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The roster result for out /vtl/ team came out, see here: >>30042825
Music for the medals are also decided: >>30323043
Polls for the team anthem have closed, see the results: >>31255836
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Last but not least, an anon stepped up and wanted to do a quick tourist's guide for the various nations of Vitubia! >>29911443
If you are up for it please submit a short text that introduces your nation by replying to this post.
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> For the Anon who owns the bylaws rentry please change it in accordance to the lastest voting results
>The map anchor have been removed since the oceans have all been named. And I don't recall it being used very often anyways.

>>31418488
I'd like to briefly bring these outcomes of the vote to attention, so that people who wish to can start thinking about them.
Outstanding proposals
The island matter is not resolved and should be discussed further.
Rentry-based vote validation may be considered.
New proposals
A potential province-based system to distribute land to new threads has been brought up and should be discussed further.
No timeline on any of those.

>>31418805
>A potential province-based system to distribute land to new threads has been brought up and should be discussed further.
This is something I feel we should wait on Mountain before starting a discussion over, as we would really be talking over nothing before we at least see a solid proposal from him and a preliminary map showing which nations would get deleted, and the reasoning behind each one.

>>31419424
Agree, I posted this among other things so that Mountain sees it when he comes by.

>>31419778
Sad I missed the ass enjoyer last time he dropped by, wanted to ask him if it was ok to start on archive dives and map making while he cooks up the rules that we would use for unrepped nations in the future.

>>31418488
Reposting /meat/anon's proposal

The Position of /nasa/ as A Writing Element Following the Dissolution of /nasa/ Act

/meat/anon's offering:

1. I will not remove every pre-established lore such as GD, Cassandra and her powers, Bread Dog production, and the named characters.

2. The absolute fate of Lammington will be leaving /vt/ to symbolize roommate followers. However:
a) The schizo attack will now have less casualties, signifying out-of-universe's calm graduation and in-universe's allies coming to help.
b) The remains of any space-tech left behind will be kept by Sanalite emigre. No looting.
c) I will not make the Janny attack epilogue (https://rentry.org/vtwbg-nasaepilogue)) an absolute ending. That will be retconned into a rrat in-universe.

3. I will not shoehorn /meat/ in anywhere or anything here. The character's role is now as an observer/auxiliary. Not a driving force.
a) Same goes for any non-Sanalites at the time such as the Onobot, Risuners, Hoomen, Brrats, Saplings, and Lunaito party.

/nasa/'s offering:

1. With the state of /nasa/ as a general is now legacy, dissolve power and authority to write for /nasa/ lore and establish a round robin one. Writing for /nasa/ (or any defunct legacy generals such as /rushia/) can now be done by anyone interested under the following prerequisites;
a) Does not completely retcon the ending and any other established lore.
b) Canonize only after the review and approval of multiple writers.
c) Takes place before the Graduation Arc.
d) Any Sanalites mentioned in stories post-Grad Arc are considered emigrants/naturalised citizens who left before the Graduation Arc. Their status is up to the writer of whatever nation they are in.

2. Compile every, any and all unfulfilled ideas you and Cunt had. Every single scrap even rumors back in /nasa/ for these can be salvaged, revitalised, and improved upon;
Plans such as
a) Speculative wildlife, space wildlife, unique creatures on-board Lammington.
b) Pre-descent space mythos and adventures. This includes their analogies of happenings on /nasa/ threads.
c) Sanalite cultural rites and traditions that were not fully fleshed out.
d) Every radical over the top ideas such as the Star-Child.

The contents of this deal are up to discussion until both parties are satisfied.
Once approved, this deal will be submitted for voting.

>>31384176
Sorry for the lack of reply. Truth be told, I had been doing my reps since you first asked it, but I admit the subject's not something I know much about. What I can tell you is that the /rrat/ highlands are formed by collisional orogeny due to the two continental plate crashing against each other. Since subduction is rare due to the plates having similar density, the highland is both tall and widespread. It's also probably a hot orogeny like the Himalayas due to its height implying the orogeny has been going on for a while (compared with the Alps for example), which has different implications, but chief among which being that magmatism would be (relatively) more common as the subducted plate is starting to melt, thus creating porphyry copper deposit. I don't know its implications on iron ore quality or even availability, though, so I can't really help you with it. Sorry.
Geologically, a good chunk of /who/ would be a retroarc foreland basin (since the top of the /rrat/ highland belongs to the same plate), where the fold has since been filled up with sediments coming from the eroding highland and/or evaporation of water being trapped in the lowland.

>>31419642
Ohayo clocks! I haven't wrestled the magic physics into submission enough to really say, but I believe there is a path, I just have to figure out how the vectors work out.
And also, I suspect even if the theory was figured out, the manufacturing needed to pull off the rails is firmly post-industrial revolution tier, unlike the chuubanite guns, so I might sit on this for a while anyway.

>>31420037
Hello!
Oh my interest in your idea is purely theoretical, I had no plans of utilizing it, I just want to figure out as much of the vitubium physics as possible for the sake of figuring it out itself.

>>31419900
Dont worry about us anon, there is no jihad brewing up in the Serene republic, you can continue living your life happy and unaware.

Also sorry paragraphs, I wont be continuing the conversation as I am not feeling argumentative. If it makes you feel better, chalk me up as a retard, but I still think I'm right.

OHAYO VTWBG! How are all of you? How are your projects coming along?

>>31420220
>Oh my interest in your idea is purely theoretical, I had no plans of utilizing it
Hah! Imagine trusting that line from a kronie... I'll share my findings when I get around to it.

>>31420018
Thanks. Then I'll wait for you to finish your reps first. Alternatively you can just do a write up about a long geological history of the Council plate and I'll write about the deposits based on some similar real-life ones. Don't stress it too much though. I can always just wing it. The biggest reason I want it to be realistic is so that my lore don't deviate from the actual, detailed geological history which you might or might not do in the future.

>>31420535
To be honest, I'm not sure if more reps on my end would result in anything more detailed, and even then the end product might not fit your vision, which is ultimately what matters. It might be better to just wing it and then work it out backwards to fit the result.

>>31420580
Alright. I'll start writing the metallurgical and mining industry of /who/ this week. Please bonk me if it gets too ridiculous. Thanks for your past work.

Gm!!!!! Another day another slay!!!!

>>31420744
Good morning!

>>31420744
mornin'

>>31420744
morning!

Word cloud for last thread.

>>31416672
https://rentry.org/ni5ud
I tried making it into an IPA table

/who/ wants an steel quality measuring contest? never should have come...

I wrote about industrial espionage in Lusitania. I included /who/ as someone who tried to steal secrets regarding our steel and metallurgic industry because I felt it fit rather well with their own desires. If anyone from /who/ wants me to change it or if anyone else wants included, I am willing to work it out. The basis for this section was to show why these industries are guarded so tightly, and given that Lusitania an armed neutral power, I thought this was fair and would have little effect on relations with /who/ for example, whom our government would already think of as a state that we aren't keen on trading with or making deals with because of the government and religion. (You are unironically similar to us in your foreign policy, but I could see your nation trying to figure out some things about us for you own gain in.)
https://rentry.org/lusitania#attempts-at-industrial-espionage

>>31424703
Oh, hey Organic. I loved how you included watamelon into the history of Lusitania a lot since we are now officially neighborsI waited to say this until it was official/spoiler]. I have been sort of mapping out how the Caliphate's history works, and I think that gradual radicalization over time makes sense, and that a lot of our fights early on were against Nijisanji Powers like LazuLight, 2434, mhm and v7. (Bakatare, Ahoy, and Nijimales would make sense too but they do not have reps. Your lore for Lusitania and V7 thus far has given me the idea that Watamelon at one point was part of Bakatare before they split off under the principles of a prophet and formed their own state. Furthermore, I think until recently that we had good relations with Bakatare and Ahoy until radicalization, would like others feedback on this)

Anyway with that siderant done, did you want to write any lore together with me about Lusitania and the Agnami? I would be more than happy to work with you because you do an excellent job and your history sort of has inspired me some what. Tell me if you have any ideas!

