/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>the only one that is still moving is the one where she's a massive whore

This was still a waste of time and money though.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>51,520: Selen (Nijisanji)
>49,192: Toya (Nijisanji)
>44,597: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,978: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>33,737: Miko (Hololive)
>19,760: Haachama (Hololive)
>17,293: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,253: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,830: Botan (Hololive)
>16,648: Korone (Hololive)
>15,990: GatchmanV (Indie)
>15,020: Roboco (Hololive)
>14,185: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>13,228: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,958: Calli (Hololive)
>12,698: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,847: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,741: Selen (Nijisanji)
>11,337: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,088: Watame (Hololive)
>11,005: Regis (Holostars)
>10,736: NeruMero (Indie)
>10,329: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,124: Kaela (Hololive)
>10,079: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,021: Ema (VSPO)

Who the fuck keeps bumping the other thread? Knock it off and let it die already.

>>32062186
Got any timestamp for this? I don't remember this conversation happening during the interview.
Sounds like someone trying to start shit.

>>32062410
This desu. I almost never see any actual unicorns, but I see plenty of retards screaming about incels or idol culture.

>>32062543
>not single one with 100k
oof

>sub 400 thread
bros...

this kills the holokek

>>32062636
Niji OP debuff

/#/ is declining.

/news/ roundup for 30-08-2022
>>32050966
Recent clip numbers
>>32034911
>>32034951
>>32035178
>>32035222

>Miko got 100 fucking k slashed form her VOD
Susan's pajeet autism is ridiculous
YOU WATCHA MURTIPRA STURIMU? YOU NOTTO REAR VIEWER

>>32062658
>compares old number to current number
>REEEs if anyone brings up Gura's outfit numbers
I hate Nijinigs so much it's unreal

>>32062543
i think the only crime she did there was to release all of them at the same time. she should have released them in 1 day intervals.

Since the thread is dead do you guys wanna start the Hall of Fame timeloop again?

>>32062765
Stop.Fucking.Responding to this bait.
He did it with literally every outfit reveal because he's unhinged, but also because you keep giving him (you)s.

>>32062819
No

>>32062819
Kys

>>32062543
I don't really know what she was trying to do with this.

>>32062750
It isn't just that, the jumping between multiple streams is probably getting truncated down so that multiple viewing sessions get built into one bigger view block. Lower views, but higher watched time (the YT metric). Premium makes up the difference here.

>>32062819
Sure, Do we include dead ones?

>>32062469
August events

Hololive
31) Hololive Summer 2022 『Climax Story Live』+ HoloRUST Wipe War

Nijisanji
31) Fuwa last radio (fuwa ch)

Midget hours, Ars mogging everyone with a 6k stream of debuff game. Also how do we save Aster.

>>32062765
Let me compare it to current outfit numbers for council. Oh wait.

>>32062819
Every significant company has Hall of Famers. Most irrelevant companies do not

>>32062658
I don't really know why you bother, anon. All the regulars of the thread already know about CCVID and that this thread is a beacon for mentally ill shitposters that are a mix of nijifags and bored opportunists. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

>>32062944
You don't.

>>32062896
yeah why not.
I guess it's best to decide the criterion of getting into the VTuber hall of fame.
Are big numbers enough? Or does it needs to be something tangible or have to innovate something new in the industry?
We splitting JP and EN or taking the whole industry together?

Draw has been done!

This is who we are playing.
>/pcg/
>/vsj+/
>/warkop/

See you there this friday!

>>32063041
Not really much of a story going with warkop I guess.

Iluna is weird. It's two trap looking twinks, the manliest looking NijiEN male yet and 3 girls. I guess there's just not a big audience for trappy twinks.

>>32063041
>/pcg/ will try to break the 3view ceiling
>twitch numbers
What the fuck is /warkop/?

>>32063041
Fuck phase connect and their invading shills

>>32063121
Kyo is the most successful Iluna what are you talking about? Although i will admit that it's in spite of his model and not thanks to it.

>>32062689
hey man

>>32063123
isnt that the SEA general?

>>32063123
imagine # and lig had a baby but left it in Indonesia

>>32063203
Yes, he would be much more popular if he had a model like Luca or something. It's still a huge debuff.

https://youtu.be/YvdIqpvPtJo?t=28
Holo staff left Toko's favorite snack(O'zack) for her when she came over as a guest in Suisei's live, and even let her take it home when she couldn't eat it because of being too busy.
https://youtu.be/YvdIqpvPtJo?t=58
She even jokingly complains that Niji staff have never bought it for her.

>>32063203
>>32063280
Stop samefagging, no one cares about your flop vtuber with shit personality

>>32063294
They need to be ready when or ir she ever becomes a free agent

>>32063294
Toko generation 8

Since it's dead hour. Is Kronii really parasocial with Kronies or it's just their delusion?

>>32063411
probably in mengen, I've never membered to anyone so I wouldn't know.

>>32063344
Seeth

>>32063280
No he needs a model that looks like a hoodrat because he talks like a hoodrat

>>32063492
Now that you say that, predictions on how long NijiEN will go without having a black 2D model?

Wait, Summer Live is prerecorded, or it's just EN side?
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1564685935828410368?cxt=HHwWgIDR4bHk8LYrAAAA

>>32063703
there's like 30+ people there, it's most likely fully pre recorded.

>>32063294
>even let her take it home when she couldn't eat it
This sounds like a no brainer or is it something special about it?

>>32063294
graduation rush let's goooooo

>>32063703
I hope there is no ID

I don't understand how I can follow literally no niji on twitter but still get spammed with them.
What the fuck is a twitter topic, and why does Nijisanji in particular have one?

>>32063897
dont want ID to mog both ina and gura? i understand

>>32063939

>>32063900
Nijisanji does better on twitter that's why
>Why does Nijisanji do better on twitter
Because twitter's most active and most influential demographic is teenage girls

>>32063897
The whole point of bringing in guests is to draw hype, they would have advertised them. IDfags will get upset again.

>>32063854
Not exactly polite to ask to take home food that you receive as a guest in Japan. So the staff noticing she wanted it and explicitly giving permission kinda lets her do it guilt free.
Cultural difference I guess.

>>32063998
I guess that's it.

