/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>201,571: Hololive (Hololive)
>64,350: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>28,912: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,417: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,946: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,874: Akina (Nijisanji)
>18,700: Ui (Indie)
>17,508: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,004: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,426: Reid (Neo Porte)
>11,247: Calli (Hololive)
>10,615: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,576: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>10,213: Calli (Hololive)

>>32180083
/news/ roundup for 31-08-2022
>>32135656
Recent clip numbers
>>32112129
>>32112220
>>32112424
>>32112462

How many more waves until OP anon can use a nijigirl OP pic and no one will realize?

Kronii 3.3k is this normal for her? I wanna know if her "yab" has any noticeable impact.

Also, Shu finally on top.

According to this, NijiEN is about 20% of Nijisanji's business.

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/10706832/

Towa is the strongest EN chuuba.

>>32180341
Less than what Fauna gets

>>32180271
Zero. I think I seen a Sister Claire OP once thatno one noticed

>>32180380
Pomu is the hardest working member, and has a lot of watch-time despite lower viewers than the males

>>32180369

>>32179809
As long as the troon uses his penis to make more niplets, he will be following Abe's will and I approve.

>>32179809
Not him, would've left a like if I were. Well she often pops up in my recommendation thanks to him so every now and then I check her out. Her Otsunglish is kinda cute.

Also help her understand anons I can't read

>12 hour Altare stream
>10 hour Magni stream
>6 hour Vesper stream
>Axel over 5 hours today
Jesus fucking titty christ I can't watch all these fucking vods

>>32180341
too lazy to check overlaps and timeslots but here

>>32180422
I'll be honest I don't know where this data comes from, some anon posted it in this thread. I think it's average-ccv instead of median-peak ccv, or something.

But you can see a general increase for the girls, except Finana and Nina who are managing to fail despite an increasing market.

August Data of Vtuber Market in Japan

This time, Ame's viewers seemed to Irys as waiting room. Ame streams again. Wtf!

>>32180428
Are you okay with them not being pure blooded nips? And desu. She WILL leave Nippon if she got a better lifestyle out of there. Abe you lose no matter what even in your grave...

>>32180083
>September events

Hololive
>1) Rust season 2 final day (multi povs)
>3) Ayame anniversary (ayame ch)
>4) Choco anniversary (choco ch)
>7) Sora anniversary (sora ch)
>8) Botan birthday (botan ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release/Holocure update
>12) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>13) Myth anniversary (ame ch)
>16) Subaru anniversary (subaru ch)

Nijisanji
>1) Leos 3D challenge (rion ch)
>4) Fuwa costume reveal (fuwa ch)
>9) Splatoon 3 release
>23) Niji horror drama (official ch)
>28) Kuzuha day (kuzuha ch)
>30) Nijifes fantasia (official ch)

>>32180166
SILVER
>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*
>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers
>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE
>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game
>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2
>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal
>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE
>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz
>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST
>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb
>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8
>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>19) 33,956: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>20) 38,850: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
>21) 41,674: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #6
>22) 38,441: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>23) 50,782: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>24) 28,972: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>25) 52,902: Shiranami Ramune (VSPO) Debut stream
>26) 116,911: Oliver (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>27) 68,650: Salome (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>28) 44,569: Toko (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>29) 42,169: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) Mahjong
>30) 49,192: Toya (Nijisanji) Zatsudan with Slither.io
>31) 64,350: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic

> PER COMPANY
11x: Nijisanji
18x: Hololive
1x: VSPO
1: Indie

> PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
4x: Fuwa
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Salome
1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Suisei, Ramune, Oliver, Toko, Tsukasa Tenkai, Touya

>>32180559
Nijikeks shitting on HoloEN incoming (but they tend to be inactive during this time)

>>32180470
Minecraft, VTL and Submautica I kneel...

>>32180422
>yugo has streamed the least hours out of every non-iluna nijien
Why is (s)he such a lazy bitch?

>>32180559
What does this even mean?

So what went wrong with EN vtubing? Was it really just a COVID fad?

>>32180673
They can't even read moonrunes what will they even say? My chart big?

>>32180501
Well it IS lower but there are overlaps right now. We'll need more data to see I guess

>>32180470
Are they experimenting on streaming very long hours?
I feel they are used as guinea pigs, and this adds as more evidence.

>>32180720
Yugo is a disaster. Never should have been hired. They only hired her because of her massive pl numbers.

>>32180579
This is probably the most stable IRyS's graph has ever looked

what can i do with all these numbers, i mean if i put these data into deep learning can it generate best key element of content?

>>32180769
>TikTok numbers

>>32180166
BRONZE
>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration
>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*
>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien
>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k
>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit
>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon
>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4
>19) 31,578: Marine (Hololive) Yukata 3D reveal
>20) 38,544: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #5
>21) 38,424: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>22) 30,659: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>23) 39,304: Koyori (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>24) 25,946: Suisei (Hololive) Gartic Phone
>25) 43,091: Petra (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>26) 37,334: Hal (Neo Porte) Neoporte quiz
>27) 40,308: Rosemi (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>28) 41,757: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>29) 41,845: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft summer festival
>30) 44,597: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>31) 28,912: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX

> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: Neo-Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Nijisanji, Marine, Miko, Pekora
2x: Shiina, Fuwa, Suisei, Subaru, Kuzuha
1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Hololive, Koyori, Petra, Hal, Rosemi

>>32180673
the data is about accumulate watchtime so of course that having more talents will bring more watchtime above the other.
It's also bad to be use as 1:1 comparison unless you're just a shitposter

>>32180559
Niji almost half DORYAAAAA

>>32180738
Kronii got those 4k peaks because of funnels anyways.
https://vrabi.net/video/M3hr6K6SGhM
https://vrabi.net/video/hHr6BLbIRDk

https://open.spotify.com/artist/6pNgnvzBa6Bthsv8SrZJYl

>>32180769
>massive PL numbers
you know after Iluna it really feels like this strategy isn't working so well for them

>>32180726
>So what went wrong with EN vtubing
List the things that are wrong with it

Awh man, did I miss the lewd posting?

