/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>51,520: Selen (Nijisanji)
>49,192: Toya (Nijisanji)
>44,597: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,978: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>33,737: Miko (Hololive)
>19,760: Haachama (Hololive)
>17,293: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,253: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,830: Botan (Hololive)
>16,648: Korone (Hololive)
>15,990: GatchmanV (Indie)
>15,020: Roboco (Hololive)
>14,185: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>13,228: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,958: Calli (Hololive)
>12,698: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,847: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,741: Selen (Nijisanji)
>11,337: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,088: Watame (Hololive)
>11,005: Regis (Holostars)
>10,736: NeruMero (Indie)
>10,329: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,124: Kaela (Hololive)
>10,079: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,021: Ema (VSPO)

>>32101012
Do you actually understand how significant the collab was? It was a holoEN/starsEN collab with people other than the usual whores. People are, in a way, concern that she is becoming one of them.

Let it be known that Kronii managed to diffuse the situation on /infinity/ by making people remember she's extremely retarded at actually recognizing the issue.

Legitimately failing upwards

/news/ roundup for 30-08-2022
>>32050966
Recent clip numbers
>>32034911
>>32034951
>>32035178
>>32035222

Why are the Niji girls underperforming?
Twmpus boys could easily exceed their numbers. Is it just a brand thing or a gap between talents?

August events

Hololive
31) Hololive Summer 2022 『Climax Story Live』+ HoloRUST Wipe War

Nijisanji
31) Fuwa last radio (fuwa ch)

>>32101174
I just hope Cover's scouts learn a lesson from all this.

>>32101396
Niji girls are still inclining tho, whereas tempiss is already stagnating.

/#/'s is declining

>参考までにざっくりココ卒待機数
>8時間前 6000
>4時間前 12000
>2時間前 16000
>1時間前 22000
>30分前 45000
>10分前 77000
>5分前 100000
>開始直前 220000

>Climax Story Live current waiting numbers
1600 6 hours

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now
>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>32101181
>>32101207
>>32101288
>>32101347
>>32101410
die feetnigger

ENcels status?

>overlap

>archive reps
>people saying Rye is found in a small corpo called "realcorptv" a company that has only ever been posted in # on vt and no where else
>watch video
>none of the girls sound like Rye
????????????????????????????????????? was it just a shitpost to shit on Ryeschizo a bit for fun or do people here actually have no ears

>>32101579
In shambles kek

>>32101396
Even though Stars brand isn't as strong as Hololive, I feel Nijisanji diluted much of their brand power by accelerating too much so much so that even Pippa has received a slight boost following the failure that is Iluna's gen.

>>32101566
T. Limbless Snake

>>32101606
>shitpost to shit on Ryeschizo a bit for fun
pretty much

>>32101314
Wrong reply mate. I was talking about the Summer Fes where Kronii made an apology tweet for "bullying" Gura.

>>32101604
AIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIA

>>32101606
Rule of thumb is that any rrats started from # are fake, and any rrat that made it to # are real.

>>32101604
How in the hell did a corpo chuuba perform way worse than a bottom-feeder like Pippa?

>>32101488
Why are we compare CSL with Coco graduation stream's waiting room number instead of Holofes3 again ?

>>32100952
I hope that her departure didn't delay the other girl's projects or costumes because honestly, I'm not surprised at this turnaround. May she have fun playing genshit to there to her heart's content and have her own setbacks there because what the hell, what a waste of a slot in EN which could have been an opportunity for another girl to be saved.

>>32101680
She just addressed it in a tweet though, clearly she think it is insignificant too.

>>32101396
Iluna hurt their brand by their hornyposting pre-debut being compared to Tempus being bros on twitter.
After debut they just failed to deliver on expectations.

>>32101604
>that 5 minute Z from 14:10 to 14:15 on Aia

>>32101712
Did she get in because of nepotism from Ina? I read that they are good friends.

>>32101631
You said this when Ethyria came out too and Enna went from a 3view to a 5ker now. Iluna just needs more time to build their own audience.

>>32101604
is that a raid, or funnel?

>>32101712
The whole Sana shit is playing out like a shitposters parody.

>>32101712
Highly likely that Sana got fired and some chink company bought her ala Rushia.

>>32101288
SILVER
>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*
>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers
>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE
>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game
>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2
>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal
>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE
>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz
>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST
>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb
>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8
>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>19) 33,956: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>20) 38,850: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
>21) 41,674: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #6
>22) 38,441: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>23) 50,782: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>24) 28,972: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>25) 52,902: Shiranami Ramune (VSPO) Debut stream
>26) 116,911: Oliver (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>27) 68,650: Salome (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>28) 44,569: Toko (Nijisanji) Karaoke relay
>29) 42,169: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) Mahjong
>30) 49,192: Toya (Nijisanji) Zatsudan with Slither.io


> PER COMPANY
10x: Nijisanji
18x: Hololive
1x: VSPO
1: Indie

> PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Fuwa
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Salome
1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Suisei, Ramune, Oliver, Toko, Tsukasa Tenkai, Touya

>>32101604
Aia and Scarlet should just share 1 channel honestly. Nobody wants to save them anymore so why not help themselves and be creative about it

>>32101810
>Highly likely that Sana got fired
I wouldn't be that surprised if that were the case actually, they have minimum requirements of streams for the first years and she was nowhere close to fulfilling them.

>>32101631
Ignoring solo streams is NijiEN's biggest mistake.
Sure they can sometimes get 5k viewers, but that's due to it being collabs and in the long run it won't help them grow and retain hardcore fans.