>>32063703
Mel and Aki are still present in the thumbnail even though they're currently contracting coof so it's a prerecorded live no brainer. They might insert some live MC segments though.

>>32063989
tell me about the indo "bros". why do they get so upset?

>>32064119
Inferiority complex, really. Though they don't really get upset in the "FUCK YOU PUT OUR GIRLS IN" way, instead they just seem to wallow in self pity. "Oh woe, of course they wouldn't put them there" and whatnot

>>32063703
ID...

>>32063900
Unless you follow the Niji Twitter topic, then having a topic doesn't directly affect you.
What affects you is their Twitter numbers are retardedly high so Twitter ends up pushing their tweets everywhere, even in topics that you do follow that are somewhat related to vtubers in general.

Why is it so high? Nip normies and women are massive Twitter engagers.

>>32063973
I don't understand this image

>>32064491
Mumei is a bitch who shot ID girls for no reasons

>>32063703
i wanna see Ina do another awkward robot dance like what she did on kiara's live.

>>32063703
At least parts of it, but couldn't tell you what beyond EN yet.
>>32064040
They're not going to remake the thumbnail just because they got sick recently, anon.

Technically today's gold should go to Gura for having the best VOD retention.

>>32064392
Isn't moona possibly in japan along with the other ID1s?

>>32063294
future poach

>>32064532
>shot ID girls for no reasons
>shot ID girls
>no reasons
>ID girls
Anon...

>>32064532
Poor English is a crime.

>>32064491
SOVL game. Spot your oshi

>>32063703
All prerecorded event with some live mixed in

>>32063579
there will never be a japanese designed vtuber model with darker skin than sana/mao/hayama/scarle

Looking at that "realcorptv" i think the posts a couple threads ago are the first time that shit was ever mentioned on this board unless im not diving hard enough in the archives.

>>32064699
well unless they can make the design good enough to look at like Niggamiya from FGO then yeah it won't happen

>>32064699
IRyS redesign will be darker

>>32064567
You say awkward, but I say authentic. No way someone paid someone to dance like that, that's hikki dancing 100%

>>32064913
not if she can help it

>>32064913
I seriuosly hope that Redjew will be blacklisted from industry after IRyS disaster

>>32064587
Sure, but they would've given a notice beforehand informing that those two wouldn't be able to participate in the live otherwise, which they haven't done yet.

>>32064913
Irys (forma del gatto goblina)

>>32064699
Kuroboshi himself has an avatar that's literally charcoal-skinned Ina.

Here is the (now fixed) results for September 2021

>date) nameEn_1 (branch_1) - peak_1 - title_1
>1) Lamy (Hololive) - 32689 - 【80万人目指して】アポなし逆凸、8人耐久!!
>2) Lamy (Hololive) - 72673 - 【#雪花ラミィ新衣装】とにかく可愛いので覚悟してね…
>3) Ayame (Hololive) - 46445 - 【#百鬼あやめ3周年】皆々様のおかげで3周年!!ちょこっと凸待ちも…?重大告知もアリ!!!
>4) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43199 - 【NIJISANJI SHOW DOWN】にじクイステージ
>5) Aqua (Hololive) - 65096 - 【#あくシオ3Dライブ】おうたのはっぴょうかい!
>6) Marine (Hololive) - 42672 - 【電流!嘘発見器】#かなマリどつきあい
>7) Sora (Hololive) - 46483 - 【3D配信】4周年記念ミニライブ
>8) Melissa (Nijisanji) - 82226 - 【#メリッサ3D】メリッサの3Dお披露目
>9) Toya (Nijisanji) - 26764 - かかってこい by剣持刀也
>10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42599 - 【 シージ 】 ロイヤルストレートフラッシュ
>11) Nene (Hololive) - 52989 - 【 #桃鈴ねね新衣装 】SUPER KAWAII NENE
>12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 68562 - 【 ポケユナ 】 さァて 始めるか
>13) Amelia (Hololive) - 70693 - 【1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY】A Whole Year of...!?!? #Mythiversary
>14) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 47547 - 【#にじさんじポカチェ部】負け犬は誰だ?-Who is the Loser?-
>15) Gura (Hololive) - 43915 - 【SUPER MARIO PARTY】OCEAN PARTY! パーティータイム ! #UMISEA
>16) Gura (Hololive) - 41710 - [UNARCHIVED] jazzy singing shark
>17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46958 - 【Minecraft】初めてのEN鯖をキアラちゃんに案内してもらうぺこ!!First visit to EN server
>18) Pekora (Hololive) - 31839 - 【GTAV】Let's go GTA!! 今日から始めるロスサントス生活!!!!!ぺこ!
>19) Pekora (Hololive) - 32399 - 【GTAV】Let's go GTA!! 今日も大暴れロスサントス生活!!!!!ぺこ!
>20) Hololive (Hololive) - 94794 - 重大告知をするのは私です!!
>21) Pekora (Hololive) - 36354 - 【PekoMoon】日本語と英語で爆弾解除に挑む!!!!!!!ぺこ!
>22) Matsukai Mao (Nijisanji) - 57537 - 【#まちゅかい3D】いつだって自分が最推しだ!!
>23) Ren Kisaragi (VSPO) - 55666 - ぶいすぽっ!秋の抜き打ちテスト~抜け出せ学力ブロンズ帯~ #ぶいすぽ学力テスト
>24) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85672 - レバガチャダイパン杯 にじさんじ秋のスマブラ大運動会2021
>25) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 49838 - 【雑】告知醤油
>26) Noel (Hololive) - 67629 - 【#白銀ノエル2周年記念live】3Dライブ!いつもありがとう全力でアイドルしまっする(重大告知あり...?!)
>27) Pekora (Hololive) - 56004 - 【カメラ/開封】ポケモンカードたくさん開封するぞ!!!!!!!ぺこ!
>28) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 72008 - 【Zatsu】30万人記念「重大発表」配信
>29) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 47210 - 【Minecraft】ちひろ城を、NsNにお披露目
>30) Fubuki (Hololive) - 41095 - 狐から皆へ重大なお知らせがあるらしい

I hope Nijisanji provides a better horse race this year, last September was 18 - 11 - 1

How's the rust war numbers compared to summer festival?

