/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32073154
>The only "idols" are all the ones with BF
The absolute state of EN

Shes laying it on thick. Kronii betraying her must of pissed her off.
Maybe that's why kronii isn't at the upcoming twilight watchalong.

>>32073253
none of them have boyfriends you falseflagging nijicuck

>>32073253
Fuck it, if they keep that shit off stream im fine with it. What I don't know can't hurt me.

>>32073154
So it's Gura, Fauna, Mumei. The three musketeers of the Dartagnan of unicorns?

>>32073154
> come watch cute girl doing cute girl things in cute girl concert filled with cute girls
is she provoking me

>>32073377
Kiara?

>>32073154
>Climax story live
Ah yeah, it's that story on how I came on every single Holo.

>>32073253
I'd rather be cucked off-stream where no one can see than live for the entertainment of thousands who will take cruel delight at my pain.

>>32073377
>Fauna, Mumei.
lol he doesn't know

>>32073154
reminder that chumbuds tried to groom a 14 year girl

>>32073154
Clock, was it worth it?

>>32073413
Kiara has brought up guys too many times.

>>32073154
Second to last bastion

>>32073501
Yeah, me

>>32073253
>NijiHomo
Don't you have anal fissures to deal with?

>>32073578
> muh bastion
this is pissing me off

Shes forcing so hard this angle since tempus came around that reminds me of that Internet Overdose route lol

>>32073309
how did she betray her what?

>>32073670
NERF BASTION

The silent majority wants girl-centered content, even on R*ddit.

How can i find bastion minecraft?

>>32073306
Hahahaha chumfuck delusion is fucking golden

>>32073717
Homobros...our bastion...

>>32073377
>Gura
>Fauna
>Mumei
Do cucks really?

>>32073306
He doesn't know

>>32073306
Literally rent free. Sorry you dumped money on a girl with a bf lol.

>>32073717
>silent majority
chud cope, silent majority will like anything

>>32073578
You know you IRyS would if it means getting an new outfit

>>32073377
>Gura, Fauna, Mumei.
>J*y, Edd1 and M*rcel
Kek >>32073253 is so right

>>32073154
Gura if you happen to be egosurfing or whatever it's called and are lurking, I want you to know that I support your fight

>>32073896
outfits, songs, medical examination... you name it

>>32073439
When faced with cuckold or cuckold the cuck will always choose cuck. Take your meds and come back to HoloJP. There is always option three, anon.

>>32073717
silent majority is a meme, when you're losing you resort to the silent majority political buzzword
> everyone is calling me out, but the silent majority agrees with me

>>32073377
Mumei already collabed with men anon and I'm pretty sure you already know that.
>>32073455
It really doesn't matter.

>>32073154
Shark I'll forever Kneel

>>32073896
I'd suck a dick on behalf of IRyS if it meant a redesign.

IRyS is not a bastion. She's a gargoyle.
She'd be too horny and upset the boys and their fans so management blocks her collabs with males.

>>32073306
anon...

>>32074003
why are the redditors not shitting on that post, then?

>>32073697
Did you think it was a coincidence that the girls who are part of SNOT jumped on the ignore the boys group? Gura is the driving force and she would rather pretend like Tempus doesn't exist.
While Mumei and Fauna jumped on the follow Gura's lead.
Kronii was on that too until now. Kronii was also fucking with Gura right before during the festival longer than it was actually funny. To the point Gura even joked about siccing her fans on her after spend extended periods of time running back to the festival because Kronii killed her and took her stuff.
Obviously Kronii went rogue and Gura is mad.

>>32073717
>Meanwhile Mag in Cum jar has 5k updoots
Unicorns lost...

>>32073968
That's the whole point.
The SO keeps them in check. Thus the enemy (SO) of my enemy (Male collab) is my friend.

>>32073309
I don't blame her. The girls she can do stuff with keeps decreasing. She'll probably work extra hard on her JP reps from now on so she can hang out with the JP girls instead. The JP holos and fans already love her and see her as an honorary JP anyway.

>>32073439
As long as you don't akasupa, your cuckness will only be second tier

>>32074003
Isn't that how cheeto won the elections tho?

>>32073253
based bfs won't let them flirt with the boys on stream

>>32073377
>Mumei
I'm pretty lenient when it comes to what constitutes as a collab but you can't say Gartic Phone with Holostars wasn't one.

>>32074027
irystocrats would need to apologize to the homos fanbase by the end of the collab on her behalf

>>32074115
No issue with the boys on their own. I wish them the best but AWAY from the girls.

>>32073869
Lui-nee supremacy

>>32073377
>Fauna, Mumei.
Retard...

>>32074165
lol no they were loud as fuck

>>32074232
Cringe

>>32074291
What are you gonna about it?

it's pretty pathetic how thick she's laying it on
None of the JP girls have to do this and none are as drastically different in members streams

>>32074165
> cheeto
literally who

>>32073309
>>32074106
I didn't like the collab either but there is 100% no need to see shadows where there isn't. What the fuck

>>32073717
>The silent majority wants girl-centered content, even on R*ddit.
HAhahahaha no

>>32074232
based and same. After all, holostars are idols too.

>>32074238
Lui is hag enough to have a BF without anyone knowing

omg /vt/sisters I can't belen shark girl would write this in the Twitter

>>32074391
A post on the official rebbit can get 4k or 6k updoot pretty easily, 1k is not the silent majority.

>>32074391
> 1300 vs 1000
> reddit
Are we using reddit as our moral compass now or what?

>The last bastion of idol activities in HoloEN
Why are cuckbuds like this?

>>32074391
Just face it, you're a loud minority.

qrd on Gura? I never cared for her but it seems like shes the only safe one in EN currently.

>>32074391
we got too cocky chudbros....

>>32073306
Not sure if Gura still has one or maybe she's already married but she used to stream with her bf on Twitch. If you look it up there are still plenty of clips floating around on Youtube of them flirting with each other live on stream and it's pretty funny hearing Gura talking dirty with that cute voice of her. Mumei and Fauna both have bf confirmed by themselves with their own mouth. Not ratts. Even Mori has a bf.

>>32073306

>>32074535
>Even Mori has a bf.
She's too drunk to have one.

>>32074515
Just face it, you're a loud minority

A well hidden boyfriend is much better than even a single male collab

>>32074535
Mumei killed her boyfriend for the sake of her career

>>32074523
She's a sassy country loli. Watch her Bully streams.

>>32073306
Try me, there's plenty of discords that can raid this thread to prove you wrong incel

Gura's mere existence is only to piss off the people who's oshi's collabs with males.
And homofags who want only to see Hololive decline and burn

>>32073154
You don't understand how good it feels to have an oshi that gets it. I feel bad for the people that don't.

