/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>32189808

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>201,571: Hololive (Hololive)
>64,350: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>28,912: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,417: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,946: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,874: Akina (Nijisanji)
>18,700: Ui (Indie)
>17,508: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,004: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,426: Reid (Neo Porte)
>11,247: Calli (Hololive)
>10,615: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,576: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>10,213: Calli (Hololive)

# is stagnating. We need new bait

>>32189812
Shiki my beloved…

>>32189933
What if we switch the names?
HOLOLIVESATION 2022

>September events

Hololive
>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)
>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)
>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)
>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)
>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update
>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)

Nijisanji
>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)
>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release
>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)
>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)
>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)

>>32189676
I think Pekora likes being Pekora.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>32189980
Will Ayame finally stream again on her birthday?

I think the problem with Iluna is that they didn't add anything to the group. Everything that they do has been done to death already.

>>32189922
SILVER
>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*
>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers
>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE
>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game
>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2
>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal
>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE
>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz
>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST
>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb
>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8
>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>19) 33,956: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>20) 38,850: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
>21) 41,674: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #6
>22) 38,441: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>23) 50,782: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>24) 28,972: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>25) 52,902: Shiranami Ramune (VSPO) Debut stream
>26) 116,911: Oliver (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>27) 68,650: Salome (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>28) 44,569: Toko (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>29) 42,169: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) Mahjong
>30) 49,192: Toya (Nijisanji) Zatsudan with Slither.io
>31) 64,350: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic

> PER COMPANY
11x: Nijisanji
18x: Hololive
1x: VSPO
1: Indie

> PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
4x: Fuwa
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Salome
1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Suisei, Ramune, Oliver, Toko, Tsukasa Tenkai, Touya

>>32190100
Who knows? The earliest would be tomorrow for countdown or a frame to announce some kind of 3D Live if there's any.

>>32190067
Nijisanji should scrap that new batch then if it's true. Associating your brand to that flop is a losing move.

>>32189922
BRONZE
>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration
>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*
>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien
>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k
>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit
>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon
>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4
>19) 31,578: Marine (Hololive) Yukata 3D reveal
>20) 38,544: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #5
>21) 38,424: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>22) 30,659: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>23) 39,304: Koyori (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>24) 25,946: Suisei (Hololive) Gartic Phone
>25) 43,091: Petra (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>26) 37,334: Hal (Neo Porte) Neoporte quiz
>27) 40,308: Rosemi (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>28) 41,757: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>29) 41,845: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft summer festival
>30) 44,597: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>31) 28,912: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX

> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: Neo-Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Nijisanji, Marine, Miko, Pekora
2x: Shiina, Fuwa, Suisei, Subaru, Kuzuha
1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Hololive, Koyori, Petra, Hal, Rosemi

EN3 will save EN and reignite the passion for vtuber among the western sphere fans, Starting the 2nd HoloBoom more popular and viral than 2020

>>32189812
August SC

Group
>Luxiem $181,839
>Council $132,871
>Noctyx $98,926
>Tempus $85,105
>Myth $65,564
>ILUNA $54,856
>Obsydia $38,343
>LazuLight $33,990
>Ethyria $21,205
>Hope $18,889

total
>Nijisanji EN $429,159
>Hololive EN $217,324
>Holostars EN $85,105

>>32189772
Funnily enough, yes.

>>32189529
I think that's exactly it though, it's not like pre-Luxiem NijiEN was lighting up the world with big SC income. The only group of fans in NijiEN willing to put out the big bucks are the CN fujos, and Luxiem has a stranglehold on them.

>>32190127
That's why they're going the Gamer route. Unless they coomerbait again and dilute the fujo well but alas

>>32190275
But will they stream?

>>32190275
EN3 is never happening.

>>32189812
Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022
>>32140520
Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time
>>32144719

>>32190344
This nigger really lives in the thread for 16 hours a day huh

>>32190275
they will literally have management enforced "will collab with males and outsiders" in their debut

>>32190275
You and Riku should just debut as Vtubers and show your company how it's done

>>32190376
Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022
>>32140520
Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time
>>32144719

I find it strange that iluna has so much mention on /#/. They have no number to speak of. I don't know why they are getting this much attentions. Irrelevant chuuba with no number are usually forgotten in this thread, like kiara for example. Yet, this group seem to be so rent free in numberanon head, they can't stop talking about it, so much so to the point that even a chuuba from indie corp is getting frequent mention. This has rarely happened before.

>>32190329
do you see tempus ?
Cover learned their lesson after council and sana

>>32190436
shut the fuck up ESL

>>32190436
To be fair they’re underperforming even the more cynical expectations

I think people are seriously over estimating how much "normal" voice pekora would change things. Even when toned down the main complaints of her voice would still be present to a degree

>>32190452
I here you anon but those are males. Will they be able repeat that with females?

>>32190436
it's mostly nijinigger pushing their niji is inclinig narrativa and homobeggar using them as sign of success

>>32190452
Male > female
This has been established since the dawn of mankind

>>32190436
Because nijiniggers made a gazillion posts boasting about ilosers being the next luxiem that will bury HoloEN pre debut so it's funny to rub it in now that they are performing so poorly even tempus is killing them

>>32190452
>and sana
God I hope they dont hire someone with an impressive talent that doesnt want to use their talent. What in the absolute fuck were they thinking? They were getting another Marine?

>>32190436
They debuted to 80k viewers anon. They should've surpassed all the previous waves in some metric. HoloEN especially Council get as much scrutiny here as well

>>32190452
Anon Tempus came in expecting to have to grind and work hard, which they have for the most part.
HoloEN 3 will come in and just put in the same minimal effort job that Gura is doing since it's an easy paycheck and the fans don't mind.

"i won't go out and ask for collabs, but if they ask me I'll say yes 100% of the time" - Tempus

>>32190667
Which is why EN3 will not happen. It just does not make economical senss

>>32190644
Ina screwed up and recommended a friend who really shouldn't have been.

Tempus buck broken 80% of this board population i fucking kneel

>>32190644
They probably expected her to do drawing streams, i can only imagine what her manger was thinking when she then said that she was going to play kusoges and do astrology streams.

>>32190436
That's because discord said council fail so people want to see what success it.

>>32190685
Same with Kronii's stance so far so it's Bae/Mori's call on the EN side if they want another shitshow to happen.

>>32190436
When the heck was Kiara forgotten? She got shat on pretty frequently, too - less than Iluna, admittedly, but that's because most people outside of shitposters have given up on her numbers

>>32190436
Nijiniggers have been lying about their numbers for an entire year so you need to remind them how shit they actually are to prevent the thread from falling for nijiniggers lies.

