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>Silvervale: We want to show that there is an agency which is not like Hololive. You can be yourself, you can have relationship and talk about yourself and your parents. Just be yourself and not be tied down by all these expectations.
Why does hololive live so rent free in vshojo's heads?

>> No.31164147

>>31164019
Unity has always been a meme but this just comes right out and says it

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31164237

>>31164019
I think you might confused and stupid anon

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>>31164019
One picture to describe cope

>> No.31164691

>>31164019
Yeah, it's called being independent and grouping up with other vtubers for brandi- why is silverware like thi- right, woman. Ok then.

>> No.31164837

>reference largest vtuber group in interview about vtubing
Why did she do it bros wtf

>> No.31165723

Keep up the bait posts about this article faggots, you're on the 5th one now if I recall correctly

>> No.31166670

>>31164019
So when they say talent freedom what they actually mean is freedom to fling shit in public

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31166974

Yea man silver really hates holos :)

>> No.31167015

>>31164019
obsessed

>> No.31168413

>>31166974
>it's okay to lie and shit talk the organization because she's friends with one of them behind the scenes :)

>> No.31171115

Her JOI is pretty good.

>> No.31171395

>>31165723
obsessed

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31172909

niji sucks https://discord.gg/NJp9BJ54

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Proved that Hololive lives RENT FREE in Vshitshow heads.

>> No.31173700

>>31172909
kek those proportions are fucked

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>has perfect opinions
>is objectively correct
how does she do it?

>> No.31175229

>>31173385
ironic considering you care enough to post, rent free holocel

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31175265

>>31164019
TALENT FREEDOM

>> No.31175554

>>31175265
this just proves that your oshii is a whore when she's not on screen

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31175687

>>31175229
>NOOO YOU CAN'T POST FACTS!
Cope.

>> No.31175786

>translation: I want to be able to do sex asmr without repercussions
There's nothing wrong with that but lets not sugarcoat it either.

>> No.31175811

>>31175687
Fact is that vshojo lives rent free in /vt/'s head. Just posting facts.

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31176010

>>31175811
>Vshojo lives rent free in /vt/'s head
>Mogged by a Hololive side branch.
Literally who?

>> No.31176087

>>31176010
>he says in a vshojo thread
Didn't think this through before posting huh?

>> No.31176469

>>31176010
having a >who live rent free in your head makes it exponentially more sad

>> No.31176480

>>31164019
But Vshojo isn't an agency. It's a friend group that went corporate. If Vshojo was a proper agency they wouldn't let Haruka and Snuffy hang around so much without forcing them into a contract.

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31176546

>>31176087
>Said shit about Hololive restrictions.
>Literally who?
>Was already proven wrong countless times on this board.
>Said that i'm the rent free one >>31175229

Didn't think this through before posting huh?

>> No.31176649

>>31176546
The fact you keep seething means that you are in fact the rent free one. Good job, you played yourself. What's the next step of your master plan?

>> No.31176756

>>31176649
>>31176469
>I-I'M NOT THE RENT FREE ONE!! IT'S YOU.
>Didn't even know this thing existed till someone bring it up /here/.
What's the next step of your master plan?

>> No.31176841

>>31176756
>living rent free in your head from the moment you heard of her
stop digging your own grave, retard

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31177020

>>31176756
>thinks only one person thinks he's a retard
>has to copy others posts instead of coming up with own stuff

>> No.31177034

>>31176480
They already get to do collabs without the normal fee. It may only be five figures, but it's not nothing.

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>>31176841
>Still trying to say i'm the RENT FREE ONE, even though she was the one seething at Hololive and was 100% in the wrong.
Cute, but you must be 18+ to post /here/.

>> No.31177209

>>31177020
>has to copy others posts instead of coming up with own stuff
Says that i'm copying other posts out of nowhere. Still says i'm the rent free one. Gonna call me seanigger next too?

>> No.31177516

>>31177079
>being this obsessed
it's just sad at this point

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>>31177516
Sad right? Doing lame threads on catalog to shill a nodoby is indeed a sad display. >>31173776

>> No.31178070

>>31177883
>gets called obsessed
>shows that they are even more obsessed
You just keep getting sadder. It was time to stop ages ago, retard.