>>31424967 (me)
why did it secret all of it.... It was just supposed to be "I waited to say this until it was official"

>>31424967
>>31425003
Thanks, I am glad you loved it as much as I did! one of the reasons I wanted to work with mhm was originally down to the relationship with Watamelon. We can work something out soon, I don't know what yet but maybe a raid and a counter raid, and we can flesh out history more together. Also a question as I think this could be something beneficial for all of us. Would you consider writing some lore for Bakatare to fill out our little region? I sort of have them in V7's history as the reason V7 went from a direct military power to a asymmetical power and thought it would be nice if we got some lore in there as well. Obviously, you do not have to do it or even go all into it, but i think it would help both of us out if you did.

>>31425198
Absolutely, I was actually thinking that myself since it is sad to see Bakatare without lore. I have two conditions however, and that is you use your map for Bakatare, (I'll think of the language, government, etc., give me a little bit on that) and that you try to line up my map with yours. I don't want you to bother doing my whole nation, just what is shown in your current map! Exciting ideas, overall that I think will really make our region alive after many months of being totally dead. The idea of us linking all of this history together is exciting to me as well; I loved how the Nijifriends did/are doing that because it allows us to establish a unified timeline. I'll get back to you tomorrow about my basic ideas about Bakatare that would be essential to your map.

>>31425380
Awesome! No problem on the map stuff, indeed, that was sort of what I wanted to do myself there. One day, maybe I can get some lore for ehe~ in that will complete the map and our region. I think we both understand that this can be changed by a future rep, but that is fine be me also. Awaiting your lore with anticipation

>>31425198
>>31425380
That...seems like a bad idea. You do realize that if a bakatare rep ever comes along and decides that he doesn't like the lore you two cooked up for them, he can just retcon it all, right? Making your own work now completely pointless.
Also correct me if I am wrong, but isn't bakatare still scheduled to be swapped with /stars/? And there is also a proposal Mountain is working on that would remove and loreless and repless general from the map so we get space to place nations in the future and don't have a repeat of /mhm/ and /mans/ timeloops. bakatare/stars would fall under that, so the land where bakatare currently is could go to basically any general in the future, as long as they like the placement.

Watamate, what would you describe the culture of Bakatare as? Do you frequent it?

>>31425624
>Retcon
I fully understand that it can be retconned. That is fine, and we can adjust that. This is more about just having fun for me and i would not be upset if someone wanted to take a different direction and would adapt accordingly
>Bakatare/Stars swap
I don't think this should happen because Bakatare primarily a general for Watame and Flare to a degree more than FBK. The reason FBK is included is to allow the thread to survive. While Stars does need a better placement, perhaps, I do not think Bakatare should be swapped with it. I don't know if me being a Watamate myself matters on this, but I would like to have it where it is honestly.
>Removing Loreless and Repless generals.
Here is my question then because I understand there are nations that have lore on them that have never had a rep, if I wrote Bakatare lore, wouldn't that change this? I am not totally opposed to what he has planned because, honestly, a lot of the borders just look like someone drew squiggly lines on purpose. While it would have made more sense for ahoy, Bakatare, and Watamelon to be with other JPs and Moona, Pagi, and Zomg to be in this region, such a change would be an issue for my own nation right now. Had Watamelon had no lore, it would make more sense to me but this desicion should have been made back when Nuefag threw the map together.
>>31425625
As I have said, Bakatare is mostly a Watame general, as she is the most popular vtuber posted there. Flare is second and FBK is third. I do frequent the thread and I would have chosen to write for it had the meme potential of Watamelon not been there.

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>>31423424
You sill billy, why would /who/ compete with a femhooman?

>>31426028
>a lot of the borders just look like someone drew squiggly lines on purpose.
Blame nuefag and his insistance on filling out the entire map. Yea, the burders suck ass.
>if I wrote Bakatare lore, wouldn't that change this?
This would be a loophole that would need to be addressed, as that could be done for basically any nation at the spur of the moment. Personally, I am of the opinion that if a nation has some lore, but no active rep (as in, noone has stepped up to rep for it for multiple months) it should still be affected by the Province Proposal, and the lore would simply stay in the archives as something a future rep can lean on when making his decision for placement.
And to answer this specific case, since you are a rep for watamelon, while you can still write for bakatare, you won't rep them. And if the rule above would be used in the Proposal, bakatare would still be subject to the "deletion".

One thing I personally am heavily leaning towards in regards to the Proposal would be that generals that have been mentioned in the past, either in stories or trade deals, general lore or historic events, would still be required to be placed in general areas, for example, /ggg/(although this is an outdated example, as touristbud did make a reappearance) would be placed somewhere in their current subcontinent, or at least in the near vicinity(hirys, amewat, pekora would be prime examples for possible placement that shouldn't break too much lore, while they might require some small edits here and there). Same with matsuri, as I remember Lunaito mentioning they have a pretty strong rivalry(or was it cold war?) between them.

That's why for now, I would suggest holding off on writing lore for nations that you do not rep, and instead focusing on your own nation. This is a big(if not the biggest) meta change proposal we have had since I came here, and I don't expect it to be finalized any time soon. I would hate for arguing to erupt because you(or any writer for that matter) spent weeks writing up the lore for a nation that would then be declared repless and be subject to have it's borders removed.

>>31426947
Good points, but I think intent should also be considered with writing lore for another general. Like let's just say Alice wrote lore for Aetheria just so they didn't get subjected to this and not because she had any interest. That is much different than what Watamate is proposing.

>>31427149
True. That's why this is such a huge undertaking, each nation would have to be inspected case by case and decided upon.

>c. All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time, but it is a must for voting. Y/N

>Summary: 12 for Y, 9 for rentry-based validation, 6 for N, Y passes. Rentry-based validation has significant support (50% despite not being mentioned in the question) and may be accepted as well, contingent on thread discussions.

Vote anon, no offense but this counting of the rentry thing is a bit dishonest because not everyone who "agreed" to that option said this in the way it was phrased by Morig and WG. Indeed, looking over, many were just suggesting it either as "edit lore for verification for old fags" or "as a backup method should this be compromised." How many were actually calling for what WG and Morig proposed?

>>31427443
Let me give examples, LazuLight, pcg, and 2434 did not support this method but rather the old lore thing. mep, mhm, mans, wah did amongst those that voted Y. Vrt said it made no difference. Morig, Nasfaq and Wg proposed the rentry method but voted N. Out of the 12 that voted yes, only 4 voted for the other method. Out of the 6 for no, 3 did. This is not 50% at all.

>>31427800
39% if i did my math correctly. While we can bring this to the next voting session, 50% is not accurate whatsoever.

>>31418457
archiveanon, please label V7 as S.C.T.Z. and mhm as Lusitania in the lore archive.

>>31427443
>>31427800
>>31427894
Sorry anons, I didn't have any ulterior motivations, I just took note of the ballots that mentioned the rentry thing, and since a bunch mentioned it, I thought it would be worth mentioning it as a potential discussion topic. This is not a commitment to a vote on the topic.

>>31419424
>>31419778
>>31419850
Alright I'm here. I think the definition I'm going to go for for loreless is that they have no location dependent lore relating to them, or if they do have location related lore it is too dated or sparsely written to be considered worth following by future reps.

With this, I'll set to work on breaking up countries that currently don't have anything written for them in the lore archive.

>>31427443
wait where are you seeing this summary?

>>31428768
https://rentry.org/t7gqwu

>>31428543
Wb sweetie! Regarding that, have you read >>31426947? 2nd paragraph to be exact. I think we could go with something like that for nations that are mentioned, but have no lore for themselves.

