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Aren't continent names solved?

>>32118771
Still haven't been voted yet. Vote should start on Friday but no one has volunteered to act as the Vote Organizer

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>>32118936
I'll organize.
>>32117982
Use this bread, I have a post labeled about the vote upcoming (came out like 15 seconds earlier.) We will see if we can recycle this one.

>>32118936
What are the latest proposals?

Fine, no one aside from Zetabro is using the other one. I will get the proposals ready since I will be VoteAnon.

>>32118213
To be specific, it's "land *" where * is an o that triggers the spam filter.

>1. Approval of the Swap of Anya-Petra Global and Warkop. Vote on where Warkop should be placed (All suggestions should use the terrain map please. I will be refining this more myself. and other suggestions should be made that we can trim.)
>2. Province System, if it is finished
What else was given up to be voted on?

>>32119393
I read Warkops lore and I like position 2 as the V7 rep personally as it looks better and will allow the thread to be represented better. I do not thing Warkop needs to lose lands in Petra because it doesn't really effect anything.

>>32119132
There was that picture with Ailivia and Indiea, does someone have it?

>>32119393
Should we bring your cleaner Nijimap (kek again) to the table? I know you said you wanted it for the 3.0 but should we now?

Ah shit, /kr/ indie guy here, are we using this thread?

>>32119940
>>32119803
Noted given you are neighbors, which means something to me and speaking as a LazuLight rep and not voteanon, I think that needs to be considered in this.
>>32119940
(Yeah, I know.) I would ask this thread if we should. I think we honestly should because of the switch going on now just so both are done. It's up to the other Nijireps however if they
a. Approve on voting on it
b. Like the borders.
I made mistakes in my last map that I aimed to fix with this so we can have it settled long term in regards to potential splits (We do not have the luxury of making provinces due to all of the threasds having reps.)

>>32120164
Yeah, I am here. Got my hands tied but lay on me more about Indie culture and the scene. I copied your notes on to my docs file for this so I eagerly await.

>>32119393
>>/vt/thread/S31882462#p31892742 and picrel as third option for issue 1.

>>32119803
We still lose land that can be given to Threads that have yet to be added/created. The leftover territory can be recycled with the province system.

>>32120927
Noted. I am eager to hear from Warsuner, who is the main Holowriter for Warkop and Hanafag, their rep regarding lore as speaking as the LazuLight rep, I think the lore for me is just as important if not more than the potential recycled land.

>>32120927
Given free space is coming in really handy to welcome new threads in (like /yah/ just yesterday), I think this proposal would be beneficial, whether we go with provincing or not.

>>32120616
Gimme a few seconds, there were a few posts I made in past /vnug/ + /kr/ threads that could be useful, I'm going to search for them in the archives.

>>32120616
>On collabs with males.
It depends on the specific Korean audience. Because there are tons of different audiences in Korea that all have different ideas of how streamers should be.

In fact, when the old pngtuber cartel was at the height of it's power, they did a shitton of shipping content. The volume of it was so much and it happened so often that it makes the Mouse + Connor pairing look incredibly tame. Even outside of pairings, they still collab a lot even today, like pic-related, a collab between two pngtubers that recently converted to vtubers, one male, one female.

Funnily enough, the reason why the pngtubers did so much shipping content was to avoid unicorn drama, but because they leaned so hard into it, it got Horseshoe Theory'ed to the point where shipping drama became just as bad if not worse than unicorn drama.

>To add to this
If were not talking about how male-female collabs are like with streamers in general, I think a lot of the current generation of vtubers (more inspired by Hololive) generally stay away from male collabs although that isn't always the case.

If we're talking about Korea culturally, then due to Confucianism there has always been a high degree of separation between males and females in society. However, I don't think that this cultural element is a very good representation of how the Indie/Corpo lands or Mujigae sees things as both NijiKR and some KR indies have less reservations of doing collabs with males.

>>32119263
Its a no right?

>>32121673
Oh, I'm a freemason.

>>32120616
Here's stuff from my own notes, mostly outdated, but use the bits that work at your own discretion:
Alright, let me compile what I have so far for /kr/ (indie/corpo):

>Using the Polish-Commonwealth as a base, the land is a loose confederation with nobles ruling regionally, all with different ideas of how to run the country
>Each region is representative of different philosophies surrounding vtubing. These can be presented as different interpretations on the same religion, kind of like the Protestant-Catholic divide. The border region towards NijiKR represents the JP-styled vtubing, and the region towards /vnug/ represent KR vtubers that mostly speak English (i.e. Tonya, Miori, etc.). While the center represents the local KR scene, where things can differ very drastically even between smaller regions. As the KR vtuber scene is still growing this region is always in flux and quite unstable.
>The geography of the region is flatland. And the area is incredibly rich in minerals. Because of this the Isegye region (since they have big numbers) are incredibly affluent economically but try to stay neutral (representing the fact that they're not talked about a lot in the thread.)

>does that imply the presence of an elective monarchy?
Yes. However, the aristocracy holds a lot of sway over the decisions of the crown. Functionally the King has greater power, as written in law. However, this is only a written rule, and it would be frowned upon if the King actually acted in this manner.
I feel this best represents the fractured nature of the KR vtubing scene as it is now, with various separate groups all with very different ideas on what vtubing should be represented, yet disorganized.
>Is there freedom of religion inside of the indie-corpo region
Theoretically yes. Additionally, most regions of the /kr/ have the same religion, however, interpretations of each vary significantly, (this part is much closer to how Confucian doctrine was argued over rather than Christianity, but still a mix of both), religious freedom does exist however, and regions like Isegye (who irl have very little connection to the rest of the KR vtubing scene) have a completely different religion than the rest of /kr/.

The faction split as of now will be:
>The Streamers
Based off the irl "Virtual Streamer Gallery" on the KR internet, who like JP styled vtubing as they are a splinter from NijiKR fans. In the world, they are culturally similar to /nijikr/. They also represent former NijiKR vtubers that have reincarnated after graduation as indies.
>The Hakkos
Named after another irl KR vtuber community ("Small Korean Vtubers Gallery", basically Korea's version of /wvt/). They are different from the Streamers and they have a particularly antagonistic relationship with them.
>Isegye Region
Representing Isegye Idol. Their high numbers irl translate into lots of mineral wealth, making them quite an influential region. They have very little cultural similarity with the surrounding regions however.
>/vnug/ Border Territories (need a better name for this)
Representing the Korean vtubers that mostly use English, ruled over by Shabel Tonya, (by technicality also includes Miori, since she also falls into that category). They are the most neutral faction, but they have little connection with other regions.

Additionally, in terms of writing philosophy, my approach to writing the region will be trying to canonize as much of the real life history of KR vtubing and related history going back from 2017 to now as part of the lore/folklore of the region. This will include:
>The KR pngtuber cartel
>SE:A and Choy, early forays into vtubing during the Kizuna Ai/Kaguya Luna "Heavenly Kings" era of vtubing.
>Decay of the pngtubers
>Brief history of NijiKR rise
>The rise of various smaller indies (especially Maoruya)
>Fall of NijiKR including the Ara incident
>Schism between KR and JP styled vtubing
...and various other irl history will be re-formatted and stylized as part of the /kr/ lore.

>>32120927
>>32119393
i hope my opinion as the mhm rep, given proximity would matter here.