>>32064699
>japanese designed vtuber model with darker skin th-
You better specify "fully human" because Debiru surely is dark

>>32065011
Ghostly white Bae and Mori whenever they're on Irys's channel will never not be funny

>>32064933
i know, but people might get a different perception if i say otherwise. her dance is cute ina way.

>>32065230
Peaks were about even, but with fewer participants meaning fewer overlaps

>>32065280
>skin
That's fur retard

Nina doing a Obsydia costume watchalong is just shameless leeching.
So glad she's getting shit numbers for this.

>>32064699
Hayama isn't even dark skinned anymore. She's turning into Michael Jackson.

>>32065395
ah the classic twitch react streamer with their free content, now I know why I rarely visited twitch

>>32062889
Display her voice acting chops I assume. I wonder if they would have done better in English. I commend her for doing creative stuff like this, but her execution is never the greatest.

>>32064699
Solution:
Nobody cares if its a dark skinned monstergirl

>>32065098

>>32064913
I think tallydwarf is gonna have an aneurism.

>>32065180
thanks

Hayama has inclined ever since they did a Michael Jackson on her. Brown skin is a legit debuff.

>>32065286
You'd think she could rig up some filter that only applies to her Live2d. I guess it's not the sort of thing you can ask anyone for help with

>>32065848

>>32065395
Seems pretty pointless, like watching sports reruns or something.

>>32065893 (me)
Actually, I know you can do this, because both Ame and Gura have done something in the same vein

>>32065909
>>32065522
Imagine sitting through Selen's 30 minute stallfest

>>32065180
>13) Amelia (Hololive) - 70693 - 【1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY】A Whole Year of...!?!? #Mythiversary
Curious to know what Myth will cook for this year's anniversary.
It's in two weeks, did any of them alluded to anything?

>Check Summer Fes views.
>Just like last year, Gura has more total views despite Pekora streaming for longer and having a higher ccv.
Sus.

>>32066089
>did any of them alluded to anything?
They will never hype up shit beforehand

>>32066096
It is common knowledge that Gura has a very good VOD game despite it not showing in her live audience numbers.
Why "sus"?

>>32066096
Gura's has way, way more likes too. But c'mon, this timeloop is pointless, we can't figure this shit out in any way that will satisfy anyone

>>32065968
>Nijishills come to brag about streaming hours
>Easily 10-20+ of it per month is this lazy bullshit that no one asked for or wanted, and is shipped into the void to sub 1,000 viewers
>Nina's stream is already entering it's 5th hour

>>32066089
Ina hinted at being too busy before anniversary to even stream so idk, it might be UMISEA stuff tho.

>>32066096
Guras audience covers like 6 different time zones. A lot of them don't have the time to catch things live and have to settle for VODs. As oppose to Pekora which are mostly in one time zone.

>>32066089
Not a hint from the shark but she never leaks anything early, she's pathologically afraid of making promises she isn't sure she can keep.

>>32066096
this typing pattern smells like Flip community or Indo community type of bait, who are you ?

Gura vs Pekora loop beginning again. Its all so tiresome

>>32066295
you should have started by noting the fact that these comparisons restarted out of nowhere after niji lost the month

Goorba...

>>32066375
The comparison have been happening all the month whenever Hololive wins anon

>>32066289
In an alternate timeline, Gura would commission a Minecraft PV like the Usaken one for her Atlantis arc.
At least she hasn't forgotten about it due to Fauna and Kaela constantly mentioning it.

>>32066432
But anon, Hololive always wins.

>>32066406
I'm surprised goomba can still get new subscribers i thought she had basically every male Vtuber fan in her channel.

>>32066459
They WILL make her finish it

>>32066144
>>32066162
>>32066295
>>32066375
Sorry, its just something I noticed last year by happens stance and now again. I don't really follow numbers much. Sorry to bother.

>>32062658
How does NijiEN get 45k tourists for a costume reveal? None of them can even break 6k on a normal stream

Feels like Hololive won the battle but lost the war. HoloJP is scattered, HoloEN is a fucking trash fire, and HoloID growth is slowing down. 2023 is going to be a dark year

>>32066521
S'ok buddy, it's just a very tired topic in this thread so people will think you're baiting with it. Don't take it personal.

>>32066533
You know Ollie got 53k for her first costume and she barely had more than 2k viewers regularly right?
NijiEN is tourist central now if you haven't noticed their event numbers in the past 6 months.

>>32066534
Nijisanji's moral and ethical victories are building, they're gathering karmic power for a huge symbolic victory

I know this doesn't mean much because it often doesn't reflect on a chuuba's ccv and whatnot, but every single Kronii clip I've seen in the past 24+ hours has like 50k+ views. There are SO MANY clips holy shit.
https://youtu.be/GEnUJSND_7Q
https://youtu.be/Smx8H_Ipmcs
https://youtu.be/VYhvbVDtkKI
https://youtu.be/n101-52fYIw
https://youtu.be/g3y5ely17wc
https://youtu.be/_walj2vkvHw

>>32066475
Anon...

So... 15-16 today?

>>32066612
And the bitch DIDN'T EVEN STREAM for any of these clips

>>32066587
Thats the Holobox though. Niji doesn't have a box, Kuzuha viewers aren't watching an EN costume reveal.

>>32066694
Work smarter, not harder

>>32066694
I've said it before, Kronii has star potential but just doesn't have the psychological makeup to fulfill it. Maybe moving out will help.

>>32066701
NijiEN has their own tourist box that is independent from NijiJP.
How do you think they can get 50k karaokes, but none of it funnels to NijiJP streams.

>>32066738
I did help. She is streaming more that she used to and sounds a bit more happy in general

>>32066406
i swear koyori was at 696 after the rust thing ended

>>32066784
Me? My assumption was bots but I was wondering if you had a better explanation.

>>32066784
>How do you think they can get 50k karaokes, but none of it funnels to NijiJP streams.
Niji big events rarely funnel to other streams. They just disappear into the ether until another big event happens.

>>32066789
>streaming more that she used to
Is she tho?
Feels like she's doing her usual 2 break days a week + weekly SC reading and a few extra break days when her schedule ends and she doesn't put up a new one in time.

>>32066784
>tourist
>funnel

>>32066917
It's like one extra day every other week.

>>32066521
Yeah, it's common knowledge that ccvid affects Gura strongly. Multiply her ccv by three for a rough guess about her true numbers.

