/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

what regulars?

fatherless

narcissism, unironically. that isn't even a weird way to moderate your chatroom but why talk about it on twitter

Being a woman.

>By becoming openly communist

It's fine. You shouldn't allow people you wouldn't be friends with to be your fans. The only reason to do that is being hungry for attention or money.

>>31633804
Yeah, communists are known for their purges.

>>31633631
>I purged my community
Good job lass, now you've got none

>>31633631
Not taking being irrelevant well

>>31633631
American

>>31633631

>futa coochie

>>31633631
>communist
>purge

Being a fucking retard. Mana spat in the face of everyone who gave her a semi decent following at the beginning and if there was one chuuba I could graduate it would be her. I'm not even right wing and I think what she did was fucking foolish

>>31633631
It's called choosing your audience.

>>31633631
Socially inept weirdos and parasocial creeps seething ITT

>>31633631
>Futakuchi Mana
Haven't heard that name in a long time

women

Mana is basically worst case scenario Mori. She is the one chuuba I will actively anti

>>31633631
>openly communist
>purged community

>>31633631
>Even if you plan to tell them to stop once you grow
Indies not even once.

Who?

>>31634266
To a communist, you're a jackbooted Nazi thug if you're right of Mao. Unless you're a heccin wholesome corporation.

>>31633631
she can't even break 100 viewers

Staying true to your ideals even if you know it means you will fail. Romanticists would call it idealistic integrity. Realists would call it career suicide. I just think she's mentally retarded.

>>31633631
>communist
>uses twitter and discord
Icky nerds are bad, but surveillance capitalism is A-OK! Hail corporate!

Also, WHO?

Is "vibing with my regulars" code for "getting groomed by Discord trannies"?

>>31633631
>openly political chuuba
does this fucking retard not know why most people got into chuubas in the first place?

>>31634748
materialists are ontologically retarded

>>31633631
Isn't this basically what happened to Snuffy?

It's called "cope." They never caught on with a wider audience so they pretend they've "curated" a small audience. It's also crab bucket mentality to try and stop anyone from becoming popular in a way they don't approve.

>>31634655
Dumb fucking cunt who advertised herself here, we gave her support then she revealed herself to be an annoying twitter commie. People who complain about Mori have no idea how much worse a chuuba can be

>>31633631
It's mental retardation.

For newfags:
She marketed herself as a metal chuuba, we even had a thread for her debut. Her singing was ok and she gained a decent following, mostly from /here/. And then, one day, for some fucking reason she decided to go full political, losing most of her fanbase and fading into irrelevancy.

>>31634854
I like Mori because she's a fan of Ghost. It's the twitter, cgl, and jaypee trannies that are seething at her

>>31634821
Wait a minute what happened with Snuffy

>>31634854
Real question: where do all these communists come from? I've never met a single person in the real world who comes within a stone's throw of Marxism. The closest I've seen is full bore socialist welfare state.

Imagine thinking interpersonal level communication with fans is a good thing to do in the first place

>>31633631
I try not to number-shame but this sounds like 2view cope, its convenient that no one watches when your personality is shit

>>31634961
Mori is overhated honestly, she needs to focus more on Hololive but she was really really good during the summer of COVID and pre Council, stopped watching her for a bit though so I don't know how she's been doing besides her Twitter debacle

>>31634994
Literally Twitter. From what I can tell the online variant are all a disgusting hivemind, knew one in person at college and he allegedly also preyed on minors

>>31634994
>where do all these communists come from?
they are terminally online western degenerates who'd get shot in any communist shithole.
I hope she goes to mainland china and gets her organs harvested.

>>31635086
I think she can be good, he zatsu skills are actually pretty good, it's just that she has the personality of a piece of stale toast during collabs and gaming streams.

