, Oh not like this, Just did the cuck way

For what is a simp, what has he cucked?
If not himself, then he still is fucked
To cucked by girls he truly feels
And not the whores who rob your meals
The archive shows
I gachi hoes
And did the cuck way

Yes, it's my... cuck way

>>32199741
Isreal? What video is this on

>>32199741
There's no way this is real.

>>32200028
Shes an unicorn enabler. She fucking deserves it at this point.

>>32200016
Women can't distinguish right from wrong, they just need to have the last word. You just have to learn to give them headpats and let them take the W, or become a wizard. The choice is yours.

throwing shippers under the bus is so bizarre to me. its literally unicorns vs male interaction. where did this shipping nonsense come from.

>Rushia 2.0
Rushia 2.0
>Rushia 2.0
Rushia 2.0

>I'm only doing it because idol culture!
Well dropped.
I know it's a thing but you're not supposed to admit it. You're supposed to let me have my yuri fantasies and not just know for fact you're actually hiding your boyfriend behind the guise.

They got Gura in their team, right? How can these dumbasses not learn anything about how to handle ANY issues??? Yes, Gura's yab was different than what Kronii's experiencing right now, but ignoring is still the best and proven way to handle these things.

>>32200249
It’s wizard time, I’m not putting up with that much stupidity. I’d rather keep my hair and like an extra decade of my life.

I thought she handled it well because she ignored all the ars bait supers, but then she kept on talking about it, she woke up the next day and decided to talk about it again, and now shes going onto random videos and continuing to talk about it...

>>32199741
Damn you guys are really making it hard for her

>>32200174
It was probably expected that losers who spend their lives on the internet would understand this sort of shit.

>>32200226
fucking kek

>>32200229
>>32200234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_v3T1DWnQU
replies under her own pinned comment

>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
God i hate EN whores so much you joined a idol Vtuber company you whore. Say it without basically saying you hate the idol culture and throwing a fucking tantrum admitting it exists and is preferred jesus.

>>32200169
She did not cough on stream. She's continuously done the things that her manager has told her not to do. She's doing a Rushia - is it really that far off to point a potential graduation?

Did they learn absolutely nothing from Rushia?

>>32199980
Also this idol culture bogeyman thing I thought was not a thing among holomemes. Even the retard Calli seems to understand this better.

>>32200333
Blame kronies
It's not like she can escape from them

>>32200256
Imagine being this stupid. Shippers from leddit CANT WAIT to ship guys and girls together, making it super awkward for people and this is not even about the unicorns at all, its just weird in general. Imagine fans pushing a narrative with shipping that you dont give a shit about, begging for a collab with X person just because they made it headcanon that you are a couple, when in reality you have zero chemistry. Shippers are fucking cancer. I picture a bunch of literal trannies or 15 year old girls that watch vtubers doing that.

WOMAN MOMENT

>>32200359
ISREAL!!!!

>>32199741
In yesterday's thread, someone said she'd make such an update in a week. Bitch didn't even take a day.

>>32200338
She's the one making it hard for herself.
She's also the one making me hard

>>32199741
holy shit this is hilarious, maybe I'll actually join Kronii's membership now

>>32200226
cringe

>>32200375
>joins service industry
>"unfortunately customer service is a thing"

The absolute state of Kronies

>>32200338
Nothing like whining and moaning in a north korean comic forum to break some anime girl's mind

>>32200573
I'm not a kronie senpai i watch JPs

Why do people that hate le idol culture boogeyman even audition to join Hololive? What do they think they're auditioning for?

>>32200467
At this point I should introduce you to the superior Kronii who will always show tits and do everything to please you

>>32200573
Thank you for reminding me how much I wanna sex Iroha. Yes, even that picture does it for me.

>>32200375
she literally doesn't get any of this it's Kronii

>>32199741

>>32199741
These people have been online entertainers for years, there shouldn't be anything a middle aged Japanese office worker can teach them about social media usage.

>>32200631
It's just free money lmao.
And it's hard to make this claim anymore when Mori has been in since the start of holoen. And it's harder to make the claim that unicorns matter when mori is the 2nd most popular EN member.

Like it or not. The western market is just nothing but cucks.

>>32199741
>unfortunately
So she wants to be shipped with the guys herself it's just that pesky idol culture getting in the way?

>>32199741
>Yes, there unfortunately is because idol culture is a thing
Feel free to leave Hololive anytime

>>32200467
Such a waste of a fantastic character design.

>>32200631
It's a big company, Vtubing was booming after Myth so a lot of them decided to cash in on it. Also, having worked for Cover would look good on your CV if you are working in a related "field" if I can say it like that, like voice acting, anything related to streaming, etc.
They are joining because of selfish reasons, not because they love vtubing or idol culture. The amount of streams right from the start should have given you a clue.

3 person in a gen sounds kinda rough...

The irony is that random twitch whores understand this concept better than the holoen sluts.
Twitch whores know you're there for her boobs and provides what you're there for.

>>32199741
she is such a Mori

>>32200722
Proves that Koreans all should be against the wall.

>>32199741
>joins an idol company
>complains about idol culture
you can't possibly get any dumber than this

>>32200776
Yeah that's the dumbest thing she could say.
>Sign up to be an idol
>Complain about being an idol
Like you can leave at any time, retard.

>>32200835
It's edited audio dumbass.

>>32200791
Should've given the model to IRyS or someone who appreciates giant milky tits.

>>32200683
Have an Eroha to ease the pain

>>32199741
There is a proper way to address drama and this shit aint it

check keemstar in 15

>>32200836
Makes sense to me, seems like a coherent progression.

>>32199741
>Afiseaza mai putin
What monkey language is this?

you retard are getting ups in harms over nothing, she's a normalfag she doesn't even know what idolculture is and she learned about CGDCT yesterday, this was because of her being retarded about the shipping thing.

now that I think of it, it was pretty messed up of mori to invite kronii to the homocollab seeing as she wasn't informed of what would happen and wasn't trained to deal with this
gura is too smart to fall for mori's invitations but kronii isn't

It's the Rushia situation all over again. Wait until she gets into contact with keemstar.

It feels like all out war...