>>31428543
where does bakatare fit here?

>>31428854
Well considering I don't even see it in the archives, kek btw, it should be considered loreless and repless for now.

>>31429105
You know that Watamate has plans for it right? Or are we just going to say "Fuck it" and not worry about that.

>>31429178
I...have discussed that above with the watarep...

>>31429178
We've been over this. countries really shouldn't write lore that involves, or hinges on, none repped countries.

>>31429349
No, he wants to write for them.

>>31429380
NTA but looking over what he wants to do, i support it. It's nice see things fit together well and if he understands the general he can do it under the knowledge it can be retconned

FYI, Alice does have Lore about Nijimales in her own lore so I think they should be excluded (And Alice should do a lore piece on them just so it makes more sense for those who think they have no lore when they do.)

>>31429349
Mountain has evolved into Ass...

Ok, time for a Cunt take:
I don't believe we should support reps writing lore for more than one general. Mentioning a neighbouring nation is fine and all, but writing full on lore docs on them just so everything in your corner of the world fits together nicely just doesn't sit right with me. We have had this with both /mhm/ rep and now watamelon. If you have the time to write lore about other nations, why not spend that time fleshing out your own nation more?

This would also put pressure on new reps and see that their lore page has already been filled out by another rep from a different nation. In a situation like that, they might feel compelled to keep as much of the old lore as to not offend, stiffling their own creativity.

>>31429946
I don't feel very strongly about it, but I have to admit worldbuilding for just my one nation keeps my plate so full I couldn't imagine writing for a second one even if I wanted to.

>>31430100
Same kek. Also HELLO FUCKERS! HOW IS THE WORLD GOING?

>>31429946
I agree with everything said here. I don't think its a good idea to give currently repless threads lore that future reps may feel obliged to respect.

>>31430100
And that I feel needs to be ingrained into the mind of every writer here. there is SO MUCH you can write about your nation, from detailing perhaps centuries of history, to detailing everything your major cities produce, trade, animal and plant life, the culture dear god THE CULTURE of your people, how it evolved over your history, etc etc. So much lore and details that can be explored that I feel you shouldn't even have the time to think about what your neighbouring nations might be doing, aside from some smaller details that you can change according to the developments with said nation.

Now, to clarify a bit, I'm not saying that you shouldn't write for your neighbouring nations that have reps, hell, nijis help each other like that all of the time, specially pp with /haha/. But you shouldn't write for repless nations so that they fit into your perception of how your corner of the world would look like. What if you write the lore for one of your neighbours about how your nations are constantly at odds with each other, and build your own nation off of that, and then a rep for said nation comes in and decided that nah, he wants to be friends with you?
You just wasted perhaps weeks of your own time, and now have to scrap all of that. And if you push for the rep to instead keep your two nations as enemies, you are putting restrictions on him from the very momemt he joined. And that would just make most people leave.

>>31429739
I'm always evolving baybee. I got my Mountains already, now I'm on the chase for ass

>>31429946
I can agree with this. That’s actually why I purposely refrained from putting any lore into any other Niji nations, even though I very well could have. For a time I considered something like being a /NijiEN/ rep over /rose/, but I realized that even if I did so then I would be forcing the next person to take on the lore I left behind. Doesn’t sit well with me.

>>31429946
Similar thoughts as the deadbeat here. But I do think that it's better for anons to focus just on one thread they frequent the most. Maybe /mhm/ and watamelon's writers can go to both /v7/ and bakatare and ask indirectly for a writer. Since they do know and frequent those threads they should face less resistance, even if I personally don't approve of this kind of method much. This should just be a guideline rather than a rule though.

>>31429946
So Panon's entire thing saga is worthless according to you.
> If you have the time to write lore about other nations, why not spend that time fleshing out your own nation more?
Bro, both of them have fleshed out their lore a lot. There is nothing wrong with this at all, especially if you know the thread like they do. Can I ask you a question because I feel like Panon is one of the main people that did this. How did Haha, Yeah, and NijiEN feel about the lore he wrote involving them?

>>31430458
First of all, get your fick out of your hand and put some pants on please. Second, morning, how's the nut research coming along?

>>31430611
Let's also not forget that it was the great I that spurred on this change! Thank you thank you, you can stop clapping now.

I have wanted to write for nijimales for about a month now but refrain because I like what alice did with us and I wanted to add on. I post every now and then, including in this thread already but my shyness has prevented me from actually trying to do anything out of fear of being attacked by accusations from anons....

>>31430650
nta
I agree with cunt, but I think the Pomerlane Saga is an obvious exception to this rule, same with other already established multi thread works.

If it insisted... i won't bother with v7 lore... didn't know it was a problem like this. gosh, i just started with mhm because it was more clear what i was going to do there than with v7 at the time.

>>31430611
Ah, but Mountain (I'll keep calling you Mountain, calling you Ass would be weird), the quest for ass never ends. You've embarked on the last journey of your life.

>>31430650
/haha/ mentioned!!!! I arrived!!! A lot of the stuff Panon wrote for /haha/ was similar to what I had in mind!!! When I wanted to change some things, he was very flexible with changing his saga to fit my vision of /haha/!!!!!

Fine, I accept the thread's consensus even if I totally disagree with it.

>>31430650
Since the Saga is a mythical retelling, it’s possible to keep it and just say that was the Lazulight general’s interpretation of the events. It could continue to function as its own piece and not interfere with any lore that another nation has. To be honest, I’ve always found it to be a curious canon yet sometimes technically-not-canon work.

>>31430729
>spoiler
Aww!!! Please don't be afraid of posting your ideas!!! A lot of stuff I wrote was first discussed in here before putting it into my lore!!! We would love to see your proposals!!!

>>31430729
Are you that pinoy nijisister? Even if you are worried you might interfere with the lore that's already written you should still try to write about a member nation in /nijimale/. And don't be afraid of the accusations, some anons just got paranoid over the falseflagging, things have improved now so feel free to post.

>>31430938
Except /yeah/, /nijien/ and /haha/ all have agreed to work with it overall.
>inb4 yeah doesn't have a rep.
He went to /yeah/, talked about it and they loved what he has done.

>>31431004
i am a nijisister but not pinoy. i am not worried about interfering because she has it done well and i like it a lot. i want to keep the dynamic, that's what i am worried over.
>>31431005
Thanks! It's just challenging to say anything regarding something alice has done without that paranoia.

>>31431023
Well, it is still written in-universe and has the biases that come with that, that's something that Panon plays with by design.

>>31430729
Oh yea, we did start a lot of timeloops and arguments over the last couple of weeks, haven't we? Well, if you ever get over the shyness, know that we will gladly accept you :)

>>31430803
Please don't feel dejected from this, It's just that we have to put some solid ground rules out there for the future. As I said, there is a veritable mountain of stuff you can still write about /mhm/, and if you manage to attract a /V7/ writer in here (but please, don't containment break too obviously, that only leads to problems) you can always help them get settled in, sorta like pp did with all the niji writers that joined after him.

>>31430938
Another thing, Panon saga is something that has already been in the works for months now. It's hard to change the past, and yes, maybe we should have warned him, but what is done is done. Both /V7/ and bakatare however have yet to happen, so we can still advise them against it and discuss it.

>>31430803
You have messed up a couple times already, so naturally I am not going to support you on this whatsoever. Write about mhm more.

>>31429349
>>31430611
delicious chicken thighs

>>31431154
>You have messed up a couple times already
Jesus fucking christ, even I am being civil about this fucking topic, and you can't?

>>31431126
>V7 hasn't happened
https://rentry.org/Senatus-Civitas-Zetanus
of course I feel dejected, I worked hard on this and now I am fucked. I even included a reason why v7 became less about a military culture and more about the spy shit. But fine, scrap all of it since it is incomplete.

