/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32127052
What a dumb bitch. This is what happens when you grow up without a mother.

>The decision noted that the avatars' words and actions reflect the women's own personality and experiences, and that the woman uses the avatar to express herself. The court acknowledged that "even if the insults were superficially directed at the avatar, they were found to have been directed at those using the avatar, and it is the women whose feelings of honor were violated."

>>32127052
I would demand that she be forced to use her real name in the suit, or submit a motion to dismiss.

She's dumb but I bet if I made her a mother that would fix the problem.

>>32127052
Libel defamation cases are much easier to prove in japan than in america. All she has to do is prove it was the individuals she takes to court that made the comments in question. The japanese court will then ask the individuals who made the posts to prove that what they sed is true. If the individuals cant they lose regardless of malice. Because japanese courts don't consider it when making rulings marine wont even have to prove she took a financial hit of any kind like you would have to do in america.

>>32127052
>Suing anon
She’s growing up with the nerd side of internet I thought she she knew better.

It's ok when Hololive does it. Meanwhile all the fatherless anons here were whining about the ojisan Mick Feline sued.

>>32127052
>claiming that her reputation had been damaged by the slanderous comments made about her avatar
Was it though? I have not seen anyone, not even the marine schizo say something like that

>>32128368
I don't recall whining i recall posting that people who anti 24/7 get what's coming to them when that happened anon.

>>32127052
How do you know its Marine? Couldn't the description be applied to many others?

When did Marine sue anyone? I thought Roa was the one who had brought her case to court.

>>32128566
if you google "母親がいないせいで精神が未熟なんだろ" a Marine thread on 5ch comes up

>>32128566
I was thinking this might be green mike because didn't green mike win her 1st case and say she would be going after more people.

>>32127052
I slept with her a few weeks ago, and she gave me the clap. Worth it, though.

>>32128196
>He doesn't know

>>32128661
I'm trying to recall if she ever mentioned her mom. I only remember her talking about her brother.

>>32127052
>「仕方ねぇよバカ女なんだから」
>「母親がいないせいで精神が未熟なんだろ」
That's it? Something like this hurt her feefee so bad to the point that she's taking it to court? Also
>claiming that her reputation had been damaged by the slanderous comments made about her avatar
No, sure it might damaged the reputaion of the avatar but it can't damaged HER reputation since she's hiding behind the avatar and people don't know who she is.

>>32127402
Avatar and actor separator fags BTFO

>>32128805
Brother? I've only heard her talk about her dad and her hikki older sister.

>>32127052
>>32127402
Doesn't this prove that Marine really is a whore?

>>32128956
>That's it? Something like this hurt her feefee so bad to the point that she's taking it to court?
That's not why you sue people. You sue people to get pain and make them regret their mistakes. You don't have to feel hurt at all to recognize getting some cash while fucking retarded antis over is based

>No, sure it might damaged the reputaion of the avatar but it can't damaged HER reputation since she's hiding behind the avatar
The judge basically ruled you're a retard if you truly believe this

>>32128165
Pretty sure you can lose even if it is true. They just have to prove it was of public interest which the lives of vtubers are not.

>>32128956
There's a fresh new (but hard to interpret) law in Japan regarding defamation over public figures, this might have been the kickstart.
It's known Miguel has started to do the same shit over some 50 y/o men that were harassing her under rather similar conditions.

>>32128165
>The japanese court will then ask the individuals who made the posts to prove that what they sed is true. If the individuals cant they lose regardless of malice.
this literally doesnt matter
you can sue for libel in japan, and win, even if what they say is true

Getting owned by the courts for writing bad posts is pretty sweet. If Marineschizo was Japanese he would be fucked.

Can a Japanese court even force 5ch to do anything? The site is owned by a company in the Phillipines and hosted in the US.

>>32127052
That's just some mental illness coming from Marine. Why is she such a stuck-up whore?

>>32129193
>That's not why you sue people. You sue people to get pain and make them regret their mistakes. You don't have to feel hurt at all to recognize getting some cash while fucking retarded antis over is based
AAAAARRRGGGHH THOSE DAMN INTERNET TROLLS, I'M GONNA MAKE THEM PAY. Yeah, that's so petty.
>The judge basically ruled you're a retard if you truly believe this
Well okay I guess Marine is a pirate irl now I guess, since the avatar is the same as the person behind it after all.

is there any proof that this is about marine, the story doesnt say anything about that

Isn't Marine still one of the few undoxxed holo members? Surprised she would care.

>>32129534
It was posted in a 5ch thread that is set to expose IPs, so they didn't need anything from 5ch

>>32128165
wtf you can abuse this system to get rich. first make a scene out of suing people, make this into youtube content or something. naturally people will hate you and they talk shit about you online but that's what you want because then you have more people to sue for more money, for the lawyer fee just make them pay for it just like what rushia did, literally infinite money.

>>32129738
>no quote, no nothing
Should've said that he replied to the wrong thread and he's not talking about her.

>>32128599
There’s no thread fucking scumbag liar.

>>32129738
Oh. I'm surprised that's a thing. RIP that guy, I guess.

