/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna (embed)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna

>>31942721
Me in the middle

>>31942762
>(embed)
fuck me....

I like how Nazuna probably thought the "JP bros..." means the EN bro is chastising our bros, but we're actually just looking at them with a silent nod of approval.

>>31943046
nani? I'm missing the context for what you're talking about.

I love this nekomancer

pain

I wonder which Ru archives she watched
It reminded her of her feelings for us so it doesn't seem like it'd be a collab or some such

Now that she has said again that she wants to marry us I have a serious question.
Do you guys tell your friends and family that you are dating a japanese vtuber or do you keep the relationship a secret?

>>31944391
Possibly she would see rushia's tweets, I don't think she has all her rushia vods saved

>>31942321
I know, it's kind of a mess, but I have time and dedication! (•̀ᴗ•́)و

>>31941529
Gotcha. Acts of love. I don't do art anymore, but if my wife wants it, I can make a little animation or something. Thanks for the advice anon.

Just bringing it to this thread! This is my first time having a wife, so I'm still a bit confused on how this all works. My main two questions were:

1. What am I supposed to do now that I have a wife? I watch her die in Apex and tweet about her when she's not around, but am I supposed to be doing anything else?
2. How am I supposed to love my wife? Do I idolize her? She is an idol, so that would make sense. But I want to love her selfishly. I don't want to share her with other streamer boys.

Thanks for the help anons. My OP with all the info I was wondering is here >>31940268

>>31944691
1: you just need to love her and let her know it
2: only you can know the answer to this one.

>>31944471
I didn't tell my family, but my friends, so they're pretty much aware of it, they know about February and how miserable I was at the time, they don't fully understand but they accept.

Any screenshots of the mid-stream shopping date for archival purposes?

https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1564193579782008838

>>31944471
Nobody even knows I learned Japanese
When the hokkaido mansion happens I will disappear without a trace

Member Twitcast

>>31944471
>>31945489
>>31949736
What the fuck?

>>31951670
>Member
Well that sucks.

I cannot fucking believe we've gotten to the point where she browses her 4chan thread
I cannot believe that we arrived to that point

Some things should stay seperate but here we are anyway

>>31954928
Mikeneko if you're reading this I love you! Also I hate vshojo please leave vshojo

BUTT

Mikeneko I love you and I only want to see happiness in your life and as long as I can be together with you forever that's all I'll need

>>31947963
what even is thw difference between gaming friends and actual friends to her? Oddly specific thing to ask for

>>31955563
I'm assuming it's because she was thinking about wanting to play video games

>>31954928
how do you know she browses here? I thought that one retard sent her a link here once but how could she see this thread again unless that retard sent her another link? and she can't read english so she wouldn't know what we're saying anyway. I doubt she's browsing here. Does she browse 5ch? probably not. If she browsed places like this the first place she'd go to is 5ch, not this shithole.

>>31956776
anon she has a known history of browsing 5ch. and also her last mengen cast pretty much confirmed our fears of her being a lurker

>>31956776
Youbhave nonidea how much I wish I hadn't seen hard proof. I could still cope if that wasn't the case.
>does she browse 5ch?
>probably not
God fucking damnit anon...

>>31957059
>confirmed our fears of her being a lurker
fears of being a lurker here or on 5ch?
what did she say on the last mengen that confirmed she lurks here? I didn't hear anything like that.

>>31957208
>hard proof
what hard proof? there is no hard proof retard. Sure, she probably browses 5ch. But here? fuck no. She only knows japanese. The only time I can believe she browsed here is when that one schizo sent her dm link to a previous thread here. She didn't say anything about it in the recent mengen either.

>>31957636
>what hard proof? there is no hard proof retard
You have no idea how frustrating it is for those images to not be mine to share. Mostly because you're too god damn smug and I want to see you fall into this pit of despair called the truth alongside me.

You have no idea how bad it really is

>>31955563
she just wants people to play epe and splatoon with

>>31957921
if it was so bad like your dumb ass is trying to make me believe then she wouldn't have praised foreigners so much when drama was peaking because she would have seen how many anti's try to stir shit up on these threads. The difference is that foreign anti's don't tend to attack her directly on places like twitter, instead preferring to make shitposts on foreign dominated websites like 4ch. Furthermore, you have no fucking proof so there is no reason to believe you.

>>31955388
my wife's cute butt...

>>31955388
this little angel is too erotic.....

>>31957636
If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>31958386
She literally mentioned how she wants "non-anonymous" fan feedback in the second most recent twitch stream, phrasing it very specifically. Also, she said on her sub that it was kaigai DMing her and that she was worried that kaigai dont love or trust her.

Once again, as with all meaningful proof: are you in the bunker? Or at least the twunker?

>>31960942
I'm in the Punker

It's not real, it's all fake...

>>31961362
I hate the fact that I've devolved into a series of Discords too you don't have to rub it in
If you're not a tourist you should've already gotten in through one of the links posted several times in the past weeks anyway though

>>31960942
"non-anonymous" could mean anything, it doesn't mean she regularly browses here with the exception of the time that retard sent a link to a previous thread here. We all knew about the schizo's dming her instagram, thats what the whole fuss was about these last few days and thats not even what I'm talking about. I'm talking about her lurking these threads as often as you imply. Thats a totally different thing from the few schizo's that dm'd her.

