/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

i hate to say it but haachama has fallen off big time since the schizo arc thing

>>31870133
Shalome, Uto, Artemis

>>31870133
Haachama and Ame are good examples. I like both though.

>>31870133
Anyone who made the switch to twitch

Literally who tier

>>31870187
>>31870258
Blame management. Haato was making waves but corpo fags in JP are scared of menhera shit especially for their precious seiso companies.

Kronii

>>31870456
Haachama was a retard. Only mistake management made was not cutting that off before it started.

>>31870133
Iofi and Hana

>>31870867
What happened with Hana? I remember seeing clips of her everywhere in 2020.

>>31870456
acting like a schizo is not a long-term game plan, it's gimmicky

shuba

>>31870456
Honestly kudos to the management, that shit has overstayed its welcome.

aqua

>>31870511
TOO SOON

>>31870511
how? putting aside the upcoming DBD collab with the males

>>31870867
Iofi was literally never not the least popular Hololive member

>>31870133

>fell off

>>31873083
She was the most important figure on the Council for a long time, now she is fighting with Bae for the last place, her transformation played a big role in this,
now she has 1/3 of the viewers she had at the beginning

>>31870133
Eilene.

>>31870133
haachama. the redditfication ruined her. I miss haato

YUA!…

>>31870133
Yua

>>31871561
It hurts. Immensely.
She went from my one of my most watched vtubers to basically never streaming. She seriously needs to stop paying attention to antis and only care about the good in her life, she's going to end up causing herself a full-on mental breakdown, probably on the level of making her quit. Sadly I've seen this too many times with people I watched.
Mimi quitting hurt hard. Mimi...

>>31870133
>>31873879

>>31870133
You already posted her. React content is fucking trash.

>>31870133
every chuuba will have periods of soaring like a cryptocurrency shitcoin and then slowly bleeding off afterwards.

>>31881875
Why did Pikamee do it?
I used to watch her streams quite a lot in the past but the react content is just so boring.
If she atleast would react to something remotely interesting I might have stayed.
Also the moe model nerfed her quite a bit for me. A shame really, pika is a nice girl...

>>31873418
Sana...

>>31881632
mimi-chan....

>>31870187
Self induced. The things she did in the past year to intentionally sabotage herself make a long list. Now she's changed her mind and wants back on the wagon. Hard to regain the favor of the Almighty Algorithm after scorning its blessings.

Nekomiya Hinata
Trashbag-wearing armpit loli cat. Pure sex. Just bleeding subs now

>>31870133
Pink cat, I hope she graduates to Gensokyo soon

>>31882903
Holy fuck I loved her when she collabed with Marine and Pekora.
She could have had it all if she just was a holo member.
Literally the best cunny design, cute voice, gaming skills, good humor and a personality that would have mixed well with a ton of holos.
She had everything that it takes to become a top 5 vtuber.
I still have dreams about Yagoo saving her and making her join Gen 0.
So much wasted potential it makes me cry.

>>31883521
Fuck man. Fucking yes.
But yeah, just hold on and hope she and her team does something that will catch on again, like her godly PUBG plays then

>>31876908
She did that to herself

>>31882657
she wants a piece of that normalfag audience. She should just unleash her inner lolicon if she's not larping though