With the province system, a case can be made to not have lands given to warkop in the area which i am in. but i disagree with that because
1. warsuner has made it clear he has plans with excellent lore potential.
2. we already have a lot of free land upcoming
3. isn't the provincial system based around those who want to pick their size? in that case, i think hanafag's opinion should matter, so long as he isn't asking for all of anya or bakatare.
I will leave my choice of location to what he and warsuner wants, as i am eager to have more lore potential with mhm and warkop raiders. i would ask the rest of reps to consider these points

>>32120616
Ah found the thread:
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/30485581/
Search for "indies" and you'll be able to find a lot. I also go into a bit of discussion about the pngtubing scene which has some impact on KR vtubing as it is today.

>>32121913
>>32121663
Noted. I will try to get this synthesized into a culture later.

>>32121881
That's a joke right? I'm kind of nervous about that stuff

>>32122088
Also noted.

>>32122202
What do you have against freemasons? We're cool.

>>32122243
>>32122136
>>32120616
Anyways ask me if you got questions or if there's places I can clarify. I'm an open book!

https://rentry.org/yry6m
I started writing >>32078450!

Ok, so since i am the main writer along with mepper for Holos in Warkop and see that other anons value my own opinion, I believe that spot 2 would be ideal for my plans. Warkop is a thread dominated by Kobokers, Indie, HoloID and NijiID in that order. it is also one of the most unstable and shitty threads on this board, dominated by tribalfaggotry. Hanafag wrote it as such on purpose when we were down in the south but up here we have more opportunities, as the Kobokers in this thread are basically catalog/number niggers who hate anyone who isn't Kobo. As such, option 2 would be nice because I plan on making the Holoside fragmented as it was in the south, with Kobokers dominating the land. I also think that they should be a menace to shipping in the region and raid the Indie/Niji side which will be less populated because its in the jungle. While I am not a rep, I do believe that potential lore should be a priority here because the province system is designed to allow nations to pick their size. I think that the size in option 2 is ideal and makes the most sense given our thread. I have no vote but this is my case and I would hope you would consider it when voting.

Updated Warkop placement maps, please make your cases for whatever option you prefer and what you overall think of this.

Futhermore, what else are we bringing to vote? I don't know if the Provincial system is done. We can try Continents, if someone wants to pull up the proposal from an anon about the continental divide between nijineutral and holo, I would add it.

>>32122297
The secrecy for one, the idolization of Solomon's Temple, and the tendency to follow people around are a few. I just don't like the way they influence things but especially in regards to Hololive. They're messing with things that best be left alone and drag ignorant people into it without them knowing but i guess individuals aren't the biggest issue with them so you're probably fine I guess. probably shouldn't mention it in here I suppose

>>32122808
That's some nice prose anon, good work. I love when anons include characters with a connection to a chuuba in their story, and that song was really nice too... Characterization is good too! Especially the captain. Looking forward to more.
Will you anchor it?

>>32123553
Guys... He knows, engage protocol #66.6 on this anon.

>>32123498
Also giving this to see what fellow Nijireps think of these border adjustments. Emphasis was placed on cleaner borders and borders that can allow splits to be made easier. I took land from Rose in their north because NijiEN needs more land for iLuna's internal placement. And furthermore, as you all know, these borders aren't an accurate representation of the interior borders.

>>32122808
Great work on your story, the characters are strong, I like the plots and how things are portrayed. Nice prose and style in your writing overall. I enjoyed it and I am proud to have helped you, if nothing more a little bit, in creating this. Great work, my friend.

>>32124037
PPsenpai, can you adjust the border with nenmen and nijien to make it cleaner? I think it looks great and has given me ideas about things like iLuna in our thread! I want to work with you on how your history translates to NijiEN and iLuna in particular

Eyyo we have an actual unironic mason in here?!

>>32123498
Provincial ain't nowhere near complete, we still gotta divide the other continent's and set up and discuss rules for interacting with repless nations in the future. Before we put it to the vote, the entire proposal will be brought up to the thread to discuss.

>>32124289
Yes, problem? not really, how do you join the freemasons anyway, for engineers we did a ceremony with robes and an anvil and got a ring, professional cults are kino

>>32118467
>what if high concentrations of the stuff converted all energy to heat?
it's an interesting idea, but i'm pretty sure 100% efficient energy conversion breaks some kind of natural law, probably one of the laws of thermodynamics. someone correct me if i am wrong.

>>32124189
Yeah, I can do that. I think most will be alright but Rosebro needs to know that the land he lost can still have Rosebutas in it.

Imagine bothering with cults when you could spend that time getting wasted with your homies in a garage or something.

>>32124537
You're right, with waste heat being the exception. A resistive element does 100% electrical-waste heat energy conversion, for example.
You might argue that the entire universe is a machine that will eventually convert all the energy of the Big Bang into waste energy.
You're correct for all other forms of energy conversion, however.

>>32124650
Dude, what if your cult is your homies.

California is like a hotspot for cults. Scientology, Unarius Academy of Science, Ordo Templi Orientis, Charles Manson
what the fuck

>>32124776
Then that ain't a cult, that's called being bros, bro.

>>32116364
Thanks. I've lurked here and there from the beginning, The arctic area is a pretty bad spot, which conversely makes it fun to shape and conveniently reflects our isolation.
>>32116705
>>32116835
Long distance imports of cheap salted meats and potatoes, and more local sweets and pastries then. To go along with the local game. I like it, sounds pretty hilarious.
>>32116373
Faintly, eternally, it still lingers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAb-Deg8R14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmjBuWNPmjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ArDbvfds9k

>>32124879
Even if we wear robes and sacrifice virgins on altars?

>>32124934
that's just typical bro activities.

>>32124902
You sure? The arctic is schizo alcatraz
The jannies banish all the schizos there

>>32124934
Nah, true bros don't bother with that, all you need are some lawn chairs and a cooler. A true bro would never hurt anybody. That ain't the bro way.

Alright I updated it a little and gave some spice to some borders. Nijireps, tell me what you think.

>>32124689
that's pretty cool, desu. what about when large amounts of heat cause stuff to glow, though?

>>32124934
Why do sacrifices always emphasis on young adult virgins?
Just use a baby or a kindergartner. guranteed virgins

>>32125096
That looks good, yes, Rosesenpai needs to know that these borders are just general borders, he can have Rosebutas in NijiEN.

>>32125154
Not even the devil would stoop to the level of a /uoh/ poster.

>>32125096
I like these as well. It looks better than draw in the lines in the rivers. /yeah/ supports.

I probably shouldn't post this but made a thing about how hololive is being corrupted by this stuff. Its a little long but if you take something out of it, its worth the read. If you want to do your own research, I prompt you to look at the HoloX logo and compare it to the Freemason symbol. files.catbox.moe/gro0pe.pdf i hope this doesn't give away which poster I am

>>32123737
>>32124037
Thank you! Her singing Fukurou is actually what made me decide on how the story should go beyond “Mujigae people getting killed by Palkyries”! She sang it again a few days ago in the membership stream so I clipped the one from an earlier unarchived stream instead. I tried my best to give the convoy more personality since I think that’s an important part of making decent slasher/horror works (especially in this case where the killers will be more like a force of nature). I’ll see if I can expand on other characters in later chapters…
I’ll anchor it once I get more of it written down!

>>32125179
>>32125257
Ok, I still would like to hear from Alice, Emma, Dragoon, and Rosebro if nothing more. Kindred, despite not being a rep, would be nice as well. hanafag and KR would be ideal. Comfy isn't here, but if he is, him too.

>>32125365
Pentomosis as well.

>>32125044
Yeah that's reflective of the old cataclysms of our thread. Hard times create hard people, our merit. We will have a city in the wasteland centre where the lepers, diseased and afflicted from across the continent can be sent, researched and treated, or left to die. We will have military outposts across the borders with a focus on survival over any kind of glory at arms.
The covid hard times can reflect how a pandemic once escaped the centre and wrecked our people. A schizo breakthrough can reflect, certain drama events.

