/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just start relentlessly shipping them until it annoys her.

The comments are incredibly funny. Just like Kronii, 50% of them don't actually understand what the problem is.

Isn't she starting drama herself by asking people not to start drama?

>>32118084
Shut up whore. I’ll ship whoever I want. It’s imaginary dumb stupid fuckin cunt!
This is why JP and ID are better. EN needs to go!

>>32118355
Yes, its why addressing drama, even when you are in the right is a dumb move

>>32118084
I don't even know who this is.
>>32118247
Ghosting a woman is the true nuclear option. Don't even validate her existence.

>>32118355
yes oc she is no one relly cares its just her shes retarded

oh she knows what the real issue is, its just that (you)s not wanting to watch males with female is not her problem so she dont feel like addressing it.

>>32118084
>why would anyone date someone from the same workplace?
I’m convinced she’s genuinely retarded

I unsubbed for shits and giggles. Haven't watched EN in months anyway because the content is always low quality.

>>32118535
You can't ghost her because she literally doesn't even know you exist.

>>32118084
Thank you for posting my clips multiple times OP

>>32118535
kek
don't pretend like you ever talked to a girl

>>32118861
'You don't dip your pen in company ink', has been proverb since 1998. Don't project your creepy mentality onto your so called idols.

>>32118084
still need those SC tho

PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL !!!

>>32118861
Is she saying that NoeFurea is not a legit?

>>32118861
She's actually wise as fuck, you don't date people from your workplace or from your social circle (unless you are 100% sure they will leave the circle in case you break up).

>>32120082
i dont believe in ppl breaking up

>>32119399
neat proverb but it has absolutely no bearing on reality as the world doesn't function according to quippy platitudes. The workplace is literally one of the main ways that people meet/hook up and find their partners because for a lot of people it's their main day to day social interaction and they have no other means beyond this.

>>32119385
He's right though, khv.

>>32119399
>>32120082
He's stating the reality that in every workplace, men and women are literal sex pigs.
No matter how many company mandated sexual harassment videos we are forced to watch, I still see my coworkers actively flirting with each other at work and constantly hooking up and causing drama

>>32118535
>I don't even know who this is.
lmao.

>>32120252
doesn't matter if he sounds like a 14 year old faggot

>>32119837
She walked that back already.

>>32119259
>>32119385
>they don't know

The irony of a clipper titling it that knowing full well it is their fault.

>>32118084
something something streisand something

>>32118305
Shows how braindead many in the fandom can be. Literally the type of people who'd form strong stances on a topic just by reading news headlines and nothing more.

no one has the balls to start the drama except one guy and that one guy will get absolutely mogged by the fans

>>32119837
I mean, it isn't, but I don't think that was the point she was trying to make.

>>32118084
White Text
Red Outline

>>32118084
Damage control? She told you sad fuck to get a fucking gf and touch grass. Lol the absolute cope

>>32125478
Lmao the mental gymnastics of unicucks never cease to amaze

>>32125000
en clippers are scum with hearing problems for the most part

>>32118084
only thing worse than a dramafag is a drama clipfag. Concider eating a bullet instead of eating cock.

>>32118084
Suggestion ignored

>>32125694
The retarded narrative that Kronii laughed harder than she ever had in her entire career in that DbD collab was 100% not a narrative being pushed by her fans. It was being pushed onto her fans with a very clear agenda, to get the reaction they did for the past day, and it worked.

Anybody pretending otherwise is a shitposter.

>>32125643
I wonder how unicucks feel about the women in their family.

>>32118305
That's called reflection anon
She understands but by lying she controls the narrative

>>32118517
What would be the right move because ignoring dramaniggers allows them to multiply

>>32126111
On here it was one very miserable retard, too.
Kept invading every single Holo Thread as first post writing about Kronii x Altare, kinda creepy.

>>32126111
Now we're blaming others because unicorns are subhuman trash that can't control their closeted homosexual tendencies like being jealous of another male in this case regis and having menhera break episodes over dumb shit being emotional thunder cunts doing things actual fags who suck and fuck dicks get stereotyped for irl. Cope and seethe. The fact she has to talk to grown ass men like they were kids is already embarassing as whole. Neck yourself.

>>32125000
The clipper made Kronii collab with men?

Oh nooo, she's going to become 1 view like Ame did and graduate like Ame did! We can't keep getting away with this unicorn bros!

>>32118084
Just saw the thumbnail this clip and opened vt immidiately lmao

>>32126523
>closeted homosexual tendencies like being jealous of another male
Bruh... only straight guys can be jealous of other guys, gay men don't give a shit about women and they're notoriously promiscuous.

God EN clippers are the absolute scum of the community, and they just allow other retards in the community to congregate and jerk each other off with their false assumptions as to what the problem actually is.

I would just like to sat that I unsubbed the moment I saw screen shots of her in vespers chat and tweeting at the boys. Writing was on the wall and cutting ties saved me from having to care about this. I think anyone else who thinks like me should've seen it coming

>>32126523
As clearly demonstrated, a shitposter.

>>32118084
Why don't ENs take a page out of Gura's book and realize that adressing or bringing any attention to shit stirers will always have the opposite effect, no matter how good your intentions may be? Why can't they just ignore it and let it fade away? It's honestly so simple but they just don't seem to get it.

>>32118305
It could be that you don’t understand there is no issue and you need therapy?

>>32126376
Here’s the thing unless the drama is something on the scale of murder and rape it goes away as long as it’s not fed. There’s a reason it’s the go to tactic for people in general.

>>32118355
She can't be retarded enough that she genuinely thinks anyone (or at least a vast majority) who watches her actually has a friend of the opposite sex, right?
Asking to "not start drama" is the 1# way to start drama
istg unicorns are gonna get a chuuba to graduate at this rate

>>32118084
I honestly didn't expect her response to be this stupid. The bar was low but somehow she managed to exceed my expectations. Well done Kronii.

The only way she could've done worse is said "I love sucking tempest dick."

>>32126547
>>32126111

>>32127113

>She thinks shipping is the problem at hand
She doesn't get it at all. She insults her fanbase, loyal or otherwise, doesn't understand why they got mad and then thinks she's streaming to a different fanbase than the one who actually watches her. Literally every mistake that she could have made she did.

How hard is it to understand that the whole "idol" thing is just CUTE GIRL. That's all it is. Cute girl who also does things and is just generally amazing. What kind of person joins an idol company and then thinks she can just not be a cute anime girl? Men are not cute girls ffs.

>>32127659
I still can't believe pekora bought a fucking monkey.

I don't care what you call me I don't like watching whores. If I did I would be in /soc/ and watch onlyfans. I want a niche, a place where women don't act like slags, I don't think that's too much to ask.