>>32066865
There is usually some funnel to other NijiENs when a big NijiEN stream ends, the costumes recently just end without anyone streaming so they funnel into Holo streams instead.

>>32066861
>bots
Does this look like a botted stream?
https://vrabi.net/video/klCUa2n3MWs

>>32066289
>>32066459
>Gura would commission
In a much better alternative timeline Gura would have inherited the shitposting spirit of her previous life and would like make something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRpsol6VcTc
One minute and thirty seconds of footage straight from her POV on Minecraft and a shitpost over it.

Time to create? Knowing Haachama, she did this in 37 minutes.
>10 minutes to create the video
>25 minutes to render and export it because of her underspec'd PC
>2 minutes to laugh at her own wits for putting a completely different title for the Englsh locatization, purposedly mispelling "birch"

>>32065180
roboco won the 9th anon

>>32067060
Gura wants to do shitposts but she's held back by management permission stuff. She gets the spark, but by the time she asks for permission and waits for a reply the moment is gone.
She should probably do what Haachama does and just ignore her mannies.

>>32067118
>Ignore managers
What consequences has Haachama had over this?

>>32066533
Selen can get 7k solo now. She has inclined quite a bit.

>>32064699
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWXQdL4b4kpF75GOV9TG5NA

>>32067118
Gura not have a shitpost shorts series like Watame is just a baffling missed opportunity.
She even has a 3D model now so there's not much holding her back on the technical side.

>>32067195
Plenty, but she just ignores them

>>32067217
no she cant

NijiEN is inclining, gotta change the formula if you don't want to lose market holoEN bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0INhRjJ7Oo
Is this the most viewed vtuber clip?
Can you find something bigger?

he has returned, don't bite the baits

>>32067217
We'll have to see next moth if she keeps her tourists, which i doubt, besides that 7k is a horror game buff anon, it's like saying Fauna can get 10k now when seeing her play spooky house shit.

>>32067278
holoEN and nijiEN aren't even competing in the same market. note that the only nijiENiggers that get decent numbers are the ones that pander to china.

>>32064699
Just remember, you brought this upon yourself https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgpERkM1exNBdw3WNrysKw

>>32067260
Cope: https://vrabi.net/video/wQUp94L-G1Y
https://vrabi.net/video/MDtVPOwsm9o

>>32067337
Didn't she get only 11k after her costume reveal?

>>32067278
>change the formula
How Selen? We need to know your secret! Do we add more to their diet? It seems to be working for Calli, it must be it! Architect was right all along!

>>32067376
>two raids
seems like you are one coping

>>32067278
if Hololive want's to become Nijisanji, why wouldn't I just watch the original? this is what will happen, the people that like the male female interactions in Hololive will learn through yt recommends that Niji does that all the time and move over

>>32067118
>She should probably do what Haachama does and just ignore her mannies.
Haachama asks for permission from her personal manager
>>32067195
>What consequences has Haachama had over this?
None because she gets permission beforehand.

Haachama still seems to operate in the "pre Kanata hanging" model of trust with her personal manager and the upper manager.
She informs about her general plans and gets an "OK go" for the most part and follows through with it.
As she stays within the absolute max level of what's still acceptable she has their trust for the most part.

I don't know if EN management EVER operated in this model of trust but I'll assume they don't and the girls have to navigate the same "post Kanata hanging" imposed red tape
>write a short report detailing what will be done, what resources are needed and whether permissions are required
>wait for it to bubble up until approval and back down

>>32067352
Selen's audience is premium euro/american though

>>32067376
>Can't count
>2 raids
>horrible retention

>>32067422
11k with all 3 obsydia members present.

>>32066273
YouTube’s CCV isn’t accurate. The difference isn’t due to people watching the VOD later.
In the short term the vast majority of views come from the live, besides, Gura’s was always higher just like last year.
If it was VOD only viewers it would have been much smaller to start and slowly overtake Pekora’s over the next week or so as people find time to watch it.
The reality is that the majority of people that missed it will just watch clip highlights.

>>32067443
No raid for Paranormal HK. She can ALMOST get 7k completely alone if you want to be autistic about it.

>>32067278
i believe Selen is the EN Pekora

>>32066406
Garble Goorble...

>>32067529
I thought it was a solo stream. That's grim.

>>32067337
>it's like saying Fauna can get 10k now when seeing her play spooky house shit.
fauna can get 10k now though. she gets it on just about everything aside from SC readings.

>>32067583

>>32067565
>The reality is that the majority of people that missed it will just watch clip highlights
Especially because the buzz wasn't particularly good, anyone waking up and checking in with /hlgg/ or their Discord or whatever would have been told it wasn't really worth a full VOD rep

>>32064667
i don't see EN girls

>>32067577
It was a funnel from Luca tho, then again I'll concede that one if only because the only reason NijiEN is successful is thanks to the chink boys.

>>32067583

got holo summer ad for tomorrow 3d live

>>32067117
True, I'll recheck if any other numbers were missed

>>32067583
She's the EN Okayu and Polka combined.

>>32068033
That's quite a heavy amount of power anon!

Where are the numbers!?

Feels bad that this timeslot is fucking barren when Ina and Fauna both take the day off, but at the same time, it's not a good enough slot to support Ina, Fauna and a future EN3 at the same time.
Basically all or nothing.

>>32067644
Not quite but pretty close. She floats in the 7-9k on a some not-quite-buff content like episode 2 of a game (e.g. Stray), Episode #whatever of black flag or Skyrim, or debuffed collabs. But still, even slightly buffed content is practically guaranteed five figures.
If you look at Hololyzer it paints a picture of Fauna as absolutely, with certainty, a top-tier EN. Probably top 3.

Sir this is a Tempus thread and all their schedules are posted

>>32066789
>I've said it before, Kronii has star potential but just doesn't have the psychological makeup to fulfill it.
Imagine how strong a non-menhera Kronii would be

>>32068146
>future EN3
EN3 isn't happening. Cover clearly doesn't give a shit about the EN branch any more. You saw how they sidelined Gura and Ina for Umisea 2.