>>32180721
One company have more members than the less company so they get more overall watchtime.
That's it

>>32180896
Shit numbers

>>32180559
Speaking of Neoporte, what went wrong? How come most of Hal’s hires are stuck in 3view territory?

>>32180254
Monthly /news/ roundup for August 2022
>>32140520
Top 25 ccv vtuber streams of all time
>>32144719

>>32180936
>having chuuba specify for e-Sport
>doesn't do e-sport tourney for your chuuba to thrive
what would you expect?

>>32180769
You can argue that Niji is only in the position to hire someone like her because of ACCELERATE.
People with only one skill like Yugo (singing) would be huge wasted slots in HoloEN (much like Sana's only skill was drawing and she didn't even do art streams).
It doesn't hurt NijiEN that much that Yugo sucks at streaming because there's so many of them and she's a hard carry for their music department.

They have a lot of livers like that in NijiJP too, where they're deadweight streamers with barely 1k averages, but great singers to carry their music releases.

Is there gonna be HoloRust All out war later?

I only saw Miko gonna play any JP/EN/ID gonna participate?

>>32180936
Nothing went wrong, last we checked on them HAL was actually trying to build a box for Neo-Porte so that is a step in the right direction

>>32180656
You are a good anon. Adds flavor to the horse race

>>32180380
Half of ex gamers are still relevant today. They are probably the miracle gen for nijisanji too. Also Shiina is more relevant than Sasaki but in 4chan Sasaki is talked about more.

>>32180559
Wait what? VSPO is under Brave Group - the black company that remained in the industry? Damn. Neo-Porte is just emperor and his underlings huh.

>>32181023
Tonight, yes.
NoRules RustWipe War

>>32180166
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust
19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,506 - New outfit reveal
20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers
21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab
22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 50,411* - 3D live
23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,613* - Hololive Summer
26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 118,790 - Niji Koshien 2022 exhibition match
27) Noel (Hololive) - 70,474 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 99,006 - Sankisei Pekora quiz collab
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,656 - Minecraft summer festival
30) Selen (Nijisanji) - 51,520 - New outfit reveal
31) Hololive (Hololive) - 201,571 - Hololive Summer 3D live

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Nijisanji, Pekora
3x: Noel
2x: Hololive, Kuzuha
1x: Chima, Flare, Fuwa, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Selen, Shion, Towa, Toya

>>32180470
They took their limiters off

>>32180838
32,000,000 > 26,000,000

Nijisanji should do koshien every month

>>32181022
If Sana can stream chink gacha she would've more contents.

>>32181108
Brave Group bought VSPO a few months ago iirc

>>32180769
More like she and Aster should switch avatars. Same as Towa and her Smoker voice

>>32181023
Mori, Kiara and I think IRyS are streaming it. Ame is playing but not streaming because fuck you.

>>32181156
The power of males

>>32181023
Give them some time, it's too early for even Pekora to put her frame up

>>32181153
>32 golds

>>32180859
But it's not not working either.
1. Easier on recruiters = more accelerate = more chances to roll chuuba gacha and get a Gura
2. Low initial investment means even a dud isn't a drain on resources. And it's more bodies to throw at events
3. Starves competition of potential talent and makes them work harder in recruiting, slowing down their momentum

>>32180904
Oh its watch hours huh.

>>32181195
Well, it is not a good news.

>>32181195
VSPO was under which company prior to that?

>>32181253
It has to be on purpose. Remember when Bronze count was ahead by one day

>>32180501
Thank you! It IS lower. And SC readings are where you find your die hard fans, whales and unicorns. There are overlaps but Kronies are (or were) super loyal! So this is pointing in a direction for sure.

>>32181153
last year gold for comparison

>AUGUST 2021
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab
3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles
6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX
7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice
9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery
11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals
16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal
17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday
18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke
19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement
20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom
22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament
23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut
24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab
25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match
26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart
27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon
28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut
29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting
30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachi

August 1 - 15
>holo 5
>niji 9

August 16 - 31
>holo 10
>niji 5

total
>Holo: 15
>Nijisanji: 14
>Indie: 2

>>32181153

>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust
19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,190 - New outfit reveal
20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers
21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab
22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 46,619 - 3D live
23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 56,764 - Hololive Summer
26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 118,790 - Niji Koshien 2022 exhibition match
27) Noel (Hololive) - 70,474 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 99,006 - Sankisei Pekora quiz collab
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,656 - Minecraft summer festival
30) Selen (Nijisanji) - 51,520 - New outfit reveal
31) Hololive (Hololive) - 201,571 - Hololive Summer 3D live

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
6x: Nijisanji
3x: Noel
2x: Hololive, Kuzuha
1x: Chima, Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Selen, Shion, Towa, Toya

>>32181374
No Z

>>32181153
With Z
32 gold

>>32181266
This is literally how nijisanji function since it was still ichikara, I don't know why people suddenly have an epiphany about this.

i thought he's iluna's big hitter?

>>32181338
It was just under vspo management prior to brave group, that’s it

>>32181450
So with Z or no Z in the future? I don't want the beginning of each thread flooded with different kind of tallys in the future.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>32181552
>entire vspo sold their soul to a black company
grim

>>32181528
That's Ren. Kyo is just the one that isn't doing that badly compared to debut week expectations, but he's far from a big hitter.
There are no big hitters in iLUNA.

>>32181577
With z if benefited holo no z if benefited niji

>>32180842
>>32181344

>>32181528
It's still a Q & A stream and his viewers are sisters who were trained to watch collabs or his fotm streams. I bet you Ren will be a 3 view if he did this

>>32181643
Watched the new gen of Kawaii. The company hit some gold.

>>32180901
Have a pity cunny

>>32181730
Who are the shining stars?

>>32181819
The one that hit 5k ccv

>>32181552
>>32181663
But I thought Not Bora wanted to escape black company Nijisanji, she's stuck in another one?

>>32180901
Yeah dude. We hit the image limit twice.

>>32181577
Z is some old tech bot. let it die and improve the technology.

What's the point of bringing up Ilunas middling numbers over and over?