>>32200863
>edited audio
https://youtu.be/wnZCUlVpvwc?t=5048

>>32199741
She really needs to stop addressing this and I say that as somebody on her side. She's actively making the situation worse every time she adds a comment like this.

>>32200993
Jesas

>>32200749
Kronii just needs to choose a side. She can't play this greyline bs. Choose 1, woman. Go for the Gura route, idol, no males interactions etc. Or the Mori route, go all in with the Twitch streamer with an avatar. It's that easy.

>>32200835
Don't you dare touch based Rooftop Korean Demon Lord

>>32200863
Koreans still should be lined up though

>>32200945
Then she shouldn't speak like she knows what it is!

>>32199741
HAHHAHAHHA FUCKING GRINGOS

>>32199741
What social media training?
This is perfectly inoffensive.

>>32201073
We're gonna get a Holo version of Finana's (multiple) fuckup(s)

>>32200375
That's literally not what she wrote.

>>32201087
Anon, offense is not given, it's taken.

>>32199741
What the actual fuck is wrong with her? Did no one tell her what company she joined even after a whole year?

>>32201073
of course not but its kronii and she is retarded, the only reason she is replying is because of that fucking clipnigger nerev.

>>32201087
It's addressing what's behind the curtain.
We watch vtubers for the facade, when you constantly talk about the script and what's going on back stage it ruins the experience. Especially when it's the things that impact why they act the way they do.

Everyone knows idol culture is a thing, but admitting you act a certain way solely because it's required of you just means everything you say/do is a lie and even if we know its true coming out and admitting it just ruins it for us.

>>32200929
nin nin seeeex

>>32200269
>>32200385
>>32200399
Kronii breaking NDA by leaking Hololive info to Nux/FalseEyed/Hero Hei LET'S GOOOOOOO

>>32200439
Nigga it was the unicorn who were seething from the moment TEMPUS WAS FUCKING REVEALED they were already placing these own scenario where their oshi is being fucked by tempus in their heads no fucking shipper needed you pathetic piece of shit.

>>32199741
This is on a fucking clip too. Not even on her channel, a fucking clipper's channel

Why the fuck is she so autistically hyper focused on shipping when there wasn't even any real, non facetious shippers and everyone knows what the real heart of the issue actually is? Just adress the fucking elephant in the room, they're literally screaming for attention.

>>32201262
?????????

>>32201262
Elaborate on your interpretation

>>32201262
Its fucking right there read and process the contextual meaning nigger yikes

>>32200631
because reddit said it wasnt an idol company

>>32200359
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
Why do I even bother anymore

>>32201262
Nigga... did you even read what she wrote?

>>32199741
SOON

>>32199741
Kronii you fucking menhera retard... people would have already forgotten and moved on to le next yab if you shut the fuck up...

>>32200904
Irys is an ass girl. She'd probably take sana model

>>32201449
Reread OP, the way Kronii worded it is a little more diplomatic than anon’s paraphrasing

>>32201332
Speak for yourself. I watch Hololive because it's cute girls doing cute things or playing games with zero controversial shit. I don't want to watch a bunch of fucking homos or see those cute girls hanging out with homos. I just want cute girls doing cute things.

>>32199934
you deserve everything life throws at you, loser

>>32201449
Don't know why you posted question marks. Her words are right there and she did not write "unfortunately idol culture is a thing"

>>32201488
She said it was unfortunate that there is a double standard between male and female relationships in idol culture. You can say something is unfortunate within a culture without saying the entire culture itself is an unfortunate thing. You can believe with all your heart that she meant the latter but that's literally not her words and is your inference based on what she wrote.

>>32201525
>>32201545
Learn to read.

>>32199860
>EN
>shut the fuck up
kek

>>32200631
They saw their senpais get (what's in their mind) "free money from simps, just for playing video games a few hours per week? Sign me up!!!"

They don't have any serious appreciation for / knowledge of "idol culture" in general or "hololive culture" specifically, as most of them are just grifter thots (sure, some play the "uwu I'm such a shy loner girl teehee" act more convincingly than others, but don't be fooled) ironic weeb tourists who came into the hobby after the great EOP expansion of '20.

This, plus their general entitled western woman nature, makes them chafe and meltdown any time they are being reminded that all this "free simp money" might come with some expectations to uphold, and then it's full mask-off "muh toxic idol culture ugh entitled inceld chuds I can't even!" reveal

>>32201374

>>32201578
Sana's model is genuinely unappealing though. She's too big so moves around unnaturally from small side to side sways.

>>32199741
>For those saying there's a double standard between infidels and believers. Yes, there unfortunately is because islam is a thing
How would you interpret this, retard?

>>32201622
if their biggest chuuba can stfu when involved in some drama, I'm sure Kronii can

>>32199741
She's basically going to shit on everyone from all sides so she doesn't have to accept any kind of responsibility. She should have just kept her fucking mouth shut.

>>32201661
Chud-kun nailed it here honestly. Myth came in with faulty expectations.

>>32201383
God I hope not.

>>32199741
I member of this bitch because I like her and like Tempus and I was defending her from the uniniggers but jesus christ all she has to do is shut the fuck up and ignore the retards, she's fucking worse than mori

>>32201611
>>32201723

>>32199741
No one in the west, including Kronii, has any idea what idol culture actually is

>idol culture
And there it is. She was against it all this time and is blaming her fans for the harass ment from male collabs

>>32201824
That last one isn't real is it?

>>32201824
I'm sure she will feel better if she hits the lea-I mean drankies.

>>32201611
That advice coming from someone of your apparent reading compressional level at this point your as dumb as she is or shit posting

>>32201824
holy shit
im enjoying this hobby again

>>32201824
you forgot to edit the last part buddy

>>32201877
none of it is

>>32201723
She despised the teachings of Allah, deserves rajm under sharia law

>>32201041
Is more like she's realizing the situation now but she also learned that it is unicorns who buy most of her and the girls over priced merchandise she wants to tell unicorn to fuck off but can't because she loves the money she receives from them. So she keeps trying to flip back and forth giving you the illusion that she understand both side when in fact she actually doesn't. Kronii is only digging her grave deeper at this point. This is what happen when you pander to unicorn who think they can control you. Oh well.