>literally no streams today

>>32068166
I mean, you joke about it, but /#/ is basically /mans/ lite with all the cocksucking they do when any of them break 5k

>>32068146
Support as 10k streamers maybe not but if en3 somehow attracts new blood then it can probably be fine

>>32068191
Her depression is part of her appeal.

>>32067314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3oKqA-M0_Y
The first one that came to my mind

>>32068191
Stop. I've done this thought experiment too many times that it just hurts.
It's not even menhera anymore, her schedules just suck ass.

>>32068104
Weird, the only waiting room up before the Hololive summer final is one Calli Rust

>>32068245
I cant handle the gays and womenposting and only watch vesper... Please dont ostracize me back to Mans

>>32068232
I gotta ask, sincerely, why do you constantly post this? You know it isn't true, and no one even bites because it's so ridiculous. You're very consistent so it makes me think you must be a regular who just has this as your particular psychological quirk.

>fuwa last radio 7k waiting with 2 minutes left
Nijibros, you said this event was going to rival the swimsuit live?

>>32068351
Anon it's a schizo from numbers he isn't going to answer you sincerely.

>>32067644
First year Myth ruined all future perceptions of HoloEN. No other group, not even chink-infused Luxiem, ever had those kinds of numbers. It's far more common to slowly build up and grow that way. Everything will always look like a decline for HoloEN because they will probably never reach those heights again.

>>32068351
It's going to be the same reason as everything else posted on this board: unmedicated mental illness

>>32068351
>You know it isn't true
What makes you think it isn't true? Cover has never said a word about even having the intention to release another EN gen. It's been over a year since the Council debuts too. You'd think we would have heard something by now, but no. Silence.

Fuwa 26k waiting

I just destoryed my dick with selen lewds of last thread and went looking for more.
I feel dirty and i think i gave the selene posters too much power over me

>>32065180
Kuzuha is almost half the gold total for Nijisanji. Not sure he will do as well this September with Apex in a slump season.

>>32068570
Then stop and prepare the swimsuit lewds for the next day.

>>32068556
who?

>>32068690
fuwa gold today.

>>32068721
>>32068556
he needs at least 100k

>>32068690
I know but now i fucking see this haha posters and get an erection

>>32068556
I do wonder why the last one of these is so much more popular (beyond what just having more guests would suggest)
You'd think if people were that into the format they'd watch the 29 episodes in the middle too, but no, it's just the first and last one

>>32068759
Oh you are getting an erection from the fatgoon?

>>32068803
Aaaahhhh

>>32068743
>main holo channel
>100k
thanks for the laugh

>37k waiting

Marine is 10k from passing Mori

>>32066534
>>32066607
So true Nijisis!

>82k waiting
bros....

>>32068832
you should prepare more copium

>>32068762
It's the sendoff for the summer season. Nips are ruled by tradition and Nijisanji knows how to exploit this very well, with seasonal formulaic streams like this one, Koshien, NijiNoon and others.

>>32068762
It's the same with any serealized series anon,
you can bet your balls that Subaru's ending of P4 will have more ccv than the middle parts because of the Ending and FOMO of it.

50k

Ez nijigold

50k

>5K waiting room dip recovered in under a minute
Literally playing by different rules

this could be a 100k stream

> not even a dent
I guess mixed collabs will be the new meta?

>>32069121
who dis?

>To think today could have been a horse race with a nail biting 15-15, with Fuwa vs. Holo summer to decide the month
Would be a kino ending

Fuwabulls are too strong

>>32069165
Kronii

>>32069121
If anything, Kronii should be getting more subs with how manh clips she's getting between usaken fes and the DbD collab yesterday.
The malding unicorns were never going to unsub anyways.

60k before any guests jesas

holokek status?

Damn, to think that Niji could have had this month if Salome didn't slip.

>>32069173
You should just be glad we're not in a situation where it matters who won the 4th

I love when nijikeks prepare themselves for grudgeposting

>>32069239
Winning the month and saving up to jerk off during the magnificent 3d live that it is going to win the day anyway

>>32069230
If it's anything like his final stream last year, its going to be short with everyone showing up and just saying goodbye or something.

>>32069121
Western ""unicorns"" are shameful individuals who will keep watching out of cope she doesnt collab that often.

>Already stalling
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

What number would this need to get to be in unslippable range?

how did they have all these huge events this month and still lost

>>32069333
>holo main channel
>shark debuff
it'll be lucky to hit 50k

>>32069377
over 100k

>>32068298
ok besides that anything?

Nope, it's just worming

>>32069381
Not just that, they got one free day from a YouTube bug and another from hololive having a 140k stream on NND where it wasn't counted

>>32069377
unslippable? like 140k

So... Holobros have you guys wash your knee?

Well, looks like Hololive took August after two grueling months of ties. Their domination in the daily gold dally is not to be ignored
I'm curious to see how competitive August will be next year. No doubt Fuwa's morning show will incline, as will Koshien. It may get to the point that unless Holo inclines the same amount, they'll need to hinge on their events to eke out an August victory, because I could see the Fuwa show inclining to 40k average next year with 100k+ for the final show

>>32069423
>>32069495
delusional

This one's a wild ride mr. bones

>>32069562
yes, you are delusional, we know anon

>>32069488
>140k stream on NND
NND counts cumulative views, not concurrent

64k for the niji guy? Better than I thought, glad it didn't come down to this final day (and the shitshow on the 4th).

Pfft

>>32069560
Last month wasn't really a tie though, let's be honest.

>>32069381
Because Hololive also had a bunch of big events? The fact that every Hololive birthday and anniversary is a very special thing is one of their biggest strengths.

>>32069618
Yes, and by the end of that stream the counter was at 250K unique viewers
Eugene tweeted they had 140K viewers and she'd presumably know

>>32069560
As impressive as Niji's growth has been for events this August, event ceilings don't grow exponentially forever.
Hololive 3D lives peaked at 130k last year, and this year, the new peak is 147k (or ~150k if you count 3D debuts).

>>32069560
I'm more curious to know how low will Nijisanji gold "advantage" will get before that. I wonder if Hololive can get a 200 golds advantage in the 300 or so days before July 2023

>>32069560
Vtuber numbers have been getting more and more inflated. I wouldn't be surprised if by this time next year 40k isn't even enough for top 3 most days.