>>32181862
Yes

>>32180901
We blew our load hard since the all the JP girls (+Gura and Ina) are present

>>32181982
look

Why is there no shitpost about Kronii's number yet?
>normal superchat reading on 20-8-2022 can reach 4k
>special anniversary superchat reading today - hovering below 3.5k
"Damn, the decline post male collab come so fast huh?"
"I thought it will took months before the decline becomes visible"

>>32181819
Horse girl stood out to me, but the general should know better.

>>32181688

>>32181982
It's funny and never not entertaining to see a corpo drop to 3views after 80k+ debuts.

>>32181982
What else can we bring up now anyways? Towa showing her superiority over everyone?

>>32182013
they even got more SC than iluna? that's surprising.

>>32181982
They were the biggest flops in EN vtubing history.

>>32182051
People respond better to screenshots

Towa eating Korean Pizza.
IT'S OVER, Towa will become the first HoloKR

>>32182078
We could do a EN V JP timeloop if you want.

>>32181688
The other way around

>>32182078
Yes, praise Tower more

>>32182051
They're at infinity I guess.

>>32182013
Why does Scarle receive such numbers? She is sometimes a 3-view, unlike Ren.

>>32182157
the weekly KR learning stream didn't clue you in?? she clearly craves that mondo dick.

>>32182013
>Scarle is higher than Maria
What happened? I thought Maria is the holo-lite

>>32182197
Sexy avatar
streams a lot

>>32182051
>click on vrabi
>Kronii hit 4k on her last 2 SC readings without overlap and receiving funnels
>check ongoing streams
>3.3k overlapping with Irys and Mumei on Towa's channel
Yawn

>>32180559
NIJI INCLINING
HOLO RECLINING

>>32182219
Mondo will just reject her, she’ll go crying back to Selly right after

>>32182197
Coomer model + Zatsu in every stream + stream time

>>32182128
"Grim, she could easily get 4k reading superchat before the collab"
^Something like this?

>>32182013

>>32182051
One of those only reached 4k thanks to Fauna's Funnel

>>32182197
>>32182013
>>32182323

>>32182269
>anon who doesn't read vstats block
It's specify said "Hololive production have +22% increase in their watch hours comparing to last month"

So...recline MY ARSE

>>32182293
Put her SC reading numbers before the collab.

>>32182188
Why not hlgg and here since both threads are bigger?

just finished work anything happen in the last 10 hours

>>32181982
It's funny

well i don't watch kronii but it think she made a satisfactory response to the drama. Miles better than mori and vox at least. Don't think this will affect her much.

You can see the effect of acceleration already, Cover is slowing down recruitment significantly since Anykara takes a lot less time to debut new vtubers. This is happening in both EN and JP markets simultaneously.
No matter how you people make fun of acceleration, it will work wonderfully if the company has the fund to afford it.

>>32182396
Kronies got bullied out of both threads, there is no point in baiting if nobody is going to bite

>>32182422
-Hololive got gold
-lewd posting so hard that we hit the image limit on two different threads
-Iluna and Tempus superchat discussions >>32182013

>>32182383
Is there any significant difference? Actually don't even bother.
If they are having the same amount of SC:
>"Damn she can't even get more SC for her anniversary
If they are more than the previous SC
>"Without the collab she could've get more SC"

>>32182493
To be honest, the fact that Anykara still makes a lot of money despite some newer waves not making much of an impact is a miracle in and of itself.

>>32181819
Not that anon but chiming in. If it's similar to other small corpo gens I've witnessed then Oceane will be the 'star' for Kawaii Gen 3 in terms of sub count because she's SEA, however as expected since SEA are all poorfags, she has the worst donos. My guess is that Peony is the big dono getter of Gen 3.

>>32182269
>>32182382
Hololive +21% while Niji is +23% from last month

>>32182078
How to revive NijiID without graduating anyone?

>>32182157
Tawasama please save Chigusa...

So what's the future of this thread now that Niji is no longer able to win a month with the buffest content possible?

>>32182396
And get what, 2 or 3 (yous) here and get banned at hlgg?

>>32182572
Kek. Shitposters will always win either way.

>>32182595
I mean you stack hundred of shitters up and they would still make as much as one good Vtuber

>>32182652
here an answer
>They can't

>>32182493
Well duh, that’s why they will keep doing it in the short term, but we don’t know how that will be in the long term though.

>>32182561
damn Scarle is actually doing great compared to the numbers her CCV is usually at. and Vesper holy

>>32182595
It's hard to lose money when you don't pay them a salary

>>32182461
>"please don't ship me and my coworker"
>instantly walked back on it on the twitter
She could either remain silent since she address it (?) even before the collab or she should just tell them it is not healthy to ship holos and stars. The tweet just make her looks like a hypocrite. Oh ya this is not the only problem about the speech, the other 2 are it is just "improve yourself" worded better and implying her viewers are incels.

>>32182330
>3k without funnel
Clearly the male collab inclined her

>>32182660
they can still cope with overall watch hours as usual, anon

>>32182660
>>32182631
>>32182493
They turn into inclining/reclining posting

>>32182595
Nah. Acceleration is just cheap and they can get a hit from time to time to offset the "losses" (Salami, solid guy and friends)

>>32182595
If you look at their revenue streams and what's popular about them, it's not a surprise at all.
Both Cover and Anycolor have grown far beyond relying on ad revenue or SCs to make money. They're legit corporations now.
Their old guard are just as popular as ever and the greater Niji fanbase is larger than ever, they just don't give a shit about the new debuts except for Salome.
It costs very little to debut new vtubers and it doesn't hurt the company if they drop to 3views.
Just 1 Salome or even an Edengumi-tier wave is enough to make up for multiple failed waves.

>>32182652
It's dead. Only Mika can be saved at the cost of being a leech. Hana is too pig headed and won't leave her Indo cosplayer circle

>>32182665
Wait what? Mods and jannies only clean up hlgg but not the splits?

>>32182784
Salami is barely a threat these day. Almost feel like she doesn't stream anymore

>>32182652
Cowkinis. So they treat them as gods.

>>32182688
It's still hilarious how Niji killed their ID branch and then HoloID massiively inclined as a whole due to Gen 3. Who would've thought.