>>31634940
All Metal Bands are commies wtf why are you even surprised. Bands from Punk, Metal and even Goth are all Commie supporters

>>31635159
Collab streams are often my least favorite unless the chemistry is just off the charts, otherwise I prefer solo streams

>>31635086
she can't shut up about Adam fucking Sandler in 2000 + 22 I think the hate is deserved

>>31634994
Zoomers, mainly. Too angry at the world and obsessed with the idea of the world being unfair so they latch onto these ideals at complete face value. Especially so with terminally online zoomers, they tend to think alike and they are quite large in numbers.
Also doesn't help that there's a 5view twitch fleshtuber that larps as a commie despite that he's actually grifting hardcore

>>31635190
To add to this >>31635190 she said she was vegan in her debut. We should have seen it coming.

What function does a vtuber have in a communist society

>>31633631
It's called common sense. Eav is a girl league streamer. Just because she puts herself in front of the camera, doesn't mean that she is your girlfriend. People will now say that I'm a seething roastie but I'm a complete piece of shit when it comes to girls, and even I am aware of this. You idiots need to stop living in dreamland thinking any of these hens actually give a fuck about you, no matter how much you donate.
Also, my sisters friend got into streaming and got some creeps hanging out in her chat (not a vtuber), you have to understand that these girls are TERRIFIED of potential stalkers / schizos that will end up on their doorstep, even if theres less than 1% chance that it will happen.
Imagine your sister or whoever, someone female close to you, getting a bunch of parasocial creeps and you already know where that is going because you know how those communities work. What would you say to her?
>No, no, just keep pandering to lunatics and dont ever say that you have a boyfriend
Bullshit. Cut the schizos loose asap. People that wanna stay for the entertainment can stay.
You can still fall in love with a streamer which is normal (happened to me a bunch of times) but dont act like a fucking creep because nothing good will come out of it.

>>31635279
Fertilizer

>>31634994
People who unironically are so sheltered and uneducated they have no idea where food comes from.
https://twitter.com/adamkotsko/status/1561367698587750400

>>31635279
public onahole

>>31634266
She lost "fans" like (You). Nothing of value was lost.

>>31635279
these kinds of people are literally that tweet about being an "anime appraiser" in a communist society

>>31635253
Same. Alone, she can be good. In collabs, she's very bland, mainly because she has very little charisma and therefore just blends into the backgrounds of collabs, especially painful if it's just a 2-person collab.

>>31635279
depends on what communism we're talking about

>>31633631
One day she’ll reveal that it was all an elaborate trolling act
I refuse to believe there is actually a vtuber that fits the menhera archetype as perfectly as her

>>31635280
Anon, this isn't about the whole unicorn debate, it's the concept of acting all high and mighty over purging your viewerbase because you proudly do political grandstanding online when the reason why most people watch chuubas is to escape reality and shit like that.

>>31635190
Dave Mustaine is a neocon
Varg Vikernes is absolutely not a communist
Also punk bands are generally socialist or anarchist. Mana is a tankie which is beyond both of those things. And it's not even that she's a leftist but she's one of those annoying ones who whine on twitter and tries to use agitprop on her vtubing audience

>>31635376
Bitch I wasn't even a fan from the beginning. I have better chuubas to watch, but what she did was very disengenuous

>>31635379
lmao

>>31635475
Yes. I'm an unironic supporter of communism myself but that shit is never going to come up on my vtuber persona. It's just bad optics for a cause I genuinely support and believe in, and no serious communist would ever virtue signal about it like this.

>>31635591
Education/profession and physical stats, please.

>>31635086
She's the antithesis of Hololive culture, of course she'd be hated. she's the parasite inside paradise that we closely monitor to make sure it doesn't ruin someone important.

People on the inside have far more potential to do harm to a hobby than those outside of it. Cover has been 99% filled with passionate folks who care about the audience and the VTubing culture that they love, Mori will always be hated as long as she remains the notable exception to this trend.

>>31635659
Let's limit that passion to the JP branch. I don't see passion from a single EN one besides Kiara.