>>31430650
The difference is that that things like the Pomerlane saga and the Vötzmich saga is that they were done largely with the consent of the repped nations involved in them.
We're discussing lore being written for nations that don't currently have reps.

>>31430828
>>31430671
The ass arc will be a long one...

>>31431104
Oh then I think I mistaken you with another anon from nijimale visiting breifly like a month or two ago. Just start talk with alice and the other nijianons about how you can integrate what you have in mind with the pre existing lore. I'm sure you can work something out.

>>31431277
>ass arc will be a long one
hehehehehe

>>31431202
All who have eyes, forgive me.

>>31431104
Understandable!!! I think you should just identify yourself before posting your ideas!!! Antichamas usually post in an aggressive way so you should be good!!!!

>>31431355
So this is the power of /umami/...

>>31431277
>The ass arc will be a long one...
long like my dick can i get an ayo

>>31431422
ayo

>>31431263
Goddamn, that's actually...ahh...look mate, I am really sorry about this, perhaps we should have discussed this a lot more last week, but the other "rep" of the idea, Mountain, wasn't here much and there was already a lot of discussion about the other topics on the vote. Perhaps we acted a bit too late to reigh in your enthusiasm. I apologise for that. But I still uphold that this is something that we need to set in stone going forward, clear rules regarding unrepped nations with little to no lore.

>>31431422

>>31430671
>fick
kek
Also not bad. I checked warosu and found the nuts that would likely grow in the humid subtropical east but for the west which is much more dry I need to do separate research. Oh and something to say about some legend anon while I was lurking in sapling threads. It was a fucking nothingburger all along and none of them give a fuck. So if a sapling rep comes along WE GONNA BE FRIENDS
>>31419169
>>31419934
>>31420517
>>31420532
>>31420609
I actually feel motivated to write stories again and since after today ill have 3 days off in a row my autism boner is expanding rapidly. FEELS FUCKING AMAZING MAN!

Alright, since I am involved let me give my perspective.
1. V7 does have lore being written about it and it is nice. Bakatare doesn't, however...
2. If you ever decide to write for other nations near you, you should ONLY give a foundation, like I did with yeah and haha. If the Watamate, as I understand it, wants to make sense of his thread being what it is and Organic wanting to have a mild, unspecific history about the invasion and the loss of land in V7, that should be fine.
At the end of the day, if you want to write for a neighbor, make it as workable as possible for future writers and work under the knowledge that it can be deleted if the future writer wants to. Attempts, subtly, should be made about V7 in particular about getting a rep, because the truth is you can be a rep with someone else doing a lot of the writing. Same for Bakatare as well. Need I remind everyone that not one person had a problem with V7 being written by Organicbro until now and that we were all excited about it yesterday. This doesn't sit right with me and feels like a kneejerk response.

>>31431422
Time to go ingredient hunting

>>31431664
Q:What is a Foundation
A: Just simple things like a basic map, basic not to detailed lore and basic history. There is nothing wrong with this as a Foundation can be easily removed. my lore for yeah is a good example of this as I built off what was written already and just laid a foundation for future writers for yeah.

if i am the nijimales writer, am i allowed to write for 2434 as well? i know alice wanted help on somethings and since i plan on keeping her foundation and building on her ideas; i thought it might make sense.

>>31431664
How close do they have to be to count as being nearby, incidentally?

>>31431881
As long as both you and Alice agree on it, I see no problem.

>>31431881
Yes, and welcome! Since I am in a drought for my own stuff, I am more than willing to devote attention to helping you and alice on this. (not now, got a job interview which is nearby.

>>31431881
Yes but just in case, talk to her about your ideas first before you put any ink on the paper.

'oo are do'n wars right now? I would love ta help out 'n ‘da stomp'n.

>>31431896
I would usually consider a direct neighbor and I would also recommend asking the thread that you wish to write for as well. Yeah was different for me because when I did it i didn't understand what being a rep meant.

>>31431487
this dude gets it he a real one
>>31431622
not as small as yours AYO
>>31431678
hey i know im that grade triple a kosher nutritional 100% natural good as fuck bread but i aint an ingredient the only part of me goin in a mouth is my fuckin meat stick you know what i mean dude

hmm

>>31432232
hmm?

>>31432287
Hmmmmm

>>31432306
Hmm…!

what are you all thinking about?

OK. WELCOME NIJISISTER I AM SO EXCITED TO HAVE ANOTHER JP WRITER HERE I COULD EXPLODE FROM HAPPINESS!!!!!! ASK ME FOR ANY HELP AT MOST TIMES AND ILL DO IT!!! What did you have in mind for nijimales and 2434????

>>31432399
Idk… just say hmm and felt like hmmmming…

>>31432427
morning to you too, Alice

>>31432427
Ty ty!!!! I love you so very much and what you write. Umm, i forgor my ideas. Not wrote down and not good at expressing…

>>31432508
GOOD MORNING!!!!
>>31432611
THATS OK. I struggle with this too a lot!!! You fit right in with me in the smoll brain department. We will see if you belong in the based department in time….

Im back!!
What did I missed?

>>31432611
>>31432684
>inb4 she's a kusogaki as well
Lord help us they are multiplying...

>>31432784
Does ri2ner counts?

>>31432784
the gaki infestation is worse than you think. I was a pretty infamous mesugaki back when I was active on /trash/. I just keep it on the down low here since making teasing sexual advances on everyone would undermine my reputation as a voice of relative reason

>>31432845
i dont even know what ri2ner is anymore
She/he/it could be a shapeshifter for all i care

>>31432684
smol brain LOVE! This might be something but I think we need to update our map together... i don't know if i like the cities names and i look at other maps and feel like we are lacking. Also want to talk more about the rivalry between the shoguns!
>>31432784
not as loud as her but i guess i am... i did post in mans as OGsuner under his trip that one-time hehehe

>>31432845
No she doesnt.

>>31432773
We've been discussing the whole Province Proposal a bit more (the breaking up unrepped nations one) a bit more as well as discussing the rules that would come with it regarding the unrepped nations, in particular with /V7/ and bakatare, who would both have lore (and /V7/ in particular) made by reps from different nations. Honestly, too much to sum it all up nicely, at least for me, so I encourage you to read back on the thread.

>>31433021
>map
yes we do... but i think i need to seperate mentions of your lore into your own files and link them. OH, and also I need to make a proper lore doc instead of the mess I have.
>Posted as OGsuner
All right, you are now part of the based department kek

>>31433021
>i did post in mans as OGsuner under his trip that one-time hehehe
NOT ANOTHER ONE!

>>31433021
>post in mans as OGsuner
I kneel...you might have my seat, you based creature

>>31433168
It was too tempting not to do that.

>>31433153
Great ideas senpai! Let's do it! soon i will be back later...

How am I going to keep track of them now?
>She was the one that posted in mans as OGsuner
Kek, that was my favorite one because the whole thread responded.

>>31433292
OK!!! I will also be busy, just wanted to drop in and say hi!
>>31433416
Was going to post under my trip but now I won't just to troll you!! I hope she uses the same amount of exclamation points as I do now.

>>31433416
You defened her all those times and this is how the brat repays you kek

>>31433645
Kek, dragoon and alice typed similarly too so I am used to this. Retrobro will be the one having trouble keeping track more than anyone I think.

Odds on them both being Lolis too...

>>31433898
100%. The loli to shota ratio didn't match the quota.

>>31433988
Hey! Me and Lunaito are enough

>>31433988
Lunaito is the only one I need and want.

>>31434103
Paragraphsanon is one too.,

>>31434246
Wait hold up, he is?

>>31434246
What?!!

What even classifies as a shota nowadays?