>>32069711
Cope Koshien will pass Cocos grad next year keep clutching onto that gravestone though

>>32069790
I wish it does, that would signal a growth so big for the vtuber market 250k 3D lives would be met with the same mockery this year's Aqua sub 100k was.

>>32069790
Honestly, the next major graduation from either corpo (like, think Pekora or Kuzuha major) will be the next stream that sets the record for 1-2 years.

>>32069618
retard, A-chan herself said there were 140k people watching

https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1556971764626132992

>>32069901
>believing corporate speak
ngmi

>64k motherfuckers waking up at 6:30 for this
>only a fraction of these tourist will tune into nightly normal streams
Japan is just a completely different audience size compared to NA and the rest of the world for vtubers.
Actually feels paradoxical to call these people tourists when they're willing to wake up so early for a 30 min stream.

>>32069476
>>32069563
>>32069693
abayo wormysanji

>>32069928
now this is cope

>>32069879
Mito graduation eminent. Kuzuha still has to stay to collect paychecks so he can raise his and rindou's child.

Well anons, see you later by the beach to watch some girls in bikinis dancing and singing

>>32069979
they're called tourists because they don't show up for normal streams. there's nothing paradoxical about that.

>>32069709
>>32069901
She's just going off of the NND counter, not knowing it's not CCV.
It's not immediately obvious it's not CCV until you realize the number never drops.

>>32069979
>people

>>32069790
Average Koshien viewership across all main streams (draft, report, games a/b, final, and exhibition) by year:
>2020: 134349
>2021: 139322 (+4%)
>2022: 193067 (+39%)
To beat Coco's graduation they'd need a 150% incline next year, which... doesn't seem particularly feasible

>>32069979
>willing to wake up so early
anonchama, most normies have to work today so of course they need to wake up early

>>32070002
don't even joke about mito like that. it just lowers you to their level.

>>32070068
anon, you realise that Hololive has ticket sales to know true audience numbers, right?

>From a 20k waiting room every stream to not even 20k
GRIM

Is the slide over or she'll be brushing with 12k next month?

grim

Someone said I should post my question >>32069813 here. What do you guys think about investing in Nijisanji's parent company to capitalize on vtubers?

>>32069979
>people

>>32069979
Niji box

>>32070174
Anon, don't use a fucking 4chan board to determine investments...

>>32070068
of course anon, you were there too right? is yagoo your uncle too?

To all the Niji fans who think Holo Summer event wont take gold, you are idiots.
To all the Holo fans keep your expectations low, it is true that Main channel is a debuff and Hololive is just bad at marketing and advertising their events coz they rely a lot on organic marketing and word of mouth

>>32070174
>Nijisanji's parent company
bilibili?

>>32070174
They're extremely overvalued like any tech company, but they won't go bankrupt because they're still extremely successful, if that makes sense.

>>32070159
Seems like she'll settle as a 10-15k streamer with an abnormally high ceiling for special content. Which is still really good, the top female talent in the company and top 5 overall.

>>32070282
Assuming she doesn't decline further

>>32070174
Investing a large sum of money on individual companies just because you personally like them is a really sketchy investment strategy.

>>32070282
If you saw what she was streaming last night, it was clearly a debuff stream.
Salome is still head and shoulders above every Niji female and competitive with Holos not named Marine and Pekora.

>>32070174
If you don't know how to do your own analysis on a stock from their books and make your own decision, you should just stick to auto-investing in VTSAX.
But seriously though, if you actually want a dialogue on this, why don't you start by laying out your own investment thesis? Why are you interested in an obscure virtual performer company on the JP stock market?

>>32070245
let the poor fags cope anon, now that koshien is over most of them went back to their caves

>>32070174
Their stock has been memed to the moon on the premise that they're the biggest (and only publicly listed) player in a unique market
This is retarded. Vtubers are competing with traditional entertainment media, which absolutely fucking dwarfs them. It's essentially the same situation as Tesla being valued more than the entire rest of the car industry
This does not necessarily mean they're a bad investment (because the market is not rational) but you go in knowing the price is built on unicorn farts

>>32070174
>What do you guys think about investing in Nijisanji's parent company to capitalize on vtubers?
Do you like gambling? Depending on when you would enter
>pc related
You would be up 35% or down about that much right now.

How big is your stack? If you're planning to invest anything under 10k USD; here is the best advice you'll get
>disregard the stock market, invest in a large pantry and buy non perishable goods in bulk

The energy price is skyrocketing but most governments are eating the loss and keeping it more or less stable by subsidizing it to avoid out of control inflation.
Sooner or later tho they won't be able to hold it and will have to pass the prices to the final consumer (meaning (you)) so whatever you buy in 3 months time will cost you a whole lot more than the 30% you would make with such a small sum

>>32070320
I don't think she will go lower than say, Lize. That's the floor.

>>32070174
I don't invest in entertainment companies as a rule of thumb, too volatile. Tech sector and blue chip for me.

>>32070174
Better to invest on gree, the parent company of REALITY. They’re set to take advantage of the coming metaverse boom.

>>32070282
>top female talent in the company
I was promised Toya level and a 30k floor. Have I been bamboozled?

>>32070453
why? she seems like a horrible streamer.

>>32070483
>metaverse boom

>>32070523
A lot of "bad streamers" are still popular. A lot of people like Salome for whatever reason, some of that will continue to persist.

>>32070453
Of course it's because of Koshien but Salome is trailing Lize right now

>>32069979
Huh? Are you guys not up at 6:30 am? How else do you account for commute, meal prep, and morning prep?

>>32070614
can you list a few so I can tell whether you're just being silly? I think Salome's bio 8 playthrough is a good indication that her bad streaming habits will kill her career

>>32070518
Yeah you're dumb as shit if you though someone would have a daily 30k floor indefinitely.

Thoughts?
https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2022/08/29/its-a-vtuber-takeover

>>32070673
I was promised at least a 20k floor

>>32070667
Pretty much everyone popular on twitch.

>>32070727
boring shit

>>32070743
ok so you're just a moron

>>32067060
>her underspec'd PC
she has a 3950x and a 3070, she stopped using her laptop almost 2 years ago

Holokekes don't want to talk about the REAL numbers. Your gold medals might as well be special olympics awards. Cover is a shitty incompetent company bad at making money.