>>32189812

>>32190781
thanks alot

>>32190284
It's over for holoEN..

>>32190766
Cope holobrony. Niji is bigger than your whorehouse.

>>32190827
Yeah selen is way bigger

>>32190747
I mean, that was Mori's highest viewed game stream in god knows how long, so of course it'll happen again. It's more like it's up to Kronii/Fauna/Mumei/Ina/Gura/Kiara/Ame&IRyS to decide if they want to collab or not. That's their choice.

>>32190753
The reason why this thread doesn't bring up Kiara often is because there isn't a contingent of KFP in this thread going "Kiara got 4k this stream, that means she's inclining. Soon she'll overtake pekora, cope and seethe nousakeks" or something along those lines, unlike nijiniggers who'd love for us to believe that nijisanji gets 60k every stream

>>32190890
Bigger than Polka?

>>32190909
Now that's a streaming idea
Polka vs Selen sumo wrestling

>>32190894
August total views

Individual
>Mori (Hololive) 13,502,493
------------------------------------------------------- 10M line
>Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) 9,802,397
>Gura (Hololive) 8,042,849
------------------------------------------------------- 7.5M line
>Luca (Nijisanji) 7,069,420
>Mysta (Nijisanji) 6,762,919
>Vox (Nijisanji) 6,544,552
------------------------------------------------------- 5M line
>Fauna (Hololive) 4,626,355
>Selen (Nijisanji) 4,604,843
>Bae (Hololive) 4,196,093
------------------------------------------------------- 4M line
>Ike (Nijisanji) 3,857,840
>Pomu (Nijisanji) 3,763,617
>Ren (Nijisanji) 3,741,969
>Shu (Nijisanji) 3,740,288
>Mumei (Hololive) 3,383,634
>Enna (Nijisanji) 3,339,848
>Kiara (Hololive) 3,236,162
>Elira (Nijisanji) 3,033,218
>IRyS (Hololive) 3,000,038
------------------------------------------------------- 3M line
>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,876,944
>Kronii (Hololive) 2,833,681
>Amelia (Hololive) 2,821,840
>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,816,645
>Ina (Hololive) 2,542,549
>Finana (Nijisanji) 2,398,105
>Luxiem Ch Official (Nijisanji) 2,295,007
>Millie (Nijisanji) 2,189,983
>Petra (Nijisanji) 2,150,060
>Scarle (Nijisanji) 2,132,744
>Nina (Nijisanji) 2,083,125
>Yugo (Nijisanji) 2,043,066
>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 2,040,229
------------------------------------------------------- 2M line
>Maria (Nijisanji) 1,955,693
>Noir (Holostars) 1,935,689
>Kyo (Nijisanji) 1,910,439
>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,649,795
>Regis (Holostars) 1,543,365
>Aster (Nijisanji) 1,483,797
>Magni (Holostars) 1,423,374
>Hololive English Official (Hololive) 1,378,577
>Sana (Hololive) 1,278,917
>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,237,217
>Axel (Holostars) 1,160,445
>Aia (Nijisanji) 1,036,292
------------------------------------------------------- 1M line
>Reimu (Nijisanji) 807,745
>Holostars English Official (Holostars) 151,418

Group
>Myth 30,145,893
>Luxiem 27,975,019
>Council 16,318,680
>ILUNA 12,260,934
>Noctyx 10,623,667
>LazuLight 9,194,940
>Obsydia 8,795,132
>Ethyria 8,420,701
>Tempus 6,062,873
>Hope 3,000,038

total
>Nijisanji EN 77,270,393 (With official ch 89,367,797)
>Hololive EN 49,464,611 (With official ch 50,843,188)
>Holostars EN 6,062,873 (With official ch 6,214,291)

>>32190890
Goompig and amelard is bigger

does EN3 is never happeningschizo ever sleep or is it a couple Niji interns taking shifts in this thread

>>32190909
>polka
>he doesn't know

What happened to Flare?

>>32190890
Selen's laughs are actually burps from overeating.

>>32190827
>bronies
i saved a picture for this occation. I'm waiting for this moment

people saying "EN3 will save HoloEN" when all 5 of them will be homobeggers on day one. i say save my most for future grudging but i know im right.

>>32191045
Same thing that happened to iroha

So this is dead hours?

>>32191064
Abayo Nigga wtf but tskr all the same

So what got the sisters seething enough to post porn?

>>32191076
Even if they try not to be the debut tourists will force it on them

>>32191076
they wont be held to the standards of pre-established unicorn fanbases formed before starsEN so you are probably right in that most if not all of EN3 will likely be rather open with starsEN collabs.

Keep the porn coming, I need to jack off right now

Did losing Koshien month after that huge lead finally break the sisters beyond repair?

>>32191153
There goes their numbers

>>32191076
I just want more girls who share Gura's idol dream + stream a lot. It's over for cgdct if suddenly there's 5 more who shares Mori and Bae's stance but instead of throwing a bone, they go full in

>>32190983
>Holofans: spend hours of their day making high quality oc and games out of love for their oshi
>Nijifans: spend hours of their day putting down their company's competition to make their oshi look better.

Damn, must be a rough day if Sora is getting egged on.

>>32190127
Good way to show you dont watch anything. Scarle have done streams that no one have done before in Nijisanji

>>32191132
if one of them is based enough to say: "I will never collab with males" then she will become the biggest of her gen kek

>>32191246
>scarle
>handcam streams
>no one has done before in nijisanji

>>32191206
they still have the blue dorito and if english stars can crank out 2-4k those girls will be fine.

>Axel joining Hal custom
>Magni participating in an event hosted by Scarra of OTV
It looks like StarsEN is using the same strat used by StarsJP. They're really having the best of both world: Stepping one foot in the Holobox while the other foot is in the outside collab thing.

This thread thinking anycolor think Iluna is a failure when to them its obviously a success as all reached 200k already

Is Pekora's average viewership the highest among female streamers?

>>32191282
look at what she has done as handcam stream and see if other nijisanji have done it before. No one did painting streams, or science streams.

>>32190894
She literally had more viewers on her Rust stream yesterday. Plus do you really think someone who will be going on 5 Live a Live streams cares about their CCV?

>>32191206
Male collabs have never hurt any holo's numbers, holoJPs like Sora and Fubuki or ENs like Mori or Kronii have seen zero impact and even thrived.

>>32191342
Lower than Gura so no.