Nice brotubers you got there /mans/

>>32182748
well yes, they are if theyre acting that way. theres no other way to cut it. only right way to not offend your incel fanbase is to do it Gura style and just never acknowledge the stars which she was doing fine at til Vesper cracked her shell somehow. Now that a collabs happened and the manchildren are upset she has to try and tip toe the issue without throwing her coworkers under the bus.

>>32182745
You’re fucking dumb if you think Holo members get high salary. At best, the salary that they receive is peanut compared to other income sources.

>>32182422
Also, discussion about Spotify numbers that got heated a bit. Not much, I think.

>>32182844
>threat
We're talking about money here, not daily horse race medals and Salome definitely makes Anycolor money with those shill streams.
She also doesn't seem to even have a filter on what shill jobs to take, she takes everything on.

Do you think we'll see the first Nijisanji EN graduation in the upcoming year?

Maybe an Iluna member?

>>32182631
>Holo +21%
>Niji +23%
>Holoniggers think is supposed to prove that Holo isn't recling
RORU RORU RUMAO

>>32182873
I laughed, especially considering a boomer is typing these ironically

>>32182879
imo she should never do that speech

>>32182899
Even then, it's obvious that cover invests a lot more into each individual talent.

>>32182956
Are you parodying a bad villain on ironically or unironically?

>>32182899
Why do defensive? Whatever they get is better than the big fat zero that black company gives.

>>32182956
>He doesn't know the meaning of the word "reclining"

>>32182572 You called it, I guess.
>32182755

>>32182948
No because graduating from one of the top 2 corpos over numbers is peak retardation.
Even if it wasn't for numbers reasons like Sana and Coco, it was still fucking retarded.
They won't even be alone as 3views in NijiEN so there's no pressure.

>>32182819
On the other hand, Cover puts too much emphasis on bringing the “right” talents. When those talents fail, it will affect the company more negatively compared to Anykara. Cover’s strategy is not sustainable at this day and age.

>>32182755
What about this? Did Kiara help or does this mean that Kronii has a natural number variant between 3.3k-4k for SCs?

>>32182873
>sigma mine grindset
kek

>>32183100
Was that overlapping with anything?

can someone give me a TPS report on la+'s numbers. I hope she's doing well

>>32182986
I’m sorry, but what does Cover invest in anyway?

>>32183150
Nope.

>>32182684
that sounds like a pyramid scheme to me

>>32183172
Yeah that is essentially what Nijisanij is, money go to the top

>>32183157
staff has been their biggest expenditure increase AFAIK

>>32183153
She's extremely underperforming just because she's doing her best to achieve it

>>32183172
Scheme or not, the fact that Anykara debuts waves more quickly will entice people to join Nijisanji instead of Hololive.

>>32183171
She's overlapping a little and at 3.25k right now, so I guess these are her normal numbers.

>>32183068
Good thing they haven't missed badly in a while.
There hasn't been a 3view holo (excluding stars) since 2020.

>>32183157
Recruiting, management.

>>32183061
They would move on to something else, not streaming related.

I expect at least 2 Iluna members to graduate in the next 12 months.

>>32182377
I remember when Luca was the weakest Luxiem with the lowest subs. Amazing to see his transformation.

All of Luxiem doubled their viewers.
Noctyx viewers are flat.
Lazulight doubled, except Finana is flat.
Obsydia more than doubled.
Ethyria tripled, except Nina is flat.

The only one who isn't growing very fast is Noctyx. Even some of the girls are beating them now.

>>32183221
that sucks she's funny as hell and such a star collabber

>Acceleration timeloop
Well at least this one isn't spammed as much

>>32183211
I remember someone said that Cover had more staff members than Anykara despite them not having as many members. Like, why the hell does Cover have so many? They should focus on finding vtubers instead of staff since staff members don’t do nothing but managing vtubers anyway.

>>32183352
was that immediately off debut because I remember Luca was always 3rd with Ike and Shu beneath Vox/Mysta as the 2 clear winners and Luca doing almost as well but floating under radar because he wasnt those 2 with Ike/Shu trailing quite behind. Been around May/June Ike and Shu began to trend up rather well

>>32183068
>Cover puts too much emphasis on bringing the “right” talents.
Id say that's more of a HoloEN recruiter problem than a Cover one

>>32183363
She could have joined Pekora's circle but she joined Towa's circle instead
Her fault

>>32182323
watchtime

January
>ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)

February
>NIJISANJI EN 3,972,676 (1264.1時間, 336枠, 平均3,143人) Nijisanji EN (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,021,167 (439.3時間, 146枠, 平均6,878人) Hololive EN (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)

March
>NIJISANJI EN 6,283,717 (1892.4時間, 514枠, 平均3,320人) Nijisanji EN (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 4,907,065 (615.4時間, 180枠, 平均7,974人) Hololive EN (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)

April
>NIJISANJI EN 6,449,716 (1983.9時間, 503枠, 平均3,251人) Nijisanji EN (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,886,364 (529.2時間, 177枠, 平均7,344人) Hololive EN (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)

July
>NIJISANJI EN 6,285,678
>ホロライブEnglish 4,066,096

>this thread

>>32183384
Japanese company, please understand
Also Yagoo is hiring his family members and friends to be under the Cover payroll so he can mooch off more money from the actual talents that bring in revenue

>>32183277
Hololive is so big now that if you're not a consistent 5view as a holoJP you're a failure. All of gen 5 and gen 6 have been misses as far as the Japanese market is concerned.

>>32183352
It’s weird how Luxiem is almost as influential as Myth yet most vtuber viewers only view Myth as the top. HoloEN might dominate in the US but NijiEN literally is popular around the rest of the world.

>>32183462
OH NO OH NO
HOLOKEKS?
I THOUGHT HOLOEN WAS MORE POPULAR?
WHY ARE THEIR WATCH TIMES LOWER THAN NIJIEN?

>>32183424
They all follow a similar pattern.
Debut --> Numbers are high
Post-debut slump --> Numbers sag a lot
After that, gradual growth over time. Or in some cases like Enna explosive growth.

Pomu right now is getting about the same she was getting in her debut week. But obviously things decline after debut naturally.

>>32183352
Shu was the runt of Luxiem in terms of subs anon.