Can't think of anyone that fits the bill more than Rosemi. The boring numberfagging out of the way first
>even well after Ethyria debuted, Rosemi was one of the girls in NijiEN with the better CCVs, only Selen and Pomu consistently out numbered her despite Rosemi having the lowest subs of her wave
>she slowly started to reach the 3k realm, now is mostly stuck in 2.5k on good days, can be as low as 1.4k when she's not doing anything interesting - fanbase is comprised of mostly newfags, only her the most pathetic paypigs and her discord groomers watch her consistently
Now, as for why this happened
>debuts, has a very positive disposition, plays the innocent, naive seiso girl very well, has very cute, almost autistic mannerisms
>content is very varied, but she played the games she wanted to play and did creative stuff for fans
>all this while she was working full time, and often she'd do guerillas to spoil fans because it seemed that streaming was therapeutic for her
>hypes up her quitting her job like no tomorrow, promises better quality creative streams, longer game streams, had already created this sort of backlog of games she wanted to try
>was mostly transparent with fans where she could be, all her zatsudan were basically about work and family life, confessed to fans she wants to rid herself of the seiso persona she built for herself because she'd rather be seen as approachable, literally told chat she only swears around people she's comfortable with and that she does swear quite a lot with friends
>nearing mid March 2022, when she was supposed to quit, it is obvious she started to stretch herself too thin and burn out - she had been promoted in her job a while back and her streaming/working schedule was so hectic she often stream until around 1 AM her time and then she still worked on stuff afterwards, I'm guessing she averaged like 4 hours of sleep in the weeks leading up to her quitting
>she quits, she celebrates, fans are excited
>a while back before quitting she organized a collab with GirlDM, Ironmouse and Pikamee, it went very well, and she asked fans it they'd like to see this sort of thing again, say yes
>people thought this meant Rosemi would be more proactive in initiating and organizing collabs because she'd always been a very solo stream-intensive person
>as it turns out, after quitting, her content went to shit, she did a roughly a month of low effort collabs where she didn't really speak with people
>the girls in NijiEN love her, yet she always blamed being shy for not collabing one on one with them, but that wasn't a problem for the guys (who she said was worried they'd bring in "guy humor") and to date has more solo collab with males than with females
>backlog is still untouched, gave really shitty excuses for not playing them (said she wanted to stream OoT and MM, then said if she hasn't because if she played a Zelda game she would "feel" she has to play them all)
>no more creative content, all she has now are low effort handcam streams and a shitty ARG no one but her autistic, hand-clapping audience of mentally retarded manchildren give a fuck about

>>31884321
I seriously can't believe you aren't tired of this after like five fucking months

>>31884697
I seriously can't believe that's all your fucking limp-dicked responses to facts. I seriously can't believe you still watch her content after it went down the toilet so badly.

Can't wait to see Pikaschizo seethe even more

>>31882794
I'm glad she at least still streams, but so much League kills me. League is painfully boring to watch.
And Hashiba is there on the rare occasion.

>>31884321
Oh there you are, thought you killed yourself after her outfit got a shitton of CCV

>>31885764
Are you a newfag? What outfit reveal doesn't get a shitton of views? And who would kill themselves over that ugly ass outfit that her mama didn't work on lmao?
You rosecucks really do have the strangest ways of coping when other people righly shit on your lazy whore.

Chammers
Ayame
Nyanners
Hana Machia

>>31886191
>Ayame
Her streams are fucking cultural events at this point. She makes more money per minute than any other Hololive talent.

>>31873418
It's not about being the least popular.
I know English is hard and you're trying your best, tohugh. Keep it up!

>>31870133
matsuli...

>>31886266
"She makes more money per minute"
Yes, its exactly one right thing in your whole sentence.
And not because of Vtubing.

>>31870187
>Do schizo bit one time
Hey, this is a bit fun
>Do schizo bit for an entire week
Ummm, ok, still kinda fun but it should stop soon
>Do schizo bit for an entire month
Just stop already
>Do schizo bit for over a year + slow down streaming due to school
Just graduate already and join Vshit if that's what you're gonna do from now on

>>31889544
I don't know what rrat you're pedaling but Ayame objectively and numerically makes more money per minute than any other streamer in Hololive. She fucks off for 2 months, comes back for 2 hours and makes 10 thousand dollars off of that.

>>31871561
Aqua is bigger than ever.

>>31871072
she didn't want to be typecast as "that cute girl who plays boomer shooters and makes cute sounds" or "that girl with the cool dad. are there any plans to have them on soon?". she chose to debuff herself by playing what she wanted (FFXIV, PSO2, etc) regardless of the kind of audience she had attracted from those inclines to filter them and have an audience that watches her for her, regardless of numbers. she's much happier now than she was.
waiting for someone to chime in with "THAT SPOILED BITCH KILLED ID" like she was the golden child that was going to force her branch mates to start speaking in English and only play buff games instead of doing stuff like Cia spamming shitty horror games non-stop for months on end

>>31891571
That's great from an hours worked perspective, but shit from an overall money generation standpoint.