>>32127563
The fuck is she suppose to say? Oh I'm sorry I was wrong despite the fact I've mentioned I was open to collab a week prior? Let me just take it back? Double down on it like Ame did? Patronize like Bae did?

She was in a situation where nothing she did was not going to be twisted into its own narrative. She was being gaslighted and she chose to try to compromise. The one thing she was very clearly tired of that I think instinctively came out of the entire thing was whatever she says will get misinterpreted anyways. That was very telling of the whole situation.

Is this about the collab with males thing?

>>32118084
>get told to not start drama
>starts drama
You are only proving her point retardchaama

Is this about the male collab?

>>32127836
Was Kronii acting like a slag at some point during the stream?

>>32127925
Yea a few upset anons from here were trying to donate shipping SCs because they were pissed at the collab.

>>32127843
Just shut the fuck up? It's literally the Easiest and safest move you can take.

I always wanted a Oyasumi Punpun oshi. An actual depressed, self loathing, self destructive girl. She's now discovering that happiness is not gonna come without punishment until the bitter end. Hopefully it doesn't get that far, but you what they say about being careful what you wish for. I was never careful. Let's go, Aiko.

>>32127989
Yes

>>32127989
It was terrible anon. She laughed…ON STREAM

>>32120082
Anon there are stats about this, just Google it. 22% of married people met each other in the workplace. Before dating apps existed it used to be way more than that.
People date and hook up at the work place. And Hololive has no restictions for dating between talents, only between staff and talents. That's the reality of things

>>32128129
timestamp?

>>32128218
No... Not my perfect clock wife...

>>32118305
Faggots in comments

Ive never seen Kroni laugh that hard when she laughed at the blue haired dude. Looks like Timecucks are going to join in with the Team/Deadcucks.

>>32128306
goalposts?

>>32118084
The only thing that's Damage here in your Stupid Jelly Brain
Do us a favor and Rope it out!

>>32127703
She calls her sips HOMIES
What are you talking about she is retarded (just like her simps)

She is a boring and talentless all she has are her voice and booba model. But still think that viewers care about her content or personality

>>32120508
At work, as in in a workplace. They're all meet shut INS that in kronis case lives Ina completely different country. How much of a duck do you have to be to get jealous over a girl that doesn't know you, over a guy that she'll likely never meet irl? Unicucks are the biggest drama fags

>>32128578
Oh, so nothing actually happened? Thank you, shitposter-kun

>>32128578
What? All the dude asked for was a timestamp.

>>32128707
Yeah, okay keep telling yourself that. If that were the case why join the "shitposting" thread.

Shipping is not what the drama is centered around lol, though it certainly is a problem for the people who actually want cross collabs because they are the ones who are shippers.

Its like she didn't actually see what her members were talking about, its not necessarily shipping but collabing with men in general and doing so without mentioning a schedule. The hilarity that Gura is the only true EN idol at this point, even members like Ina or Irys I wouldn't be surprised to see embracing the disgusting men

>>32125478
Holo is not special anymore

I knew she was a ticking time bomb

>>32118084
Thank god none of the ENs i watch have joined moris nijisanji wannabe co-ed clown show.

>>32128780
To shitpost, you moron, that's the only thing this godforsaken board is good for anyway.

>>32128791
Then why fags like you crying over something that "isn't special anymore" get fucked retard.

>>32128064
You expect her to be silent over retarded assumptions and just take whatever bullshit she's given with a smile?

>>32126523
You sound upset

>>32128885
yes. her fuckup was not warning people. if you sneak in an unpopular collab people are going to flip the fuck out.

>>32128854
Neat

>>32128786
Then what the actual FUCK were they actually talking about, you fuck?

>>32128854
True, this board was a mistake. We need to go back to /jp/…

>>32129238
"channel" was a mistake.

>>32128786
Based

>>32118305
To understand what the problem is, there would have to be a problem. There are only schizos caring about things that are retarded to care about.

>>32125249
That's 99% of people out there. Why do you think the MSM does it? That's why we live in a clown world.

>>32127703
>idol company
>pretending that dyrbi
Nice larp.

>>32126252
Exactly. No way in hell management is not badgering them with demographic breakdowns of their audience. It's simply good business.

>>32127989
She was, get this, talking to m*les! Not just that, but ones that weren't >>32127836!

>>32118084
>dramafag thread
>over a hundred replies about a thumbnail
>no one bothers to actually post the video the thumbnail is from
/vt/ in a nutshell

>>32129950
You forgot to mention that it's like 70% ESLs pretending to be the HoloEN fan base.

>>32129897
She needs some correction in her life, it seems

>>32129950
It's literally the same video you've already seen, clipfags are on it like flies on shit, because drama generates views.

>>32125000
clippers that actually create content that makes the community supportive and understanding, giving nuances, and giving an overall feel of "oh, this vtuber actually has some nice qualities that are pretty entertaining and non-controversial!" are literally non-existent especially in the EN sphere.

>>32118084
>ISRAEL
https://twitter.com/HololiveMemes/status/1564842236390563840
https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1564845574276661248
https://twitter.com/SaberGaius/status/1564829774152962049

Kronii is trending on twitter, these subhumans tourists are from retarded twitter memes page, not surprisingly.

You see, watching vtubers is stupid.

There is no rational reason or objective value you get from watching someone else just sit there and play videogames. Not even at a competitive level.
Just kinda sitting there babbling about stuff, and also them expecting money from you.
Do you think you could just forget about your job and play games all day and expect to make thousands of dollars? It's peak entitlement.

Until you understand that the value you get from watching them is not rational, but emotional. Vtubers are there to make you feel a certain way. Just like all forms of art, they inspire emotions in people. Emotions so compelling that people feel like donating and supporting that thing.

This garbage about,
>"nuuuuh don't start drama, don't ship me with people, I'm not your gf I can collab with males"
all of that is completely rational and logical, but it's the antithesis of your business. That has no place in your activities since the only reason you have any success and profit and fame is that you're playing the feelings of people in the first place.

You cannot get logical. There is nothing logical about putting on an anime skin, arbitrarily never showing your real face so people won't think about the real person, then play some kusoge everyday and expect money, numbers, company support, friends, fame and influence.
At least with anime they have the decency to give credit to the actor. Vtuber is even more dishonest.

But I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It's just the art and entertainment business. Many artists understand their position and audience, and there is also those who are entitled and expect money just for spouting their opinions, then blaming the audience for any blowback.

Simply, don't watch people like kronii who don't really have any interest in you. She hates her model, she hates males from the tweets of her PL. You mean nothing to them.

