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!!MAP UPDATE!!

MAP 3.0.12
Changelog
- Added /wah/ islands
- Added some more islands across the oceans
- Updated localisation files

>>31199766
Damn, looks great anon. Those small islands really add a lot.

/vtwbg/ the EU4 mod when?

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>>31200073
That's the plan iirc.

>>31200259
Post your national ideas

>>31199766
Sorry for the pain, but this is done in terms of what you need.

>>31200469
Kino

>>31200431
Moriji
Traditions
+15% National manpower modifier
+10% Infantry combat ability

Black Fleet Drills
+15% Morale of navies

Free Ports of Moriji
+10% Trade efficiency

The Goddess Faithful
+3% Missionary strength vs heretics
+0.25 Monthly fervor
+10% Church power

Big Cannons
+10% Heavy ship combat ability

Tough Deadbeat Bones
−0.02 Monthly war exhaustion
−15% Shock damage received

Cops of the Holosea
+15% National sailors modifier
+25% Naval force limit modifier

Shipyards Boneyards
−20% Shipbuilding time

Legacy of the Underworld
+0.5 Yearly prestige
+25% Religious unity

haven't played in half a decade, probably unbalanced.

>>31200431
I'd need to play the game sometime before I do that. I've mostly played CK2 & 3 and Stellaris from Paradox.

>>31201808
For some reason it's the least autistic child of the whole line
CK has 'haha funni incest' retards
HOI has edgy teenagers on political koolaid
Stellaris has 40k larpers
Vic... i think the vicky 3 leaks broke them and /vst/ is not taking it well

>>31202192
My one, fully copium hope is that vicky3 is at least very moddable. The less rigid system might make it easier to implement a project like ours.
Also eu4 is more on the ethnic cleansing and slavery jokes outside of the mana jokes

Do you think i have enough cities.... holy crap i did not think that through.

>>31203293
More than the number, I think a bigger issue's that they look too uniform. Usually you'll see more people living around sources of freshwater and/or some kind of local resources, so a settlement map would probably not look as uniform, especially in the inland area.

>>31203401
So more lakes and rivers.

>>31203401
Eh... We don't know what the resources are in some of these areas and not every city or town is built with those in mind either. I would however recommend removing some as this would be impossible put names on the map.

>>31200251
>>31195669
YA NEVA GAVE ME AN ANSWA YA STINK'N GIT! DO YA WANNA FITE OR NOT! DON'T TELL ME YER JUST A PANSY AN ARE AFRAID OF ME BIG GUN AND POWA KLAW!

>>31203667
Yes, but usually even with that in mind, settlement distributions still won't be that uniform since resource distribution is also uneven, but I guess that might differ depending on the kind of resources.

>>31203752
I still encourage him trying to if nothing else be able to put a number next to the cities because, man, that is a lot.

>>31203293
Like what >>31203667 said, leave some of them unmarked. Thats the logic I used for nasfaqg map, left everything that wasn't a large or otherwise important settlement unmarked.

Here is my recommendation. Put names down for the bigger cities and provincial capitals. Number the rest.

>>31203752
>>31203859
>>31203919
>>31204045
got it. think i will stop for now on that.

>>31199262
oh you know, which lad would be the tastiest if you cooked them.

>>31200431
https://pastebin.com/RBbJ8HAi

>>31204725
>Siberian Frontiers
But.... you're an island

>>31205160
Yes. And it has to be colonized, but the island wouldn't necessarily be a colonial empire

Here are my current ideas about wah
Ideas:
>Princely Republic
>Major Patron of the Arts
>Merchants
>Banking, Stock Exchange
>Superiority Complex
>Sea Monsters and Volcano
>Large Whaling Fleet and Merchant Marine
Relies on Trade
>Hostile to Kaiserreich, Mortal Enemy
>Universities
>Nepotism
>In decline as a power.

Any other ideas considering my thread?

>>31205691
Vespie, what do you think our relations should be like? Kaiserreich, as Mountain wanted, is our mortal enemy and we are a sea based power.

>>31205765
wouldn't this make moriji an enemy too (also considering the typical myth tribalism kek)

>>31205830
I don't know what their relations are in world, considering those two don't get along well in vt, hell i don't know if Takos get along well with anyone half the time.

Also to Nasfaqg, is there any Takos that are rich in game? I could imagine a massive trading company in Nasfaqg

>>31205830
Cant say I am in tune with HoloEN fanbases but if the memes mean anything, yes.

>>31205765
Guessing you're /wha/ler. I imagine we'd at least be largely cordial. We sorta have a deal with /luna/, /moriji/, /risu/, and /mep/ that I think would make us non-aggressive with them so there'd be some political finagling if any of them have/get close relations with the Kaiserreich.
I had this idea of a mercenary/volunteer force for foreign expeditions that I'd be able to send, and I think depending on how we let the first contact go we might even end up with a defensive pact. I have a hard time seeing my League joining in on an invasion on foreign soil though as it's still trying to find it's own two feet.

>>31206657
We definitely aren't in favor of invading anyone kek.

does /wah/ want our nuts? We would be happy to put our exotic magical nuts in your mouth!

>>31206915
Mate, we ain't gay but we would like to trade eventually.

>>31206007
>Any takos who are rich
Oh boy.
The richest person in the game, and the HQ of the Miyatsuko is a tako.
Takos are relatively common among the playerbase too, although no one else is close to as rich as prichan here.

>>31206657
.. what happen to nasfaqg golem deal? Are /mans/ still interested in friendly trade relations?

>>31206969
So can I ask this? Can this translate in world? I am sort of making the Dutch so it kind of makes sense.

>>31206964
i was talking about nuts.

>>31206007
>>31206969 (me)
He is also known to be a massive gacha whaler so its extra funny.

>>31207053
The question is how exactly would it translate in the world. Triangle probably has a better idea for that, but prichan (as I will call him) would mostly be based in nasfaqg, although I do know that he is active in /wah/ as well.

What ideas did you have? I seriously cant say much, I'd need to think about it, but I'm open for ideas and discussion as I really want nasfaqg to have friendly interactions with /wah/.

>>31206969
I'd need to ask for a reminder on that deal, it might've been one you discussed with Cunt or I'm just being forgetful which could absolutely be the case.
I also need to make a decision in regards to the details of how exactly that stuff works first, in case export is even viable

>>31207277
Well, I don't have anything set up
>>31207321
For my nation? >>31205712
Aside from this, I can think we want free trade considering that we would benefit from it more, and I think a lot of our income will rely on trade honestly. I don't know how wealth translates but given that, well there are a lot of takos and the top one is a tako, i think us having a couple of massive companies would make sense. We would be great friends, probably the best friends for nasfaqg considering that we will end up rather similar.

>>31207455
Vespie, it may make sense for you to be tied close to us in terms of trade and naval things since that seems what we will be good at. Not sure how Cunt plays into this, however.

Also, not to thrilled about how massive my nation is overall. It is a pain with the map.

>>31207455
Oh it was mostly brainstormed with cunt. No deals were signed, I guess my point is that I'm still interested in it.

>>31207457
The list at >>31205712 is looking pretty interesting, I'm looking forward to see where this evolves.

Nasfaqg really likes free trade so that would be an immediate agreement from our side, but as nasfaqg is sort of decentralized, this would mean that the deal would in-universe take the form of a long standing friendly and cooperative relationships rather than an official agreement with the Devs.
Meaning that there would be a lot of nasfaqg based merchants traveling to /wah/ and back and in the case of wah getting themselves into a war, a lot of companies offering their services, and ofc the Serene Republic would welcome the reverse, /wah/ merchants traveling to nasfaqg and back,

As for wealth translations, its hard to say. i'm personally of the opinion that nasfaqg shouldnt directly translate the wealth (as in, numbers in game to numbers in universe), but use some sort of a relative ranking.
You can have some small to medium sized companies (wealth level 1-5) that have holdings in nasfaqg, but the big fish like prichan and the other top 100 takos would be mostly nasfaqg based, although given that they are takos I think it would be safe to say that they would have some connections back to their ethnic homeland.
So, perhaps tako plutocrats own estates in /wah/ countryside or on some small /wah/ islands, and they often travel from nasfaqg to /wah/ carrying trunks full of gold to be invested in /wah/ and offered to the Priestess.