>>32183384
I think Cover has more behind the scene stuff to manage. They are essentially just a technology company with the girls acting as their kanban musume. Staff are there not only to manage the girls, but also to get sponsors, to get collabs (technologically) with other company and so on.

>>32182873
Kek

>>32183443
you know about pebot right

>>32183538
need to stream to have watchtime

Hakos baelz new cover status? I heard it has mind blowing mv, so the view must be good

>>32183488
We talked about this the other day, there are around 25-30 Vtubers IN THE WORLD with a 10k or higher average, stop saying bullshit based on: "yeah, they didn't hit 20k on this JRPG part 239 overlapped by 43 members, what a flop"

>>32183538
Nijikek cope with watchtime now?

>>32183436
Picking the right talent is actually very important when you only debut like 5 of them every year.

>>32183462
>inb4 ratio holocope
maybe if your whores actually streamed more then you wouldnt have to ratiocope

>>32183384
>>32183463
Niji machinima-esque company. treat talent as disposable gacha
Holo idol company - give them proper support mental, medical, training, lawyer. Can't really blame them lots of antis since the yab

>Millie at almost 3K with ASMR
Easily her biggest ASMR stream ever.

>>32183538
>Cant understand the data.
Why nijikek so stupid?

>>32183488
That’s why Cover is unsustainable if they keep waiting too long between gens. Anykara might be too quick, but Salome and Luxiem prove that they can still find gems each time. Most new Holo gens fail, from HoloX to ID3.

>>32183669
Doing better than Polka

The baiters are shitting up the thread again. Don't feed them.

>>32183722
is that incline im reading

Will Millie hit 3k?

>>32183722
To think, all she needed to do was free kisses instead of doing them after every superchat.

>>32183746
Yeah some pretty obvious shit too

>pay talent literally nothing
>assign 1 manager for an entire branch unless they're high earners and require their own manager
>even the shittiest talents bring in revenue
>wow I can't believe Anykara makes so much money with 20000 talents they must have huge overhead costs

>>32183424
NTA, but right off of debut, Shu was the weakest and Luca was the 2nd weakest.
I remember back then saying something along the lines of "Damn, too bad for Luca. I think he'll be the only Luxiem who will never get 10k." welp.

Once they realized they had chinese interest, both Vox and Luca turned up the fanservice and inclined greatly, while Shu is kind of an FPStuber and Ike just streams shit that filters half his fans all the time. Luca/Vox/Mysta were part of the horror game spam trio during Luxiem's incline too.
To Luca's credit, his fanservice was never close to as bad as Vox's, which is arguably the most extreme I've seen from a corpo vtuber.

Nowadays, Luca has the benefit of having his own timeslot without much overlap where he gets a mix of late night NA and afternoon CN/SEA viewers and his content is mostly buff stuff (Minecraft/VR games/Horror games/Gimmicks).

>>32183751
Wait, what happened to new outfit buff? Selen is only at Kronii’s SC reading level?

>>32183462
where june

To be fair HoloX is what happened when Cover didn't hire the right talents, they won't focus entirely on propping up the company but rather only themselves
On EN, Mori is the biggest offender
So yeah, hiring the right people are pretty damn important especially considering how Hololive work. Niji only want streamers so the standard is not very high there

>>32183734
>Nijikek try to shitposting
ok...i see what you did there , good bye then?

>>32183751
Idk but in New York I Millie rock

>>32183685
>debut like 5 of them every year
thanks for reminding me of that other can of worms

>>32183832
She had over 5k earlier. This game is not good with Selen because it's all text reading stuff.

How do we stop Selen from eating?

>>32183832
it's afraid

>>32183828
With Luxiem getting more popular in NA, it’s only a matter of time before they overtake Myth honestly

>>32183830
Remember how most of the HoloSummer stream chatter came from PekoMiko channel?

>>32182873
If your bros doesn't act gey around you to tease your sensitive ass, are they really your bros?

Is this the worst performing IRyS Resident Evil/Horror game stream yet?

>>32183830
>Kaela
>Koyori
Excellent

>>32183930
nice joke

>>32183917
Does anyone have the “it’s afraid” meme but with Hololive logo as the bug while NPH has the Nijisanji logo?

>>32183930
>Only a matter of time
They already have. Luxiem merch is selling out in seconds while Holo merch don't get to break even

>Pomu at Millie's ASMR stream
Is she masturbating with Millie's kisses in the BG?

she's just like me fr fr

>>32181153
Another month for Hololive.
Hololive is too strong

>cool Magni horage this should he awe-
>Vesper
Fuck off

>>32184025
Then why was NijiEN not at Anime Expo? Or why CRunchyroll decided to give Hololive a whole floor as their own mini HoloExpo?

>>32183674
Every new gen should be bigger than the last, that's the sign of growth, a business that isn't constantly growing is a dead business. The lack of break out stars in gen 5 and gen 6 is very telling despite Cover's best attempt to shill them. And yes this means Nijisanji have been even bigger failures for a longer amount of time, it remains to be seen if Salome can reverse that trend.

>>32181153
【最高同接勝利数】(2020.9〜2022.8)
ホロライブ22勝
にじホロ2引き分け

(2020)
9月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝
10月 ホロ28勝 にじ2勝 鳴神裁1勝
11月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝
12月 ホロ21勝 にじ10勝
(2021)
1月 ホロ17勝 にじ12勝 渋ハル2勝
2月 ホロ19勝 にじ8勝 774.inc1勝
3月 ホロ18勝 にじ11勝 花譜1勝 渋ハ1勝
4月 ホロ22勝 にじ7勝 犬山たまき1勝
5月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝 しぐれうい1勝
6月 ホロ25勝 にじ5勝
7月 ホロ17勝 にじ13勝 渋ハル1勝
8月 ホロ15勝 にじ13勝 渋ハル3勝
9月 ホロ19勝 にじ10勝 ぶいすぽ1勝
10月 ホロ24勝 にじ7勝
11月 ホロ25勝 にじ6勝
12月 ホロ23勝 にじ8勝
(2022)
1月 ホロ22勝 にじ7勝 うい1勝 NP1勝
2月 ホロ17勝 にじ10勝 キズナアイ1勝
3月 ホロ22勝 にじ7勝 NP2勝
4月 ホロ24勝 にじ2勝 NP4勝
5月 ホロ19勝 にじ12勝
6月 ホロ15勝 にじ15勝
7月 ホロ15勝 にじ15勝 天開司1勝
8月 ホロ18勝 にじ13勝

>>32184009
HoloEN is slowly becoming more NijiEN by the day. They wont out'NijiEN'... NijiEN

>>32183830
Fauna and Moom stream time and averages are almost the fucking same.