>>32070159
>flooded with shills
>zoomers get filtered
Yeah shes bound to die

>>32069979
People are getting up specifically to do these morning exercises with him. This is a normal thing in Japanese culture that people do every day, it's called radio calisthenics or something

>>32070582
REALITY avatar is full body and have soul unlike meta/fb.
They also have a more developed environment for hosting events like vr live. They started earlier than fb/meta so it’s not a surprise.

>>32070664
Wfh

>>32070792
The tax amounts still makes me laugh, what a massive waste of money by anycolour

>>32070390
>everything that doesnt get her over 30k is a debuff
just admit that she's a terrible streamer carried by her design

>>32070835
We've done all of this before, it was called Second Life, it's not going to pop off until they can neural jack us into the matrix so we can all be Kirito, so don't get your hopes up on any of this nonsense.
Nobody, literally nobody, is going to attend meetings regularly wearing an Oculus Quest any time soon

>>32070792
Retardchama.

>>32070453
Salome's issue going forward is a lack of consistent buff content.
For Holos, there is always minecraft and other holobox games like Rust or Ark.
For Kuzuha, there will always be Apex and whichever FPS game is most popular.
Kenmochi skirts this issue by doing 5 streams a month.

Salome hasn't even done a collab stream yet after 2 months and apart from RE games, she has struggled to find the kind of game that she can stream for long and still get numbers (her playthroughs of RE were already extremely dragged out due to the 1 hour limit).
Nijis not having a community game is probably one of the reasons why they're so bottom heavy.

>>32070727
>Let’s get Digital
>Join your favorite Vtubers OliviaMonroe, TiffanyWitcher, and Delphron

Quite literally who? Better yet, I bet they'll be gay and black and trans and alphabet in gener-
>Tiffany Witcher is a Black and Indigenous voice actor and charity streamer based in Ontario, Canada.
>They have industry years on their belt, voicing characters in over two dozen games like Greyborn Studios’ Luna and the Moonling and EEK! Games’ House Party.
>After being diagnosed with Lupus, they started focusing on charity work to help more people who might be struggling just as they are.
>Witcher has raised $30,000 USD for various organizations ranging from Trans Lifeline, The AbleGamers Foundation, Gamers VS MS, and more.

Yeah, you all can burn EN vtubing to the ground, if Twitch gets its way you can kiss the hobby goodbye and will MISS the days of Vox whoring himself being the low point of ENVtubing

>>32070167
Way too many 3view streams for Iluna.

>>32070792
good to know cover invest back in the company and not in bots

>>32070792
Anon, the only thing you are showing is that Cover manages to get 90% of Anycolor sales profit with a fraction of the structure, up from 2020 and 2021, and that they're reinvesting that profit heavily in the company

>>32070667
>her bad streaming habits will kill her career
See you in 6 months anon

>>32070881
Depends who you are. If you're one of the investors getting those profits they're paying taxes on you're not gonna think it's a waste, since your goal of investing was to make money. If you're in the company and you sincerely believe it'll be around in 20 years then you might be concerned they aren't reinvesting as much as they could be.

>>32070980
I just don't understand how she can be successful with this dogshit 1 hour rule she has. It fucks over any real gaming streams. It means you can't ever have real, good zatsu content. It means you can't really do any good event streams. What is the plan? The sad part is that it's probably the only reason she's still holding onto these viewers as well. It's like a parasite that boosts her a little while killing her channel.

>>32070664
I retired at the start of the coof. Didn’t need the aggravation of dealing with that shitshow. Only time i woke up that early was because of client meeting that needed 3hrs drive to get to.

>>32071001
>>32071068
Copium. Where is Cover investing their money? I'm not seeing it.

>>32070993
I actually dont see any problem with this, people have reasons to become a vtuber this one is actually an understandable one, let them be

Nijisisters? This is your unslippable gold?

Easy gold for hololive

>>32071124
anon investors these days want long term growth, there's a reason big tech stocks also happen to all be making zero profit. It's generally understood by investors that early on you're not making big profit and anycolour are still super early in their life. If they're already at the point where they're wasting large amounts of profit on tax, that's a massive red-flag because that means growth is already being cucked.

>>32071179
3D

>>32070993
Black people are indigenous to Canada? I'm confused. Or is (they?) half-Eskimo?

>>32071190
kys

>>32071179
it shows though, their 3D more advanced than Niji, HoloAlt, HoloEarth, HoloMeet, HoloExpo, HoloFes etc

That was it?

>>32071243
>>32071264
Hahaha no. Just admit that losing Rushia and Coco destroyed hololive's income.

>>32071264
>it shows though, their 3D more advanced than Niji
Bullshit, even their live2d is worse than Niji's. See Gura, Anya, Irys, all the Tempus homos.

>>32070956
Yet vark and cluster lives are still selling tickets like hot cakes. It makes more sense as a meeting space for fans of virtual entities.

>>32071310
anon we can all see the graphs, it clearly hasn't. Cover don't make significant amount of money off 30% of SCs.

>32071310
trying too hard

What a braindead.

>>32071213
The only people I've seen hyping up Fuwa's last ep are holofans shitposting to downplay the Summer 3D live, which is an obvious 100k+.
People didn't even expect he'll get 60k this year and if not for the summer live, he would've actually won today.

>>32071343
can Niji stick pngs on their live2d? kek

>>32063703
Nowadays I’m pretty sure it’s just Suisei Mori and AZKi that don’t do prerecorded lives

>>32071235
The question is does vtubing have potential for longterm growth. All the other early vtubing companies have fallen off. Trends in popularity change. Can Anycolor or Cover hold the market for 10 years? If it was my money I would not mind *some* reinvestment but I don't want all my money rolled back into the company, this is not a stock I would intend to hold until my retirement. You're getting in on a hot trend, making money, and trying to find the right spot to get out.

>>32071310
are you ok anon? I mean, mentally

>>32071190
That's exactly how the hobby dies. Here is the usual cycle
>Tolerance
>Acceptance
>Forced inclusion
>Dominance

In every single hobby, and in every single aspect of life it starts exactly with your attitude
>they just want to exist alongside us, no need to antagonize them
Then it moves to
>they just want to exist *in our midst*, you need to accept tbem
Then
>you need to make arrangements to make their stay in our midst more comfortable for them
and finally
>you are not abiding by their rules, you are no longer welcome and are hereby excommunicated

The only way to prevent this cycle is to step on their heads before step one and NEVER EVER EVER EVER accept them (whoever "they" are).
Failing to prevent that threw almost ever niche hobby (like MtG and w40k) quickly into step 4.