>>32191304

>>32191086
Iroha recovered in under a day, though.

Orobetai Niji clip views are surpassing Sushi and Vtuber Tengoku Holo clip views now. What went right with him despite his menhera outbursts?

>>32191320
most of Iluna is doing well so i think they think its a success.

>>32191304
Risu....

>>32191203
God I wish that'd be enough to break them permanently but you know full well that all it takes is for nijien to have one good day and the sisters will be back trying to pretend that nijien has a 50k floor

>>32191342
If I remember, lsf people usually point Poki as the Marine of the female streamers(high ccv low volume streamer). And her average is 20k.

>>32191342
yeah, she is the top female streamers by all means. if she was on twitch she would frequent top 1 when xqc is not online

>>32191320
>The year is 2022
>subs cope and VODs cope are now the domain of nijisanji
>meanwhile hololive is using merch cope
History is a repeating, endless waltz.

>>32191304
>kaela has nearly 1mil hours watched
I… I kneel, gamer hag

>>32191407
unironically this thread should sub to oboretai to see the nijijp-nijien translations he does

>>32191407
>No proof

>>32191452
That's an exagerration but it's possible since Jp hours are usually dead hours(Unless if Train/xqc/asmon/adin/Kai are streaming).

>>32191320
Nijiniggers think cover thinks Council is a failure when they mog luxiem so of course they'd think that a group that can't even break 2k for most streams is a failure

>>32191490
Why would any of us need to see that? What's relevant about them?

>>32191490
unironically you should suck my fucking dick anon.

>>32191476
Nijisanji is also dominating China as well. They seem to learn a lot from Hololive eraly year and the result is starting to show.

watchtime

January
>ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)

February
>NIJISANJI EN 3,972,676 (1264.1時間, 336枠, 平均3,143人) Nijisanji EN (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,021,167 (439.3時間, 146枠, 平均6,878人) Hololive EN (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)

March
>NIJISANJI EN 6,283,717 (1892.4時間, 514枠, 平均3,320人) Nijisanji EN (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 4,907,065 (615.4時間, 180枠, 平均7,974人) Hololive EN (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)

April
>NIJISANJI EN 6,449,716 (1983.9時間, 503枠, 平均3,251人) Nijisanji EN (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,886,364 (529.2時間, 177枠, 平均7,344人) Hololive EN (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)

July
>NIJISANJI EN 6,285,678
>ホロライブEnglish 4,066,096

>>32191374
sora will never hurt with numbers because she doesn't have numbers to lose. kronii didn't thrive or got anything out of the collab.

>>32191513
top 1 on twitch is 54k right now
there's 0 females near pekora on all of twitch

>>32191585
I find it weird how they put Sora on the pedestal when she was only a footnote during the Four Kings era.

>>32191304
Goes to show how the latest NijiEN flopped so hard. They couldn't even beat Iofi who consistently streams debuff games.

>>32191601
Gura exist you monkey if gura stream on twitch she will get the highest ccv for female streamer.

>>32191320
Yeah, i agree. I mostly watch hololive, but iluna is a success. Tempus WISH they can get 200k thay early

>>32191649
copium

August total views

Individual
>Mori (Hololive) 13,502,493
------------------------------------------------------- 10M line
>Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) 9,802,397
>Gura (Hololive) 8,042,849
------------------------------------------------------- 7.5M line
>Luca (Nijisanji) 7,069,420
>Mysta (Nijisanji) 6,762,919
>Vox (Nijisanji) 6,544,552
------------------------------------------------------- 5M line
>Fauna (Hololive) 4,626,355
>Selen (Nijisanji) 4,604,843
>Bae (Hololive) 4,196,093
------------------------------------------------------- 4M line
>Ike (Nijisanji) 3,857,840
>Pomu (Nijisanji) 3,763,617
>Ren (Nijisanji) 3,741,969
>Shu (Nijisanji) 3,740,288
>Mumei (Hololive) 3,383,634
>Enna (Nijisanji) 3,339,848
>Kiara (Hololive) 3,236,162
>Elira (Nijisanji) 3,033,218
>IRyS (Hololive) 3,000,038
------------------------------------------------------- 3M line
>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,876,944
>Kronii (Hololive) 2,833,681
>Amelia (Hololive) 2,821,840
>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,816,645
>Ina (Hololive) 2,542,549
>Finana (Nijisanji) 2,398,105
>Luxiem Ch Official (Nijisanji) 2,295,007
>Millie (Nijisanji) 2,189,983
>Petra (Nijisanji) 2,150,060
>Scarle (Nijisanji) 2,132,744
>Nina (Nijisanji) 2,083,125
>Yugo (Nijisanji) 2,043,066
>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 2,040,229
------------------------------------------------------- 2M line
>Maria (Nijisanji) 1,955,693
>Noir (Holostars) 1,935,689
>Kyo (Nijisanji) 1,910,439
>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,649,795
>Regis (Holostars) 1,543,365
>Aster (Nijisanji) 1,483,797
>Magni (Holostars) 1,423,374
>Hololive English Official (Hololive) 1,378,577
>Sana (Hololive) 1,278,917
>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,237,217
>Axel (Holostars) 1,160,445
>Aia (Nijisanji) 1,036,292
------------------------------------------------------- 1M line
>Reimu (Nijisanji) 807,745
>Holostars English Official (Holostars) 151,418

Group
>Myth 30,145,893
>Luxiem 27,975,019
>Council 16,318,680
>ILUNA 12,260,934
>Noctyx 10,623,667
>LazuLight 9,194,940
>Obsydia 8,795,132
>Ethyria 8,420,701
>Tempus 6,062,873
>Hope 3,000,038

total
>Nijisanji EN 77,270,393 (With official ch 89,367,797)
>Hololive EN 49,464,611 (With official ch 50,843,188)
>Holostars EN 6,062,873 (With official ch 6,214,291

>>32191563
>Watch time

>>32191373
retard

>>32191649
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>32191407
This is an image board anon. Go ahead and make a nice collage and put in some effort for your bait.

>>32191653
> I mostly watch hololive, but

>>32191307
I can’t wait for TEMPUS to start questing all the Twitch Vtuber thots

>>32190909
Polka, unfortunately, is fit now

>>32188581
>Axel will have a bad ping again
I don't think so, assuming that they will use a JP server.
My guess on why he has always a high ping during streams is that he played using the NA server. It just can't be helped, probably unless you use the Elon internet.

why tempus still hasnt reached 200k while all iluna have? why nijien has more growth in subs than holoen and starsen?