>>32129929
google better
https://ikioi5ch.net/cache/view/streaming/1621247910

>>32128805
She talked about his father and older sister a few times. I seem to remember once mentioning her mother when she was with Aqua offline. Seeing Aqua's actions as a little girl in a store, she remembered what she was like with her mother. There is speculations, but it's best not to bring it up, it might be painful for her.

How is it even possible that Japan is more sue happy than America?

>>32130067
Because it's an american colony of autistic bug people?

>>32130067
Most countries are, when it comes to libel/defamation.

>>32128956
The Roa case gave legal precedent that defamation towards an avatar or other representation (like a vtuber) counts towards the actual person behind it. There's more legalese involved what falls under these category, but Mikecat has successfully used this to nail one of her antis, a man in his 50s.

>>32130067
i mean just look how easy it is to win a defamation lawsuit in japan, you can sue people for ton of money too btw. who wouldn't do it?

>>32130140
> a man in his 50's
me 30 years later

>an anonymous poster being sued for insulting someone who he has never seen and doesnt even know the name of

>>32128956
>>32128956
>No, sure it might damaged the reputaion of the avatar but it can't damaged HER reputation since she's hiding behind the avatar
One could argue that the reputation of the avatar is the reputation of the one behind the avatar, given that that is her way to make money is perfectly reasonable to bind both reputations together, now, proving that there was damage to begin with and quantify it, is another matter.

>>32129738
Maybe he used a proxy.
That said why would they include such a feature?

>>32127052
NGL she's mentally immature for suing a guy over a comment she saw on an imageboard. Now everyone knows what bothers her, so her antis win and she may set a precident for fucking up the internet (at least in Japan) by law suits against anons over hurt feelings, this would just encourage less privacy online which is ironic given the effort vtubers go to to maskt their identity. Privacy for me but not for thee.

>>32130351
do you think is it possible for anon sue another anon in 4chan?

>>32130477
On 5ch the thread creator can choose to expose IPs to counteract the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory and make people behave more civilly. This usually results in an "IP thread" where people act normally and a "non-IP thread" where antis congregate, but some retards cross over

Wtf don't tell me this is the reason she streams so much less.
How accurate is this source anyway?

>>32129618
lmao eat shit troll

>>32130477
>mentally immature
Oioioioi, be careful there, she's gonna sue your ass bro
>>32130140
Having a way to fight against anti is not a bad thing I guess, but it seems awfully abusable, like, you can't say anything bad to them at all.

>>32130567
I remember you called me a retard the other day. Prepare your anus.

>>32130477
that feature is there exactly for this purpose.
>>32129848
you cant, you have to have a reputation to damage

marine was my favorite holo but this really makes me dislike her
being so petty and suing someone over a random post on the internet

Finally a soon to be EU primetime stream.

>>32130913
Same, I was already kind of over supporting her as my oshi because I felt she made it and didn't need me anymore but now I don't even like her.
In an alternate timeline she'd be suing the Pekora who never joined Hololive and continued to be a 5ch dramafag...

>>32130913
Yeah it sucks. I'm not a Marine fan but Pekora buying an exotic pet had that effect on me too. Hope you find a new favourite soon.

>>32130796
It depends, in Japan you can sue someone for defamation/libel (they are considered the same under Japanese law) regardless of if the statements were true or false but there is no punishment if it can be proven that it is a matter of public interest and done solely to benefit the public. For example, you can safely out someone as a pedophile or molester in public since it would be a public matter (danger to others) and you have reasonable suspicious leading to it.

If you google "101.142.131.208" and read the sued guys' posts, he was a really persistent numberfag retard and even mocked the idea of getting sued.

Marineschizo, you have a good lawyer?

>>32127052
>Ahoy I'm always wet and horny
>I'm always wet
>and horny
>I'm suing you because my reputation as a pure woman of Catholic values and belief is being slandered and shat upon on.

>But Ahoy remember to give me your money because I'm horny.

You know they will just take a look at her work and throw the case out and probably laugh her out of court.

>>32130796
>Having a way to fight against anti is not a bad thing I guess
Yes, it is. These whores and their white knights need to grow some thick skin. Fragile bitches should mind what they read. Japanese libel laws are absurd. There is nothing good about this.

Maybe it's all a ploy to make her face him face-to-face in court then confess his love in person.

>>32131438
>even mocked the idea of getting sued
Based of her to sue him then. Talk shit, get hit.

>>32131615
They were talking shit about her mom retard. That’s pretty low for a faggot anti.

>>32131963
>That’s pretty low for a faggot anti

Honestly that just sounds par for the course for a group of people who literally just make shit up all the time.

>>32130310
Try 20 years, amateur.

>>32131438
lol

>>32127402
>women
>honor

>>32127052
I thought this was Mikhail. I don't think it's Marine, she's not as menhera and Mike is known for having already sued a fuckton of people.

>>32132518
see
>>32128599
Unless it's some schizo saying the exact same thing about multiple people, which might very well be possible.

>>32129324
Talking shit online is not the same as harassment faggot.

>>32127052
Absolutely based.

>>32127052
You know, since Nijisanji and Hololive actually allow their vtubers to sue people for talking about them instead of punching their teeth in for even bringing it up, then people probably shouldn't. At all. It's safer to pretend they don't exist. Might as well unperson all the corpos until they waive their legal right to sue for libel and defamation. Oh well.