>>32073968
>That first name.
How to tell if someone's a newfag at a glance

>>32074523
>it seems like shes the only safe one in EN currently.

>>32074131
>The JP holos and fans already love her
Yes
>and see her as an honorary JP anyway.
Youre out of your mind, no considers her close to JP.

>>32074631
You sound like such a faggot holy shit.

>>32074489
>>32074534
cope harder, homoniggers
Gura will never acknowledge your forced gen

>>32074618
This. I don't care what a seiyuu is doing in real life.

>>32074621
> killed
Figuratively, right?
.... Right?

>>32074680
>teacuck cope

>>32074618
Shut up Fankek

>outdated doxposting as arguments
Chumbuds winning once again

>>32074618
Cuckbud cope

Nijiniggers seething lmao

>>32074391
Cucky leddit virtue signalers give the most updoots? Well I never...

>>32073154
Until it costs too much or takes too much time. Then she'll drop it like everything else

>they all have boyfriends because...they just do ok!!!

>this thread

Actual fucking schizophrenia.

>>32074759
seething over what? you're getting karmatic justice. you mocked and ridiculed us now you're getting fucked by your same ideals lol. GET FUCKED

>>32074618
Exactly this. Idgaf what she does off-stream, when she's online it's our quality time. If she wants to flirt with guys at least have the decency of doing it
off stream.

>>32073154
Homokeks seething

>>32074720
It's literally all they have lmao

>>32073377
>Fauna, Mumei
this is so fucking hilarious
ENfags are an embarrassment to the human race

I would tell you fags to join kfp, but we're full and you don't deserve her.

>>32073154
Male vtubers disgust me and I wish for every faggot who wants FxM collabs nothing but the most painful death, but can you retards stop comparing my oshi and her friends to something so soulless, inconsequential, abhorrent and cringe as CGDCT.

>>32073377
Mumei???

lol

>>32074759
Chumfuck deflection hahahahaha

>>32074621
Yeah, me

>>32073154
Based Gura I'm membering right now.

>>32073578
She sure sees her doctor a lot.

>>32074892
No. Hidamari Sketch is peak anime.

>>32074003
Why does the reality that the majority disagree with you make trannies seethe?

>>32075173
And sound engineer...
But as I said: off-stream is fair game.

>>32074759
It's condomates desperately shitting on Gura to make their whore look better

>>32073578
IRyS and Kronii should switch places in SNOT and CHaD.

>>32073717
What do you expect when starsjp is so fucking bold-facely boring.
Izuru is just an annoying shotabaiting fag with a scratchy voice.
Astel is menhera.
Rikka is bland, Miyabi is bland, Oga is bland.

I can't even tell you what each uproar members personalities are besides the white one being "deranged".
It just leads to boring /beg/ tier collabs where the girls do a majority of the work.
There's a reason starsjp are so horribly mogged by even indie males with more personalities than them

Tempus was a huge mistake. Their fans largely anti the girls and viciously spread doxx. Same problem as HoloCN.

>>32075320
Snoh and chat..?

>>32075362
>Their fans
what fans?

>>32075365
IRyS is Hope, not Death.

>>32075415
The schizos seething about CGDCT ITT

>>32075261
That would be true if IRyS was good for anything besides gfe-baiting, but she's not. Being cute and stupid is her entire schtick, sadly it seems that the stupidity wasn't an act since she's steadily tanking the only well-paying gig she'll ever have in her life.

It's not the collab per se.
Kiara and IRyS were interviewd by a catboi. Mumei was in a mixed collab.
No.
The issue is they acting flirty and making their fanbase uncomfortable and self conscious. Like Kronii did.

>>32073154
Gura should transfer to HoloJP and let these filthy whores go down with the HomoStarsEN

>>32075365
>>32075438
CTiD and SNOH

>Non-white insecure ESLs so mad they cant make Kronii laugh
NGMI. No wonder your countries are shit, you worry about stuffs that don't matter in the long run. Instead of doing real productive things you bitch about retarded shit like this. Terminally online shit heads that are still on this containment site don't do anything but go to the HoloPRO members chats and shit out "welcome to holocucks" garbage into the ether of their chats. Pretending dislikes and negative comments do shit but give more engagement. All delusional cope. I hope Gura finds some random dude and fucks him on livestream with a web cam on so you retards finally muster up the gall to commit suicide. "Id rather boys not be talked about so my mentally ill addled mind can be put at ease AND so others don't celebrate and revel in my schizophrenic meltdown" Make sure to livestream it. "I just want to watch cute girls doing cute things" is a really convenient excuse these days. A bunch of feminine men bitching about other feminine men, fucking hilarious. I hope you enjoy the simulacra you created for yourselves.

>>32073253
>>32073821
>>32073874
>>32074085
>>32073377
>>32073821
>>32073874
>>32073987
>>32073968
>>32074176
>>32073869
>>32074535
>>32074680
>>32074489
Are you fucking kidding me? It's like you just found out about the tenth letter of the alphabet. Do you newfags honestly think this board doesn't know about that person?

There are people here who know a lot more about this shit than you do. It's ridiculous that it's still even brought up as a rrat, but it's a result of the rules I guess that it can't be put to rest outright.
You must have wondered why no one seems to care when you bring that name up or you must have wondered why she never even bothered to delete that Ring Fit stream. The clip you discovered a few days ago from 2020 is of a stream that still exists. It wasn't even edited. It's still up on her channel and no one fucking cares. Why? Because everything is known about Gura. And there's no such thing as transatlantic cock, you massive retard faggots.

Gura has unicorn fans for a reason. And when I say "unicorn", I mean the actual original meaning of the term from 5ch, not your bastardized one that just means gachikoi.

>>32073154
What a fucking power move. She's not number 1 for nothing.

>>32073154
Gura should transfer to HoloJP and let these filthy bitches destroy themselves along with the HomoStarsEN

>>32075559
Too long. Didn't read.

>>32073717
>barely 1k votes after 20 hours
It’s unironically over for unicorns

>>32074386
>there is 100% no need to see shadows where there isn't
blatantly false

>>32075559
selamat pagi!

>>32074583
>She's too drunk to have one.
LOL

>>32075632
Constant Gura x Peko Collabs are fine with me.

>>32074106
Kronii didn't know Gura was streaming

>>32073717
Of fucking course it'd be the two who pumped and dumped the males they collabed with once they smelled a whiff of money

>>32075563
This is some terminal level of chumkek cope

>>32075656
>a place made up of cucks behaves like cucks
Shocking

>>32073154
chumbuds smug levels are off the charts, that's how karma stroke down rushiafags

>>32073309
wtf does a fauna/mumei twilight watchalong have to do with either kronii or gura?