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>>31178070
>Me not doing anything other than answering a schizo.
>Obsessed.
>"Retard" used by twitter trannies tourists.
You outting yourself pretty much already so, right back at ya:
>It was time to stop ages ago.

>> No.31178467

>>31178335
You're trying so hard act like your not obsessed despite continually proving that you're obsessed. Get help, obsessed retard.

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>>31178467
And yet, /here/ you are out of your Twitter containment replying to me. Who was the obsessed one?
Touché.

>> No.31178804

>>31178701
>Touche
You want this to be true so hard that you just act like it's true. Another sign of being obsessed and assblasted to boot.

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31178888

idk why Silvervale decided to act like she's better than Hololive talents in some fashion. I've never seen such a boring fucking streamer in my life and that is despite the fact that her model is 80% thirst trapping "Lookamuhtitsssssss."

Vshojo is just straight up low tier garbage. At least Nyanners and Ironmouse tell fucking jokes I guess but everything else is just "omg BooOooOooBs! Im Nakey! Cummmmm HAHAHhWHAWUAH"

Open your eyes, vshocucks. Wake up and fucking realize that you don't have to sink to literal braindead jackoff degeneracy to be into vtubers.

>> No.31179247

>>31178888
Next the VShitshow will say
>IT'S OK WHEN THE JAPANESE ACT LIKE WHORES
>points to marine, choco sensei, aki, noel(forma de real), yabairys and mel

>> No.31179301

>>31178888
>idk why Silvervale decided to act like she's better
She's a whore anon. They need to feel they're better than SOMEONE, because the reality is they're better than no one. That's why they'll say they're not ashamed of themselves for being whores, or their body count, or the fact they're boring, or the fact they're only watched because they appeal to coomers, but will still get mad at you if you point that out, just like silver (or veiba, I literally can't distinguish the thots from one another) rage at not being able to talk about how they've got boyfriends without taking a viewership hit. They constantly lash out at others because of it, that's why them and the indie scene have so much drama, because their biggest influence is Vshojo.

>> No.31179372

Who?

>> No.31179406
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>>31178804
>You want this to be true so hard that you just act like it's true.
Got tail grabbed, huh? If you were /here/ for more than one day, you would know which words you shouldn't use. Don't blame because you're a clueless tourist.

>> No.31179552

>>31179406
You're so obsessed that you just start believing your schizo scenario. You find new ways to be a dumbass.

>> No.31179859

>>31179552
>Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed, Obsessed Obsessed, Obsessed, Retard, dumbass.
t. Vshitshow enjoyer tourist.

A pity a can't say anything else about this nobody because i didn't knew she existed until some hours ago.

>> No.31179982

>>31179859
>all those spelling errors
English reps, SEAfag.

>> No.31180010

>>31179859
When you keep showing that you're obsessed, you get called obesessed. When you keep being retarded, you get called retarded. When you're being an obsessed retard about someone you say you don't care about, it becomes comedy.

>> No.31180305

>>31179982
And you're dead >>31177209

>>31180010
You're seething quite hard there, kiddo. Didn't had your Fatburger today?

>> No.31180410

>>31180305
If I was seething I'd have left already. I'm getting the feeling that you genuinely are either a kid or missing half of your brain so I'm beginning to feel bad about laughing at you.

>> No.31180555

She has mommy energy and massive breasts and that's all I care about.

>> No.31180783

>>31180410
>so I'm beginning to feel bad about laughing at you.
I don't know man. Saying this while cussing repeatedly says otherwise, calling me a kid while you sperg is also a bad take. Says that you're feeling bad for someone /here/ is also tourist behavior. Now say this again without seething or crying.

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>>31165723
There were 11 of these before noon today PST. This has to be the 20th by now. Silvervale is literally making people lose their fucking minds.

God bless this sex wolf!

>> No.31180877

>>31180783
>cussing = mad
nice job outing yourself

>> No.31181033

>>31164019
Unironically never heard of her. Although it makes sense if you are a nobody to mention the biggest thing on any topic to seek clout.
But good job anon for exposing this type of pitiful behavior.