>>32191762
I can't wait for TEMPUS to copy Mizkhif's strategy and just bring Onlyfans whores in their stream for more viewership.

>>32191694
Huh could have sworn it was lower my mistake. Either way she got a bigger number on her Rust stream last week where she got 14.5k. The whole premise is dumb anyway because it relies on a Myth actively chasing numbers.

>>32191799
Thats because iluna is a success and this thread likes to undermine their achievements.

>>32191743
Lol we all know thai posters don't know how to post images

>weak baits all around
>samefagging because no (you)s
Sisters please, at least get creative

>>32191859
And she got 17k playing golf with Vesper. The point is, Mori and Bae will keep collabing with Tempus. The other girls can decide if they want to join in or not.

>>32191823
What if Tempus copies Roberu and start building a harem of chuubas from small companies?

>>32191893
Yeah achievements of squandering the biggest debut buff nijisanji had

>>32191932
They are actually butthurt about iluna being a flop holy shit

>>32191967
This image paints a better image for Scarle and Aster honestly. They're sub 2k shitters along with Aia and Maria.

>>32191941
The other girls won't be able to stay away when they see the numbers, especially the numberfags like Kiara and the holoJP girls.

>>32192013
>flop
>has more subs than all tempus while tempiss still hasnt reached even 150k
ogey

>>32191234
As they say, ask a holofan who their oshi is and they'll send you a few clip to start off
Ask a niji fan who their oshi is and they'll start by telling you how much better they are than hololive

>>32192030
nigga everyone in iLuna is a 3view now

>people are saying mooms hated the male collab with zoombie and rat
what? then why did she join it? you sure she isn't mad she she couldn't understand or talk to them in japanese?

>>32191951
You think western twoviews can get away with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0kpsu26TiM

>>32192054
The mere fact that you're comparing them to tempus means they are complete flops, yes.

>>32191743
>>32191491
not him but here are oboretai most viewed clips

>>32192030
It does but it needed to be as close to the month mark as I can get it otherwise it opens nijiniggers to use the >cherrypicking argument

>>32192083
i only recognize 6 of these 9 how did Phase Connect win

>>32190275
they need new management first

>>32192132
>>32191743
>>32191491
part 2

>>32191951
Axel is literally a harem protagonist though. I don't get what these girls like about dumb airheads

>>32191967
What a fuckin waste. Why can't people leave identity politics behind? I swear it does no good to Nijisanji brand.

>>32192192
went from 3 10k chuubas to 1 10k chuuba this month, holoEN is reclining

>>32192101
you compare them all the time faggot

>>32192081
She was just awkward and weird due to not speaking Japanese, but Mumei being awkward and weird is not unique to that particular collab.

>>32192054
You should've said 151k to reek of more desperation since you're already factually incorrect

>>32192054
Aia put down the phone and reflect on what to do to gain traction.

>>32192153
4vlive, heaven rend and Amber glow are literal who companies. Cyberlive no longer exists and from the looks of things tsunderia is looking to join them soon, and myholo never really recovered from losing their entire second gen at once. So it's really just the phase/prism/kawaii show as far as en small companies are concerned

Amelia is streaming... again?

>>32192214
He's a himbo
Same reason even though people hate NijiEN, I rarely hear anything bad about Luca

>>32191967
Iluna makes Noctyx look like Sankisei with how badly they performed numberwise.

>>32192291
She had a rust stream scheduled for 12:30 tomorrow afternoon but it must have been an accident. Which makes sense, she had me second-guessing myself that the war is tonight.

>>32192199
>those titles
dang i wonder why

>>32192292
yeah those were the 3 i didnt recognize, i know Cyberlive imploded and Tsunderia was basically on life support with their newest auditions maybe being their last shot at life.

isn't this kinda pathetic for both EN?
what happened with EN in general?

>>32192083
Everyone in that list other than Kawaii (male collab ban) can do that, yes.

>>32192254
Because you're losing against a group that you should've no problems winning against. Next time don't pick a fight against a child and nobody will mock you when the child mops the floor with you so hard you need to cope with sub count.

>>32192291
Rust yeah. We'll get to see EN's participation in the war through her so check it out

>>32192081
she probably just couldn't understand them, also mumei never talks in big collabs ever

>>32192329
Luca is a good boi vox is and mysta are the ones giving luxiem a bad name

>>32192214
>No HoloEn grifter
>Sora
Based girls with based taste

>>32192101
Niji fans doomposting Tempus backfired lmao.

>>32189889
wtf amelia spoiling EN3?

Looks like HoloEN is getting invited to more conventions later this year if what the members have been hinting

>>32192372
4vlive is mostly famous around these parts for debuting their first gen on the same weekend as fat dragon and Co, Amber glow is the company that terumi used to belong to and that's really their only claim to fame, and I know nothing about heavensrend other than the name and that they used to have threads over here, but it seems to have gone the same way as the salome general so.

>>32192393
>kawaii
>male collab ban
not true. they can collab with males as long as there's more girls in the collab than males. no 1 on 1 collabs.
t. used to watch charzu and the others

>>32192199
So basically only two Niji clips from the past 5 months has gotten above 200k views?

>>32192562
don't give me hope

>>32192083
Kawaii bans male collabs

>>32192572
What are the next US/CAN/Korean/AUS weeb cons on the schedule? Is there a New York one coming up?

>>32192382
Seafriends have school again anon

>>32192382
Council decided to see what Myth could do, and well, as you can see it's not much.

>>32192382
Don't worry. Milord will save EN vtubing with is solid streams on CN primetime.

>>32192604
>they can collab with males as long as there's more girls in the collab than males. no 1 on 1 collabs.
thats not a bad ruleset

>>32192562
>>32192634
You wish Ryeschizo. Even NijiEN is better than whatever startup corpo she'll be duped in

>>32192382
Ame may hit 10k. She is spamming content today, huh?

august https://files.catbox.moe/fg7hzc.png
average-2022 https://files.catbox.moe/ksqxwh.png

>>32192647
China school holiday is over btw.

.t someone who has mainlander friend

>>32192382
Myth is not the number 1 EN gen anymore anon.

Ame all out war. Rastis rastis rariririra

>>32192729
With every passing day, and every debut that isn't her, the chances of Rye's ascension to HoloEN grow stronger. The latest estimates from our experts have her at a 74% chance of being in EN3.

>>32192710
yeah, but most of the girls don't do collabs that much anyway except reina but it's always big collabs with 10+ people. charzu only collabs with her corpo mates and that's like a rare thing.