>>32125154
Black body radiation! That is, in fact, the ultimate form of waste energy. All matter above 0 degrees Kelvin emits black body radiation, and continues to do so until is it at 0 degrees Kelvin. I guess I was using a misleading shorthand earlier by saying waste heat is the final state of energy, when really it's black body radiation.
>>32125300
Woah... We've got a real /x/poster...
>>32125347
Nice, wouldn't want the story to be lost to warosu, I've seen it happen kek.

>>32125365
>>32125096
Good morning ppsenpai, and every one of you beautiful people. I just checked in to give my opinion on the votes.
>stance of /2434/
>1. I approve of what warsuner and hanafag want.
>2. I approve of the Nijimap update (LOL again) because i understand how ninisani works is not portrayed by these borders on greater map and PPsenpai is trying to allow future splits easier to carve and to clean up the borders.

>>32125179
I don't think Rosebud should be pressured into letting /rose/'s borders be eroded when it's a pretty small change in the grand scheme of things. Let him make his decision and respect it.

>>32125347
by the way, have you seen/are the /kr/ or /vnug/ rep? Would be nice to give the general an update on how things are going in the worldbuilding thread.

>>32125510
my only real concern is Rosesenpai in this because I know how anal he is about things (it scares me from working with him, and i feel bad over that.) I hope he will understand the reasoning as this is the ideal situation for us long term.
>>32125686
HEY ALICE!!!! Would you like some kind of port, war or whatever with yeah? i know you talked about it.

>>32125810
I am not pressuring him, rather the opposite since I respect his lore so much that I don't want him to feel that he cannot have Rosebutas in NijiEN.

>>32125812
Mech (the rep) is taking a overall break for a while to deal with things, he pops in every now and then.
>>32125810
I hope you aren't misunderstanding us when we say that the borders are more fluid for Ninisani and that's why she said that.

>>32125834
>Port
Would be nice
>War
Would be fun
>Whatever
We will see.

Please do /yeah/'s lore first!!! I want you to get stuff down before any diplomacy!!!!

>>32125920
>>32126009
I'm not saying anything besides what I said.

>>32123737
Oh, also I haven’t figured out how /vnug/ magic work yet, but I think if it has magic at all, it’s only fitting to base it on Lofi’s lore and give it to (some?) Penelites. Whether the songstress’ magical is intentionally vague so far tho

>>32125812
I’m the one writing for /vnug/ and rep was around last thread. I think only us two plus the anon who knows about /kr/ streaming scene are interested in this project, but I’ll remember to tell our thread how are things every now and then! We can use the occasional bumps during dead hours anyway

>>32126009
>Mech (the rep) is taking a overall break for a while to deal with things, he pops in every now and then.
Ah that's fine then. I was actually getting a bit worried that he might be overworking himself. He deserves the break though, he's already done a lot to represent the general.

>>32126095
then I am sorry, I just wanted to clarify I am not pressuring him at all...

>>32126264
That's good, thank you.

>>32126248
Yeah, Mecha did a lot of good work in getting things set up, and made good lore. he deserves it after dealing with the schizos and all the work.

>>32126095
>>32126264
>>32126310
Yeah, same here. I wouldn't want him to feel that way as we are all equal partners in this, and his opinion matters a lot to me.

the /meat/ stealth thread on /vt/ made it to bump limit. to the guy who said we aren't here anymore, and therefore shouldn't have a nation in this project at all, tell the jannies to be more vigilant, because i doubt they didn't notice it for all that time.

PPsenpai, what do you think?
Yeah:
Cossacks will be Nina, Millie and Enna will be more Russian and Polish. Reimu will be more Iberian, part of the lore connected to Petra. Phantomos settled where they were immediately after the invasion.

Ethyrian invasion wasn’t really an invasion but the settling of the region under the guidance of the Emperor.

Kossacks are nomadic pastoralists that have a few cities but mostly operate within camps. (Their culture is harder to define, Kossacks are maternal however and have a warrior based culture that is accepting of others.)

Aloupeeps are warlike western Slavs, like Poles. Prone to anger like their Goddess but also rather chill and friendly with others like Famillie.

Famillie are basically like Russians and have a lot of mysticism in their religion and culture. Rather chill but also like to cause chaos.

Phantomos are extremely dedicated to Reimu and while not aggressive towards others, are very protective of their Goddess, and their people.

>>32126855
Wonderful Ideas. Actually Kino ideas with Reimu for example and I think you portrayed them well. Run it by their thread too.

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Was testing if I was still rangebanned. Regarding Warkop in the vote. I prefer option 2 personally for the reasons outlined by Warsuner. I want him to have fun with the holos while I have fun with the indies and nijis. He pretty much said all I wanted to say. Maybe we also have a bunch of Pirates operating out of coves on the coast that we deal with as raiders. my objective is to make Warkop the hell it is a lot, and while the territory seems big, we are extremely disunited.

Updated Vote:
>1. >1. Approval of the Swap of Anya-Petra Global and Warkop. Vote on where Warkop should be placed (All suggestions should use the terrain map please. I will be refining this more myself. and other suggestions should be made that we can trim.) Pic related.
>2. Nijimap border updates to reflect future needs
>3. Continent names?
>4. What are the official borders between Holo and Nijinetural continent. (need to make options.)

>>32126855
Do these Aloupeeps crush small animals with their feet?

>>32125096
If it’s alright, could I see a side by side comparison with the old and new? The new looks relatively alright to me, I just want to see the differences.

>>32128577

>>32125591
>send all the diseased from across the continent to the same place
Kind of... anti-logistic dontcha think? The continent is big. Youre doing the equivalent of sending every sick man from Kamchatka to Murmansk
they wouldve died on their way instead

>>32125365
Whatever works honestly!!!!!!

>>32128553
Some pay Chinese women to do it...

>>32128712
A shame about the spike at the top for my nation, it feels a bit more mild now that it is curved. But overall I don’t really mind. I lose land, but I can live with it.

>>32129217
We could try something interesting with the terrain...hmmm. What do you think of hotsprings?

>>32127569
1. Whatever Warsuner, Hanabro, and their neighbors want because if it is good for lore, the rule of cool should apply.
2. If they agree, then yes.
3. Ailivia (I will call it Aliviria regardless) for Holos, rest is up to the revelant reps from those areas. This doesn't mean that i won't stop calling the Indiecontinent Indeia.
4. At the southern border of what is currently Anya-Petra. If nothing else, i differ to the reps of that area such as mhm, v7, watamelon and nasfaqg and support their opinions.

Dragoon, we offered feedback in the Docs.

>>32129217
Our daddies taught us not to be ashamed of our borders

>>32129121
Aloupeeps like scat... Pomudachis like piss... What about the dragoons!!!!!

>>32130005
Tyty!!!! I'll check it out now!!!

>>32130486
Dragoons like handholding and marrying their childhood friend!

>>32130486
Dragoons like guro

>>32130580
based.

Raarrrgghh me want impregnate Ember!

>>32130486
Pregnancy. I remember this well.

>>32130559
True!!!!! Based and real!!!!!

>>32130580
We don't!!!! I think dragoons are very vanilla compared to the rest of nijien!!!!

>>32130655
Leave Ember alone!!!!

Also Panon, mepper asked me to tell you that you have to take care of yourself!!!! Stop being so overwhelmed with work!!!!

>>32130821
I was there kek.

>>32129291
Oh I do love a good hot spring. What’s the plan there?
>>32130096
Especially since they’re such good size and all.