>the bunker
fuck off with your secret jerk off club. I've been lurking and posting on these threads for months since the twitcast streams used to be translated in full on /jp/ but now thats stopped since this bunker bullshit started that no one knows the password to but a tiny clique of cum guzzlers all jerking each other off.

I'm going to make the schunker and it's going to be restricted to only the absolute biggest schizos

>>31962908
>the twitcast streams used to be translated in full on /jp/ but now thats stopped since this bunker bullshit started
Anon I think your timeline is off

>they're not in the twunker

>>31962908
The translations stopped before all of this because the TL guy got too busy to keep it up, the "bunkers" are dead 99% of the time and have had 0 effect on these threads which died naturally because of drive-by shitposting overwhelming all discussion to the point that no-one wants to talk about anything here anymore because they know it'll just be taken out of context by some fucking retard and used as bait.
But I do agree that the constant talk of it is annoying, either say what you wanna say here or don't say anything, don't teeter between the two and tease people with information.

>>31957954
I'd say more epe than splat since you don't really need friends for splat

Anons i'm high as fuck. Am i dreaming? Please tell me it's a dream

I'm not even comfortable sexposting anymore because of the fact that she could be lurking

>>31962908
You're right that there's no hard evidence of activity besides on the 23rd but I think that if in a hypothetical sense she did something that rhymes with "Erect Kessage", and if interacting with a clickable thing in that led a person to one of these threads, its fair to say that she was at least quite well acquainted with the contents of at least that particular thread at that particular time

>>31964308
じいいいいい

>>31962908
check the archive for my reply
If you don't grasp what I'm conveying I can only say sorry because I really, really don't want to be clear enough for her to understand

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1564256884110278657
enough with the whining, she's awake

My wife has such a broken sleep schedule she thinks it'smorning at 11 pm...

>>31964434
>erect kessage
>rhymes with direct message
are you a fucking moron? thats what I've been saying the whole time. some dipshit sent her a dm to a link to a previous thread here. I've said that several times. The issue here is me disputing your claim that she regularly lurks this place though. Outside of that one instance, there is absolutely no fucking proof that she regularly lurks here as you say unless some schizo is regularly sending her thread links here each time the old thread dies. Yes, its believable that she would have read through the thread here which she was linked to by that one schizo, but to say she lurks here outside of that one incident is totally unsubstantiated and just makes you look like a shizo.

>>31964918
retard, she's being considerate of kaigai waking hours.

https://p2y.jp/vshojo-miscalculation-misreading-japanese-listeners-and-fans-of-vtuber-impression-of-mikeneko-amemiya-nazuna/
prepare for another schizoposting hours because someone did a hitpiece about vhsojo jp and Nazuna.

>>31965833
don't care dramafag

>>31965833
Let the catalog and vsj destroy themselves over it. Don't care.

>>31965833
This isn't even a hitpiece what drugs are you on. I actually hoped the piece would expose how terrible vshojo is to the nips but this is just a nothingburger.

>>31965833
doesn't really seem like a hitpiece.
just stating the facts about vshojoJP and questioning if it will survive the JP market or not.
That's literally all it says.
Unless that's the drama you're talking about in which case only the catalog niggers will post about that in bait threads and personally I don't give a shit one way or another if vshojo gets shat on. My wife may work there but I am not a corpo simp

>>31965833
It's no secret that Vshojo is a shitty company that just runs on "hehe just do what you want lol. They have literally done nothing for Nazuna except for reeling in money from her because kson scammed her

>>31965148
you are misunderstanding me, you are implying that she was a one-sided reciever of such an erect kessage.
I am telling you that she was the reciever, she was the giver, and that is why its hard proof

And will you stop fucking clarifying my coded jargon when its intentional you actual faggot

>>31967841
she was NOT the receiver*, sorry

https://twitter.com/butayarou32/status/1563789402412687360?t=AuZa9jgmpD50IKhVJbugoQ&s=19

>>31960942
>kaigai DMing her and that she was worried that kaigai dont love or trust her.
True on both accounts, foreign fans are just leading her on. they don't nurture actual feelings for her like we do.

>>31965833
They should really not do shit like pirate streams of anime if they want to JP branch to be successful.

>>31968044
Why are so many people shitposting about Mafu in that thread.

>>31969065
No idea but saka liked the tweet so at the very least the OP is a gachi

Nazuna and kson collab on chaturbate
https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1560705041446625281?t=sNym4ecBsLoIz83lyw6LVg&s=19

>>31970333
Ain't clicking that at work.

>>31968733
>True on both accounts, foreign fans are just leading her on. they don't nurture actual feelings for her like we do.
I mean, gachikoi were always a minority by definition. Even for her. There's only so many people willing to engage that much.
If she keeps doing the things that make gachikoi, that number will keep growing, don't worry

anyone have a timestamp of the precise moment in her stream monhun stream where she started saying "I love you" back?

>>31969631
Cool, I was worried about accidentally liking an anti post

>>31944471
Better to keep it a secret between two people.

>>31971028
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1572936671?t=04h06m02s
might be this one

>>31971028
8:42AM EST
She went live at roughly 4:36AM EST, so something like 3:54:00 minutes in
However, because it may be slightly off on either due to human error, I'd recommend starting at 3:50:00 and listening from there just to be sure. It was fairly obvious and hard to miss.

>>31942762
>Rushia
Twitter: https://twitter.com/uruharushia/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_gCybOJRIgOXw6Qb4qJzQ

>implying she doesn't know how to use the archived

>>31964308
Mikeneko is a sexy girl. Very hot!