>>32075632
JP already has one Shion that doesn't stream. They don't need another

>>32075876
Any day now

Gura understands her place and what Hololive was always meant to be, meanwhile most of the Holo EN whores are trying to change the culture of Hololive entirely by making it into Niji.

>>32074106
>To the point Gura even joked about siccing her fans on her
It appears like harmless fun, but the moment she was considering risking losing her trident you know that she was mad angry. She'll probably quit minecraft for good if she lost that thing

>>32074759
Nijifag here
I’ve been hoping for mixed gender hololive collabs for ages. The reception outside of this irrelevant shithole has been great. We won. You can thank us for pioneering regular male-female collabs in EN.
Oh if you wanna know what’s next, it’s popping up in open VC, so don’t be too surprised

>>32075825
I've been following her for 2 years since debut. I'm not scared of roommate shit and have seen everything.
If I legit thought she had someone or was lying to her fans, I would drop her and never look back.
You're a retard that has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't understand why such a relationship between them was literally impossible.

But by all means, continue to embarrass yourself.

>>32075506
Fuck no. No one wants the whore shark in Jp

>>32076062
Now try saying it without tears in your eyes.

>>32074892
I'll beat you to death with my bare hands you fat unwashed bastard. I'll never let some pathetic piece of shit like you dictate what I'm allowed to like.

>>32075632
I hope she make it

Why the fuck are people shitting and crying about this?

>>32076240
I can try celebrating harder
Vtubing is moving towards the natural state of society, in other words no artificial male-female separation. After a brief period of unicorn delusions, the industry is healing.

>>32073306

Eh, I don't blame her. Gura and Kiara seemed like the only two that had any interest in the actual cute/singing/fun part of being an idol. Kiara shedded that skin pretty quick.

As for collabs with the guys, it's good of her to turn them down for the time being. Any collabs TEMPUS does right now will be leeching since the numbers difference is staggering. If she's intimidated by men for person reasons it's also a safe bet to let them stew for a bit and see if any red flags show up. You never know what people are like off camera and Altare at the very least seems like the kinda guy who's done a little bit of grooming here and there.

>>32076084
Her senpais would love to welcome the cute shark. ENcucks can stay with Mori and Bae

>>32073154
I kneel

>>32073154
It's just promotion tweet for jp. Will she perform in that concert as well?

>>32073306
you are probably the dumbest fuck on this board if you believe that

At this point I'm fully convinced that you retards are INTENTIONALLY setting yourselves up for a grudgepost. I refuse to believe this whole LE LAST BASTION OF LE UNICORNS shit is not trolling.

>>32076538
Yes
As UMISEA

>>32073154
Gura knows da wae

>>32075506
There's already Ayame in Jp, we don't need another

>>32073361
My wife isn't cheating on me as long she never tells me

>>32076588
Gura was already outed as a whore long time ago. Cuckbuds just ignore that part.

>>32075559
Get meds amerilard + you're not white + you're a mutt

>>32073154
She's a pick me whore. There's no good reason she should be avoiding public interaction with her co-workers.

>>32076483
I haven't really been following TEMPUS at all, is Altare actually gay, or does he just sound gay?

>>32074252
>>32074847
Having a bf IRL is fine anons.

>>32076695
Straight as an arrow. Just sounds like a mega homo.

>>32076618
>release STARS EN
>if people want to collab with them they can if they don't they don't have to
>schizos somehow try to make this a tribal matter when it is just varied content
>in their desire to make this as tribal as possible schizos will begin to support UMISEA even though they have spent all their time shitting on UMISEA
>Yagoo smiles brightly having once again won

>>32076695
He's Korean.

>>32076695
He's Korean and straight

The only gay of the group is Magni and he swings both ways

>>32076430
>vtubing is turning from an escape from society back into society
Why are you faggots always doing this?

>>32073717
>blocking out the name
Your 'silent protest' of the male collab was incredibly obvious, superliminal96. Kill yourself unicorn.

>>32076588
As long as Gura resists the Homo menace she will be the champion of the unicorns

they are literally the major leagues of streaming, just because someone is there doesn't mean collabs with them are something both sides want or would benefit from
If you're running a sports team you don't bring a player in just because he'd be good friends with one of your players off the field.

>>32077043
Join the 41%, leddit troon

She knows we are here to watch cute girls with other cute girls. Not some cucky shit with men making them laugh uncontrollably while we watch

>Where are the prostitutes!?
>I'm here :3

>>32077113
Says the bitch defending the actual redditor. Or is that you, superliminal96? Delete your post already.

>>32077217
Cuckbuds...

>>32077042
Sorry that your hugbox is becoming less exclusive, anon.
What were those words again? Oh, right.
Cope and seethe!

Fucking morons can't do basic math to see that Tempus had a quarter the subs of council meaning only a mere quarter of actual hololive viewers are interested in males so yes that would make them the loud minority.

>>32076637
You think you’re married to your oshi, anon? ಠ_ಠ

>>32075559
Tempiss is a beg-tier failure that proved copying nijishitters was an abject mistake.
As if JPstars doing worse than indie males wasn't a big enough signifier.

>all these troons seething in this thread
I love my shark wife

>>32077291
>dead subs as a measure of popularity
nigger what are you doing, use CCV at least

>>32077233
I don't access leddit and I hate all its users. Go back, trannie

>>32076051
Gura understands hololive--yet it is Yagoo and Cover itself who are creating the boys and allowing the collabs. So "always meant to be"--to who exactly? Certainly not Yagoo. Not A-Chan. Maybe Sora? But how has being a perfect idol worked for Sora? Who is the biggest JP Holomem? It's Marine.

Vtubing doesn't have its roots in idol culture. Even hololive didn't start that way.

>>32077477
I'm talking about debut subs, they can't be dead if they literally just subbed

>>32077284
You didn’t answer the question, faggot.

>>32077414

>>32076667
Source: I saw it burned into my toast one morning. I'm not even a Gura fan; you guys just make shit up lmao I NEVER hear about Gura even mentioning males in like any capacity, ever.

>>32077558

>>32077643
>I NEVER hear about Gura even mentioning males in like any capacity
Not Gura but her RM? That's why chumbuds are so desperate to call her an idol when she's far from it

>>32075173
Yes, me.

>>32075559
You're right, but the schizo retards in this thread don't care. They're utterly convinced that they're in an actual relationship with the streamer, and that her interacting with a male is literally the same thing as her have raw unprotected sex with them.