>>32201814
gura? didn't even follow the fags on Twitter, no mention about their debut, no mention anything. I think I need an oshi switch

>>32201824
fucking kek

>>32201824
Holy shit this reminds me of the Mori lean tweet KEK

>>32201723
She wants to be shipped with Tempus, but can't because bad idol culture.

>>32201880
>>Selen SHIMEJI! Have your own Chibilen!
I'm not sure where that quoted text came from, she's a nijisanji or something right? Either way I'll keep it for lols. I'm glad that tweet is still making you mad, it's very funny.

>>32201824
kek Mori 2.0

>>32202017
anon...

>>32201877
It is

>>32202017
it is the mori lean tweet

>>32200573
>American
>food analogy

>>32201824
Nice edit

>>32202009
Clue: It's not about >muh males

>Kronies in the future

If you told me council would be 3 members a few months ago I wouldn't have called you a mad man. Now...

>>32199741
This is Kronii's first big drama I guess she's just on another level of retarded, these girls are really putting themselves on fire over some guys they barely know for a month.....

>>32199741
Okay I haven't been paying attention to what I consider a nothingburger but this is a pretty bad move
>double standards
>idol culture
I don't know why some non-JP members keep having this shit opinion when Fubuki collabs with men just fine and she's still considered an idol. If Kronii wants to collab she should just do it instead of making up excuses

>>32202058
>>32202086
Damn I didn't even notice the dates, with how she's been acting lately I really didn't think it would be out of the question for her to tweet that

>>32201824
God what a retard

>>32201824
Big ups Kronii!

>>32201900
It doesn't matter what she wrote. You would find any way to twist them to whatever you want. All she wrote is that there are expectations in idol culture that she doesn't like and you take that as an attack on the very concept of idol culture and that she wants to tear down the entire thing. Or perhaps you think banning male interaction is the defining feature of idol culture, which it isn't. Either way you don't actually want to discuss this with any modicum of nuance, you just want to shit on Kronii, and that's why she should honestly shut the fuck up about this because every single comment she'll make will just result in somebody shitting on her.

Did anyone in EN join because they wanted to be an idol or did they just want the fat paycheck they're guaranteed if they get in?

>>32202149
They could've just been upfront about it or simply ignore. Why is this so hard for them realize.

>>32202092
>edit

>>32202159
Literally nobody finds Fubuki attractive.

>>32199741
To the Hololive graveyard with you

>>32202103
you get what you fucking deserve

>>32200338
We??

I knew this would happen when mori was the second most popular holoEN.
If she had joined Vshojo and understood the painful reality before joining holoEN, things would be different.

>>32202228
wait... then how come I fap to Fubuki every other day......

>>32202228
i do, and my name is not mr nobody

Man, how schizo and retarded are her fans that she has to spell it out like this? I feel bad for her

>>32202224
Gura did

>>32202224
I think IRyS is the only one, but that's sort of cheating since she's practically Japanese. Western girls really do have no idea what they're doing.

>>32202262
Kson is pretty unhappy in her position, and is now trying to fight the system.

>>32202224
Gura. And ironically Kiara, even if she comes dragging a hell of a past.

>>32202296
>Man, how schizo and retarded are her fans that she has to spell it out like this? I feel bad for her
Have to remember: she cultivated that fanbase over the course of a year.

>>32202214
This is maximum cope have a great day feel better soon sorry not sorry but you have shit taste in woman

>>32201723
Unfortunately x thing exists because y is a thing

this is substantively different than x thing exists because unfortunately y exists. The unfortunately in the former is lamenting that idol culture comes with certain bad things. The latter laments that idol culture itself exists. This is one of the few situations in English where word order is super important.

Management told her to keep her mouth shut that's all she had to do. People would eventually forget about this, but no she decided to stuck her hand right into the hornets nest

You made your bed so lie in it Kronners. Just ignore all your old fans and focus on the new group and new content you're making instead of trying to get the best of both worlds.

>>32199741
Whenever I read Kronii's words it sounds like Linkara.

>>32201841
Yeah this is not a good look.

Either she's serious and this is a mask-off moment revealing that she's actually one of those "muh toxic idol culture entitled incel chuds!" wimminz that hate (classic) Hololive and its old fans (which begs the question why are you even here in the first place, but oh well).

Or (and this is how her remaining cuck fans try to spin it because it's the less bad of the options) she's just retarded and uses big boy words like "idol culture" without actually understanding what it really means and just things its a synonym for "things I don't like".
Basically a Finana 2.0 "traps is harmful, educate urself!", or a Mori 2.0 "I hit the lean, oops I meant drankies, oops I meant alcohol sorry I don't actually know what all this rap lingo actually means haha" moment

>>32202296
That's the thing, she doesn't. What she did previously was enough. But she keeps going and just making it worse.

>>32202224
Kiara, IRyS, and Gura

>>32202382
Maybe if she'd stop acting like a mentally ill doomer all the time she'd attract a more sane fanbase.

>>32202296
All she had to do was shut the fuck up. Yet she keeps making schizos even more schizophrenic and retarded.

>>32202384
You're so cliche it's funny.

>>32202228
Speak for yourself friend

>>32202237
fuck i never noticed the rubber chicken before

>>32200904
IRyS hates her own brown ass so much that she turns the contrast on her streams up to 11.

>>32200942
Romanian.

>>32200385
>She's continuously done the things that her manager has told her not to do
proof?

>>32202228
Well, she's cute, but it's Kurokami version that's pure sex and actually wants wife stuff. Fuck I wish she's around more

>>32202224
Where in the world does anyone like to work for retarded jap company? Hololive is just a vocational training center to enter vshojo that treat streamers as human. This is what kson and nazuna have proven!

>>32202296
He fans don't care what she does. All her comments are addressing antis who don't give a shit what she has to say which is why she's stupid for continuing to addressing it.