Support those who are at least trying to respect your feelings, and don't ever fall for the "you're just being a needy incel, keep supporting me or you're a jealous virgin" shit test.

>>32130520
mucho texto, homo. Stop trying to make /vt/ /v/, fag.

>>32130520
based reflection anon
>>32130836
based retard

>>32130520
based chad

>>32130836
I'll simplify for you ESL.

Vtubing is all about feelings. Vtubers should care about the feelings of their audience or expect blowback.
If they don't, they and their craft is absolutely meaningless, and they don't deserve respect.

>>32130994
>Vtubing is all about feelings.
vtubing can be about anything, vtubers are just streamers with an anime avatar and can express themselves in a variety of ways.

>>32130994
>Vtubers should care about the feelings of their audience or expect blowback.
What if their gimmick is being a dick to their audience?

>>32130324
lol

>>32131300
Objectively, yes.
In general, no. Why stream at all when you could make only videos. OR do you know any vtuber who doesn't play any videogames?

Logically sure, there could be educational vtubers, vtubers doing crafts and teaching skills, helping their audience like Dr K. But that's like the one percent or less, and not representative of the industry.

>>32131362
>What if their gimmick is being a dick to their audience?

That's valid. In fact, having boyfriends, showing your face. Anything is valid.
It depends completely on how your audience feels about you and how you make them feel. If you can actually respect them and their time and money.

Kronii joined Holo fully knowing it was an idol company. Knowing she would have limitations and the kind of audience she would inherit by proxy of the Japanese audience.
So by not respecting that she is saying she only joined for money, instant gratification, or expected to gain an audience then pussy whip it around to her taste.

It just leaves a sour taste in the mouth. If she wanted some audience that didn't care about her collabing with males, she could have been honest and started from there.

>>32118247
Only way to burn the bridge between the branches at this point honestly.

>>32131663
>Kronii joined Holo fully knowing it was an idol company.
Her JP senpais had plenty of collabs with males, it's not an issue for Hololive.

>>32118084
There is a pleasant feeling knowing my existence as an unicorn makes people seethe, cope and dilate, knowing I exist and people like me actually have influence over hololive to cause this level of seething. She publicly adressing it and cutting the male shipping from the start is a step, I hope the drama makes her stop collabing with males too much. Cute girls doing cute things is in danger and I will keep being a schizo to save it.
Gachikois pay for the most merch and SC, that's how it works faggots, put your money where your mouth is.

>>32118084
Wow. Just wow. Talk about non-apology

>>32131874
Based

>>32118355
Streisand effect, yes. Also Kronii ought to know better than to be a rulefag and constantly berate her chat for trying to interact with her, she is becoming Calli 2.0. They are hags posing as 2d waifu coomer bait and nothing else, yet they have the ego of a hollywood superstar. They should get off their high horse and acknowledge that they are nothing without their stinky, low IQ, butt-ugly, deluded simp paypigs but another twitter thot with an anime avatar. Even Calli is pretending to tolerate her fans... for now, watch as Kronii starts doing ERP ASMR's when her sub count plummets for her hot takes like Finana did.

>>32131663
This

Vote with your wallet and with your time. Drop Kronii, stop watching her shit and stop engaging with her and slowly but surely all the trannies currently infesting her community will leave too. They are like parasites that stick around to destroy the shit you love, so once they think she's dead they'll move onto the next bitch to infect.

>>32118355
Kronii pretends to be retarded but this is part of her 10D chess plan. You see, she hates streaming. So when people 'piss her off' or 'cause drama' it gives her an excuse to be like 'oh geez guys I gotta take another 2 week break'. She's a genius.

>>32131842
Not all of them.

Of course, it's absolutely possible to have collabs with males, that's not the point. But she has to understand she made a bed and now she has to lie on it.

I really don't like Mori, but she shattered that expectation early on and by now she more or less expects the reactions of people.
People like Melody or Ironmouse cream themselves over their male collabs and their audience (their remaining audience at least) don't care.

Kronii on the other hand, joined holo, had a model with her chest exposed, yuri baited so hard with Fauna and Mumei. Profiting from the feelings of people, then act surprised then that support is pulled away when she betrays the feelings she herself built up.

Again I repeat myself
>Getting mad about kronii collabing with males is not logical, but neither kronii's career is.

If you're gonna collab with males, say you're non-binary, bitch about the male gaze, then just say so directly instead of leading on your audience then acting mad when the mask comes off.

>>32132131
I don't care if troons and normies call me a schizo, the wormpill is absolutely 100% true. There's no way they are real people anymore, troons and fags are simply brain parasites puppeteering a corpse to do their bidding, to infest and kill as many hosts as possible.

Hey i saw another one
Man, Management is sure in hurry to contact these people

>>32132131
>>32132455
>>32131874
>>32128480
Get off the keyboard, Gabe.

>>32130520
Do you know any vtubers beyond the entry-level shit like Hololive, Nijisanji and Vshojo?

Honestly, my issue isn't even with Kronii collaborating with men. It's expected to happen every now and then. So long as it's kept professional and they don't start flirting and fucking each other on stream, I can deal with it by just not watching those streams. Their personal lives are their personal lives.

The problem with Kronii's 'message' is more that she didn't make her stance clear. She never said she wouldn't flirt with them, that she'd never fuck them during off-collabs and post about it on twitter or talk about it in a zatsudan afterwards. She never said she wouldn't be in support of random, unplanned collabs with the Holostars. She addressed issues that were never a problem and left the rest to us to guess at. That, to me, is the biggest issue here. She made a bunch of blatantly false statements and then pushed us to formulate our own opinions without committing herself to an answer.

>>32133025

>>32131663
Exactly this. I don't even mind collabs with males, some of them in the past were nice, but her and Calli really give the "came here for money and fame" vibe and simply want to collab with male just cause other western vtubers do it (same goes for Baelz). Just go indie, join Vshojo or do the collabs with your alternate

>>32126111
Yeah it was s-tier trolling of probably the dumbest fanbase in hololive. That some kronies fell for it is amazing

>>32127261
In Kronii's case she's always preferred to address things head on. She also doesn't really care if you watch her or not. She doesn't do gfe like gura does. And she's not trying to be an idol.

>>32119399
>has been proverb since 1998
And people have been doing it for way longer

>>32127989
>S-he l-laughed anon...can you believe? She laughed...how can I go on?

>>32133004
Yes. I have been watching vtubers since 2017. Animare, Tenmakinin ver G, Gamebu, small indies, I'm old and I have watched thousands of vtubers.

A career as a content creator (not just vtubers) it's always a rule that creators always live or die by their audience. Sure you can do anything you want, if you don't expect or care about money or fame.