>>32130389
But isn't the avatar and character owned by Cover? So it should be Cover suing over damage to their property?

>>32131438
Kek.
Talk shit, get sued I guess.

>>32130913
Stfu nijinigger

>>32133242
Shhhhh, anon that's the backup plan.

>>32130351
>who he has never seen and doesnt even know the name of
How are they insulting her if they don't know who she is?

>>32131438
>>32132287
oof

How do we get her to go after marineschizo next?

>>32132518
Miquel's mother is around. That's not an insult anyone would use towards her.

>>32134004
By introducing the draconian defamation laws into whatever country they live in.

>>32131438
Based, numberfags should be gassed

>>32133362
you're lucky i'm not as petty as marine or you would be getting sued

>>32131438
>even mocked the idea of getting sued.
top kek, based senchou

>>32130067
Because American courts and legislatures have specifically taken a very dim view of defamation/libel suits and have erected a very high bar to prove such a case. The overall legal philosophy is that easy libel suits have a chilling effect on speech which is an overall bad for society.

The bar in the US when it comes to defaming public officials (not just politicians but anyone with sufficient public presence) is not just whether or not what you've said is true. It's actually more along the lines of, "did you believe this is true when you said it" *and* "if you knew it was not true, was your lie made with 'actual malice'"

Also in many states, knowingly filing a groundless defamation suit runs afoul of anti-SLAPP statutes and can end up with you paying damages to the person you're suing.

tl;dr proving libel/defamation in the US is actually extremely hard and also very risky compared to in most other countries. This is a big reason why Vic Mignogna ended up losing his case.

>>32129283
No. You can still lose even if it's false. That's the murrican way.
Anyways, NYT v. Sullivan is a cancer upon America

This guy should countersue Senchou that she is a public figure (she is obviously, she is a celebrity in the internet). Hence, she must prove its true
At that point, Senchou HAS to show her real life to the fan. At that point she would back off and the anon wins

>>32135031
>Anyways, NYT v. Sullivan is a cancer upon America
>NOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LIBRULS RATIO'D ME ON TWITTER YOU HAVE TO LET ME SUE THEM INTO THE GROUND MR JUDGE MAN
foh

>>32135304
Must prove what's true? That she has been hurt by these comments? The proof is in the lawsuit existing.

something's wrong with Japan laws

>>32135031
Politicians suing people is a good thing?

>>32135029
He deserved it for being a dubshitter. His caolleagues are worse though. They're dubniggers who act like hot shit speaking for the "anime community".

>>32135835
he sued a corporation, not "people"

>>32135304
The laws don't work that way in Japan, Marine must be a known public figure AND the allegations have to be for the benefit of the public. Also due to the precedent from Roa's case, she doesn't have to give her real name or be physically present, just be properly legally represented.

>>32127052
>Tfw jap antis move from there to here to shit post in peace.

Woman moment

>>32136218
does the guy she's suing have to give his real name or be physically present

>>32136218
I checked, and yep, you are correct.
As a lawyer in America, I wouldn't want to be a lawyer in Japan. That libel law seems fucked

>>32127052
>this damn internet TROLL is ruining my reputation!! I’m gonna destroy his life by suing him into poverty!!!

I know something that’s gonna destroy her reputation even more

>>32136082
Corporations are legally people.

>>32136496
The Japanese public has an increasingly negative view of internet trolls since that one suicide case and the laws and punishments against them are getting harsher. The increase was just enacted into law a few months ago that increased the fine from less than 10k to up to 300k yen, and from 30 days detention to up to one year.

>>32136496
This won't ruin her life & honestly it's kinda based. Not talking shit is easy, but he couldn't manage that. But now it's gonna be even easier to not talk shit when he won't be able to afford a device to shitpost on.

>>32127052
So we're all agreeing to be against Marine now, right?

>>32136568
They’re not ‘people’, per-say. Rather, they’re recognised as a single legal entity. The purpose being to smooth out any legal bumps that comes with managing a large business that employs dozens or hundreds or thousands of people. If they weren’t considered a single entity, you couldn’t sue say GM for selling you faulty car. You’d have to sue every single executive and member of the board directly and individually. And if you happen to sue someone who wasn’t directly responsible for the faults (because how the fuck would you be able to find out which individual executive was responsible), then you lose your case and you’re SOL.

>>32136782
>>32136784
The public at large aren’t VT geeks. The majority of her (and any other tuber’s) fanbase are going to be terminally-online internet nerds who necessarily have a rather dim view on society at large and public opinion.

As people say, when fans see that the one being sued was mocking and taunting to be sued, this makes her look actually based.
Yesterday was you fuck around time, and today is you find out time.
The forum they were using, was not anonymous. Neither is 4chan but that's another story.

>>32136892
Corporations are people. That's the legal interpretation of hundreds of precedents. In some places, they only consider it as a separate entity. But not in America. In America, they are people. They have all the rights as stated in the constitution.

She sue this guy to oblivion?

>>32136986
And how does this end with the public hating her for suing a troll?