>>32202484
I always laugh when her model is on someone else's channel. Watched that KiaRys interview thing for Dokomi and her not looking like a CIA operative was pretty funny

>>32201997
>he's fallen for it too
It's not about YOUR "unicorns". The issue is that when you try to take a stance in this type of situation you draw EVERYONE remotely interested in this to you, whether in your fanbase or not, to either make a martyr of you so they can satisfy their sense of justice, or an example of you to serve as a dire warning to their oshi. Either way, someone's getting burned. This is why the safest course of action is to shut up and take your lumps - or lack of them - depending on how much of your real fanbase actually cares.

>>32202009
Despite how much shit i give gura for being a lazy whore i gotta give her props for sticking up to her guns and not mention tempus. Tempus by default will get shat on by unicorns as long these dumb ass women keep mentioning them. Because only in a unicorn mind collabing a male coworker means their oshi want to fuck them. Gura avoided all mentions of them. She might be on the spectrum but she's not stupid.

>>32202386
>word order is super important
>few situations

>>32199741
It's not even about idol culture, I don't fucking care about idols.
This shit is like randomly introducing 5 main male characters in the third season of a CGDCT anime, of course people are going to get angry.

>>32199741
>I believe I clarified more than enough
You sure did, the second you joined that collab. You stupid bitch. You dumb slut. Now you'll keep damage controlling because you want to have your cake and eat it too, and further disgrace yourself.
EN was a mistake.

>>32202484
Yeah a shame she was given such a shit model.

>>32199741
God why, your last comment was a perfect end, everyone was happy except your Antis. Why can you just not shut the fuck up for once?

good shit, dont let this drama die out just yet. give the rest of holoEN more reasons why to never collab with males

>>32202484
wait what? Is that legit?

>>32200375
Please cry more your tears are delicious

>>32202009
actual idol culture has little to do with male interaction unless you're a time traveler from the 80s, AKB pretty much defined what idols of the modern age are

>>32202343
hi holofahgs!!! have you ever heard of "talent freesom"?
She should feel happy just to get out of that nightmare and into that vshojo.

So did Kronii get influenced by the homobeggars? I feel like "toxic idol culture" is pretty much their calling card and from what I was reading it seemed like Kronii was interacting with a lot of them during her members stream

>>32202699
Hiring Redjuice was a mistake.

>>32202731
Look at any of her solo streams and then look at an off-channel collab.

>>32199741
>idol culture
is she a redditor?

>>32202343
What happened to talent freedom

>>32202650
HOLY KEK

>>32202756
your cope gives me life seethe tranny nigger

>>32202864
>Redjuice
I read that as Redditjuice. This place has fucking melted what was left of my brain.

>>32202225
Most issues in HoloEN can be avoided by just being upfront about it (preferably at debut).
Instead they resort to mental gymnastics and both, the fake and true fans, pick up the lies pretty easily.
They want to have their cake and fuck it raw all night long.

>>32199741
>acum 21 de minute
Is that seanigger speach?

>>32202624
Unicorns are a minority and derided even among idol fans, they should just be ignored and outcasted

>>32202826
she doesn't know how to deal with any of the shit that has been happening for the past few days..

You guys are kinda dumb and are way overreacting. Yes, people shipping her with the boys is the thing that pissed her off the most. She's always shown favouritism to her unicorns/gachis from day 1. She's slso a normie when it comes to hololive and the subculture generally. She'll be fine, this isn't even a yab.

>>32202873
WAIT. FUCK YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK. YOU CUNTS TRIED TO GASLIGHT SOME ANON AGES AGO TO THINK THAT IRYS WAS BROWN. I ain't falling for it! I know your jew tricks, you fucks.

>>32202939
kek

>>32199860
Management literally told her to just shut the fuck up and let it blow over. Instead She went on a tirade about shipping, She did a unarchived members stream where she tried to court her gachis/unicorns back, and now this shit.

>>32200338
She's the one making me hard

ITT, anons cant handle someone telling them they're being gay

>>32202650
That was basically my beef as well.

>>32199741
Fuuuuuck she's so retarded. I love her.

>>32202296
The thing is, she-s not spelling it out. Shes avoiding the real problem within her fanbase, exactly because they're so schizo

>>32199860
that's what Rushia should have done as well lmao

>>32201824
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
Why are you in Hololive if this bothers you? Ah, right, it's the money. Kroni, you aren't entitled to anyone's money or attention just because you are a woman. Either be an idol and EARN both respect and money, or leave and go the Vshoujo route.

HoloEN as a whole is a disaster with some notable exceptions like Gura or Kiara. This is just general e-thot behaviour, and it's repulsive. It's baffling how oblivious and full of contempt she is. I dodged this bullet though since she didn't interest me in a basic sense.

>>32199741
she literally instructed us to defend her, can't believe she's like this

>>32199741
Im unironically starting to fucking hate her so much, she was always the most inoffensive EN to me because I couldn't give less shits about her, but now she's unironically starting to piss me off.
I don't care about the fags or anything like that, hell I don't even think iev ever watched a single kronii stream but this kind of garbage is infuriating

>>32199741
EN was a mistake

kronii and regis is definitely having an online relationship behind the scenes, her reaction to this makes it so obvious

>>32199741
Why is she still doing this? She could have said a sentence or two about her not liking being shipped and moved on. Hell, she could have just shut the fuck up and ignored it. Acknowledging antis is never a good decision.

>>32203360
I like Fauna and Ina a lot, they're very soothing to listen to and nice. I can't really tolerate the others at all. Irys seems nice, I guess.

>>32201824
WHY DID YOU APPLY TO AN IDOL COMPANY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IDOL CULTURE YOU DUMB FUCKING WHORE???

magni should have an online relationship with (Me)

>>32202826
She got influenced by mori. Kronii seem to be very ignorant about the unicorns weeb idol culture. Based on how she keeps giving this dumb shit attention had mori explained the consequences that would follow kronii would had decline it since she hates dealing with this type of bullshit instead here we are now. Shit mori didn't had to tell her shit regardless when all they had to do is learned from mori trash take collab where unicorns were seething and sending her condom money. But of course kronii is a retard.

>>32203464(me)
Wait a minute....

>>32203360
Just get rid of Mori, Rrat and Kronii and everything is good.

>>32201824
Lot of retards replying to this seriously.

Wow! It's nothing!

