/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>Special
The roster result for out /vtl/ team came out, see here: >>30042825
Music for the medals are also decided: >>30323043
Polls for the team anthem is currently ongoing: >>31155689
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Last but not least, an anon stepped up and wanted to do a quick tourist's guide for the various nations of Vitubia! >>29911443
If you are up for it please submit a short text that introduces your nation by replying to this post.
More details in the rentry below.
https://rentry.org/ziuog

>Anchor post for the chuubanite concept.

PLEASE KEEP ALL CONCEPTS ON THE CONCEPTS OF CHUUBANITE TO THIS CONCEPT CHAIN. Anons who do not wish to see chuubanite concepts should hide this concept.

Current Concept: https://rentry.org/chuubanite (CIP)

Official Chuubanite Concept Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k

>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them!
Also suggest names for them!

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>>31302334
Kino! The mod grows.
>>31301799
Age of Empires II, the best one.

Moriji
Focus: Naval
Unique Unit: Goddess Faithful Priestess

Unique technologies:
Chuubanite Cannonry (Gunpowder units move 15% faster and +1 range)
Ghostling (Monastery units have +20% HP, +4 melee armor, and +2 attack)

Wonder: Frozen Catacomb

Civilization bonuses:
Naval units are 20%/25%/30%/35% cheaper in the Dark/Feudal/Castle/Imperial Age.
Melee units units have +1/+1 armor.
Dock and Monastery technologies are 33% cheaper.
Ships have +10% HP
Gold mining can be researched instantly.

Team bonus: Trade units generate +25% gold.

>>31305275

this was purely about sex appeal, i also did not choose korone for holo, besides i would not find korone sexy at all, she is more a fun friend.

and if its about retro gamer factor then sou is way more a retro gamer then rin.

>>31298876
>>31304904
Can anyone make a custom nation and test this out? Im too poorfag and dont have all the DLCs

>>31306088
Unfortunately, custom nations can not have multiple modifiers in the same idea.

Finished!!! I don't know why it took me so long!!! It was just some minor things to add!!!! I got a bit creative in the end as well!!!!
https://rentry.org/haha-religion

>>31306145
Just pick one that is useful to the gimmick then?

>>31305609
Oh boy, I can't remember anything from that game. I was always more of a Warcraft kid so I have no idea if this is balanced.

Mans
Focus: Infantry
Unique Unit: Adventurer

Unique Technologies:
Alchemical Payloads (Siege Workshop units' blast radius increased)
Humble Origins (Villagers can be upgraded to Adventurers)

Wonder: Royal Hall

Civilization bonuses:
Infantry and Villagers move 5% faster.
Resources last 15% longer
Garrisoned infantry fires arrows
Villagers, Infantry and Kings can garrison in Houses.
Lumberjacks generate 0.0385 gold per wood

Team bonus: Hunters have +5 attack against aggressive huntables, and carry +15.

>>31307939
>Garrisoned infantry fires arrows
>Villagers, Infantry and Kings can garrison in Houses.
Oh, those two form a very fun combo, that would totally change how you setup your base. Nice idea anon.

>>31306539
I mean, I don't really have to. I can already tell you that it largely works, except the Institution spread thing, since as it is an idea then it'll only work on provinces that you yourself own. Could go the silly route and make that a modifier for the religion itself though.

How about -25% Attrition for Risuners?
Their people are so adaptive and stubborn they're able to go through any terrain

>>31308127
That's the idea, to encourage building 'frontiers' so to speak. Glad you liked it!

>>31305609
Agreed
Anykarians
Naval/Mercenary Nation

Unique Units: Pomeranian Grenadier
Fire Cannon ship

Unique Techs:
Acceleration: Recruitment time -25%
Wave: instantly transforms all villagers into Pomeranian Grenadiers. Can be used multiple times

Wonder: imperial palace

Civ Bonuses
Naval Units cost only wood but amount increases
Port and university Tech cost 33% less
Naval Units gain 1/2 armor
Wood chopping tech is free
TEAM BONUS: Trade Units move 25% faster, exploration is free.

>>31308613
>Wave: instantly transforms all villagers into Pomeranian Grenadiers. Can be used multiple times
Absolute chaotic insanity. It's perfect.

My opinion is that it is not the land that makes a nation but the people. Thoughts?

>>31308776
No, what makes a nation is the people's average skill at Age of Empires II.

>>31308613
Alice this is unbelievably broken, kek. Would be the best naval civ in game.

>>31305593
Holy shit
It's one to one
Guess it was only a matter of time

>>31308736
Inspired by Burgundians.

>>31306223
I mean, I read it like 5 times already and I say this every time, but great lore entry sweetie, even if it goes over my head a little. Don't forget to anchor it though.

>>31308935
I'd balance it by making Wave not a tech, but something that happens every minute whether you want it or not.

>>31309053
Should be gold based on how many villagers.

Hot Take. I love age III a lot too, II is the best. IV needs more civs. One has terrible unit pathing but its good.

>>31309189
Absolute zero take, there's a reason AoEII is the one that got re-released seventeen times.

>>31309279
Nah but I think III is really underrated. Its been amazing since definitive.

>>31309335
What is it like, compared to AoE2? Was never that into the series, and all I know about AoE3 besides its campaigns is that people complain about how busted my nation is

>>31310400
Very unique. Each nation feels different and you use shipment cards. Hard to explain, i would just look up gameplay. I love it.

>>31309335
nah not a hottake at all, 4 just sucks and 1 is clunky and only for those that really have the nostalgia goggles for it.

>>31309021
Tyty!!!! It's an update so no need to!!! Also I had to use an AI generated image because some of the images I found on google weren't the ones I was looking for!!!!

>>31311166
Damn, big brain starts right there

>>31311215
Its interesting how you gloat about how you dont read lore. The exception being the lore of someone you erp with.

Is it hate nasa day?

>>31311585
Nah, I just find Cunt to be a worthless poster in general. If he wants to improve, he would start by changing his attitude there.

>>31311711
Nah. He can learn with time.

>>31311972
He can. But as I said, he needs to change his attitude about a lot of things.

>>31311422
I mean!!! It's a short lore page!!! And I bothered him quite a bit to read it!!! I even made him write an extensive feedback on it!!!!

>>31311711
>>31312039

Word cloud for last bread.

>>31311585
man fuck you you stupid bitch im gonna hump your leg and cum on your pants and its gonna make this white stain that makes you look like a fuckin dumbass

>>31312274
Bread dogs are robots, they can't cum.

>>31312311
nah bitch i got augments im custom made im sponsored by bad dragon or whatever i got a dick like a hog and nuts like a squirrel you feel me

>>31312713
Damn, based.

>>31312713
In other words you're illegally modded.

>>31312836
>illegally modded
not those are such evil words to simply describe the upgrading and improving of good and reliant technologies to make them more compatible with new and exciting situations.

Man I love when I get the runs and put my hand down there and get some chocolate icecream right for the source. Mmmmmm. Tasty.

>>31312818
damn right i am im a fucking mutt im wild im crazed im running around putting my dick in bitches that dont even know my name
>>31312836
damn right my dicks a criminal and ive committed multiple felonies all over the planet

Good thing I have a tripcode now.

>>31313806
Paragraphsanon…

>>31313806
What is Vitubia's Interpol?

Coining some names to myself and was wondering what to use to denote as something being of /mans/. Should the people as a whole keep being referred to 'the four peoples' or 'Elysians' after the island, and should the eventual navy be the Mans navy or the Elysian navy... What do you guys typically do for this kinda stuff?

>>31313923
Absolutely nothing wrong with going with the straightforward answer for something like this, especially since "Elysian" sounds pretty nice and cool as an adjective. You could try looking up the names of peoples from fiction, especially ones similar to Elysium and see what they came up with. Maybe you can do something with the sounds "quad", "tetra", "quattro" which relate to four of something. I find the best ideas just kind of strike you out of nowhere and you can't really force them though.

>>31313806
This is the one bread dog story I would read. Make it happen please!

>>31305241
https://rentry.org/De-Zeventien-Provincien
Doing newfriend a favor, this needs anchored under wah. Very… dutch national name.

>>31313847
this look like a paragraph to your bitch ass? punctu. fucking. action. bitch.
>>31313866
me motherfucker im the criminal and the police im a one stop shop for international laws and crimes
>>31314110
give me that sloppy and ill think about it

>>31314697
Nah, I only blow kronies. Deal off the table, sorry.

>>31314893
the audacity of this bitch

>>31313847
i'm not that anon.