>>31434403
Cute, short boys. Preferably with submissive personalities, the dominant ones are kind of lame unless paired with a milf.

>>31434510
Knowing that, I have one single, but very important question: CUTIEGOON HOW TALL ARE YOU?!

>>31434510
>the dominant ones are kind of lame
Do you realize how much willpower it takes to survive as the smallest man in a campus of giants?

>>31434698
Founder-kun...

>>31434698
Who let the gnome out?

>>31434698
I mean willpower is great and all, but it’s not very appealing for me when it comes from a little guy. No offense Founder, but I just wouldn’t sleep with you. Not because of anything /meat/ related, I just don’t like the concept of someone smaller than me trying to top me. Realistically, it sounds silly and they’d fail to do so due to how easily I could overpower them.

>>31435328
>I just wouldn’t sleep with you
Bro you aint a woman so no
Im just baffled my archetype got called lame

Speaking of shorties, thinking of how to refine the description of the citizens and remembered how big the whole 'I'm just a little guy' thing is in all of Tempus. I was making most people on the taller end but now I'm not so sure. Maybe I'll make Magmites more akin to hobbits/halflings, since Magni uses it the most (msgk males & dominant women). Maybe I'll even give them spider limbs on their back, which are used to chemically+surgically fuse with arm cloaks

>>31435714
Eh, it’s a matter of taste. You’re just not mine, not by a long shot. Also not sleeping with other men is kind of gay, to be honest.

>>31434103
Hello, founder!

>>31436052
>Also not sleeping with other men is kind of gay
Based and true.

>>31430650
Panon's Saga is far from worthless

but it is also a prime example of why writing your own view for other nations is problematic. Panon went to great lenghts to even ask threads if they are fine with him writing it and got for example free reign from /haha/ only for us later to find out that a different part of the thread had actually been working on their own lore for quite a while

and while this might have ended well. it still was quite the mess at the exact moment.

and while the people writing for other threads might have good intentions. Even just small things like writing them to be friendly with your own nations is already affecting the political landscape of the whole world. the more you write for them. the harder it will for someone new from those threads to feel like he can freely change it and makes them feel forced to adapt in order to cause less trouble which can lead to them just outright quiting right there.

and when they DO change stuff then also, the more has been build up for them and the more they have been used to itneract with other nations. the bigger the mess will be later when everythign will retroactively be retconned.

that being said. no one says you cannot write anythign at all. the /mhm/ rep having set up some basic lore for /v7/ seems fine to me. it would only be an issue the more this continues to move further and further

>>31436119
Ah, it's the one who knows forbidden knowledge. Yo! How are you? Where's PG and climateanon? We need the whole gang together

>>31431656
> I don't know if anyone here would know but we had some risuner (probably the same one) that went on a fucking menhera spree because she forgot to read his $5 SC.
OGsuner? Is it the same one?

>>31434628
Idk actually!!! I guess most of the time!!!! Lemme check!!!

>>31437733
baffling, truly baffling.

>>31434628
>>31437916
5'7!!!!!!

>>31436476
I started a gang war with /nasa/
This was my proposal
>>31420009

>>31438043
170cm AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA COME HERE YOU ADORABLE LITTLE THING

>>31438046
How that gang war went >>31419735

>>31438046
Bro... why did you do that?

Whelp. I got super comfy in my bed. I overslept but I feel refreshed. I want to write a schizo assault later tonight with panon. I have to get ready to go out of town now.

>>31437667
Not me. I remember that guy though, apparently he was a narcoleptic farmboy. I think at some point I wrote a story basically mocking that guy. Was funny as fuck honestly.

Is alice here????

>>31439055
Yes!!! What would you like from me????

>>31438403
Saviourfagging I guess. I'm disheartened and upset at the current state of /nasa/. Especially with both reps proposing either Lammington blows up or Sanalites suffered 80% casualties.
Cunt said it was okay to make the writing for /nasa/ collaborative. >>31262307 So I wrote an epilogue for fun. /nasa/rep said that the epilogue was ignorant towards anons that moved to roommate stuff.
So my compromise is to retcon that epilogue with respect to /nasa/rep's work but in return /nasa/ officially, in paper and de facto, becomes open collaborative for anyone who wants to write pre-graduation era lore.
However, to have your work become canon must meet conditions.
Check out the Act proposal if you may.

>>31439126
It's me, i don't know what to call myself but nijimalesrep but that sounds too weird. I have some ideas about nijimales. I like the dynamic we have going on with the two shoguns, but maybe we should explain why??

>>31439324
SOUNDS good to me... as for what i will call you...ummm who is your favorite female liver if you have one...calling you malerep would be weird and confusing with ENmales and MANS. we can go by your oshi fanbases name if you want...

>>31439480
Not every rep needs a name. NijiMaleRep is a bit of a mouthful when you type it out but NMrep would also do. Just let them slowly accommodate into the thread. Anons will come up with a way to call NjiMaleAnon soon enough.

>>31439480
female? Emma August. Kaida is my oshi though. I need to do some reps on what you wrote for males again....
>>31439640
Well, you see that nenmen also exists so that is just as confusing with NMrep. IDK. call me what you want to either one of you.

>>31439808
you don't have to namefag like me, just tell me its you honestly.
>what i wrote for males
Not much at all. although something that might be interesting that just came to me is that the males realm is more feudal than mine because i know that the thread doesn't have the same culture as 2434. Kaida is a based choice.

>>31440043
i wasn't a fan of namefagging either until it was pointed out we are going to get confused and that the other names will confuse more. Bloody hell, just call me Emma or Onnachan or whatever. Thought the same would make sense, but we need to figure out why two shoguns right?

>>31439188
>cunt said it was okay to make the writing for /nasa/ collaborative
Looks like he's wishy-washy about it. in hindsight he's like that all the time haha.
>disheartened and upset at the current state of /nasa/
I get your point. Even tho Cunt's moving on to /mans/, he's still droppin by the orphanage to give poor /nasa/ the belt. Sasuga dad of the year!
>/nasa/ officially, in paper and de facto, becomes open collaborative for anyone
I see. So in other words, fully immortalize cun't on word so that he can't belt /nasa/ anymore. Ingenious!

Now i'll read through your proposal
Section 1
>I will not remove every pre-established lore such as GD, Cassandra and her powers, Bread Dog production, and the named characters.
Thats a no brainer

>The absolute fate of Lammington will be leaving /vt/ to symbolize roommate followers.
toucan...
>The schizo attack will now have less casualties, signifying out-of-universe's calm graduation and in-universe's allies coming to help
that, makes a lot of sense really. I was surprised by how calm that day went. Pinned thread, a couple posts mourning or mocking her. Poof! No fallout like with rushia's.
>The remains of any space-tech left behind will be kept by Sanalite emigre. No looting.
...darn but understandable
>I will not make the Janny attack epilogue (https://rentry.org/vtwbg-nasaepilogue)) an absolute ending. That will be retconned into a rrat in-universe.
Heh. nice. i wonder who would spread such a rrat

>I will not shoehorn /meat/ in anywhere or anything here. The character's role is now as an observer/auxiliary. Not a driving force
>Same goes for any non-Sanalites at the time such as the Onobot, Risuners, Hoomen, Brrats, Saplings, and Lunaito party.
I can dig it. Xohildr will not do anything drastic and there'll be no /meat/ cult shenanigans. I mean, you wrote that in response to the satay saga anyways. Man that was a fucking mess.
I assume this section would require input from OGsuner, Retrobro, and Lunaito since their characters were present in Kirby village episode.