>>32130957
I don't know, that's something that came to my head as something cool. Anything you want cool, we can work out i guess for the map.

>>32130821
gently laying Ember down on the bed on his back
spreading his cute little cloaca open, rubbing side to side
Ember's widdle draconic cocks (yes there's two like a snake) slowly erect up, revealing the modest girth and spikes on his reptilian wang

>>32130765
It's different!!!!

>>32131344
what the fuck is this

>>32131023
Western /rose/ will probably have enough tectonic activities to have hotsprings, especially if they dig deep enough. I don't know if they would be significant enough to show on maps though.

>>32131344
>lewding vtuber mascots
No!

>1. Approval of the Swap of Anya-Petra Global and Warkop. Vote on where Warkop should be placed (All suggestions should use the terrain map please. I will be refining this more myself. and other suggestions should be made that we can trim.) Pic related.
>2. Nijimap border updates to reflect future needs. Pic Related
>3. Continent names?
>4. What are the official borders between Holo and Nijinetural continent. Pic Related
Anything else?

>>32131784
For question 3, how about bringing up that one continent name proposal for anons to review?
I didnt save it, sorry

>>32131784
Am i allowed to vote on something pertaining to me yet?

>>32131868
I think Nasfaqronie has it, unfortunately I don't either.
>>32131884
We really should have clarified this in the By-Law. I might end up adding this as I do believe that this pertains to you and I personally believe you should be able to vote solely on the issues (1, 4).

>>32131884
No, it hasn't been two weeks yet.

>>32131884
Yes, i think that the purpose of waiting pertains to votes that shouldn't pertain to you. 1 and 4 clearly do. 1 because that is regarding your neighbors and 4 because you are part of this continent border.

>>32131973
>>32132087
No, the whole point of this bylaw is to prevent a thread joining only to swing a vote...

Alright, what is the thread consensus on By-Law 5
>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more.
As the LazuLight rep, I think if an issue directly pertains to you such as a neighbor or the continent divide, you should be able to vote. If nothing else, your opinion is important to it.

>>32132175
That's fine and it is why we did it but some have different interpretations so let us voice it, please answer in full below just for the sake of having the opinions clarified.

>>32132200
This would allow people to get around the rule by joining as a thread that is relevant to the vote, and whether a thread is relevant or not to a vote is nebulous and probably subjective.
The current rule is fine, the new thread can still advocate for his position to the other threads.

>>32132200
I agree that the purpose of the grace period is to so that anons don't join to swing votes. But there needs to be some clarification here as my interpretation is in the spirit of the by law, being that for example, i couldn't have someone join as Nene to force a vote on something unrelated to Nene. If the vote pertains to your thread, either the time should be shortened somewhat, or you should be able to vote.

>>32132200
Uhhh, it is unclear and subjective but i think say, /yeah/, should be able to vote on the borders in NijiEN if nothing else. V7 if nothing more can make a case otherwise about their stance on the other things. I don't agree with Mepper or PPsenpai on this because things like continent divides and neighbors aren't a direct matter for a thread.

HELLO FUCKERS IM FINALLY HERE AFTER BEING BUTTFUCKED BY WHAT SEEMED TO BE THE INABILITY TO WAKE THE FUCK UP!

It is fine for me to wait, I wanted clarification. But I agree with Rosemaiden about the borders.

Guys!
>>32125914
theyre back!

>>32132620
I'm so happy...

>>32132601
brother! I missed you! (≧▽≦)

>>32132385
>>32132426
>>32132552
Noted, would Rosemaiden's proposal be a good compromise position. I for example think it makes sense regarding borders or your placement on the map.

>>32132675
Yes, I think it is reasonable. My stance overall was that it isn't entirely fair to bar voting outright when it is relevant. If relevance is that, then I support it as the other anon makes a good point as well.

Been busy with school!!! I will read the stuff later!!!

>>32132675
This still lets you get around the rule by picking a relevant thread to rep as. Two weeks really isn't that long.

>>32132673
AND I MISSED YOU BECAUSE ITS YOUR TIME TO SHINE YOU ADORABLE NUTTER! Remember that I did the exterior part of project NUT! The border patrols and fortificatiosn but I did not go into that much detail about the soft INTERIOR of the country. This is where I wanted your feedback about stuff. Where do you think /risu/ should go as an economy. My only thoughts were that over time, foreign ideals would slowly seep their way into risu tribes.

>>32132808
It's alright, take your time. Can't do much anyway until the vote happens.

>>32132826
Here is my main issue here. I think someone, if nothing else, should be able to vote on their map placement or a border change. If someone has been a rep for say 4 days on this, that is different than someone just joining to mess with the vote. That's my opinion however.

>>32132835
Boss, I am working with the South. I think I want to handle the political, cultural and economic shit down there as I think its going to develop a lot differently given the Oiseaux influence and construction, the raids attacking them the most, etc. Mepper also said that the magical climate from Oiseau would have some minor effects on the south.

I have to take my leave for now, if anyone wants to continue the voting discussion, feel free to update it as needed.

>>32133081
Ah yeah. I believe I gave you the green light on it since you and mepper seem to have really good chemistry. The south is yours friend. Right now I wanna focus specifically on the east/west/ beaches and nearby areas more than anything. I think deeper in the country would take longer to be affected in any major capacity.

>>32133081
>the climate's spreading

>>32133179
What is the South, up to Panrong?

>>32133210
No, it will just have a bit of bleed over into Risu and what was anya.

>>32133219
Pretty much. Mostly the major south area will be around that tiny gulf and all the forts. I would say Panrong would be the limit but include it because of the pro feelings it would have to mep yes.

>>32133668
Actually? Who would be in control of that little gulf? And would it be used? I know that the city of Maumigny would be built there but it seems that the meppers would be using it mainly until that happens. I find it funny the border is right on the middle of it kek. And we each have a side to its opening.

>>32133755
It seems like it would be under Caliphate control.

>>32133797
>had to look up caliphate on warosu
Oh...its the name of the terrorists. Well I guess that shoring up the beaches would be a fucking good idea. Also that gives me an idea for the first prismatic bomb test. Fuckers try to get to our side of the shore just to see a rainbow explosion and one of their ships gets destroyed.

>>32132835
Alright. we need to maintain tribal autonomy while at the same time modernize under a centralized infrastructure.

I believe we should go for a clan-centric guild economy. each tribal clan has their own guild. these guilds are the ones who run the business of that clan. risuners who want to do private business can do as they wish within the clan's borders. if the business involves selling to other tribes or foreigners, the guild handles it.

Mole risuner clan A and B has their own guild, canopy risuner clan A, B, C has their. Each guild represents the tribal clans so business will be streamlined.
A clan can no longer do dirty and supply food or gems to rival clans that dont like each other. rogue tribes can no longer sell forbidden artifacts like gems to foreigners without repurcussion.

Above the guilds is the state economic institution. You can name this if you want. this is where the Church of Risu wrangles the tribes to work together. Guilds are members of this institution and must follow everything the Church of Risu says. Like forcing the guilds to stop selling a crop that is scarce, or deliver subsidized or free raw materials to a developing town, or forcefully reduce prices of a particular good. these orders have a specific period depending on the goals. the orders themselves are a mix of guild submissions and decision making from the clergy. a clan can submit to the Church of Risu to help develop their farms, if it goes in line with the church's objective that year it will be added. If not, rejected.