>>32136993
Pretty sure she can't sue a Zhang. Or anyone outside Japan for that matter.

>>32136892
>>32136994
This is why I'm not a lawyer.

>>32136870
>Marine schizo trying to use this small yab to justify Marine hate post
I made a lot of post to make fun of her but will not become an anti

So you basically can't criticize public figures in Japan publicly?
That's censorship basically. How is that different from communism?
Also that mother comment must have stung Marine real deep to go out of her way to sue the anti.
With that being said I wish she could sue marineschizo. Would be epic.

>>32137276
How is calling her a retard for having a dead mother "criticism"?

>You can sue someone for hurting your feelings in Japan
country of cucks lmao

>>32137276
You're next anon, see you in japan prison. They said japan jail is clean.

>>32136993
She basically just pulled out her pirate pistol and shot him.

It's not marine because they wouldve said "with over 2 million subscribers" :^)

Wow... If that is marine then she's a massive fucking faggot. I get going after people who are generally harassing you but going after some twat on a message board posting mean stuff about you is fucking retarded and she should know better

>>32137235
Why not become anti? She's ruining vtubers reputation.

>>32137276
>That's censorship basically. How is that different from communism?
Because communism is a specific political ideology and not just every time censorship happens? Really, every country in the world censors speech. The USA is a paradise for speaking freely even compared to most Western nations.

>>32137276
>That's censorship basically. How is that different from communism?
That's retarded basically. How is that different from being a neanderthal?

>>32136986
The perpetually online denizens of Japanese boards are still, in the end, Japanese. Having anything on your record means you're stuck doing odd jobs where you get paid under the table, you can't even work the counter at a Lawson, so most of these trolls don't really go that far and are well aware of the consequences. People who actually get sued are generally made fun of.

>>32137276
Communism=/=censorship.
They just use censorship like most political ideologies or cultures which venerate high centralized social order you fucking 14 year old /pol/tard.

>>32136994
You're ignorant and have no actual understanding of what you're saying and are probably just regurgitating what some half-wit youtuber with no JD said.

>>32136892
What this anon said is more accurate but without entity law you would probably be suing the shareholders and not the employees of the company except those who directly caused the injury. Additionally, they are wrong because if you are bringing action against multiple defendants, you don't lose your case just because one of them didn't do it. That individual defendant will likely file a motion to dismiss and, if granted, the case will continue on but without that party.

>>32137482
Because normal human being don't become schizo for a vtuber

>>32136994
They aren’t. The ruling stated that they are to be treated as ‘people’ during legal proceedings like during lawsuits, only for the ease of court documents as I stated earlier. You’re confusing the courts saying “the people who work for a corporation still have their constitutional rights” with that court ruling about how corporations are to be treated as a single legal entity.

>>32137705
>People who actually get sued are generally made fun of.
It's kind of crazy to see even other trolls that would otherwise agree with the one being sued laughing at them.

I refuse to believe this is real.

>>32137749
>You're ignorant and have no actual understanding of what you're saying and are probably just regurgitating what some half-wit youtuber with no JD said.
Sure.
Better read up, buddy.
t. lawyer

>>32137824
>The ruling stated that they are to be treated as ‘people’ during legal proceedings like during lawsuits, only for the ease of court documents as I stated earlier.
No.
Corporations are considered as people, beyond legal proceedings. Over a span of hundreds of years they have been given rights only considered for natural persons. In fact, this stupid interpretation is also a cancer upon America

>>32137845
Basically because they're idiots that went far enough to get sued AND also careless enough to actually get caught.

>>32127052
This can't be real

>>32137100
Because it shows that she is thin-skinned and will use her status to go after people she doesn’t like. No sense of humour

>>32138002
Where's the humor in any of the posts you see with the IP?

>>32137950
>went far enough to get sued
he basically just called her dumb
i'm sure you've said much worse things about people here

>>32131438
Numberbros...

>>32137936
>they have been given rights only considered for natural persons
Name one. The case explictly calls them ‘artificial persons, distinct from natural persons’.

>>32127402
so does sex in the metaverse count as real sex?

Imagine if the girls could just sue you whenever you call them a whore here
This board wouldn't survive long

>>32137857
>>32137986
There is all the proof needed in this thread the only way is the news about a vtuber suing anti being fake

>>32138123
>The case explictly calls them ‘artificial persons, distinct from natural persons’
Not in America. A simple checking of the more popular cases proves you otherwise. Why should I be the dude to spoonfeed you?
Nobody is arguing that corporations are living human beings. The argument is that: corporations are people. Which, they are.
Use your damn logic, dumbass. Persons are people. People are given constitutional rights. Corporations were given the same rights. Ergo, corporations are people.

>>32138071
I can’t read Japanese, but going off what others have said it just sounded like typical troll
> I saw Marine at a grocery store in Tokyo yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Kit Kats in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Madam, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, she kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
—tier shitposting

>>32138376
>tier shitposting
It's nothing like that though.

>>32137936
NTA. Anon you are fucking retarded. And the dangerous kind of retarded where you're so irredeemably incompetent that you're confident and will harm others by misleading them.

>>32138352
Because you’re the one making the extraordinary claim, dipshit.