>>31882903
Didn't see fake all her FPS gameplay?

You posted her.
Pika fell hard after hooking up with Kson.

>>31870133
clout ≠ revenue

>>31886948
>I know English is hard and you're trying your best, tohugh

>>31896154
How many times have you said this, pikaschizo?

>>31896886
Sorry Im not the rent free individual you seem to be looking for anon.
Pika's decline can be traced back to Kson and that's a fact.

>>31870133

>>31897192

>>31870133
Mocca

>>31881840
Literally who?

>>31870133

>>31870133
pic related actually has a new channel and still streams but barely anyone knows about it

Kamiko Kana

>>31882903
Her career died when things moved from edited videos to live streaming. It was pretty obvious her content was either very selectively edited or someone else was playing because she point blank refused to stream any FPS live which made it quite obvious she wasn’t as good as we were led to believe. Shame really because she’s quite cute and funny.

>>31896154
I always see this take here but they never explain why.

>>31896154
>>31897192
>makes bold claim
>refuses to explain when asked about it
Yep, seems right.

This thread is making me realize how important Pikamee's original design was to her success. She's so forgettable as generic anime avatar 1265.

>>31899703
This is the only correct answer. Her fall from grace is the stuff of legend

>>31870133
Pikamee is where she's always been. Voms was ever a powerhouse group.

>>31884321

>>31883299
Pink Cat is living her best life right now.

>>31889401
Dunno, restart arc so far is great
https://youtu.be/L_8OGhhEwCo

>>31902421
He's about to write a 100 page essay as a response

>>31884321
>to date has more solo collab with males than with females
not gonna read all of that but just this bit tells me it's all bullshit

>>31876745
dude dont lie to me, last time i checked fauna is the 2nd less subbed. or you just talked about the views and by that i believe you. like holy fuck her solo stream is boring as fuck its just a matter of time until the novelty of her model worn out and her fans will moves to more fertile ground and become sapling.

>>31870133
Gura, most of her subs are dead and she lost her viral mainstream factor

>>31876745
She just almost hit 20k on a karaoke, those are close to gura numbers

>>31870133
Pikamee kinda reached peak indie. VOMs is not corporate, or have its advertising power. She's not "fell off" just stagnant

>>31901382
It was a combination of the avatar changes and doing mostly react stuff in Twitch. And while she does still do collabs with other VOMs members, her content honestly feels like she is drifting more and more apart from them.

>>31899703
Came to post this, I remember she almost made it to 1k viewers in yt

>>31870195
I remember the daily jannie mandated shartemis threads, now the guy is streaming to like 20 people on twitch when I saw his name pop up like a few days ago in the recommended channels section.

>>31899703
>>31901824
I legit forgot she existed damn.
Man I remember when she had like 20k subs and was playing doom.
Then she went full menhera and just ghosted her youtube community to stream on twitch.
Wtf was her problem? Is she atleast happier now?
She could have been a huge indie but I guess becoming a 2view was her goal in the end.

>>31904979
Artemis has to the biggest case where a chuuba has a ton of momentum pre-debut and then just nosedives after debut.

>>31905122
Her problem was that she's a terrible person trying to act like a seiso child-like maiden and the cracks started to show. She's not happier now, but at least she doesn't have to hide how awful she is anymore. Maybe that's more important to her

>>31893372
Imagine speaking a language in an at the time pretty untapped market because of some werid personal hang ups. I don’t even know why hana became a corporate streamer at this point because it seems like she wants to stay as small as possible

>>31904681
It seems she's doing less react content as of late, when she started doing it almost half of her streams were react streams, while now her last react streams were like 2 weeks apart.
Also I can understand the sentiment about the model cause it's REALLY different to the one we were used to, but at the same time people forget that commissioning that model was her only option to have more variety since the only other way of getting more outfits is waiting for GYARI to feel like making them, and even then it seems GYARI is not into (or good at) making more interesting outfits, so even if they get a new outfit from him, it will most likely be casual clothes #3.