>>32184127
NijiCN can't even fill 41%.

>>32184138
>constant growth forever
unsustainable

>>32184025
>Sold out by chink
dominated NA kek

>>32184138
Lmao Salome pretty can't even get to decide what she want to stream and you think she get to change anything?
She's big, but is now reduced to management's puppet

Hololive didnt do as well as expected

>>32184138
Incredibly retarded take

This is the same girl that played Triangle Strategy every day to 500 viewers

>>32184166
So 2022 is Hololive's year.

>>32181371
2020

>AUGUST 2020 GOLDS
1) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 55,800 - Dokuzuhonsha collab
2) Hal (Indie) - 80k - Vsaikyou apex cup #1
3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 45,669 - Koshien practice
4) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 43,290 - Koshien practice
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 57,535 - Peko Marine clubhouse 51 collab
6) Lize (Nijisanji) - 39,783 - Koshien practice
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,338 - Peko Okayu Mario 64 collab
8) Ebio (Nijisanji) - 63,715 - 3D debut
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 70,547 - Nijisanji smashbros tournament
10) Hayato (Nijisanji) - 132,381 - 3D debut
11) Marine (Hololive) - 59,522 - Marine, Noel, Flare 3D collab
12) Lamy (Hololive) - 103,408 - Hololive debut
13) Nene (Hololive) - 80,031 - Hololive debut
14) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 153,025 - Niji Koshien 2020 A-league
15) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 141,081 - Niji Koshien 2020 B-league
16) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 191,449 - Niji Koshien 2020 finals
17) Polka (Hololive) - 45,201 - Gen 5 collab
18) Debi debi (Nijisanji) - 119,092 - 3D debut
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 41,105 - Fall guys
20) Korone (Hololive) - 34,936 - Fall guys
21) Marine (Hololive) - 57,786 - Marine Shion mario tennis
22) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 89,429 - Dokuzuhonsha 3D live
23) Marine (Hololive) - 44,811 - Marine illustration marishion sleepover
24) Coco (Hololive) - 74,200 - Marinecoco 3D dance
25) Nene (Hololive) - 44,473 - Gen 5 clubhouse 51 collab
26) Nene (Hololive) - 29,194 - Nene botan apex collab
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,408 - Mario kart challenge
28) Rena (Nijisanji) - 75,598 - 3D debut
29) Hal (Indie) - 50k - CR cup
30) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 81,376 - Niji Koshien 2020 exhibition match
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 81,382 - Peko Marine princess connect collab

August 1 - 15
>holo 5
>niji 9
>indie 1

August 16 - 31
>holo 10
>niji 5
>indie 1

total
>holo 15
>nijis 14
>Indie 2

The heavyweight of Nijisanji English is coming. HoloEN is scared on her. She will mog your oshi like how Miltank mogs its opponents.

>>32184166
>NIJISANJI 0 Win
Holykek. Now Niji can go back to their watch hours cope as usual

>>32183875
Let's be honest, would you choose
1. 2 debuts each year (total 10 talents), but it is a gacha of talents like nijiEN (let's assume the males of nijiEN are females with the same personalities in this situation)
or
2. Debut 5 talents in like, maybe 1 or 2 years time, but at least they will have better quality and are tested to be able to mingle with the existing girls without causing drama.

>>32184285
It's kinda sad that NijiEN fans hate vidya unless it's viewer participation, horage, or minecraft.

>>32184285
>actually kissing
I would say clickbait title is why it's outperforming her other ASMRs, but it's more like coombait

>>32184138
yes, each gen has to be larger than the last and that's totally possible as holoJP has talents that have constantly grown their fanbase for years already.

>>32184285
And when she did these ASMR streams, she got 5 times more superchat than what she's getting today, since she didn't give away kisses 'for free'.

>Millie 3K for an ASMR stream for the first time
Nice.

>>32184349
2 every fucking time

>>32184354
It is almost like majority of their viewers are females, yes, even for nijiEN girls.

>>32184349
>2.
Explain Sana

>>32184020
begging to copy memes now too?
how shameless are you niggers

>>32184390
>Kissing and massage
>3k
At the end of the day Unicuck is still the strongest fandom

>>32184138
What you just said are known as unsustainable growth in the world of business. Growing too fast and too rapidly with no downtime inbetween growing steps are a sure way to burn your company out

>>32184349
Accelerate early but slow down after gen 4 is the best

>>32184413
Well, at least now you know why EN3 was not coming out more than 1 year after council debut.

>>32184335
source
1 16-08 191,449
2 14-08 153,025
3 15-08 141,081
4 10-08 132,381
5 18-08 119,092
6 22-08 89,429
7 30-08 81,376
8 14-08 76,407
9 28-08 75,598
10 09-08 70,547
11 08-08 68,695
12 01-08 55,800
13 14-08 50,458
14 08-08 50,255
15 02-08 48,900
16 11-08 48,096
17 31-08 47,824
18 02-08 47,456
19 03-08 45,587
20 21-08 44,589
21 04-08 43,647
22 17-08 43,082
23 25-08 42,217
24 06-08 40,283
25 03-08 39,788
26 01-08 39,697
27 05-08 39,503
28 13-08 38,882
29 07-08 38,685
30 03-08 38,286
31 15-08 38,215
32 02-08 38,069
33 17-08 37,422
34 01-08 35,868
35 05-08 35,118
36 06-08 34,723
37 28-08 34,529
38 08-08 34,472
39 06-08 33,804
40 21-08 33,632
41 23-08 32,069
42 18-08 30,979
43 21-08 30,737
44 04-08 30,479
45 02-08 30,224
46 29-08 29,436
47 27-08 27,397
48 20-08 28,928
49 23-08 28,917
50 02-08 28,638
51 09-08 28,227
52 02-09 28,137
53 10-08 28,061
54 16-08 27,985
55 01-08 27,867
56 08-08 26,912
57 09-08 26,861
58 24-08 26,828
59 12-08 26,730
60 02-08 26,698
61 04-08 26,481
62 16-08 26,019
63 10-08 25,761
64 30-08 25,940
65 20-08 25,343
66 13-08 25,292
67 09-08 25,059
68 23-08 25,030
69 07-08 24,937
70 12-08 24,905
71 12-08 24,842
72 11-08 24,417
73 02-08 24,362
74 06-08 24,255
75 04-08 24,197
76 23-08 24,111
77 04-08 24,029
78 09-08 23,858
79 29-08 23,756
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVxs8z2f5Q