21 of the last 50 posts in the VshojoJP thread are posts about Towa
https://egg.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/streaming/1656817750/l50

Also the mikeneko thread on 5ch seems properly gone. It was dying rapidly for a while
I didn't catch if they moved somewhere else but then again there weren't any fans there either so I suppose it isn't that important. I don't just JP fans much anymore anyway.

Does she still do any ASMR? In Members maybe? Rushia's ASMR, especially the last one, is just amazing

https://twitter.com/ri_su_ri/status/1563463018561671170?t=IA0fTK7sT2eX4yd3tVmH4Q&s=19

I want to cuddle her
I want to hold her
I want to hug her tight
AAAHH WHY IS SHE NOT IN MY ARMS RIGHT NOW

>>31972351
>>31973002
Japs don't know twitch and prefer their own platforms (mildom). I fear this severely limits Nazuna's grwoth.

>>31972351
Oh fuck now she's definitely going to find out about towaposting

>>31973030
looking forward to Nazuna ASMR too

>>31973030
She's been saying she'll do it for a while as Mikeneko but she sounded unsure as Nazuna
People keep asking for it though
I also want her to do it again, but I don't want her to do it if she doesn't want to since it only meant so much because of how much she wanted to be doing it when she did it

>>31973002
It's only one anti who makes the thread and the rest are shitposters from hololive threads. If he fucked off they would barely talk about her on that board.

>>31973543
I doubt she bothers with the VshojoJP thread lol. It's pretty dead.
Honestly I'm surprised her 5ch thread died. I guess it's a good sign that her antis are getting bored but even though we've been under metaphorical siege dozens of times we've not only kept this thread up but also dominated by actual fans

>>31973722
But what will otsurushi do with his life now?

>>31973722
That makes her posting there recently even stranger
Also, If she really did frequent that thread as it may seem, it's probably because she tries to see what anonymous posters are saying(likely looking out for anti shit), and now she found /here/ just as the 5ch thread basically died off to the point of vanishing entirely...

>>31973617
>>31973671
I hope it happens

>>31973816
It's not a surprise. The only reason they raid that thread is because it doesn't have IDs.

>>31974071
it's almost like Mike made the 5,ch threads but now has no reason to bow that there's /here/ KEK

>>31974153 (me)
And it's not the 1st time the thread dies before midnight.

5ch is entirely antis. They are the enemy. Real fans stick to chat.

>>31973306
Sorry anon. She's sleeping in my arms right now.
Source: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1563541012781248513

>>31973306
Because she isn't real.
Take your meds.

>>31975379
I'm not sure this line works for an actual person

>>31975379
. Today I spent the whole day being loveydovey with wife and this woman is trying to convince me she is not real.

>>31975178
Chat is pretty shit overall.

>>31976373
Cutting Board jokes are lame af but mostly harmless.

>>31968870
i'm not sure about before but since vshojo launched nobody pirated anime on stream, the even got sponsored by funimation and Book Walker, seems like a nothingburger

>>31976955
JP copyright law badly needs a revision. They still work with written on paper permissions for fuck's sake.

>>31976447
That's not what I'm referring to honestly, a couple of very vocal chatters just often seem to be entirely tone deaf in what they say and it can occasionally make chat feel as if they're not watching the same thing I am because of how strange the tone can get.

>>31977627
Hololive chat was too good due to years of experience. Twitch are kids and newfags

>>31975379
.......do you not know who this thread is for anon? Are you lost or something?

She is our real relationship partner, it's just long distance.

>飴宮なずな
>飴 > 甘々> sweet
>1. (hard) candy; toffee
2. rice-sugar; sugar made from the starch of rice, potatoes, etc.

飴
たがね
1. confection (e.g. candy, mochi); sweetArchaism

yes

sex

I want to die

if Nazuna wants to marry me. I want to consummate our marriage...

>>31981601
Nazu-chan if you're reading this please know he's referring to sex

>>31981601
>>31982332
She's not lurking here. Take your meds faggots

>>31984298
I wish I was you

>>31984298
She was here. The only question is whether she still is.

Nazuna, if you're lurking, can you give me a kiss please? ( ˘ 3˘)

>>31984298
Blessed innocence...

>>31984766
ﾁｭ

>>31985742
(〃▽〃)

>>31985742
Please don't pretend to be my wife

Hello hello nice to meet you (ﾉ≧∇≦)ﾉ ﾐ ━

some of you may have even called her ESL at some point

Apologize to Kson and Vshojo.
Be grateful to Kson and Vshojo.

https://youtu.be/RV8OdhHjDCI?t=65
whisper singing

I'm in the bunker, the twunker AND the Naznker
I can't get into the Miunker

>>31986890
The final layer of the matryoshka is just my dms

>>31986726
I would if I'd felt this relationship has gone in a positive direction since her joining Vshojo.
Unfortunately the distance between her and her audience is greater now than it was before she joined.

>>31988199
Objection: opinion

>>31988199
We're not her literal only support system now, and while I liked feeling special and useful this is ultimately better (as long as she doesn't start doing stupid shit, which she probably won't)

I am a very good cook. I want to make my wife a tasty warm dish. I want to see her smile and maybe give the cooking a compliment every once in a while, when I go all out. I think that would be nice.

>>31988199
Probably because YOU retards DM'd death threats at her.

Don’t start this argument again.