>>32077704
Azki and Aki are both married but you don't see shitposters bringing it up and a potential long distance relationship is significantly less of a problem.

>>32073306

>>32073377
This. SNO is the Three Musketeers for Unicorn. Also, for those who said Mumei Collab with Homostar already, yes she did, other than Bae obviously dragging her in, at least she didn't act like an all out whore like Mori, Bae and Ollie ever did when it comes to Males Collab. Mumei is Sora's Tier regarding collabing with Males in the past. Collab with them and never again. If you watch her stream she has been pushing the thought on how she like "Bunch of cute girls does cute things together." just as much as Gura.

>>32077791
>and that her interacting with a male is literally the same thing as her have raw unprotected sex with them
Yes

>>32073154
AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE SHARK I FUCKING KNEEL

Gura is so fucking based

>>32077859
>SNO is the Three Musketeers for Unicorn

>>32073154
[No Delivery]*
*[3 Minute Guest Appearance 25:00 JST Fuckday, 2002]

>>32077999
2002 was a good year

>>32077999
S-She has a lot of projects, you haven't seen them yet!

>>32076779
cover knows what its doing better than some retards on /vt/

>>32077658
Why did they make her so fucking smug.

>>32076618
That's my girl. She streamed less but worked hard on other projects. Shark will ensure my salvation.

>>32073154
>Gura exists
>/vt/ shitposters seethe
that's my shark wife

>>32077834
Neither of them are popular. If shark was that then there would be suicides.

>>32078295
>worked hard on other projects

>>32076667
Now it's just blatant fake news. Fuck off loser, she hasn't done anything to you and never will

>>32073154
The concert is probably Gura x Shion based on the heart colors.

>>32077951
>no males
>migo
Retard...

>>32078431
God, i hate shipfags

>>32077834
yeah but Gura is American so she would be a slut

>>32074097
its disingenuously positive enough for them to not bother

>>32078482
:(

Cute girls doing cute things is what makes hololive great. Based Gura, and glad Mumei decided to double down on CGDCT despite any past mistakes, I don't hold it against her

>She collabed with males! And I saved her! and I shouldn't have. I took her into Hololive EN! What was I thinking? She'll never change. She'll never change! Ever since she was an indie, always the same! Couldn't keep her hands out of the boys' pants! But not our Kronii! Not our precious Kronii! Sucking them dry! And she gets to be an idol!? What a sick joke!

>>32078431
Gura and Ame have zero chemistry nowadays, Shion is a much better pairing.

>>32078442
Miko saw the error of her ways and has since been on the good side. I don't see a problem.

>>32077704
Post it, I dare you

>>32077413
>10k people watching reigs's pov yesterday
yeah big failure

>>32078531
>and glad Mumei decided to double down on CGDCT despite any past mistakes, I don't hold it against her
That's more on Rrat who probably guilt-tripped Mumei. She just seems like the type that likes to drag other girls down with her because she's too much of a coward to do things by herself.

>>32078639
It's all over the archives. Do your reps cuck

>>32078364
Filthy grayname doesn't know about her effort can shut the fuck up. Ya don't even watch stream why do you care?

>>32078540
>you are slutty Kronii and slutty Kronii with males is like a whore in a brothel

>>32078663
>a game where people want to watch the killer’s pov
Let’s see if it sticks past being invited by the brapper.

>>32076483
Altare sounds super sociopathic and I wouldn't be surprised if he had skeletons on his closet.

>>32078583
Surprised they keep bringing up stuff from 3 years ago as if it's going to surprise, shock or change anyones opinion. If the girls decide to go full CGDCT or go full idol despite their past, I'm fully on board

>>32075876
You do know that image is a troll/parody account that likes to take the piss on anime related things right?

>>32078731
The other girls work on projects and stream too. Gura is a lazy whore and nothing is changing that

>>32078663
Yes, failure, his average CCV is nowhere near that, he's literally leeching as well as getting the killer buff.
If he maintains that CCV I will unironically superchat him, join his members and credit you.

>>32078713
Nigga do you even know what is an idol?

>>32075362
The hell? /MANS/ is the most chill thread on this board, yesterday the whole board was having a meltdown while we were just chilling watching the stream and having fun.

>>32077042
They'll turn it to shit like all things woketards touch. We'll move on to a new groundbreaking hobby until the cycle repeats again.

>>32078540
fucking kek

>>32078431
The irony is Gura acts like a tomboy like Ame, but desires to be cutesy like Shion. It feels like she's chasing a dream she'll never achieve.

>>32078939
because all of its autists are shitting up other threads, why would they shit up their own?
retard

>>32075559
ESL bros like the stars though, yesterday we were watching Magni's fall guy stream and a lot of LATAMbros were in the chat and thread.

>>32078939
Homofags have been shitting up just about every other thread for well over the past two years

>>32078939
Lying

>>32077042
gatekeeping is a necessity for any hobby

>>32078880
>work like everyone else
>lazy whore
Literal braindead. My dog is smarter than you

Where did Tempus's audience come from? Serious question. /mans/ mantra is that they hate the girls because they're whores so they couldn't have been watching hololive for all these years seething quietly that there was no males. They hate nijifags too. They're all EOP's so they don't watch StarsJP.
Where did they come from? My guess is a reddit somewhere because of the way they post.

>>32077524
Because the color of their skin is yellow and all the niggers here have yellow fever

>>32079195
Reddit
@vt_kek
@bannedvtmemes
/v/
Kiwifarms
Discord

>>32079076
>work like everyone else
roru
rumao

>>32079195
The majority are former global posters who were chased out. Their mantra isn't hating the girls btw, you look at their opinions on collabs and the majority are "I don't care, if they want to let em"

>>32079071
>>32079070
>>32079039
Yeah, we were the ones doomposting and spamming the board with threads hating on the boys. Take your meds.

>>32079195
/MANS/ are obviously lying out of their prolapsed asses.
>Oh, it would be rude to deny a collab request!
This is the recent sentiment on the matter, when previous ones were as you listed.

>>32079195
reddit mostly some of them ARE starsJPfags though, you can tell because they seethe about mori rikka shit still.
I doubt kiwifarms like that anon said though because kiwifarms went to bat for nox so fucking hard.
Probably just redditors who watched male indies and hopped over.
There's at least one or two insane drawfagfujos though.

>>32079195
The majority of the opinions on this board come from an exceedingly vocal minority and bad actors parroting them to stir up shit.

>>32079309
could have guessed as much

>>32079195
Same anons who made /stars/ threads. People underestimate how well femanons hide their power level when lurking.