>>31314105
Fair, but that sparked an entirely different idea. Like Christians have their cross, I might similarly use a 'Tetracolumnae' as a religious symbol and possibly necklace accessory.

>>31315145
Ideas be like that! That has a nice sound to it.

>>31314893

>>31315453
Don't see how that is at all related to the convo, but you do you, /ringo/ loli.

>>31315453
what if you beat to beating women?

>>31315656
You blow kronies, I blow up kronies. This is how we are different.

>>31315767
>deal blows to
could have worked also.

>>31315793
Perhaps but explosions are more cool
>inb4 alice is threatening war
Kek

Hey /wah/ler, if you're here, is this a decent representation (minus the modern clothes) of what a take would look like, or are you going 100% human?
https://twitter.com/ku_roiko/status/1533926301240700928

>>31315767
Except you don't have the balls to start a war with /inf/ while I would readily suck a kronie off if he whipped his dick out.

>>31316009 (me)
*Tako, damn phone trying to correct me

>>31316061
>i dont have balls
Keen observation. You dont have the balls to write lore worth a damn, indeed, some Albanian will be balls deep in you soon than any kronie!!!

>>31316252
Holy shit alice, he’s already dead.

>>31316252
>Albanian will be balls deep in you soon than any kronie!!!
Been there done that. Eh, 6/10

And yea, I don't write lore worth shit, mainly because I don't care about this project anymore and am only here to stir shit nowadays. Like just look at the latest timeloop. That was all me influencing vespie to start shit on my behalf.

I'll stick with surface crops analysis. Thanks. /2434/ is next I think.

>>31316469
What nations are in the queue?

>>31316383
Weak. If you really wanted to start shit you would pretend to take it seriously for while before pulling carpet out. Cat is out of the bag, you played your hand and have little to show for it!!

>>31316469
Thank you nasasenpai.

>>31316383
Cunt 2.0 be like

>>31316583
Cannot even be a good villain!!!

>>31316504
/2434/. Then Lazulight's other kingdom. I don't remember if I had anyone else on the list.

>>31316582
If elderly mom's feeling better I'm going to church tomorrow. Then I have afternoon shopping. Monday I'll be out of town. So I should have something by Tuesday if not Wednesday.

>>31316538
True, I need to step up my game. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go dark for a few weeks, before reappearing as a anon rep for a new nation, write their lore for a few weeks/months before starting some more timeloops, in the end revealing it was me all along! Hirys seems like a good start.

>>31316807
Honestly I'm not sure anyone could be more schizo than a real Irystocrat.

>>31315993
explosions don't let you be personal with it. you can't spit in someone's face before their body explodes without either putting yourself in danger, doing it from afar like a pussy, or having a wimpy explosion that loses the whole point of explosions. peel their face off, tear their teeth out, stitch the teeth to one side of the face skin and roll it up like a newspaper and wack them in their stupid bloody face until their eyes get knocked out of their sockets.
>>31316383
you somehow lost your dick measuring contest with alice, a bratty loli french woman. i thought sanalites were supposed to be well endowed. are you ok, man. do you want to talk about it with us?

>>31317158
>you somehow lost your dick measuring contest with alice, a bratty loli french woman.
Wait am I missing something was that a dick measuring contest?

>>31317158
>french
Worse than a frenchie, she's a leaf larping as a frenchie who eats this travesty of a cuisine

>>31317689
That looks fucking delicious

>>31317358
she said >>31315453 in response to his soc/emo-posting. the rest is kind of sad, desu.
>>31317689
what is that?

>>31316763
Would you like to do /morig/? We've got a biome map.
Worldbuilding thread, by the way.

>>31318130
>emo-posting.
Mate are you ok? Explain to me, in no less than 200 words, how saying I only give blowjobs to kronies is emoposting. And I still don't see this dick measuring contest you mentioned.

>>31318298
I thought you already have crops listed as resources?

>>31318599
We've got a couple, but another point of view might be nice. Our list is very far from comprehensive.

>>31318815
Your climates are pretty complicated. Plus you're a volcanic island. It'll take me a while to figure things out. Like with /vrt/'s alien wet savanna. That was fun.

>>31319288
I thought it might make for an interesting challenge.

>>31318584
you yourself said you were feeling nihilistic, and you're taking it out on other people. that's what it looks like to me. your post about the kronies was a single post post, but your attitude has been seemingly emo and defeatist for a while, at least as far as i have seen. are you telling me this is incorrect?

>>31319476
It'd be more research but okay.

>>31320067
Ganbare nasarep!

>>31319983
>feeling nihilistic
Well yea, that's been my state of being for the last 8 years or so?
>you're taking it out on other people.
Idk you tell me, like honestly. From my point it has just been banter like usual.
>emo and defeatist for a while
Have I really come across like that? Hm. Idk what to tell you man, if you are referring to posts like >>31316383 that's just me stating facts about myself. Don't see how that would be considered emo and defeatist.

>>31320478
Could write about spec bio stuff.

>>31320633
Nah, I would rather see what anons come up with themselves than try to push my vision of their animals onto them.

>>31320478
maybe i'm wrong then. sorry if that's the case. i wasn't just refering to the stuff you were saying here, but if you have been this way for 8 years then i guess i just didn't notice it. i felt like there was something that changed about your banter recently but i have misunderstood stuff before.

>>31321556
Eh, don't worry about it. If anything really did change about my banter, it's probably just from being slightly tired the last couple of months due to a new job.
But enough about me, worldbuilding thread btw. What lore you guys working on that I will never read?

>>31322837
more chuubanite stuff atm.

>>31322837
Reading this battle account to understand how a coastal battle is fought. https://www.warof1812.ca/kingstonharbour1812.htm
>>31323297
Oh, what chuubanite stuff?

>>31323423
i explained artificial glyphs, and how it could be used to create artificial gods

>>31323704
Sounds interesting, elaborate?

>>31323905
basically, i compared the conceptual realm to meme culture and said that manufactured memes typically don't stick, but under certain conditions can work, either accidentally or on purpose. also, i explained a bit about how artificial glyphs worked. for the most part, i was just explaining how the system we currently already have could explain how /asp/otheosis would work. i want to talk to /meat/bro specifically to think of a few ideas of how to make it as difficult as possible to actually do to keep it relatively rare, since he is probably going to mention it in some of his stories at some point.

>>31325041
Sounds fun. Those are chuubanite glyphs? Could make it as simple as "glyphs this strong kill 99% of people" or something like that. Or maybe the glyph has to match the person in a very specific way that is impossible to predict, otherwise it doesn't work.

>tatoo girl head to toe
>make Kiki
Checks out.

>>31325839
glyphs are separate from tattoos. glyphs are the symbols themselves, there is nothing about glyphs that is inherently tied to people, and there is absolutely no reason it would kill people or be impossible to predict unless it was specifically designed to do that, given the fact that the advantage of a glyph is it's ability to be programed.

>>31326309
Well... /asp/otheasis is something that happens to a person, no? Can you /asp/otheose a table?

>>31326400
Yeah there should be a process IMO. Like using some method to infuse someone with chuubanite before the glyph is applied. I don't want to reference other media too much but maybe like the trial of grasses in the Witcher. There's always a chance of failure and it needs a lot of preparation, like how real vtubing would be.

>>31326165
it's more related to forcibly creating, and then strengthening a concept in the conceptual realm that represents a chuuba that doesn't necessarily exist. it's in some ways the reverse of transubstantiation, where instead of having a concept substantiate something physical, it's something physical that is substantiating a concept.
>>31326400
yes. you could also have a personification of a table that looks like a human if you want, but their concept has to ultimately be that of a table.

>>31326683
Ah, I see. Then perhaps instead of being deadly to people, the process could generally just be challenging for the concept. Basically, if you tried to /asp/otheose a table, the Heavenly Realm would "push back" against this new concept, and erode it. If the table's conceptual power was insufficient, its table-ness would be destroyed. For physical objects, that could translate to the object becoming amorphous. Maybe something whose concept is singing would lose the ability to make sounds.
And if the entity's concept is strong enough, it is able to enforce its concept into the Heavenly Realm and /asp/otheose?

wiring prompts for AI generated images is really fun!!!! I might even write a small lore page because of it!!!

>>31328030
Which one are you using? I used Midjourney to make the /morig/ jellyfish, I agree it's a lot of fun.

>>31328113
It's midjourney!!!! The only problem with it creating multiple accounts due to the free trial limit!!!! I was testing how good it is and it's like really great!!!!