>> No.31181111

>>31181033
Hololive is big? Never heard of it before.

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>>31180877
>Retard, dumbass, retarded, missing half of your brain.
>Ni-nice job outing yourself.
Again with >N-NOOOOO IT'S YOU!!!

>> No.31181513

>>31181308
Considering how many time you just did the
>no u
Your post is ironic as fuck. Stop outing yourself.
If you aren't retarded, stop acting retarded.
If you aren't mad, stop saying things that imply that you're seething.
If you're not obsessed, stop acting like you're obsessed.

>> No.31181693

>>31181513
>Considering how many time you just did the
CTRL+F
obsessed

You just got BTFO now. What's the next step of your master plan?

>> No.31181695

I've literally heard Suisei play a clip of her dad singing one of her songs.
I've heard Pekora's mom.
Okayu brought her normie friend on stream before.
Matsuri mom has a twitter account.
What is this skank talking about?

>> No.31181770

>>31181693
I didn't even make that post. Yet you're still stuck on that throwaway line someone said to you.
I have a challenge to you: stop being an obsessed seething retard.

>> No.31181814

>>31164019
Vshojo really is the aew of vtubing kek

>> No.31181830

>>31181770
>obsessed seething retard.

He keeps digging.

>> No.31181852

>>31164019
She's just trying to act tough because she's the only vshojo who can't get a bf.

>> No.31181983

>>31181830
you can do better than that

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>>31181983
You forgot the words. Don't forget next time, ok? Just beware that some countries overcharges a lot for therapy. Maybe you should go back to Twitter? Just saying.

>> No.31182331

>>31182197
That's just boring man. You were going full seething and schizo earlier. What happened?

>> No.31182371

I barely watch non-holo chuubas but fuck off with this shit, silver is a nice girl

>> No.31182409

>>31182331
>You were going full seething and schizo earlier.
Projecting. Nice one.

>> No.31182472

>>31182409
>projecting a lack of anger
yeah, you got that right genius

>> No.31182566

>>31182472
>lack of anger
>Retard, dumbass, retarded, missing half of your brain.
Still digging.

>> No.31182615

>>31182566
>calling names = mad
again, you keep outing yourself

>> No.31182744

>>31166974
>interacting years ago means you're best friends forever
What a weird shitpost

>> No.31182768
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31182768

>>31182615
>What does cussing someone mean?
[phrasal verb] cuss (someone) out or cuss out (someone) US, informal. : to say angry and offensive words to (someone) He cussed me out for crashing his pickup truck. We got cussed out [=cursed out] by the boss for missing the deadline.
>You keep outing yourself
Projecting again.

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31182806

Keep seething, Holofags

>> No.31182940

>>31182768
>using a cherry-picked dictionary definition as an argument
>why do you keep calling me retarded?

>> No.31182970

VSHOJO = WHORES

end of the story

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>>31182806
we can't stop winning

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>>31182940
>using a cherry-picked dictionary definition as an argument
>Believe random schizo.
>Believe dictionary.

>> No.31183230

it took me awhile to realize she doesn't have a tail
missed opportunity

>> No.31183300

>>31183101
>dictionary 1:
> 1. to use profanity; curse; swear.
> 2. to swear at; curse.
>dictionary 2:
> 1. to use profanity; curse; swear
> 2. to swear at; curse
> 3. to criticize or reprimand in harsh terms (often followed by out)
lmao

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>>31183230
>doesn't have a tail
Huh?

>> No.31183859

>>31164019
>talk about yourself and your parents
>parents
First off, I dont know why this is some selling point, and secondly, there have been multiple parents who actually appeared on the stream and talked

>> No.31183921

>>31183300
>Both are right.
Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.31183977

>>31183859
It's a selling point FOR HER because she routinely does streams with her mother and brother, to the point where her mother has garnered a big following on Twitter on her own. She brought that up to reflect her own thing, not to say Hololive can't do it, but the nuance is lost on anybody who doesn't know her, so she's just a lying hating bitch or whatever. She also might not have been aware that several parents have appeared on HL streams.

I love how faggots gloss over the relationship comment tho.