Section 2
>With the state of /nasa/ as a general is now legacy, dissolve power and authority to write for /nasa/ lore and establish a round robin one
No more reps, full council collabo
>Does not completely retcon the ending and any other established lore
Yeah
>Canonize only after the review and approval of multiple writers
Question: How? Since there's plenty of falseflaggers now. You could write something good but Cunt would employ his legion of throwaway IPs to say no
>Takes place before the Graduation Arc
Does that include the schizo attack? pretty sure that's during the graduation arc
>Any Sanalites mentioned in stories post-Grad Arc are considered emigrants/naturalised citizens who left before the Graduation Arc. Their status is up to the writer of whatever nation they are in
tldr: Sanalites that left /nasa/ are not /nasa/ property. nasfaqronie will love this

>Compile every, any and all unfulfilled ideas you and Cunt had. Every single scrap even rumors back in /nasa/ for these can be salvaged, revitalised, and improved upon
ohohoho... now this is spicy! if the /nasa/reps couldnt make these ideas work, just bounce them across multiple anons until it works
>Speculative wildlife, space wildlife, unique creatures on-board Lammington
I think /nasa/ rep wanted yaks
>Pre-descent space mythos and adventures. This includes their analogies of happenings on /nasa/ threads
I like this. we need more historical analogy stories
>Sanalite cultural rites and traditions that were not fully fleshed out
Question to /nasa/rep, are there any cultural stuffs you didnt finish conceptualizing?
>Every radical over the top ideas such as the Star-Child
ZASED. i want this! I might crack a hand at trying to write any theoretical/experimental /nasa/ stuffs

I have begun pillaging through the stormlight archives and have come across a part in the story where a girl gains power through eating. I will take inspiration from this account to fuel /ag/'s development and possible chuubanite use.

>>31440241
yeah thats true... fine you are now my sister, emma.

But to things that actually matter and what you brought up, from my understanding at one point in Japanese history, there was a Shogun of the North and the Shougun of the South or something like that. It's word for command in chief after all. Obviously, having a rivalry would be interesting too. I don't think there is much infighting between our threads at all. Here is a question for you, how do you see the culture being different?

>>31440470
Compared to 2434, we talk about males from across nijisanji so there would make oshis from other branches would be a part of the thread. Luxiem and Noctyx in particular are mentioned a good bit so there would be so immigrants from other branches. I am sure you know that we are chill like 2434. I like to think nijimales is like nenmen dialled down.

>>31440434
>Question: How? Since there's plenty of falseflaggers now. You could write something good but Cunt would employ his legion of throwaway IPs to say no.
Yeah I did not thought about that part thoroughly. If I were to say vote of confidence, that would be a bad idea because it'll make non-rep writers without trips uninvolved.
I am opening up to suggestions.
>>31440464
1. Sanderson explained it
https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/60916-how-does-lift-make-food-into-stormlight/
2. MFW

>>31440743
wish comfysenpai was here because he is the rep for nenmen....Yeah that is basically that thread but let's think of how to translate this in universe as to why the different cultures developed. I think you would be less shinto (2434) religiously and have some kind of uniqueness. Comfy mentioned clan behavior last night to me so maybe we can work something with that. (I need to phone post what he said)

>>31440786
Im starting to see where meatbro gets his ideas for Catalognauts from

>>31440937
https://rentry.org/rg32g
Here is what comfy senpai wrote. He is great!!!!

>>31440984
Do I really have to read Brandon Sanderson novels to understand /meat/bro's autism?

>>31441013
although I realized his point about little to no patriotism is true and i need to rework things. perhaps its the navy that feels this patriotism or something.

>>31440786
>Argent
>So if she eats like a cake it will give her more investiture--
>Brandon Sanderson
>Faster. It will give her faster.
I kneel eternally.

>>31441013
>>31441135
WOW. That helps me too a lot!! yeah nijisanji never really pushes brand loyalty like hololive does or even vshoujo does now. There is a point of contention i think about this however as nijifans, while generally not tribalistic (EN doesn't count), band together when we as a whole get attacked. Generally tolerant and accepting to each other and other companies except when we get attacked. I think that is why 2434 exists meta wise and why nijimales does too. Yeah, let's rework the culture together. I think your ideas are good but Comfy makes good points that we can work into both nations!!!

>>31441341
GREAT idea! Yeah, we need to work it all over again. It will hurt with some of the things but it could also explain my use of mercenaries too. a nice lore doc would fit it. We could have general information about the Empire and then link to seperate lore docs for each Shogunate!!!

>>31440786
>she is partially a Cognitive being now
https://coppermind.net/wiki/Cognitive_Realm
>the realm of thought or of the mind
>It contains the Cognitive aspects of both living and non-living things
It becomes clearer now

>>31441433
Can you start the main lore doc for us, i am still trying to figure out rentry.

>>31441520
Yes, i will do it now!!! Just so we have something for ready like a template that I will fill in. You can just title your main lore doc the name of your nation and i will link it.

Isn't there a pregnancy cult with vox in this world?

So /2343/ has 2 reps now?

>>31441579
i think the name should be Empire of Ichikara, not Anykaria.

>>31441663
no...this is a nijimalesrep.
>2343
2434....
>>31441810
hmmmmm.... It does make more sense because that is the old name of the company...

>>31440434
I still have some ideas for /nasa/ in the backlog. Realistically we can't save all of /nasa/'s history. Most of /nasa/'s data is shitposts on the intranet. What we can save for /nasa/ is everything printed in books and papers.

Obviously we will not leave behind blueprints to build nuclear bombs and viruses. What we will leave behind is /nasa/'s history books, legends (pop culture) via books and comics, music via records, survival guides, and recipe books. If you want to ask questions about any unused ideas I have then I'll be here. Most of the time. I'm leaving in about half an hour to go out of town. And I still have /2434/'s crops to finish.

https://rentry.org/Hanabatake-Shogunate
here alice, i figured out how to do something if you want this in the main one.

>>31441948
>Realistically we can't save all of /nasa/'s history
You do realized that he meant pre-graduation lore? Not in-universe data.
So if an anon wanted to write about a Sanalite's space adventure a hundred years ago he will have some idea what to use

>>31442129
OK.
>>31418457
archivesenpai, please be patient. myself and emma are doing an overhaul of NijiJP. For header, put Empire of Ichikara (Nijisanji) as the name with this as Lore Doc https://rentry.org/Empire-of-Ichikara
and two subheaders
Mononobe Shogunate (2434)
https://rentry.org/Mononobe-Shogunate
Hanabatake Shogunate (Nijimales)
https://rentry.org/Hanabatake-Shogunate

As for all current lore, just throw it under 2434 sub heading for now.... sorry...

I liked the idea of risuners killing them all just for the fucking lols. Not even OG, that's just funny.

>>31442294
I am going to spend some time speculating on the my side. If you need me, call!

>>31442614
Ok! I will be doing the same, because well, Comfysenpai kind of made me rethink a lot of my lore and made me realize that there is a reason why i was more interested in foreign things than local...

Going on a little break, I will be back at some point. Also, welcome emma? I am the representative for mep.

>>31441948
>If you want to ask questions about any unused ideas I have then I'll be here
I wanna hear all the weird ideas you had, the mythos and star child mentioned, and other stuffs you thought but never came to finish

>>31442281
Here I was thinking of anthropology for /nasa/. My mistake.

>>31442951
There there there

>>31442951
my bad. sorry if I sounded harsh there

>>31442793
Have a good break!!!!

Excited to see what those two come up with for NijiJP. I think comfybro hit alices problem on the head so a good rework is in order. My assistance is avaliable to both of you.

>>31443410
Thank you, PPsenpai! It’s going to be interesting to see how we develop this together but with Alice’s experience and the expertise of you, and Comfysensei i think it will be wonderful in the end. So happy i got the courage to speak up for meself today.

Idea for the ruins of /nasa/
Sanalites that stayed and Hoomen turned it into a tourist attraction

>>31443410
Yes. I will need your help mr. smart man on this but Comfysenpai is the one who i owe a lot to for his concept. PPsenpai love, Comfy senpai love!!