>>32138402
So then what’re they saying

>>32138073
This guy isn't a oneoff, he's a persistent anti

>>32127052
>>32127402
B A S E D
It was based when Rushia did it.
It is somehow even more based now that senchou is doing.

Godspeed captain.

>>32138481
It was already posted
>How is calling her a retard for having a dead mother "criticism"?

>>32138250
That's our the endgame. We can finally leave.

>>32138002
I think she's upset because the anti said that she doesn't have mother so she's immature and I think the rrats of her not having mother is probably true so her reaction is understandable
Don't forget that Marine takes baba jokes everyday and even by 30+ holos despite her not even being 30

>>32138419
Okay.

>>32138433
That is not an extraordinary claim, dipshit. You're the only one doing that.
Corporations are people; considered legally as no different from natural people, especially in America. That's literally why in America for example, corporations can spend UNLIMITED MONEY in election ads, meanwhile in sane, civilized parts of the world (aka everywhere that ISN'T in America), there are legal limits

>>32137614
>>32137721
commie seethe

>>32127149
>even if it was directed at the avatar, it could not be said to be directed at women.
Then who are you saying it to you fucking idiot?

>>32138540
>you should be sued for edgy shitposts
I say worse shit about people on here daily. Do you know how many times I’ve told anons to kill themselves just in the last hour? Marine is making herself look like the worst kind of boomer for getting upset over that.

>>32138616
>despite her not even being 30
source?

>>32138671
>it’s not an extraordinary claim because I said so!!!
Things are not true just because you declare them to be so, anon. Subjectivity is a meme to trick retards.

>>32138888
God, you're dumb.
Look, I'm a lawyer, but this shit is readily available in the internet. I would surmise that LITERALLY searching "corporations are people america" on google would show how retarded you are.
Whatever.
I'll stop replying to your posts now.

Marine is making an example of it because he's using her dead mother to insult her, I don't think she would give a shit about what he said if the mother part didn't exist.

Good on her.

Imagine ruining a person's life over a mean comment on the internet.
Fuck Marine. Petty slut.

>>32138763
I'm an American libertarian. You're just a retarded election tourist.

Lmao what a bitch

>>32138821
So the only reason you're against this is because you're afraid of being hit for talking shit?

>>32138853
She was in highschool in 2009 and played Pokemon ruby and sapphire a 2002 game in elementary school
Also she said her age in her PL

Based. Chat shit get banged.

>>32127052
Based. You are not anonymous, you will be traced and sent to prison.

>>32138970
>my dad works at nintendo
If it’s so easy to prove, you should be able to find me a source lickety-split

>>32127052
>suing a shitposter
sounds like something a stupid woman, who is mentally immature because she doesn't have a mother, would do.

>>32127052
>>32127402
I don't remember this episode of better call saul

>>32139317
>first they came for the antis, but I said nothing because I am not an anti...

>>32139641
Unfathomably based. Fuck Marine and fuck leftoid holobrony redditards cheering for this shit.

>you can sue people over muh family honor in japan
wow
should’ve been 4 nukes
unit 731 be damned

>>32138821
Don't respond to me if you're not going to keep defending the point that you need a "sense of humor" to read your garbage posts.

>>32139174
stop projecting fag

>>32139765
Enjoy the defamation lawsuit

>>32139785
>Soulless Mutt has no concept of honour and would sell out their family if it means getting a few more jewcoins
Checks out

>>32139875
Enjoy watching your wife being banged by a nigger.

>>32140003
That's also defamation, she was banged by a beautiful nordic man.

>>32140114
Yeah by me.

>>32139789
>he said mean things about me on a japanese underwater basket-weaving forum, SUE HIM
Woman moment

>>32138544
I want my oshi to crush me with the full force of the law.

>>32140161
Nordicuck

>>32140161
thank you for satisfying her

>>32139885
>yuropoor sees nothing wrong with suing his neighbour into poverty because he looked at him funny
It wasn’t that long ago that yurokeks memed on mutts for how litigious the US is

>>32140177
Where's the comedy in your shitty post?

>>32140161
Also me.

>>32140322
Where’s the purpose in your life?

>>32140545
Not your business, ape.

>>32127052
Isn't this about Roa? How did Marine come into the picture?

>>32140593
Read the thread.

>>32139765
>leftoid holobrony
Pretty sure Hololive is the corpo with the least amount of leftards in its fanbase, at least among the relevant ones. Not sure what kind of cope is that.

>>32138515
Rumors about Rushia literally affected her career
Marine's suing because her feelings were hurt

>>32140304
I'm not a yuropoor. It's not just Europeans who hate mutts. Anyone who isn't a mutt hates them.

>>32130913
> :31:29
>>32131203
> :35:53
>>32131204
> :35:53
Please take your meds Marineschizo

>>32140593
Please read the thread>>32129738

>>32139142
Who's that girl on the left? I don't recall seeing her streaming.

>>32140669
Holos are the most leftoid vtubers and so are their tranny fans.
Just look at marine and her fanbase. I wouldn't blame you for wanting to disassociate from Marine and her fans at this point though.