I can't believe I would say this, even Regis hasn't feed the unicorns regarding this. Just stfu pls. You're creating problems even for the boys.

>>32203534
the tweet is fake but she did say basically the same thing in the OP image

>>32203581
this board is full of room temperature IQ "people", does it surprise you?

>>32203068
I agree but i was just referring about avoiding bullshit in general. I want more collab with the boys but i also respect gura decision. Girls should only collab if they want to. But some will restrain themselves for that unicorn money.

>>32199741
I've lost faith in this chuuba

watching vtuber should give me pleasure, this chuuba gives me only bad emotions

she needs a break

>>32199741
How is all the cuck shit a surprise? This is the same person who bragged about getting a random guy's phone number on her tweet space.

>>32199741
I absolutely adore this motherfucker, all he needs to do is to be himself and by his mere presence alone he can make faggots, trannies and the mentally ill seethe like no other.
Truly, a man among men.

>>32203721
>she needs a break
yeah, a permanent one

Congrats on falling for the bait, retards.

Note to Cover: don't hire western normalfags for EN3.

>>32199741
All i know is one absolute truth
/u/ shitters and people who are afraid of males should ship themselves with a rope and join the 41%

>>32203622
The boys are all pretty anti gachikoi overall. Nowa made a joke during ftl about venting all of Tempus' gachis out into the vacuum of space, for example.

>>32199741
Ayame is right about "people" like Kronii and Ina.

>>32203622
>creating problems even for the boys
proof?

>>32203799
I think it's higher than 41% now

>>32201661
>They don't have any serious appreciation for / knowledge of "idol culture" in general or "hololive culture" specifically, as most of them are just grifter thots
The ASMR community in a nutshell. I miss 2012/2013 like you won't believe.

>>32199741
lol I always thought I was good at avoiding manipulative people, man has whorii proved me wrong

>>32199741
The clipper noticed the shitstorm and decided to disable comments.

>>32203799
I'm sure it's like 50% now

Time for her to double back and start unfucking this problem.

>>32200016
bro have you seen the fucking pointless arguments that happen all over this board on the daily
it’s either not just women or this board is full of them

>>32203577
Bae is still good as long as she doesn’t sperg out

>>32203966
Dont use a stellar manga for your vt shitposting thx

>>32203961
Got contacted by HoloEN management or Kronii herself, for sure. KEK

mori and kronii should learn a thing or two from gura

>>32199741
>on stream male yab
Rushia
>blames idol culture instead of accepting this as basic human nature
Mori
>gaslighting
Sana
>L + ratio + you're cringe @ shipfags
Finana
>thank you and never come back
Kson

She's like the voltron of disgraced corporate vtubers. Apparently got in over her head without even understanding the job or its fans. Hololove really knows how to pick 'em.

>>32199741
this is what you get gringo, kill yourself

>>32199741
>hates her model
>hates her fanbase
>hates her job
I really don't get the hate towards Mori. Mori acts more of an idol than Kronii will ever be.

>>32204030
>Bae is still good as long as she doesn’t sperg out
Nah, she's another Ollie in the making.

>>32204058
For real, Gura got shitstormed her first couple of months and handled it perfectly. How hard is it for these girls to just stfu? Their egos are bigger than the actual biggest EN chuuba... Imagine...

>>32204053
someone from /infinity/ contacted him because that clipper is a also an /infinity/cuck

>>32203961
>Kroni Status: Silenced
Finally someone understands. You gotta put a leash on retardation.

>>32204203
what the fuck are you talking about, cuckbeat?

>>32203961
Probably the best thing he could do for her because she was doing herself no favors in the comments.

>>32204311
What the hell is /infinity/?

>>32203961
>hides kronii's comment
>keeps the video up anyway
i say based

>>32204416
the Kronii general here

>>32204203
Kronii might be an idiot, but name one eceleb collab she’s brought in versus Mori’s constant bullshit.

>>32199741
>clarify previous statements
>”she’s just digging herself deeper!!”
>don’t clarify previous statements
>”here’s my schizoid, contextually-divorced interpretation of your first statement, now justify to me a point of view that you never held”
fucks sake everything any chuuba ever does is wrong in some way because you schizos think way too much and way too deeply about pretend online anime girls
there has to be a better place to discuss virtual youtubers than this shithole dear god

>>32203961
You know it's bad when a fucking CLIPPER has to disable comments on his own clip to stop the vtuber he's clipping from posting retarded stuff.

kronii is just one long continuous woman moment

>>32204053
5k to turn off the comment section. Easy money

>>32201432
I think she's not aware of elephant, kronii gets a lot of clingy types of superchats and that's what she thinks is the problem here

>>32203915
Example
Fauna: check the boys give them some support
Sappling: mommy is cheating on us with tempus fuck those guys lets shit on them
Kronii: I will not feature men on my channels but if the boys request me ill do collabs with them.
Krocucks: this bitch told us no males and now she's fucking altare in his own channel fuck them lets anti them
And it just go on and on among the girls unicorn fanbases.

The girls Mentioning tempus alone is enough to trigger the cuckold ptsd fantasies unicorns keep relieving through these girls.

>>32204455
>constant
>4 collabs across 2 years, 2 of which were for sponsored content

>>32204474
>”here’s my schizoid, contextually-divorced interpretation of your first statement, now justify to me a point of view that you never held”
The thing is that happens with every comment she makes. "Clarifying" her statements just makes this part keep repeating. Let the schizos make up their narrative. It will eventually fade away.

>>32204574
Versus....?

>>32204206
What Ollie and Bae are doing doesn’t even come close to Kronii and especially Mori. They may collab with males frequently, but atleast they try to keep it as low-key as possible (not going schizo mode and writing a paragraph or repeatedly showing an extreme level of unprofessionallism)

>>32199741
lmao dumb whore

>>32201772
>Myth
She's from council
Gura teamed up with Suisei btw

>>32201399
Look at Mori's comment about shipping. I dont think she gives a shit about unicorns and even she said that shipping is generally weird and that it puts some people in uncomfortable situations. But thanks for not getting what I was trying to say at all you subhuman ESL trash.

>>32199741
Dorito is graduating

>>32201824
You forgot to edit date

>>32199741
This is why you don't hire "recreational" drug addicts.