>>32183462
>Watchtime

>>32184358
Given how each gen's debut viewership has been larger than the last but each gen has also failed to retain as much audiences as the older gens, yes, the market is huge and still growing, they're just debuting streamers that are failing to capture it. Just compare how many clips JP gen 5 or gen 6 get vs JP gen 3 or Myth.

>>32184349
>without causing drama
I started watching Vtubers because I was tired of western hemisphere 'can't go one day without drama' streaming scene in the first place, so yeah 2 is a no brainer.

>>32184478
Now imagine what we would've got in a 1 situation

>>32184127
>Why is NijiEN not at AnimeExpo
>Song Collab with Millie, Enna and Hime was the main feature
????
baffling post

i dont understand how posting about sub 5k numbers became such a common thing, but it just feels pathetic, especially the unironic ones.

>>32184522
Fast has nothing to do with it, they can take a year or two years between debuts but given how the viewerbase of vtubers has increased over time, the failure of new debuts to capture more of that base is a clear sign that they're not hiring the right people.

Is iluna success enough for niji management expectation?

>>32184581
dude you literally can't act like Myth clips matter. the laziest shittiest people clip EN shit. 50 seconds of someone saying something you could misintepret as lewd. AND THEY ALL CLIP IT

>>32182899
Anon, at least 3 views in Holos gets paid for their time. I don't think nijiKR or ID or those 3 views in NijiJP gets paid that we'll despite streaming for 2-3 hours a day for $3-10 and change from SCs.

>>32184020
>Wanting to copy not only Hololive but Holostars too
>Thinking nijinigs make OCs.

>>32184650
Sorry, but in a thread like this underperformance is as interesting to discuss as overperformance. It's all numbers. If it bugs you just go back to /nijien/ or wherever

>>32184478
>1/10 flopped
It is better than 6/6 flop of iluna or 4/6 gen flop of nijiEN. There are simply not many EN streamers to choose from.

>>32184526
Have you find any indie streamers that fit into hololive culture?

>>32184349
The 2nd
I personally value brand reputation and no-drama more than pure profit. You can't fix your reputation with money, no one can
Also it's a safe model for business, you have less room for failing AND it give the old talents time to build their own audience before debuting new shiny toy to attract the tourists

>>32184647
there are no chair for main event. sadge

>>32184647
so right Sis, I'm FLOORED by this GROUNDless accusation, these Holokeks need to sit down and face the truth

>>32184647
You see, you guys keep saying it was the main feature but CR expo was 3 stands more from becoming Holo Expo lite.

>>32183172
>>32183247
Andrew Tate would like this

Millie gonna pass Ame's stream?

>>32184681
Can't expect much originality coming from chink companies like Nijisanji.

>>32184716
the sub 5k shitters are mostly nijien, why would i want to go there

>>32184678
>there are more people willing to clip literally anything Myth does
Literally proves the point that they've successfully built a larger audience than the recent JP gens have, yes. Mindshare is a real thing and subpar JP gens like gen 5, gen 6, or Edengumi and Ranunculus from the nijis have failed at it.

>>32182873
anon your no homo reps

>>32184526
Agreed

>>32184839
JP peaked at Sankisei and Yonkisei and EN peaked at Myth, it's all downhill now
But the question is can they go back up like stock price?

>>32184839
Clipwatchers are not audience, ENShart.

>>32184919
This is like saying holo JP peaked at gen 2 before 3 debuted, baseless and irrational.

>>32182665
>>32182822
I am still mad that I can't talk about Ollie getting fucked by her boyfriend live while collabing with other ID which made all of them uncomfortable in hlgg.

Mythkek is getting arrogant again huh. Reminder Council have higher ccv median than Myth.

>>32184674
Please give iluna more time anon. they still just in their debut buff phase, wait until the buff is gone and the true power of iluna will be blown you away. Maybe they can break the 2view heaven like some ex nijisanji id and old ancestors jp members

>Kronii was originally gonna be named Gandr Kronii
Jesus whoever in charge of HoloEN is surely a fucking Fatefag now and want Nasu to notice him

>>32185030
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about?

>>32184839
I don't check for JP clips without EN subs so maybe there are a ton of shit channels there doing the same shit but almost all of EN clips in EN are complete shit and not worth considering as existing.

>>32184349
>Which would you choose? the bad one or the good one
Wow. That's quite the dilemma

>>32185217
Don't give up the Takeuchi HoloGirl dream.

>>32185262
Pekora still hit top clip number whenever she do something hype, exclusively in JP, Miko too
So the clipping games in JP are still strong

>>32184939
Stop gatekeeping, catching up via clips because you can't follow streams is how most people consume their streamer entertainment, and they're just as much of a fan.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1565203412597149696
Looks like holostars’ illustrations for the upcoming Animate Girls Festival (AGF) this November 5-6 is going to be unveiled starting with Miyabi
Are there any other male chuuba groups participating?

>>32185375
SULTAN THEY ARE STEALING YOUR DRIP

>>32185262
They have worth just by existing, they're proof someone was enough of a fan to clip it. Quality is subjective, don't bring that shit in.

>>32184349
I'd rather have a gen debut once a year but for different branches. Like HoloID and EN could give 8 talents each year, 12 including StarsEN now or 15 if they decide to open HoloKR and they're all streaming in their own lane rather than intrude in other timeslots. That's why niji EN streaming at JP time is a meme, they aren't fulfilling their worth. Right now, NijiEN could debut 20+ talents (wave 7 + gamers) and HoloOverseas could be debuting 12 talents this year. Between those two choices, which is good? Obviously the one catering to their own market rather than trying to occupy every timeslot in a day.