>>32079467
I've literally seen Tempus fags shitting on JP stars for having less numbers.

>>32079195
>/mans/ mantra is that they hate the girls because they're whores
t. has never been to /mans/

Ultimately all the homo collabers keep making her dream harder to achieve. I don’t even blame cover for not investing into HoloEn when half of them don’t even want it. Good thing she realizes this and will seek the JPs.

>>32079195
Antis and contrarians.

>>32073154
holy based
i'm JPchad but she has honorary JP spirit

>>32079309
Those twitter accounts that do nothing but post stolen shit from here are actual scum. I don't know why you fags don't bully them off the internet like /jaypee/ has done.

>>32079438
The vtuber thread on the farms has eaten up the Tempus stuff and they laugh at the people who want things to stay cgdct on an identical level to reddit

>>32079624
I went in there one time, saw multiple instances of it and a bunch of morbius memes and filtered it

>>32079323
The lazy whore is you. End of story

>>32079692
Good job on doubling down the fact you never fucking go there faggot
kys

>>32078663
> the most anticipated collab
He is the lowest of his branch. He barely got 2k earlier today and on minecraft didn't even scrape 4k.
Woketards and homobeggars don't watch, don't member, and don't supa.

>>32079764
Wow what an argument anon. Are all chumbuds underaged retards?

read between the lines friends

>>32079195
Been watching HoloEN since Myth debuted, just watched the boys and had fun with their streams. I don't hate the girls at all.
> /mans/ mantra is that they hate the girls because they're whores
Not really, no one was having a meltdown on there over the boys collabing with the girls. I bet there are some yumes but it's mostly a joke.

>>32079195
People who want holo EN dead, united under homo EN banner. They will suppport male x female collab, kill unicorns, shit on the women and left when holo EN became Niji EN 2.0

>>32079843
Nice try Ilunacuck

>>32079949

>>32080076
No one likes Iluna not even nijien lmao

>>32074823
>when she's online it's our quality time. If she wants to flirt with guys at least have the decency of doing it off stream.
when she flirts with her viewers she;s flirting with thousands of guys, not just you.

>>32079819
Why would anyone go back to that place? Its like a fucking reddit in there

>>32073306
Anon... I hate the cucks, ledditors, and twittards ruining CGDCTs too, but some of them already do

>>32080055
>they don't like the thing that I like and like something else..? They must HATE me and EVERYTHING I LOVE!
really subtle with the deep seeded issues there

>>32074387
Some traitor who staged a coup and conspired with the Russian Monkey.

>>32080055
Yeah it’s people wanting to get rid of the Idol image away them. They will keep seething at Gura because she sets a impossible task for them to replicate.

>>32074387
There was a literal nazi in office and you already forgot about him...?

>>32073154
Bless this little shark

>>32080301
Enna you fucking whale fuck off

>>32077042
theres hundreds of Vtuber females that do not collab with males, just not in hololive, expand your horizons

>>32079643
Great move
Her JP clips are still very popular even without lewd
https://youtu.be/X9yddAQBfXU

>>32079195
Weird, went to /mans/ a few days ago and none what you said happened. They just wanted to keep discussion about tempus.

>>32077043
Who?

>>32073697
because it puts more pressure on the remaining girls who havent collabed with tempus (yet)

Kiara was literally the only one in myth with an idol image
Gura seems to think being an idol is just pretending men don't exist + pretending to be the GF of any pedo who is willing to cough up 5 dollars a month
Sora was one of the first JP girls, if not the first, to acknowledge the EN Stars and no one's questioning her idol credentials or calling her a whore

>>32081343
Why does a blue child who sniffs glue and eats soggy pizza invoke this anger in you?

>>32081343
Sora is a whore.

>>32080213
That's what you get for mixing two kinds of audience that fucking hate each other. They will become angry, fight viciously, get bored of the drama, don't care anymore and left.

>>32081395
Gura is the only one who can validate the schizos existence.

>>32081395
because people are pretending this is about being an idol or that Gura's doing this because she loves idol culture so much

>>32081343
Why you need to push for collabs so badly is the only real mystery, homobeggar. Sora is nice to practically anyone, especially if they play MC (possibly because she’s just a bit special...)

>>32073578
Im surprised she has been holding out for this long, despite being the closest to the two biggest whores in en

>>32080301
>self proclaimed woman
>attack people just because of her feeling
>complain about the thing she could've avoided by not watching
>demand an answer for her unreasonable behaviour
Women's right is a mistake

>>32081618
The thing is that no one is pushing for collabs and the girls collabed anyway, the men strictly do not approach the Hololive girls, the girls did this out of their own volition, nothing happened, and you still threw a fit

>>32081570
It appears that she loves her work and the culture. The people trying to force her to change it are faggots

>>32081343
>Kiara is an idolfag
>Gura is not an idolfag
>Kiara says she's not an idol because she knows what being an idol entails
>Gura says she's an idol because she doesn't know what an actual idol entails

>>32073154
based

>>32074131
>honorary jp.
You wish.

>>32081744
People are 100% pushing for Gura + Homo collabs dumbass. It's all over the fucking place. No one needed to push with anyone else because they will gladly suck dick for views.

>>32081744
No one is surprised if Bae or Mori are involved in a homo collab. Kronii shouldn’t be a shock either, but my primary dilemma is with the suggestion that it’d be rude to deny a Holo request for a collab. No one would even know unless one of them on either side talked about it.

>>32076059
It’s scary to think all she had to say is “chumbuds attack” and kronii would’ve been reduced to atoms.

>>32081777
>It appears that she loves her work

>>32073154
Why can't the rest of EN be like this? What's wrong with them?

>>32074680
"2"

>>32075563
People deluded enough to believe an average western twitch streamer girl wants or even can be an idol deserves all the cuckoldry that will inevitably unfold upon them.

>>32082081
>What's wrong with them
Western wom*n

this thread and board are so sad, go outside for a change

>>32076716
So knowing an actual dude is stuffing his cock in your oshi when you can't see it is fine, but seeing a dude who isn't doing anything but talking during a stream is not? Those are some weird priorities. By your own logic though, if you don't watch the collabs then they don't exist. Problem solved!

>>32082235
>So knowing an actual dude is stuffing his cock in your oshi when you can't see it is fine
That's the cuckbud cope

>>32081830
>my definition of idol is the one that matters
Not to the fans, they know what inspires and motivates them to rally under their cause and share their dreams. You're completely in the wrong place if you want singing and dancing in the traditional idol definition, go watch Kpop idols or some shit.