>>31328264
hh I should proofread more!!! I'm really sleepy!!!

>>31328264
>>31328404
If you haven't, try playing with the --quality tags and such, or use image URLs in the prompt, it can really change the outcome of the generation. Running into the trial limit is my issue too, I'm half tempted to buy one of the subs.

>>31327073
>the Heavenly Realm would "push back" against this new concept and erode it.
spagettification is the proper term for how it works. looks like you haven't read the previous stuff on chuubanite, but it also looks like you accidentally stumbled on the answer we have been using for a while despite that fact. by strengthening a concept, i mean making it more closely tied to whatever it means. in the conceptual realm, ideas are broken down into their base parts, but it cannot be reformed unless the thing going through it is defined to be itself. if something with the concept of singing, as well as something else were put through the conceptual realm, it would be torn apart and disassociated. if the concept was pure, such that whatever it was returning with was part of it's definition, it would be fine. you need to find a way to tie some aspect of a concept with it's definition, and for that, artificial concepts are needed, which can take the variable of the loosely defined and give it a firmer definition that can survive that environment. to form a glyph, you need to meet a variety of criteria, many of which can be compared to machine learning. at least one criteria would probably be that it has to be done during a time of chaos in the conceptual realm so that things are unstable and therefore can be modified, but everything else is like that. read my stuff on scale or scope for more detail on what can be communicated through chuubanite to and from the conceptual realm. btw, i am a bit tired. just wanted to say incase i am saying something stupid.

>>31327073
>the Heavenly Realm would "push back" against this new concept and erode it.
spagettification is the proper term for how it works. looks like you haven't read the previous stuff on chuubanite, but it also looks like you accidentally stumbled on the answer we have been using for a while despite that fact. by strengthening a concept, i mean making it more closely tied to whatever it means. in the conceptual realm, ideas are broken down into their base parts, but it cannot be reformed unless the thing going through it is defined to be itself.
if something with the concept of singing, as well as something else were put through the conceptual realm, it would be torn apart and disassociated. if the concept was pure, such that whatever it was returning with was part of it's definition, it would be fine. you need to find a way to tie some aspect of a concept with it's definition, and for that, artificial concepts are needed, which can take the variable of the loosely defined and give it a firmer definition that can survive that environment.
to form a glyph, you need to meet a variety of criteria, many of which can be compared to machine learning. at least one criteria would probably be that it has to be done during a time of chaos in the conceptual realm so that things are unstable and therefore can be modified, but everything else is like that. read my stuff on scale or scope for more detail on what can be communicated through chuubanite to and from the conceptual realm. btw, i am a bit tired. just wanted to say incase i am saying something stupid.

>>31328862
also i want to wait for /meat/bro.

>>31328862
kek paragraphs, I've been here for like 6 months, consider that I might have stumbled on the right answer because I've read the chuubanite stuff. I did miss your singular post about spaghettification. The stuff related to how the glyphs come into it make sense, thanks for explaining.
seeing you delete and repost with carriage returns brought a tear to my eye, I'm so happy.

>>31328611
Wdym!!?? I usually end the prompts with "high quality, upscaled" or something like that!!! I don't have money atm to subscribe to it so I created like 4 accounts just to mess around!!!!

>>31329741
Oh anon, you gotta check out the extra parameters! Most Midjourney newfags don't know about them, but they can let you do some really cool shit!
https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/imagine-parameters#quality

>>31329877
Wow I didn't know that!!! I'll definitely try it out later!!!! I'm on mobile most of the time so idk if it'll work as well as on pc!!!! I was trying to make military medals and badges and some turned out to look pretty good!!!

>>31330183
Wow, that does look great! It's all server side, so it'll work just as well on mobile, unless you mean it might be annoying to type out the prompt on your phone kek.

>>31329485
you missed the multiple long conversations i have had explaining how the conceptual realm works, and how communication through it requires an acknowledgement of scope, and how parent/child concepts are interpreted in the conceptual realm. more likely, you just didn't remember that specific detail of it. understandable, but recent conversations have been especially focused on it, so idk what to say. erosion is a similar, but distinct concept that implies a different process that achieves, for the most part, the same effect, with the exception of what you said, since something with the concept of singing would be pure, and thus would be expected to retain its being in full. with that said, i'm glad you found it interesting and hopefully informative. i feel like i should go to bed soon, but i'll wait for a few things i guess.

>>31330299
Hmmmm okay!!!! I think I'll create another account or two to test it out!!!! But I'm a bit tired now so I'm going to sleep!!!

>>31330447
>>31330602
Good night to both of you!

>>31282789
I thought about it more and I think prostitution's legal in /vnug/ but well-hidden. If Liora's streams are anything to go by, open display of horniness (outside summer solstice) is frowned upon, but it's fine to be sexy or even freaky in private where no one else have to see it
I guess that means no soliciting or marketing on the streets, and the red light district will look pretty much the same as other parts of the town to untrained eyes. I guess the closest analogy would be how people imagine high-class brothels like in Yoshiwara

>>31331729
brb gonna go find some valkyrie dominatrix ladies in /vnug/.

>>31334263
Palkyries probably aren't humans but I'm not judging. There will be human followers of the valkyries tho

>>31334366
>implying this is an issue by any stretch of the imagination
What kind of beings are they?

>>31334665
We don't know yet, since Liora commissioned an artist to design our look, but the result won't be revealed until at least next week. We're probably supposed to be some kind of possum with (vestigial?) wings, but it's complicated by the artist not knowing what possums are even after Liora sent pictures of them, so the design end up being "as long as it's cute"
I might take some liberties when translating the design to this world depending on the end product

>>31334366
>t3 members are called Whalekyries
Architect bros are gonna love this kek

>>31334855
Sounds cute as fuck! Especially with Liora's extra instruction kek. Let us know if you want to get any speculative bio going, there's a lot of potential there...

>>31334855
Rodent people again...and unlike risu, actual waste of god tier sex design of the chuuba....fuck my life.

>>31335036
>implying possums are rodents (they're not, they're marsupials)
>implying possums aren't adorable

>>31335108
>implying they are not still a fucking rat

>>31335162
ogey

>>31334947
I don't know how easy it is to get fat in subarctic climate...

>>31334951
I'll definitely inform the thread when we get the design out!

>>31335036
Some of the followers are humans (and other species if we ever get designs for the other fanbases) if that helps

>>31335210
>I don't know how easy it is to get fat in subarctic climate...
Funnily enough, animals living in the arctic tend to be fattier than others, since fat makes for nice thermal insulation. Well, if they get to eat sufficiently, but if you have a carnivorous diet it's possible to get enough calories to put on weight if you're a good hunter. Well-fed polar bears can get pretty chonky.

>>31335210
Waitwaitwaitwait hold on a second hold the fuck up. I just looked at the other members and is that a fucking loli(?) Irys?? Penelope I mean. Like fuck man, slap some horns on the little girl and you're set.

>>31335210
Yea, as the other anon said, you either go fat or fur if you are living in colder climates, usually both.

>>31335323
>>31335432
I'll look more into it! I think I might've confused it with how Inuit diets are high in fat but they usually don't get the issues you get from a high-fat diet

>>31335349
Her horns grow on the inside... https://youtu.be/1Dq-YZXtfOc?t=324
She's definitely worth checking out if you're into more musical content (piano, also some singing) and/or gamer brat. Personally I think her ESL level is at just the right place where she's intelligible but still have cute moments because of it

I finally finished an outline for /ggg/! I wouldn't call any of this canon yet because theres more that needs to be added. It took longer than I thought because I haven't written anything since high school and because I'm stupid. Anyway, here it is, a very rough outline of some basic lore
https://rentry.org/n27ck

>>31335780
>I'll look more into it! I think I might've confused it with how Inuit diets are high in fat but they usually don't get the issues you get from a high-fat diet
Oh, yes! If I recall correctly, inuits have genes that results in less LDL cholesterol being produced (that's the type that tends to cause cardiovascular issues). Only tangentially related, but inuits also have adaptations where they tend to grow brown fat instead of white fat more than other populations. Brown fat can burn glucose to generate heat and is denser than white fat, so it's extra useful in cold conditions.
>>31336160
Nice, let's take a look.

>>31335780
>Inuit diets are high in fat but they usually don't get the issues you get from a high-fat diet
It's more about the energy consumption than just fat diet iirc. The thing is, inuits get almost 3/4 of their daily energy intake from fat, so little actually gets stored as, well, fat fat. The problems only really happen when you exceed what your body would naturally burn off and keep on consuming fatty foods. That's why diabetes and obesity are actually becoming a problem with inuit population now that they are modernizing and more foods, specially fast foods, are available to them.