Honestly Rushia should still be here. I still think what happened to her was wrong.

>>31990055
Based

How is Nazuna not superior to Ru?

any signs of life from her? I'm going slightly menhera

>>31990526
Yes.
Very recent too. Settle the menhera

>>31990668
such as?

>>31990928
short twitcast, retweets and GM tweet on Nazu

>>31990259
Ru had over 1 million followers on Twitter, Nazuna has about 200k
Ru had 1.6 million subscribers on YouTube, probably would have made it to 2 million by now. Nazuna has 200k.
Ru was a member of Hololive Fantasy, one of the most popular VTuber groups in all of Japan. Nazuna isn’t even in a group.

She retweeted some very interesting arts

Nazuass...

I'm sorry but this is a classic example of a cuckoldryfaggot going into overcome mode. The relationship is saved and we have even gotten somewhat closer to her through it and now his fantasies, which where once fresh, are crumbled, thus he has to falsify information and make up bullshit to try and find some way to try and drive a wedge or find a proverbial divide between us and wife now.

>>31992064
>>31989942

I love this necromancer

>>31992064
If my wife wants to stream Apex for 6 hours that's fine. I want her as happy and sweet as possible.

So I was watching some clips of her as Rushia and I might sound like an idiot but wow her demeanor and voice just sound so different that I think when I saw someone saying that they thought Nazuna wasn’t her. Now I think I kinda understand how that person came to that conclusion.

>>31994247
https://archive.ragtag.moe/channel/UCl_gCybOJRIgOXw6Qb4qJzQ
You're welcome

>>31988871
What? We're further from her now than Rushia too. Not sure how your argument makes any sense.

>>31989789
>death threats
lmao

>>31994413
What the fuck this has her member asmr

>>31994786
??? I feel like we’re closer to her now than as Rushia… what are you smoking.

>>31995367
All her member stuff are archived

>>31995790
Not since a few weeks ago we haven't been.

>>31995855
I got things to do.

>>31991732
I wish i could see them but twitter shit the bed.

Streams doko?

Look at how happy they are together. This is what was stolen from her and us.

>>32000124
>shitposting with pictures from locked accounts
Disgusting

>>32000358
I’m not the first one who posted pictures from the locked account.

>>32000717
It's been 6 months. No one cares

>>32000717
The ones posted were already on the public pixiv dumbfuck

>>32000997
Then why does it still hurt?
>>32001568
Oh.

>>32001958
She's happier now than ever. The yab was ultimately positive.

>>31986726
>apologize to Vshojo
roru
rumao
sorry, but I love my wife and our relationship and I don't like the people trying to stand in the way of it

>>32003436
This is actually good to know, I’ll keep that in mind.

>>32003436
>The yab was ultimately positive.
This is yet to be proven. She went through a lot of shit to say the least and she's still in the early stages of her hopefully happy period, which has already been rocked by our couple's fight and VSJ staff trying to destroy our relationship.

>>32003436
She was happier when we were closest and that time isn't now.

>>32004685
The controversy landed her a seiyuu job. She fell higher.

>>32003711
>but I love my wife and our relationship and I don't like the people trying to stand in the way of it
I keep seeing this shit but nobody actually post any argument, if anything you would have a lot less of her content if nazuna didn't exist, i will never understand why people are so mad at vshojo for doing literally nothing lmao

>>32005032
I don't wanna start rumors with my n3 japanese but while she wasn't necessarily on bad terms with her hololive colleagues she hinted she disliked collabs. Vshojo was excellent for her.

>>32005032
Where do you think she got the idea of breaking her promises so that she can collab with the first 2view she notices? From the lie of "talent freedom". Luckily she remembered there are more important things than corporate ideologies and she's still with us.

>>32005032
Content is great but worrying about our relationship every day instead is just a different type of hell

>>32005032
VShojo is the scapegoat here, if anything goes wrong it's their fault most of the time.

>>32005268
Idk but I'm not trying to make people like vshojo I'm just curious wtf happened to some people to just shit on her new workpla e for no reason, and it also looks like somehow they think they are helping her by doing that, like she wouldn't have a breakdown if she were to leave because "fans" keep trying to get her to leave

>>32005317
So it was the voices once again, forgot what thread i was asking

>>32005618
some people are too retarded and are still stuck in their tribalfag ways, they're too blind to see that she's happier now than when she was just Mikeneko and will blame VShojo the moment something goes wrong, even if they had nothing to do with it.

>>32005618
She said she loved VShojo and the VShojo girls countless times. Honestly that should be the end all say all unless something major happens.

>>32005618
I can't speak for her or know what's going on in her head but from what I gathered:
>rarely collabed with anyone at all unless strictly necessary
>rarely made covers or originals because too self conscious of her voice
>thinks "women are a such a pain to work with"
She is much more comfortable with the indie streamer style that she has in vshojo.

>>32005943
She even praised them on alt

Alright, think of it this way. Rushia loves her viewers and keeps her promises to them. Mikeneko loves her viewers and keeps her promises to them. Nazuna loves her viewers but suddenly she's a bit not sure on the whole "promise to not hurt her viewers thing" so she sees some dumbass with an annoying voice and wants to push her luck. What changed? "Talent freedom". It's not real freedom, it's an ideological package that tells you you HAVE to collab with males and you CAN'T care about the opinions of your viewers or else you're not "free". Luckily she's starting to realize the scam.
There's nothing wrong with the VShojo girls. They're fine people who have treated her well. She doesn't have to leave Vshojo, she needs to bend it to her will and make it her bitch. She needs to expose the ideological system for what it is and prove that love is more powerful. She can do this and I believe she will.
Fuck Cover too

>>32006175
meds

>>32006175
Didnt she join a thing on mike shortly before the nazuna thing? Kinda makes your whole argument implode, also meds

I love Nazuna and she loves us. She briefly thought she might not love us because of the idiots insisting she has to break up with her fans to be free. But we're the ones that love her while they want to make money off her.