>>32201661
>play video games
LOL
They don't even do that. The only one who came close to playing video games on the EN side was Kiara and she got slapped with numbers debuffs. The rest are just minecraft and apex streamers.
Two things that Stars EN has revealed is that the permissions game really is fucking retarded because they can't get the games they want to play and that most hololive viewers do not want to watch video games unless you have the boomer audience like Vesper, Korone, and Subaru who are more than willing to watch retro games and JRPG's.

>>32204595
I wasn't making a comparison, just that the statement of "constant" is incorrect

>>32204455
>Kronii might be an idiot, but name one eceleb collab she’s brought in versus Mori’s constant bullshit.
that's the problem, retardchama. You can't dangle on the grey line. Go full Mori or go home. At least Mori got the balls to do her thing, unlike Kronii who wants to play both sides.

>>32204640
>Ollie
>low-key
Anon... This girl complained that stars would not be able to get on ID minecraft server after merge with JP.

>>32204424
I hope she decides to address it again thinking it wasn't properly seen
As a JPfag I love this arc so much

>>32203799
based.

It's incredible how many brewing yabs can be solved by just shutting the fuck up.

>>32204562
I always assume people who overreact to statements like that fauna one are trolling. The reaction of legitimate fans to this stuff is to try downplay it, defend it and say it's not an issue for as long as it's tenable to do so. People want to bury their head in the sand and hope it goes away if their oshi starts doing something they don't like or quietly inform them without causing a scene not have a mass freakout over nothing.

>>32204474
She's not being misunderstood, retard. Nobody likes what she's saying.

>>32201824
the people who thought this was real are a demonstration of the average intellect on this board
what a shithole

>>32203394
She shouldn't have said a single fucking thing about shipping. Shipping will happen, it's inevitable, it happens with vtubers, it happens with regular streamers, it's been happening with movie and TV stars for decades, gossiping about famous possibly dating is an entire fucking industry. You're famous (even in a somewhat niche activity) and good looking, you interact with someone else that's famous and good looking, people will immediately picture you two fucking and want to talk about it, possibly draw it. Deal with it.

>>32204011
>this board is full of cute femanons and I'll never get to impregnate them
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>32204894
>cute
>femanons
Anon, it’s for the better that you can’t...

>>32204562
no. proof as in did they create any problems for the boys? or you're just talking about the girls fanbase sperging out all by themselves?

>>32204011

>>32201399
Shipping is looked down upon even when girls are involved, and its not only a thing that unicorns seethe about. Sometimes it happens organically and its not weird. But most of the time its a narrative pushed by a bunch of crazed teenagers feeling the need to pair up everyone together. Even when only girls are involved. Remember when Myth was still new, a lot of people were cringing about all the yuri baiting from Kiara for example. It quite literally appeals to the lowest common denominator, and a lot of vtuber fans dont like it.

>>32204864
and that will be true no matter what she does or doesn’t say

>>32204800
what's the deal with that, anyway? Are the stars just banned from playing on the holoserver now after the merge?

What a fucking waste of a model from Wada. Imagine if it had been given to someone who loves streaming and respects the medium.

>>32201723
haram woman needs to be ritually purified by my halal cock

>>32204640
>Ollie
>keep it as low-key as possible
She tried to make her ID senpais collab with Connor during her first months and got depressed when there was backlash, and months later she expressed how she was saddened about trying to fulfill her role as an idol due to her JP senpais avoiding males while she wants to collab with them. I don't know if she's changed though, at least I don't give her much shit about it nowadays

>>32205022
Honestly as a casual Korone enjoyer I'm sort of offended by that depiction of her.

>>32205053
Don’t they have their own server?

>>32204474
>there has to be a better place to discuss virtual youtubers than this shithole dear god
There is, is called reddit, I invite you to go there

>>32204851
amazing really, mori seems to have finally learned after the cuck and lean incident and now it's kronii's turn

>>32204424
How would he let that juicy ad revenue go to waste? I would be mad if he did

>>32205155
Reddit had a thread on this shit too until someone from the general here got it deleted.
Its the same shit everywhere. And now that im done being logical:
You got to go back

>>32204800
That’s not too ba-
>>32205119
Nevermind. I stand corrected.

>>32205053
>>32205144
As all the Hologirls servers are connected, JP can hard veto it.

>>32201814
I keep seeing this word getting thrown around.
Why exactly is "interaction with male = bad" in "idol culture" when professional interviews, managers, producers etc. exist?
What exactly does "idol culture" mean exactly?

>>32205125
Nothing personal, kid

>>32205053
They have own server like every branch. ID was allowed to invite them to theirs for collabs until merge with JP server happened.

>>32204882
It's weird to me that saying you don't want to be shipped with the boys is so controversial in HoloEN, when Mysta said he requested not to be shipped with the girls because it could cause both sides problems nobody got upset of anything he was praised for it or it got the reaction of yeah I get why it is that way.

>>32205314
Honestly, >>32202650 sums it up pretty well.

>>32200414
Kronii does actually get hit with it harder though considering sexy doko was a thing.

>>32205001
The girls fanbase sperging out by themselves i just provided an example of what makes them sperg out. Fauna hasn't mentioned them as far as i know kek. But the rest including the kronii bit is reality.

These people will sperg out by just hearing tempus come out their oshi mouth.

They were already sperging out the moment tempus was announced as a EN branch.

>>32202224
Kiara, Gura, Irys I guess.
Ame is probably more into the tech stuff.
Kinda surprised that it wasn't her who kicked off homo drama for once.

>>32204424
>>32205230
Cover could claim the video if they wanted it gone. It's literally their content.

>>32205314
at its core, idol culture is the journey of watching someone grow and wishing for their true happiness and achieving their dreams
unicorns are derided in the community wanting to restrict the happiness of idols for their own personal gratification

>>32205240
Uh, I thought that it was implicit that you had to go back, guess it should have been explicit after all

>gender fluid lesbian joins hololive
>"idol culture bad"
Are you really surprised?

>>32205605
I can fix her! with my cock!