>>32101288
BRONZE
>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration
>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*
>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien
>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k
>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit
>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon
>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4
>19) 31,578: Marine (Hololive) Yukata 3D reveal
>20) 38,544: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #5
>21) 38,424: Miko (Hololive) RUST
>22) 30,659: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>23) 39,304: Koyori (Hololive) Marine's self-made game
>24) 25,946: Suisei (Hololive) Gartic Phone
>25) 43,091: Petra (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>26) 37,334: Hal (Neo Porte) Neoporte quiz
>27) 40,308: Rosemi (Nijisanji) NEW OUTFIT REVEAL
>28) 41,757: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>29) 41,845: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft summer festival
>30) 44,597: Pekora (Hololive) RUST

> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: Neo-Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Nijisanji, Marine, Miko, Pekora
2x: Shiina, Fuwa, Suisei, Subaru
1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Hololive, Koyori, Petra, Hal, Rosemi

serious question,
which timeline nijisanji win every monthly gold?

>>32101712
Muh back hort. Muh busy with IRL stuff.

>>32102047
Koshien all day everyday

>>32101810
While she wasn't fired, she was likely asked "Hey, could you, y'know, actually stream more? Contract renewals are coming up, and its a bit of an issue right now"
"Okay, I'm out then, see ya".
And then she left.

>>32102047
The timeline in which YAGOO sells the company

>>32102047
Hololive kills Coco for China in 2020

>>32101950
Close, she quit. Like literally her own request. Though, it could be cover was pushing her to stream more and gave her some sort of ultimatum
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1546637701788876800

>>32101810
From what was said, it sounds like management basically told her that either she start streaming more (and they would help her come up with stream ideas) or she was gone (since she completely failed to uphold her contract requirements).

>>32102047
If that cabaret club project succeeded and they whored the livers out behind the curtain

>>32101604
AIA'S ZS ARE THE MOST PATHETIC THING I'VE EVER SEEN

>>32101604
This graph is looking great for Phase Connect.
If there's a fanbase they can lure in, NijiEN's is ripe for the taking.

>>32102047
when humanity does not invent chair

>>32102047
The timeline in which they don't accelerate like retards, actually reinvest their money into project that may provide them additional returns... and the one where they make it clear to their talent pool what the direction of the company is supposed to be heading into to cultivate a proper community culture.

Wait, did Kronii just call her fans a bunch of losers? She kinda imply that >we don't have female friends and that's why >we see each interaction between male and female chuubas as something sexual.

>>32102233
she literally said the same thing Amelia did but nicer yes because what else is she going to say to a bunch of overreacting manchildren

>>32102183
actually, that cabaret club project is doin fine
it's just the backlash doesn't feel good

How did Sankisei even gain the cabaret club reputation? Afaik they were just doing their own thing back then

>>32102047
Timeline where .live mogging homolive

>>32102233
Kronie. Stop being a Schizo and twisting her words like she said

>>32102233
L + Ratio + ur cringe @ parasocial fucks

>>32101697
honestly probably the way to live by, this place concocts alot of dogshit yet when news is brought in from outside its almost always true.

>>32102323
They mogged Nijisanji.
Just look at all the Pippa hate threads in the catalog.

>>32102233
>>we see each interaction between male and female chuubas as something sexual.
Isn't that what is posted in /vt/ fairly regularly? In fact, it is a very common opinion outside of /vt/ and you can even see that in places like Facebook and twitter being spouted fairly regularly.

>>32102233
Unironically saying
>improve yourself
would've been a better outcome just for the memes. It's on par though on what ame said but it's close to when Bae said "grow up"

>>32101712
Honestly this to me more than anything else is just a hard expose on how shit EN management is. I get it that she's a talented artist and and a nepo hire but they really shouldn't be wasting slots, which they only add once per year, on people who couldn't give less of a shit about hololive as a brand. They should be way more focused on getting people that want to be a part of holo for holo itself in the future

>>32102299
That is what I get from the message too. Thank god my EN oshi is professional and never collab with males.

>>32102323
bunny girl with classic bunny girl outfit
horny pirate
cowtits
yandere necromancer
dark elf

>>32102427
If that’s the goal then they have failed since Myth because Mori and Kiara is right there

My comments regarding the incident of Kronii and Tempus,
I am grateful because now Kronii is showing off her mammary gland again

>>32102365
Feeesh... Like Vox, these sluts came crawling back and bended over

>>32102389
>grow up
If I grow up I wouldn't be watching some foreign aunties pretending to be anime girls.

>>32102438
>EN oshi

So you're a whore or a cheater, gotcha

>>32101700
just a typical numberrot fags.
Leave him be, he's beyond reasoning with

>>32102323
I don't know probably some retard saw a single nip post from 3 years ago calling them that and then spammed it on 4chan that's usually how these memes work

>>32102323
Popularized sc reading and also welcomed the unicorns kicked out from other v corps e.g. .live, nijisanji, etc

>>32102299
I honestly think improve yourself is better. At least Ame didn't practically call her audience incels

>>32102438
>Thank god my EN oshi is professional and never collab with males.
That's what they said about kroni. Look what happen now

>>32102089
Spamming the same shit too much and number will go down eventually.
I don't think Niji do that will actually saved their month gold

>>32102569
Worse. I am a greyname.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQuFRSi5ebc
UMISEA brosss

>>32102639
I don't think anyone has said that Kronii is professional?

Who has the biggest disparity between their floor and ceiling in vtubing? Not including collabs/3d concerts/outfit reveals etc

>>32102639
The day IRyS collab with a male is the day I quit watching vtubers.

>>32102701
can't wait

>>32102639
Since when was Kronii professional?

>>32102703
Ollie

>>32101606
looked up this corp... unironically grim

>>32102484
I think it's one thing to have people like that early on because you can't expect everyone to be fully experience when you're entering a new market, but by now they're the biggest name in vtubing in the west, they really have no excuse
For what it's worth I don't like Mori and Kiara for similar reasons

>>32102703
Maimoto with Koshien

>>32102648

>>32102703
Either Salome or Miko. Since Miko can't stop playing that 100 day survival minecraft.

