/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31867047
Giant enemy crab!

>>31867047
Finally some good fucking hologra.

>>31867047

>>31867047
Guras voice acting was pretty good and Inas was...per usual

>>31867047
an hour earlier than usual?

Ina shit again for voice acting

I can't take Ina dubbing in her singsong voice anymore, help

>>31867262
Uooh

Chloe has joined Umisea?

>>31867047
cringe

>>31867276
>>31867291
I mean it's not great but definitely much better than in other videos

Ina has improved.

>>31867456
Yes

>>31867047
Someone save EN.
Theoretically speaking who's our best gal from EN to voice act?

>>31867047
GIVE ME DUCK AND CHICKEN

>>31868097
Kronii...

>>31867550
the more experience the better

>>31867047
>no sakamata

passed

I'm sorry Tako destination but can you please act?
She seems so underwhelmed on all her lines, there's bad acting i.e: "The room, Star Wars" that can turn out great and then there's acting badly, which is never good.

It's hologra i'm not expect her to win an Oscar for her performance or anything but I wish she'd put in even 20% effort on these lines.

>>31868242
Nobody cares enough about this unit to make it official

>>31867047
It's a shame they had to ruin Hologra for this. It was nice to still have one good thing.

>>31867047
WHY IS THE ENGLISH DIALOGUE SO SHIT
WHY WONT THEY JUST MAKE THEM SPEAK JAPANESE LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE

>>31868949
Gura's 1st line is literally in Japanese why are JSL like this?

>>31868668
She's literally there!

>>31869049

>>31867047
An actual Hologra with EN?!

>>31867994
lmao, #1 vtuber in the world and her cute dope cohort are regulated to the background, whereas that smelly bum orca is up front.

>>31869582
They should stay in the back of the bus until they learn to act.

I'm going to get so much mileage out of this image.

>>31867047
WAIT HOLY SHIT
GURA AND INA ARE BOTH DEAD??!?!??!?!?

>>31868242
Waiting on Reine's 3d so the three of them can fuck in their Hologra debut. Or at least Reine and Kiara fuck and Subaru commentates.

>>31869582
I hate this. First apparence of umisea everyone was equal.
Now even in the Hologra episode Gura and Ina just dissapear midway through and they put them in the background?!
I've never seen get that kind of treatement in any other unit...

>>31869823

>>31867047
Ina's back

>>31868791
And yet it's the only organic and real one (Turducken that is, Holotori is as much a stretch as Umisea).

>>31870039
Ooh, so close.

>>31869049
Sakamata is cute!

>>31869882
Yes

Next it's the episode with Mori in hell.

>>31870282
Faggot lol

Chloe felt phoned in. Everyone and their mother saw her joining Umisea a mile away but I thought she could be integrated better.

>>31868097
Gura

>>31869882
They're no longer needed now that they have Chloe. From now on UmiUmi is JP only!

uoh

>>31870282
ffaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGG!!!!!!!!

>>31867047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2wpIeZDrHE
Ina Horrible (and Hilarious) Voice Acting Compilation

>>31869915
>I've never seen get that kind of treatement in any other unit...
The other units were able to act and speak Jap.

>>31870108
>SMOK
>OKFAMS
>SNOT
>CHAD

>>31867047
i like it, chloe is a good addition to the group

>>31869915
Ina fucking sucks and she should have as little screen time until she can voice act without sounding like an english learner.

>>31870539
ToT

>>31867262
>that is her "passed out" pose
You just know

>>31870091
Hmmm

Part 2 when?

>>31871289
Soon

>>31870362
Chloe, Gura and Ina all phoned it in. Marine put them to shame, as expected of a professiona- wait, that doesn't even excuse Gura. And why aren't Ina and Gura speaking Japanese? Honestly, were it up to me, I never would've greenlit craftsmanship this shoddy.