Tribal guild membership is compulsory with a small tax of labor levy. Guilds are to send some Risuners to work for the church's economic institution for a limited period. like a contract. they will handle infrastructure work like road maintenance (both ground paths and bridges between trees), replacing chuubanite lamps, and help with goods logistics. The clan guilds do business, the church makes sure everything else works. Tribes that do not register is forbidden from doing business with other tribes and foreigners.

as for benefits, ehhh Im stuck here. im thinking that the church would reward guilds that follow the rules with more opportunities. If a high priority foreign trade deal is made the church will pick the guild with the best merit to sell goods. Sure Guild B has lower quality rubber than Guild A, but they actually listened to the church when they said to stop harvesting cashews for two years.

think of the church institution like a publisher helping the guild that make goods.

thats all I could think of. anyone whose good at economics please help refine it ( ;∀;)

inb4 my idea is just renaissance corporatism

>>32135729
God, imagine having to negotiate with the chuubanite lampist union...

>>32135729
>guild system
>church of Risu handles all the shit
Sounds actually pretty damn good to me. WARsuner what do you think about this?

im so glad i have 2 other risuners to do this with instead of making all this shit up myself

>>32136180
Need to discuss this more with Mepper. Guilds should be based on profession, rather than clans. We dont really have the professions to have this yet. We need to slow down and let it happen naturally. As trying to go with this religious thing right now could lead to schisms.

>>32136317
Ill give my own thoughts after lunch. This could go so many ways.

>>32136317
Like here is my general issue overall with Ri2ners plans. He wants to build something without a foundation. We need a couple decades to get things in order to get things right. Get the army and our defenses stable, then let things go naturally. Pomeranian connections, Oiseau, Kronies, Deadbeats and all will play their part. We have to learn how to walk before we run.

Mepper also told me the south may have some iron and coal in it, which would help us to finally make our own weapons in time with his help (he promised tooling and weapons factories.) his reasoning has more to do with making sure his neighbor, us, can properly defend itself in the case of connections being ruined with other powers. Its better to be safe than sorry.i also have this vision of the south unironically being fancy with top hats and monocoles.

>>32136508
It's not really like Risuner society was completely null before the Kronies arrived. Tribal societies have a measure of societal development too.

>>32136508
Cant we just get the church to be more proactive?
risuners are religious so they would listen to the priests and wizards
they could just go 'hey guys if you want to do trade here are some new rules'

>>32136742
First, we need to map out how things worked before we came into this age. The church needs to be active but if we don’t understand pre-protectorate risu, how will we know what to do?

>>32136732
I never said that. >>32136871
See this. We dont really have things mapped out well now. Hell i didnt even understand that we didnt have a national council. What unifies us is our blood and faith, but things arent that clear imo

>>32136742
NTA, but this assumes that everyone would comply with this. That is his point overall i think. We dont know enough about how things work to understand if this works.

Not involved, but i think the regional flavor Warsuner is advocating should be concentrated on before major reforms. This could conflict with what he has planned for example.

Well. Here is the thing. I based risuner society off of Risus Nut Tale video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkgguaGDWGE

The tale begins around 50 second mark. Putting aside the obvious sexual puns in which Risu admits there is plenty, trade is abundant and the economy would be very well established. Guilds would commonly work together to benefit each other.

>>32137348
>basing worldbuilding on the vtuber's content
holy based

>>32137348
This doesnt conflict with what I said. I just dont think you or Ri2ner understand what a guild based economy is. Look at Lusitania, organic explains it well. Thats his economy boss.

>>32137872
No, you dont get it. 2 v 1 you lose.

>>32137872
yes, thats my economy. Ogsuner, pain yourself through my lore and you will understand the wonders of it. Its not based on clans but craft

>>32137979
Honestly, organic can we just get you to work on this for us? You know more on this than any of us.

>>32138054
yeah, i can do it. Its not that complex for me to write up.

>>32138115
>>32137979
How about you focus on your own lore instead of others, liar. Ri2ner’s opinion means more than you or warsuners

Did I miss the speculative biology discussion?

>>32138173
Lie on these nuts. i will help out my friends in risu for free and you cannot stop me. Only ogsuners opinion matters along with the other writers there.

>>32138246
YES, i can. oGsuner mapped this out clearly. You are not involved. I am an actual Riusner so my opinion does matter

>>32138194
Architect, you missed the convo about the thickest, heaviest snake in the continents. It even does live birth.

>>32138246
Why are you insisting on meddling? Typical panon generation loser.

>>32138054
>>32138115
>>32138320
Can you all just give OG feedback and let him write his damn lore instead of arguing with extremely, painfully obvious falseflaggers?

>>32138326
WHEN DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE MISTRESS? THE SAA TRIBE WAS MEANT TO BE A SECRET!

you know you got it made when these losers attack. i feed me your tears, they taste like fine wine.

>>32138435
what are you even talking about, i offered my services and just took a shot. thats it.,

>>32138435
>two of the posts are just a conversation about help
>one is a falseflagger
Strokechama

>>32138556
But you didnt give feedback, you went. “Read my lore, ah screw it i will do it for you.”

Who is even a falseflagger anymore?

>>32138471
Anon, how the hell are you meant to keep something that big secret.
Though it's pretty lowkey, I think most people who got to see one wouldn't live to tell the tale... Would be fun if /ag/ had a cousin of our giant snake in their lands.
Convo starts here, if you're interested, I thought it was quite fruitful. >>32079827

is there a falseflagger again?
Anyways. I agree with warsuner.
>>32136871
We dont have sufficient domestic lore yet
OGsuner wrote about the church of risu but... thats just about it really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
before he jumped onto the WE BUILDIN BOATS saga and /inf/ coming
I based my ideas on the precedent that /inf/ scholars taught us about theocratic systems like they have
also...
The drawing of Ceres shows a medieval era town so i was under the impression that there was some form of organization to build and develop such a thing
>>32137872
guild are like unions right? labourers, craftsmen forming their own union. In a tribal-rural society like Risu we have foragers, farmers, herders, miners, and craftsmen.
wouldnt that be enough?

>>32138834
I think Og can admit we jumped into exploration and cooperation works too fast in retrospect. I would be happy to talk about other things more first. Might not be bad to pause all stories for a while to build the nation

>>32138940
Aye-aye!

>>32138940
NTA, but this whole initiative seems to be more about nation-building than a story.

>>32138834
>OGsuner wrote about the church of risu but... thats just about it really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/risu/ lore sure is deep

>>32139114
yeah balls deep

>>32139114
yeah balls deep
in your mom

Jokes aside .......
we really need to dial back
As in way way back!
1. maps of tribes, districts, topology.
2. RISU DOESNT EVEN HAVE A FORMAL NAME HOW DID I NOT REALIZED!
3. pre-protectorate lore. our battles with Matiyotl, Watamelon etc
4. tribe organization chart
5. church of risu organization chart
Is this good enough, warsuner?

>>32139429
>RISU DOESNT EVEN HAVE A FORMAL NAME HOW DID I NOT REALIZED!
squirrel brain chama....

>>32138781
>Anon, how the hell are you meant to keep something that big secret.
Snake Goddess Hypnosis.
I am very interested in this conversation, I think the giant snake part stopped with the two questions of food and how it would manage to carve out cave systems?

>>32139578
I dont wanna be squirrel brained anymore!! how do I get smarter?

>>32139805
Oh, no it continued, but it's quite a meandering thread...
I think this is the big one re: burrowing and food (solution ended up being to come up with a whole chuubanite fueled food predation pyramid) >>32112862, and then we brainstormed about thermoregulation and viviparous reptiles came up.

>>32139953
This is no biggie to be honest, there likely wouldn't be a name for the whole country until the tribes were more centralized anyway, similar to Amerindian tribes not having a name for America that they recognized as "their" country. This is the perfect time to come up with it.