But we would have to wait for Tri to come back, I contacted him and he should be free in a few hours. so he can give you his opinion.

>>31201808
I guess I could do it but I haven't played it in months

>>31208383
Well I am convinced upon further review that we need to have a large presence because we basically have no raw minerals worth a damn and with my plan for oceanic, no cash crops either. The only thing I think we can absolutely make bank on is alcohol canned goods and dyes. Maybe luxurry goods but I don't know that much about what goes into them.

>>31207457
>>31208383 (me)
>company and wealth levels
What i mean here is that if you want to create a nasfaqg based company that deals with /wah/, you are free to do so.

Naturally, if you want to make companies that operate mostly in /wah/ and do some dealings in nasfaqg, they can be of any wealth level. I dont mean to accidentally imply you can thave companies kek.

>>31207603
I don't mean this in a mean spirited way, but who are you?
>>31208383
Right. I'd personally like to try to get a better feel for what resources /MANS/ has available before I sign trade deals. As long as there's no open conflict between us, I don't see why we wouldn't open to *some* level of trade.

>>31208796
Me, your friendly neighbor.

>>31208787
Well, I would like a lot of help setting them up because I am not the best at understanding this kind of stuff honestly.

the holosea is about to become a pirates paradise.

>>31208851
Oh! Sure! Still have to hammer some things out, but I sure hope you like rice and tea. Also, I should warn that the League isn't exactly a naval power. Not yet anyway.

>>31209153
Well, that works for us because we will be a major one, because our economy will run on trade basically. Tea is something we need.

>>31205712
Seems like your nation is shaping up to be pretty interesting so far. How would you feel about exchanging some embassies with /wg/? Babel would also like to open up a branch on your shores if you aren't opposed to it. https://rentry.org/tfas8

FYI this is basically what we will have economically, maybe Mans with their magic can be helped by some of our goods and vice versa:
Agriculture: Lots of Cattle and dairy products, Lots of Apples and similar types of fruit, Wheat and Barley, and vegetables. Plenty of Flowers and Dyes.
Fishing: Squid
Mining: Major supplies of Lead, Zinc, Limestone and Sandstone. Minor supplies of Iron, Copper and Silver. Peat in massive stocks.
Logging: Prominent in higher regions.
Industry: Large amounts of Breweries, Wineries, Fertilizer, Glass, Aggregate, Construction Materials, Lumber, Textiles, Canning, Dyes and Ink, Bakeries, Meat Processing, Leather,
Banking and Trade is massive.
>>31209264
Sure, that works for us.

>>31208787
>first point
*... you are free to do so within those wealth levels.

>Second point
*I dont mean to accidentally imply that you cant have companies.

Please forgive me for no proofreading and possibly scrambled flow of thought, im still battling the coof and my head's feeling weird.

>>31208782
Dont forget the value of services as well, not every trade interaction has to be trading goods, you can trade services as well.
If you lean into the artistic, /wah/ could, for example, have sculptors and architects (those who make buildings), as well as engineers. There are probably other artistic-adjacent professions that could be turned to profit.

>>31208910
There's a template and a few examples in the OP document
https://rentry.org/CompanyCharacterTemplate
Here are some examples
https://rentry.org/House_Edelweiss/
https://rentry.org/tripoint-cooperative
https://rentry.org/i8hfa/
https://rentry.org/tfas8

I and others can always give you feedback if you are interested.

Slept until noon today. I'm going to be busy catching up with chores. I'll have to consult the climate map one more time.

>>31209425
I will take a look naturally, but may ask a favor for one of you boys to set it up once I got it in mind because while I understand basic economics, I don't have the autism that you both have.

>>31209498
If you have an idea for the industry you are interested in and a name, sure, I can set up the rentry.

But I would advice you not to worry about it too much, its a fantasy universe so not all of the companies have to be founded perfectly in realism. As long as its fun to write and fun to read you know.

>>31209347
Excellent! I look forward to our nations' future cooperation!

>>31209651
Ok, I think wealth level 6-7 makes sense because as I have said, our economy is going to be based around trade at this point considering that the Kaiserreich and her friends will be opposed to us.

>>31209712
Interested in setting up your regional chapter for Babel in Wah? Would be useful for hololands.

>>31209722 (me)
I am going to wait on this until I have other things ready to go also and I hear from Triangle.

>>31209784
Sure, what sort of info do you need?

Can I have an outsiders perspective on Takos and our culture? Also our relations with other Holonations. I find this useful because while I know how we are like, having an outsiders pov is crucial.
>>31209927
Um, Idk yet. I just want to keep that in mind for the future.

>>31209722
Theres multiple ways to approach that. Would that wealth be that of a single company or a conglomerate of smaller companies and individual tako merchants that on some level cooeprate with each other?

Wealth level 7 is a bit difficult, that would be for an organization that holds the equivalent of an entire nation's wealth (so, like Moriji's Black Fleet, or 2434's C.I.O, or the Onobot Fund). Its entirely up to you but the 7 implies a lot of things about how the nation and the company interact, and who is the one holding the reigns.

>>31209990
Sure thing, no rush.

>>31210221
>Who holds the reigns
I am setting us with this major problem between the rich and the poor. I would say that the Company is vital to our nation's economy (which is like relying heavily on services and imports.)

>>31200431
Owl Republic
Traditions
+20% goods produced modifier
+25% artillery combat ability

Research grants
-10% technology cost
+50% innovativeness gain

Mass potato production
+15% production efficiency
-25% land attrition

New industrial movement
-10% development

Frigate rule
+10% light ship combat ability
-20% light ship cost

Wars of attrition
+15% siege ability
+10% fort defense
+1 attrition for enemies

Postal service
+15% national tax modifier

Religious freedom
+25% religious unity

Effect of war
+25% land force limit modifier
+25% national manpower modifier

ambition
-25% land force mantainance

>>31210422
Like here is my idea on this, as i think this would fit perfectly for this concept. The Prince's Faction would be traditionalists like farmers, soldiers, aristocrats (Generally rural population) while the State's Faction would be merchants, plutocrats, artisans. (Generally city populace). The regions closest to the KFP border would be staunchly Princely because of the cultural influence and that the war was in those areas.

>>31210839
This is intriguing as different nations would impact this somewhat as well.

>>31210758
>prides itself as the enlightenment republic
>no republican bonuses
????

>>31211037
No comment

>>31211037
They gotta meta game here when building their nation.

Reflecting, Our thread hates Mori for the most part it seems. I personally am not a tribalist and do not care but I do not think we get along in world based on my thread. Sort of like Who with Inf in a way. Albeit we are surrounded by enemies kek. Ah well, our fleet should be rather large all things considered.

>>31211656
So that previous anon's 'wahlers hunt Deadbeats' theory thing is true?

>>31211753
What theory?

De Zeventien Provincien

Ideas:
Princely Republic
Patron of the Arts
Merchants
Banking, Stock Exchange
Superiority Complex
Sea Monsters and Volcano
Large Whaling Fleet and Merchant Marine
Large Navy
Relies on Trade
Hostile to Kaiserreich and Moriji, Mortal Enemy is them
Universities
Nepotism
In decline as a power.
Decadent

Military

Army:
Fort Defense Doctrine
Professional Army
Mediocre Commanders
Militia

Navy:
Large and Modern
Good Commanders
Second Fleet in the Holosea, Top 5 in World
Good at raiding and counter raiding
Excellent Marines

Economy
Agriculture: Lots of Cattle and dairy products, Lots of Apples and similar types of fruit, Wheat and Barley, and vegetables. Plenty of Flowers and Dyes.
Fishing: Squid
Mining: Major supplies of Lead, Zinc, Limestone and Sandstone. Minor supplies of Iron, Copper and Silver. Peat in massive stocks.
Logging: Prominent in higher regions.
Industry: Large amounts of Breweries, Wineries, Fertilizer, Glass, Aggregate, Construction Materials, Lumber, Textiles, Canning, Dyes and Ink, Bakeries, Meat Processing, Leather,
Banking and Trade is massive. The Service Industry is large.