>>31871745

>>31871745
marine schizo

>>31867276
What are you talking about? Her acting is way better now

>>31867550
that was a fucking lie

>>31868949
Gura speaks English: REEEEEEEE
Gura speaks Japanese: ReEEEEEE
There's no satisfying antis lol

>>31869582
This is not like youtube who plays favourite anon.
Stop asking for more scene time to popularity.

>>31869882
They're pulling a Marvel MCU lol

>>31867262
I want to sniff and lick her underarms while she is passed out

Ina acting is surprisingly better in this one.
Also lol at antis trying to stir shit up without watching the video

>>31869582
>Japanese company
>Everything's in Japanese
>Group is made up of 3 hugely popular JP members
Yeah why are they up the front, that's so weird

>>31868097
Unironically? It's Kronii. She has a pedigree in voice acting. Well to he fair Grar did too, but not as extensive as the clock

>>31872352
>Chloe
>Popular
No. She only leeches No. 1 member in Hololive and No. 1 member in Hololive Japan.

>>31867195
And an El Shaddai reference for the JP fans

>>31867262
just like in my animes! (hentai)

Can someone explain why the English lines sound so weird? It's like the tone is completely different once Gura and Ina are gone.

>>31867047
nice crab game reference

>>31872605
Lack of direction and training perhaps. Gura is a completely different person and sounds forced. Ina sounds like she is reading off sentences without context.

>>31868097
https://litter.catbox.moe/ahe5o8.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGCIz5_0Jhw&list=LL
https://youtu.be/ofY3afrMYjs

and it's part of the reasons why she's the #1

>>31871186
Ina's a lovecraftian horror. There should be no problem at all with not having her talk at all, just being in the background and tentacle raping everyone else in the vicinity.

>>31872315
>Ina acting is surprisingly better in this one.
Honestly, it is. Still terrible, but not as terrible as before.
Kronii's in Canada. Kronii is also a gook. Why can't Ina get some fucking VA lessons from Kronii?

>>31871186
>Ina fucking sucks
yeah, me

>>31868097
Kronii
Gura

>>31872605
Generally japanese comedy is campy, so they are over-acting on purpose. Well, Gura is. Inners is doing her best. She sounds better than last year though.

>>31872605
Because it's cross countries collab, so directing is pretty difficult.
It will be better if they met in Japan but Japan still saying NO to foreigners

EN whores ruin everything as always

>>31873403
Don't the jp girls usually record their lines at home and send them in anyway?

>>31873621
It's easier for them meet in person, but I'd guess it's also because the audio techs are Japanese.

>>31871030
>>31871186
Did you newfags never watched early Hologra?
Some of the talents like Shion or Pekora were on par with Ina's terrible acting.
Sometimes even worse than her.
Everybody became somewhat decent because of years of experience + because Cover literally paid the JP branch voice acting lessons.
It's retarded to expect them all to naturally be good at VA.

>>31873526
>>/jp/

>>31873621
No, that will cause problem due to different mic and setup. This is why people go to 1 studio to record them.
With this hologra, Ina and Gura went to a studio with list of settings and everything to match the JP hologra.
If you want to see how shitty at home recording is, just watch Hunt the Freeman VA quality.

please no more ens cover, or at least make them speak jp

>>31867047
Ina is such a bad voice actor and boring personality. I don't understand how she has any fans other than for her art. She would be a 2view if not for Hololive.

>>31874701
It's irrelevant if they watched it or not, if they don't understand Japanese, even at a very basic "こんぼんわ!げんきですか?天気がどうでしたか?" level, then they're not going to be able to tell if the VA work is good or bad.

>>31873621
>>31875075
Here's IHE discussing how bad the game was and you can hear how bad the voice quality was.

>>31875334
Redditors are not known for having taste

Why does Ina sound like she's speaking through her sinuses?

>>31869756
Based

>>31872507
anon, the superchat numbers speak for itself

>>31867047
Gura is so fucking cute

I swear if they put Kiara with Mori together in their "debut" hologra...

>>31872315
>saying ina is bad at voice acting is now considered to be anti behaviour
i know takokeks are fragile but this is on a whole new level

>>31867047
A dying cancer patient would sound more lively than Ina

>>31877452
Old Takamori is back on the menu baby

Holy wow Ina and Gura can't act at all

>>31877452
ame ame ameee....