Ame is occupying all the slots and btfoing all the NijiEN girls in the cripple tally

Rye seems to have decent enough talent to enter EN3. But her background seems to be too yabai to handle.

>>32192917
Selen mogged 3/4 of her streams today so far fag

OWAKON DETECTIVE DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>32192604
Can anyone imagine how peaceful this board would be if hololive was this transparent?

>>32192921
and Noel's background isn't yabai?

>>32192921
Hololive doesn't care who you were. It cares who you could become.

>>32192935
I know Selen can pull her own weight around. That doesn't meat the other shitters don't get slaughted

>>32189132
I were talking about the MV

>rye shilling themselves here again
kill yourself 2view

>>32192975
>if holoEN management were that strategic?
fixed, dramafags would look for something else but at least male/female bullshit would be put to bed. Also, no more worrying about HoloEN slowly transforming into NIjiEN.

>>32192917
it's gonna be like this every wednesdays for a while
it's her trade-off for no streams on monday-tuesday

>>32193052
You will feel ashamed of your words & deeds.

>>32190275
EN3 WILL revitalize HoloEN as a whole, but not for the reasons you think.

There are currently a significant set of people that got introduced to VTubing thanks to Holofes - long after Council debut - who have a hard time fitting in with the community because they have a lot more in-jokes nowadays. A new viewer isn't going to understand what a "Gosling" means, or what "tee tee" means, or what "off collab" means right off the bat. Sure, these are much simpler concepts and can be easily explained, but they're so embedded in the VTuber lexicon that there are people who have trouble with it, especially those who don't have the time to watch everyone.
There's also a lot of people who slowly drifted off the EN VTubing after several big name EN projects fells off : Stuff like Holotalk, Mythbreakers, Ame VR etc. are things that those people will still tune into, but those are feeling "dry" after having a content drought in the EN sphere for a while.
And of course there's a lot of tourists who know of Hololive but have never really checked them out in earnest.
All 3 of these groups will be the potential viewerbase of EN3, and as long as at least TWO of them have some form of niche that's not there in the EN scene, or have some innovative ideas during debut, EN VTubing will be set for at least another half year more.

But wait, there's more.
A lot of people feel that Council is "lazy" or "haven't contributed anything" which is an argument that has some merit, as most of them are just solid, consistent streamers, but haven't really bought anything NEW in terms of content, storyline or innovation. They're "resting on their laurels" as people say.
Also they came after Myth who were pioneers of the scene, and so naturally they would already know that they wouldn't be able to exceed the expectations placed on them. Putting that high of a bar on people usually ends with them just saying "fuck it" and withdrawing from even competing.
EN3 would be the first time they actually have some competition from within. Despite the friendly vibes, at the end of the day people within the BOX are competing for at least a baseline audience of the same people (barring their niche audiences). And considering what happened with JP Gen5 when HoloX came into the scene, I can also see a lot of current council fans checking out the new hires, and some even being tempted by them. Hell, if EN3 has enough talented folks, you could even see this leakage happening from Myth.

THIS ALONE will be the biggest motivator the ENs. There are of course some who may just dig themselves deeper and not care, but I believe losing their viewership will light a fire in at least SOME of them, and motivation is one of the most important ingredients needed for Kino.
THIS is how EN3 will revitalize HoloEN.

>>32192081
It’s hooman cope/ shitposters trying to keep Mumei in their idol v whore narrative.

>>32192366
Bros they are seething about us again

Are there any small EN corpos that follow the idol path? Does the idol path require a lot of money to pursue?

>>32192935
She only mogs one of her streams without the help of Shu.

>>32193114
someone summarize this text for me. currently jerking off to new Comic Lo

>>32193142
Isegye Idol. Go look them up on twitch albeit, they mog Vshoujo now

>>32193164
>new Comic Lo
Link

>RUST
>7k
I think it's over for holoEN

>>32193143
kek

Ame rising to 9k once again, jesus this woman

>>32192132
>>32192199
Sashimi clips most popular

>>32193196
>>32193209
The duality of numbers

>>32192758
but but but graduate kiara and mori!

>>32193143
>The numberfags over at /#/ are basically the vtuber equivalent of those people who think the 2020 election was stolen because they feel it in their heart to be true despite all of reality saying otherwise.

>You can't get through to them that Hololive is not the largest vtuber company, because whatever numbers disagree with their preconceived conclusion will be written off as "bots" or "tax evasion" or "youtube glitches" and any disagreement is thoroughly drowned out by their inevitable tantrum of "muh nijibots".
>They specifically decided to only count ccv as the metric that matters because by any other metric Hololive loses. Whether it's total channel views or recent vod views or merch sales or revenue or net profit, all those things are conveniently ignored in that general since they don't favor Hololive and never will.

>All this wouldn't really be that big a deal, they're just autistic children living in their delusional fantasy circlejerk, something autists are prone to do, but the fact they constantly spam the catalog with completely fictional garbage as part of some "holy war" against Nijisanji is really fucking pathetic.
THIS IS WHAT NIJINIGGERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>32191304
Myth really is carried by Gura huh
3 of them below the weakest Council

>>32192758
for all the credit people give fauna for being hardworking having the same amount of streams as mumei isn't a good look

>>32193142
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/productionkawaii/make-the-vtuber-group-kawaii-a-3d-idol/

>>32193209
The way she streams seems designed to lose audiences, with her turning streams on and off and a superchat reading in the middle

>>32193216
Notice the date, most of Orobetai's highest viewed clips are from this year while Sashimi, Suhsi and Vtuber Tengoku's clips are from 1-2 years ago.
Say what you will about that guy but he is one of the biggest pillars of Nijisanji YT algo dominance.

>>32193296
>he bought the sapling psyop

>>32193216

>>32192921
Pekora's NND days were far worse anon.
People can change when they get into Hololive, and have a somewhat safe blanket warming them up during the cold.

>>32193307
Jesus, it makes me realize how filthy loaded Cover is when they can afford new 3D models every single year, as well as new 3D backgrounds for the members.

>>32193143
They are delusional

>>32193296
Mumei had a pretty good month. She'll be going back to school though so that amount of stream time is over.

>>32193307
i can tell you for a fact that they have huge paypigs. one of them donated 1k to their streamlabs just to hear the donation sound kek. /pkg/ and their regulars really keeps them afloat

>>32193307
>average backer contributed 400 USD
oil barons of Kawaii productions....