>>32006437
>Didnt she join a thing on mike shortly before the nazuna thing?
What?
>meds
no

>>32006437
>Didnt she join a thing on mike shortly before the nazuna thing?
No?

>>32006610
That's why she is our wife.

NEKOMANCER ANGEL LOVE

>>32007122
Correct, and our bonds with our wife go far deeper than the bullshit they're peddling.

For the last fucking time the totsu wasn't a collab and it was about mental health and concerns and her concern was making friends. She spent more time talking to females during it. It's like not a single fucking lesson was learned here and the next time she runs into a random male on Minecraft what are you motherfuckers going to do? Please just calm down. Has she not proven more than enough how much she loves you guys and doesn't want to hurt you?

>>32009202
She literally intentionally tried to hurt her viewers and admitted to such.
She was under a cognitive distortion and it was our fault for not trying to correct it sooner before it snowballed into what it did eventually become.

She remembered who she was now and we know that because she won't collab with men. If she ever does it means she isn't herself again
Simple as

This thread is being surveilled by thiccwithaq's cuck fetishist twitter. Say something nice to them.

>>32009484
What a convienient excuse

>>32009484
>>31989942
How many times

it's pretty obvious this thread is being primed to become an anti thread. You're going to get regular "we need to spam her dms like last time" posts

>>32009484
No she never fuckin tried to hurt her viewes "intentionally" and I swear if you quote the rebellious phase shit to counter me I will skull rape you. It is not within her nature to hurt her viewers. I do agree that perhaps she got a little too comfortable in her new lifestyle and tried things that in the process would have hurt her viewers but that wasn't entirely on her nor was it intentional. You still didn't answer my question. I really want to know how you fuckers are going to react if she runs into a random guy on Minecraft. I pray and hope to god that i see some decent fucking answers

>>32009793
I think most anons learned their lesson on that front. However there is one specific anon here that is adamant that she must never breathe the same air as another man even after all that's happened. Is probably one of the many anons that fuckin broke and left and only came back after she apologized.

Sorry for timelooping but the way I see Totsugate is like this, multiple factors played into it. First and foremost, Vshojos talent freedom, now talent freedom itself is fine, it's basically letting the streamer decide what to do and whether or not she wants to put restrictions on themselves, as well as if they should give a damn about chat, the main problem was that Vshojos talent freedom has a different connotation, partially made by the Vshojo girls themselves but something almost entirely made by the fans and onlookers of Vshojo, that being "if you don't collab with males all the time and you actually give a fuck about your viewers then you're not free", it's not true for a lot of the girls and they care about their fans in varying amounts, but that's generally the stigma associated with Vshojos talent freedom, she might have felt pressured to push boundaries on certain things because she thought it was the norm or she didn't want to draw ire from people and thought her Gavhi wouldn't mind(more in my second point), couple that with being on a new platform she knows nothing about and her general lack of awareness and you can start to see the picture. The second factor is actually us, over the 6 months a lot of us have essentially become Yesmen to what she does, worst cases being people like Kitatsuki for context, and have essentially agreed to everything she'd want to do and the people who don't agree either didn't really speak, grinned and bore it or didn't really voice their opinions on anything besides a Mongolian Animation board, which she doesn't really see, thus giving her a false positive on what her Gachi where actually thinking. Really and truly the DM situation was needed and ended the best way possible for us desu, and imo was something needed sooner or later as I fear what would have happened had we didn't send them, there is genuinely an alt timeline where she didnt receive DMs and thinks we don't mind her doing this and that's scary to me.

>>32009882
>It is not within her nature to hurt her viewers.
I agree
That's why the only explanation for why she did triy to hurt her viewers is a cognitive distortion

Learn more facts, or shut the fuck up.

>>32010280
>if you don't collab with males all the time and you actually give a fuck about your viewers then you're not free
No one actually gives a shit about that, anon. Stop basing your world view off of 4chan and actually spend some time in a Vshojo chat if you're going to make those claims. If Ironmouse said "Im not doing collabs this week", the chat would not give a shit.

>>32010036
I think people who only post here and don't have access to more detailed information should stop pretending as if they're particularly insightful.

I'm just the only person posting here because the others are worried over information (You) haven't made the effort required to see.
Because like every tourist, you beg to be spoonfed or otherwise don't relent on your newfaggotry.

>>32009793
Antis are making me appreciate Vshojo. Things like her name being a reference to 甘々 that I hadn't noticed before. I'm thinking Vshojo is a more based company than I thought.

>>32009882
She won't run into a random guy in minecraft because she understands that her viewers would be hurt by it and therefore won't do it.

>>32009882
>It is not within her nature to hurt her viewers.
I agree but
>No she never fuckin tried to hurt her viewes "intentionally"
This is still wrong. The fact is she took her break specifically to make us suffer and beg for her back. She had a bitter moment that she regrets and I forgive her because I love and specifically believe it's not her nature.