>>31877631
You know there's improvement, don't need to be a tako to notice it.
You're here just to be contrarion, to keep typical hate toward Ina and other livers you hate
But hey, nice deflection attempt for Mongolian basket weaving message board level.

>>31878396
NTA but this is significant cope

>>31878396
>improvement
She went from corpse to deathbed. It's an improvement, but she's still terrible.

That aside, part of the problem is how stiff the English is. It's too direct and "Japanese" in tone.

>>31874701
Show me the episodes where Shion, Pekora or the otehrs are bad. Not doubting you, I just wanna see.

>>31870492
Chloe knows all the english UmiSea will ever need

>>31871090
remove okfams cuz ayame is nowhere to be found, at this point the rest are the only sub group left that are actually really close to each other.

>>31878561
Sure Anon.
https://youtu.be/4nE1Q_lawyw
https://youtu.be/xHWN_nIHbU8
Early Hologra was something else

>>31878976
>30 FPS
>delayed reactions
>awkward pacing
>japanese """""humor""""" falling flat
God damn, you can tell they were still learning the ropes back then. It's crazy how much they've improved between then and now

>>31879453
To be fair, the first one is thinly veiled fetish material

>>31867047
wow!
this is exactly as unfunny as I expected it to be!
thanks cover

>>31878976
lol no response from EOP people because they're too stupid to notice bad acting in different language.

>>31878976
Hot

>>31870539
ban pants

>>31872605
ESL writers are the problem. Writing reflects japanese speech patterns and it doesn't mesh with natural English speakers

Ina's VA does not bothering me.
Gura and Marine is good.
why is Aqua so poor at this

>>31868949
Thanks for letting me know.
That video will remain unclicked

>>31879520
At least it wasn't the Ringo episode...

>>31880511
I'm glad they moved on to vore content instead.

>>31880588
When's the architecture arc, though

>have 1 hologra for each member of holox, centered around then
>have 2 holoEN debut in the same episode, they leave halfway through
Sad

>>31880844
Wasn't there an episode where Luna got fattened up?

>>31869582
Relegated

>>31881008
>have 2 holoEN debut in the same episode, they leave halfway through
>HoloX member takes their place

I don't get why they insist on blatantly japanese writers writing the english dialogue, putting aside Ina's shitty VA work.
"That child" is not something you say in english

Marine hard carry.

>EN: Wow, EN can't voice act for shit JP is so much better.
>JP: Wow, JP can't voice act for shit EN is so much better.

>>31881331
Their acting isn't great, but having to read an mtl script with no direction definitely makes it worse.

>>31881220
I want to fuck that chil-i dog

>>31881220
>"That child" is not something you say in english
It's a good thing they didn't say that, then.

>>31878396
Keep inhaling copium bro

???

I don't like the addition of Chloe. Umisea was better with just the four of them...

>>31882210
Ina is so fucking flat.

>>31881212
I can't believe Chloe really was the Gura killer after all

>>31875859
Not untill She beats Lamy

I'm curious, are any ID fans annoyed that EN got a Holo graffiti appearance before ID?

>>31886080
There's some mutterings about it but no one really cares that much
Also ID has their own video drama thing so it's not like they are getting hung out to dry

>>31886223
Oh yeah, they did have a thing, now that you mention it.

>>31879520
The second one is too, or at least contains fetish elements.

>>31867047
>I: "Captain!"
>M: "Speak."
>I: "There's something out there!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UjWwMtrETk

>>31881628
Savage. Get rekt "orca".

>>31872605
Japanese scriptwriter.

>>31875561
what?

rape sakamata

I haven't seen hologra in a while but those recent episodes have a pretty good quality, those guys polished their skills after churning out so much.

>>31878976
Not him but thanks Anon.

>>31871797
hot

>>31870091
>spats

>>31872605
HoloGra is written and acted out in a very fast paced, somewhat "out of character" style. The fact that you can actually understand the language this time makes that more obvious.