But if you build an audience and profit from them, you better as hell respect their values, their feelings and times. It changes for all kind of creators. Very different audiences.
But this dumbass yab Kronii is having is a classic blunder. Build an audience doing shit you don't care about, see them as paypiggies, call them entitled, then act surprised and shocked when you betray those feelings and cry about harassments.

A tale as old as time. Millions of content creators always fall in the same hole. Do whatever to get popular/make money/get attention. And then cry when it's not the kind of attention you wanted.

The only options you got is to keep pleasing your audience (like Gura) or accept it's over and be ok with losing numbers, make a new audience. You can't bitch about fucking yourself up.


It's like paying a prostitute $200 for 2 hours of sex, then imagine in the middle she says to you "Wow the previous guy had a bigger dick, I can't even feel yours".
-Logically do you have any right to be mad? People have a right to free speech....
-Emotionally? Absolute fuck up. She can expect a slap. She should have know what kind of man goes to a prostitute and what that man expects and feels about her.

>kronii
>unicorns
I thought she had no unicorns. There's no way an unicorn would pick her up, considering her background. How the fuck did this happen?

>>32133595
>I'm old
how old are we talking about here?

>>32133619
It's just antis and the very few unicorns she had throwing a tantrum.

>>32133619
>considering her background
90% of people don't look into PL, and mods and jannies scrubbing everything doesn't help.

I find it hilarious most vtubers can only exist because they hide everything about their past.

>>32129181
Disagreeing with the other anon a little bit.
Everyone has their own reasons for not wanting the collab and it gets lumped together.
Some people just don't want the collab because came to hololive for cute girls doing cute things not cute girls doing cute things with guys. Kind of like if they suddenly added a guy main character half way into all girl anime.
Some people just hate the shippers and unity people that will show up and spam their shit to try and turn the scene into a
twitch/nijisanji/vshojo lite before leaving once done.
Some people just like pretending there is something more with the vtuber or living the fantasy. Bringing in guys breaks the immersion so now they lost the reason to even be watching hololive over other people.
Kronii sort of answered the first one but she ignored the other two.

>>32133682
/jp/ oldfag kind of old

>>32133789
so like 25?

>>32133619
People like different types of people. I was baffled by the concept of people actually being gachis until I became one.

>>32133769 (me)
kronii answered the second*

>>32118084
No. You're a Holostars cocksleeve now. That's just how it is

>>32133914
and that's a good thing

>EN drama channel
>never goes against the big names, only dare to shit on small minority or publicly acceptable target like unicorn or idolfags
>always side with the bigger name or the one with bigger support
>only post screencap, tweet, post or clip that are recent and only from official source
>never post rumor for fear of being questioned about their authenticity, will not post anything from roommate account for fear of being labeled a doxxer
>just boring shit with no deep info, no additional digging, no new info, and no insider info since no connection, sometimes doesn't even post the material because yab
>is only forwarding existing info out there
>is afraid of death threat
>fandom agree with your opinion but still won't watch you
>has to resort to clickbait title, big red letter on thumbnail, and inject metatags to bait view
>can only get shit views mostly from dramafags
>no one give a shit about what you think, chuuba doesn't even know you exist

>JP drama channel
>going against the big names is like everyday business
>peddler rumors and other exciting rrats from imageboard
>digging out everything from roommate tweet, event photo, doxx info and many other, even has insider info that are provided by chuubas
>first to broke out the story or new info instead of forwarding existing info
>probably receive death threat everyday, doesn't care anyway
>fandom hate and disagree with you but can't help watching your stream
>can get high viewership on livestream
>your video ripples through the industry, chuuba will quickly contact you to clarify thing or damage control

>>32129238
It was much easier to drown out schizos when discussion was kept to generals in /jp/. That is before mods stopped giving a shit over petty /qa/ drama and vtuber threads started flooding the /jp/ catalog.

>>32128229
This. I guarantee you a Holo and a Star have hooked up before just like how Nijis have been screwing around for years.

>>32131874
Correct. Respect your biggest fans and you'll get the respect back. Gura has her PL shit and IRL shit with whoever but as Gura she maintans her existence as an idol that chooses to avoid collabs with men. This is why despite being the biggest she gets very little shit from her subs unlike Mori, Bae and Kronii.

>>32134103
it was better back then…

>>32119399
Yeah and CEO banging his secretary has been a trope since like the 50s.

>>32129897
You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This degeneracy? She's done worse. That collab! Are you telling me that a man just happens to talk to her like that? No! She orchestrated it! Kronii! She DEFECATED on her fans! And we saved her! And we shouldn't have. I took her membership! What was I thinking? She'll never change. She'll never change!

>>32134587
I'll never not laugh at one of these retarded chuck memes kek

>>32134124
>they don't know that the Tempus boys are nepotism hires from their girlfriends
Axel = Bae
Altare/Vesper = Open Relationship with Kronii
Magni = Designated circlejerker for all the JPStars

>>32131902
She did nothing wrong, she does not need to apologize for anything.

>>32134750
You're right, what she needs to do is never collab with a homo again and we can all move on

>>32134750
I actually agree. This collab was a nothing burger at its core. Nothing happened there that could truly be considered a 'yab.' If anything the 'explanation' clip was worse than the collab. Kronii would have been better off just saying nothing, letting it blow over, and then proving her stance with actions instead of words.

>>32134919
>Kronii would have been better off just saying nothing, letting it blow over, and then proving her stance with actions instead of words.

The problem is she is in denial of what her value as a vtuber really is.
If she was self aware, yes, saying nothing would have been better, accepting people would be mad.

But she must believe people just follow her and throw money at her for how clever and smart and talented she is, and that otaku unicorns are just pests and completely unrelated to what she offers. Zero self awareness.

>>32134750
>don't ship
>it's crazy and gross
I came here to laugh at you not be abused

>>32118305
>>32125249
>>32126252
so what is the problem?

>>32127703
>>32128677
seethe faggots

Kronii is inconceivably based and everyone here is just mad that they are too voluntarily retarded to have friends of the opposite sex let alone a relationship with one, and it's somehow everyone's fault but yours.
cope and sneed

>>32134750
> Flirt with male on stream
> Nothing wrong

>asks the audience if they don't have friends
>of the opposite sex
So many chuubas really don't fucking know their audience

>>32135068
What if, and I know this requires thinking the best of someone, she genuinely felt concerned about her fans and really just wanted to mollify people, assuage their feelings. She may have fucked up and did the opposite, but it's possible she said all that to try and smooth over hurt feelings.

So what are the best CGDCT anime since I apparently can't get that from chuubas anymore?