>>31336160
TOURISTBUUUUUUUUUUUUD!!!!!!!!!!

>>31336160
Welcome back! I see you already have a solid outline, just needs to be fleshed out more. A lot of anons here are ESL so no need to feel too self conscious about your writing. See it as a fun way to improve it.

>>31336160
Good stuff. Buildings made of coral sounds aesthetic as fuck, should put that in one of those AI generators like dragoon, those are good at buildings. The Last Chumbud could be the Last Deadbeat's friend at the end of time kek. Good to see you again.

>>31336160
Welcome back!
>Architecture looks like Ancient Greece
>Buildings are made of coral
Are they colourful or bleached (or both)? Bleached/dead corals resemble how ancient Greek architecture looks like nowadays, but we know back in ancient times, Greek buildings are probably painted quite colourfully, just like a healthy coral reef. I won't be surprised if the chumbuds figured out some ways to preserve the colours of coral reefs even when harvested as building material.

>>31336233
>>31336300
>>31336326
>>31336566
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Heres an ai generated picture of coral buildings. Most buildings would be colorful but some of the older buildings might be more bleached and weathered

>>31336160
It all looks nice so far, but one thing I would like to discuss a bit more is the "Limited by lack of fingers" under technology. Would you even be able to achive any kind of technological advancement at all without not only the thumb, but fingers in general? I would presonally suggest you add at least a pair of auxillary arms with maybe some sort of rudimentary clawed hands.

>>31336728
That, or a bunch of extra tiny clawed limbs shrimp would have, which basically works out to the dexterity/ability to manipulate of hands.

>>31336728
Chumbuds should be able to trace their evolutionary lineage all the way back to /jp/, unless chumbuds in /hlgg/ are represented as normal humans. So even if they don't have the capability to produce more advanced tools, they could have bought them from those who can.

>>31336827
That, or they could have been techonlogically uplifted by the HLGG empire or other holothreads

>>31336199
That sounds about right! Would having more brown fat mean they won't look as far as someone with the same weight and level of fat (but have mostly white fat) due to the higher density? I have a feeling some might prefer the aesthetics more than the weight itself…

>>31336203
That makes sense. Most of the Palkyries likely have a fairly active lifestyle both because of the time period and the focus on hunting, so I imagine fat ones will be mostly limited to cities, maybe among people seeking a different career path?

>>31336728
It would depend on how technologically advanced we are. A claw can hold basic tools with handles and use levers. It would be like using a hand with two very strong fingers instead of five. But stuff like that is what I still need to work out

>>31336827
So the humanity in 40k situation, where they don't produce new tech, just upkeep existing one?
Idk, I would rather see him go with something like >>31336806 where he could then keep pure claw "hands" but have multiple of them.

The idea of getting all their technology from other threads also gives them a hard upper ceiling they can+t breakwithout the help of other nations, which just doesn't sit right with me desu. Still, it's up to touristbud in the end.

>>31336901
>That sounds about right!
Indeed, that's why there are a lot of fad diets for menopaused women to "convert white into brown fat" (they don't really work well kek).
Brown fat is a small proportion of body fat though, so I'm not certain how big a visual difference is plausible, but that's something to play with.

>>31337002
https://pastebin.com/qersPVta
Ok moot

>>31336965
And that's why we are here, to bounce off ideas!

And to further expand(sorry if it seems I am giving you a hard time on this btw, spec bio is kinda my shtick) on the claws, beside the lack of three extra fingers, you would also be contending with a lack of joints in them. So it wouldn't really be just two fingers, it would be two fingers, but you can't bend them. Try it in real life and see if you can do anything kek. That's why I said I doubt you could achieve any technological advancement without at least some rudimentary "hands", if nothing more than just multiple sets of smaller claws that would be more dexterous.

>>31337204
I like the idea of having multiple claws. I can imagine a skilled shrimp craftsman utilizing all his claws to work really fast

>>31337358
>chumbud secretaries and typists be like

Uhh geologyAnon if you are here what do you think the type of iron ore in /who/'s IOCG and VMS deposits would be? And what about coal? Would there be any coal and iron deposits that intersect or are relatively close to each other? I spent some time watching an ore deposit 101 guide but since I don't know the specifics of how the Rrat mountains \formed I'm not sure what the characteristics of the iron ore produced would be. Would they be relatively free of phosphorus? The close availability of high quality iron ore would change the metallurgical history of /who/ quite a lot. Or should I ignore it and have a couple of big mines with relatively high purity iron ore just for shits and giggles?

morning(?)
its 5:50pm here
stayed up all night finishing paperwork commission
what up?
>>31328987
am here now

>>31338697
>inb4 /who/ has no iron at all and is completely dependant on /rrat/ for it
fucking kek

>>31338697
The rrat mountains formation is discussed in the tectonic rentry.

>The eastern boundary of the plate is a convergent one between a continental and a continental plate. The Major Holo Plate is being subducted under the Council plate, leading to the formation of massive orogens on the Eastern parts of the Council Plate, as well as the formation of basins on both sides of the orogens.
So, the council plate and the major holo plate are pushing against each other, causing folding and breaking of the crust. Where subduction happens, its the major holo plate subducting under the council plate and lifting up the council plate.

The closest real world equivalent is the himalayas, I think.

Im not the primary geoanon, so take my take with a pinch of salt

>>31341213
Guten morgen, clock.

>>31338697
Unfortunately, who has relatively poor iron and coal deposits.

what is the vote looking like, do you think option c is the one for v7 so i can start on my map for it?

>>31341779
Wait till it's finished.

>>31341779
The "2 weeks before voting" rule hasn't come into action yet, so it's still possible that twelve nations join the thread and swing it.

>>31306088
>>31306145
>>31306539
Do not worry. I got it all under control.
I'm using Maldives as my guinea pig.

>>31336160
Glad to have you back Crustacean friend!
One interesting thing that comes from this, the idea of being "the last chumbud" could probably be a pretty dangerous meme. It could lead to a radical sect of Chumbuds who deliberately try to kill off all other chumbuds so they could force a scenario where they'd be the last chumbud, which would be something really interesting to write about.

Just my thoughts though. I'm not going to back seat someone else's writing. I'm sure you have your own direction you'll want to take Atlantis' lore.

>>31341314
/who/ is still quite big. Would the deposits formed in the West by leaching from the Eastern deposits be relatively free of things like phosphorus? Would the resulting VMT type deposits be a little easier to work with? And although I need to look into this more but are apatite-iron oxide type deposits possible to be formed in /who/? The video I watched said that IOCGs vary quite a bit in terms of quality. Even if the general quality is poor industry would probably still pop up in places where they are more readily exploited.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190412085223.htm

>>31304904
>Spreading normalcy damaging ideas to the Kaisereich
Adölf Vötzmich and the Schwarzwerbung Division fighting an ideological war with the meat bros is a really sick story idea, and if I wasn't already writing for a whole arc already then I'd start writing it right now.

>>31341927
Done!

>>31342869
I see we thought the same when first reading that, fellow ass enjoyer haha

Gm!!!! Another day another slay!!!!

>>31343191
Mornin babe. Slept well?

>>31343153
>>31341927
>/meat/ being the mvp again
WTF?!

>>31343191
Morning haha friend!

>>31343153
Oh yeah
If some ideas are different from the code
It's because i dont have all the DLCs

>>31343214
>>31343270
Hi!!!! I slept four hours I think!!!!! I kinda want to do something with all these midjourney images I have!!!!

>>31341927
>>31343153
>/meat/ is the first
As is tradition

>>31335036
yo cunt honest question did you get raped by a squirrel or something as a kid? You seem to have a real unnecessary hatred for "rodent people"

>>31345602
Mate, I live on a farm. Rats around here grow big enough and ferocious enough that our german sheperd might get scared of the fuckers, and I can't even count how many of our kittens they have killed over the years. Hell, I have seen one of them kill an adult cat. Safe to say, I really fucking dislike them, and rodents in general.

>>31346280
damn, that must've been a big rrat.

>>31346280
cunt... you shouldnt let your irl biases affect your view on fictional creatures
I dont think risuners are going around raping cats
or well
at least they wont kill them

>>31346633
>I dont think risuners are going around raping cats
......you yourself don't believe that, stop lying to yourself.

>>31346280

>>31346633
>>31346685
No the squirrel people are not going to rape cats. Rape in general is a crime believe it or not in /risu/. Its also not really fucking necessary given the overall tolerance of sex and abundance of hookers. If you need to resort to rape in /risu/ then your a real fucking loser.