>pathetic parasocial unicorn still talking kronii's shit
damn, is this thread run by Voldemort?

>>32102648
Just make a new unit not Umisea since it makes ENonlys seethe at how you let them down.

>>32102648
Huh, the trailer shows abit of gura's tail. Are they really singing on stage?

>>32102648
EN will never wear idol outfits

>>32102920
yeah, check the twitter

>>32102703
>Not including collabs/3d concerts/outfit reveals etc
Anya then

>>32102891
EN was a mistake anyway.

>>32102648
Nice they are appearing in 3D, hope they sing something else than the Umisea song.

>>32102761
It was 12 a day ago. And it still is. Their debut is on September. Unironically 1 view debut folks

>>32102703
I'm assuming that "not included" is company events. I can't think of any JPs, they're too consistent. There is Subaru who went from 40k (Persona 4) > 10k (Rust (multipov)) in two day

>listening anime avatar
>it's not using Japanese
why people can stand it, it's like enjoying dub anime

>>32102860
>contributing to the topic
Anon, you're not helping. In fact, you're even more pathetic since you had to waste a post (and your time) also talking about it instead of bringing up something else to talk about to the thread.

>>32102928
How many EN deserved idol outfit anyway? I personally don't like Kiara but I think she might be the only one deserved it.

>>32103020
must have been very hard these few days for you, Kronie

>>32103011
>watching streamers
>they arent male
whats even the point? men are just better entertainers

>>32103011
>ESL

>>32103011
>listening to people
>they're not speaking english
WHYYY

>>32102233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Jb-LAEYKE

>>32102945
I wouldn't be on those odds considering that HoloFes is yet to be announced and we don't know how that one will go down.

>>32103105
That's a good thumbnail

>>32103029
Like you can make Morishit wear that badge of honor. She got her Cap and Jeans already. I'm looking forward to Gura's

>>32103078
I'm not Kronii, anon. Take your meds.

>>32103087
They are bugmen

>>32103029
It would be nice to see Calli in an idol outfit for the gap moe, but I doubt she'll do her idol reps.

>>32103153
holy fuck I just realized Mori in an idol outfit would be some wild juxtaposition

>>32103105
So close.

>>32103011
We can't stand your ESL writing so delete yourself

>>32102761
>Realcorp
>Hire a bunch of LGBT Twittards
Literally DOA company
>>32102427
More like notSana didn't expect her Korone clone to blow up on B2. And after it gained popularity she was stuck with a bunch of deadline for Artknight + new Chink game contract and that's where she announce "back hort" on Twitter. And after awhile she couldn't keep up with the work load and has to choose between her chink audience vs Hololive, and she chose the former.

>>32103105
>do you wanna date your friends of the opposite sex? Like all of them?
H-haha, who would do that...

does Kronii collab with Tempus hurt you so much??
who is your oshi now bro?

>>32103105
>red letters with black outline
>4k views
Stop promoting your own clip.

sometimes i forget we have actual clipperniggers in here

so, from a #numbers perspective, is this """drama""" god for exposure?

>>32103285
I just got recommended that clip, dumbass

Are all NijiEN still using 1.0 model?

>>32103277
Go bait the kronies at Infinity anon. You'll get more genuine (yous) there. It's all falseflaggers here

>>32101181
these toes are so beautiful. amazing drawing

>>32103105
I had this stream off to the side and got her message across. Now that I'm focusing in on her again, she sounds like she wants to drop fucking dead right then and there

>>32103277
Miryo from kawaii
not looking back

>>32103357
Yeah right.

>>32103285

holofag really not the bright one on brain department

>>32102047
timeline when sora went to AV industry instead that one tech company

>>32103429
That's the best timeline wtf

>>32103366
yeah... you couldn't tell?
that's how niji works

Magni crawled back to 3.6k from 3k earlier. Guessing alot of people tabbed back in to watch the ship get shot down

>>32103429
fr the best timeline
niji can take the vtuber industry and let holomem become jav idol

>>32103105
From the same dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe6bHYUk0z4&t=3s

>>32103277
fauna

>>32103105
Yeah, i agree that's enough for kronies. For falseflag nigger though, not enough. They will still stir drama until they find better bait

>>32103528
They'll be camwhores instead anon

>>32103516
Yeah, go back to mans for that or else I post THAT picture again.

>>32103516
He also got some funnel before from Mori ending.

>>32103353
No, unless Kronii somehow can convert virtue signalers into paying members to replace the ones who are tired of her.

>NIJIEN
>call your chuubas livers
>no chuubas are live

why is this?

>>32103260
Not everyone can draw as fast as Ina. She is a world-class artist due to that alone. There's probs less than a thousand artists capable of both the speed AND level of polish she manages to do. And she chose to be a vtuber.

>>32103366
niji are using achievement millstone and how long you work for nijisanji to get upgrade their l2d
some his collage already using 2.0

>>32103353
Absolutely not.
All its done is open Pandora's box for Kronii and her fanabse, and it can never be closed again.

>>32103584
all fc2 starlet become jav idol start from camwhore career

I swear they have 4 members right?

>>32103627
>And she chose to be a vtuber.
So like 90% of japanese illustrators?

bait too strong

>>32103725
Rio...
why are they excluding the girl?

>>32103725
>orang range
why they need add female voice

>>32103767
Izuru-chan...

>Get a Costume
>Get a lot of exposure from it
>Do a karaoke, ok.
>This
Is she retarded?

>>32103277
Towa

>>32103325
In here, on the catalogue, everywhere you look on this board anon. Stream watchers are the minority.