>> No.31184003

>>31183921
>has a dictionary
>doesn't understand what cherry-picked means

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>>31166974

>> No.31184163

Tits

>> No.31184165

>>31164019
Thank you for reporting this information, Silvergay has now been blacklisted. Who's next? Let us know.

>> No.31184217

>>31182744
She is Silver's mom.

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>>31184163
She's got plenty of those, have some!

>>31184165
>blacklisted
You wish.

>> No.31184237

>>31166974
Success breeds jealousy unfortunately

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>> No.31184298

>>31180823
Its one schizz spamming threads. Probably Pippa.

>> No.31184368

>>31178888
>complains about whores while posting a whore

>> No.31184407

>>31164019
>Cover has said they don't care about their talents private life
>Multiple holo parents have appeared on stream
>Most holos "are themselves" unless you believe IRyS is making up 6 hour anime rants on the fly and has never seen anime before or Ame pretends to like terrariums for the number boost of course
>The only "expectation" that ties them down is permissions, and yesterday one of the composers for some VN took down a stream from a holostar because he thought they didn't have permission (they did).
So talent freedom means freedom to talk about your boyfriends cock on stream?

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To be honest, I'm glad Silver is moving up in the world. I can't believe my oshii has this many hate threads! From being who'd in /vsj+/ to filling up the catalog.

>> No.31184536

>>31184407
Is there a Hololive chuuba that regularly talks about their current boyfriend or husband on stream?

>> No.31184581

>>31184536
Yes but Kiara refers to me by the codename Chonkers

>> No.31184629

>>31184407
>yesterday one of the composers for some VN took down a stream from a holostar because he thought they didn't have permission (they did)
Actually no, he knew they had permission, but apparently he thought Rio had played too far into the VN, so he purposefully struck it himself and then made a tweet laughing about it. Something he was immediately lit on fire for doing on account of the fact he was obviously in contact with Cover and could have contacted them, but purposefully chose not to.

>> No.31184678

>>31184581
Okay Pomu.

>> No.31184721

>>31184536
Choco has talked about dates she had been on

>> No.31184737

sex

>> No.31184751

>>31176546
No one thinks about you at all retard

>> No.31185010

>>31181852
Maybe if she tried leaving the house for once.

>> No.31185062
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>>31184003
Same source you used:

>dictionary 1:
> 1. to use profanity; curse; swear.
> 2. to swear at; curse.
>dictionary 2:
> 1. to use profanity; curse; swear
> 2. to swear at; curse
Ex: He CUSSED the pedestrian for getting in his way.
> 3. to criticize or reprimand in harsh terms (often followed by out)
Ex: The coach CUSSED out the team for losing.

>Cuss:
>See synonyms for: cuss / CUSSED / cussing.

Cussing meaning with the same source you used as well:
In topics:
As in CURSE:
As in SWEARING:
As in SWEAR WORD:
Also: >>31182768
Even went to the trouble of hiding the examples to not be outted. Pathetic.

>> No.31185134

>>31164019
Umm aren't there plenty of Holos that have brought their parents or siblings to streams?
What's this idiot talking about?

>> No.31185315

>>31185062
>not including examples is hiding definition
>thinks that swearing = mad
>thinks that example means that cussing = mad
>goes through the trouble of finding the specific dictionaries
You know, I'm not just shooting shit when I say you keep outing yourself as an obsessed retard. You keep doing that. But I'm happy you came back. You already made my day. Guess you really are that unaware of yourself.

>> No.31185374

>>31185134
>again, ignores anything else she said, latching onto only one thing because he can demonstrate that she was wrong and then can scream "LYING WHORE!"
This is how this has been all day.

>> No.31186105

>>31185315
>Retard, retarded, dumbass.
>The R-word is a form of hate speech that stands for “retard,” “retarded,” or other OFFENSIVE words ending in “-tard.”
>Cussing: to say angry and offensive words to (someone) by definition he brought up himself.

>Goes through the trouble of finding the specific dictionaries
Same source he used, still pushing this narrative, what does he mean by that?

Swears at random people in random boards forum = normal behavior on his own terms. A nigger and a schizo.

>> No.31186192

Bottom line is that Silvervale lied. No ifs or buts.

