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Why are there so few black Vtuber models?

>> No.31586452

>>31586301
bad for numbers

>> No.31586555

>>31586301
Very dark skin is naturally less photogenic and blends with the scene, so you end up looking like a no-cam streamer.

Best you can hope to pull off is a light tan, aka delicious brown.

>> No.31586605

>>31586301
The point of anime is to create an ideal world removed from harsh reality.

>> No.31586653

>>31586301
There are proportionally as many black vtuber models as there are black anime characters.

>> No.31586727

>>31586301
Because, the tartget audience (East Asia) Doesn't like them.

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There's munibug who used to pal around with senzawa. I think I saw in /lig/ that she redebuted a month ago

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>>31586301
When will I get to have a Dutch-like Vtuber to Oshi...?

>> No.31586895

>>31586301
because it is a debuff

>> No.31586914

>>31586301
The problem is the voice. If they sound black they'll drive away viewers and there will be noise about how viewers are racist. If they don't sound black they'll be called racist for doing blackface.

>> No.31587011

>>31586914
>MHA
>Mirko dub voice is revealed
>Twitter throws a fit that "black should sound black"
>character isn't even black, just a tan Japanese woman
>VA is actually black
You're right, it's better to just avoid the headache.

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>>31586301
why yes we do need this thread again

>> No.31587075

I do wonder if vtubers will unlatch from the anime aesthetic eventually. It's a nice subculture right now but is there really a reason somebody using a model to represent themselves inherently needs to be attached to this culture.

>> No.31587250

>>31587075
There's this Italian woman (can speak English) who does absolutely fantastic art and rigging for 2d vtuber models, and they're all done in a western style of art. I really wish I could remember her name.

>> No.31587423

>>31587011
I just find it fucking hilarious that they screeched about the character not “sounding black” (despite the fact she is actually just a tan Japanese woman) because she didn’t sound like she came from a ghetto. Says a lot about Twittards.

>> No.31588801

>>31587075
>i wonder if this japanese hobby will eventually unlatch from japanese aesthetic
Anon, go watch a western furry vtuber and fuck off from here

>> No.31588989

>>31586301
Because black = ugly as sin and no, fetishes don't count.

>> No.31589053

>>31587075
There's tons of them, just go explore around Twitch.

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>>31587075
Can't wait for vtubers that look like this.

>> No.31589632

>>31586301
japan and black people don't mix well

>> No.31589730

>>31586301
Because they'd instantly become a target for racial abuse. There's definitely black people who are using vtuber models that aren't black though.

>> No.31590657
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31590657

>>31589730

>> No.31590920
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>>31587075
Wouldn't Kaif be that then? It's more western comic art than anything anime

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>>31586301
literally the 2nd most popular EN vtuber

>> No.31592392

>>31591071
??????????

>> No.31593090
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>>31587075
The original vtubers where all not anime anyways.

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>>31593090

>> No.31593222

>>31590657
I love my black Imouto who uses a light-skinned vtuber model

>> No.31594820

>>31586301
it would be stupid to do anyway, you'll just get retards on twitter complaining that a black person should be voicing it, racist, appropration, etc. no smart entertainment company would get involved with blacks unless they want a pr shitshow

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>>31586301
I agree we need more.

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>>31594838
brown chuubas...

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>>31594956
Levi is proof that dark skin isn't a debuff. It is just holofans see Flare and Sana being the least subbed and try to tie the reasons together when the real reasons are unrelated to the skin tone.

>> No.31595186

>>31586301
no one likes pooskins

>> No.31595206

>>31586653
Eh, whenever they create black anime characters it’s usually the "strong but polite brute" speaking in the deepest bass and being america incarnate to the jp audience.
Female black characters, which would be relevant for vtubing, are really rare.

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>>31595136
the sex voice helps

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>>31587011
>"Black should sound black"

>> No.31595345

>>31586653
probably the same ratio of black vtuber models to black people vtuber.
or same ratio of black people watching vtubers to non-black people watching vtubers.
i'd say there are probably an adequate number of black models already.

>> No.31595449

>>31594956
>>31595136
>>31595259
That's white as fuck. I have darker skin when I have a tan.

>> No.31595563

because niggers have made themselves political, and japanese corpos want to AVOID being political

>> No.31595570

>>31587011
Crazy how many people can't tell the difference between black and tanned. The amount of people who viewed Nagatoro as black because she was tanned was absurd.

>> No.31595604

>>31595136
>>31594956
>>31594838
These are dark-skinned gyarus ffs. Sana and Flare too.
Do you think the same would work for a truly black as midnight character? Like really black, not this bullshit creolean light brown. You can find that in okinawa as well.

>> No.31595643

>>31595136
Ok, you don't understand JP otakus at all then. Artists might like dark or tanned characters, but the people spending money on merch and gachas, want light skinned female characters.

>> No.31595653

>>31586882
Please, now that you've presented it to me, I need a black mercenary chuuba to entangle me in a web of crime

>> No.31595788
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There's black vtubers, supposedly one of the en boys is black. But question is, why does it matter, do you need them to be black?