Imagine being the autistic weirdo who actually cares about numbers and calculates numberfag shit. How mentally ill must you be exactly?

>>32071348
Sure it does, I'd pop on a VR headset to watch a Gura concert, but that doesn't mean I'd invest in a metaverse company at billion-dollar valuations. Because I know I have niche tastes.

>>32071421
Good thing Cover investors all bought into long term growth, being a private company and all whose first few investors all were betting heavily into VR and AR.

>>32071472
>whoever "they" are
in our case, nijinigs.

>>32071421
The previous vtuber companies were lacking in infrastructure and filled with yabs.
I might be short sighted too, but I don't see Cover or Anycolor reclining any time soon. Vtubers are more popular than ever right now and they have a stranglehold on the market.

>>32071539
>long term growth
like dumping money into shitty shovelware games, badly rigged models, awful designs?

>>32070360
I mean, honestly, I feel like that's probably a better investment strategy than most, considering that if you invest in a company that makes things you like, you know:
>the company has a history of making products that consumers will buy
Which is a fair deal more reliable than most tech startup investments.

>>32071550
In this particular case, Twitch EN VTubers (and EN VTubers not under a JP company in general)

>>32071472
How many times has that worked exactly? Gatekeeping something that became popular? Good luck.

>>32071594
That's their bet.

>>32071611
No because that ignores the valuation of the company and you end up being blinded by your fandom loyalty to said company.
Anycolor is ridiculously overvalued right now even if you think vtubers make bank and they'll be around for a while.

>>32071630
"Not trying" has 100% of chance of achieving the outcome you are trying to prevent.
Trying is free and funny too in this case, there is no downside in trying your hardest to prevent them from getting close, sabotaging their efforts is usually a very enjoyable group activity

>>32071630
Oh, literally never happened before, there's literally never been a successful example of gatekeeping in the history of, well, communities in general.
The closest I can think is the ancient kingdom of Sparta, which managed to keep itself a closed system for ages, which led to it being extremely outclassed and destroyed effortlessly.

>>32071472
Any delusions of gatekeeping vtubers already died in 2019 lol

>>32071738
See >>32071734, at very least you can drag things along for enough time to not be around to witness the destruction of what you consider good.

>>32071594
Just shut the fuck up and buy anykulor shares. Dumb bitch.

>>32071472
Good luck on your crusade to protect the essence of streaming with anime avatars, anon

>>32071472
>>32071613
>>32071734
What the hell is this seethe anon?
Will you be ok if it was a JP vtuber doing this?

>>32071738
The trick is to try to convert people to your way of thinking before they overwhelm you fully and keep up with memes promoting your way of thought
It's too late for chuubas tho

>>32071875
>if ... happens
>when ... happens
>wait until ... happens
>In case ... happens
>After ... happens

>>32071343
cope

>>32069717
HoloCure really fucked them up the ass
Kay Yu is the saviour of June

>>32071421
anon talking as individuals, never try this investment strategy. Just invest in funds and then whatever extra is left for fun, invest in high risk high return fun stuff. big investors don't go by "well we need to find the perfect time to sell", they invest in companies that have actual long term value.

>>32071776
Again, see >>32071734. Because you can't prevent "normalfags" from enjoying your hobby it doesn't mean you have to accept Twitter narrative that a literal gay nigger is part of
>your favorite Vtubers
(their words)
https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2022/08/29/its-a-vtuber-takeover

Three literally fucking whos are what the second biggest live streaming site are inviting to teach their audience about vtubers, it is not just that they're diversity picks, they aren't even representative of the medium or the hobby.
If you accept that willingly the next unavoidable step is
>sexualized models are no longer welcome in our platform
>too young looking models are no longer accepted in our platform
>you need at least X% of underrepresented models to match the make up of the population

>>32071472
Evil preaches tolerance until it is the majority, then it will silence you.

>>32071310
>but muh superchat money matters!!!11
lmao looks at this nijitoddler
you need to be above 18 to post here

>>32070174
It's literally gambling for day traders at this point. If you know what you're doing, just wait until the stock drops and invest on speculation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICi_vVv1nMU
>vesper uploading shit on his day off
>again

>>32072044
anon this is by the editor he hired

>>32071875
>Will you be ok if it was a JP vtuber doing this?
No, if they picked three literally japanese specifically because they're gay, niggers and made it the front page / trends page of Youtube in their "vtuber invasion" week and told the audience those are who will teach them about vtubers I would be saying the same thing.

It just so happen that it is Twitch and a westernized audience, but it is not the fact it is western

>>32072044
10/10 thumbnail

>>32072096
wait he hired one already? man is working fast

>>32072114
it's in the description and he mentioned it last week. Probably someone he knew from PL

>>32072044
16 mins is way too long for a clip

another sub 100k for niji

>>32071980
since you are so into this fantasy,
Rules are decided by the winners, if you want to safeguard your idea of this perfect vtubing industry make sure that Hololive stays on top and they will determine how vtubing should be, you wont have to do this much seething then

>>32071980
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who got into vtubers in that 2019-2020 period deserve whatever blight comes to them, especially in the ENsphere. You can fight the fight if it pleases you but you're already years late on the rallying cry.

I find it extremely funny that people have this intensely impossible time figuring out the simple idea that multiple different communities can exist within the same general concept.
Like, fuck, just the fact that "Twitch Vtubing" and "Youtube Vtubing" are two completely different subcultures should be enough to understand that, but no, apparently one thing existing means the other thing will be destroyed or some shit.

>>32072245
Most people realize that, it's just a few idiots on 4chan rumao

Is there any particular reason why the catalog is literally blitzing at the speed of light today?
Actually, let me guess. Dramafags?

>>32072206
>150k holo
Oh wow. How was the festival?

>>32072245
You'd also have to be a retard to think they have no influence on each other either. Or what do you think NijiEN acts more like NijiJP than they do twitch groups?

>>32072245
vtuber = virtual youtuber
anything outside youtube is not a vtuber and shouldn't be allowed