>>31905618
>Imagine speaking a language in an at the time pretty untapped market because of some werid personal hang ups.
What the fuck was this google translated from?

>>31905618
Was Hana at the time the first "EN" vtuber with a decent following?
I can't remember any other vtuber that spoke mainly english back then.

>>31905734
Do chuubas really care that much about new outfits? As a viewer, I couldn't care less about them

>>31870187
This. Even more evident that she had to do a lingerie stream out of desperation and even her fans shut her the fuck down.

Kagura Mei
She leaned too hard into the disgusting gremlin bit and repulsed everyone

>>31903336
It's not, but >>31902421 and >>31902698 I don't expect rosecucks to have actual responses to the facts that are repeatedly presented to them. I mean they think Rosemi is the best vtuber ever because she's cute. They have no metric or standard whatsoever.

>>31905734
Right now VOMS has their own popup Cafe for the next two weeks so that's what's taking up most of his time. After that will probably be 3D

>It's not, but >>31902421 # and >>31902698 (You) # I don't expect rosecucks to have actual responses to the facts that are repeatedly presented to them. I mean they think Rosemi is the best vtuber ever because she's cute. They have no metric or standard whatsoever.

>>31906635
The guy definitely works hard for the group, but he's still just one guy, it's no one's fault really, it's also the reason why VOMS still counts as an indie group despite what obviously underage posts will say.

>>31870456
I got bored of the shizo arc well before it got canned.

>>31870557
>>31871085
>>31871364
>>31907423
normalfags

>>31870133
Not in terms of plain numbers but relative popularity position in the company, Sora used to be consistently in the Top 3 alongside Fubuki and Aqua as late as Fall 2019. Gen3. Coco and Covid completely upended the entire vtuber landscape and while all 3 have fallen from the ranks of the 1st Army of 2019; Sora's fall has been by far the largest as she only just recently crossed 1 million subs at last and her CCV is regularly only one further drop away from being alongside Roboco, Mel and Aki.

She will always be Dai-Senpai to her peers but amongst the fanbase she fell all the way from the mountaintop down to base camp in 3 years.

>>31870133
Pikamee was lucky through circumstance as being like a proto-EN in that she could actually speak English (yet was Japanese/under Japanese management) during that window where HoloJP was actually pretty popular in the West yet HoloEN didn't exist yet.

She became much more ordinary once the demand started to get filled in, but what's odd is she seemed kind of oblivious to a lot of stuff like the ugly-ass kaiju outfit. She collabed with Ina and yet wore that to the stream which actually-was a big debuff I think. If that's what she wants to do and Gyari just doesn't care either way then OK, but it's just kind of odd to see.

She actually had a really good/cute outfit with Voms Black but last I checked mostly uses that isekai loli outfit all the time. Which is OK I guess but is kind of exaggerrated early-00s looking uguu more like as a joke outfit, rather than something you could/should stably use all the time.

>>31904927
All the Fujos fucking love Noir what the fuck are you talking about, Anon? Those annoying bitches won't shut the fuck up about him. They seem like cool guys but holy shit the fanbase is crazy.

>>31903510
I have been hearing about the fact that Kronies are waiting for karaoke for 3 months now so a lot of people have come, her normal numbers are at the bae level

>>31903368
What do subscriptions represent? Cali has over 2 million subs and recently had 2.5k people in the game

>>31870133
Pika still enjoyable at least in clips but old Pika with her old voice was soul.

>>31870133
Koopa....so much wasted potential and she fucked up.

>>31909012
Playing debuff games at awful times will fuck over anyone. As a counterpoint, Mori just had a rust guerilla at an absolutely ass time right after collating with Monarch, so everyone in north America just wanted to sleep. It peaked at over 10k ccvs.

>>31909166
>what dick does to a mf

>>31870133
Miguel Catto.

>>31905369
It's almost like people were immediately put off by the tranny voice and lack of charisma.

>>31905369
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that he was trying to pass off for a woman.

>>31909091
>people still don’t know that the old voice was forced

>>31898648
The only good answer.