>> No.31186244

>>31186105
Yes. I call you an obsessed retard for being an obsessed retard.
There's something so strange about a person calling others a nigger and a schizo and lobbing random insults, while at the same time insisting that someone else is clearly seething if they throw insults. Come on now. You can't lack this much awareness.

>> No.31186260

>>31186192
Keep saying it.

>> No.31186379

>>31164019
I always thought she was one of the only good ones in Vshojo, but of course, I was wrong. What a bitch.

>> No.31186524

>>31186244
>Tries to twist the meaning of words, lost on his own terms.
Got called a schizo for that.
>Swears at random people online and still considering this as normal behavior.
Got called a nigger for that.
>Complains.

>You can't lack this much awareness.
Projects.

>> No.31186599

>>31186524
Not complaining. Just stating what you're doing.
I'll explain again, since you have some issues with English.
Don't you see the irony of calling me names and insisting that calling names means that someone is mad?

>> No.31186681

>100+ posts
>no source or link
Sasuga holoboard.

>> No.31186904

>>31186681
It's a real quote from a real article. This same thread has been made over 20 times today alone. Holodrones are seething massively.

>> No.31186966

>>31186599
>Calls me retard, retarded, dumbass. Reason: ?
>Gets called out: Reason: >>31186524

>>31186599
>Don't you see the irony of calling me names and insisting that calling names means that someone is mad?
Maybe if you don't swear at people online for no reason, people won't call you out or tell you're seething?

>I'll explain again, since you have some issues with English.
Also, Projecting again.

>> No.31187056

>>31186966
You're missing the point because you think I'm seething. You're wrong. I'm actually enjoying this.
I'm just trying to explain this to you. You say that certain behaviors mean that I'm mad, but you're doing all of the things that you say make a person mad.
It's not that complex of a point. Calm down and think about it.

>> No.31187386

>>31187056
>You're wrong. I'm actually enjoying this.
Schizo confirmed.
>You say that certain behaviors mean that I'm mad, but you're doing all of the things that you say make a person mad.
>Suddenly stops swearing at me.
>Stops using green text.
>Behave like he is calm after being called out.
>Said himself >>31182331

>but you're doing all of the things that you say make a person mad
King of Projection. You're literally self-destructing.

>> No.31187578

>>31187386
I'm not sure what you're saying anymore, because you've created this whole schizo world that doesn't make any sense when I've not been mad at any point. I've enjoyed this. You just stopped engaging with what I'm saying and instead create a whole world inside your head you're engaging with.

I'm trying to calm you down. You seem to get riled up when someone calls you a retard so I stopped. You're legitimately so angry at this point that you stopped making any sense.

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Meanwhile I don't think about or know what holos have said at all

>> No.31187973

>>31185374
So what was she right about?
Holos have talked about having boyfriends, lust over guys openly, hell Noel and Flare talk about going on dates all the time. What is it exactly that they can't do?

>> No.31188070

>>31187578
>I'm not sure what you're saying anymore.
Tourist behavior.
>Because you've created this whole schizo world.
Follows by saying:
>I'm trying to calm you down.
>You seem to get riled up when someone calls you a retard so I stopped.
>You're legitimately so angry at this point that you stopped making any sense.
Proceeds to says that i'm the one who created the "schizo world".

>You just stopped engaging with what I'm saying and instead create a whole world inside your head you're engaging with.
Thinking that i'm "engaging" you, here's your mistake. You keep projecting and thinks that i'm "engaging" you for some reason and that is an awful schizo behavior.

>> No.31188195

>>31187825
>vshojo fans love to tout that silver is friends with ame, and that kson and nazuna are literally ex-hololive employees
>simultaneously also dont give a shit about hololive whenever they want
really makes you think

>> No.31188428

>>31164019
>Why does hololive live so rent free in vshojo's heads?
Success breeds jealousy

>> No.31188734

>>31188070
You're literally engaging with me right now. You just got so assblasted for a while that you were incapable of doing so.
You're also still full schizo. Go for a walk and breathe or something.

>> No.31188760

>>31187973
Most of what she said was right. And the weirdest part to me about all of this is that we're here on /vt/ which basically validates most of her criticism on a daily basis about what Holos are 'allowed' to do, whether by Hololive itself or by the fans, and yet somehow she's wrong. That's the part I don't understand.