>>31870091
>They extended her spats
lame

>>31872199
>Marvel Marvel Cinematic Universe

>>31892074
Its more that StarColle outshown Hologra for a while in that department

Ina's improving I guess. Pretty shit episode though

It's HoloGra, as unfunny as usual. Ina improved a lot, despite what the deaf retards in this threads are saying. English/Japanese mix is weird, but whatever.
I hope they won't use Chloe to remove the importance of Gura and Ina. The whole point of that unit was to be half JP/EN. Knowing Clover, I know they will fuck it up.

>>31867047
Kiara is malding so hard right now.

>>31867195
Ooki kanny

>>31867047
Instead of commenting indirectly about the script and voice acting or whatever, let's actually look at the EN lines:
>G: "kara no-?"
>I: Where'd you pick up that Japanese?
>G: Shibuya!

>G: Heh. Check out this cosplayer, trying to keep the setting alive.
This is the only point in the script where I think the "ESL scriptwriting" is noticeably bad, just because I've never heard of "keep the setting alive" as a common idiom and I don't think a native English speaker would have phrased a comment like that
>I: Senchou! There's something out there!
>G: And a kid who's zero percent orca.
I think Gura had the perfect delivery for this line as a short comedic quip

>I: We need to help Chloe...
>G: Aren't *you* gonna do anything?
>I: Sadly, that's just how bosses are.

>G: Oh, so you're gonna ram the ship into it? Cool!
>I: I'll hold it in place for you!

Honestly after reading through the lines like this, I don't think they were written too poorly or awkwardly or "ESL" at all; they even let Gura say "gonna" where foreign translators would probably originally put "going to"
My opinion is the problem with the writing isn't the phrasing of the lines but the choice of dialogue - a lot of the things said by Ina aren't things anybody who's used to watching Ina would expect her to say
I think that's why Ina's delivery comes off as really weird and artificial, not because of "bad voice acting" or anything, just that there's too huge a difference between how Ina talks in her streams versus lines like "Sadly, that's just how bosses are."

Everyone else I think delivers lines in the way you'd expect them to knowing their streams: Marine = high energy loud voice boke, Aqua = soft-voiced tsukkomi/side-character, Gura = cheeky little quips, Chloe = "aho" chara who tries to annoy people by saying "cute-annoying" things like "uso-pyoooon" and "poeeee?"
Ina has a distinct way of speaking in her streams that's kinda like..... sleepy? Her UMISEA clips sound very "awake", that plus her not at least trying to speak in japanese when she's arguably the biggest weeb of the ENs and constantly tries to practice speaking JPs to JPs, makes you think of her UMISEA appearances like "who is this person"

>>31896015
>when she's arguably the biggest weeb of the ENs
Anon. Kiara.

>>31896105
Out of all the things I said that's really the thing you're going to focus on? Ina is obviously one of the biggest weebs out of holo EN

>>31896015
Hey, it's HoloGra. Whole thing is nonsense anyway.
Nips won't care about it since they don't watch streams, they'll just think "Ina cute" and go on with their life.

>>31896291
Oh god you're doubling down, that's funny.

>>31896450
I should have known better than to write a long post in a catalog thread....

I like how Ina and Gura basically got thrown out in return for Chloe. Really activates the almonds.

Chloe isn't really an orca at all either just someone that somewhat cosplays as one.

>>31867047
how can corporate-created content be so consistently cringe all the time?? despite that the very talents involved have hardly ever created anything as cringy on their own

>>31896450
you're an NPC

>>31897569
That's probably cause Chloe was meant to be a cool assassin like character with the orca representing her dangerous nature. But she changed the character to one she's more comforable with and became cute orca, even though she has zero orca features (no tail, no teeth, etc.). Just a glorified orca cosplayer.

>>31898535
How the fuck would anyone look at that character design and think "cool assassin"? Especially since HoloX as a whole is themed as a goofy "secret society" with an incompetent child leader.