>>32010594
>intentionally
I think you missed this word anon, or perhaps you don't know the meaning of it.

>>32010290
Go fuck yourself you shit flinging menhera.
She clearly just saw how differently her environment was and the whole muh talent freedom shit and let's be honest here. Vshojo most likely recommended that group to her because of the connections they have. She didn't think much on it because of how she saw everything as more liberating but she didn't suddenly one day have the thought "today I'm going to hurt my viewers".
Stop acting like a goddamn smartass just because you think you know Japanese

>>32010728
She is aware of the fact that the minecraft server has males actively playing on it

>>32010713
Okay on that front with her giving us the cold shoulder I do agree is intentionally but I'm mainly talking about going into that totsu

>>32010775
Do your Mikeneko ARG reps dumbfuck tourist
Find the information only like 10 people have seen first before you talk as if you know anything

>>32009793
This. The constant shitposting and anons being forced to dig their heels into pigeonholing an issue are becoming quite obviously intentional. Atleast now there's the twunker so actual fans can sperg there first

You guys being retarded again
Good night

I think some of you are missing the point of the Minecraft question. It's not a "will she do it?" Scenario. It's a "what if it randomly happens and she has no control over it?" Scenario

>>32011068
I will never let this thread be an anti thread and Inwill never let this thread be okay with male interaction

I have guarded it for 2 years in such a way and I will continue to do both until the end of time

>>32011279
Love Mikeneko
Hate males

God I hate totsugate posters so much. Can we have the mafu2 spammers back instead?

>>32011197
If she meant what she said about remembering her feelings it means remembering the same feelings that caused her to pretend holostars didn't exist on the schedule unprompted

>>32011469
That doesn't answer the question yet. What will you do IF it were to happen and she has NO control over it? Why are you cunts scared to answer this?

>>32011540
It's ok you have a cuck fetish.

>>32011673
I don't understand why you're deflecting so much over a simple question

>>32011774
You have a cuck fetish. No one is judging you, it's fine.

>>32011279
Thank you for being a prime example of what I just talked about.

>>32011540
Depends on her
I know she knows males are on that server though so frankly she can prevent that from ever happening by not playing on that server

>>32011915
I think antis are good publicity as long as they don't harass people irl. The worst thing an entertainer can do is being boring.

>>32011850
Look man, I'm just asking you if you'll DM her about male interactions that she had no control over or if you'll just be upset but let it slide because it wasn't a 1 to 1 collab. At the very least that's probably what I would do. However if that random male tries pushing his luck of course I'd get furious as well and let her know that I'm upset. There I gave you my answer so why are you deflecting yours?

>>32012138
Thank you for your honest answer anon.

>>32011915
Anybody who thinks a debate exists about male interaction for Uruha fucking Rushia, the only vtuber to ever have actual genuine bonfida unicorns in any significant number, is not a person worth talking to.

Most things are not black and white. But her and male collabs? Sorry, that is. Because she is Uruha god damn Rushia.

>>32012169
Because your post is so retarded I have no idea what you're even trying to say.

Mikeneko has done many male stuff in the past. Anon, sometimes very uncomfortable stuff as well but most of that was her being manipulated by men she thought of as friends. Do I need to pull up the エッチしょう sound file?

>>32012146
Ignoring how that opinion came entirely out of nowhere, seeing how one constant bane to her existence is random normies """laughing""" at her deleted tweets, that is an incredibly dumb take.

Correcting a cognitive distortion in her brain that made her openly behave in a way that isn't herself isn't anti behavior, it's husband behavior

So when is next stream?

>>32012885
Still 夏休み

>>32012693
Yes, and Mikeneko pre-Rushia was a broken person. Because of men. Being Rushia fixed her and if she takes a step towards her old self she will become broken again.

>>32012705
I do know her psychopathic chuunibyou tweets but she finally learned to stop manic tweeting during menhera outbreaks.

>>32012959
Really? Shes done two streams since she said that though

>>32013040
You have a point there. It's fucked up how much males took advantage of her kindness back then I never want to see that happen again. Idk what it is with her that attracts every single person she interacts with to turn into antis

>>32012705
I see antis as a necessary evil
>get laughed at for posting dumb thing
>stops posting dumb thing
Plus fights are fun.

iirc she said in the Monhun stream she wanted to kinda continue her vacation until the 30th so expect a stream tomorrow/or today? I don't get fucking timezones anymore

>>32013185
Her and other men don't mix. Only her and us forever like we promised. Every other guy will only ever hurt her like they always have and that's why she doesn't need anybody but us and we don't need anybody but her.

>>32013185
Is that more cuck fantasy or an actual nico stream? Go ahead and share.

>>32013291
one of my favorite things to laugh at was the retard anti who would change his name to that male faggot and then samefag to himself not realizing he forgot to change his name back to anon

>>32013291
This is the VTuber equivalent of justifying beating your wife to correct her behavior. Although I agree shitting on the antis is fun.

>>32013475
I want her to stop tweeting altogether. Mike is a boomer that foolishly thinks private online account is separate from her professional account.

>>32013128
What the other anon said, expect no streams for the remainder of August, though there's always the chance of guerrillas. The first stream was just her wanting to play games with us that she would start a guerilla stream, while splatfest was splatfest so of course she would play it.