>>31443590
>>31443703
Just call for me anytime (well, i might get a job soon so be patient then) and i will use my autism when needed. Call on others too.

>>31420736
make sure to sneak in lots of coal and iron for us.
>>31423424
Competition? Oh we would never!
>>31424703
That's fine with me, I think adding in some dealings and agreements from the RID to /v7/ would be neat too, but I'm unwilling to commit to anything direct for now due to /v7/'s situation.
You are correct in that the Republic would be very interested in obtaining such techniques and diplomatic capital within Lusitania, I don't think we'd bomb anything or try to cause damage since Lusitania's place in the world is very convenient to a status quo.

Honest question, Why are we just now figuring out Nasa’s ending after having a month and a half to do it?

>>31444265
Me neither, i lost a lot of desire to write kek. Yeah, i thought you would try to steal blueprints or methods rather than use force.

>>31444333
Cunt and Nasarep are indesisive as fuck. (Shocker) and both were not in a good mental state to figure it out (another shocker.)

>>31444333
because Cunt and Breaddog had an argument about /nasa/ stuffs post-graduation. Again.
/meat/bro thinks that by making /nasa/ purely collaborative, meaning no reps needed to write for /nasa/ anymore, it will settle this dead horse time loop from coming up once again.

>>31444573
I fear that touching it will start it. If anything, lets wait a month before doing anything with them as that might fix the problem somewhat.,

>>31444573
Yeah.. while I appreciate meatbros optimism, i have no faith in this working considering that you have cunt and nasarep here. I know everyone wants a satisfactory ending but at this point, better off just having Risuners kill them all or something like that.

Alice, how will the navy work now if we are getting rid of patriotism? what are the new dynamics you have in mind?

Good morning, anons. If nothing unexpected happens, I should be free all day today! I will mostly spend this time working on the Kindred lore doc since I really do hope to push this out before I vanish again, but as always, please ping me if you need me. Gonna briefly skim over this thread now.

>>31444897
I like to imagine that /nasa/ is already a dead horse but it's attached to two batteries (cunt and nasarep) that occasionally jolts the horse to dance like frankenstein's monster.
/meat/bro's proposal is like... severing the two away and donating the horse monster to the museum or laboratory to be purified and properly restored and studied

>>31445012
COMFYSENPAI WE HAVE A NIJIMALES REP NOW AND WE ARE TAKING YOUR ADVICE. Also probably want your perspective on the males thread since you are smarter than us…
>>31444991
Well.. honestly, idk. The navy being just for me isnt right anymore so it will need an overhaul like everything else

>>31445012
Comfysensei, its nice to meet you!!!

Hey Panon! Since you love milautism with line soldiers, here's your chuubanite application
https://powdermage.fandom.com/wiki/Powder_mage

>>31438313
???? Isn't 170cm pretty normal????

>>31445333
Thanks! But honestly, i would rather make it mundane like Dragonsister did with Eliras. I did read the Chuubanite doc again but after talking with Mountain and Nasfaqronie, mundane seems the best path for me. Will keep this noted in case things change.

>>31445373
I dont know, i am 171cm personally.

>>31445468
>>31445373
Both of you are kings in your own right, way taller than me.

>>31445430
Even if you cant go hard magitech, chuubanite is still a great catalyst because it cuts plenty of middlemen
For example
>chuubanite can be used to apply rotational/kinetic force like a rotating a lift mechanism
Now imagine applying that to a bunch metallurgy equipment or mills
It might not be industrial era but it'll remove a lot of work

How many fem*les write for nijis, i feel like there is more of them then guys now.

>>31445468
>>31445581
Every man a king!!!!

>>31445707
Thats true. I need time to stew on this and a lot of things before i write again. Well, i also am going to stop for now until i find out if i have this job to adjust my schedule.

>>31445734
A lot!!! A lot of new writers joined!!!

>>31445734
Lets count
Men:
Panon
Dragoon(female)
Roseanon
Comfy
Krrep
Warkoprep
Not counting vnugger or the other writers for warkop
Vs.
Alice
Emma
2 kindred?
Rosemaiden
Dragonsister
I think there was a Briskadet but not sure gender. Perfectly balanced.

>>31445210
Good point about navy, its mine now hehe. But maybe we should wait until we got other stuff done???

>>31445936
>vnugger
this reads like it should be a slur

>>31446028
Kek.

>>31446010
yes…that is my plan at least.

>>31423398
looks good! finished the alphabet, how does this look? it has an admittedly odd graphematic fusion feature that i just added for aesthetic reasons, by accident it just ended up looking like fire lol. i chose syllable blocks because they are probably the closest any script can come to actually resembling korean, because it's a distinct hangul feature, also because it's pretty phonemically dense while also allowing for a more complex syllable structure

>>31430729
Oh shit, new nijifriend! Hello! For nijimales too! I doubt it'll surprise anyone that I've been hoping for one to show up, but that sure is a thing I've been doing. I watch many JP males and swing by the Nijisanji Males thread from time to time, so please feel free to call on me if you ever need help! ...If I'm here, that is...haha...

>>31440743
>immigrants from other branches
Yes, I think having immigrants from other nijinations would fit quite well. It should not conflict with the overall religious views of the area -- a big part of why I recommended Shintoism to Alice in the beginning is because it's an inclusive religion, not an exclusive one. Shinto is one of the few religions that is completely fine with its practitioners adapting other religions and is perfectly okay with incorporating foreign gods into their own worship, with Buddhism probably being the biggest IRL example of this.

>I like to think nijimales is like nenmen dialled down
I see what you mean, but having come from the background that is the absolute trash fire of /nijien/, our thread culture is quite different. Nijimales is generally a lot calmer, and there's also considerably less horny + socposting.

>>31441341
>There is a point of contention i think about this however as nijifans, while generally not tribalistic (EN doesn't count), band together when we as a whole get attacked
This is true! But the people not being particularly patriotic or nationalistic does not mean they don't love their country. In fact, I think it would make sense for the people to love their country -- as in the land itself -- quite a bit. But they would likely consider the land an entirely separate entity from the government. In fact, since it's Shinto and all, there is likely some believe that the land itself is a living thing deserving of love and respect. Hence, attacks against the land itself would still be met with fervent hostility, but disparaging and criticizing the government is unlikely to work anyone up into a nationalistic fervor. On a meta level, criticism of management when they do stupid things is very common, but it certainly doesn't mean fans hate Nijisanji as a whole.

>>31441649
Yes! Unfortunately the Kindred who is in charge of that has been scarce on /vt/ as a whole lately, but I did archive some conversations I had with her on their in-universe depiction here: https://rentry.org/q6n9h

>>31442733
Ah, I'm sorry this is going to destroy a lot of your lore, but I did suspect that might be the case. Part of why I've been so insistent on making each of the EN boys' fanbases their own nation despite the HRE border gore this will cause as the branch continues to get more male members is exactly because I feared that combining them all into one entity would cause future writers to feel the kind of lack of motivation that you seemed to be experiencing, so seeing it happen to you was quite disheartening. It was especially apparent after you expressed your frustrations at not being able to write about Ange. Even though this created more work for you, I hope it'll help you enjoy your time here more in the long run!

>>31445210
>>31445269
Once again, hello and welcome! I think the way Alice originally depicted nijimales as calm and isolationist is fitting. Personally, due to all the "please look at my wife/husband" type posts that happen in nijimales, I think I would make it a culture with a strong emphasis on family values. Of course if you're going with the individual towns idea I proposed yesterday, then this would be a general culture, and individual towns might be different. As for the navy...yes, you should probably wait to get that done until you've more firmly established the foundation for your countries. I think a big reason Alice lost interest in internal affairs originally is because she focused so much on superficial things like naval power and foreign relations without first figuring things out at home. Those sorts of things are rooted in a nations' history and culture, so establishing them first and then attempting to make the history work with it can turn things into a bit of a mess if you aren't very careful.