>>32127052
>It's ok when a holo does it
But it a niji liver were to do it everyone would be on the 5chan anons side telling how petty the liver is.

>>32140647
>>32140772
are you retards or pretending?
there's nothing about Marine in those posts.

>>32140669
I'm not trying to figure out the percentage of leftoids among holofans. I'm just pointing out that a person needs to be
1. A leftoid
2. A holobrony
3. A redditard
to even entertain the idea that suing someone over a mean comment is based.

>>32140826
you lost mate?
>>>/v/

>>32140743
>35
Are you an Aussie in that retarded half hour offset time zone

>>32140884
The posts are literally in the Marine thread and are directed at Marine, idiot.

>>32129154
Kinda bitchy, I'm disbelieved about her

>>32140717
>casually admitting america lives absolutely rent-free in the entire world’s head
Love to see it

Friendship with Marine is over, I can't support someone so cringe.

>>32139673
get fucked

>>32141102
All you did was prove that yuropoors live rent free in your head.

>>32141147
>turdie makes unsolicited comment about america
>”actually it is you who is obsessed”
See you tomorrow when you’re still seething about americans

>>32140826
Stop projecting, newfag.

>>32141131
I don’t live in Japan, I can call Marine a petty whore all day err’ day and she can cope and seethe about it

>>32141305
Your first thought was that the "turdie" was a yuropoor, proving that yuros live rent free in your head.
Cope and seethe.

>>32141366
nah the JSDF will be dispatched to carry out hits on those who talk shit outside the country, you're next buckaroo

>>32141422
Because yurotrash and turdies are identical. Belgian, Congolese, Philippino; I see no difference. If you’re not american, you are all the same

>>32129618
Talk shit, get hit.

some people are so full of hate

>>32141691
I find the only people who say this are the people confident that they can talk shit and not get hit

Marine should be careful. Her fans are antis of the other girls.

>>32129618
>the avatar is the same as the person behind it after all.
Literally nowhere has that been stated.

>>32141773
In 5ch or 4chan ?

>>32128599
Retard.

>>32141994
Neither, that's Marineschizo who is always claiming her fans hate everyone and everyone hates her.

>>32141750
Or, you know, just don't talk shit? Or at least don't talk shit in a public place?

>>32141994
Both actually. Polkafags are also bad on both.

>>32138821
>I say worse shit about people on here daily
good thing 4chan doesn't track your IP then

>>32140951
> Posts from May 2021
was she seething about this for an entire year?

>>32141994
EOP sphere
some of the Ayame anti comments on her latest VOD are Marine chatters

>>32141994
On twitter but actually it's mostly Noel fans.

The dude she is suing also complained about Marine interacting with overseas fans, thanking us for sub milestones and posting on reddit etc.
Glad he's getting sued.

Noel, Matsuri, Ayame, Pekora and Haachama haven't sued their antis despite their antis being way worse.
Marine is a cowardly bitch who can't take mild criticism.
Antis sent Pekora pictures of dead rabbits and threatened her.

honestly 4chan should show IPs by default too so we could tell who's a bitch hiding behind a VPN

>>32142812
kys marineschizo
you will get sued sooner or later too

>>32142743
>he hates Marine for being a redditor
This guy is right. Fuck Marine.

>>32141682
>compares a first world country with more freedoms and better living conditions than burgers to fucking Africa and sea

>>32138970
Does the idiot responding to you not know what Citizens United is in the USA?

>>32139619
>Spoonfeed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

>>32127052
How can Houshou have haters? She's the perfect combination between perverted and seiso

>>32129738
someone knows the context of this post? why was he calling her immature in the first place?

>>32137235
That's the thing anon, if she can sue for reputation damage or whatever, it doesn't matter if it was a joke or not. You'll still open your anus to wait for the fist

>>32143035
I think the court will decide who is right, fag.

>>32143094
anon I like marine but in what world is she a balance of seiso & anything

>>32143253
The defence will just go to reddit and get a translator to translate it for the judge and then the case will be dismissed when the judge sees what reddit is.

>>32143375
It's true

>>32143468
keep malding schizo
you are next

>>32127402
Japanese slander laws are no joke. Attacking someone's honor can cost you a lot of money over there.

>>32141991
It was ruled recently in a japanese court that insults against the chuuba character could be thought as slandering against the person behind the avatar.

>>32141366
sure have fun in your mudhut

>>32143642
And they pretty much have the reason to make it a no joke when even high schoolers are throwing their bodies left and right because of the bullying. Too bad the mental healthcare there is still a fucking joke though.

>>32143815
And how does that in your retarded pea brain make the person behind the avatar a pirate?

>>32143915
Mental Healthcare is a joke.

>>32143170
Marine was on break for health reasons at the time. He was replying to a poster who was complaining that she was retweeting things but not tweeting about her own status.

>>32144056
Literally 90% of these situations with nips an heroing would go away if their dads actually spent a little time with their family and parents would show some affection towards each other and their children. East Asian and Nordic cultures are so damn cold and distant to their family and relatives.

>>32143037
Name one single european country with a higher living standard and freedoms than america
The only ones with higher standards of living are the micronations populated entirely by foreign investment bankers like Monaco and Lichtenstein, and NONE of them have greater freedoms.