>>32103792
dude izuru's voice is so hoarse like smoking 5 packs of cigarettes a day

>>32103353
Not really, but it won't affect her either. It will just rile up some nijischizos to shitpost about her for a week then move onto the next target

>>32103725
They don't need female vocals

>>32103725
Izutsu-chan
sorry i fucked up

>>32103366
what are this guys?
niji have so many talents that I always see a new face time to time

>>32103941
Unfortunately it's one girl with 2 different desings

>>32103725
no girls allowed

>brought commandos 3 remaster
>doesn't have time to play
i hope my oshi will play the game

>>32103353

>>32103353

If she did well at Rust people gonna forget about it but resemblance of a homo collab again war probably gonna erupt again.

>>32103277
>Imagine oshi EN
Kek

>>32103831
She needs to milk the fans before she goes on a vacation

>>32104059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aut31f8UP5E

I can't help but remember how oddly Mori phrased it when she first talked about tempus, saying that she was already "tainted", what does it mean when she keeps inviting the other girls?

>>32103637
I think there's one more wave in exID that haven't received their 2.0, then there's NijiFes in October, and supposedly another wave in November.

So, Lazulight in December?

>>32104191
I'm surprised kronii didn't find that offensive

>>32102983
Subaru just needs to not overlap with pekora and she's all good.

>>32103637
Does Nijisanji still have that social credit like point system?

>>32102233
>Kronii just call her fans a bunch of losers
So this is what she meant people would stlll try to twist her words...

>>32104280
TIMERyS LIVES

>>32103394
She's trying to hold back her cringe by explaining it in a way that mentally 5 year old incels would understand that talking to a coworker doesn't mean having sex with them

>>32104280
>don't ship me with coworkers it's weird
>oh by the way shipping is fine
like, i get what she's trying to say/do but jesus fucking christ is she retarded

>>32103831
She has exams, she's taken breaks a few times for this reason

Milord... Sisters... your 1.1m subs how could they let this even come close to happening?

>>32104466
>ship me with people i want to be shipped with
>don't ship me with people that I don't want to be shipped with
it's pretty straightforward.

>>32104561
Is this the reason why we have so many Tempus baits right now? Luxiem is actually losing ground to homostars lol.

>>32104569
>it's pretty straightforward.
clearly not that straightforward for her considering she had to make that tweet to correct herself

>>32104280
At this point I legit think that EN Vtubers (from all companies, no exception) should 't be allowed to post on Twitter, they are all retarded, just let your manager do the thing posting the corpo obligated tweet and fuck off

>>32104237
Nijisanji really fucked up by axing their ID branch. It could've been inclining now by virtue of being in the same market as HoloID.

kawaii actually inclining because of this shit LMAO

>>32104466
https://youtu.be/v2vWDWxYJBc

>>32104561
What wrong with Vox lately?

>>32104656
I don't think the Luxiemsisters care about Tempus
Sisters are annoying but they don't shit up the catalog

https://youtu.be/HLZ8kjFKMh0
how hag and veteran is Koyori to the point of making Pekora slip

>>32104561
AHHHH DELTE DELETE DELETEE

>>32096234
>Ollie has accomplished more than Towa
If the Kobo rrat is true, then it is more accurate to say that Ollie accomplished more in HoloID than Towa is in HoloJP. Ollie helped expand the HoloID mindshare and change the trajectory of that pitiful market from being highly dependent on gaijins to being able to crack the local Indo market.

>>32104656
I remember these sisters were doom posting Tempus so hard neutral anons got so annoyed they came up with the mag meme.

>>32104869
Why can't Hana be like Ollie?

>>32104561
jesas

>>32104883
Oh, the "sisters" were doing it now? I don't think many people in this thread had their hopes too high

>>32102233

>>32104869
what rrat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Jb-LAEYKE
jwu and saw this kek
she really just straight up ignored the actual issue people were having huh
Interestingly enough, only those who can read between the lines can understand what she meant here, and the rest will probably either drop off slowly, go stockholm syndrome or become antis.

How come ID3's massive audience is so welcoming to Tempus?
ID viewers never have this weird parasocial obsession with ID vtubers at all. Is that part of the culture?

>>32104772
Ocean is a near perfect Kronii substitute.

>>32105020
I don't even know if it's a rrat to say that Kobo and Ollie are really close, like, probably direct nepo hire

>>32105020
Kobo getting hired thanks to Ollie's recommendation.

>>32101604
Jesas. I wish we have the graphs for Phase Connect too.

>>32101604
I do not mind that pathetic retention from Shu's raid (or funnel) to Rosemi. They are different after all. But fucking useless Petra. She did not only fail to raid, there is practically zero funnel at all to Rosemi.
Fucking Shu (a male) cares more than Petra (a genmate). Petra? Family? My ass.
Sorry I got frustrated despite being not a Nijifan.

>>32105112
Based Ollie hiring a loli

>>32104561
k-kobo buff!!!

I'm afraid to ask because JWU but why catalog looks blue today?

>>32105090
ID1 debuted the same time as stars3. They have been collabing from the start.

>>32101604
>Scarle is NijiENs floor

>>32105151
Failed to raid what? she had a stream later on you imbecile and she doesn't raid anyone

>>32105018
This edit makes no sense
The diablo guy asked about people having smartphones, which all of them have
Kronii asked if her viewers had female friends, which most of them don't

It's time for small corpos to rise up I guess. Let's see if Phase, Kawaii or Prism will gain anything of this "drama"
But once HoloEN3 arrives, these small corpos might shrink back down again.

>>32104813
two kids, one in middle school one in preschool

>>32105090
ID1 debuted about the same time as StarsJP 3 I think it was and the 2 groups basically started interacting with each other out the gate because of that and the fact they were both tiny. From the start, the ID audience has been used to the Stars doing stuff with the ID girls sometimes.