Culture:
The Arts are highly valued of all types, but especially painting.
Problems:
Divide between the Farmers and the Metropolitans
Princely Faction vs. Republican Faction.
Church Division, the Hardliners vs. the Progressives.
Corruption

Developed more, what does everyone think (where is everyone anyways?)

>>31211868
I recall an anon said takodachis do occultic raids
Either that or i dreamt that up...

>>31199438
Almost forgot, but there was *someone* who was there before them all

>>31212022
We do? I don't pay attention to the catalog much. It's why I asked what the outsider perspective on us is.
Also>>31212037
We don't like Meat either so kek. I think they raid us a lot and we counter raid them (lore wise)

>>31211656
>we are surrounded by enemies
Not necessarily on all sides if you want...

>>31212172
I don't know, I thought you guys would want to make use of your island to raid us. Spicy it up a little.

>>31211973
>mentions large whaling fleet
>No whale oil, baleen, ambergris, or whale bone products listed
Takochama....

>>31211973
Kino ideas, can you elaborate on the religious divide.

>>31212112
I think pure ignorance would have /MANS/ in decent relation with /meat/, though I've toyed with an idea of a raiding ship on very rare occurance managing to reach the island pre-opening up and leaving behind a smoldering ruin in place where there might've been a small fishing village before with no bodies left.
Beware though, that watamelons is an entirely different beast from the /meat/heads

>>31212238
We can come in peace as well if you want...
OOCly, it ultimately depends on whether you prefer to trade with /meat/ or fight against it (or just not interact with it), although it should be noted that there's some under-the-table negotiation between /meat/ and some elements of ATL that might see the final end of /meat/ raids in that corner of the holosea.

>>31212299
damn, forgot to write about it.
>>31212351
So basically, I have the concept of hardline Takos are Inapremists while Progessives are more tolerant.

>>31212406
The funny part of this is that because we hate morig, you would be a natural friend to us. I don't know much about what you offer although I sort of know what you want kek.
>>31212363
They are, I can tell.

>>31212363
/meat/head navy is composed of small ships and focus on defensive tactics
We attack against the wind so once we're done, we sail back with the winds

>>31211973
Holosea is quickly becoming the naval capital of the world

>>31212591
Oh, I was imagining a more traditional viking raid of just a handful of ships looting and pillaging one or two coastal towns then leaving before a response could be rallied historically. Does that not fit /meat/?

>>31212578
We happen to have a list of products available: https://rentry.org/deiphagymining
As for what /meat/ wants... well, there's the obvious options, but I doubt /wah/ would be keen on exporting them unless...
We still have an interest in importing other things, though, I'll post your product list in /meat/ and see if there's anything specific the thread wants from it.

>>31212764
This might prove to be quite interesting for the ATL arc, considering Takos and Kronies seem to like each other somewhat in vt.

Fucking hell, the Holosea is a powderkeg now. This is Kino.

>>31212815
Do Takos practice Lovecraftian rites and practices?
If they do we might be able to get the same footing

>>31213000
Can you describe those, we are quite odd.

>>31212774
It does, especially in the recent century or two: https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatlore#navy
In the past, /meat/ supposedly had a much more significant raiding fleet, but the current plan's that it got BTFO by /morig/ in a major sea battle that kind of marked the beginning of the Age of Sail in the holosea. Since then, /meat/ raids in northern holosea have become less common and smaller in scale, basically like what you described. /meat/ ship design does allow for what >>31212591 says, which is one of the multiple adaptations that /meat/ undergo in order to counter /morig/'s more conventional naval tactics.

>>31213068
Think the /meat/heads will welcome Takos as a potential ally.

>>31212847
>Takos, Kronies, and Deadbeats duking it out
>Nasfaqg does ???

>>31213131
That's definitely the case nowadays, how far back it goes (if any) can be discussed since I kind of imagine ancient /meat/ being on-and-off with raids and trades alike (kind of like Vikings for that matter).

>>31213199
Nasfaqg fights each other because the Takos will be big in there.

>>31212960
>>31213068
It's the Golden Age of sailing after all
https://youtu.be/laY4TcWEbSA

Also, maybe the occultbros can tell me if this copypasta from my thread would make sense with incult
Ninomae Ina'nis is one of the c̴̪̋͗ṵ̸̭̻̾͗t̵̘̻́ȩ̴͓̃̆s̵̛̙̥͐̒̓t̸̟͇̱͊̐͝ girls that I’ve had the “̷̧̛͉͠pleasure”̵̤̮̬́̈́͋̃ to watch. A s̸̩͎͕̦̍͘͠u̸͖͊̈́̓̐l̷̯̱͓̝͐̕l̷̛̗̘̬̆è̸̛͔̊n̷̩̖̐,̵̪̐̑̊̕͜ͅ ̶̫̆ṯ̶͆͌a̶̗̠̫̞͗̂̕l̴̳͚̠̿̋͛̏ȩ̸̱̗̺̐̃n̵̢̰̱̿̽t̸̠͆̃́ë̷̪̟́́͜ḍ̸̡̻̱͊͠ ̶̔̒ͅā̷̗̮̿n̶̜̤̓ͅd̴̺͇͎̋͂ ̶̡̱͙͇̍q̴̢̫̔̀ǘ̶̮̭͔́͘ï̸̟ë̵͓̪͉t̸͈͖̬̩̓ girl, she added ȇ̵̡͚͓̱̇v̴̛̱͉̝̥̇̂̍e̶͎͈͕͕̓̌̐̋ř̸̡̘̎́ȳ̸̧̠̺̦̇̑ẗ̶̡̩̟̙́̀͘͝h̴̜̜̪͊͐͜i̵̬̠͓͇͗̊n̶̞̈́g̷̠̔̔ to holoEN including, “Gee, let's b̸̼̙͇̳̐̈́̀͝l̷̠͓̈́o̴̘̬̖̐̿͠ẁ̸̛͓̗͙̔͘ ̴̟͛͆ủ̷̢̳͉p̴͖͐ ̶̧͍̰͂͐͝͠t̴͔̠̑̒h̷̢͚̟̣͠ȏ̷̖̮̱̩͋u̵̯͉͉̇͋͒s̸̛͇̬̪̀̍a̷̮͍̓̌̊n̶̝͎͓͕̄͐d̸̪͚̀͒͜͝ͅs̶̯̺͓͙̆͆͑͗ ̵͍̼̈́ö̴̟̩̟́f̶̭̈̐ͅ ̴͎̳͚͓̐͛̒̈ṕ̸̝̪̱͉̿̽ê̸͖̩͈̈́̊̋o̸̢͚̭̙͂͗͊̋ṕ̶͚̘͑̐ľ̶͕ē̸̛̥̪̻.” Also, l̸̦̫̈́ḛ̴̇͌́̃g̵̢̺̯̠͛͒ạ̴͖̼̟̓̓͝l̴̗̰͈̥̓l̶̼̝̻̉y̸̡̤̟̽͛͊̿ released many c̶͕̘̐ͅl̵̹̫̪̋̃̔̌a̸̘̱͂́͌s̸͍̤͝s̵̺̯̿̆ḯ̵̬̫̠̓̌f̷̧̣̤̾̋i̵͎͎̞̘͊̾͌̋ḙ̷̙̞̓̓̀d̶̟̼̃̏͘ Chickens. A real ç̶̡̱̠̄͒͂̊̀̀̆̏͐͌͜͜u̵̧͍͙͖̖̼̜̟͕̻͙͑̏̓͊̋͌̈́͆͒̑͂̌ͅţ̷̢͕̬̥̫̜̃͊̽̔̿͒̾̂͝ḯ̵̘͖̜̪͖̓̊̐̀͝ę̴̹̞̙̠̯̐́̊͂̊̓̆̚͝!