You can say "oh those are just schizos" and I'd probably agree with you, but there's an awful lot of it that happens. And it shows up other places than here. It starts to get a little weird if the schizophrenia ends up elsewhere.

I think the crux of her comment was not necessarily about policy but about perception. I don't know if she was directly saying "Hololive prevents you from having a relationship, or being yourself, or having parents on" etc, but it seems to be a popular perception that Holos just can't do some shit. That's true even among holofags that I see talking on here.

So which is it? Are Hololivers restricted or aren't they? And is the quibble only with the specific things she mentioned while people ignore everything else? I don't really understand what the outrage is here other than dramafaggotry and tribalism. But, this is /vt/ and everything is the worst thing ever and must be blown out of proportions for bait and (you)s, so who knows if anybody actually gives a shit.

I will say this: schizos or not, Veibae saying shit got people mad enough at Kiara to try to block their collab. So, maybe y'all need to learn to fucking relax.

>> No.31189016

>>31188734
>You're literally engaging with me right now.
Here is your first mistake: To engage someone, a "debate" is required, i'm simply replying to a confirmed schizo, but you keep projecting like now, calling me a "full schizo" when you admited to be enjoying chatting with a stranger in a random board, schizo behavior.
>You just got so assblasted for a while that you were incapable of doing so
Things that you did till now:
Proved to be a tourist.
Proved to be a schizo.
Proved to enjoying chatting with strangers.
Proved to not know the meaning of words.
Realized that swearing at people online is not a good idea.
Projected your insecurities on me.
>Go for a walk and breathe or something.
You seem to be backpedaling with this statement. Plus, i already did 1/5 of Saitama training today, i'm good.

>> No.31189102

>>31185374
>ignores anything else she said
alright

>You can be yourself
They can choose to be themselves, more of a character or something in-between. They can talk about their daily lives, interests, problems, etc. But the thing is, not everyone has to or wants to. This is an idea western streamers struggle with, that you can reveal much as you are comfortable with.

>you can have relationship
About the closest she gets to being right. You can be in a relationship, but like any female streamer flesh or virtual they understand being seen as available brings in views. Nyanner's bf hasn't been good for her views either. Its less vshojo are above it and more they're willing to take the hit in views/money.

>your parents.
It is more unusual to have one that doesn't mention family. Plenty have brought parents on some becoming regulars. MamaMori is the latest one to become a frequent guest.

>not be tied down by all these expectations.
Honestly to me this is the real joke. Every streamer creates fans with expectations, every streamer crafts an image and any successful one has a couple main selling points. They all have ridiculous pressure pressed on them by fans to be something. Oh but she must mean by the company, well I look forward to one expressing views that don't fit the company's image on stream.

>> No.31189241

>>31188760
If such a perception even exists, it's only because sluts in Vshojo believe all women are like them and think about sex and dicks all the time, and not talking about it = they must be forbidden to do it.
They can't even fathom the idea that the vast majority of people prefer to keep stuff like that private, and only discuss it with someone very close to them.

>> No.31189949

>>31189016
You don't need to be in a debate to engage with what I'm saying, dumb fuck. It's a part of every conversation. Debates are just such a schizo form of conversation that people often get mad and stop engaging. Like what you just did. It's worse when you do it if you're not even debating.

Also, not everything is tourist behavior just because you don't like it, schizo. It's obvious that you're avoiding saying some things just because someone called you a redditor when you were a newfag. You also keep saying that I'm projecting. I ignored it because I don't give a rat's ass. But projecting insecurities? Nothing could be further from the truth. I assumed you were shitposting, which was projection. But seems like you were actually just butthurt, retarded and insecure. I never understood that you were insecure as fuck before just now. I just thought you were angry because someone pushed against you.

You say that I don't know the meaning of words when you were just btfo hard by a dictionary you brought up. You're unironically mad that someone called you an obsessed retard on 4chan. I'm telling you to go for a walk, because I know you'll come back. You can't help yourself. You were better off stopping a long time ago and you just kept on posting. You just need to calm down and get back to making sense.