>>31635279
>communist doesn’t have a job or skill that provides society with a necessary good or service and would immediately be sent to a labor camp under communism
everytime

>>31635713
Yes!

I only take issue with her talking about socially inept people when she is displaying social ineptitude herself

ah yes, she was merely pretending to be a communist :^)

>>31633631
God I hate women

>>31635323
>just destroy villages and move the people to cities
That's what the communists did in my country.

>>31635808
God does too

>>31633631
>communist
It's one of the rare occasions I'll defend a literal politicide. It's the "you reap what you sow" moment. It'll make the Pinochet helicopter looks like a literal meme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

>>31635699
fair enough, but the other ENs for the most part at least stay in their lane and don't try to actively do "poison apple" tactics on other girls.

>>31635808
Kazakhbro...

>>31633910
kek

>>31634832
This exactly. This is a strategy by larger indies to pull the ladder up behind them. Anyone with even half a brain cell could figure out being highly antagonistic to your audience as a 2view is career suicide. But some big indie (who never did this) is now telling the smaller ones to do it and whoops looks like now they aren't gaining huge followings, golly jee what a shame.

>>31633631
idk, but vtubers like this should be purged from the community.

>>31635699
I would argue to add fauna to that category, but I'm just too lazy to do it

>>31633910
Jej

>>31635280
Seething roastie lol

>>31635190
>All Metal Bands are commies
Bruh. I doubt bands like metallica, motorhead or five finger death punch are commies

>>31636088
To be fair, most communists are very much "do as I say, not as I do." Just look at Multi-Millionaire Bernie "Tax the BIllionaires" Sanders.

>>31633631
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED TO FILTER THEM
wtf
10000 iq play??

>>31634994
Terminally online internet people.

She's not just a communist, she's a fucking tankie.

>>31635137
>communists all want to socialize that teen pussy

>>31634805
Most of these new-school vtubers don't distinguish between their vtuber persona, regular online persona, and their IRL self. It seems to be an increasingly common thing among young people online.

>>31636132
Communists are just scum, terrible people. They seem to have a strong narcissist streak where they'll say shit like "I HAVE 50K IN STUDENT LOANS YOU'RE EVIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY ALL MY STUDENT LOANS" like they're the most important person in the world and it should revolve around them. They'll come to 4chuck and taunt people about 'getting free student loan money' and how they're gonna take out more loans on a new car now, but will unironically seethecry about the guy who made a lucky stonks trade or owns a small business. They're worse than jews.

>>31633631
Reminder this "communist" defended Putin invading Ukraine. She's a hack.

>>31635190
This goes for most artists because of commercial reasons.

Didn’t she have an “educational stream” about the Ukraine War where she essentially spent the whole stream saying Russia did nothing wrong, and how it’s actually the UN’s fault somehow? I’d like to think she only defended Russia because she still thought they were commies. She’s probably not THAT stupid, but it’s honestly a coin toss at this point.

>>31636255
Most of these *western vtubers.

>>31633631
misunderstanding why people dislike you

I’d mentally written her off for over a year until I heard her in the fucking Death Battle OST for Harley Quinn vs Jinx.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZZKtHF1sk

So hey, I guess her career’s not completely dead. Either that, or Brandon got some good head that night.

>>31636551
she also said Jihad is good

>>31636321
to add on that, using communist USSR as a good example for anything is a special sort of retardation

>>31636377
>>31636551
Some western tankies unironically believe that Putin is trying to revive the Soviet Union, with hammers and sickles and everything. Meanwhile the alt-right crowd has crowned him the new God Emperor of the white race. The whole thing is a fucking shitshow.