>>32105184
Don't bother asking here.

>>32104466
>>32104569
So basically Mysta?

>>32105090
Maybe because the people shitting on Tempus collabs were HoloEN antis?
HoloID doesn't have that much antis except for Ollie and that's because she's the one closest to EN vtubing sphere.

>>32105226
you're about as talented as kronii in missing the point

>>32104972
We didn't have our hopes too high because we're /#/ and we saw the numbers for other Homos and even Nijis to some extent. Other than that, no one was really going out of their way to shit post since people mostly expected them to be just another second class citizen group.

The catalog was garbage though...

>>32105238
Also, Kaoru initiated a lot of collabs with id. He was best boy and girl. Shame he graduated.

>>32105274
No one expects Tempus to constantly mog Iluna. This is especially painful how the HoloEN fanbase has been welcoming to Tempus for the most part.
Only a small percentage of unicorns are mad.

>>32105296
beyblade > holostars

>>32105112
dude that rrat made by ollie's fans lol
most id doxxfag already know about kobo's past life persona and she is quite talented

>>32105151
>funnel
>nijien
does not exist anon. just look at that poor retention

>>32105274
It's hard to shitpost with Tempus given the fact that they constantly mog Iluna.

Man, a lot of HoloJP 3D Lives this year have been incorporating foreign members with 3D models like ID1 and Myth.
I wonder if Lazulight and Hana will get the same treatment since they can now go to Japan for 3D debuts.

>>32103105
>why would someone date her coworkers?
>we are being professional, everyone is profesional here
>why would they want to risk to damage their reputation, think about it, come on
Top 10 NTR plots

>>32105233
Actually what is the point of watching holoEN themselves now that the idol stuff is totally dropped?

You want male-female collab and mix gender fun? You have nijiEN
You want full on parasocial GFE? You have Kawaii
You want /here/ chuuba with constant drama? You have Phase Connect
You want experience someone like a "real" anime girl? Sorry nothing of the sort from the EN side.

>>32105105
I don't really think it is a nepotism hire. Kobo is just too talented and shows too much potential to be ignored. She is good at talking, good at acting like a child, and can sing.
My bet is that Ollie saw Kobo's potential and coached Kobo what to do during the interview and video submission. Ollie is knowledgeable about vtubers before she got in, and especially when she got in, so she knows how to groom Kobo to become a vtuber.

>>32105393
?
There are lots of promising Id streamers but Kobo was especially mentioned by Ollie.

>>32105264
You are retarded and your meme edit is shit

>>32105233
kawaii's ccv doubled and the new gen was a big success (for kawaii standards)

>>32105233
Phase Connect is inclining thanks to Nijisanji's blunder.
Hard to displace Hololive because other than their unique content, none can match their concerts.

>>32105357
Mogging Iluna, or Nijisanji in general was a relatively low bar to climb (it's what? 3k average for most of the girls). I don't think much of anyone was against HomoENs existing either. The collabs with the girls is another story though since it isn't just unicorns that were against them.

>>32105497
What if you want mostly solo content with occasional collabs to mix things up?

>>32105296
Speaking of Kaoru
>HoloJP inclined after gen3
>HoloID inclined after gen3
>HomoJP WAS inclining with gen3 by Kaoru, until he suddenly got fired
>HoloEN gen3?

>>32105518
hey at least i still got a (You)
thanks by the way
especially considering it's not even my edit lmao

>>32105640
I want a true kusogaki for EN3!

>>32105605
you shouldn't be on a board full of schizos and shill-interns if you have tastes that hit the broader 95% middle, or at least not the shill hub general

>niji karaoke relay drama
Probably nothing burger but still kek

>>32105497
I never watched Kronii, Mori, or Bae so nothing has changed for me.
People can want male-female collabs and watch Holo instead of Niji just because they like the people involved. It's like asking why people don't watch OTV or twitch streamers instead of NijiEN because they have even more mixed gender fun and celeb collabs than Niji can offer. You're allowed to like certain people.

>>32105497
>You want male-female collab and mix gender fun? You have nijiEN
Ame, Mori, Kroni, Bae
>You want full on parasocial GFE?
Gura, Fauna and Irys
>You want /here/ chuuba with constant drama?
Mori
>You want experience someone like a "real" anime girl?
SNOT + Ina

And to drive on your points one more, none of those corpos have the type of promotion that Cover gives to HoloEN. They will never have quality figurines, a big-ass statue, 3D Lives and even a cafe that sold out immediately.

>>32105580
I find it funny how Pippa manage to incline despite shitting on NijiEN.

>>32105737
They're not full on GFE

>kobo helps expanding ID to the local audiences with her talent
>this is somehow Ollie's contribution which put her ahead of Towa
>all because of some doxx rrat about nepotism hire
Where did these people come from?

>>32105704
qrd?

>>32105588
I'm sorry, but only the unicorns are against them since I find the most supportive messages on Twitter, YT, and even discords.

Sometimes the catalog is alright.

>>32105497
>idol stuff is totally dropped
You cannot drop what does not inherently exist in the first place.
>but muh gfe, etc
I don't think you know what being idol (at least in akb terms) means.

>>32105497
Nijisanji treats their females like accessories tho.
It's why they can never top Vspo and Holo girls who collab with males.

>>32105737
Small corpos can try to be Holo-lite but they lack the money to truly compete against HoloEN, and yes, even NijiEN can't match the type of money Cover is willing to spend on HoloEN and ID.

>>32105822
kek

>>32105605
Well, that depends on whether you are willing to do your reps. If you are unwilling, there is pretty much nothing to offer like that outside of hololive unless you want to dive deep into parasocial side of Kawaii, which I don't recommend. Safe bet is to just return to watch Gura because she would never betray her fans.