>>31213278
>Whatever happens in the holosea, it will lead to a nasfaqg civil war

>>31213333
My brother of different pantheon

>>31213418
Think i found our ally against the evil chickens and reapers.

>>31213398
>All wars are simply proxy battles between various merchants of /nasfaq/, at least from their perspective

OH COME ON!

>>31213502
/meat/ does have some degree of underground connections with /kfp/. I think back then there are talks of some /kfp/ nobles importing slaves from /meat/, and story also mentions some /meat/ activities in /kfp/

>>31213651
Meat has underground connections everywhere that doesnt mean anything

>>31213651
Politics is a messy game, isn't it.

>>31211656
That's normal, pretty much every thread hates Mori and Deadbeats as a baseline. Happy to have someone else to have poor relations with! I've been wanting a Holonation to be unfriendly with, I thought /HiRyS/ would be it, but /wah/ works too. Would you see us as having a current or recent active conflict, or more of cold and unfriendly relations?
Also, keep in mind that /wah/ would have to be the aggressor in any war, because Ina and takos are beloved in /morig/ and we're not interested in your territory. Maybe this can push Mountain Man into my arms...

I am willing to consider cracking a deal with meat involving a slave trade. Let's say we raid other nations for slaves and give them to you at a good price.

>>31213537
Yeah, that is pretty much it kek.

How the other nations would see nasfaqg then is another question.

>>31213888
I don't know honestly. Our thread hates mori, which is funny how this is the opposite in yours. I need to get things set up but KFP has attacked us according to mountain so we can work it out.

>>31213759
Especially the kind that happens in shades

>>31213915
It's definitely a tempting offer, although depending on where /wah/ raids, you might have to contend with /morig/ over it.

HELLO FUCKERS!

>>31214004
Considering that is already the plan because we are rivals in vt, think the offer should be even more tempting to you. Our fleet is really strong.

>>31214066
FUCKO HELLORS!

New /meat/-/ag/
>>31214032

>>31214076
Very well... will have to wait for a new /meat/ to be made for further discussion though

Holosea is pure chaos now with 3 different factions (4 if you count the Mep-2434 connection) vying in it.

>>31214135
I don't see us fighting any war in the holosea unless some one messed with mep and they felt the need to call us.

>>31213993
It's an eternal source of hilarity to me that the whole board hates /morig/, but it's one of the most unity generals on here, attempts at shitting on other holos usually get dogpiled and bullied.
Also, >>31214004 is right, even if we don't have wars over territory, we could have conflicts through our anti-raid and anti-slavery activities! That's a classic.

meanwhile we dont have navy. we just use boats to go to places and tell people HEY GIVE US NUTS!

Sort of like this villain arc, thanks cunt for bringing this side out. hmm, other than KFP. I think Risu is idea for raiding...

>>31214392
That could complicate matters with your /meat/ dealings...
Fuck, this relationship web is really fucking complicated kek.

>>31214219
funny enough, pink woman is liked by nijisanji for the most part. natural allies, we could be.

>>31214219
Interestingly, nasfaqg has been a pretty friendly towards mori and deadbeats for as long as I can remember. There have been times where mori drama leaked there but most of the time it was hit with major opposition.
Which is one of the reasons why I wanted moriji in the ATL

>>31214392
To be fair, /risu/ had been a somewhat common raiding ground in the past, although nowadays it is protected by several powers (including /inf/), so it might not be a good idea anymore (/morig/ being between /risu/ and either /wah/ or /meat/ also doesn't help).

>>31214436
What's your price? I know you have dealings there but we would be willing to negotiate with you here to compensate.

>My friends and my friends are not friends
Oh boy, this is going to be interesting. I can already imagine the internal factionalism forming should things escalate
Unrelated thought but I wonder what /meat/ would think of the ritualistic cannibalism practiced within certain pars of our nobility (that isn't open knowledge to the public) if they knew about it. I have to find my original post again, but it's basically to maintain the 'dark gift' of vampirism-lite by passing it on after death in a coming of age feast of a recently deceased noble.

>>31214515
Not sure how much of a threat infinity even is here, it would be their enemies in morig.

>>31214459
>>31214475
Ah, no... My persecution complex...
/vsj/ doesn't mind pink woman either, I guess it would be more accurate to say /morig/ is the boogeyman for the Hololive threads. /nasfaqg/'s tolerance is probably just Tri controlling things from the shadows...

>>31214591
They definitely do have a presence in the holosea, but their presence is way smaller than Moriji's or any of the other nations.
Wouldnt disregard infinity here.

Oh I like these developments. Good for our strategy long term.

why do you think i built a fuckload of boats and sought out allies as soon as possible. We need foreign help until we learn how to defend ourselves. Even before it was somewhat difficult to raid with the villages being high in trees but now you have to deal with our big boat ally friends kek

>>31214525
>inb4 omnipresent /meat/ cult meme
It probably depends on the details, but at the very least /meat/ can appreciate someone who shares their appetite. I doubt the process can be considered justifiable in /meat/ theology, though, unless the occult bro can make it work somehow.

>>31214657
But Wah will be the second strongest navy in the holosea. Morig is closer and the real problem. Eitherway, not my problem!!!!

>>31214638
> /nasfaqg/'s tolerance is probably just Tri controlling things from the shadows...
Sure, Lets agree its that.

When you're an enthusiastic cabin boy heading into the Holo Sea
https://youtu.be/1YSltK-10zk
After a decade of dealing with Watamate Corsairs, Meat Vikings, Chumbud Pirates from below the waves, Chuubanite enhanced sea creatures, Custodian attacks, Schizo raiders, and Catalognaut privateers from the Serene Republic
https://youtu.be/bNNl8VOjbcY

>>31214687
Your big boat allies are stretched thin OG. Honestly, Mep is your safest friend considering they border you....

>>31214687
It's ok, i have no problem catching you with our chuubanite nets and burning your forests down mwahahaha

>>31214850
>>31214687
Infnity can put troops on the ground pretty easy using their own roads and the cities.

>>31214638
Funny you should mention that, caught up on the collab with magni earlier today and looked at the thread's reaction to it. While they liked to meme about disliking and blaming Mori previously, everyone seemed to really like it and the few who didn't like her before really warmed up to her. Like, this is one of the more negative comments I saw
>i am one of those genuine hater of Mori but only on girl's collabs. I like her music, but damn she's actually cool with the right people.

OGsuner, remember that we are your neighbors and your friends. We can help you better than anyone else can because of this.

>>31214930
>chuubanite nets
what kind of bullshit is this?

>>31214835
>Chumbud Pirates from below the waves
Oh fuck!
The cumbuds can just poke holes into our boats!

>>31215007
Mepper is doing the same thing fyi... Infinity is a good ally but mep is the closest and the best.

>>31215050
Infinity exists, they are effectively neighbours, as are moriji (although moriji is stretched thin). Infinity isn stretched thin and they probably prioritize /risu/ very high.

>>31215051
We deal with massive squids, and sea monsters. We need those nets to catch the squids and fish. With our net gun, good at catching things.

>>31215105
Infinity is the best, as its the strongest and OOC has been thought of as the /risu/ primary ally since pretty much the beginning.

I dont mean to sound like a schizo here, but trying to undermine the kino that is inf-risu friendship like this isnt very nice.

>>31215124
It's questionable to say they are effectively neighbors. The reality is that a land neighbor can provide more support faster. This isn't about factionalism but more about logistics.