>>31633867
>I don't want parasocial relationships
>I want a following of FRIENDS that share the same values as me

Laughing at you delusional fucks suffering from severe cognitive dissonance is the only reason I come here anymore

Many try his strat and fails, reminder he upset the whole of China and now they bend the knee. Just look at their rage against Vox and think that he has tamed that. Purging your community to make it more cohesive is based

>>31636996
>/leftypol/ believes that Putin is going to restore the rightful honor of the USSR, as if it had one to begin with
>/pol/ believes Putin is saving the white race, when Eastern Europe in general is a very white area of the world

>>31633910
lel

>>31637096
/pol/ has different factions since they have three threads dedicated to the Ukraine war and they all hate each other.

>>31633910

>>31634994
Tumblr, discord and twitter. Retarded parents neglect their retarded children that then turn to the internet looking for parental figures only to get fed ideologies by other mentally ill teenagers

They're never gonna grow up because they're never surrounded by functional adults, only affirmation and coddling from their manchild peers

>>31635280
Just say you hate unicorns like some of the other edgy disingenuous shit posting weirdo faggots that visit /vt/ instead of typing out a mother fucking manifesto retard.

Think about it this way:

Millions of 2views seethe daily at big-name chuubas like Gura for giving their fans what they want, and becoming massively successful as a result.

Not a single big-name chuuba has seethed at a 2view for being able to shit talk their fans and accept that they’ll always be poor and unloved, Vtuber or not.

The former is good business sense, a sign of maturity. The latter is poor impulse control, a sign of childishness.

>>31633631
Sadly a big dissapointment for a left-wing chuuba that's into metal. She is a decent singer, but she's such an aggressively authoritarian commie that it hurts. At this point I'd take any kind of libertarian chuuba (except unironic ancaps).

>>31634994
I've never met anything close to a fashoid or ancap either.
All extremists are just permanently online, socially inept zoom zooms. Hopefully they'll grow out of it.

>>31635190

>>31637183
whats the third one?
the pro-Ukraine one, the "comfy" pro-Russian one and?

>>31637471
Based Phil. I bet he fucks a lot of negresses he just wants to piss off annoying fucks.

>>31636088
>motorhead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh3t49NsWBA

>>31637024
>now they bend the knee
Not watching a guy you don’t like is “bending the knee”? God, Nijinigs are so desperate for a victory, their reaches in logic just look pathetic. Meanwhile, Kobochads can just go “haha, 11k go brrrr” and let the math speak for itself.

>>31637541
>anti-establishment message
>commies
Right-wingers know that most rich people aren't their friends, either.

>>31637471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEo2O8-LZds

>>31637394
This but you left out 2views will justify/cope with
>she just got lucky
and/or projecting
>selling out to those incels must be exhausting

>>31637593
Yeah and then they vote for billionaires who campaign on loweing taxes for the rich lmao

>>31635860
>communist genocide
Fucking based.
Ok ID, I will check out your vtubers now.

>>31637593
but they vote for them

>>31637024
Anon, fuu-chan achieved probably the opposite of it, all his fans are extremely attached to him even if he said from day one he doesn't want that
Just because they don't post their fantasies directly into chat and supas doesn't mean they are actually better

>>31637555
anon, are you okay?

>>31637593
turns out both sides are useful idiots

>>31637668
>>31637656
Yeah, because they are afraid of people that look different from them even more. I'm not right-wing, but they aren't getting everything wrong

>>31637694
Driving people away from your channel does not mean you “tamed them”; it just means they’re not interested in you. It’s like saying you tamed a lion, but in reality, the cage is empty, because you opened the door and let the lion run away months ago.

>>31637593
Ah yes "Eat the rich", the well known right wing message

>>31637763
IF you're the same anon, why didn't you post this reply instead of going full schizo?

>>31637269
I hate unicorns. Unicorns were always universally hate even on /jp/ before this board existed. Even here you are the laughing stock of the board while pretending that being a mentally ill retard is the norm somehow.

>>31637787
I'm not saying the band is right-wing, I'm saying that the message is not only used by commies. It's a sentiment found anywhere from commies, to anarchists, to social democrats and even some liberals and right-wingers.