>>32124650
Hey, some of us enjoy our cults.

>>32139953
stop watching Risu
all the sex jokes, innuendos, and lolrandom zoomer humour has rot your brain

>>32140273
damn. I didnt know watching Risu was this fatal

>>32140399
terminal cumbrain...

>>32140426
warsuner looks fine to me

where's that 'please be patient, Im a squirrel' hat?

>>32140399
do you expect people who enjoys a horny squirrel who goes 'brrraaaaaaaa cooom zone!! wahahaha nuts. booba booba cum!' to have a functioning brain?

bump? where is everyone?

I was reading stuff and writing my story. Didnt even notice the fucking shitfest that was happening. And yeah I said it before we really do need to polish out /risu/ actually works.

>>32131784
proposal for the indie-continent: Corpo-Liberal

So here is my notes on ancient risu long before inf shows up. We get here whenever the fuck we get here and we have our nuts and we use those to plant trees. We plant so many fucking trees that we get rid of our semi arid section and just have a massive forest. Naturally we begin to get really good and crafty with wood and use it for pretty much fucking everything. Houses, weapons, toys, armor pieces (is wood used in armor?) totems, ALL THE SHIT! And because our sex drives are through the roof our population grows like fucking crazy. Risu herself establishes her temple and creates the exclusion zone that only witches/high witches are allowed to enter. The witch circle only has a few members but that slowly grows and with it the powers within the country. As people spread out they form tribes and they trade with each other depending on what they do. Most of the trading would be in nuts (since its our money) but other foods as well. Eventually the sub species would begin to take place as we do different jobs and adapt to our different needs.

Can put more shit in there but thats what I have so far.

>>32128744
I was thinking less of logistics and more of psychology
Not every sick man, but the ones with diseases least understood and most feared. Taking inspiration from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalaupapa,_Hawaii
though it's quite a lot crueler than even that, as they're basically being sent to Siberia to die. Even touching upon fantasy there could be strange curse-like diseases like nothing anyone has seen before, the demon possessed and the spirit haunted.
It's a last stop for the desperate, and a place of study. And though it seems a cruel place in time it is the hope of the inspired doctors who travel there that it becomes a beacon of hope.

Now I have to ask as a newfag, I know we're aiming for 17-18th century right? Do we have rails in this world? Even without rails I assume we've got good road maintenance in the provinces of the old holo empire. Though you're right I should limit myself when I say the whole "continent" that was a simplification. Surrounding countries perhaps.

I'm stuck on this idea because of Kanata's lore as a nurse graduate, and the thread's dark age when she had covid for months.

>>32144549
1750-1760 is the time period in general

>>32144414
Of course, wood has been used to make armor very often throughout history. It's not very good at it, but it's much better than nothing. Wood with thin plating of metal or boiled leather are also possibilities.
>>32144549
I think it's a kino idea, anon! Lots of neighboring countries to send their hopelessly fucked up to you. Just among active neighbours, I think Luna, wah, kfp, morig, mans, towa, maybe others, could possibly send their lepers on those hopeless pilgrimages. It could be a bit of a religious tradition, with a whole chunk of lore dictating how those pilgrims are equipped and received throughout the continent. You should go for it! Also, no rails at the moment.

>>32144549
rails itself are fine but no trains

>>32144725
>>32144804
>>32145181
Thanks. I'll put the hospital city closer to the capital in the south, subarctic climate so there's no ridiculous road distance/road maintenance.

And when you walk into the city this will play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYwzxaGD6tg

>>32145379
People going to the angel nation to die... Very fitting.

>>32143120
no.

>>32143120
Not a fan personally, Retro.

Hey boss, ok. Imagine this for the south. Risuners with top hats and monocles

have I been here long enough to vote, loves?

>>32146504
Are you Alice's anglo sister, Emma? It is nice to meet you. I am Sol, Phase Connect Rep.

>>32146584
yes I am, a pleasure. I am just checking in.

>>32146504
You joined on August 22nd iirc? Not this week, you can vote in next week's.

>>32146315
>>32146178
don't think your opinion acutally matter snce your not even on my continent

>>32146750
Ok!! I just wanted to make sure.

>>32146784
Funny how retroanon's falseflagger always uses the same picture.

>>32146367
im gonna guess falseflagger unless you have a good reason. Enjoy your (you)

>>32146875
this is me, wtf are you on. who are they?

>>32146909
No, this is me boss. I just imaged us being fancier because of our neighbors. Although there is a imposter out here, stay safe.

>Native culture being corrupted by Fr*nch degeneracy
ya hate to see it...

>>32147013
Ah. It does seem a bit strange not gonna lie. I imagine that over time we would develop some similarities but IDK its just that the whole monocle and top hat are seen as those over the top stereotypical kind of thing. Know what i mean?

>>32146953
Even though I am certain you are a falseflagger, I will still leave me reason for not liking Corpo-Liberal. In my opinion, that isn't a continent name and "Liberal" probably isn't the correct term. In popular Lexicon, we will always be known as "Indeia" but I don't think that is what the natives call it. (Maybe we (invaders like Phase, Aetheria, Kawaii, etc. do) but others likely don't. The reason probably for the name is vsj would have used to been major indie lands. Now, I don't have a better name but we can do better.

>>32146953
hate to break it to you falseflagger but you are not up to date, we actually cleaned up the emotes for divegrass already, gotta get with the times

>>32147141
I literally said that because of the meme OGsuner has of Risu wearing that.

>>32147190
kek hello retro, how're you doing?

>>32146367
I like the sound of that
The bigger the hat the better

>>32147166
>>32147190
Looks like I gave you my response (I knew this was not you, just wanted you to see it.) in time.

>>32147209
Kek. Also that was me I just forgot to put the trip on. How about this. Since not everyone would want to adopt to their customs we could say that those who do would over time begin to act like them. I think the native Americans did this early on in history. They were known as the five civilized tribes.

>>32147336
Sort of what I was thinking. Although i suspect that they would have picked up on some of the customs earlier because well, they are our literal neighbors.

>>32147336
I meant to say dress like them but fucking derp + phoneposting = pain.

Civilsuners fucking kek.

>>32147390
I remember mepper saying that the risuners that would be deemed too primitive would not be allowed entry. The ones who proved to behave themselves were to be allowed in. I forget if that was old lore or another mepper but it was specified at some point.

>>32147465
He did tell me that he wasn't sure when he made that call because our lore wasn't developed, also see pic.

>>32147532
>the average nasfaqgsuner

>>32147532
Also, I think he also implied the Oiseaux on the border would be somewhat more mixed in the culture, less refined. We also will have some of the med climate in the south.

>>32147532
Kek. Well anyway I think that there would be a few who just might. Let's say a minority for the time being. Everyone is different of course so it's hard to tell. Would there be a few meppers who might wanna wear a necklace out of bones or some animal hide? Maybe even a hat with feathers on it? I want mepper to see this desu

i have noticed something, when you type in lower case letters like this, your comments get ignored more. see retro and me. OGsuner, i can work on how guilds work in Risu.

>>32147723
Aww shit! Let's fucking go baby! I'm here all day

>>32147696
I asked him in our doc about this and he said the frontier folk would look like this more. Maumigny and company weren't from that area and the folks there aren't too friendly with the central government.

>>32147794
well i will need some time for this, but basically what a guild based society is is lusitania. it's just a trade or profession organzied into a "corpus" on a national level. for risu, these guilds are likely based regional right now. i would assume so at least. umm, can we get your economy overview so i can show you what i mean in action. hell just check my lore if you need to know. Mepper actually has a similar system so you can even say the South was influenced by how they did it and it spread.