>>31215268
My point is the established lore. realism can be handwaved a bit if necessary, like with climates.

>>31215234
How is this undermining their friendship? It's the reality. It's not like Infinity cannot be Risu's friend in this at all.

I imagine /wah/lers are divided into hunters and tamers
One hunts giant squids, and the other goes https://youtu.be/e8qmUV6PDGY

>>31215326
What reality? its a fantasy setting there is no reality.

>>31215049
Ah, that collab was pure kino, I can see how it would make a good impression. Glad to hear it. Maybe we can have related species of lemurs...
>>31215124
Can confirm that Mori is currently dealing with:
/meat/heads
/kr/ pirates
watamelon jihadis
probably some /ahoy/ pirates
/HiRyS/, almost certainly
And schizo raids, which even with all the above remain the main disruption on Moriji
And now /wah/
Having a good time on the Holosea!

inf and mep are both kinda in a good spot desu. Mep would provide a better immediate response from the south but inf is well liked because of culture reasons. And morig for obvious reasons too.

So takos are gonna try to hunt us? Do your nets reach 50ft in the air? our villages are high in trees kek.

I don't know why anytime my relationship with Risu is brought up, I have anons here trying to tell me to basically fuck off because Infinity is closer. Like hell, Risu and Reine are in the same branch and all. This feels like "Sacred Ground" for some of you. Stop throwing Infinity into this when I say I want to be a close friend of Risu.

>>31215467
Well, it kinda feels like anytime your relationship with Risu is brought up, /inf/ is told to fuck off, is the issue. You can just both cohabit.

>>31215467
Aren't we also to build this based on thread relationships and the vtubers themselves? Heaven forbid I be friends with another HoloID nation.

>>31215373
>Mori is currently dealing with:
looks like you guys are really spreading yourselves thin. and it's not like any of those factions you are fighting against are weak by any means, you guys must have an excellent defensive position, or an incredible navy, even better than i initially thought. how do you guys do it?

>>31215452
Oh right, we never went into detain on how to smoke you out of your tree villages, huh?

>>31215467
You can be close friend with risu but when you have people saying stuff like

>>31215105
>mepper is the closest and the best
>>31214850
>mep is your safest friend....

And then ganging up on people who are taking Inf side on the thing, it does really feel like Infinity's position is being undermined.

So be friends, but don't try to name yourself as risu's best friend and #1 partner, because such a party doesnt exist.

>>31215516
When was that said? Who said that? All Alice said was I was closer so our help probably could be better, yet you think it puts infinity down. FFS man, stop treating everything as sacred.

>>31215467
Yeah wtf? Yes inf in this world will be very well liked along the center region for their willingness to exchange their nuts with us but mep will probably be a very close second. Hell in the south they would be preferred. From now on im ignoring anyone who does this shit because YES we like inf A LOT but meppers are still very well liked and risuners will definitely notice that shit. Someone drew a "influence" chart which would explain where other nations would culturally effect us.

>>31215373
/morig/ be like

>>31215519
Not vtubers, but threads.

>>31215625
Why do you assume I am undermining anything? Everything is a threat for some reason when I am giving my own opinion based on the fact
1. They are land neighbors and logistics is easier.
It's like you want to pick a fight.

>>31215541
A motivated population, a big fleet, lots of gold and diamonds to pay for it, and strong bones.
Also, /meat/, /kr/ pirates, watamelon and /ahoy/ all attack many nations in the Holosea, it's not like we're their sole target.
>>31215674
An unironic inspiration

>>31215745
So, would Catalognauts in /morig/ be treated like Devil Fruit users?

>>31215722
which is funny because risuenrs are god damn xenophobic. Nobody really visits the thread but risuners and those who do (like the ERP sapling) get told to GTFO. Twice now this very thread was told by /risu/ they dont give a fuck (except me and ri2ner of course)

Speaking of naval stuff, how dumb would it be to deploy not!greek fire in the current tech of the world/region? /mans/'s presence on the seas would be small, but I can imagine the alchemists wanting to try using unconventional weaponry

>>31215653
Yeah, I did because I thought it was interesting. Someone found a way to turn my guessing into this "oh you hate infinity" shit.

>>31215744
You literally said
>the best
>safest friend
Those imply that others are less. "The best" especially, since it is a general implication.
I dont want to pick a fight, its you literally saying that mep is the best for fucks sake.

>>31215845
Go wild. It's punk history thanks to magic.
Schizos and other paranatural threats would also ramp up arms development

>>31215792
Hilariously, /morig/ chuubanite densifies your skeleton and tissues to the point you sink through water like a stone, and /morig/ catalognauts would supplement their abilities with massive amounts of chuubanite, so yes, it would be very similar.

>>31215745
i thought you tried to protect all of those places in the holosea. that could cause overextension problems.

>>31215845
KR already does it.
>>31215870
The fact that you want to take the words of someone who is an ESL and turn into to your own schizophrenia is you trying to pick a fight. And one more thing, Who cares what she thinks when the only opinion that matters is OGsuner.

>>31215927
>that could cause overextension problems.
It does! That's why "Your overworked, underpaid Black Fleet officer" is a meme.

>>31215946
>take the words of someone who is an ESL
Oh ffs you always gonna fall back on that excuse?

>>31215900
we turn diamonds into rainbow bombs that devastate entire fortresses kek. Too bad theyre so low in supply it would take 50 years before they become available as a weapon.

>>31215845
We have firebombs that basically use that.
>>31215870
It's my opinion, and I am not even involved... Why do you even care what I think????

jannies figured out /umami/ pretty fast. was fun while it lasted, but overusing it won't make too much of a difference. what now?

>>31216074
Back to the /trash/ you go.

>>31215981
as a /meat/head, i feel bad for you. not enough to stop, but still.

>>31215995
Yeah, I absolutely am. You know why? Because this is a problem in this thread in general that I see. It's not only her, its a lot of anons.

should also mention risuners use biological weapons a lot. things like lobbing clay pots filled with poison snakes/scorpions/frogs as well as of course poison tipped arrows. when your nature freaks you learn to weaponize it.

>>31215946
>>31216034
Im not fucking schizophrenic and its incredibly insulting when you start to claim that. Please stop.
If something, its you doing that that is inviting a fight.

Also consider that the moment I mention that infinity is a thing in the holosea and in /risu/ you both jump on me and start trying to discredit it. Is that not inviting a fight?

>>31216149
So everything she says has an excuse because she is an els? Bitch please...

>>31215946
>>31216034
aah, there truly is no original idea under the sun. I guess we just have to have anachronistic(I think is the word?) developments unless I can come up with another cool idea.

>>31216149
Take your own pill and consider the fact that >>31215870 is also likely esl.

>>31216074
Aren't there ways to make appeals to the 4chan Supreme Court or something? This is bullshit.
>>31216128
Honestly, I'm so thankful to /meat/heads for spearheading the role of /morig/ enemy in /vtwbg/. Writing a faction surrounded by enemies is a lot of fun, and is remarkably accurate to board dynamics for us. /meat/head love! and then execution for your heresy

>>31216221
>gems that shoot fucking fireballs
just be creative boi. Think of cool shit. Saplings have trees that fight for them.

>>31216196
Nah, its not an excuse actually, Its a call for others to consider it before jumping into a fight over something as meaningless as "the best". In quite the mood today I see, aren't you?

>>31216273
...you copy pasted your magic from terraria.

Whatever, moving on.

Ok well anyway im gonna stop getting distracted and actually do shit. Prompt questions still need to get done and I need to know about shit. Specifically need to remember what use all our nuts have and if any nuts would be able to be imported and successfully grown.

>>31216329
uhhhh based?

>>31215364
If this was true we wouldn't have so many chuubanite and tech timeloops.

>>31216253
Fair, I am ending this because this is a pointless argument at the end of the day. I can agree that the wording wasn't perfect.