>>31637728
ain't it great to vote against your own self-interest then blame the other people for it

>>31633631
Incredibly based. Literally. Its the definiton.

>>31637885
more like based retard

>>31637810
Because no one here listens to well-constructed logical arguments, so I thought LARPing as a Holobrony would make my argument sound more convincing.

>>31633910
heh

>>31637541
Fair point, but I still seriously doubt they're communists.
Metallica and FFDP I'm 100% sure they aren't commies, and I'd even bet they vote R or lolbert.
Also, young leftists like Mana feel much more childish compared to the old ones.

>>31637885
>being yourself
>by supporting an ideology that believes in shedding you of all individuality

>>31635190
No they're not and I was in those scenes for years. What the fuck are you on? Zoomers think e-girls in black clothing = gothic, punk and metal.

>>31633631
Reverse Pickme. Specifically goes into a cope mode of trying to loudly do the opposite of common wisdom/advice to drive away people instead of attract them.

Like the Pickme looking for her own benefit of validation, the reverse of this would look for her own mental benefit of convincing herself she doesn't need validation. "I don't even care if my audience is tiny/nonexistent because I wasn't going for the usual crowd anyway" etc. Common among indies and even 3views who start to fail and flounder looking for some cope excuses.

>>31634266
>>31635556
What did she do?

>>31638279
Went full /pol/tard for no reason

>>31633631
western vtubers was a mistake

>>31634748
Women don't have ideals, you fucking retard.

>>31634821
What the hell are you talking about?

>>31634994
Retarded twitter zoomers unironically think communism means they wouldn't have to work anymore and the government would punish their dad for being too strict. They're the single most entitled and privileged group of people in the history of mankind.§

>>31634854
>we gave her support then she revealed herself
when will you faggots learn

>>31637857
But enough about the communists.

>>31635190
You need to be over 18 to post here.

>>31639431
>implying communists have the right to vote.

stop watching EN shit

>>31637439
She has no taste or talent for metal anyway. So nothing's lost.

t.singer/drummer

does anyone have the clip of her saying joseph stalin was overly vilified

>>31633631
>leftwing
>used twatrer, facebook, leddit and youtube instead of superior mastodon, matrix and odysee "cuz nazis use it too!"

it is all so tiresome. Hypocrites, the lot of them. God i hate outspoken, spoiled above average IQ retards. They all spread their buttocks for daddy big tech because its more comfortable and more reach like good little consumers

>>31634994
in the forests of the Philippines where femoids like Mana lives

>>31639382
*millennials

>>31633631
Wanting a mentally unhealthy, codependent, two-sided parasocial relationship with her fans. This is how it should be. Real vtubers are just as in love with (You) as you are with them. The rest are just con artists and grifters.

>>31636996
Putin really is the quintessential postmodernist leader, funding and appealing to batshit insane radicals on all spectrums then round them up after he use them.

>>31633631
I always feel a little dirty opposing Marxists since I'm usually surrounded by all sorts of disgusting people, liberals, libertarians, boomers, etc. who typically have an even more simplistic and less educated world view than the Marxists, who at least introduce historical materialism to the equation.

The only critique of Marxism that is valid is that of Spengler: Marxism is not anti-capitalist enough.

>This kind of ethics informs his [Marx] economic thinking. It is the Manchester school all over again. It is exactly like the thinking of Cobden, who at the very same time was leading the Whig free-trade theory to victory. Marx opposed the form of capitalism that derived its justification from Bentham and Shaftesbury and was formulated by Adam Smith. But since he was a critic only, negative and uncreative, he took over his principles from the very thing he was fighting. Work was for him a commodity, not an obligation. That is the core of his political economics. His ethics were the ethics of big business. Not that business is unethical; but we can read between the lines his opinion that the laborer is a fool not to engage in it. And laborers have understood him. The battle for higher wages became a kind of investment speculation: the worker was now a merchant selling his product, work. The trick about Marx’s famous "surplus value" thesis is that it was considered as spoils to be carried off by the successful merchant from the opponent’s stores. It was not to be presented to him for nothing. Class egoism thus became a universal principle. The laborers not only wanted to do business, he wanted the corner the whole market. The true Marxist is hostile to the state, and for the very same reason as the Whig: it hinders him in the ruthless exercise of his private business interests. Marxism is the capitalism of the working class.