>>32135435
She literally didn't though. You're delusional and hyper possessive.

>>32135611
Don't really watch CGDCT but I heard a lot of people like K-On and Yuri Camp

>>32136152
Yuru camp sorry

>>32135465
It's hilariously naive of her. Not only misunderstanding her audience but outright making fun of them at the same time.

Hi! I am a deadbeat!
How are you?

>>32135465
What male has female friends anyways, those people are either fags or lying to themselves

>>32136271
I myself don't, but it only takes going outside for a moment during the night, anon. Most groups of friends include men and women together

>>32128695
LDR is a thing

>>32128944
>says the unicuck placed on suicide watch over women working with men.

>>32118084
why do clippers do this? and before you say money its not worth the 5 bucks below minimum wage Jewtube gives you

>>32136152
Non non biyori

>>32136613
For the top ones they actually get paid well and become part of the streamer's friend group. Look at Cooksie.

>>32118305
That just shows how schizophrenic /vt/ has gotten at this point. Kronii doesn't understand the problem, most people don't understand it either, only retards here do because they're the ones who made it for themselves.

>>32118305
Probably because /vt/ is full of schizos who need to touch grass.

>>32136730
Gura understands it perfectly though.

>>32136829
Sure, sure.

>>32135611
Azumanga is still the king because it has actual jokes

>>32136730
kek

>>32118305
What exactly is the problem? I just watched the clip and it's correct.
1. Don't shit where you eat (work relationships) is correct and true.
2. Normal non-autistic schizoid shut ins are friends with both men and women without it being purely about sexual desires.
3. People were already starting shit and throwing fits online before the collab happened. So this didn't come out of nowhere despite people trying to act as though it wasn't provoked in the slightest or that she's projecting on them. This thread exists as fake outrage.
4. Only really extreme fans or trolls pretending to be a caricature of that actually think about these women in such bizarre pseudo relationship ways. And Kronii out of all people never pandered to them so that's their fault.
5. Can we stop having this same bait thread 3 times an hour to entertain the tourists here?

>>32128075
actual schizo

>>32136730
Wrong. People elsewhere understand the problem clear enough. They're just too afraid to voice their opinions, while on here there's no ramifications for doing so.

>>32118084
sorry bro, my social credit hivemind where the mascot is literally an NPC with anthena says i should tell you to touch grass and kill yourself

>>32136937
I wonder how many Kronies who don't come here also aren't in favour of Male collabs but just have to sit there and watch the streams they used to enjoy leave them behind.

>>32136923
> Can we stop having this same bait thread 3 times an hour to entertain the tourists here?
Only you along with the other “touch grass lol” normalfags are the tourists here. Heed to your own advice and strut on back to Twitter along with your well-adjusted.
People who have opposite-sex friends do not belong on this board.

The pro homo mantra is being parroted so much here recently I don't even know who the real Kronies are anymore.

>>32136613
Because SEA actually do earn more money in their little clipping sweatshops than they would doing whatever else in their small ass fishing village.

>>32137163
We're really not though. Anyone who posts this "go back" bullshit is always just a troll from that website. Enjoy your vt kek screenshots.

>>32137287
Tempus turned out to be good, it broke a lot of people.

>>32137540
>turned out to be good

>>32137287
It's mostly shitposters having found a new stick to hit hololive fans with. No actual hololive fan would be such pro homo, otherwise StarsJP wouldn't have been such a failure.

>>32137602
Yeah, sorry, "great" is the more appropriate word

>>32137540
>they just play games all day ! it should've been me ! reeeeeee

>>32137602
denial exhibit 100

>>32137731
I wonder how Ayame feels about the amount of Koreans joining the company

>>32137951
>Ayame
I don't know who that it but she sounds like someone who doesn't exist let alone work

>>32136829
Yes gura is as schizo as /vt/. It's why Ame dumped her.

>>32118084
Honestly this incident may cause her to be super cautious and nervous about everything when collabing with guys. That added stress might drive her to not want to do them anymore. Hope you all are happy.

>>32136829
She don't understand it, the only thing she knows is to fear her fans

>>32118084
so sad to see a disingenuous bitch giving life to such beautiful design

>>32118084

>>32118084
literally one fucking phrase
>don't start drama
and you start moaning immediately

>>32118305
oh kronii understands 100%, that's why she went back on twitter to say that she's ok with kronmei shipping but not with m*les

>>32138631
Please tell me she saw this edit

>>32137287
Nijifags using them to shit the thread

>>32138631
>Guys trust me we're all legit 4channers down to the 4chan bone! That's why we love posting Twitter screenshots and memes!
Honestly I think the Twitter deadbeats and Mori are all to blame for this kind of spam we get on the board. It's like Twitter alphabet retards got a whiff that some nerd somewhere was raging about this and they decided to go with 4chan because it represents some fictitious evil (the hacker known as 4chan), and here they can play at both being that raging nerd and the people baiting them. It's an entirely performative action where they just circle jerk over phantoms they've created, or phantoms who at the very least don't live on this board in any sincere way.

>>32118305
it's clipwatchers. they don't watch streams at all. maybe they also follow on twitter but that's it.

>>32118305
most of the comments calling people incels were mostly greyfags and obviously giftedfags as always

>>32137163
Damn bro.. Take your meds already

>>32136923
Imagine having female friend lol

>>32118247
>>32131712
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1564866697617887234
captcha: otpkhn

>>32136379
No most friend groups consist of guys and their girlfriends who are only there because of their bf.

>>32131663
>OR do you know any vtuber who doesn't play any videogames?
yeah there's /lig/ chuubas who don't play games at all and make other content (typically singing, zatsus, ASMR)

ITT subhumans dramafagging.

>>32137093
Less then 1

I keep forgetting how young and generally retarded most of you faggots are. Like all of this is real for you, moreso than actual reality. Go outside, make some real acquaintances, talk to some real girls and get laid. It's not that hard. And if you're truly unable to accomplish any of that you should definitely consider suicide because that shit is the minimum barrier to being an independent, functional human being and it only gets harder from there.

>>32141309
Actually based and the true conclusion of this thread.

>>32141309
based.

>>32133301
The ones who fell for it won't have a way to confirm, anyway. They wouldn't watch the collab in the first place.

>>32140799
Who is the chuuba that does a lot of zatsus? I like chatting streams I dont give a shit about games. I can play those myself.

>>32118084
hope it bites this cheating bitch in the ass with the power of a thousand suns

>>32142152
Watame can talk all (jp) night. I've used her for listening practice for months

>>32118084
Hi kronii,
i've moved on!