>>31346725
Yea, ours are like the crackheads of rats. You don't fuck with farm rats, those little shits will cripple cows if you let them. They will actually chew on their ankles while they sleep and cripple them. One of our neighbours lost a cow that way. And I fucking wish I was making that up...

>>31346799
Pretty sure you considered having sex with a mossback tortoise in /nasa/ at one point...

>>31346922
not a risuner but
"consider" is not the same as actually doing it

>>31346922
I didnt write that shit. That was on one of you. I have never considered bestiality to be a thing ever. Hell I never even considered gays and lesbians until some people started writing it and i thought "yeah i guess they would exist"

rodent and rodentlike themed chuubas love!!!

>>31347018
btw OG now is the time if you wanna see big booba lumi

>>31347698
i was not disappointed

>>31343153
>>31341927
/meat/bro... THANK YOU!
care to post the script so I can use it too?

>>31349074
Glad you liked it!
It's been a while since I've done this.
Here, I was using Maldive as my testing ground. You can switch the tag if you want

##Custom test
DGL_ideas = {
start = {
manpower_recovery_speed = 0.1
shock_damage_received = -0.05
}

bonus = {
religious_unity = 0.25
tolerance_own = 3
}

trigger = {
tag = DGL
}
free = yes

dgl_first = {
global_trade_goods_size_modifier = 0.1
global_unrest = -1
}

dgl_second = {
spy_offence = 0.2
placed_merchant_power = 5
}

dgl_third = {
galley_power = 0.2
disengagement_chance = 0.25
may_perform_slave_raid = yes
}

dgl_fourth = {
global_manpower_modifier = 0.1
global_sailors_modifier = 0.1
}

dgl_fifth = {
global_foreign_trade_power = 0.1
diplomatic_reputation = 1
}

dgl_sixth = {
justify_trade_conflict_cost = -0.10
rebel_support_efficiency = 0.20
}

dgl_seventh = {
church_loyalty_modifier = 0.05
institution_spread_from_true_faith = 0.1
}
}

How does my provincial map look?

>>31349437
Germanic?

>>31349556
Dutch.

i also made a map, holy crap tako that is a lot of cities. i doubt you can even name them on the map.

>>31349717
Well, I realized that when I finished. I will end up numbering them per province and have them listed in the lore guide.

>>31349437
looking good tako!

I never realized how great of maps you could make in paint until have seen what some of the newfriends can do. How are you doing this? What are your secrets?

>>31349872
eh, i went cropped to location, zoomed in massively, made another layer for borders and traced before deleting the old borders. It takes a while but I like the results. layers are the golden goose honestly.

How many nations still need to vote? Can we call it at 6pm EST? OGsuner, where is your vote btw?

>>31349980
dont we ususally have 48h to vote?

nasfaqg has no vote yet either

>>31349934
>>31349872
Yeah, same here. Just playing around with it for hours after looks over mhm's map earlier got me the idea.
>>31349833
Thank you!

>>31349980
the vote will go 48h as usually, it will not be cut short, even less so if known nations still have not voted

>>31349980
No, vote goes on for another 13 hours and 10 minutes.
t. voteanon

>>31350016
yes, but we usually start in on friday at 6pm EST instead of midnight. inf and nasfaqg (I don't think risu, rose, haha, or nemen will vote) are left.

>>31350082
what does it matter to you? the votes still need to be counted afterwards by the current voteanon anyway wich can take in itself depending on when he sleeps

vote should go 48hrs regardless honestly. Doesn't matter if it started at Midnight EST on friday.

>>31350141
IDK, i just found it odd we started at Midnight EST. Don't know if that's happened before.

>>31350258
The bylaws only say we begin the vote Friday to Saturday, and it goes on for 48 hours from the moment it starts.

>>31349437
I dig it! I really like how rich the land is in lakes and rivers which makes it stand out a lot, but as the others have said that's a lot of settlements. It might be a good rule of thumb to only really name the 'capital' of the provinces, maybe another if there's anything of particular note in the other town/city.
Did you manually craft the islands/coasts? They look really good. I kinda want to make a map similar to this in the future when my place has been more... civilized. Oh, and another thing which is more a personal pet peeve of mine, the borders on Benthem and Clingeland are both very smooth.

>>31350258
remember that different people have different timezones

>>31350367
yeah, i will refine the borders. Hell, suggestion for you, use my map for scale and you can do the same thing honestly. Regarding islands and borders, you will want to delete the island border and gently shape it with the paintbrush at 2 or 3 pixels. That's how I did the coasts and stuff. It's time consuming but I like maps. Cities, realized that when I finished so I will end up just numbering them and naming them below in my docs. Thanks bro.

Speaking of the vote, have to get something off my chest. I am personally kind of feeling odd about how most of the votes cast were mostly in agreement over things like tripcodes and the ocean names. I am not accusing anyone but can I ask the reasoning beyond what has been said? Is it just groupthink or something?

>>31350599
eh, i haven't voted (i cant vote unless our rep delegates that to me), but I would pretty much agree with all of them, except one of the ocean names, and I'd add a caveat to the trip thing which would allow other forms of identification too.

My guess is that for once people are mostly of the same mind, Most probably dont give a fuck about the ocean names anyways.

>>31350599
well for the tripcode, the fact we have a case that shows why at least a bit more protection is needed is most likely the main reason.
and as someone who actualyl voted agaisnt 2 of the oceannames, i think most people just agree to them to have it be done with and move on even if some of the names are subpar

>>31350599
Well, i will be honest. The ocean names can be fixed as was brought up, and how long did we spend on them? Plenty of time for better names was avaliable and not used. We can bring it up next week for the ones that want to be changed. As for trips, I voted yes simply because this should have happened a long time ago and was exposed thanks to a falseflagger. And Sol made the point of the caveat of having an oldfag who came back get a trip and edit their lore to prove its them. It's not perfect but votes are such a big deal that it makes perfect sense.

>>31350759
Regarding the Ocean names, I ended up just rolling with the ones I put down because I was going to bring up when it was finalized if there were any better suggestions. Sol had a good proposal of making an oldfag coming back edit a rentry to before making a trip that sounds like it would work.

>>31351052
Dont get me wrong, the ocean names are good, just not maybe the optimal. Im fine with them but a vote would require me to voice my preferences.

>>31351052
the only issue with that is when some of them have simply left the rentry stuff to archive anon and just posted in here and anchored to above

>work on my map
>no replies
pain peko kek. wonder if what retroanon said is true about the >panon generation stigma.

>>31351180
Maybe, I did like your map personally if my opinion matters here. Been studying the newfags in their paint techniques to create Nijimap 2.0

>>31351180
i think its more of a case of, it is fine but also nothign really something can be said about

like i saw it but while not as much as the one of /wah/ its jsut a big lsit of lines and names all over and thus a bit hard to take in and be liek "oh yeah thats a cool placement for that town" ect

>>31351162
yeah, that would be true. In that case, we would likely do warosu reps on them. Nothing is fail proof.

>>31351180
The only comment I can think of is how did you come up with all those names kek.

>>31351330
>>31351274
I don't know, maybe it's just me being insecure but i often feel like this thread is in its own bubbles where you post something and wonder what people think, even ask them and no one replies. panon, alice and mepper are good at feedback but then again, >panon generation kek.

>>31351419
for what? town names are mostly me just pulling shit honestly. regional names i based on latin words i "translated" aka vulgarized into portugese or in the case of V7, based them on latin words that I thought worked (without any thought)

>>31351456
I mean, for what it's worth, "non-panon" writers equally sometimes get no responses to their stuff. That's just kind of how it be.

>>31349717
>>31351180
Well, I can repeat what I said about some province borders being too smooth for my taste. Part of me also thinks it'd be better to separate province maps into two separate ones. Part because someone such as myself might mix things up and think it was all one large nation rather than two separate ones. Also because if a /v7/ rep arrives they'll likely have their own ideas of how to do things so if you do any changes to the map from now then those might be lost if you have to remap things to let said theoretical dude have their own stuffs

>>31351515
Yeah, I have been trying to do this more myself but idk if its a good idea based on what retrobro said honestly.