>>32144286
Marine is very close with her dad she just don't have mother though

>>32143065
>court case that says anybody can lobby the government
Okay? This was never up for debate. The discussion was about whether ‘corporations are natural people’ or not. That case also establishes labour unions can do the same thing, so by your own logic a european-style Labour Party is a “KKKorpo-fascist business being treated as a legal citizen”. Moron

>>32143906
>average american home nearly twice the size of the average japanese home

>>32127052
Based

>>32144616
This isn't even meant to be mean, but how much of that is because her mother is dead? I know my father seemed to try to be closer to me when my mother passed away, overall was more affectionate & understanding than when I was younger and she was still around. Marine's situation with a caring father who she's close with could be an exception rather than the rule.

>>32139142
>fucks around
>finds out
>what the fuck you're ruining my life, slut!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I have no sympathy for retard

>>32144616
She isn't really close with him. Last I remember it had been 3 or 4 years since she'd gone home to see him and her older sister. She's always talking about being lonely but doesn't want to see her remaining family. That's not a foreign concept to me but I wouldn't say she's the type to cling to her family.

>>32131438
lmao marinechads just keep winning.
Hope the guy's crying and getting kicked out of his mom's place as we speak.

>>32144857
Holy mother of ESL. Please go back to school asap.

>>32144214
was she? post was from may. she went on break september/october iirc

>>32145018
just made a typo anon, it's a single letter you dumb fuck

>>32139174
>I'm an American libertarian.
KEK

>>32144933
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jiCKdgjFl-E

>>32145038
The sept/oct break was for her throat, no?

>>32145038
brief break I guess
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1393145875254239238

>>32144525
Belgium
Denmark
Netherlands

>>32131438
Holy based captain, I kneel

>>32131438
>he was a really persistent numberfag
ogey I don't pity that guy anymore

Newfag here, so if you post on 5ch you just immediately dox yourself? If your IP address is visible anyone can just look you up right?

>>32145213
>countries where you can't open carry an AR into Walmart
try again bucko

>>32145148
Bootlicker

>>32139174
bait? It reminds me of pic related though.

>>32145213
>every single one has a higher cost of living and lower average income
>every single one has no free speech or self-defence protections
Try again

>>32145213
far whiter too

>>32145384
Some threads on 5ch have IP others don't I believe. And it's not like having someone IP means much to random tards

>>32127052
As bad as this place is, we've never gone this far in trying to ruin chuubas. I hope Marine wins her suit.

>>32145497
>>32145396
>higher cost and lower average income
Your typical wagie making $20k/year can live comfortably and get a better job in any of those three countries
>muh guns
I know it's hard for you to imagine a working police force and proper social programs that reduce crime

>>32145617
>we've never gone this far in trying to ruin chuubas
Ever visited a Mori or a vshojo thread?

>>32145444
There's no greater bootlickers than libertarians
It's an ideology entirely centered on making sure the boot will be licked

You must be a migopiss as well

>>32136420
It really does.
Libel laws are a slippery slope. It will erode implicit societal trust further and won't do the country any good.

If this is their response to bullying and its consequences then they're really incompetent.

>>32144286
That'd mean changing the black companies, the social hierarchy where grandfathers are gods, the whole belief system of putting the many before the self and the meme that talking feelings is a woman thing.

It's so hard it might as be impossible. Nothing simple about it.

>>32145702
>can live comfortably and get a better job
Lolno. Wages are lower, rent is higher. This is indisputable.

>europe is freer!
>no it isn’t, here’s an example
>so what? That just means we’re better
Good to see you concede your original claim was incorrect.

>>32145830
>wanting to be independent is bootlicking
>wanting to rely on the state for sustenance is freedom
“War is peace, freedom is slavery”

>>32145912
>It will erode implicit societal trust further and won't do the country any good.
>Saying this about JAPAN and implying muttland is better

>>32145702
>I know it's hard for you to imagine a working police force and proper social programs that reduce crime
and no blacks lmao

>>32146084
Oh no, definitely not. The USA has its own host of problems. Many of them way more pressing then the discussed case. Free speech however is pretty based. Eroding implicit societal trust is in the interest of the state and makes it harder to organize if that shiny leather boot drops all its pretense.

>>32144732
Average American is also twice the size of the average Japanese.

>>32146301
>average Japanese cup size in 1982: A
>average Japanese cup size in 2022: D
Not for long

>>32146403
Average BMI for a Japanese woman is 21.7, average for an American woman is 28.5.
Their cup sizes are increasing for the same reason their heights are, economic prosperity has lead to less malnutrition during childhood & adolescence meaning they grow up healthier.

>>32146663
All I care about is that nip women are plumping up into exquisite slampigs, such as Marine who herself confirms she has an abnormally phat arse

Soon the world shall comprise of PAAGs getting piped by white men

>>32127052
Unreasonably based.

>>32127052
Fucking BASED & BLESSED
Marineschizos get fucked.

>>32127052
Wow

>>32127052
I would go full Kyoani on their offices if a faceless cartoon tried to sue my broke ass for shitposts

So has this actually been confirmed true?

or

Source: Trust me bro

>>32139142
>making miserable the life of an already pathetic and miserable retard.