>>32133025
Kronii never had a clear stance about anything, Her debut was 100% coomer bait, and then she hides the model. If she wanted a more "reserved" design and having normal interactions with people....well nijisanji exists. Its easier to make money as a woman in holo, simple as that.

>>32118084
This shit's hilarious precisely for what >>32135465 and >>32133595 are talking about. The disconnect is so hilarious and the resulting suffering is makes it even better. But it'll continue anyway. Collab was absolute kino btw

>>32141309
>>32141681
>>32141959
Samefaggery really? Just because you wait doesn't mean new IPs all of a sudden join the thread. Stop acting like an oldfag

Either way, statistically, dating and friendships are in a wasteland in the steadily approaching Cyberpunk dystopia. It'll get far harder to get true friendship and love no matter what in the future. Why is this surprising to you? Do you get surprised when you hear about terrorist attacks in the Middle East too? Going outside into the wilderness bit everyone should do, only good piece of advice there.

In b4 Mucho Texto

>>32131663
You know what I think you're right. What a fool I was to almost pick her up again.

>>32133113
why did you post the retard from twin peaks

>>32140966
>then

>>32142578
the freebies say cheap words
the payers all leave
just gonna laugh
mix with the Fuck up mori and the lowest tier bae who fucked up and collab with all bunch of idiots who shit on hololive/competitors.
RIP her perfect stupid ass brain

>>32131663
>Kronii joined Holo fully knowing it was an idol company. Knowing she would have limitations and the kind of audience she would inherit by proxy of the Japanese audience.
That might be correct if EN wasn't a branch under the direct control of Omega who seems to hate the idol company shtick.

>>32142578
Every single post you replied to is mine, thanks

>>32142578
Actual schizo
>>32141309
>>32141681 (You)
>>32141959
>Samefaggery really? Just because you wait doesn't mean new IPs all of a sudden join the thread. Stop acting like an oldfag
If more than one person disagrees with me than they're all just one person conspiring to make me look like a lunatic!
If this isn't bait, all of those comments these girls make which makes you retards go even more insane are true and you're living a self inflicted life of hell which you'll never liberate yourself from. I really hope you're just retarded and 14 and are still afraid of girls or something. Otherwise this is truly pathetic on some cosmic level.

You know how she could prevent this drama? By not collabing with men, you dumb whore. I know you’re reading this. Stupid fucking cunt. You’re the maidenless one, you chink dyke.

well kronii when you gonna move out to a smaller apartment
since you know, can't pay rent with all your paypigs leaving ?
all you got left is just your tourist free watchers.
Rice has left hasn't he.

a fucking monke, dude

The disconnect of calling an audience who spends hours watching an anime girl streaming "maidenless" and saying "don't you have female friends?" it's worth stupid moment of the year.
WHO THE FUCK does she think buys dakimakuras, lmao

Why do kroniifags keep deflecting to pekora's bush baby

>>32142667
why did you ask him

Must be very hard listening to a simple request.

>>32141681
>>32141959
>Parroting commonly held opinions is based.
I recommend you zoom zoom newfags look up the definition. It doesnt mean "thing I like".

>>32144763
God forbid people aren't miserable such as yourself. Go be an authority elsewhere please

>>32137700
I think StarsJP (and even their fanbases) are actually very good, it's just the usual issue of Japanese being an esoteric language so obviously English is far more popular especially in these parts. I would watch them more if they didn't share timeslots with my oshis.

>>32141309
>verbal diarrhea version of touch grass
this is really all you malecucks have? pathetic

>>32144763
I've been going here since 2005. I'm in my 30's. I'm just a functional adult and you can't distinguish anything from the boogie men in your mind.

>>32144763
Zoomzoons dont use this board, they cant handle a nigger or fag

>>32145641
you don't get grandfathered into being an oldfag. you act like a newfag therefore you are one.

>>32145802
If you're an oldfag you hate VTubers so what's the point in grandstanding?

>>32145343
StarsJP also does more variety content and has less schizo fanbase. The more I see the bronies sperg out, the more I'm convinced that Hololive as a whole must be pretty stupid if they have so many degenerate fans.

>>32141309
>It's not that hard.
Yes it is.

>>32145849
>If you're an oldfag you hate VTubers
stop trying

Holoshills make fun of the average fan and then in the same breath try to make people feel bad for not watching something like that one post about Bae’s new song. It’s pretty funny honestly

>>32129950
if he posted the video I'd call him a shill on top of telling him to off himself.

>>32134072
>EN drama channel
>youtube eventually nukes your channel after the corpo takes notice of you

>JP drama channel
>sued into the ground by the menhera you wouldn't stop shitposting about

going for the big names doesn't always work out, Japan's anti-defamation laws don't fuck about.

>>32125000
Name it

>>32135465
>>32136271
The guys who say things like "Don't you have female friends?" probably don't have female friends. Only nerds with no female friends think that platonic friendship between men and women was possible. Women may say that it is, but they do so in order to justify keeping orbiters around and not because they seriously believe it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

>>32141309
>the solution is to have sex

Ask me how I know that you are a woman

>>32118355
It's a big-ass Streisand Effect. If she just said nothing it wouldn't have the opportunity to be noticed beyond posts raging here and a couple members.

>>32135560
>just wanted to mollify people, assuage their feelings
The only thing she wanted to "assuage" is the backlash, and only the one that was immediately apparent to her (red superchats with ships between her and the guys).
If she actually cared about the feelings of her fans, her actions would do all the talking.
Of course there is no way that she does care because she barely understands the problem in the first place.

>>32147124
Just because you think your female friends are attractive, doesn't mean you are in a perpetual state of trying to fuck them.
With clear boundaries between each other (aka respect), there is much room for an enjoyable friendship or at least enough for a courteous acquaintanceship.

>>32147970
nah if your friend is attractive what's wrong with a one night stand. as long as it's consensual of course

>>32145889
Am I wrong though? The old guards of both /a/ and /jp/ despises VTubers. Every other board also hates them.

>>32118084
>"don't start drama!!!"
>will continue to keep doing the thing that riles up the parasocial fanbase
I used to think vtubers were in on the scheme and will provide the entertainment lonely nerds want but I realized the women behind the avatar is still dumb as bricks because they're women and they're all spiteful as fuck when something goes against them, they will never learn and this is only the beginning for kronii's drama filled vtuber career. It's a real shame women like this can't just shut up, play along, collect the fat paychecks, and go on with their day, they always have to fan the flames for ego reasons. They should be somewhat grateful that they are being carried hard by "simp culture" which is like 99% lonely men with a lot of money.

>>32136923
1. irrelevant
2. extra irrelevant
3. irrelevant
4. go back

>>32148200
This is the kind of thinking reserved for the dregs of society.
Its always funny to see how my lessers think

>>32136730
>how schizophrenic /vt/ has gotten at this point
You are the tourist.