>>32105704
lmao how the fuck do you even start a drama from a karaoke lol.

>>32105822
Just use that every time someones baiting

>>32105822
lmao that nigga dead

>>32105737
Anykara last year made more money than Cover. They can totally invest in NijiEN if they want to.

>>32105640
finally the perfect chance for my number mysticism rant:

HoloEN Myth WAS the gen3 of overseas branches

>Debut HoloCN1 in Fall of 2019
1st gen, cursed
>Debut HoloID1 in April 2020
2nd gen, slow to incline, star is basically created from chance events (Pekomoona, Shuba duckification / naming YAGOO)

>Debut HoloMyth Sept 2020
3rd gen, blessed, even the lowest members are venerated and one will soon graduate

>>32105922
>if
>when
>just imagine

>>32105922
BUUUUUUUUTTTTT THEY DIDNT!!!!!

>>32105922
They made more money cause they skimp paying for trainings and things that improve the welfare of their personnel.

>>32104561
Vox sisters cannot defeat the power of Indonesians led by the poop-eating kusogaki.

>>32105798
some Nijis complaining about going first/early in the relay, not getting a big redirect or no redirect at all or some dumb shit.

So, Vesper uploaded his 1st video with higlights of FTL stream - will it imporve his numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICi_vVv1nMU

>>32105951
> and one will soon graduate
You mean NijiEN and Vox I presume

>>32105964
They don't need to since NijiEN has been logging HoloEN to high heaven, even Obsydia has been beating Myth constantly for the past two days. Counting in Luxiem would be too unfair.

>>32105964
They dont need to since they are literally the biggest vtuber agency!

>>32105737
>They will never have quality figurines, a big-ass statue, 3D Lives and even a cafe that sold out immediately.
Do you seriously pick your chuubas based on how many figurines they have?

>>32106023
>gontinyu~~~

>>32105922
If their next financial quarter shows them reinvesting shit then sure, but until then....
>They're just hoarding the cash to buy back shares once the lockout is done

>>32106004
Sounds like everyday drama, probably just the kind you get every day from a company that big.

>>32106047
the Avengers of vtubing
I kneel

>>32102233
Men and women can't be friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

>>32105916
Noraneko made her own singing program to counter Niji's company mandated relay the last time this thing happened. The people there are petty as fuck.

>>32106004
>some Nijis
Name them

>>32106056
I can buy them and make a nice little corner.

>>32105951
Terminated you mean, both Kaoru and Rushia are terminated.

>>32106064
Niji has gotten two big wins in Hololive's turf, those being Luxiem and salome. Meanwhile, hololive has been stagnating and firing actual moneymakers. Cover makes too many mistakes to catch up to Anycolor

>>32106068
They have been investing in multimedia projects like LieVerse and the new Nijisanji horror game though.

>>32106155
Rushia did nothing wrong!

I still can't believe Pekora bought a fucking monkey.

>>32106179
You sure you're not mistaking Nijisanji for Hololive?

>>32106195
Yeah, me.
t.SEAmonkeychad

>>32106179

>>32105262
>people shitting on Tempus Collabs are HoloEN Antis
>most of the people shitting on Tempus collabs are HoloEN members
Baffling post
Maybe no one asked for Males EN faggot. HoloStars EN was a fucking mistake

>>32106221
Go fucking search their Twitter you dumbass, or do some archive diving

Is blatant shitposting just for the sake of shitposting really that fun?
There's tons of fun threads in the catalog you can troll instead.

>>32106179
>Nijisanji horror game
Niji Error

>>32106195
A FUCKING MONKEY.

>>32106244
Then blame Yagoo for practically promoting them everywhere. He fucking made a magging shirt and paraded it at CRX for thousands to see.

>>32106010
It's on track to pass most of his zatsu VODs so yeah it's doing good
Hilariously enough, it's doing better than some of the Baecast videos Bae just posted too.

>>32106256
Yes. I have been larping as a butthurt unicuck and getting lots of (you)s.

>>32106314
Bae...

>>32106256
You post blatant shitposts daily in global with that very image.

>>32105223
>she had a stream later
I guess you have a point ONLY when she will overlap Rosemi again since it is rude when you drop your viewers to Rosemi just to pull them back when you stream later. But if she will resume streaming after Rosemi's stream, this is inexcusable.
>she doesn't raid anyone
You just make it sound worse. Where's the "family" theme? Shu and Tempus are much better in expressing this family thing.

>>32106256
I don't think it is entirely shitposting. Some kronies are genuinely disappointed even though they can see what is coming a mile away. They would probably still watch her but more will drop her gradually. The process of de-oshi-fication is usually gradual.

>>32101181
Why are feet so erotic?

>>32106278
its "Niji is a Mistake"

>>32106155
No, Kaoru wasn't terminated. But Cover did cut all ties to him at a later date due to the whole using Kaoru credentials to enter a fucking Beyblade tournament.

>>32105798
>>32105916
During the relay Enna talked too much cause the delay and Reimu decided to sing one more song after her time is up.
These pissed some people off because the following singers have to shorten their time.
It is nothing burger because the following singers after reimu are nijiid not nijijp but still reimu or her mod were deleting the comments which mentioned about the overtime stuff.

>>32106278
>Niji Error
Niji Bug you mean

>>32106403
>id getting mad again
ah okay so it's a pure nothingburger kek
damn id fans are sensitive, reminds me of the moom rust incident

>>32105640
believe in Holo 3rd gen magic, brother.
3 is a lucky number in holo.
EN3 will incline the brand to the moon & the golden gen that put myth to shame.
StarsEN3 will save holostars brand, save EN male vtubing & incline the brand to the moon.
I always have faith with holo 3rd generation magic

>>32106403
>It is nothing burger because the following singers after reimu are nijiid
kek
no one care about nijiid, if anything thanks to reimu to shorten those id peeps singing time

>>32106439
They're NijiID viewers, not HoloID viewers. NijiID viewers are notorious second-class citizens in ID since they can't speak English.