>>31445936
It's three kindred!

What is everyone working on?

>>31446560
No no, its fine to tear it all down!!! I understood my problem but didnt know how to fix it so i am happy i have a new friend to build with me. This is fine actually, as sol is busy a lot so i have plenty of time to work on this internal stuff with emma before turning back to other things. I dont think any of the foreign stuff is ruined per se either. I think the Kr and ID things make sense given they were absorbed into JP and Phase thing is more of a fun scenario. And I never actually thought about patriotism in the way of not criticizing goverment. Indeed, i have characters doing that for that reason!! I think maybe the reason there is two shoguns is down to two much land for one to rule alone? What do you think Emma and Comfysenpai??? Both i think also are family centric, as we have a lot of “i love my wife posts”

>>31446560
>HRE Border Gore
Good thing map ninimap 2.0 will zoom in massively (quite the project however.) so we can adapt easier

>>31446956
I was wondering how to make it make sense in lore “One emperor is not enough, let there be the Shogun of the West and Shogun of the East.”

>>31446956
Too much land to rule at once could work, certainly. Or -- and I personally find this an amusing explanation -- at some point in the distant past, the capital moved, and two separate members of the imperial family simply declared themselves Shogun in each location. Because the people honestly could not give less of a shit about whatever wacky thing is going on with their government now, it just...kept going like that.

>>31447025
I hope you're prepared for the border gore to get worse! I still need to fit in the new Iluna boys!

>>31447120
That make so much sense now!! And with PPsenpai's history basically having the Emperor sanction the colonization of the south set us all up so well. I am so excited!!!!!

>>31447286
Bro, we are lucky that the iLuna girls couldn't form a general. nenmen will end up looking like the HRE next year where you have cities and strips of land that are just scattered. I will make sure to make it actual border gore too. EN general will be an interesting thing to build in this context. Haven't been there in a while to know if anything has really changed.

>>31447286
I still like alices idea of the expansion of the empire causing this. like we could set an imperial zone somewhere inbetween where the Emperor is. I don't know if the two shogunates are rivals honestly either, i think there would be a stark different between your average citizen and the navy/merchants per se.

>>31447312
OH one thing, keep Suzuhara as a city name for lulu <3. But the rest need changed imo. I think we shouldn't name them after livers.

>>31445936
wait we have this many nijis already? For some reason i always thought there were like 3-5 at most even though I knew more by their thread assigned names. Holy fuck.

this is fascinating. And cool.

>>31447628
Kek, I was going to demand that as a condition actually. I miss her in Nijisanji so much but I am happy she is doing well now!!!! Suzuhara will stay the same, the rest will go!!!!

>>31447436
Glorious. I suspect /nenmen/ might have splits of its own in the future, because the arrival of Iluna bumped our daily IP count up. If new EN boys continue to bring new posters, disagreements and the desire for an individual space will arise eventually. But I suppose it will also depend on whether newfags actually post much. /nenmen/ slowed to an absolute crawl during that single week where Fuuchan and Vox's breaks overlapped -- it was like one thread every 2-3 days -- since Kindred and Comfydants are by far the most vocal posters there.

>>31447549
>>31447312
Perfectly fine! It was just a suggestion, after all. Since you two seem to have things in hand now, I'll let you discuss things between yourselves.

>>31447691
Sisters think alike! It will be weird to think of foreign policy with the both of us. I don't know if i want isolationist. Here is a thought, KAG is Nijimale and CIO is 2434.

>>31447879
Well... my personal thought was that both nations, since they would get permission from the Emperor would have investors in them from both honestly. Lets not worry about our diplomacy unless you are talking internally or with other members of Nijisanji.

>>31445373
I'm 186 sweetie. You are like the perfect height for kisses on the forehead

>>31447971
Quite, I am wondering how economics will work if things are more small communal based. Perhaps we don't need to tear a lot of your lore down by explaining the divide between the people in the large cities and the country. Internally.. I am not sure how Shogunate Japan did their taxes at all to figure out how this would work. Would the Imperial Navy be under direct Imperial control then?

>>31418457
Oh yeah, almost forgot. I suppose it's time to make the document official, in celebration of the location situation being hammered out. There's plenty of things I want to refine (particularly some cultural things) before I start writing stories or anything like that, but for now here's the main /MANS/ lore archive. First up on the agenda, refining the four peoples (and maybe give them names that are more... believable? in-setting) after stream reps.
https://rentry.org/ir5sq

I went diving for Renaissance-Discovery-Enlightenment era fantasy, both RL or original setting, for inspirations
These are some I picked up from forums and reddit

>Books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baroque_Cycle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Unreason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Stranger_Tides
And of course, Cosmere comes up again. A sequel set in the Early Modern era of that planet
https://coppermind.net/wiki/Mistborn_(series)#Era_2

>RPGs
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/374327/Helveczia-Picaresque-RPG
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/384686/Fleaux
https://axianspice.blogspot.com/2021/12/about-groats-worth-of-grotesques.html

>Movie
Imo this is literally /vtwbg/ the movie
https://youtu.be/xLU_GvlaTtI
https://youtu.be/ixbStXcVqW4
https://youtu.be/lJVIu_wNm4g

Bonus
While not Early Modern, this is the direction Vitubia is heading for if we start industrializing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkness_Series

Oh and for everyone talking about collaborative /nasa/, as I have stated in the previous thread: go suck a fat one. I will sooner write risuner smut myself than see a /meat/head, or anyone, dictate how our lore goes. This is on me and Rep and nobody else.
I will see no further arguments on this, the matter is settled and closed. Mainly because I have to go to work rn and I don't plan on dealing with you lot when I am on my break.

>>31448348
Logically, it would make sense with two shogunates for the navy to be unified...but the shoguns wouldn't want that because it takes away from their own power... unless we rework this completely in terms of the power dynamic between emperor and the two shoguns.

>>31448442
based

>>31448442
Fuck the squirrels it is then.

>>31448561
We can put our two braincells together on that later. I think I have a basic understand of what I am going to do with society and culture. I think bigger chuubas that receive more attention have more popular shrines and more cultural influences while smaller ones will have smaller towns devoted to them and villages. Like in concept, my idea is that cities, towns and villages form around a shrine or holy site for a Kami or near to it. That way Vitubium makes sense. Comfysensei, what do you think of this concept?

>>31448348
Sorry for butting in after just saying I'd let you two figure things out, but I do have some relevant knowledge here. The IRL Tokugawa Shogunate actually actively encouraged the isolation of individual communities by outright forbidding daimyo from interacting directly with one another without going through the Shogunate.If you're interested in doing your own research, this might be a useful resource: https://datascience.iq.harvard.edu/files/pegroup/files/constraining_the_samurai_9.15.pdf
And if you have a .edu email, this one as well: https://www.jstor.org/stable/132613

>>31448741
And by fuck of course I mean SEX in case it wasn't obvious.

>>31448785
AMAZING. That is something that never occured to me... I think some of the bigger chuubas likely have shared shrines and that there are many different shrines across the empire upon which this concept works. Bigger ports and cities likely have more cosmopolitan shrines like big torii gates or something that represent many chuubas, such as in a wave or something.

>>31448857
Thank you Comfysensei, I want you in this since you are good with this, like PPsenpai is with milautism. What did you think of this.>>31448785
and what she said>>31448918

>>31448442
>Cunt likes to talk about taking away nasarep's right to write /nasa/
>Yet he wont do anything
Takofriend is right.
>>31418488
New issue to be voted on
This proposal >>31420009
Immediately

>>31449031
what did Tako say?

>>31449031
>Cunt likes to talk about taking away nasarep's right to write /nasa/
When have I ever?