>>31216329
kek. only the shooty ones. the other ones i either
>got from dnd
>got from color alignment/affiliation
>got from wherever the nation came from and their properties
>outright fucking made up
the tree thing yes but different powers i looked at a lot of resources.

>>31216464
And that's based.

We just love to shitfling over things that don't actually matter. Ah well, OG how are you.

>>31216106
aw, cunt. even as a ronin rep, you still find time to find entertaining ways to prove your namesake accurate. never change. :3
>>31216271
>both me
idk how to contact the people who make hot pockets, and i'm glad you enjoy our dynamic. it has been pretty interesting on my side as well. also, your bones make for great materials to fund further raids, and art. so ty :3333 :p

>>31216549
doign good. have my various fruits ready for answering the prompts and now doing the most important export and pride of our nation. NUTS!

Once again, I ask everyone here. What is your perception of Tako's as a people and our relations with others.

Idea for Chumbies
They have subs that look just like regular ships just without mast and sails, and filled with water. 'sailing' below the surface
Theyre not used as traditional ships, but act like carriers for Chumbud navy.
The ships sail below their targets, and the Chumbud marines are deployed. Attacking from below.
Because of this, some factions developed gunpowder-chuubanite based depth charges. Literally just metal barrels filled with unstable magic rocks.

>>31216273
Hmm... shooting bottles of acid with something akin to a Scorpio?

>>31216628
if your actually planning on being slavers then we will want to burn you the fuck down. But if you want to exchange nuts with us we will gladly put some of our nuts in your mouth

>>31216628
Food

>>31216628
Interesting, I might come off wrong but I get the impression that takos hate a lot of other fanbases sometimes and have a lot of, shall i say, superiority about themselves. maybe that is just my impression being wrong however.

>>31216628
Very calm people. Comfy and soft. Would cuddle

>>31216662
just define the acid and its origins and i dont see a problem. best to define how you would extract it specifically. I wanted to do beehive bombs but extracting beehives can be really fucking dangerous for obvious reasons

>>31216666
i am not talking about us in universe but in VT. Don't take what I am saying literally, I might not even do that at all.

>>31216641
Better yet, have the ships be tamed leviathan monsters. That way the little guys only need to worry about killing the people on board, the monster can sink the ship.

>>31216628
oh i fucked up. I thought you meant in the world. I always thought of takos as shy and quiet (the chat reflects the streamer). I personally went into ina's VRChat world when it first opened and nobody was talking. 30+ people no voices

>>31216689
as good as tako sushi is, ina said they taste like stale, burnt cookies. it's a sad fact for culinary artists such as us.

>>31216608
...Which /meat/head is this? I don't remember any members of the cabal using this many emojis.

>>31216837
Nothing a glass of milk can't solve.

Why does panon alice and every newfag have to shit up the thread with pointless arguments.

>>31216856
I lost track lmao

>>31216856
i have been talking to not-kyusai too much, bleach my eyes and cut my fingers off so that i don't spread it any further.

>>31216912
Wait...paragraphs??

>>31216628
I think most of /morig/'s strongest impression of takos is Takobro, resulting in our perception of takos in general resembling him: great artists, nice people, industrious, keep to themselves. Early in /hlgg/'s history there was this meme that all the antis for the other girls were takos because Ina was the only one that didn't really get antiposted and there was that one infamous tako twitter account (needless to say, I do not personally agree with this rrat kek), so there might be a sentiment that there is a small minority of unfriendly takos, which could be blamed for /wah/'s immoral activities.
>>31216912
paragraphsanon gap moe coming out in full force...

>>31216628
I'm actually not sure how /mans/ as a thread thinks of takos, but I have a hard time seeing it as worse than indifferent in some corners. I know there were more than a few amused jokes about the similarity between the Takodachi and the Magmite designs so it might lean on positive going on that.
In-verse we have little care for what other nations consider to be amoral too, at best keeping things under the table. So if even if you go villain route with /wah/ it wouldn't affect relations unless it's specifically aimed at us.

>>31216972
>>31216935
Yeah we've had some aspirants lately
Theyre fun

>>31216972
paragraphs is also a shota.

>>31216895
>>31217016
Founderkun? Is that you?

>>31217080
Yeah it's me. Why? I dont trip all the time

>>31217161
>foundersama takes his trip off
You mean. Youve been here all this time?
>schizos still ignore him
What kind of power is this?!

>>31217429
He isn't actually hateble like the nijifags are.

>>31216628
from the perspective of /vrt/ we don't have any opinion whatsoever about you guys since we never interacted before and ina has never been been shilled in our thread either

me personally also never had issues with anyone i knew was a tako so i would assume them to be chill most of the time

>>31214117

>>31216628
Takos are fine, but you aren't. You're too much a schizo, like most newfags are right now and do not care about the people that actually matter in this thread.

>>31217557
Same

>>31217637
kek, don't even bother with them bro. Why even respond to him?

oh right!
>>31216353
Check the new map /meat/bro posted

>>31217016
she is endearing with her cute, cryptic writing style, but i am embarrassed for posting like her.
>>31217655
pic rel

>>31217655
I flip flop between wanting to write aggressively violent hardcore cannibrosnan stories and a screwhead/architect awkward romance depending on the state of /umami/

>>31217733
NICE!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

>>31217735
It's no biggie. Have fun!
As long as you dont end up like Gomianon

>>31217637
Based and the only opinion that matters, anonchama

>>31217766
It seems the /umami/ experiment has fruit positive results

Reminder that Schizos attract schizos. Consider this when you see who gets attacked.

Going to have to wait until next Monday before I can comment on /wah/. Even then I can only comment as meta since Sanalites are gone.

>>31218038
You can comment on us.

>>31218038
No. You are now a Sanalite emigre naturalizing in whichever nation of your choosing

>>31218038
What...even is your mental problem? Like ffs, just say what you want to say nigger.

>>31217803
i have aspergers. typically, they say that is on the opposite side of the spectrum.
>>31217893
desu, there was enough connection between /meat/ and /ag/ that it wasn't too difficult to expect some results. plus, guro is a very broad net that often is only different from normal stuff in terms of extent.
>>31217766
so, i have been curious to know, and correct me if i am wrong, but you are /meat/bro, right? just want to make sure.

>>31218192
The same can be said to you kek.

>>31218209
I think /meat/bros gone too bed. It's 3am in SEA

Reminder that OGsuner is so scatterbrained he replied to himself and disagreed with what he said.

>>31218293
Being able to be self-critical is a sign of wisdom.
Risuner is High WIS Low INT

>>31218293
he did?

>>31218083
Fine. Takos have sexy backs and butts. Pan pan!

>>31218259
then who is >>31217766?

>>31218397
Someone said he did, and I want to see it myself, so I made this post.

>>31218293
>>31218383
based

>>31218454
Holy based.

Pan pan! Do you like bread dogs?

>>31218538
Do they come with onahole attachments?

>>31218563
Yes. Pan pan!

>>31218538
Hello imposter.

>>31218466
Probably during the March-May era

>>31218620
Hello imposter. Pan pan!

I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF!

Gotta be honest, Alice.. Panon, you both need to shut your mouths because you cause timeloops and issues too much. It's not your fault, you are misunderstood and one of you is an ESL. But please, only lore post.

>>31218728
God, wouldn't that be nice?

Do Takos have tentacles or are they normal humans? From what I read they sound like normal humans.

>>31218770
fuck me, imagine Cunt only loreposting... That would be something.

>>31218792
Imagine...

>>31218788
Normal.

>>31218792
>Cunt not hornyposting over Dragoon all the time
Impossible...

>>31218770
>cunt pissed at them for whatever reason.
kek.

>>31218792
When has he ever loreposted?

>>31218937
He wrote a /nasa/ story three months ago, I think...
he's also unironically nice to have around for spec bio discussions.

>>31218824
You are stuck in this timeline and I ain't ever letting you out.