>>32193164
tldr
#1 : A large audience knows of Hololive but haven't dived in due to being unable to fit in or being unable to follow chuubas from the start.
This + those who slowly dropped off from EN are a big potential audience for EN3.
#2 : Council will have people leaving them for the new hires if they're interesting enough, which will (hopefully) cause them to get motivated again.

>>32193446
300* i fucking fatfingered

has cripple anon tally been dead for the past few days or what

>>32193446
isn't one of them like real strong gfe? the nun looking one

>>32193508
Nene? Yeah, it’s also why she’s the top dog of KawaiiPro

If, and that's a big if, HoloEN3 gets announced right in September, would it work with two HoloEN gens having the same anniversary month?

>>32191476
Don't forget SC cope is also in the Niji wheelhouse now when "they're ethots preying in lonely men" used to be the Nijicope for why Holos got huge SC numbers.
It's wild how things have reversed.

I don't even mind because I agree with 2020 Nijifans when they said "Spending money on merch is better than SC" and there's a lot of holo merch these days.

>>32193507
NijiEN girls started to appear on the list semifrequently and he dabbled with the idea of increasing the cap to 7.5k minimum and realized most of holoEN girls wouldnt even hit the list anymore at that and just gave up.

>>32191304
Go Kaela Go

>>32193396
It's what having dedicated 3d staff on payroll gets you.

>>32193543
The logical time to do it is towards the end of September, early October is open and a decent time for events

>>32193548
That just means next year will be Nijisanji's year when Genshin finally put Luxiem in their game.

>>32193351
I like the I'm not fat clip
it made fat gura tail canon. Lots of fanart

>>32193396
Kawaii need to get into the merch game

>>32193543
If its in the tail end of September? Maybe, there's a big empty spot between the 17th and 31st where nothing much is happening event wise for Holo.
It'd still be a pretty close thing though

>>32192329
Himbos are yab-prone, see Luca with the bgm "scandal", but it's hard to attribute malice to them when it's likely stupidity.
Axel will definitely yab at some point, but I'll chalk it up to him being dumb.

>>32193595
NIJISANJI SUPERPOWER 2023

>>32193618
3 weeks diff between council and myth, so if they want to do minimum 3 week diff for EN3 assuming thats even happening anytime soon would be October 3rd

>>32193615
they should set their bar lower for new outfits first. they get a new one at 100k and only ONE person got that amount

>>32193647
he did himbo yab alaready he played the wrong hitman game for an hour

>>32191304
graduate the useless phoenix

After yagoo has realize that
>actual quality female streamer are hard to find now
>any good one are already been snatched by other corps
>male are actually more entertaining and better streamer than females
>has larger supply of it, unlikely to dry out any moment soon
Yagoo has decided for EN, they will have males debuting as girl using voice changer. Their talents blow any existing females out of the water and most importantly, they will do GFE.

>>32193507
Wasn't he just on around 6 pm PST but was malding over Altares 11+ hour stream?

>>32193356
>People can change when they get into Hololive
I remember people used to say this about Rushia

>>32193674
QRD?

>>32193688
The funny thing about this is that hololive probably has one of the larger talent pools because they do not limit themselves to established talents or vtubers.

>>32193688
The tech's not that good yet unfortunately. Everyone can tell.

>>32193647
Didn’t Luca have that one yab related to his totally-not-his-girlfriend mod?

>>32193668
New outfit is 50k. 100k was originally the 3D model requirement but since the Kickstarter passed all of gen 1 and gen 2 will get 3D models.

>>32193674
He doxxed himself as well and put his Roomate Vtuber name from his Raft collab. That was a week or so since their debut

>>32190436
>This has rarely happened before.
It happened in this thread one time before: Ethyria debut and mega debut first few weeks.

It happened for the exact same reason: it is as amusing to watch someone like Salome to exceed all expectations as it is to watch iLUNA to crash and burn.

“Dog bites man” isn’t a major story, “man bites dog” is. The largest debut of a major branch turning 3 views in less than a month is “man chases dog, bites it, look at the camera and winks”

>>32193753
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Me70r2M0Lak
this stream, he played the wrong hitman game they did NOT get perms for. privated now

>>32193543
Yes, they should try to fit all Holopro gen debuts within the same month. Imagine the marketing in a few years "HOLOEN MONTH: every week a new HoloEN anniversary "

Koyorichama liked manga from antithread..
https://i.imgur.com/ho3hjkZ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/FjXhWj0.jpeg

>>32193764
Kek, look at Iluna and see how shitty the "outside vtubing" talent pool is

Can't wait for new council outfits to get mogged by obsydia.

>>32193753
Hitman 2 has a different publisher from the first one which he played.

>>32193805
dumb fucking dog

>>32170201
Hey don't feel too bad, it gave us absolute comedy like this >>32193143

>>32193543
the right schedule for EN 3 should be late October since on paper there are no other big events happening in Oct except Halloween (optional) and Sport festival 体育大会

>>32188565
She should make some MVs for her existing songs so she can put them on her channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOMj4x2VVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tc8hTqq46w

>>32193719
Hey, she managed to do things fine for 2 years.

Since I have absolutely nothing better to do I decided to check how many new songs made it to the Top 200 Holo songs, at first I was going to count the songs released during the past year but then decided to just count the ones released since IRyS debut

Video used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsbofZPNCM&t

Songs released between 7/11/2021 to 8/3/2022
Total new entries on that period: 71
Entry point for the list: 2M views


Holo:new entries:Originals:covers(solo or group)

Suisei: 17-5-12
Mori: 12-7-5
Shion: 5-1-4
Marine: 4-2-2
Fubuki: 4-1-3
Towa: 4-1-3
Aqua: 4-1-3
Moona: 4-1-3
Ayame: 3-1-2
Gura: 3-1-2
Ina: 3-1-2
Okayu: 3-0-3
Kanata: 2-1-1
Mio: 2-1-1
Pekora: 2-0-2
Laplus: 2-0-2
Lui: 2-0-2
Reine: 2-0-2
Holos with one entry: Miko, AZKi, Subaru, Korone, Rushia, Flare, Watame, Botan, Lamy, Polka, Koyori, Kiara, Mumei, Bae, Risu and Kobo

Besides IRyS, Ame, Fauna, Kronii and Sana are the EN with no entries on the list

>>32193844
Unlike nijisanji, cover has more criteria in their scouting team than "big past life members."

>>32193842
You know she just scrolled through her art tag and liked everything without actually looking at any of it

>>32193907
Mori please put out more covers.