>>32148356
Did you listen to her spiel? She's very aware of her parasocial faggots, and she was basically encouraging them for half of it. Her discourse is more along the lines of "don't assume I want to fuck him just because I talked to him", she was trying appease her paypigs.

Why do well written sensible comments like this get slammed? Why do these people even watch hololive? Is everyone just scared of getting called an incel? Are we the only sane ones here. Its all so confusing.

>>32141309
>>32141681
>>32141959
go back

>>32148687
If you're pro homo, you're a cuck.
If you're anti homo or CGDCT enjoyer, you're an incel.
Both sides generalize and demonize the other, and very few people from either side are willing to listen to opposing opinions and engage in discussion.

>>32148687

>>32148851
I hate reddit so much. I mean also hate here, but I can't leave. The only thing I do know is like cgdct

>>32118305
That's a good thing, I don't know why /vt/ is losing their shit over this.

>>32147124
if you can be family, you can be friends
simple as
intereviewing on uni campuses which are basically just horny daycares at this point is not reality

>>32148679
yesh, don't you have any female friends????

>>32118084
>don't start a fire
>but I'm gonna hand you the lighter fluid and some kindling
What does she expect?

>>32118305
>>32129566
>>32135068
>>32135158
The problem is the steady inevitable encroachment of twitch
complete homogenization of every group to the same neutered content
>inb4 but what about fox and festival
people like them in events, but they dont drive solo streams anymore a reason, its not unique
>>32148687
like this redditor
if I want to watch males and cross collabs, I can already watch nijis or twitch
the crowd that shouts 'incel' considers it categorically 'problematic' if there's any group of streamers that sticks to just women or just men

>>32126111
Kek get fucked. I was one of those shitposters because I don't care if Hololive becomes a different company. I dabble in vtubers solely for the fact that there is a unicorn collective that I can treat as lolcows whenever this shit happens.

>>32149458
This anon gets it.

>>32148967
The funny thing is that the people who are crying out how this is the end of Holo and how CGDCT is over are themselves generalizing every single Holo and Star. In EN alone you have Gura, Mumei, Fauna, Kiara and Ina who all don't want to collab with males and will keep the CGDCT vibes strong, and then you have Mori, Bae and Kronii who are willing to collab, while Ame is still undecided. Just how there are fans on both sides of the argument, there are Holos in both sides too. And JP seems to be overwhelmingly in the former. Yes, a few Holos will start doing more male collabs now that they have homos that speak their language, but the majority will keep trucking along with CGDCT. And that's not even accounting for the fact that solo streams will still be the majority of the content for every member anyway.

>>32118084
Any holo that collabs with men is a whore and I don’t watch whores

Theres so many tourists in this thread its not even funny

>they're still on HoloEN at this stage of the game
Anons, you either need to go full schizo with your name attached (and let whatever happens happen) or abandon ship. I chose the latter a year ago when I saw the writing on the wall

It's time to stop coping.

>>32118084
>>32118084
It's funny because she already cucked Kronies multiple times but every time she does it they're like "I'm angry but I'll wait to see what happens next".

Truly the biggest cucked fanbase in the entire Hololive, even worse than teacucks.

>>32150207
you sound like youre selling me a ponzi scheme
sry bud, you shouldnt have sold

>>32148578
t. incel

>>32149053
There are biological mechanisms that keep family from breeding.

>intereviewing on uni campuses which are basically just horny daycares at this point is not reality
And it gives you an idea of what a VTuber company looks like.

>>32149583
>In EN alone you have Gura, Mumei, Fauna, Kiara and Ina who all don't want to collab with males and will keep the CGDCT vibes strong
Only Kiara made statement about that and based on Gura behaviour we can safely assume she won't ever collab with males.
Rest that you mentioned are a question marks. Putting them as certain in "no male collab" is disingenuous.

>>32149583
I hope your right. For the kroniis sake I wish she was upfront. Like I honestly like Bae, she's the perfect side girl, and I appreciate how upfront she was about being a stars fan (I didn't like her condescending speech to us, I did like it when she told beggars to shut the fuck up). But it's a little scary when this is all happening in the same tight knit branch.

>>32150207
I still like Gura

>>32147970
>With clear boundaries between each other (aka respect), there is much room for an enjoyable friendship or at least enough for a courteous acquaintanceship.

>>32150832
There aren't mechanism for that. That's why the modern family exists is to prevent inbreeding. When you examine tribes in various stages of barbarism you notice that family developed when people realize it's bad for parents to fuck their kids and breed, then they realize it's bad for brothers and sisters to fuck

>>32150207
I was just like you. Sold holoEN in 2021 and moved to JP

>>32126903
I mean unicorns call people cuck when they are the only one who are jealous

>>32147124
This is only true if you literally have no standards.
If you have any standards, you won't want to fuck every girl you're a friend of, they're essentially an extra dude.

>>32150850
Fauna knows exactly what's she's doing and her audience. She's seen what happens if you say are a streamer thag says they have a BF or something. She's stoked to be where she making bank and molesting gura.

>>32150558
>take a look back at the trajectory of HoloEN for the last year
>"You shouldn't have sold"
I'll say it again: it's time to stop coping.
>>32150558
She and Kiara will last the longest, but will fall as well. I was a chumbud too.
>>32150984
I took the small corpo piill which didn't go well either but that's another story

>>32147124
If any of my female friends weren't dating my friends and propositioned me for sex I would instantly agree.

>>32151227
>She and Kiara will last the longest, but will fall as well. I was a chumbud too.
was meant for >>32150896

>>32150850
Fauna, like Gura, has not even aknowledged the Stars' existence; she once was ending her stream and was wondering who to raid and the only ones live at that moment were Altare and Vesper who were collabing, she proceeded to ignore chat and instead raid IRyS who's stream was still 3 hours away, and when she was having tech issues people told her to DM Vesper offstream as he's the most knowledgeable holo when it comes to tech, she ignored chat and picked a single comment that recommended Ame instead. She is very much pro CGDCT, anti homo.
Mumei said that she joined Holo specifically due to the all-girls vibes, she's not gonna collab with males.
Ina seems seems content to do her own thing and only collabs when asked to, which is the exact thing that StarsEN do, they don't request collabs, meaning both sides are unwilling to ask for a collab so it won't happen.

>>32150982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_taboo#Instinctual_and_genetic_explanations

>>32151135
>This is only true if you literally have no standards.
You just have ugly friends.