>>31218864
Mate, if you think this can be considered pissed off, you haven't seen anything. Go look at the starchild timeloop to see me really pissed off(idk maybe, it has been a while)

>>31218937
Never kek

>>31218815
Thank you for clarifying.

I am busy waging yet again but I'm happy to see /wah/ more established and to seem friendly with /meat/. Maybe /wah/ and Infinity can get along too? Korean neet friends...

>>31219007
Nah, but you clearly are somewhat unnerved by them now. Kind of funny to see you act like this.

>>31218979
basically all of /nasa/ lore that isn't Principal logs are my works kek

>>31219032
KRONIE!!

>>31219032
Yeah, we like Kronies!

>>31216628
>nasfaqg
Takos are a valued part of the thread and the community, and they are held in high regard as partners

>>31219171
takonaholes...

What time we voting?

>>31219032
Welcome back. You should look into blowing glass made from volcanic ash. They have pretty colorful patterns.

>>31219266
7 hours and 30 minutes.

>>31219286
From now, I mean.

oh shit, right. Votes. I've been so preoccupied I almost forgot to vote about the anthems

Just going to post to discuss.
Proposed votes for the 2022-08-20 /vtwbg/ vote (DO NOT REPLY YOUR VOTE TO THIS POST)
>1. Where should /mans/ be placed? Choose your most preferred option from pic related.
>2. Should the current bakatare territory have land removed to place /v7/ and /mhm/ as in pic related.
>3. Should the current date be moved up to 1130?
>4. Should nations be allowed to ask for islands in map 3.0. What justifications should there be for this?
>5. Should Nasa be turned into a schizo wasteland
Updates to the Bylaws:
>6. Annul Item 9, as the rushia wasteland has been decided to be the mikeneko/nazuna/rushia thread through vote.
>7. Add the following item to the bylaws:
>> New thread representatives for generals that do not have borders should wait until those borders are decided through an official vote before writing lore which assumes a specific set of borders.
>>Upon a new thread joining the project, a vote to select the country's location should be held during the next voting session that is at least seven days from the date of beginning participation in the project.
>>All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time but it is a must for voting.
>8. Add the following item to the bylaws, applicable from its introduction onwards, but not retroactively.
>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)
Ocean votes (Pic Related):
>9. Do you approve "Ailivian Ocean" as the name of the ocean located East of GGG continent and west of Risu?
>10. Do you approve of "Heavenly Ocean" as the name of the ocean located West of the Indie continent and East of Risu?
>11. Do you approve of "Yamato Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the North Pole?
>12. Do you approve of "Maximus Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the South Pole?
>13. Do you approve”Kizuna Ocean '' as the name of the ocean located between Indiea and the Holo Continent.


Please do reply with proposals for updates and improvement to the bylaws and the voting options.

Updated for you.

>>31219720
Should we consider the placement of Cope, btw.

>>31219816
Cope isnt even active in vtwbg

I kinda want someone to write a story about WARanon and the ork poster desu. Would do it myself but too busy doing my own shit.

>>31219816
Only when a /cope/ writer appears. Until then /nasa/ is schizo territory.

>>31219830
Noted.

can i get soem feedback from the /eat/cabal if they are fien with this depiction?

https://rentry.org/vk8yu

>>31219843
Throw bread dogs into the geese chamber!

>>31219862
/who/ does not want /cope/ placed there, as was apparent by their repeated vocal opposition.

>>31219830
Neither is half the planet. So we going with the "make unrepped nations unclaimed land" proposal?

>>31219922
jesus that was awful even for me

>can i get some feedback from the /meat/cabal if they are fine with this depiction

>>31219720
Think we should have a conversation now about the options for the placement of the new nations, if notthing else.

>>31219983
I am personally a fan of the idea

>>31219983
>>31220024
Let this sit until next session, then we can consider cope. Too many voting options already and we still need to discuss them further.

>>31220013
I think Mountain man wanted to come up with some kind of proposal.

>>31218456
A covert operative.

>>31220074
I meant mans, v7 and mhm. That proposal should be next voting session.

>>31220118
Putting my trip on to state my opinion considering this involves me. VespieBro and myself agreed to option A, and with that in mind, I urge all voters to choose this option. Regarding V7 and Mhm, I defer to what the they prefer.

>>31220118
Option A for Mans. /wah/ and /mans/ agreed to this proposal, thus I support it and call for others to support it.
Option B for mhm/v7. The rep of mhm drew these clean borders and has put good amount of time into this project. Furthermore, while the precendent is bad, we as a thread messed up when we did not warn him. Therefore, I support option B

>>31220118
Oh. /mans/ and /wah/ have agreed on Option A >>31219720, so I think this will be a straightforward vote. As for /mhm/ and /v7/, I'm not sure what mhm rep would prefer, but I feel like Option C would be good. The way his lore is being setup, it would make sense for /v7/ to be a smaller but more valuable territory. If he has reasons to prefer Option B that is fine too. I don't think Option A has any chance of happening because he already made maps for /mhm/, so I would reduce it to B and C

>>31220118
Option A as that is what the two parties involved agreed on.
Option B for mhm/v7 as that is what the rep made.

One minor question, I get that /mhm/ has worked from the assumption of the borders in B and C with no one warning him, but is there anything particular about /v7/? They don't really have a rep, or did I miss something?

>>31220356
>Reduce the options
Normally I would be in favor of this but there is support for A.
>>31220441
mhmrep is working on V7 lore. He understands it can be undone as well.
https://rentry.org/Senatus-Civitas-Zetanus

>>31219922
i like it. i figure there might be competitions of some kind in /meat/ that /meat/ butchers would be used to, but probably not all of the kinds of competitions that the retro reich would have. overall, it seems like a nice way for things to turn out. thank you very much for your efforts. i almost did it again, someone save me.

>>31220559
No :3
Have fun, PG

>>31220441
Not really anything related to the borders.

>>31220489
>>31220441
correct. although i am sad no one has told me much about v7...

for 1. if both reps agreed to an outcome i will vote that, should they get into turmoil last minute for whatever reason then i abstain

for 2. i would vote option C, the thread failed to inform him properly and i would hate to fuck with his /mhm/ lore, this is under the understanding that this will be an extreme exemption and not precedent for future happenings, i however must admit i do no tlike how the border for /v7/ looks in B and i also do not see why it also needs to grow in size when he was informed about things before he started on /v7/ lore

as for the oceans, i will abstain, i am fine with what the thread overall accepts but i also do not feel particular about any of them except maybe the äilivion one wich seems to be the one that actually established itself naturally and not by throwing names until one sticks. i jsut want to stick with the rule that for smaller seas and gulfs that the relevant nations get to name them and not the thread overall.

>>31219922
Forgive me if I'm behind some lore but Onobots are willing with eating people?

>>31220679
The government and the agency (what you have done) are both well thought as expected from you. I approve of the uniqueness.
>>31220721
He made that map before he was told, fyi.

>>31220739
silly founder, Onobots themselves don't eat, they just see animals eating other animals, whats the issue with that?

>>31220559
Embrace your new identity! :3

>>31220775
There is no map for /v7/. Unless you mean just drawing the border, which I think was done by another anon, and takes 5 seconds.

>>31220775
he made the map yes, but he did not made lroe for /v7/ at that time, by the time he started workign on /v7/ he was already informed about the fact that the map is not official yet and so while for /mhm/ he has my sympathy, if afterwards he created lore for /v7/ under the assumption of his selfmade map even tho he knew at that point about the issue then that is entirely on him and honestly would almost be insulting after most of the thread is already willign to make an exemption for his /mhm/ case even if some have reservations about it.

I copied Option B and redrew the border on v7, to keep with the spirit of keeping mhm the same.

>>31220984
I would be fine with C. I have the borders in layers anyways.