>>32193951
HoloX, ID3 and Tempus beg to differ

>>32193865
Late October is no good, Halloween is a big thing in EN. Everyone will be doing handcam shit, playing horror games, doing karaokes, etc. Lots of special streams culminating in a vrchat 3d. Nobody is going to take it well if management tries to trample all over that with a debut week, plus the new debutantes could benefit from actually getting to be in that stuff if they debut earlier.

>>32193981
she does that alot i remember early on she liked (and unliked shortly after) an image of herself but her vials on her belt were replaced with filled condoms

>>32189922
wtf is that tally? is this the shortsest recorded tally ever?

>>32193845
>if x happens
>when x happens
>x will happen
>once x happens
>eventually x will happen
>can't wait until x happens

>>32194030
CCVID newfriend....

>>32193996
Mori has the talent.. RN all she need is mental support. Hope myth realize this.

>>32193842
Translation onegai

>>32194009
The fuck are you talking about, 3/4 of tempus were 2views, 2/3 of id3 have never streamed before joining hololive, and 3/5 of holox were 2views

ame 9k, get 10k whore so your branch appears on the tally at least even if its with the fotm gigabuff game

>>32194106
she won't, ame is a failure

>>32193907
>17 songs in 13 months
Suzy I kneel

>>32194030
No Hologirl streamed aside from Pink Wamy and not a lot or Niji gets above 5k much more 10 to get in the tally

>>32194009
Did you respond to the wrong post?

How does Ame manage to get almost 10k during dead hours?

>>32193842
https://twitter.com/gK24E08y6FDOi9f/status/1556124622969774080
This is about that fucking Niji dog vtuber isn't it? Of course.

>>32194104
>2/3 of id3 have never streamed before joining hololive
Kaela's roommate had over 450k subs and streamed, unless you're talking about Zeta.

>>32193996
Probably would rather focus on orisongs at this point, so they own the IP, can put them on albums, can sing them in concerts and karaokes, etc.
Covers just cost money and can't really bring in any revenue, they're just for fun as a treat for your fans or to build exposure and mindchair.

>>32194146
Don't you have an essay to write about how the evil numberfags are out to get you.

>>32193951
council exists.
>1 mil sub youtuber
>300k sub memelord
>100k sub asmr
>artist that worked on shit like fgo before
bae is the only one that wasn't huge

>>32194100
Mori is the most mentally stable she’s ever been.

>>32194103
hours streamed
Ayame 0 hours
La+ 8 hours
Aqushion 7/3 hours

KOYORI 157 HOURS

>>32194210
learned their lesson, need to hire someone who will be grateful for the opprotunity and put in the effort to earn their place. and maybe not have myth to tell them to take it easy

>>32194100
>all she need is mental support
I can point out some people in holoEN that really needs that instead of her.

>>32194016
So, either early October or early November?
Either before Halloween stuff really kicks off or a few weeks after.

Now that I think about it, they could even take advantage of Halloween, and make EN3 horror-themed (ghost girl, vampire,...).

>>32194287
There is a reason why 2views are 2views anon, they fucking suck at entertaining viewers. Say what you will about getting people with a built-in audience, but they have proven to be used to engaging viewers.

>>32194345
Vesper was a 2view and hes fantastic for starsEN currently.

>>32194345
>Say what you will about getting people with a built-in audience, but they have proven to be used to engaging viewers.
Ironic because a bunch of old wolfychu viewers say they can't watch Ren, because they can't unhear him after listening to him for years under a different persona.
I'm not sure if that was the result Anycolor was expecting when they got a 1.2 mil content creator.

>>32194189
Kaela has like five roommates, I'm not believing anything unless there's actual proof

>>32194210
Shachimu isn't even at a million anymore

Ame 10k I guess

Why are you guys so adamant in wishing for EN3? Is HoloEN really in that bad of a shape? I would rather see Council and Myth juice up and get their act together.

>>32194543
wtf is this argument, that doesn't change the fact that they hired her when she was at a million subs

>>32194106
Maybe she should stream minecraft instead

>>32194445
I hope they weren't expecting him to try to pump and dump the contract to attempt to revive his channel after 1 year. Thankfully the viewership correctly identified how fucking boring he is and now he's stuck begging and leeching while there are still remnants of shiny new toy smell on him

>>32194546
NIjiseethe

Some of the EN girls will stream their POV of the war. Ame will stream hers on twitch

>>32193996
Too busy pushing shit on her RM. Yea, she put out a cover on her RM. This shift in activity is a large part why I've dropped her completely whereas before I'd at least check her stuff out.

>>32194546
>Council and Myth juice up and get their act together
They have a whole year to do that, if Hololive keep waiting for older gen to "get their act together" they will never debut a new gen

>>32194546
There has never been a new Hololive Gen that hasn't improved the branch in some way or form.
Doesn't matter how good Myth and Council are, we need EN3.

ame and mori might stream their rust total war pov on twitch

>>32194185
kek it's sad and funny at the same time.

>>32193842
It's gone now, I guess she noticed it.

>>32194345
>There is a reason why 2views are 2views anon, they fucking suck at entertaining viewers.
That is not exactly true. Bad marketing can also cause that.
Also, the avatar fit can make or break you. Goblina could blow up if she has the Aia design.

>>32194609
She put out that cover on her roommate because she tried to release it as Mori and got rejected by management.

>>32194185
What does Shiba have anything to do with Miko? They're not from the same company

Why the fuck is baelz an hour later than other rust streams.

>>32194016
In an ideal world, they drop en3 at the start of October and then cut their collab ban short by ONE week so that they can join in sportsfes and Halloween.
>But Anon, myth didn't join sportsfes in their first year!
Yea yea, but that was a much different time, and Myth, being part of a BRAND NEW BRANCH that hadn't integrated into Hololive as a whole yet didn't really have a lot of anchor points to the JP side yet. Having En3 join in to sportfes would be a great way of introducting the newbies to Hololive as a whole, now that they have two other gens before them to help smooth things over.

>>32194546
New blood, brings new energy and dynamics to the branch, also we don't have enough coverage sometimes so there's money on the table. Possible expansion into new audiences if they find talents with new niches.
Competition from shiny new girls reinvigorates their senpai, gets them to up their game and can shake off some complacency

>>32194609
She put out the cover on her rm because cover couldn't get her the permissions to, it was the same thing she almost did with her roki cover before cover pulled through at the last minute

>>32194684
>Goblina could blow up if she has the Aia design.
Everyone talks about Scarle's design, but Aia's model is lowkey sex and has GFE potential.
What a goddamn waste.