>>31351534
eh, i tried to change fonts and the border pixel to show they are different. it's a pain to just go and have two seperate files. i also have no issue with a new rep coming in a saying "nope". as for the borders, eh, mhm's were redrawn when afonso III took over and it reflects that and V7 is a republic and those provinces are kind of just the way they set up.

i am trying to fix up my habit of reading something and then not giving feedback but in this case it really was just a case of, i got nothing to say, it is a map with lots of names on it.

if i had any feedback its the same as with /wah/, maybe cut it down to the important bits

I'm not sure if we already went over this but did /meat/bro ever go over what their catalognaut abilities could be?

>>31351876
/meat/ specifically, or catalognauts in general?
I think it's a no on both fronts, but there are examples of the former, and I believe he's working on the latter.

>>31351180
dont worry, us olderfags dont get much feedback either

>>31351575
yeah.... honestly given what was said to sol about perceptions, idk if i feel comfortable giving my support and feedback much given how it is hurting the perception of someone like Sol, who is a nice guy to everyone. Not just him but others too like dragoon kr warkop mep and mhm. maybe I am just a schizo but if that's the case, i don't know if its a good idea for me to say much given how perceptions are. They change, but me feeding this group thing with feedback won't help...

>>31351925
/meat/ specifically, I want to know what these nightmare fuel super soldier cannibals are like

>>31351941
why must it be this way bro?

>>31351575
please don't be discouraged from anythign because of something i said. if there is anything you want to take away from it then giving more feedback to people outside the perceived group from you would be a positive to bridge the gap

>>31352005
Sometimes people just don't have much to say. You'll get used to it.

>>31352050
Retroanon, you said that you felt this thread's general perception was that there was a >panon generation and that most people didn't bother touching anything they did because of it. By saying that, you have effectively said to him that because think of it this way, if he starts interacting with someone, as you somewhat pointed out, that person is associated with that.

>>31352005
Just try to convince yourself people care anyways, even if they dont say anything. Another good cope is to look at the rentry view counts and subtract your own, so you knwo people are at least opening your stuff and scrolling around.

>>31352050
I generally do regarding military affairs, I cannot offer good feedback on most stories because unironically liquid brain. Things don't stick a lot unless I am interested. I cannot give good feedback to OGsuner because of that.

>>31351953
if you wanna fight the perception then please do no tdo it by removing feedback from people but instead by considering reading and giving feedback to some anons work that maybe you don't interact so much with

i really did not mention this to discourage people working with people they are comfortable with

>>31352222
Just need to take my meds I guess...

I mean, it certainly doesn't help when you have someone like Cunt who prides himself on not bothering with anyones lore or OGsuner, who literally doesn't read others lore unless it pertains to him.

>>31352268
but i do that a lot... i have said you inspire me as a write, i talk to deadbeats a good bit and nasfaq too. i don't understand where this perception that i only care about a certain group came from when tell people i think they did great a lot. the only lore i honestly do not read is OGsuners logs because they hurt my brain and the meat stuff is too big brained for me.

>>31352200
well but this was just my view of things, i could also be totally wrong at all.

and i also stated that there are clearly also enough people that never had such a perception at all.

i did not say that to make worsen this group feeling, i just wanted to answer sol about his inquiry and maybe make some of the people that might have this perception realize the view of someone like sol and that from the perception of sol for example he jsut cares about his own thing and is not actually part of some larger group at all and that he should be viewed as his own person and not as "one of the group"

>>31352479
no i did not mean you never give feedback to to a wide variety of people at all, just please don't think you should interact less with people or not give them feedback because of something i said.

we also had the big airing of grievance where i think a lot of people that had this perception also came to udnerstand that a lot of stuff they did was bad like being stuck in this kidn of mindset. even if not everyone was critized or in ym case only you did, i am sure others too did some self reflection

>>31352493
You did, but no one has claimed otherwise really and furthermore, the concept you seem to have is that half the anons here have a negative perception of panon and alice to the point that they consider anyone they cooperate with to be another part of a hivemind. Do you understand how awful that sounds to not only panon and alice, but many of our newfags that have worked with them? I know you are being honest but I am not even sure if what you believe is that true at all.

>>31351575
PP my man, I dont think retrobro's point was to discourage you from interacting, same goes for you >>31351953 alice. Dont let the idea of the potential schizo backlash stop you from giving feedback to the "panon clique" or anyone else.
If the perception of a clique bothers you, consider giving feedback to or writing friendly interactions with anons outside the perceived clique.

>>31352596
He probably is very aware, its no use in trying to guilt him anon.

Not said anything, but Remind me why all of this criticism seems to be solely falling on two posters that for all purposes, I find to be decent if not good most of the time and not someone like Cunt or to a much lesser extent, OGsuner? Does this thread really have a more negative perception of the two that are being criticized the most as being some of the worst posters here? Asking genuinely because my Autistic ass cannot figure this out.

Please stop talking about me, I am fine and not a big deal. No need to worry about this and that when this is a worldbuilding thread and this is getting away from our purposes.

>>31352927
cunt can be cunty but OGsuner is bretty based

>>31352927
OGsuner is fucking based though what the fuck are you talking about

>>31352927
I think we generally just accept the awful behavior from Cunt as acceptable given we cannot change it. OG is a dumbass but fine.

>>31352927
I think it's less that they are the worse, just that some anons find their behavior questionable. Form all of the timeloops that started because of them, the perceived "cultural shift" after they joined and the fact that they are the more noticeable posters in this thread it just makes them easier targets for criticism, both legitimate and illegitimate.

>>31352596
exactly, it was just mostly me saying this, if anything what isaid should be disregarded and treated as schizotalk, this is just a case of my pessimism doing its worse as alice has pointed out before and is a thing i need to work on for myself not something that should be taken as fact at all.

and if anything this mostly just a thing of the past, everyone has shown lots of work that absolutly proves each and everyones love for their work. be it sol's economic report or mep's idea for a queen that needs to bless the land

and while i may have no words for the map /mhm/ just made, i am still very excited about the smiths of his and already had this silly idea of having a bunch of Retro Reich shmiths sail to /mhm/ and demand to be taken as apprentices so they can improve themselves. a bunch of eccentric weirdos that are either walking around naked, burly man in dresses, people dressed as animals ect. that all then are super serious and take their craft very important and don't mind lowerign their head to the /mhm/ smiths if it means getting better

what is everyone working on currently?

>>31353672
nothing, incapable of it mentally at the moment.

>>31351876
>>31351925
>>31351991
Im here! Anything you wanna ask?

>>31353672
idk... for someone that has a lot of things to do i sure don't do them a lot. probably going to touch grass for the rest of the day.

>>31353672
Watching initial D, going out soon.

man... worldbuilding is hard...

>>31353929 (me)
I guess I can talk about everyone's favorite magically item, Chuubanite. I was thinking that you can combine Ina's with Ink to make ink bombs for ships or something, having a spear cannon that would pull ships together, chuubanite nets that are stronger than normal nets. Thoughts? I think it should be good with artistic things and naval things.

>>31354066
i have troubles with creativity with chuubanite myself. its easy with kaela for example to understand how to use it but Zeta, i don't know what would be plausible in world or balanced. something that has to do with spys or james bond shit.

>>31354066
>>31354184
just do fun shit kek.
Also I will vote later today or tomorrow.

>>31354268
Vote ends in 11.5 hours.

>>31354268
that literally doesn't help me at all.

>>31354268
meant to say later today or tonight since i know they will be closed soon. Would love to do it now but doing IRL shit.

>>31354184
>>31354184
Average crackhead on Zeta chuubanite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4N5OhcY9s
https://youtu.be/6PNgS2Dnz9o?t=70

>>31354362
in seriousness, how would this work however? Invisibilty to some degree?

>>31353758
How would a /meat/ aligned catalognaut generally operate as a spy/assassin? Specifically, what would some of their chuubanite abilities be?
also, how is Akira doing?

>>31354428
Stealth?
Mental manipulation?
Pheromones? Cognitive effects?

given that meat is going for the stealth thing, who would have better chuubanite and abilities, V7 or Meat.

>>31354066
thats definitely a possibility.

If it is ok, i could share some ideas
An idea that came to my mind that would mostly be flavour would be for ina chuubanite to appear as a color that is incomprehensible, as a nod to the eldritch joke as well as the early color joke.
Maybe people who have not been accustomed to ina chuubanite will endure headaches and hear whispering in its presence.
Perhaps it has a side effect where it makes people really relaxed.

Not all chuubanite uses have to be useful, you can use it for flavour too and that is my personal favourite way to use it.
I still have no idea what nasfaqg chuubanite does and what the merchants use it for, but I do know that it can change colours and fuck with people's desires in a minor way.