>>31640059
>above average IQ retards
lol wat

>>31633631
>Purging
>Communist
hey at least she's a real commie

>>31633631
Filtering people who would not like you and who you do not like is the best for everyone. Most vtubers tolerate the community just because they can get money and clout easily from it.

clearly she didn't purge her audience enough considering op still cares way too much about her

>>31640513
I don't know what to tell you, man. Many such cases. Falling for current thing is the hallmark of oversocialized, smarter than average, urbanites and rurals who want to fit in with those urbanites because they think lowly of their townsfolk.

>>31633631
being a socially inept passive aggressive weirdo.

>>31635190
>All Metal Bands are commies
then tell me why we have a lot of normies whining about Nazi Black Metal

When your audience is so bad that you become a communist.

>>31641084
Because Nazi is shorthand for "thing I don't like, but I can't articulate a reason for it." It's like calling everything you don't like "gay" in the 90s.

Comrade, it's too bourgeois to accept superchats.

>>31634994
>>31635264
It comes from anyone growing up under the tail end of a massive real estate ponzi where rent/mortgage payments takes 40-50% of your take home income.
Boomers got them for peanuts.

>>31635264
>generation of people that think food comes from UberEats and don't produce anything themselves
>being commies

nice

>>31633631
It's called having to reaffirm your bad choices so you can cope with their consequences.

>>31641450
yeah but communism isn't the answer. It's gay and worships the material condition. Well, I mean you weeaboos are super materialistic anyway so you faggots are going to be in cahoots with an ideology made by jews

>>31641084
>>31641263
>>31635190
Bros, all the most influential bands in the extreme metal scene are nazi related.

And i say this as a commie.

>>31636623

because western people are normal and don’t do weird shit like that whole idol culture

>>31640331

KGB did that in the past too, old soviet handbook

Idiots still bumping this obvious bait thread. She does this once every couple of months to keep her relevancy.

>>31633631
Communists can also be parasocial. Just look at Hasan’s stans

Imagine calling yourself
FUTA.COOCHIE.MANA
tranny confirmed

>>31633804
Yeah, long hiatus and then she comes back with a zatsu collab stream with an irl friend talking about their communist ideals right after russia invaded ukraine.

>>31633631
I don't know exactly, but it's the same as this

>>31633631
being american and having a tv for a brain

>>31636255
Like anon said, most western vtubers. Shes been around for a while but had lots of long hiatuses. She does some music stuff and its the only reason I still follow her.

>>31636255
Serial Experiments Lain predicted this.

>>31633631
On one hand, throwing off holofags from your fanbase as soon as you debut is based.
On the other, Mana is still a fucking idiot and she one of the best examples of an amazing character design getting absolutely wasted.

>>31633910
heh

>>31633631
The chud breaking. Where a female makes a post/comment, that makes a young chud so full of seething with impotent rage that he has to make a post on /vt/.

>>31633631
Isnt she the chuuba that made a stream to defend the invasion of ukraine with retarded arguments?

>>31633631
Ameway

>>31639280
You're thinking of right wingers.

just realized her name is Futa Coochie

>>31637096
So you prefer globohomo twitter/reddit? What options "we" have?

>>31633631
I would call it yet another blatant attempt by right wing organizations or foreign governments to push their ideology or cause mass division in America respectively. I hope somebody paid you to post this, rather than you being one of the many motherfuckers dumb enough to actually buy into something so obviously manufactured.

>>31633631
based

>>31633631
Aw man, i wanted to make fun of this bozo now that i remembered she exists and she already got me blocked.