>>32194699
they used to collab a lot. back when miko was a 3views

>>32194588
twice now that cover and niji respectively have hired a 1 mil sub animation focused channel with both of them being the most boring vtubers i have ever seen

>>32194699
They used to collab a lot but then stopped so nijiniggers use it to post about how evil Miko is and that she backstabbed her friend or something.

I thought Rust war was for HoloJP only? Why are Bae, Ame and Mori deciding to join?

>>32194698
>>32194744
Well fuck me, guess that's a fair a reason as any. I've stopped paying attention to her streams outside of collabs, so yea egg on my face.

>>32194185
Why do Niji members and fans keep on expecting Holo girls to throw them a bone like with collabs and stuff? Don't they have a group too to handle their needs?

>>32194795
no, it's open for all
kiara will be on too

So who else will be streaming rust later? I wanna know how many rust streams will be going later.

>>32194699
They used to collab a lot back when Hololive was a dominant group in China. It's a big mistake for Nijisanji to stonewall Hololive for the yab I feel.

>>32194795
Did you hear that from the voices in your head?

>>32194795
Maybe go watch streams instead of thread reading?

>>32194877
rustrustrustrustrustrust

>>32194913
And it was a good idea, looking at how Nijisanji is thriving in China right now. Shiba can easily collab with much better talents than"sexual harrasser" Miko

>>32191304
>>32191383
Still can't believe we live in a world where the Tempus boys will likely all be 2k+ avg in the future whereas 4/6 in iLUNA are closer to 3view than 2k for most of their streams.
Ren has over 200k more subs than everyone in Tempus but he has a real chance of having a lower avg in Sept than everyone in Tempus.

Just wow.

>>32194724
That would be terrible. They cannot develop their own fanbase that way. Did you see how Iluna imploded so quick?

>>32194790
Niji management is fucking stupid. Their most relevant talents now were those that didn't comply with them to not collab with Holo girls.

>>32194877
frames that are up so far:
Miko
Koyori
Matuli
Roboco
Kanatan
Peko
Kiara
Bae

have mentioned it but no frame yet:
Mori
Kaela
Ame

>>32195021
200k > 150k

Ame 10k

Will BigFish show up for Rust today?

>>32195028
Dumbass, that's why Hololive has that one-month collab ban thing

>>32195072
Almost certainly yes. She probably won't stream her POV though.

toook no overlap rust for an en 10k jesus

>>32194778
Shiba could have been Toko, leeching off of her genmates and Miko. She made the mistake of ghosting Miko as per the management orders and look at her career now.

>>32195097
Its 5AM in the morning and its a preparation stream

>>32195028
>then cut their collab ban short by ONE week so that they can join in sportsfes and Halloween.
Can you not read? The collab ban will still be a thing and you're really oversimplifying why iLUNA failed if you're just attributing it to early collabs.

>>32195097
There is no 10k from niji side so far though and everyone's ccv is kinda low today.
Maybe the end of summer break effect the numbers?

Between today and Sep 9th, Niji better pumps out some buff content because HoloCure updates are getting closer

>>32194185
Shiba's case is one of the examples why it's not good business to alienate potential viewers especially those that come from Hololive.
Pippa made the right choice of defending Hololive and shitting up on Nijisanji. Her inclining numbers speak for itself

>>32194286
>>32194103
More importantly it's bringing up their roommate fanbox accounts and how they're making money without streaming.
And it's basically calling Koyori an ugly old hag who is jealous of the younger girls who have cuter voices and get to hang out with all their friends and that Koyori is now thinking about going to Disneyland with a guy to feel young again.

>>32195097
everyone is going back to school

>>32195235
What did Shiba do towards holo viewers?

>>32195239
Man, that's fucking mean-spirited.

>>32195028
Iluna flopped because they went too hard with the coombaiting.

>>32195048
I sure hope that most of 200k are not dead subs and will actually show up during streams.

>>32195239
Lol.

>>32195028
Reread. Shortening it by a week at most, similar to how holoX had theirs shortened by one week so they could join in on new years collabs and stuff.

Lack siblings(- Flare) cover
https://youtu.be/8I-ynIOAl30

>>32195072
Yes, but I don't think she's gonna put up a POV, she sounded like she wouldn't in the earlier members stream.

>>32195048
Ren is at 327k actually, which is almost 200k more.
That's why it's hilarious

>>32195028
Anon holox had the exact same thing so they could take part in the Christmas collab, it's not a new thing

>>32195265
She ghosted Miko because she didn't want to lose her non-existent fans from their own "box."
Hoshikawa and Toko as well as Vspo girls didn't abandon their friends and that's why they are at the top right now together with the Holos.

Holy shit, people here do not know the importance of the one-month collab ban

>>32195171
Ok fine. I miss the *by. I do not want the one-week ban but a three-week ban is fine, maybe even optimal. But you could just have a month ban but with exceptions. I believe HoloID also did this, kind of, during a Minecraft tour.

>>32195347
she really don't want to risk it huh?

>>32195401
It's important but shaving off a week wouldn't hurt anything. It's better than having them sit off in the cold while the entire branch has the Halloween collab.

>>32194609
Even ignoring that she wanted to put it out as Mori literally doubling her music output before 2022 compared to 1 cover and one original doesn’t exactly seem like a big shift in activity

>>32195347
Pata-nee going for Stars lmao. Is she trying to worm her way in to Holo girls through the boys?

>>32194185
Not just that dog chuuba from Niji, Miko literally abandoned every cliques outside Hololive when she blew up in 2020. It's hard to remember the last time Miko did collab with an someone outside Hololive. Flare did the same thing, she's great friend with Patra but they barely talk to each other nowaday.

>>32195401
Nijisisters* do not know
They would rather accelerate and have everyone constantly collab and lose their identity

>>32195347
When I saw "lack siblings" I already knew Flare wasn't going to be part of it.
Girl is fucking weird when it comes to avoiding males and Nijis like the plague.
>Inb4 based

>>32195486
I mean, didn't Subaru do the same thing?

>>32195401
>niji fans in-charge of handling talents
It's no wonder why Niji mems are inferior to their rivals.

>>32195486
Anon patra was on her birthday 3d live what are you talking about?

>>32195398
i kinda get it, the thing going down with china was pretty scary

the people who stuck with holos made a dangerous decision and deserve to be celebrated for it

>>32195239
Hot plot ! i want koyori emergence/metamorphosis arc

>>32195519
yeah, stars are one thing, but why would she not collabing with the girls?

>>32195486
Did Pekora made contact with Hinata this year? If I remember she greeted her last year right?