>>32082207
Haha!
No

>>32073154
See folks? Isnt that simple? CGDCT, simple as that no brainer

>>32082323
Yagoo himself wants hololive to be seen as AKB48. And do you know what that group does?

>>32082081
They don't have professionalism, they don't even understand the goal of their job

>>32073154
this you

>>32073154
This is probably why she's taking Japanese learning more seriously now. She sees EN as a sinking ship in this regard.

>>32082488
I don't care what meme dream man "wants," I know what Hololive is, and why it's successful. If you think singing and dancing is the main, or even a significant part of their draw then you're retarded.

>>32081343
This
If you make a K-ON sequel about romance then it's no longer K-ON

>>32075173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sORVBL4kM

>>32082716
> If you think singing and dancing is the main, or even a significant part of their draw then you're retarded
>Usual streams: 15k CCV on average
>Idol concerts: 80k CCV on average

>>32082716
>Anon knows more about how Hololive works than its CEO

OH NO NO NO AGED LIKE MILK

>>32082856
Okay, and what about every other kind of special event like outfit reveals, tournaments, etc?

>>32082910
nice appeal to authority

>>32083137
I have more trust on the dude who leads the company than on some anonymous guy on an imageboard who claims to know how to lead a company without giving any credentials, sorry.

>>32082910
Everyone knows how Hololive works, including Yagoo, and it's not how you think it does

>>32083401
>Posting a picture of the girl who collabed with males all the time when she started out

>>32082993
Yes people love that, and do you know what idol groups do besides concerts? You're right, big events! Hololive is succesful because they're trying to copy idol culture and the "meme dream man" had that idea. Of course a cuckbud EOP wouln't know what idol culture is or what idols do.

>>32083330
brainlet

>>32073154
waving what

>>32080150
I respect you but this take is stupid. Flirting with the audience still lets everyone self insert. When she flirts with an actual boy you're seeing her flirt with someone else entirely. Not the nameless faceless conglomerate of viewers but someone who has a name, face and personality of their own.

>>32083567
I accept your concession.

>>32080161
I accept your concession

>>32075559
Is this a western faggots essay on why he's happy to pay for his oshis condoms and is mad he doesn't get to watch?

>>32083552
At least you're the first person to not be a 'NOO ITS ALL ABOUT SINGING AND DANCING' retard like everyone else when trying to define what an idol is.
So thanks, now we can finally move past that autism and acknowledge that a variety of qualities makes them idols.

>>32077414

>>32083508
Yes, and she started inclining once she stopped, along with the rest of Hololive. Any actual argument?

>>32083595
There's nothing to argue with someone who isn't making arguments.

>>32080301
Can someone translate? What is this troon talking about? Creepy? Unsettling? Unattainable standard? Artistic vision? Why is this ledditor so assblasted?

>>32080301
kek
Seething cumrag detected

>>32083862
miko inclined because she said nigger on stream, unironically

>>32083867
Your argument:
>I don't care what meme dream man "wants," I know what Hololive is, and why it's successful. If you think singing and dancing is the main, or even a significant part of their draw then you're retarded.
My argument:
>Anon knows more about how Hololive works than its CEO
Give credentials. Explain how you could lead the company better than the man who's currently leading it. Otherwise your argument has no ground to stand on.

>>32080216
Ah yes an unarmed "coup" and an already proven fake Russian conspiracy that never happened....

>>32083785
I've been an idolfag since 2005. I think I know enough about idols to btfo retards that came to know abut idols when holoEn debuted and think they have a say about it

>>32084120
Why are you actually trying to argue with a bad faith retard? He's probably thinking "lel, you write more than one sentence, that means i win".

>>32076667
>>32077217
>>32077246
>>32077704
>>32078713
>>32079949
>>32082282
So many fucking newfags here.
>>32075563

Go back. This hobby isn't for you.

>>32083973
A lot of actual women are harpies without the ability to play to expectancies, thus they seethe over a woman that can. 50%ers take up this cause because they’ll never be real women, and the real women won’t be desirable, thus the future tombstone knows they’ll not be able to pass under any circumstance.

>>32084208
Boredom

No one wants to watch the girl they like have more fun with another guy then they do with them unless they're a cuck. As an audience, you aren't more important than the other fans. No one ever gets to have one-on-one time with their oshi because it's a collective, even if someone outspends someone else.
As an idol, her fans have been there for her from day one and have given countless hours of their time and their money and their support to her, but as soon as some faggot homostar shows up, she's laughing at his jokes, flirting with him, and interacting with him more than she ever did with any of her fans.
It's inexcusable, and no one who calls themselves one of her diehard fans would ever be okay with it unless they're a literal cuckold or a surface-level normalfag who doesn't give a shit about her.

>>32084219
t. seething cuck

>>32084293
You're making sense but people still haven't grasped that chat is a collective so it won't work

>>32082644
Go back to twitter, retard.

>>32084120
abstract arguments don't use "credentials"
i'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't actually want to argue
>>32084173
sorry but i think i weaseled my way out at the last second, better luck next time oldfag

>>32081343
Sora doesn't "collab" with males. She's the face of Hololive so she needs to be there to do promotional events and represent the company. Her appearances are always entirely professional with her either being interviewed or hosting some event. She doesn't play games one-on-one with guys like she does with female collab partners like Tenjin Kotone.
There is one exception however, and thats three streams she did with Gatchiman V that happened two years ago at the Hololive 3D studio. Not many of her fans liked it, however Gatchiman V is a famous 43 year-old game commentator with a wife and children who became a Vtuber that strictly plays horror games. So it's not exactly the same as collabing with a holostar or a young, single male from another company. She never did it again after that either.

>>32073413
Kiara the "go watch the boys" , TrashTaste card game collab and Dokomi

>>32083508
>girl who collabed with males all the time when she started out
Yes, because hololive wasn’t big enough and there was pressure on the talents to try to succeed at any costs. She even addressed it once hololive got big. She hinted she wasn’t confortable doing them and that now that hololive was big she could pursuit being an idol up to her own idol standards, and then she stopped collabing with them. You can even see people in the chat when she explained it saying that they were fine with her collabing with anyone she wanted yet she didn’t like it, so she stopped.

>>32080301
really funny how passive-agressively they were trying to get her to say something so they could twist her words and attack her

>>32082681
You might be onto something anon.

>>32073578
The girl go out with mori to partys

>>32084055
That's what brought her to the attention of a larger audience, but if toady she's one of the giants of the industry is because she worked her ass off and built this paradise together with the other girls, in which even the boys can thrive. Current Hololive is pretty much her vision and you ain't gonna change that.