>>32185375
FUCKS
I thought it was the pettan alchemist from nijisanji

Aia is declining, Scarle is inclining

>>32182631
Okay, now remove the baseball autist tourist numbers.

>>32184349
>but it is a gacha of talents
Jesus what the fuck is up with number one's recruitment team. Why are they so incompetent?

Give me number 1 debut window, with number number 2 recruitment team

>>32185375
Oil king chama.....

>>32185533
I don't know why I still have so much empathy for Scarle and antipathy for Aia. Might just be the models.

hi im newfag.
whats page mean in here?

>>32185533
Aia didn't recline anon, she's just returning to her normal numbers, that Drinking Zatsu is an anomaly, not the norm.

>>32185375
They are turning them all of them into girls! Wait shouldn't this fit the Disney Princess more?

>>32185433
imagine thinking all clippers are doing it as a fan and not chasing revenue / views / a trend. If they were doing it as a fan it wouldn't just be 50 second clips trying to be lewd that they knew everyone else would be clipping lmao. Just compare clips Jin would do for okayu compared to most of the shit clips people pump out.

>>32185533
Aia streams just as much but why is it only Scarlet who's the supachatqueen of Iluna?

>>32185533
90k debut btw.
why niji dont use bots for normal stream?

>>32185375
uwwwaaa that tummy

>>32185672
What do you mean anon? Miyabi has always been designed to look girly but not overly so.

>>32183538
They finally let you back in Selenfag?

>>32185375
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
???

Is it really antis/nijiinterns spamming Kronii threads and shilling Nijis in # at the moment?

fuck you faggots. stop fucking

>>32185686
If the target of the clipping wasn't already successful there wouldn't be any revenue/views/trends to chase, period. What you think about the quality of the clips doesn't matter, people care enough to clip them en masse for various reasons and that means they have successfully captured a large market relative to their lesser known peers.

>>32185375
>Lets make our males more like girls
>Why are males numbers so low?!?
ponderous

>>32185780
Rio is a girl

>>32185780
There are a market for that.

>>32185799
>for various reasons
I think it's clear enough they do it for the money and nothing else.

Shu is doing a multi-Z drifting on his graph right now.

>>32184349
#2 is better because it will attract better talent because of the prospect of getting better support from management and getting better number so talented individual if accepted by both company will go to #2

#1 is good if you want to corner every market as soon as possible (not letting other company in) but requires tons of money. But i guess Niji prevented that by lowering quality of merch, their 3d tech and talent support

for vtuber who want to join
#1 is better because it's easier to join but good luck with number you need good set of talent, fight your senpai to the top but i guess its better than being independent

>>32185928
>4 hours of no Z
>Suddenly Sultan-esque cardiac arrest
I wonder what happened to the stream

https://twitter.com/scarra/status/1565201206837882880 looks like magni is going to have a collab with Scarra of all ppl

Fishbone

>>32185965
man i havent watched scarra since he was league relevant so maybe like 8 years now

>>32185965
Oh?
Well. This is it. The Final Yab.

>>32185962
Lunch break time for the chink fujos?

>>32180535
Enna charging up the ranks

>>32185991
For a moment I thought Shu was getting some big funnel from somewhere when he jumped from 6k to 8k, but then I realized it's just another Z / stroke...

>>32185965
Honestly scarra is a good guy but this opens the floodgates for the OTV leeches to start trend hopping like pokimanes/lilypichu failed vtuber ventures

>>32185965
>of all ppl
What do you mean? She's the one who has the most interaction with him on Twitter, no?

>>32184519
>Millie
>Unicuck
Nice joke anone

>>32186069
Scarra is male

>>32180422
How the fuck is risotto holding an 11k average that has to be wrong

>>32185965
Inoffensive dude. OTV is normie but better than Trash Taste

>>32186069
SCARRA, the fat flesh streamer, not Scarle from niji

>>32186069
>She
It's a he, anon. We're not talking about Scarlet here.

>>32185965
Magni is going to eventually have a collab with Bao or maybe even Saruei.
His roommate was close with both.

>>32186064
You faggots said the same thing about them collabing with Niji and look at what happened.
Took them 2 years before they could even collab with a Holo talent, and it's a Star

>>32186069
Scarra the OTV guy not Scarle

>>32185965
That's a lot of collab

>>32186064
Imagine the numbers though.
>xqc and Pekora minecraft speedrun interview stream.

>>32186058
>botinaji
>funnel

>>32186129
i think he fucked Bao too

>>32186021
StarsEN is really a mistake. Kronii and now this.

>>32186180
Tell me a streamer who hasn't fucked Bao

>>32186164
Pekora collabing with a male? Not under my watch

>>32186100
Some people /here/ still hate him for @-ing Gura for a Sykkuno collab to troll him 1.5 years ago.

>>32186209
Me

>>32186129
He was REALLY close alright.

>>32186137
Yea it took them two years to get their foot into the holo threshold and it only took the males to make it happen. Magni is likely going to collab with all the LA streamers now as a vtuber now that he has proper clout.

Predictions for gura's gameshow?

>>32186241
t. Lily

>>32186021
No final yab. HoloEN is going to become even more side-branched than they already are, I hope the management and fans are prepared for the incoming new reality.

How does Tempus still manage to get as many viewers as they do? I thought it was all debut buff?

>>32186230
Ahhh. That's fair. At least Sykunno probably told them off and stopped. They know the holobox at least, I hope. I'm okay with Stars being the collab beggar toys, they need it anyway

>>32186230
I guess the good thing about the brand separation is that I doubt magni's potential audience cares much, they're basically building from ground 0 so anything goes

>>32183927
>ollie
>has 1m subscibers
>losing to anya
Eat shit.

so its happening i remember one of the few ways i was spitballing Stars not being total failures was leaning on the twitch scene. They didnt become full on sub 1k shitters like I thought but it seems theyre still looking to network with the twitch scene, neat.

>>32186287
So I guess that whole thing about being lonely because of people being cold to him on his PL was just a strategy to gather pity points, huh?