>>32205571
im not that anon, i'm posting what the kronies are crying about in their general

>>32205227
Mori collaborated with three holostars and the worst she did was just be her awkward spaghetti spilling self.
Which is the most you can expect.

>>32205645
To late she belongs to Tempus now.

>>32205539
Why they joined:
Idol stuff: Gura, Kiara, IRyS
CGDCT: Ina, Mumei, Fauna
Normalfags for financial reasons or clout: Mori, Kronii, Rrat
Dirty Fujo: Ame

>>32205677
was referring more towards Mori finally learning when to shut up about an issue

>>32205314
It's not idol culture, westerners dont even know what idol culture is. Holos are in name only idols anyways.

Looks like T-chan nuked all discussion of the comment on the subreddit too. They’re definitely trying to clean up her mess now, wonder if she’ll get in any trouble for sperging out.

Looks like the mentally ill pronouns brigade destroyed hololive after all

>>32205034
Wrong. If she didn't collab with males none of this would be happening.

>>32205729
>To late she belongs to Tempus now.
I don't think Tempus fans want her.

>>32205747
Didn't expect to get the job: Sana

>>32205776
Graduate the bitch.

How do holofags have the same fucking drama with a different talent every couple months? Doesn't it get tiring?

>>32205377
There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be shipped with boys.
The problem is that Kronii tried to say that in such a weird ass way in a time when there wasn't even a problem.
That's why people are starting to say that this is exactly like the Rushia thing. Kronii saw triggered retards in her members community and decided to say something, but all it did was expose the double standard.
When the double standard was exposed, she had to keep digging farther into the shit.
In other words, Kronii should not have said anything in the first place. Instead, she just made a nothing burger into a yab burger just like Rushia did.
tldr: SHUT THE FUCK UP KRONII FOR FUCKS SAKE YOU ARE RUINING EVERYTHING

>>32205798
Nigga none of this would be happening if you werent a schizo. It dont matter what, some shit was always going to set you niggas off at some point.

>>32205776
management told her to ignore it in the first place, she might end up with a suspension in worst case

>>32205776
Nah

>>32205811
You're telling me they used her and won't take responsibility? Based.

>>32205776
Sounds like management decide to intervene.

>>32205645
Yes
>>32205796
Yes
>>32205811
I'll take her

>>32205934
Nope. All she had to do was not collab with males.

>>32205811
>Tempus fans don't want her
That alone makes them better than any existing holo fanbase.

>>32205949
as usual, the Leddit yes-men

>>32205949
Ah okay that makes more sense. Found it odd that T-chan managed to actually do something promptly.

>>32205390
>>32205773
okay so this situation has nothing to do with idols and Kronii is a retard.
I'd still like to know what exactly westerners think "idol culture" actually is.

>>32205949
>Ollie
>Said something stupid
Imagine my shock. I still remember her playing Hololive saying you could use the psycho axe to cut your wrists pffaaahaahaha

>>32205776
isnt there a reddit mirror where you can view deleted posts?

>>32205945
Normally I don't agree with suspending the talents when the fans are acting like a bunch of schizos but that's probably the best thing management could do for her in this case. She seriously needs to cool down and let this blow over but she's showing no self-restraint and even continuing to address it even when told not to.

Hopefully they'll make an example out of her for the rest. Shave her head or something like other idol whores get.

>>32205776
Sounds like she deserves a hard, strong, painful correction of sexual nature

>>32206067
They don't think it's anything. To them these girls are just streamers who use anime girl characters instead of webcams. HololiveEN was a mistake.

>>32202296
if you start paying attention to her superchat readings you'll quickly realise she changes tone for certain people, she's hardcore enabling unicorn behaviour

>>32205949
He's just empowering these kinds of women, at least the Mori x Connor poster didn't remove his and let Mori get some backlash

>>32200226
cringe

>>32205798
And that's the point everyone is to make kronii retarded ass understand. Unicorns wants to prohibit her from working with male altogether. Kronii instead is being a retard and giving the ether to the wrong fanbase. The problem was never the shipper but misogynistic unicorn who want to treat her like she's their wife and property. If the truth hurt you then quit being a retard.

But isn't Kronii non binary, therefore not a woman, therefore anyone who collabs with her should be considered a whore too?

>>32206288
She conveniently stopped saying that when she wanted to join the Japanese idol company.

>>32199741
>Being in a relationship with a co worker is bad
>OH BUT I WANT TO KEEP THE SHIP I HAVE WITH THIS GIRL!!!

>>32206288
Looks like the urge for Korean penis had awakened her feminine side again

>>32202224
Gura and Kiara seem to be the only EN members who joined for idol work. Gura herself is now dedicating herself to Japanese studies and has had more guest appearances in concerts than non-Rust streams the past couple months. At the very least, Gura is actively chatting the idol dream

>>32206067
They think it's all ultra unicorn pandering gfe shit. To them, shit like Macross isn't idol anime because the girls have love interests.
And lets not even speak of idols that get married and shit

>>32206266
No if you see it from her perspective her fans are getting riled up because people are shipping her and altare. There wasn't anything notable about that interaction between them to her. So it's shippers making a big deal out of nothing and then her fans getting upset because something that wasn't a big deal was made to seen like it was. So from her perspective stop the shippers and you stop the fans being upset. What she doesn't realise though is that it's just the fans being upset to begin with over that interaction and other fans trolling them when they're already upset by pretending to ship the two.

>>32206405
>I WOULD ALSO LIKE SHIPS WITH GUYS BUT LE IDOL CULTURE BAD!!!

>>32206577
macross isn't an idol anime retard

>>32206288
nah, she had some gender-confused social media posts years ago (not surprising, modern culture with its retarded messages makes many young people mentally ill), so anons ran with that and made her out to be some sort of tranny freak for the shitpost memes. She's actually just a normal woman, and if she was confused in the past, she's not now after feeling her pussy gush again when in the presence of the stars males and how she can't wait to hop on their dick again

>>32206628
>LE BOOGEYMAN BAD!