>>32077524
>Vtubing doesn't have its roots in idol culture.
You'd have to be a massive retard to not understand that Ai was an idol and did idol things like singing, dancing, and making her own music. She collabed with males because the industry was brand new but started doing it less and less as time went on. She never flirted with the guys she collabed with and wasn't a slut. She avoided talking about sex entirely.
Vtubing 100% has it's roots in idols and idol culture. You're just too retarded to have noticed.

>>32080301
wtf when was this

>>32084293
I get you and it 100% makes sense. All long-time fans are left with is an empty feeling like they wasted tons of hours and their own money to support someone that probably barely tolerates them.

>>32084315
There seems to be a lot of you insects here today.
>>32076074

>>32080308
Nazi? Lmao
You niggers live in a fantasy world.

>>32084856
>falling for the bait
Actual retard

>>32084483
Man I want to argue but you're not giving me anything to work with here. You say you don't care what the CEO wants and that you know why Hololive is succesful, and that singing and dancing ain't it. Yet those events are the ones that draw the biggest audiences and the most money, so that means you're wrong. So let me ask again, what makes you better qualified if what you said was wrong?

Despite what some people here often try and make others believe, Hololive has always been female talent oriented and has always tended to shy away from collabs with males. Yes, there are exceptions, especially when it came to early promotional streams in the first year and a half. But Hololive as a whole (with the exception of a couple members) hardly ever does collabs with males, even with holostars. Newfags probably don't even realize that there used to be a ban between hololive and holostars collabing and it wasn't lifted until late 2020.

Fubuki collabs with a holostar once every six to eight months or so. Matsuri and Towa play Apex with males. ID... well you can have ID.
The point is, the vast majority of Hololive talent do not collab with males and this shouldn't bother you. If it does, you need to find a different company to enjoy. Hololive has become one of the biggest parts of the vtubing industry by carving out its own niche. You are asking them to change their content to suit your own tastes, rather than the millions of fans that already enjoy it.

>>32074680
Wait 1 year and TEMPUS gonna have a off-collab on AME place to use the "studio"

It's not about talking to males. Can you please at least try to see this from the other perspective?
As a chat, no one is really more important to her than anyone else. Yeah, obviously superchats get a little bit more attention for a brief moment, but that's understandable because that's just polite.
But when they collab with males, you're basically forced to sit there and watch the girl you like interact more and have more fun with another guy than she ever will with you on an individual level. You have to watch her laugh at his jokes or even flirt with him all the while feeling like a third-wheel. So if you have any feelings for her at all, it just feels like you're being cucked.
I don't know if you're an unempathetic woman or just an idiot, but imagine you have a crush on someone and you both end up at a party where they're making out with someone else the whole time. That's essentially what it feels like.

>>32084981
Those against Hololive’s MO don’t want to find a different company. They are corrupters who are hell-bent on attacking things they think are “problematic”.

You would only understand if you were to ever seriously fall in love with one of them. It's painful to see them talk to and laugh with a man that's not you, since you will never be as close to her as them. She won't ever smile for you or laugh at your stupid jokes or spend time with you one-on-one. Only an unempathetic cunt wouldn't understand why gachikoi don't want to see them collab with males. The majority of Western women aren't capable of thinking about anyone's feelings other than their own, but the JP Holos understand and care about their fans. That's why the majority of them avoid it, especially the ones who've cultivated gachikoi.

It doesn't even have to do with idols; even as a Nijisanji viewer who always knew males were coming to the main branch it still hurt when the bubble got popped after 8 months or so of the branch only having women
a few girls, even the ones who already collabed with males outside the company regularly (selen) lost a lot of their superchat income once the males started becoming more prominent
There are a lot more "unicorns" than people think, even in the most unlikely of places, and most don't even know they're unicorns, they just feel that something's been lost and it sucks in general to see vtubers pay attention to people other than the audience and stings doubly when they start getting shipped

>>32084959
It's not even remotely possible to quantify all of the factors involved to objectively estimate what does and doesn't contribute to the overall success of the company, so if you're looking for a "fact-based" answer, you will never find it.

>>32079195
We rose from the grave, anon. The second coming is upon us. 2023 will be the year of brotubers.

>>32085082

I know at the core Hololive at least tries to resemble idol culture and idols parasite on the whole parasocial crush thing on purpose, but you made a really bad turn somewhere if you
really have a crush on a vtuber

>>32085082
Have you considered this mindset is just unhealthy? Not only talking about you having a romantic attatchment to your oshi. But also assuming that every man she interacts with is a romantic interest for her. It reads like an insecure jealous boyfriend wanting to lock up his girlfriend because he is threatened by every man.
Nonetheless, no one is forcing your oshi to interact with men.

>>32079195
I was a teamate. Wasnt jerking to girls nor uwuwing to cute shit. Cute shit gives me urges to strangle it. I hate gura, i hate shion, i hate ayame. Only Korone is good cute. I was in this rabbit hole for the laughs, but the funny moments were lacking
Tempus made me laugh way way more. So I switched

>>32076716
>Having a bf IRL is fine anons.
It's fine if you're not an idol and you're upfront about it to your overwhelmingly male audience that is there because they are lonely and seeking companionship from you.
It's fine if you're not lying via omission and taking advantage of and manipulating emotionally vulnerable people into giving you as much of their time, money, and support as possible under false pretenses.

Personally, I don't care if males and females collab. If the talents want to, by all means, go ahead. If they don't, it's no problem. Forcing collabs or begging for them is a scummy thing to do though, especially if the talents don't want to do it. Both sides, homobeggars and unicorns don't seem to realize that if talents want to collab, they will, and if they don't, they won't. What bothers me though is that every time there's a male/female collab you get a shitstorm of people just arguing for and against it, and shitposters changing sides to add more fuel. I get both sides, beggars want to see two people who they think would work well together on stream, or they want to boost the numbers of one of the parties; and unicorns don't want to fell cucked or like a third wheel, it feels terrible.
Here's the thing though, beggars are in the wrong because rarely if ever has a talent rallied their fans to pester someone to collab unless they were already close, ie same gen for instance. Unicorns are also in the wrong sometimes, because not all of the girls are fostering that kind of fanbase (not on purpose at least) and yet there they are, trying to be controlling and feeling betrayed by someone who was never trying to appeal to them in the first place, and they're so far gone that they see friendly banter between coworkers as flirting and how they're totally gonna have discord sex. The only thing I agree with them on is that collabs naturally relegate the audience to being a third wheel, and even then, that's not exclusive to male/female collabs, ANY collab will do that by its very nature.