>>32151398
>has not even aknowledged the Stars' existence;
She has. She told them if they're interested go watch them. And she welcomed them to "HoloPro" . It wasn't until after that we've heard literally nothing coming out of her about them.

>>32151574
Some of them are average, but yeah that's the fucking point retard. Ugly friends are a thing, and they're platonic since you're not gonna want to fuck them.

>>32151398
While I suspect that Fauna will go Gura way I'm still not certain. I give her 90% of being "anti-male collab" faction.
>Mumei said that she joined Holo specifically due to the all-girls vibes, she's not gonna collab with males
She literally did. Gartic phone collab with starsjp. That's why I have no idea where she really is, because she suddenly spoke like that..
>Ina seems seems content to do her own thing and only collabs when asked to, which is the exact thing that StarsEN do, they don't request collabs, meaning both sides are unwilling to ask for a collab so it won't happen.
You ignoring one issue. Possiblity of middleman organising collab. Someone like Mori.

>>32149511
you are more broken than any of them
rope
> becomes a different company
it will become the same as all the rest

>>32133595
>But if you build an audience and profit from them, you better as hell respect their values, their feelings and times. It changes for all kind of creators. Very different audiences.
But this dumbass yab Kronii is having is a classic blunder. Build an audience doing shit you don't care about, see them as paypiggies, call them entitled, then act surprised and shocked when you betray those feelings and cry about harassments.
This is one of the best breakdowns of this that I've seen.

>>32133595
>But if you build an audience and profit from them, you better as hell respect their values, their feelings and times. It changes for all kind of creators. Very different audiences.
>But this dumbass yab Kronii is having is a classic blunder. Build an audience doing shit you don't care about, see them as paypiggies, call them entitled, then act surprised and shocked when you betray those feelings and cry about harassments.
This is one of the best breakdowns of this that I've seen.

>>32151227
If you can focus on your reps, JP is possible.
Pick a holo who speaks clearly and relatively slowly like Mio, have Jisho or another online dictionary up during vocab-heavy streams like zatsudans to check unfamiliar vocab and add them to your flashcards. You can practice reading their tweets and making your own sentences tweeting their hashtag at the end of streams. It's a treasure trove of free learning material, you can have fun and pick up a new skill while avoiding the rising dumpster fire that is EN.

>>32151643
Oh, my bad then. However, it doesn't change my point, she's still done her best to ignore them so I don't see her collabing with them.
>>32151772
Mumei was very awkward in that collab, almost never spoke, and the general consensus is that she didn't really want to be there and only agreed because Bae invited her.
>You ignoring one issue. Possiblity of middleman organising collab. Someone like Mori
You're right, actually. I can see Mori organising a drawing collab between herself, Ina and Magni. But so far Ina is in the no males camp, even if it's only because she's really in the leave-me-alone camp.

>>32151985
>JP is possible
All vtubers are liars with boyfriends/husbands, milking lonely men for their money. Every stream, every tweet and every last word is completely and utterly about money. If you knew what I now know, you would be horrified.

I've gone back to anime, and only come back here out of habit.

>>32142203
She was never fucking you, who the fuck is she cheating on?

>>32151957
I would've been satisfied with her just saying "things won't change, trust me bro" but then she went ahead and called everyone who had a problem with it incels without even realizing what the core issue is. That's where she lost me. Not to mention the absolute dumbfuck way she had going about it. Settled nothing, and now we're back to smoke, mirrors, cloaks and daggers.

>>32151664
Low test male

>>32152679
Would YOU try to fuck la criatura?

>>32152939
Pics

>>32142203
Meds

>>32152377
I mean we all kinda know but we're paying for the illusion. It's like going to the strip club or buying a prostitute. You think she loves you and is loyal? Fuck no but when she with you she acts like she is. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the charisma, money, genetics, connections, to get women in the wild so we need something to curb the pain and scratch the biological itch.

>>32152679
>>32151574
you keep conceding your point lol

>>32133595
>Do whatever to get popular/make money/get attention. And then cry when it's not the kind of attention you wanted.
Pretty much the story of everything that's ever gone awry with HoloEN. That and shitty management.

>>32152377
sry anon i dont believe you
>>32153197
yes thats the point

I just want to say, this HoloEN fanbase meltdown has been absolutely hilarious.

Keep it up guys, I can't wait to see the breakdown once Gura and Ina collab with StarsEN by the end of the year.

>>32148687
When people think they have the moral highground they start to speak like they're the majority and the idiots who don't know anything about the matter agree with whoever has the loudest voice. Repeat this for every braindead redditor and you have 42 downvotes.

>>32153593
Ina maybe she's so milk toast I don't know if it would have the reaction Kronii did. But then again I never thought I'd see her flirt with a m*le on stream.
Gura clearly saw where Ame went astray and ran in the complete opposite direction doubling down on GFE lite and appealing to the whales.

>>32154059
It just boggles me that so many people get so "triggered" by someone saying something as tame as "male collabs aren't for me I used to watch nijisanji but stopped because it wasn't fun, but anyway good for Kronii wish her the best"

>>32153197
>It's like going to the strip club or buying a prostitute
Wrong. That's porn or JOI you're talking about. Satisfying sexual urges and long-term pseudo-intimacy (which is the format of vtubers) are 2 fundamentally different things that satisfy 2 different biological needs.
The real-life equivalent to a vtuber relationship would like a hostess that you got to meet 3 or so times a week, talked about both your and their real lives, played games for or even with you, heavily implied they had no boyfriend and that they didn't do it for the money (and also treated you just the same even if you didn't have money)

Vtubers are like JP idols on fucking steroids. You may think you're detached and the relationship is as transactional as can be, but once the shit hits the fan you will realize that your mind didn't really differentiate between it being "real" or "fake" after all.

And why would it? You're literally using it to fill an emotional gap in your heart, not a "fake" emotional gap.

Regisbros how we feeling about our chad bro getting some korean pussy within weeks of joining hololive?

>>32154757
I'm happy he made Kronii come out of her dyke, man hating shell and depression, and she's made him get over his hatred of women. Truly the best couple in all of HoloPro.

>>32154366
To me it all looks like a pro-cuckoldry vs anti-cuckoldry argument, anti being any sane man and pro being redditors and lefties. Their whole worldview hinges on this matter and they go crazy just knowing someone thinks differently.

>>32151664
>Ugly friends are a thing
Not for me.

Get some standards.

>>32118247
Commissioning art of them fucking and sending it to her PO nox

>>32154955
>Kronii come out of her dyke, man hating shell and depression
Never was the case, she just hates the types of men who watch her. She's fine with hot guys.

>>32148820
seethe

>>32119399
That’s an interesting one that I’ve never heard before. Reminds me of “don’t shit where you eat.”