>>31354463
i am not good with science and tech honestly. I think some kind of ability to be invisble would be a special ability but i don't know if that is balanced. I want to make V7 a top tier subterfuge and intelligence based warfare nation.
>>31354495
i would say v7 but since meat seems to have there nation built on that so it wouldn't be fair for me to say "mine is better or equal."

/meat/ just has a lot of work into there's and it is based on their thread culture. But i would have to think Zeta's can match and probably provide superior qualities in other areas because /meat/ has a lot of different things as well. Maybe that's just my take.

>>31354559
This, Dragonsister used it for Sex Appeal.

I'd imagine several nations probably don't have a major use for their own chuubanite, that is if they even make active attempts at harvest.

>>31343153
/meat/head, we can finally do battle, as ordained by our gods.
not actually, I'm truly shit at this game, I just like seeing the funny text appear

>>31354609
I suggest something cryptology related, secure information transfer is something that would be highly valuable

>>31354736
Just seems unbalanced that Moriji and Meat can tap into it perfectly while others can't because Morig for example already has all of the naval tech advantages already. Maybe this is just me not understanding shit.

>>31354760
but I want something more, like Assassins, Saboteurs, and that too. The nation's army sucks ass and the navy is meh. Why not go all out on secret shit like this?

>>31354796
Chuubanite effects can overlap. If you see someone else have something, and it fits your thread too, why not copy it?

>>31354867
My point is if some chuubanite has no major use, then it is kind of unfair when meat and moriji use it as much as they do.

>>31354909
Chuubanite (and magic as a whole) is meant to be optional, since not all threads want their country to have magic. /meat/ and /morig/ just happens to be ones who want magic to play a major role in their design, and so it does.
>inb4 conspiracy

imo, /meat/ should absolutely still have the best covert ops regardless of v7. there is no reason for v7 to have an advantage.

>>31354940
Isn't there supposed to be a balance, as for example, some nations can focus on tech while they focus on magic.

>>31354909
Couldnt have worded it better than >>31354940
Take as an example nasfaqg, they have done nothing with their chuubanite but would you say they are significantly weaker than moriji or meat?

>>31354961
Or, you know, maybe we shouldnt declare who is the best, and just say that both of them are among the best.

>>31352222
That's a good cope anon. Nice quads, too.
>>31354796
Oh, I arrive just while we're relevant! For what it's worth, our mutations increase the odds of getting a stroke and our vulnerability to cold. Also, we're shit at swimming.
Also, particular chuubanites can have particular effects, but all chuubanites share some general "powers" so to speak. Check out the doc in the chuubanite anchor for ideas. It can pretty much always act as a light source and a force generation thing, for example.

>>31354961 (me)
the reason i say this is it would retcon a lot of meat lore if such an organization was able to counter them easily.

>>31355051
If they're both among the best, neither counters the other easily.

The better option is that /meat/ and /v7/'s are better at different things. Being "among the best" doesn't mean you don't have an advantage in some areas or disadvantages in others.

>>31355145
That's true, /meat/ might be better at propaganda operations while /v7/ is better at intel gathering for example.

>>31355042
>just say that both of them are among the best.
As a /meat/head I agree with that. It would actually be fun if we can have peer-to-peer covert ops kino. How do you even measure covert ops prowess on a single scale anyway?

>>31355189
Tonnage of spies?
>inb4 best spies are from /ag/

>>31355184
>>31355189
(I am not being literal) Meat for example good be great at mental warfare (I need some help defining shit but its more than I am saying) while V7 specializes in intelligence, assassinations and sabotage.

i just don't know what is balanced when it comes to shit. Like i have different sub agencies being specialized in certain fields and having different goals. Some are expert assassins while others are better at intelligence overall, others balanced.

>>31355227
What? Preposterous!
they aren't supposed to know /umami/ was an architect conversion effort

>>31355327 (me)
and many are for hire as well. Zenatus is secure because it relies on its connections.

>>31355266
I think the technical way of saying that is V7 would be specialized in hard power while meat is more into political subterfuge and soft power

>>31355577
I would also say that it could make sense for V7 being seen by a lot of powers as a way to protect themselves against Meat. Probably would work well into my own lore and Meps as well.

>>31355643
nasfaqg would probably try to employ both in their effort to perform corporate espionage on itself

when i refer to "v7", i mean "Vitalis Septem". They are subs to the main agency, the VFA which focuses on National matters.
>>31355673
v7 makes a lot of money from these contracts i would imagine.

>>31355745 (me)
that being said, i do wish someone would give me ideas on invisibility, and other things.

>>31355869
what do you mean ideas of invisibility?

And yeah, v7 (or their individual agents) would make some fat stacks of cash from those contracts .

>>31355924
is it viable as a use?

>Live look at an Agent from /v7/

>>31352407
Until recently OGsuner didn't read others lore even when it did pertain to him. Dude really is a squirrel brain.

>>31355946
Something can probably be figured out, with having the chuubanite bend light around the person or something like that. It would probably still have the usual invisibility weaknesses of being obvious if wet or covered in dust or sand, and footprints and such. Could make great camo though.

>>31355946
an absolute invisibility I'd say is outright banned under the idea of no non-counterable things. Hiding in plain sight and still being able to move and sense yourself is arguably comparable to an unstoppable force.

But some level of invisibility definitely would be on the table. In what situations would you want to hide?

>>31356134
i mean, idk. probably in situations where it is needed. i don't want it unstoppable.

>>31354184
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/stealth-games-dont-have-to-be-about-killing-people/
Might unironically be helpful, since hiding doesn't necessarily mean people cannot see you in a literal sense

>>31356353
here is a thought, it can be used to become a changeling.

Holy shit that sounds like a story
>Moriji Admiral at the sea
>V7 agent hired by ??? becomes part of the staff through changeling powers.
>Kills the admiral and escapes

>>31355946
And yeah, as >>31356108 said that could be one way to do it. Another would be to have the chuubanite have a psychological effect on those that see someone who is covered in the appropriate glyphs.
So, not making you invisible but making those who see you unable to immediately (say, for an hour after seeing you) remember your existence.
Downsides is that this works on both friend and foe. And you could still be noticed through other senses than sight (so, someone holding your hand would be able to remember you)

>>31354430
>>31354609
>>31354683
Okay some clear up.
/meat/ chuubanite's power is NOT stealth. It is acceleration of biological processes.
From constructive ones like mending wounds, building muscle, speeding up gestation, to destructive ones like cell death, mental entropy, cancer growth.
- Long term exposure to natural radiation has given the natives better health and biological potential. Training soldiers would be faster as muscles develop quicker and acclimating is made easier.
-The spy network is not chuubanite affiliated. It's religious. So religious followers in foreign nations wouldn't have to rely on /meat/ chuubanite for everything outside of medical purpose.
-/meat/ chuubanite's use in espionage has mostly been used for speeding up natural processes like reflex and regeneration
- As for our Catalognauts, my vision for them is that they mostly employ them to manipulate their bodies by accelerating certain processes to an extreme that regular people cant achieve. Think Parasyte and Splicers from Bioshock.
Turning regular flesh into extremely malleable clay that would make HeLa cells look normal in comparison.
Increasing blood production and composition and pulling a Deadman Wonderland blood bomb. Or just suck a man's body dry of blood and fluids.
Lost an arm? Accelerate stem cell production to regrow it. But this comes at a risk since that would also accelerate cancer composition. The newly grown arm wouldnt be a perfect replica but one full of tumors and hypertumors.
The specifics themselves are also determined by the patron deity you chose to transubstantiate as/primarily worship.
Xohildr and the priestess in https://rentry.org/longpork#by-strange-lights transubstantiated as Comma, to create meat vines with cutaneous thorns.

>>31356784
So V7 could be a natural counter to meats spy network then. Well, I guess all powers must fall one day.

>>31354154
Deleted...
Why? Do jannies think Akira is not a vtuber or something?
Are all /meat/ vtubers nonexistent in their eyes?
Inb4 'not holosanjishojo dont care'

>>31357076
They fear her

>>31356875
Counterintelligence has existed as long as intelligence does, and it's not like V7's the first one to fight back. Of course, that doesn't automatically mean it'll just destroy the /meat/ underground networks, in the same way that Moriji BTFOing /meat/'s navy back then didn't stop /meat/ raids.

>>31357076
Jannies are jannies mostly for holothings. Not sure why exactly they are against meat but i can guarantee if you talked about meat Chuubas in a NijiEN thread, 99% of the time nothing would happen as that thread is unmoderated most of the time. Doxes are left up until some posts a holo dox. It is what it is.