>>31898535
>cool assassin like character
Considering very few like Laplus and Luna actually playing to their roles. I won't be surprised in that case. That just means Shylily is the only orca vtuber around in concept at least.

>>31882584
and that's hot

>>31882584
can't wait for her to get petra'd

>>31878976
oh my goodness take me back

>>31873403
Lies because I'm going to be stationed there

>>31882578
UMISEA was never good anon, at least with another somewhat bilingual member they could try to communicate without having to rely on the quietest member to translate everything

I forsee this image getting alot of use

>>31887965
Whoops sorry forget to post the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1fgSY0mAk

>>31902841
>US Military
>Disregarding another country's sovereignty
Story as old as time

>>31908187
oh come on, Japan isn't even a real country, just a settlement around an american military base

>>31867047
Name group what have more forced and boring dynamic than these 4. Don't say HoloDeath they realized they made mistake and one of them graduated.

>>31896015
Why people so scuffed at Hologra bad English when you guys enjoy video game bad lines like "Jill, the master of unlocking" or "You're almost a Jill Sandwich" hell oldfags probably remember the classic "All your base are belong to us"
Also no one complain when Anime use weird English like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FJo_YdXH4

>>31908340
Gamers

>>31872094
https://youtu.be/WGgEFoI9MhE
>Gura speaks Greek: REEEEEEEE

>>31878976
SOVL

>>31908473
>Also no one complain when Anime use weird English like this
People make fun of this shit all the time.

>>31909353
Yeah, but more in a fun banter kind of way. Not in a mean spirited kind of way
I say these are just discord antis and nijibongs doing their typical "Holo bad hurr durr"

>>31867047
Why is Ina so trash at voicing herself, she plays a completely different character in these umisea promotions, who the fuck is giving her this kind of direction, do they not understand what kind of subtle character she is?

>>31909599
I'm a Holofan and I don't think Hologra is good in any language. There's a reason the only popular ones are those with Ayame (rip) making funny noises.

>>31878976
I hate that they try to make Hololive appeal to women and children these days.

>another "forced holoX into something" moment
not even GEN3 got pushed this hard

>>31873403
>Japan still saying NO to foreigners
The issue is literally just Cover not wanting to put the bare fucking minimum of effort into getting them in.

>>31867550
...if you say.

>>31870039
rollan

>>31909639
Anon, Japanese only writers that don't watch streams and are stuck on their 2020 knowledge will never be able to get correctly any of the Holo EN girls' character.
Hell these writers are probably the same that insisted on still writing Haachama as Akai Haato months after she changed her character herself.
This is unfortunately what you get with JP corporate writers.

>>31908473
>native english speaker fails catastrophically at delivering lines in english
>ESLs romanticizing english in every way possible
These are not comparable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saPtg9fdWYg
>Kani Kani Kani Kani Kani
Of all the old episodes they could randomly reference, they pick THIS one.

>>31896015
Oh cool, I have somewhere to vent this now.
>just that there's too huge a difference between how Ina talks in her streams
Yup, it's Umisea shorts 2.0. I won't pretend Ina's a great VA, but between Valkyrie Connect, PSO2, and the CRX videos she isn't outright awful anymore. The problem is that once again, the gang is Marine, Aqua, Gura, (+Chloe) and some girl they grabbed off the street.

Like fuck, the most braindead, lowest-hanging fruit would be to just make her say a pun about something. ANYTHING. It doesn't even have to be a good pun - Ina's said plenty of painfully forced puns herself. But so far the only one who cared enough to write one for UMISEA was Camellia.

>>31875334
Anon… she WAS a 2view before Hololive.

>>31909727
They really expect Holywood level of acting on fun short animations intended to promote idols.

>>31909873
No anon, Japan literally said no. They only allow a small amount if it's:
1. Family member (and it's still difficult)
2. Handpicked tourists in designated group tour (no solo traveler allowed)
3. People with shit ton of money (like Pewdiepie who literally use a private jet and own property in Japan)

they fucking died