Do they need to dress and act like a thug wearing a dew-rag with a afro pick sticking out of it, spinning a basketball on one finger while holding a watermelon in the other hand? Does he bring his ebt card off to kfc and mug a white dude on the way so he can get his purple drank on the way back to his shitty projects house in virtual Detroit?

Is that the black vtuber experience?

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31595891

>>31595449
SEAchama...

>> No.31595995

>>31586301
black people run into the same problem gay people do of the fanbase they will get will push them to make there content about how black they are

>> No.31596178

>>31595604
yeah i never really understood the talk about how dark sana is... like that's a tan at best. i think it's people who've never actually seen a black person before or have only seen lightskinned black people.

>> No.31596320

>>31595891
Worse. French.

>> No.31596517

>>31586301
The very obvious answer is that Vtubers despite the desires of people in the Western world to have diversity for the sake of diversity in every field is dominated by Asians and European personalities who choose models which are in line with how those people look or are in line with the anime meta which inspired the genre.
This is like asking why there aren't more white miners in Uganda.
What we should more be asking is why the actual non-white vtuber personalities don't choose to use black models.

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>>31596320
dios mio

>> No.31596983

>>31596178
It’s america that has been conditioned to only think in black, white and asian. They also have hispanics but then they run into a problem of who is white and who isn’t because spaniards are definitely white, so is it only Western Europeans, only the french german and british, or all europeans, in which case they’d have no logical reason as to why Portuguese and Spanish americans aren’t white.

Same thing with black, applying that to all subsaharan races is equally as retarded. A Nigerian has nothing to do with an Ethiopian except his skin color, and even that will have differences.

And I don’t even have to start with how braindead asians as a term for a race is

Turns out you can’t simplify the world in three terms. Really they should just learn to name and differentiate the most important races individually but I guess that would be too much work

>> No.31597029

Do you want them to end up like Sana?

>> No.31597147
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31597147

behold

>> No.31597155

>>31596983
You do realize hispanics refers to mexicans and other people from that area and not people from spain, right?

>> No.31597253

>>31586301
>straight hair
>pink lips
>narrow nose
>colored eyes
>"Black"
riiiiiiiiiiiight

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https://www.twitch.tv/charlottexbear
Shilling one of my favorite indies because why not

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>> No.31597355

>>31597155
I didn’t say otherwise, you didn’t get it

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>>31587011
picrel

>> No.31597453

>>31590657
>>31597309
Is Charlotte a black name then?

>> No.31597548

>>31597253
People really use the fill with color tool in MS paint, set it to brown and click on an anime face and think they made a black character

>> No.31597604 [DELETED] 

>>31597147
I KNEEL

>> No.31597633 [DELETED] 

>>31597147
Nyagger

>> No.31597705

>>31597147
Nyaggers

>> No.31597736

>>31595604
retard

>> No.31597757

>>31597370
Good lord, imagine being black these days...they have to be racist parodies of themselves or else they offend the white women on Twitter.

>> No.31597782

>>31586301
White skin contrasts better with colors than dark skin. White is instinctively associated with cleanliness and purity, while dark colors aren't. You can call racism all you want, that's how it is for non dark skinned people.

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>>31597147
Still wouldn't forgive her for kowtowing to tumblrtards.

>> No.31597930

>>31588989
>and no, fetishes don't count.
The fuck does this even mean?

>> No.31598070

>>31597757
it's almost as if those self-proclaimed "anti-racists" are the most racist of them all since they can't even comprehend that black people are also individuals who may dress and act in a way that they like and who may sound different from each other since, you know, Africa is a pretty big abd diverse place.
>>31597253
Just look at this guy
>you're only black if you fit a certain set of arbitrary criteria which reflect my very own narrow view of how black people are all the same
this is basically what this post says

>> No.31598178

>>31597309
Charlotte is a great example of a black characters that is very pleasing to the eye.
Well except for the last model she got, the face proportions just look kinda weird on that one.

>> No.31598329 [DELETED] 

Winning the lottery is just luck, but you won't win the lottery if you never buy a ticket

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>>31597453
Maybe.

>> No.31599492

>>31595788
That shit only matters to American blacks, you are supposed to talk getto because speaking properly is seen as “acting white” which leads to you getting beat until you act like you are supposed to. The same thing happens if you get good grades or a proper job.

>> No.31599803

>>31587250
YoshinoArt?

>> No.31606609

>>31596178
because burgers are retarded. keep this in mind next time you have a question about something weird in EN, because its probably gonna have the same answer.

>> No.31606988

>>31597865
did japan just discover eugenics or what? where did you even get this pic from lol

>> No.31609743

>>31586301
"Black" doesn't go well with anime-ish aesthetics, tan works, but black doesn't.