>>31220984
i am sorry but may i ask why after people have said their thing about option C as it was, you are now makign changes to the options given? there was no one so far that complained about how the option C looked before

>>31221074
i also deliberately have been delaying myself on v7 until the vote for the reasons stated.

>>31220739
he made a story a while ago "an onobot's desire for /meat/" i think. it was pretty good in my opinion. basically, they were looking for the best kind of new, exotic meats, and stumbled upon us. it ends on a bit of a funny note, too, i guess.

>>31221103
Simple, the borders were not the same for mhm on option C. It wasn't just V7 on it that would have been changed.

>>31221179
while i personally have no issue, could please discuss such things first and not just makes the call on your own? this honestly is a realyl bad look because, if intended or not, this looks like you are modifiying option C to be more aligned with option B after you saw that people are in support of C, in order to have it more aligned to the option you yourself just said you would support.

>>31221509
Really? How does it appear that way, I just cleaned up the border and made sure the border was the same for mhm.

>>31221165
I know that story! didnt expect this as the outcome haha
>>31219922
I like how the cult here doesnt need to rely on espionage because of the open public opinion

>>31221584
NTA but it's mostly the fact you went ahead and did it without asking first. I think the past week has shown the entire thread exactly why jumping the gun is a bad idea in general, even if this time in particular it wasn't much since as you said you were just fixing mhm's border.

>>31221667
Yeah, he did but i think it was more in the spirit of fixing it.

>>31221584
none of those anons
Dont take it personally, its more a principle thing, i assume.
That being said, i do personally agree that the borders should be the same for both.

>>31221584
because it moved the /v7/ border up further to also give some of the land that they would gain from the option B vote which they had not gotten with the previous option C vote. Doing this right after people have stated their support for option C as it was makes it look very dubios.

while i personally agree that it looks better this way and wanted to propose it after the vote if C gets chosen myself. This was not the right time to do this on your own with no talking to the thread.

>>31221803
Would anyone like to see the border moved back? I only moved it there to make it more clean, not to violate the spirit of the option and would move it back.

>>31221803
>propose it after the vote if C gets chosen
You wanted to make this two votes taking two weeks and requiring multiple border changes instead of just discussing it before the vote? Why, exactly?

>>31221848
No i actually like this a lot better

It looks like for /nasfaqg/ outside of the archepelago the rest is subtropical rainforest. They might not have grapes but they'll have fruits.

>>31221848
I think it's fine, just mention these things with the thread before posting it as the voting options.

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Capital city.

The birthplace of the nation, the capital city was founded by settlers looking for a new life in the great north of the continent, these settlers would congregate in what used to be called the city of settlers, once war came and went, and the nation had developed in a multitude of ways, the city of settlers would recieve a new name to celebrate, the City of Victory. It is located on a hill besides the great river.

The capital is the administrative center of the Republic, it is where power is concentrated and where the headquarters of government offices are placed. It is where the house of government and state lies and organizes itself. Along with state critical infrastructure, it is where the University of the Republic has its main institution, thus making the Capital an important center for study. Due to the natural growth of the city, the use of city sectors is not present, with industrial zones overlapping residential and market places. The only places that have been actively organized in the capital are the academic and the administrative offices by the buying of land and rebuilding it as such.

The history of war has undeniably affected how the city developed, most of the architecture is rustic and durable enough material until peace was achieved, due to the status of center of the Republic, both geographically and tradition-wise, this has influenced how the Republic's architecture is shaped in general, very minimal decorations and buildings have generally blocky and triangle features over smooth shapes, as these were much harder to produce in a war economy, the use of steel has started to become more common and many buildings are being renovated with newer materials.
While some architects have started to decide on the use of decorations, others have grown to like the simple aesthetic and defend it, causing a rift in architecture schools.
It has various forts in and outside the city along with hosting an important military HQ and supply depots. There used to be a large wall until it got scrapped by the citizens of the city across the years for building material.

Anchoring
>>31199129
extra notes:
-I'm gonna have a river run from /rrat/ to /uuu/ and it passes by region 04 where the capital is placed, because might as well.
-at the top of the hill there would be the admnistrative centers, a military HQ, and the university, but I didn't do the layout of the city since I don't feel like it.
-the older part of the city is the one besides the hill, and it's expansion path took it past the river, the black lines over the river are supposed to be bridges.
-the right drawing is a horizontal view from the west, the left drawing is the vertical view from the sky.
-need some help actually doing the layout

>>31221934
They certainly do have fruits alright.

>>31221592
well the story was the in universe piece that lead to the original trade alliance, wich is now mostly in shambles and probably is jsut a normal trade deal between /meat/ and /vrt/ at this point since even the risuners don't seem to aknowledge it anymore.

and part of that deal was that /meat/heads come to the retro reich in order to prepare the meat.

i just thought this would make for a nice natural progression of this (and also a good excuse as to skip writing the story that i should)

would like some takes from the other cabal members but glad you like it.

>>31221988(me)
i fucking love paint

>>31221848
It's alright, just make sure to mention it before you do it next time. Like >>31221667 said the recent arguments show communicating with the thread before committing is something a lot of us need to work on.

>>31222067
>>31221949
Agreed.

>>31221934
>temperate rainforest
I really like the sound of that actually.
Although I suppose most of the rainforest has been burned and cut to make room for farmland.

Think some discussion on By-Laws could be useful considering there hasn't been much talk of it.
Updates to the Bylaws:
>6. Annul Item 9, as the rushia wasteland has been decided to be the mikeneko/nazuna/rushia thread through vote.
>7. Add the following item to the bylaws:
>> New thread representatives for generals that do not have borders should wait until those borders are decided through an official vote before writing lore which assumes a specific set of borders.
>>Upon a new thread joining the project, a vote to select the country's location should be held during the next voting session that is at least seven days from the date of beginning participation in the project.
>>All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time but it is a must for voting.
>8. Add the following item to the bylaws, applicable from its introduction onwards, but not retroactively.
>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)

Word cloud for last thread.

>>31221848
nah as i said i am in favour of it like this, jsut as the other anon said pls say something before next time

>>31221878
no i did not want it to take two weeks, not every thing needs a massive vote thingamajig to happen and its not even clear if that option gets chosen at all. if the option gets chosen i do not see the need for a whole new voting process jsut for some cleanup of the border, after all no one has issues with it right now either. the issue was the timing of it happening.

>>31221988
Now *this* is abstract art

>>31222185
Now, here are my opinions regarding this.
>6. Annul Item 9, as the rushia wasteland has been decided to be the mikeneko/nazuna/rushia thread through vote.
See no reason why not.
New thread representatives for generals that do not have borders should wait until those borders are decided through an official vote before writing lore which assumes a specific set of borders.
Yes. as has been shown already, this is a problem.
>>Upon a new thread joining the project, a vote to select the country's location should be held during the next voting session that is at least seven days from the date of beginning participation in the project.
Yes, but we need to add a clause to postpone this until we see what Mountain is planning.
>>All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time but it is a must for voting.
Yes, as proven by the Sakuran falseflagger, it may have not influenced the votes but it is a horrible precendence that a trip avoids. This warrants discussion
>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)
Not sure, I think there should be time but I also think that some anons have shown themselves to be solid contributors within 10 days.

>>31222185
I'm really not a fan of requiring trips to vote, but I guess voting registration is unavoidable with the rampant false flagging now. As for
>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)
I think there should be some kind of exception for when the vote is related to the new rep's thread interests.

>>31222391
Agreed, and I also think that this thread can judge within 7 to 10 days for some anons. The spirit should be more about if they are solid contributors as part of this clause.

baker doko?

>>31222185
>>8. Add the following item to the bylaws, applicable from its introduction onwards, but not retroactively.
>>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)
Seven days feels too short, that seems like an amount of time some writers have been active before dipping forever. Two weeks seems like a good duration. 10 days is borderline, I think two weeks is better, but it's an acceptable compromise I guess. I'm annoyed it's not a round number of weeks.