BASED BASED BASED

>>32150994
Only circumstantial evidence:
>Chuuba with over 1m Twitter followers
>Comment shitting on them having no mother, a topic Marine is hesitant to talk about
>Comment itself was on a Marine thread

>>32127052
Based, you dont fuck with the Captain

>>32150994
This happens regularly in Japan. Their defamation laws are some of the worst in the world.

>>32146663
Japanese women are slimmer now than in the 80s

I shit you not

>>32146060
>Libertarians quoting communists to make a point
At some point you have to realise you're just a socialist

Libel cases aren’t about beating the epic internet trolls. It’s about putting a face behind the words and actions of anti. Once your face is out there, you’re fucked. You will have to live your entire life in fear of vigilantes.

Marine is smart

>>32152176
sounds like the best to me

>>32152317
>stop using my own logic against me

>>32152419
Fuck you, it's my RIGHT as a citizen of the free world to call people faggots, niggers, kikes and whores on the internet.

>>32152551
your right to swing your fist ends at the point where my face begins, deal with it

>>32152551
That's your right, but is also their right to sue you for slander.

>>32130067
America is a shithole where you can lie and slander people for your own benefit

Marine is such a girlboss

>>32150754
maybe it's time to realize that these
>faceless cartoons
are real people?

>>32152773
Only if you live in an authoritarian hellhole. Sucks if you're Japanese or a SEAmonkey I guess.

>>32152331
ironic considering she hides behind an avatar herself

marine no taking shit of anyone huh

hot

>>32145617
>we've never gone this far in trying to ruin chuubas
There are multiple EOPs on here who tried to drive Rushia to commit suicide by posting 5ch rrats with her twitter tag.

>>32152837
>are real people?
proof?

>>32152551
Rights aren’t real
If someone can silence you, then they deserve to be able to do so. Shit talkers had to fear for their safety for the rest of human history and it worked out fine, why change tradition?

>>32153327
so niggers deserve to be able to kill you because they can

>>32153387
don't want to get hit don't talk shit, it's not rocket science

>>32133600
anon
there are people who just want to see the world burn

>>32153327
Turn off the screen and go outside. The internet isn't real.

>>32153639
The internet is real because money is involved, and money decides everything.

If some anti wants to damage someone’s reputation and income, they deserve to bleed. Only by having consequences to your words and actions do they become valuable

>>32152837
Not when her name is not on the suit

>>32153819
Free expression is a fundamental right in the western world. The fact that you don't value it means you're either a batshit insane authoritarian nutcase, or you live in the third world where that's considered normal and you can beheaded for insulting the great leader. It also means you don't belong on this website.

>>32152592
>conflating words with violence

>>32152773
>freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences
Stalin said this word for word to justify arresting political dissenters and banishing them to siberian gulags

>>32153500
Niggers deserve to kill you, it’s not rocket science

>>32154129
good thing no one is saying that

>>32153819
>money decides everything
Power decides everything.

>>32154171
You are.
>rights do not exist, if someone has power over you they should be able to do what they want to you >>32153327

>>32154264
you have the right to legal council, you do not have the right to face no consequences for talking shit if the person you're talking shit about chooses to apply consequences, seethe about it

>>32127052
>>32152331
>>32146848
this is kind of petty and insecure.

>>32154355
None of that even applies in large parts of the west (special shoutouts to the UK and Australia, too bad Obama stopped libel tourism). You can't sue someone for "talking shit" on an anonymous imageboard. That's the point - Japan's defamation laws are outdated garbage.

>>32145617
do you really believe this counts as "trying to ruin"?

>>32139037
it's petty.

>>32139037
This
Anti the chuuba all you want but dont fuck with their personal lives

>>32154551
The guy being sued isn't even anonymous by definition, anon. He chose to post on a board that shows his IP address publicly, not surprising that he's eating shit for that. People usually don't want to try suing fags on actual anonymous board because the process is long and expensive, the cost outweigh the end result severely. This guy though, he's just stupid.

>>32154744
seethe

>>32154672
YES

>>32155487
Well, yeah, showing your IP is indeed stupid. Some ISPs are very trigger happy with handing out subscriber info.

>>32154355
See >>32154063

>>32155872
see >>32153500

>>32155909
See >>32153500

>>32155909
Meant to refer to >>32154129

>>32155949
see>>32154171

>>32154355
these are only "consequences" because you want them to be. because you want to inflict harm. even a court could rule it as a disproportionate response.

>>32156231
talk shit get hit

>>32156034
>>32155909
>>32155872
>>32156094
see >>32154129

>>32153942
did you read the article retard?

>>32156348
see >>32153500

>>32156348
>>32155872
>>32155909
>>32155949
>>32156034
>>32156094
meant to refer to >>32156034

>>32156094
See >>32154264

>>32156285
>talk shit about mori, vshojo, etc
yaas queen slay!!!
>talk shit about [your favorite vtuber]
wtf how are people allowed to do this??? death penalty NOW

I can't believe Marine is pregnant and that dead mom comment hit her hard because her child will be unable to meet her mom.

>>32156364
yeah and its bullshit, i would go postal too.