>>32013434
It's real but it happened to like 4 other holos. It was a "dare" to say it, usually given to impressionable girls who get put on the spot in front of an audience that'd harass them if they didn't do it

Which is why she isn't meant to interact with other men, ever

>>32013606
that's an oddly specific thing to suddenly change the topic to.
Also fuck you her tweets are the sweetest things even if she does go a little unhinged sometimes.

>>32013693
Oh it's just cuck bullshit then.

>>32013606
how to say you're not a gachikoi husband without saying it

>>32013434
refer to >>32013693
TLDR old school NND era was 10 times more toxic than 2010 era Twitch and was especially toxic to the women who streamed there.

I fucking hate you guys. I used to send her good night messages to her on insta and passionate confessions to her every now and then but now I don't know if i'm still allowed to do that.

>>32013945
I know that. I saw all her anti clips.

>>32014193
Her becoming Rushia saved her from that life which is why she loves her so much.

>>32014077
Oh I'm still doing the passionate confessions

>>32014393
Do you have any actual NND clips to share or just cuck larp fantasies?

>>32014545
you're really starting to sound like an anti asking to be spoonfed with clips that you will no doubt just use to anti more

>>32014727
Did it really take like 10 posts before you realized that you dumb dumb?

>>32015463
Nah. I've seen all anti material and they're really lame. They haven't changed my opinion on mike at all.

She hurt me back
I deserve it but I never could have prepared for it
Makes me sad how I threw away the past 2 years and now I feel lost

>>32017369
you alright anon?

>>32018602
I've never been worse

>>32019389
You're going to make it anon

>>32019389
glad to hear it, hope it lasts a long time

>>32019389
If you're who I think you are atop fucking crying over her reactions that she made when she was literally a completely different person
Know when to take a step back and let her cool off retard

>>32020094
she is a "completely different person" right now too then?

>>32020499
she got aho ked back into the correct state but that kind of transition will involve emotional whiplash almost by definition
She probably is still trying to mentally reconcile with why she was mad about the DMs despite nothing in her actual personality justifying such an emotions. Of course when actively confronted by it she'd likely have a freak out

>>32020920
I get her mental state being different now due to a multitude of factors
but when I remember that if this was rusia she very likely never would've knowingly hurt me this way it makes a very special place in my heart hurt

https://youtu.be/fRX0OgfVQqw
Typical thread poster

>>32023070
Shondo is so based it's unreal.

I do appreciate the fact that she acknowledged that even the people that sent schizo DMs had their heart in the right place and must have loved her enough to send her those messages. Yes this situation could have been handled better. Be glad that no clip/drama nigger took advantage of the situation.

I WILL love this woman until the day I die.

https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1564567580375130115
Mike...

But I want to call her Mi-chan too...

>>32037812
You can call her that if you're an anti

>>32037848
Kusoneko gets to call her that and she doesn't tell him to stop.

>>32037884
Then he could kill and replace him instead

>>32039087
i really thought that was something else in the middle right

send some love to wife please

man I get depressed whenever she brings up her suicide attempt

>>32040850
I thought you guys said that was a schizo rrat and that she never even tried. Which one is it?

>>32040962
Who tf said it was a schizo rrat? Everyone knows it almost happened.

>>32040962
Who told you it was a rrat?? She mostly talked about it in members only stuff and even then it’s not something that people like to talk about…

How about stop replying to the anti begging for information?

>>32041069
>>32041073
She told korekore to leak what she said if she died, and her attempting to kill herself would be a step towards that. Multiple anons said her trying to kill herself has to be a schizo rrat because she would never say that to korekore if she was actually thinking of dying.
So it was true all along and she wanted it to leak.

>32041204
Wrong incident you're reffering to faggot but go ahead with your rrats.

>>32041266
It's the same incident.

>>32041300
No it isn't, the thing you're referring to happened months earlier.

>>31989942
This is for the people in this thread and also mikechan right now

>>32041365
It's all the same incident, dumbo. Did she somehow unsay the things she said back then meaning if she kills herself in the future he won't leak what she said?

>>32041429
It's better to report anti posts rather than reply.
Meidos will ignore bait threads, but they're actually pretty good at removing obvious troll attempts in the generals.
A shame there's no "lack of medication" report option.

Uh oh. Looks like the menhera is kicking in

>>32041204
you're a fucking idiot. that part specifically is bullshit.
what everyone is referring to is her suicide attempt on the 19th(the day of her termination and the ominous twitcast). She only did the attempt after she lost everything important to her

>>32041884
What part is bullshit? You can read the messages that she sent. She even addressed one of the messages from the same screenshot in her '"correction" so it's real and directly connected to what happened.

>>32041968
that has nothing to do with her suicide attempt which you claim to be a rrat

>もちろん叩かれすぎて裏でも様々なひどいことがあって精神的に追い詰められました。
>今が好きだよ、仕事も。過去に戻ってもきっと今の道を選んでる。
>Latest sab tweet
I’m telling you she was abused at Cover. They probably harassed her about her past niconico life behind the scenes.

>>32042135
And not a single holo helped her

Fucking Sab leakers.....fuck you all.

>>32042194
This is pretty much as close to as she can get to saying it outright (which would get her in trouble)

Twitcast

>>32042135
we all know she was abused by management. also stop leaking sab tweets you braindead biggot

>>32042319
>>32042694
I honestly forgot the second tweet was a sab tweet, sorry.

>>32042460
I woke up just in time, she started almost immediately after I woke up and liked some of her posts

Can someone give a tiny summary of the twitcast later?
This one is public, please.