>>32106403
>former 3views shitting on current 2views in their tiny window to escape the banishment room

family atmosphere where?

>>32106451
just don't debut a green haired chuuba this time, EN 3 you can do it

>>32106451
What if I curse EN3 by saying "EN3 will debut 5 gura killers"?

>>32106314
I think if Nowa-oji is planning to have more long game streams like that (and with TallyAnon Fortress and more FTL sure looks like it) those shorter, more accesible videos can increase his subs over time.

>>32106511
>Rye is greenhaired

>>32106127
Anon cannot name them, because it is just /#/ being mad at Millie being a failure at raiding. It is just /#/ projecting.
Btw I am impressed at Salome. She actually raided the next singer. And Kuzuha onahole fuck you for failing to raid Salome.

>>32106451
Pekora's favorite number is 3 for a reason.

>>32101458
>Niji girls
A whole three of them. Can't wait for the next wave!

>>32106554
If rindou raided salome, she wouldve gotten gold that day.

>>32106524
That curse only works for non-Holo vtubers. When you use it on Hololive members, the effect is positive, i.e Kobo

>>32106524
Sorry, gura curse only applies to Niji

>>32105922
Almost like they made more profit because they refuse to invest in their talents.

>>32106403
>During the relay Enna talked too much
Everyone who decides to talk a lot in a singing relay deserves to get some amount of shit for it.

>>32106627
My inner tribalfag is grateful for that, but I am still mad about it because I am a numberfag first and foremost.

>>32106660
>>32106679
Anya....

>>32106403
>reimu's karaoke relay vod
>35 mins
Israel

>>32106627
I actually went to sleep that night after Noel's 3D live.
Imagine the sweat bullets I had when I saw Salome start her stream 2 minutes before midnight and got 68k.

>>32106451
Did HoloCN inclined after gen3 though? I didn't really follow them before Haachama unfortunate numberfagging incident

>>32106660
>the effect is positive
>she had a menhera breakdown on twitter due to irl stuff literally a day after some kobokeks invoked the gura killer curse ITT
Sure, mate.

>>32106734
Anya is beating her friend Petra constantly these days though

>>32106734
What? She's pretty successful by ID standard

>>32106794
HoloCN only went up to 2nd gen. they never had a "sankisei"

>>32105951
I believe.
No, I won't take my meds.

>>32106403
They should've use a playlist like picrel did

>>32106799
Kek, no matter how you try to spin it, Kobo is still beating a majority of NIjiEN without speaking English

>Anya is gonna end the month with a 4k average
this some weird witchcraft bro

>>32106799
>checked the archive
Huh, I thought you were shitposting but would you look at that, the timeline actualy lined up.

>>32106403
>Enna talked too much
She really is bargain bin IRyS

>>32106403
So which nijiids are after them?

>>32106837
Wait what, I didn't realize they were that shortlived

>>32106837
The coco yab was instigated by chinese nininiggers that larp as holobros in order to prevent HoloCN3.

So what is the current gold tally? Nijisanji has to win before the HoloCure arc comes back

>>32106899

>>32106953
Hololive handing Niji these last few golds because they already won

>>32106799
>she had a menhera breakdown on twitter due to irl stuff
wait what happened

>>32106975
Wait, were they forced to start streaming on time and wait for 5 minutes for people to come in?

>>32107025
Won my fucking ass, it's a tie already

>>32106802
>>32106803
It took years to take off that curse. She was the runt of her gen from the start. In fact, If i didn't remember wrong, she is the progenitor of gura killer curse.

>>32106953
Holo already won August.

it's 15-15 for now, but tonight holo will get gold with their climax live so 16-15

>>32106451
just want to point out at least in every gen 3 they always have 1-2 breakout star & 1 dormant member that will be extremely popular later (the late bloomer)
JP3: the stars were Rushia (i forgot if marine & Noel also the breakout stars), Pekora is dormant
ID3: Kobo is Star, Kaela is dormant
starsJP3 : Kaoru is a star, for dormant i have no idea but i think it was Shien because dude seems has a lot gachis.

for EN3 & the possible starsEN3 people should ''watch out'' for member who seemed like a runt at first glance, because there's a high chance they will be growing into the most popular chuuba in their gen.
i will keep an eye on the ''runt'' of EN3 if they got released. There's a high chance they're the genuine diamond in the rough.

>>32106794
HoloCN never made it to their 3rd gen anon... For Holostars, they had Kaoru who was a legit rising star for them. He was far and away the branches biggest talent pre-roberu incline and he was part of Stars 3rd gen. If they somehow hit the jackpot again with EN 3 than I suggest cover just speedrun every new branch until they can get to gen 3.

>>32107057
It's over already, anon. Save your shitposting for next month.

>>32106893
Kek reading that thread again, the kobokeks literally got jebaited by a shitposter repeating 'Kobo is a Gura Killer' and invoked it themselves.
Like holy shit man, imagine cursing your oshi with bad karma to the point she got a menhera breakdown because you couldn't stop yourself from biting baits.

>>32107057
Lol no, it’s only a tie if they lose the gold to Tsukasa the other day
Which they didn’t

>>32106899
Layla and Reza(the guy who shorten his time)
It is kinda funny if you look at vrabi's graph.
Layla started her frame on time with 3k viewers and had waited for the raid like 5 mins.

>>32105951
CN had 2 gens though
CN2 (Artia, Rosalyn, Doris) debuted around the same time as ID1

>>32107142
Proof? Fuwa's morning radio got extremely high CCV though. Nijisanji can win back the month

>>32105605
The only good solo content from holoEN is Gura and holoEN will never have a kino collab like the Rust War last night.