Yes, I have changed my mind slightly on how things would have worked in the past because i think we would have these frontier folk that would be in contact with Risu, but that never was something the rest of the nation cared about. They would likely just be traders in the south (trappers?) and hunters. I am sure that there are mixed children from this, not sure how that would work honestly.

>>32147918
>economy overview
umm...see 40k orks. Our money has an expiration date and is edible. Its literally nuts so do with that what you will. Ill check out lusitania right now.

>>32148052
No I am not talking about currency, rather professions and jobs in Risu.

>>32148041
how the fuck would that even work? this is why spec bio confuses me because who would have the dominant genes? Well, probably Reine's honestly unironically.

>>32148152
I would imagine it would be some hairy ass dudes and women, i am not sure about the tail. Yes, Reine would be the dominant genes because well, it's Reine.

>>32148221
Ri2ner's spec bio just confused me on this to hell because the south has this sabertooth squirrels. I really like the idea of some kind of hybrid race, likely being just hairy men and women. But I am not sure how this translates to OGsuner's ideas.

>>32148098
Ah. Well you would have farmers and hunters as the dominant ones. There should also be miners and those who do construction. Prostitution is kind of the obvious one. Craftsmen would be a good one so they have people to make weapons and tools. Lumberjacks and those who use/distribute wood for everyone else to use. Most likely a lot of other jobs here and there that I think would be a bit much to list.

>>32148152
It's a chimera setup where one of the XX/XY chromosomes carry the squirrel genes, so IIRC about half of the children of the union would have the tail. I think the females would carry it more often than the males? I'd have to look it up again.

>>32148380
Oh this is obvious then. Simple by trade, like farming, hunting etc. Should be regional. I think WARsuner would get this much. It's not that complex really.

>>32148417
Depends for how long this is going on, likely a lot of them wouldn't have tails if this has been going on for generations because the male genes would eventually dominate. I am assuming that it would be more Oiseaux also moving to this area, as that is something Mepper mentioned.

>>32148597
Yeah, this is correct. A lot of the more free spirited Oiseaux would be in this area, also refugees from the lost lands. There would end up being some kind of mixed race formed in this area. I don't know how the Risuners or how we would view them.

>>32148597
I believe male genes being more dominant is a bit of a myth.

>>32148661
PP was also the one who kind of put this whole dynamic into my mind. He basically said this was going to happen no matter what because of how humans/humanoids work. There would likely be some kind of racism agaisnt these hairy frontier folk but most of the armies Chasseurs come from this region.
>>32148727
No, he means that because more "pure" Oiseaux would move there over time, that they would dominate that way. Does that make sense?

>>32148366
Well with ri2ner I agreed fully on the mole ones who do all the digging and mining, and the forest ones as the main sub species. The farming ones would make more sense around Gaputan as thats our main area with literal farms along other places. The WAR ones i kind of question myself because as cool as it sounds it doesn't seem practical. You cant be in war ALL the time. (can you?) so lets see what ri2ner says. I always thought it would just be forest dwelling risuners that would make up the bulk of the army.

>>32148783
>No, he means that because more "pure" Oiseaux would move there over time, that they would dominate that way. Does that make sense?
Well, pure risuners might also move there.

>>32148819
Yes, but there are also more push factors on our side because of the fucking ghazis, which effected us far more than Risuners. Not to mention the loggers and shit.

>>32148912
If mepper presence is good for the economy and creates jobs, this would attract a lot of Risuners to the region.
I'm not sure why you want the Risuners' distinctive physical characteristic to be bred out of them.

>>32148803
>>32148819
Guys, no one is saying the whole south is like this, rather that there would be a large minority of these half breeds. OGsuner, what this means is you would have Risuners that are basically hairy humans less that squirrels.

I think with our constant SEX that we would develop different variations of genes over time. So it might just be possible that risuner genes might be the strongest in possibly the world, especially after crossing with foreigners.

>>32148988
I am not sure why you are presuming this at all. I never said this. I merely stated that there would be a lot of Oiseaux coming to this region over time. This is speculation for both inside risu and my own nation.

>>32149011
>hairy humans less that squirrels.
Risuners are humans with squirrel traits. Unless you worded that part wrong. We are not literal squirrels although there are a few traits that we have from the animal.

>>32149095
Well, shit. Ri2ner has us all confused to hell. I think a better way would be some Risuners without tails.

>>32149071
I'm referring to this, since it seems you and organic have discussed and agreed on this beforehand. >>32148597

>>32149095
>>32148994
meant to reply to this. derp

>>32149145
Did I also not say that this is in both Risu and mep? My main point is the like 25 km radius around the border would see this odd group of people more than anything you are thinking and there are a lot of push factors for us at least.

Ok here is my idea. Risuners are humans. Probably muscular as fuck since we do lots of labor by hand and can climb trees. Yes we got tails. Yes we got fluffy ears. But thats pretty much it. As far as ri2ner goes i think he only put those pics there to provide an idea of where he got inspiration from and should not be taken literally.

Risuner - "normal" human breeding is actually something ive been thinking about a bit as well, although I always assumed the risuner gene would be the dominant one. Somehow would fit such creatures better.

Also, how exactly do risuners reproduce, do they give single birth or litters?
I am assuming "normal" human - risuner interbreeding is viable.

>>32149260
Yeah, that was really obvious reading Ri2ner's document, the first few pics were like picrel and then it said a non-sentient analog was used in-place.

let's not get into what you are thinking is something like eugenics or some shit. this was Mepper speculating that the area around the border would have this weird subculture from both sides that ends up leaning both ways. neither one of us truly understand how spec bio works. it's also possible the tails are small and are just hide. I don't understand how this got taken into "Mepper and Organic want to destroy Risuner genetics in an area." Come on...

>>32149341
I would disagree given that, well Reine. Maybe if it was Ollie, but its Reine kek.

>>32149465
Risu is her senpai, it's more dominant just from that probs kek.

>>32149465
I dont quite understand

>>32149540
It's referring to the personalities.

>>32149341
normal human breeding kek. They are just humans with a bit of squirrel little cute traits for extra flavor in terms of species. Also in terms of whoever has the strongest genes I dont know how gene dominance works so i guess ill try to look it up?

>>32149400
No, the tails are big and fluffy... I'm confused why there is such a need for Risuners without tails kek. Did you already make concept art and didn't put the tail in?

ABANDON WEIRD SCIENCE, HAVE SEX AND WRITE LORE. LET WARSUNER OR OG DECIDE WITH MEPPER. GENES OR NOT, HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS, OISEAUX AND ZETANS.

>>32149578
Ah.
I personally wouldnt base that on the chuubas, but on the meta ideas, like for example, with "sex" being one of /risu/'s central themes.

>>32149640
bro, we literally haven't done anything but discuss this a little bit. i don't fucking know how this shit works
.>>32149659
my brother is based.

>>32149676 (me)
Oh and if it wasnt clear, Im talking in general, not about mep specifically. Risuner interbreeding is a global issue.

>>32149640
It's just speculation kek, why are you so intent on saying "Aha, your wrong" as if their ideas aren't worth discussion.

>>32149731
>Risuner interbreeding is a global issue.
Why? Are you just afraid we will have the best genetic diversity ever?

I hate specbio when it comes to shit like this. Like what, you have a lot of sex in so suddenly your genes are dominate? That's fucking dumb and not how genetics work. Mepper was merely speculating about an interestign sub species or race and this suddenly got turn into "Risuner genes are dominate" or "Mep genes are dominate.". Who cares? Just have fun with it. If OG or Warsuner like Meppers idea, let them roll with it. I think it would be fucking cool to see Risuners that look a bit different because of this.