I wish our summaryanon was back...

I guess the sub tweets settle the argument from yesterday with the guy going on a crusade against her new workplace

>>32044332
Also all the people that said she would go back if she could can shut up forever now.

>>32044332
The Twitcast is a blessing to all fans ears btw.

>>32044741
in what way?

>>32044786
Says she loves us, loves foreign fans a lot, talking about working with 5chan to get IPs to sue antis on that site among other things. Good cast though.

>>32044501
She said she wanted to keep her Rushia account if she could

>>32045066
That's not the same as going back to hololive.

>>32044930
wait what?

>>32044930
See? Despite everything that happened here, we're still loved.

>>32044930
Ahh, i had to do something else so i missed most of the cast...

>>32045142
>>32045217
>>32046028
It was essentially a venting stream because of antis.

I’m glad to hear she is comfortable in her current environment and job at least. Even if the past still haunts her

twitcast mengen this time

>>32042694
She abused management

>>32047271
I wish she’d abuse me

>>32046612
Honestly I guess that anon from before who said she fell upward turned out to be right.

>>32047379
That GTA stream was probably the best thing to ever happen to her desu

Sometimes when she starts vague posting, I can't help but get a bit paranoid trying to figure out what the hell she's even trying to allude to.
I'm not the only one, am I?

She was pretty clearly triggered/responding to antis this time anon, dunno what there is to be paranoid about right now

>>32049131
Look, my mind probably just twisted something into some other scenario since I'm on edge as a result of her tweets. Just ignore me

I know it’s not but I do find it a little humorous every Tuesday specifically the past three weeks is when she vaugeposts. She needs to eat a better breakfast on Tuesdays

>>32049684
Mondays man, they suck

It seems she calmed down? Love does heal everything.
>>32049131
I do get a bit anxious too when i wake up and i see i have 5 or more notifications from her sab but everything is usually fine when i decypher what she's talking about. I really need to pick up on my japanese...

>>32049801
newfag here, where's her sab?

Anyone know what she means by going to a salon?

>>32050111
do you not know what a salon is?

What the hell is a sab tweet? enlighten me please

>>32045066
I wish those fuckers would of given her Rushia. Wtf are they gonna do with the avatar, twitter, youtube and so forth? Fucking retards yagoo is. She has well over paid for that model and then some so it should be hers.

>>32050192
Idk I thought it was code for something.
>>32050216
Her “sub” Twitter account. It’s linked on her Mikeneko debut video. But it’s locked so you won’t be able to join.

>>32049986
If you're not inside already you can't get in so don't worry about it.

One of these days, I hope she can stop vagueposting and finally tell us...well, whatever it is that she wants to tell us.
It'd be good for us, but I also feel like it'd take a huge burden off of her shoulders.

>>32050227
Honestly they should sell that to her or VShojo. It’s not like they’re using it anymore anyway. If not all the accounts at least give the IP and models.

>>32050308
she shows her nails every now and then. I think last time they had golden swirls on them, I liked that one a lot

>>32050227
JP companies are extremely overprotective of their IPs, there's no way she would have gotten the rights to Rushia without some kind of legal battle. Not to mention, the typical JP conservative corporate response to anything remotely damaging to appearances has always been to bury the source 10 feet under and pretend it doesn't exist

I am so in love with her holy shit

The Coverschizo may have had a point.

>>32050736
It's been 6 months. Let it go.

>>32050736
The only thing Coverschizo cared about back when it looked like she might break up with us was how he could figure out a way to blame Cover for that situation.
Are you sure that guy has any sort of "point"?

>>32050192
>>32050308
it's clearly code for Towa

Wish I could've listened to the casts but I was at work, seeing all those tweets fly by without being able to really see what it was about was hell
Looks like she calmed down, so that's good.
I love her

>>32050812
Mikeneko just spoke about it today

>>32050925
she was ranting off in the cast, but seemed peppy. was able to laugh off stuff here and there which seems like a good thing

We love Vshojo here.

>>32051186
a cat is fine too...

>>32051067
Yes

>>32050915

>>32050227
this is a retarded take. Do you have brain dame sir?

>>32051436
SEX! LOVE! SEX! LOVE!

Me in this pic

>>32051404
I fucking love nyanners

>>32037884
Mi-tan isn't mi-chan for the same reason mi-nyan isn't
>kusoneko bait
>lacking insight
this is what you get for not being in the bunker and not seeing the private communications compilation

>>32052039
Good for you, double pink cat lover

>>32052231
WE fucking love Talent Freedom™

>>32052081
tan is literally just an even more cutesy way of saying chan so yes mi-tan is mi-chan

Talent freedom is a lie

Vshojo good company.

While looking at some of discussion threads of Mike i found out that there's some slang expression in japanese (レスバ) which comes from レスポンス and バトル, so response battle, and it refers to this kind of heated endless threads on twitter of people replying to each other.
Anyways, i was saying this because DeepL decided that since it sounds similar it should be translated to "lesbian" and i was perplexed to why this dude "didn't mean to be a leasbian" or "try to lesbian" and why Mike found necessary too to deny "being a lesbian".

I honestly think she needs to stop using her main Mike twitter acc as much, stick to the Nazuna acc and the sab

>>32052860
Mike is a boomer that mistakenly thinks personal acc is separate from professional acc.

>>32052860
I agree. The antis barely touch her on Nazuna. It’s really only on main Mike where this happens to this extent