>>32107229
No it doesn’t
Literally the biggest flop this month Nijinigger tried to hype up along with NijiNoon. Salome was more of a thread

Do not bite the 15-15 bait. They just want to spice up the boring thread.

>HoloEN 3 will be full of Gura killers
>HoloEN 3 will be full of Gura killers
>HoloEN 3 will be full of Gura killers
>HoloEN 3 will be full of Gura killers
>HoloEN 3 will be full of Gura killers
Enjoy your gen

>>32107141
What happened to Kaoru, seriously? Is playing in a bayblade tournament using vtuber identity that bad?

Okay but seriously did we ever get an update on Pekora's monkey? Can the nousagi in this thread tell us?

I still can't believe Pekora bought a fucking monkey.

>>32107311
What if they actually killed Gura and become the breakaway gen? Would you weep for Gura or cheer for their success?

>>32107311
We do not want Gura killers. We want Gura motivators.

>>32107339
anon, it's dead...

>>32107299
either his samefagging or i can't believe there are retards that would give him cope (you's)

>>32105951
>>32107210
in my version of gen 3 buff it doesn't matter if there's interim debut within that branch because it's:
Kaigai branch 1
Kaigai branch 2
Kaigai branch 3

If they ever debut HoloKR or HoloES they'll get all the troubles of Gen4, including an early graduation and the overwhelming preference to collab cross-branch/gen vs within gen

>>32107299
15-15 is impossible this month though
Last gold decide it all

>>32107316
The gist was that Kaoru got lip-serviced by Yagoo that he can join a beyblade tournament with his Kaoru persona. However, it turned out that wasn't allowed but he already did it anyway.
Due to NDA, he could not reveal his story so he got quietly fired.

4 hrs only 2k waiting 35 holomem + gura/ina pretty weak tbqh

>implying a holoJP keeping a pet is more important than the beginning of the downfall of the entire EN branch

>>32106403
To me the funny part is people noticed this overtime stuff because Reimu decided to delete the comments about it even if it is posted by her member.

How will this affect Milord's numbers?

>>32107395
>Weak
Sankisei gameshow on Pekora channel have that much with 2 hours left, this is better

>>32107409
Well it is ENSharts

>>32107393
I hope he will tell his story once it doesn't matter anymore in the future. Really want to see why beyblade tourney is a nono when Apex tourney a-ok.

>>32107409
Yes
EN brought it upon themselves, they only have themselves to blame

Little petra used to be the lowest-viewed in Nijisanji, averaging around 1000 ccv
Now she averages 2500, pretty amazing transformation.

>>32107409
>the mental health of the most important member of the most important branch
vs
>a fucking side branch
what do you think is more important

>>32106379
>Kaoru wasn't terminated.
Yes he was. It's just that unlike Rushia he was the one who asked for it (at least according to Oga who did a stream right after the announcement)
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1287946514975739905

>>32107393
What is this history revisionism? The beyblade tournament happened AFTER he graduated. And no, Yagoo never did any 'lip service'.

>>32107473
If he tells his story, I would be pulling a rug under Yagoo's feet since his involvement caused the firing of a talent.

>>32107500
How is it the fans' fault when the fans don't want it. Oh wait it is because the fans actually don't mind a fucking mix gender collab. Good riddance.

>>32107456
Deserved, and all it means is that VOD is fucked for the algo. It's not like his viewers go to him via YT recommends anyways, they come in offsite from assorted Chinese forums or direct from his twitter.

>>32107526
She has the new outfit buff. She'll recline in a couple months or so

>>32107409
have someone from EN buy a monke and their branch will be saved

>>32107564
Why is it that every time I hear about this guy the story is different? I swear that last time I heard that he got into a scandal with Miko and that's why they fired his ass. Or am I thinking of someone else?

>>32107581
literally bargain bin koyori without the sex appeal

>>32107581
she just got it a few days ago, she got that viewership with her hold outfit

>>32107311
sadly gura killer curse only work for non-holo, we dont want gura killer anyway, we just want gen that full of unity, creativity & hard work talent that can motivate the entire holoEN

>>32107564
Which means it was a graduation, not unlike Sana.

>>32107571
I think there are something more behind that. Aloe literally broke NDA before debut but Cover chose to lie for her to save her from being terminated.

>>32107456
don't watch chinkman, are all his creepy asmr VODs age-resticted? because that sounds reasonable considering what's in them

>>32107393
Anon he joined the Beyblade tournament and advertised himself as Kaoru after he's no longer affiliated with Cover in any way. That's what prompted Cover to pretend that he never existed to begin with.

>>32107575
It isn’t
It was the EN Holo choices, if their fan reacted that’s mean they don’t know what their fan want from them

>>32107626
Koyori has no sex appeal, she's a middle aged woman pretending to be a young girl. Her face irl is probably covered in wrinkles and she probably has a fat ass from sitting at her computer all day.

>>32107613
>I swear that last time I heard that he got into a scandal with Miko and that's why they fired his ass
That's was some "5ch said" bullshit
Anything that isn't on the official announcement are retarded narratives with 0 proof that newfags keep falling for..

I don't get the "EN and ID are side-branches" argument.
Like, from what I can see, HoloEN and HoloID get a bunch of promotion, merch, con appearance and 3D models like HoloJP. What's so "side-branch" about them?

>>32107697
Hot

>>32107613
No, the so called scandal with Miko was a rrat because his graduation timing was so close to Miko taking a long break so some schizos at 5ch just made it up like he got her pregnant or some shit.

>>32107707
It's how they cope for their middling numbers

>>32107707
Explain Umisea then

>>32107694
>they don’t know what their fan want from them
I feel like this is an apt description of holoEN

So Rust server reset today?