>>31357361
Might as well create an entire sub-board for Hololive
/vth/

>>31356875
No, because /meat/ indoctrination works via making you want them there. If you are /meat/ indoctrinated, you arent going to hire V7 to go against them, you are going to hire V7 to help your homegrown cult.
"you" here referring to a hypothetical powerful or influential local who has been indoctrinated by the cult.

>>31357361 (me)
hell, goreposters don't get vacations there.

someone mentioned in the thread that Akira had ceased activities but she seems pretty active, can /meat/bros confirm?

>>31357448
sigh, unironically would work as it could finally allow nijijp chuubas to have their own splits.

>>31357499
She's still doing stuff
She just published a new asmr on her site
Right now she's preparing for comiket

>>31350509
Man, mapping with a dedicated program was way easier than this haha. Did you zoom in before or after you started painting the height and rivers? Because I feel like I made a big mistake there. I might hold of on this for a bit, especially since naming stuff besides just this fake north germanic-ish isn't my forte and only sorta fits for the more northern peoples.
Also made me realize that there still that island to the south that's kinda just unclaimed now. Wonder if it'll just be sunk or if it should be left uncolonized.

>>31353929
>>31354066
In general for chuubanite, try to think of a concept that unifies it's various effects. Such as [Grabbing] like a tentacle as an example, being used for the nets like you mentioned.

>>31357449
fyi, v7 isn't going to help meat, not because they see meat as rivals but as a threat to their own state. it goes against the vows sworn because they would know full well that meat could take advatage of tehm.

>>31357594
56ket*
It's a doujin convention for ryona stuff

>>31357682
so, a meat indoctrinated person living in, say, moriji would not be able to hire a V7 spy to help spread the cult in moriji?

>>31357666
i cropped and zoomed, then went over the rivers.

>>31357666
I propose we leave that island alone for future splits

>>31357765
would also depend on how v7 personally sees the other nation. a lot of it comes down to whether or not the possibility of being compromised is possible. V7 has a code of honor for not working for both sides as well, otherwise they wouldn't have any customers.

>>31357449
Personally I don't think a /meat/ cultist would try to hire V7 to help them, as /meat/ counterplay is rarely about beating the opponents in their own games. Odds are /meat/ cult's counter to someone hiring V7 against the cult would be to figure out a way to make said employer fall from grace one way or another, so that others in the power structure will doubt that person's attempt to cleanse the /meat/ cult (say, making it seem that the cleansing operation is an attempt to grab power by themselves).

>>31357863
>no working for the both sides
So, I cant have companies hiring V7 agents to spy on each other? Goddamnit.

>>31358185
that's different since those would be two different customers.

>>31358332
not to mention, sub agencies in V7. Companies aren't seen as nations by us fyi.

>>31351991
i'd say it depends, but we have a priestess of comma, and her abilities have been written about in previous works.
>>31354428
quantum invisibility based on light-bending, or camouflage would work best. pheromones that would be able to induce a cognitive effect would require contact with the ones who are being influenced. quantum invisibility is the best kind of invisibility, but camouflage is both balanced, and easier to replicate. the octopus is the best real-world example of this. speaking of which.
>>31354559
there are certain frequencies of light, sound, and other such senses that are difficult for our senses to interpret. the description of hastur's face is one of the more descriptive aspects of the lovecraft mythos, so basically just have it rapidly change how it can be experienced between a variety of those difficult to interpret senses. just color might not do much, but you can have it naturally emit a sort of low-frequency sound that follows the same principle, etc. that kind of noise can induce both relaxation in the listener, and the kind of anxiety that produces headaches, so you can definitely get what you want in the effect. octopuses, as well as lovecraftian stuff in general, are full of interesting abilities for you to choose from, so figure out 1) what your thread represents to you and 2) what you might need in terms of abilities to properly reflect it.
>>31354867
can and should are very different. make no mistake, if your idea is a carbon copy of someone else's, you should feel at least a bit bad for your lack of creativity. we want more variety of magic, not less.
>>31355002
what you focus on is less important than what you can do. magic should not be inherently superior to technology as a system, but people can have both magic and technology if they want.
>>31338760
first of all, tell me if you read the rest of the conversation i was having in that one thread, and whether or not it was accurate to your vision of how catalognauts should work. also, might be convenient to go to the /meat/ thread.

>>31358466
wait, was it autosaged?

>>31358543
/meat/chama...

>>31358429
even if said companies do everything a nation would usually do?

>>31358466
>can and should are very different. make no mistake, if your idea is a carbon copy of someone else's, you should feel at least a bit bad for your lack of creativity. we want more variety of magic, not less.
That is up to the individual nation's reps. I dont think a single thread should be allowed to monopolize an entire branch of possible ideas.

>>31358672
I mean... They can have a similar concept but still put a unique twist on it.

>>31358859
oh yeah but how many unique twists can you add to, say
>passively cools the environment
before you lose its intended purpose?

>>31358903
I think that's a level of power vagueness where multiple nations can have that without anyone batting an eye. But if someone else other than risu had a chuubanite that made plants grow 3x faster and let you grow gems in trees, that would be a bit more conspicuous.

>>31357900
/meat/ espionage strategy is parasitism
They put fundies and other devout cultist in key positions that would allow their activities to go unnoticed.
Think Stalin and the Secretary General
If a cultist gets to become a courtier, they will appoint more followers into high places.
When there's a raid? The navy will be assigned elsewhere
Promote investment in a town that is prime for attacks
Or plant cultists as ship captains to traffic people to /meat/ mainland
And most important of all, assign people in the military and navy. So they can do all they can to avoid a war. Any proposal to declare a war will be lauded at.
The thing is that people couldnt even tell if theyre cultist at first. /meat/ culture has always been about integrity and honor. Varangians hired by infidels would still risk their lives to save their different faith allies. Even if there are cultists in your court, they won't betray you and start a civil war. All they would do is prioritizing /meat/ in any activities.
If it's trade, a cultist diplomat would try to find a way to get a /meat/ merchant or their allies into this. If your trade deal suspiciously has many Kronie and Meathead shares that's a sign.
Traffickers will not dare get VIPs on board the trap ships/caravans. Mostly the caravans that have gone missing carried prisoners both civil and political.
The cultist general drilling your army is zealous and disciplined because he just vented his extreme 'kill the gods' mentality into hating your own enemy (and their chuuba). Aka if you train your division of heathens hard enough they'll just kill more heathens.
And the towns that are constantly raided? They were originally small developing fishing towns until a cultist baron and other cultist merchants invested into it. Literally grooming a town into becoming a cattle to be slaughtered. Even post-raid they would use their own money to repair and rejuvenate it.
Theyre doing diplomatic ryona. Like how you trust a ryona partner to push a pin into your genitals, you can trust them and they wont stab you in the back. But what they will do is very painful.

>>31358672
>I dont think a single thread should be allowed to monopolize an entire branch of possible ideas.
you misunderstand, 1) "an entire branch of possibilities" was never going to be monopolized. you are afraid that a single ability might be monopolies. specifically, a single set of abilities. more specifically than that, a single set of natural abilities that would be produced passively instead of requiring activator substances and glyphs to alter. there was never any way to fully monopolize an ability. 2) i just want to encourage more diversity. it's all well and good if everyone achieves their unique goals in tways that are unique to their threads, but if everyone had the same specific ability just because they liked how another person did it, and there was no counter-force to get them to want to actually make something unique for themselves, it would encourage people to not bother figuring out the system and tapping into it's true potential, while also reducing the uniqueness of those who do put in the time and take the risk to make their own unique magic abilities. i want to encourage diversity and variety, and to populate the system with interesting things. you can't achieve that if everyone does the same thing. it's boring, it's lazy, i think we advise against it wherever possible.

>>31359597
>diplomatic ryona
Welp. Thats enough /vtwbg/ for today

>>31359637
I dont think everyone would ever do the same thing. I just want to avoid a situation where we have a plant chuuba related thread and they are told they cant have accelerated plant growth because risu alreaady does it.

>>31359893
We already have three threads doing accelerated plant growth, so no need to worry about that.

>>31359597
is it bad that that is hot to me?

>>31359950
It was an example, you can probably imagine many similar hypotheticals.

>>31359597
>diplomatic ryona
this is fucking kino

>>31359597
So a major sign of cult activity is tampered development
Like if a no-name coastal town suddenly got shilled nonstop into being turned into a bustling residence in a span of a decade

i cant believe you managed to do stockholm syndrome ryona on a diplomatic level!