>>32075632
gura and fauna are doing their jp reps (for real this time)

>>32085842
>But also assuming that every man she interacts with is a romantic interest for her.
How many times do we have to tell you it's not about that, tourist.

If you're a gachikoi, why would you want to watch her interact with a guy that isn't you, when you never get to be that close with her? Why would you want to see her laugh at his jokes or have a one-on-one conversation with her or watch her tease him? You'll never get to do any of that with her so watching another man get to is horribly painful if you actually love her.
Seriously. I don't understand the appeal of watching other guys have fun with the girl you love, when you yourself can't. It seems like you don't actually care about her at all.

>>32075632
kek i imagine a pekora laugh at the end of that

>>32074131
>see her as an honorary JP anyway
Only Anya gets this privilege. I'm glad Rust has cemented that fact. I hope more JP members reach out to her for collabs and vice versa

Meanwhile, every interaction Gura has had with a JP member has been painful to watch. Even worse than sitting through a Mori collab. All her JP reps goes out the door and she's like a deer in headlights; mumbling the same dumbass words anyone who's watched one episode of anime would pick up

Which is impressive since we all know Gura doesn't watch anime.

>>32086389
Some people just like to be seen as nothing anon.
They'd never understand

>>32077524
How many posts has it been since anyone pointed out that Yagoo very likely put out Stars to begin with as bait for investors to say he's growing the company and expanding its scope? Let me answer that, this entire fucking thread.

Cover pulled in at least 5-6mil in investment startup funding last I checked (year+ ago.. so it may be more now). They need shit to put on powerpoint decks to have at meetings and going "we're planning to become more competitive with other big vtuber companies (aka nijisanji) by expanding into the male market! (picture of holostars)." This would also explain why Yagoo is careful to keep them acknowledged as a real existing thing yet they are mysteriously just kind of pulled along/behind the mainline Hololive brand.

With StarsEN he can again make the pitch "foreign markets have a demand for males which has not been demonstrably totally-filled by other companies yet" and so on. This shit is elemental if you even attempt to look at it even a bit through Yagoo's eyes. He doesn't hate males obviously and such and likes he bros but he isn't going to destroy Hololive's image to prioritize shilling them either. Fubuki is a plant, she may well have stake in the company by now, of course she is gonna support them because she has positioned herself as the central pillar, which if you'd notice, is more like a survival/relevance move on her part to act as the benefactor overlord supersenior (which is really Sora) to hold her clout while dozens of other girls pull way way bigger numbers than her these days. By towing the company line she wants to nudge into merch deals and whatever other big clout/money things come along.

Meanwhile some of EN management and some of the girls absolutely do not get this and carry the twitter/reddit narrative of subverting the very structure that got Holo all its success (being cute girls, no bullshit attached).

>>32086461
????
While watching an anime girl to fap makes you somehow a grand person with aspirations? This is fucking hillarious, dude

>>32085082
You're just giving them more ammo to throw at you with this kind of analogy. The point is that boys don't belong in CGDCT, the argument is that simple. Any kind of parasocial feeling is just extra shit between you and your oshi.
>>32085569
I've been a TBFP fan since pretty much the beginning in 2012 and I think they have much more in common with how Hololive works now than what homobeggars want. Ironically enough, they started falling apart exactly when they brought in their GFs and wives.

>>32082644
I was about to say the greentext story is based because the dude's mother wanted to fuck him, but then she just gave him money for whores.
>check thread on archive
>Also why does half this thread want me to fuck my mom?
No matter how much worse 4chan gets with time, it seems I'll always be at home with people who share my mindset in here.

>>32086280
Or how about we just keep hololive doing CGDCT and let the males do their own thing with overlap

>>32075632
I can't see someone watching gura if they know japanese and are able to watch any of the JP girls instead.

>>32085454
It's not even a matter of unicorns as dumb twittards try to claim anon, it's just a matter of unique appeal. A sorority/fraternity vibe of just dudes/just chicks has a new appeal separate from other streamers, but if you get rid of that then the viewer just goes to other more experienced, more established streamers. They've got no pull. Sure, it has a side effect of creating and attracting unicorns, but they ignore the majority of people who just want something that actually allows itself to be itself.

>>32085454
>It doesn't even have to do with idols
>There are a lot more "unicorns" than people think, even in the most unlikely of places
You're correct. After all, it becomes extremely difficult not to develop some kind of bond with a person you watch for multiple hours every day for years, especially when they're the opposite sex.
picrel is nyanners subs once she started streaming with aethel.

>>32085262
And it's only because they're the top dog which sets the tone and they want the tone to be set by a company that has the same ideals as them.

>>32087174
Didn't you understand my point? Forcing talents to do something they don't want to do is a scummy thing to do. If there are talents who want to collab, they will. And if there are talents who prefer to stay in their CGDCT and Bros Being Bros lanes, they will. The only problem with that is that if someone's oshi happens to be the former, they will either have to accept it or drop her for someone else, and that's a problem because in that case they usually don't want someone else, they want their oshi.

>>32073154
Fine, I'll join her membership.

>>32073154
This just sounds desperate.

>>32073154
Gura knows her fans will probably hurt people if she collabs with males. She isn’t part of some opposition faction in holoEN. Mori is basically her best friend and she loves males.

>>32087467
I think this is definitely one of the bigger reasons they target Hololive.
Certain kinds of women always do this kind of thing because they need validation, which they seek in these kinds of circumstances by trying to change the culture of hobbies and spaces that don't necessarily reafirm their own beliefs or belief structure.

>>32076691
>>32087679
>"pickme girls" are women that make any amount of effort to appeal to men in a way that I am not capable or willing to do.

>>32087679
right, so desperate that she is the biggest vtuber in history, crushes fucking everyone in VOD views and crushes every single other EN vtuber in existence still 2 years on. "so desperate omg"

>>32075876
I am not smug, anon.
I have empathy for Kronies and am feeling terrible for them.
I despair over the potential future of Hololive EN.

>>32087248
I get that; it's the reason why I also don't really want the Holostars to collab with the girls because I really like the fratboy/locker room vibe they have.

ONE FUCKING TWEET MADE 100++ FAGGOTS SEETHE SO HARD HAHAHAHA

>one fucking tweet in the last 36 hours
>160 posters
>390 replies

>>32088999
>>32089129
CUNNY I KNEEL

>>32088386
You misunderstood completely.

>>32088999
Ok Gura is pretty based. I wish I could get almost 400 (You)'s with a single tweet.

>>32075559
Love you pizza papa

>>32075559
>>Non-white insecure ESLs
Those people love the homos.

>>32090592
I fucking can't with this image still, I kek every time