>>32149960
Warsuner has no say on this, as he isn't the rep no matter how much he wishs he was to turn Risu into Meps puppet.

>>32149850
Because risuners keep having sex with everyone
and how exactly that works and what it leads to needs to be figured out for worldbuilding reasons.

Right now its a mystery.

The same thing would have to be figured for other human subpecies/races.

Like, what happens if a risuner and a chumbud intermix. Or a risuner and a palkyrie.

>>32149960
Stop schizoing out, its a civil discussion.

Alright I have a solution, let's not worry about genetics and shit. I think this mixed race idea is cool as shit and gives us ties to our neighbors on a cultural level. I don't give a fuck what they look like, its more about the culture to me.

>>32149960
Bro, this conversation has been fine except for the misunderstanding earleir.
>>32150116
Based, not like I am a artfag to care.

>>32150116
Based. I had to read back and mepper was talking about culure and personality as well. I think there would be a strange zone of mixed risuner/mepper people who would probably learn frome ach other. Risuners would want to learn the mannerisms of the meppers while mep people would probably be interested in risuner traditions and customs. Actually. What would meppers see in risuners? What would they want to learn about/be interested in?

Question about Risuner beds: Would they be engineered for sex?

If a Risuner is raised in Moriji all their life do their tail and ears go bald

>>32150303
asking the right questions friend

While this conversation was interesting, i am more interested in the hunter culture. I am sure that you would have Risuners and Oiseaux from this area where they both are fucking cranked with rifles.
>>32150263
Hunting without a doubt, (i don't know much about your culture aside from SEXXX kek) Our culture is similar on families values but women's purity is valued.

>>32150303
OF COURSE! If you constantly have sex then it would only be natural that we design the beds specifically to be used for said purpose.

>>32150311
This. This is the kind of questions I want to figure out.

Also, chumbud X risuner, can shrimps and squirrels fall in love and produce viable offspring?

>>32150330
Ah hunting. Well we have a lot of fucking dangerous animals here so you could presume that we climb trees and kill shit from afar. Our huntsmen would be skilled in archery (naturally) and we would have wooden target boards for training. Heck it could even be a game for the kids and if they keep up the interest then BOOM its a career in the making.

>>32150330
That's what I was thinking. I was imagining Commodus peresonally sniping some towelhead commander from like 500 meters or some shit ridiculous and some Oiseaux does it from 501 meters just to one up him. Like they have a fucking shot measuring contest. That's cool shit. We would be cranked because we would be familiar with rifles unlike other Risuners and used to it.

>>32150357
You would love bed springs then. Maybe before then you have matresses stuffed with cotton or feathers on wooden board beds. Hammocks and rope beds just don't have the support I think.

>>32150330
I forgot to answer the gun part. While risuners originally would not have guns of their own they could adapt to use guns if you gave them some.

So regarding the mixed species, first of all we need to establish what specific genes are dominant and which are recessive for each of the nations.
Not to mention that since Risuners are squirrel people and meppers aren't, reproduction might not even be that likely. Just the presence of a full functioning tail might imply that Risuners specifically split off of the main homo line waaaay back when we still had them.
In essence, it would basically be like fucking a macaque or something irl and expecting a baby.
AND if they truly have squirrel DNA in them that resulted in these traits you go even further back, possibly 100m years of evolution or more. At this point risuner sperm would be sterile to any other homo species on the planet.

>>32150511
>>32150478
Ok, Warsuner, that is fucking kino. Let's plan that shit out. I think that Rifles would be familiar with at least some of the southern tribes. I don't think it's unreasonable that some Risuners wouldn't want to abandon their bows but I'd imagine that the closer ones would have generations of knowledge in guns.
>>32150593
See this, I actually think because some degree would already be in the south, you would have guns there for hunting already.

>>32150670
alright but how to make it work so i can have cute mixed risuner babies

>>32150766
Chuubanite.

>>32150766
Yeah IKR even if i have to do pic related

>>32150593
Composite bows are a thing. They're fantastic for big game hunting. There's also more wood than iron in /risu/. So bows can still be used in combat.

OG, did you know you have some fine iron and coal deposits near the border? Sounds like stonks to me for you.

>>32150872
HELL YES. HERE WE GO BOYS!!!!

>>32150872
Sounds fucking good to me. Mole risuners would be digging up peat and lignite like crazy but hell yeah. Iron is a big one for sure since our main source of iron is from laterite. Brb for about an hour or so i gotta take care of some shit. Have fun gentlemen.

>Oiseaux hunting in Risu.

>>32150311
Yes, Cahya might be on his way there, he's been here for a while...

>>32151026
Shit, this is the picture.
>>32151017
We will teach you how to mine this shit.

>>32150872
Might need to import some mining tools to get started.

>>32151207
>I offer to help them
Already ahead of you.

>>32151207
Why are you still posting? You are banned for a month.

>>32151286
Stop trying to turn Risu into your puppet.

Leave my nigger, Nasarep alone.

I guess i will reveal something interesting to this thread, the next Oiseau Queen will be Histrionic

>>32151385
What exactly does one have to do in order to get banned?

>>32151616
Respond to bait like you.

>>32151558
What the fuck does Histrionic mean? She like history or something?

>>32150766
Chuubanite would be one answer, but even then you want it to be something that doesn't cause hereditary gene manipulation, because your DNA would still start to vastly change over just a couple of generations to accommodate the tail and ears, as well as possibly other features, and you are back to square 1.
If we go with it I would suggest that risuner traits are completely artificial and caused by their chuubanite. This would mean a few things, and we can kinda handwave some others.
1. Each risuner would be born a normal human, no tail, no ears, just a homo sapiens.
2. They would gain those traits in the first few years of their life due to exposure to the chuubanite
3. We still retain some genes for a tail, so that would be very much in the scope of what can happen.
4. The problem happens when you consider the next generation. At this point your DNA would already be changed, so you would once again be practically sterile for other species. We can get by that by recording some extra info in your genes that, at the time of birth, store your DNA in a cache, and leave it alone when the chuubanite effects start kicking in. This way you keep the squirrel traits and still can breed with other species normally. This would probably just amount to a small extra sack on your sack that would store that genetic information.
5. If we go with that, the resulting baby from breeding with any other homo species will always be a normal human, and would have to gain the squirrel traits by exposure to your chuubanite.

Honestly this is all very, very fucked and I hate it, but it's a way to achieve both effects that you want.

>>32151385
Mining is also pretty dangerous. Especially coal mining. My grandad got black lung from coal mining in the 30s.

>>32151747
This is a solved problem, Cunt. Risuners are genetic chimeras, with two sets of DNA, one for the human part and one for the squirrel parts. The presence or absence of the squirrel parts depends on which chromosomes the father and mother pass down, this was discussed a couple months back.

>>32151663
Oh, kill yourself. I asked a single question.

>>32151898
Rude.

>>32151866
Holy fuck! Someone picked up my chimera idea.

>>32151996
Of course nasarep, you get pretty good ideas sometimes.

>>32151866
Eh, either way is fine by me in the end, I was just giving out possible ideas as the spec bio autist currently here.

>No one knew what Histrionic means or cared
Pain peko.

>>32152254
It means she's menhera.

Anyway are there other demi-human races in Vitubia that use chimera DNA? I know there's chumbuddies but they're more like shrimp mermaids with their own reproductive systems.

>>32153471
I can't think of some in the active threads, but the people of /fbk/ would probably be among them.