>> No.31609878

>>31586301
nobody likes blacks

>> No.31609938

>>31586301
>Why are there so few black
good

>> No.31610518
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31610518

As usual, I will be shilling Kipa.
Kipa is a very cute girl! She is black with a cute cunny model. She's a lolicon and a talented artist!

>> No.31615029

watsfbvm

>> No.31618408

>>31586301
Niggers are ugly and no one wants to be reminded of their disgusting faces. Shitskins stink so there is a sense memory issue as well.

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>>31597865
Niggers are retarded.

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>>31618617
Receipts

>> No.31618734

>>31610518
Would not recommend. Go to ridiculous lengths to avoid direct confrontation. E.g See a regular say something that some what upsets her so she times them out then moves on, right? Nope, after stream ends goes to tweeter and has a melt down. Even made a colourful poster about the whole thing, that boiled down to "you made me feel uncomfortable for two seconds and that was too much".

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>>31586860
Munibug is so shit. Look man, I like menhera vtubers but she's so bitchy. Always fuckin crying on stream because she's a sensitive bitch ass cunt. Always having a breakdown even though she's a grown ass adult. I'm here for her cunny but I can't even jerk off to her streams with her stupid voice and even shittier content.

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>>31597865
Okay, schizopositng and racism-lite aside, this has always been a gripe of mine. Anime characters have always been white to me. Every detail about them is white, if an anime ever has a "white" person, they need to bump the sterotypes up to 11 to indicate "THIS! THIS IS WHITE PEOPLE!"

>> No.31625176

>>31597309
From first glance, she sounds and acts like a black Pikamee.
Will watch how she develops...

>> No.31632682

>>31606988
Some far right telegram channel I lurk in I think.

>> No.31632987

>>31586301
Because typically black people don't watch vtubers, so their audience pool is smaller or twitter cunts so they burn out fast

>> No.31636478

>>31595449
>I have darker skin
wassup my nigga

>> No.31636725

>>31597147
I feel like Black Nyanners

>> No.31637424

>>31592392
Her spirit is black. Or wants to be, anyway.

>> No.31638236

>>31586555
aka the gyaru onee-chan I've been dreaming of

>> No.31638531

>>31592392
Mori is a wigger

>> No.31639814

>>31594838
my sexy brown futa chuuba

>> No.31640497

>>31639814
>Futa
Gross. Ruined. Already bad enough it's voiced by a dude.

>> No.31640780

>>31586301
if you were able to pick how you were born, why would you want to be born with a debuff anon?

>> No.31640899

>>31586301
They're all uninteresting TwitterTubers

>> No.31641370

>>31594838
Wish this Vtuber existed.

>> No.31647086

>>31618734
God, I love a menhera.

>> No.31647264

>>31597865
Yes, there are differences in homo sapiens races, but what you posted there was a Neanderthal skull

>> No.31647348

>>31597736
Fuck you dumbass, consider the rope

>> No.31647397

>>31639814
Wait that’s actually a futa? What’s she called?

>> No.31647487

>>31594956
>>31595136
What race has this skin color?

>> No.31647961

>>31647487
Indians and some SEA.

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>>31647487
semen demons

>> No.31649197

>>31586301
If you can be anything you want with your avatar why would anyone want to be black

>> No.31649227

>>31620177
They look white to you because you're concerned about races. To Japanese people, the default is being Japanese. Anime isn't even concerned about being faithful to real-life characteristics. Tezuka Osamu even used to say, "Manga is symbolic drawing." You draw something people can recognize as an eye, not how an eye should be photo-realistically.
There may be some sort of beauty complex related to western characteristics vs Japanese characteristics, but that's different from what we find in manga/anime. I think it deals more with cultural differences in what people focus on.

>> No.31650001

>>31586301
White fragility.

>> No.31652261

what % of the vtuber watching audience is black?
what % of vtubers are black?
i think the number of black vtuber models should reflect those two numbers reasonably well.

>> No.31653300

>>31649227
I’m pretty sure it’s exactly that, beauty complex related to western characteristics being seen as the norm subconsciously.
Modern manga has absolutely nothing to do with historical japanese drawings of faces

>> No.31653475

>>31647264
It's an old bait/self hate image made for a Japanese chan.

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>> No.31657372

what a shame

>> No.31658636

>>31586301
It's very hard to make outfits actually work and color coordinated. Not to mention you're putting your head in a guillotine for no good reason at all, blacktuber watchers are almost exclusively twitter autists looking for the next person to cancel for clout or gatekeep out of blacktuber spaces for not being dark enough.

>> No.31659689

>>31587075
Western character designs are repulsive

>> No.31659865

>>31652261
By that logic shouldn't most v-tuber models look south east asian?

>> No.31664044

>>31597155
Hispanic = from spain or one of its colonies
Latino = from Mexico, central or south america
for instance, Brazil can be considered a latino country but can't be considered hispanic because they were colonized by portugal and not spain. most people don't know the difference though so go wild

>> No.31664133

>>31645426
>>31587075

>> No.31670399

Because dark skin is not equated with beauty.

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