>>32205934
This

>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
imagine simping for tumblrina in the first place. globaltards shouldn't have ever leave reddit. DISGUSTANG

>>32203075
>NOTHING BURGER
see you in two weeks

>>32206158
>Shave her head
And what do I get out of that?
>>32206166
Brother, you understand.
>>32206266
Implying she's not my wife and property.
>>32206288
>therefore not a woman
Not "a," mine, in my imagination. She's completely oblivious, has no idea what she's doing or saying, is coping and rationalizing, and I love when this menhera breaks down. Sometimes you just wanna watch a chuba self-immolate for your entertainment. Love this bitch. Definitely a woman, regardless of what she says.

>>32205949
sasuga Tranny-chan

>>32202224
Fauna looks like doesn't seem to be against idol culture.
>wants 3d so bad
>wants to go to Japan
>takes voice lessons
also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKUDyg-jBU&t=5333s

>>32206837
i have a kink for female headshaving. I'm ok with this.

>>32199741
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing

>>32207015
She and Mumei are CGDCT connoisseurs.

Need to get Kronii away from Fauna and Mumei ASAP.
She can choke on dicks like the slutty rat

>>32206266
You can say the problem is caused by whoever you want, but that doesn't resolve the situation, does it? They're still going to get the same consequences.

>>32207176
Pretty much, Mumei gets really excited when she finds female fans and loves her #1 fan Zeta

The fans are pissed and we demand blood. And since she's not a virgin it'll have to be her head instead

Wasn't Mumei forced into a StarsJP collab?

none of this would happen if she just said on day fucking one that she wouldn't mind streaming with boys (like how Bae already expersed her interest with Stars, mainly Roberu) or even guys outside of Holostars (like what Calli did with TT guys.) now she suddenly a year later into her holo career decided to stream with males and shes wondering why people would be angry or upset over that. this is like if Fauna just randomly a year later went "Ok, come watch my collab with Magni! Will be doing Spore together!"

>>32207482
Yeah, she just stayed quiet and drew things the entire time while the Stars stared quietly horrified at her drawings

>>32207548
>Drew fucked up shit
>Says nothing
Good comedy there

>>32207524
Schadenfreude inside of me wants that. Saplings need to go nuclear. I need that breakdown

>>32207482
yes and it was an actual nothingburger since she didn't say shit and also people on here are more linnet on the StarsJP then StarsEN

>>32207524
Funny that you use that image, she apparently didn't know that "Ahoy" was an hololive song, i'm starting to wonder if she has no idea what she joined and spent a year doing fuck all to figure it out.

>>32207482
>forced
No. No one can force her to do that. At least go with rrat that she made a deal with Bae to go for this collab in exchange for Bae helping her get closer to JPs.

>>32207482
>>32207548
I read that she didnt like the collab and spoke to Bae about it afterwards, but that was just some random anon here so I'm not sure if its actually true

>>32207606
Bae kept trying to pull her into conversations and she just replied with random owl noises

>kronii doesn't understand all the positivity is just subversives, cucks and concern trolls
>kronii doesn't understand that nobody will tell the truth in public
Watching the member stream is a special kind of how can she be this stupid. I hope by the end of it she realizes that she's unironically an egirl and her entire fanbase just wants to fuck her. Also
>those eating and sucking noises
Unf

>>32207873
Now that is kind of cringe.
Bae is acting normal and Mumei is sperging out.

so... what happen now lads?
council would be the gen that has 3 ori members beside gamers?

>>32206832
Gura will not collab with tempus kek stop it. She would rather graduate and get the chance to take her unicorn with her to her rm account than to lose support of those unicorns while being an active talent and having to stream consistently again which she does not want to do.

>>32200359
>comments turned off
HOLY

>>32208197
>council would be the gen that has 3 ori members beside gamers?
I wouldn't mind Bae leaving as well and just combining IRyS, Mumei and Fauna into a new group.

>>32208287
someone has been bonked by the menagment, kek

>>32208398
bae is fine cmon, shes pure sex

>>32207857
Is not that she didn't enjoyed the collab she was just bored as fuck because she spoke no japanese so she was not having any type of enjoyment at all.

>>32208468
More like Kronii traded sex to get him to do it. Fucking whores will be whores

>>32204474
Anon, no one will GAF about what some schizos on /vt/ say. She should have just kept quiet. Heck, her manager told her that much - keep quiet, and things will cooldown (if not blow over) in time. She could have listened to that advice and got out of this relatively unscathed. Instead, she felt the needs to clarify herself and make things worse.
This is Rushia all over again, except on much lesser extent and Kronii isn't anywhere nearly as menhera so fortunately, it won't be as disastrous. These girls really need to learn to shup up and wait. That has been done to deal with scandals / drama successfully many times over ages by idols, politicians, businessmen, actors / actresses and such. It's not like faggots on Reddit or Twitter (or anywhere outside of YT comment / /vt/) were against her.
Seriously, after Rushia, maybe Cover should just take away their talents' access to social media platforms during drama. These dumb girls just can't be trusted to deal with shits properly

>>32208108
can't be helped, Mumei has despised men since her bf cheated on her causing a nasty breakup

How did kronii went from having unicorn seething at her one day then shippers seething at her the next day and now regular fags fans of her and seething on her kek not even mori have gone through all the mental gymnastics kronii has gone thru in the past 3 days KEK

This has just taught me women cannot be trusted.
I'm moving to Tempus

>>32209004
Because she keeps on throwing another group under the bus every time she tries to smooth things over.

>>32209004
She tries to please everyone, her gachis still love her though.

>>32209004
I am all 3

>>32209080
This is why i said it would've been best had she listened to management but you know women can't help themselves since they always want to have the last word. She turned what was literally a nothing burger into a huge fucking deal.

>>32205390
>>32205773
>>32206067
some purist definition of idol doesn't matter when the fact is they're selling an image and a big attraction is availability, so like it or not it's a part of idol culture and I can point to different "scandals" to prove it

>>32209004
Because the unicorns were seething because they're schizos. She tried to pretend that the current drama wasn't about / due to them, though, so shes now throwing literally everyone else under the bus and people are also aware of the elephant in the room that shes wilfully ignoring.

>>32205022
this must have been made by a femanon.
it reeks of it. it looks like it was made by a gaiafag wannabe boxxy who started browsing 4chan in 2006-2008 because of a boyfriend who showed her memes