>> No.31189974

>>31188760
>most of what she said was right
Nothing she said was right

>> No.31190073

>>31188195
OH SHIT, don't notice shit like that, you also forget to add Mousey ultimate Unity and bringing Holo's on SotD

>> No.31190266

>>31164019
Show me a Vtuber that hasn't said this.

>> No.31190465

>>31164019
Just off the top of my head
>mori streams with her mom
>kiara has streamed with her mom
>ollie has streamed with her mom
>matsuri has streamed with her mom (even has her own model) and brother has been on
>gura had her mom on stream
>pekora had her mom on stream
>subaru had her dad on stream
>suisei has had her sister on stream dozens of times
>irys had her dad and sister on stream
>chloe had her sister on stream
>countless other RL stories about members' families told in stream
what the actual fuck is thot talking about?

>> No.31190991

>>31189102

>>Oh but she must mean by the company, well I look forward to one expressing views that don't fit the company's image on stream.

This is how i can tell you're a troll.

>> No.31191118

>>31188760
It's been said a million times and saying it a million more won't make it less true: Literally the only "freedoms" VS talents that wouldn't fly in hololive is talking about their SOs and political hot takes. It's been proven they can even straight up camwhore as long as their not using the company's account.
>I don't understand the outrage
It's part of a wider problem that happens with every niche intrest that gets popular; normalfags trend-hop into it and subvert the scene, also the elephant in the room that "talent freedom" is just their marketing speak for "hololive bad". It's just really fucking irritating to see these twitch thots constantly take potshots at the people that opened the gates for their very existence and trying to change the scene into something that's antithetical to the culture that brought so many fans to them in the first place

>> No.31191514

>>31189949
>You don't need to be in a debate to engage with what I'm saying, dumb fuck. Like what you just did. It's worse when you do it if you're not even debating.
Back to swearing, "calls it conversation". I'm not your friend, anon.
>Debates are just such a schizo form of conversation that people often get mad and stop engaging.
Twisted perception of reality. Schizo behavior.
>Also, not everything is tourist behavior just because you don't like it, schizo.
Clueless about what i'm saying.
Using "retard" and "obsessed".
Vshojo shilling.
Talks like a twitter tourist.
>It's obvious that you're avoiding saying some things just because someone called you a redditor when you were a newfag.
>Redditor.
>Newfag.
Again, projecting.
>You also keep saying that I'm projecting. I ignored it because I don't give a rat's ass. But projecting insecurities? Nothing could be further from the truth.
Full schizo, retard, retarded, dumbass, half a brain, creator of a "schizo world", tells that i'm mad or seething for whatever reason it came to your mind, shitposting, butthurt, angry.
Let me explain something simple for you, you can't just push your narratives over someone and call this "truth", so, as you said:
>Nothing could be further from the truth.
Right back at ya. Everything that i called out is because of your misbehavior or because you're clueless.
>You say that I don't know the meaning of words when you were just btfo hard by a dictionary you brought up.
I used the same dictionary that you used, and proved the exact opposite of what you claimed just now:
>>31185062
>>31186105
>You're unironically mad that someone called you an obsessed retard on 4chan.
At least you got one right, i'm a 4chan, not a twitter tourist like you.
> I'm telling you to go for a walk, because I know you'll come back.
I was editing videos all this time, so i could never "come back" because i didn't even leave to begin with.
>You were better off stopping a long time ago and you just kept on posting. You just need to calm down and get back to making sense.
Again, telling me to calm down, this is literally projecting, it got stuck in your head that chatting with you here somehow makes me mad. That's why i keep telling you you are projecting your insecurities on me. A hint for you: I'm not mad, seething or triggered and you're not the first schizo that i've found here just to begin with, i'm used to be schizo behavior, that's also why i recognize one on spot.

>> No.31192304

>>31191514
I'll explain why I got it in my head that you're seething.
You keep saying that a seething person does X while doing X yourself.
It's not a complex point. But that's not the cake.

Then, instead of acknowledging that by shitposting, you start engaging in conversation like someone buttblasted to an insane degree. So what am I supposed to think? That you're purposefully behaving like an angry delusional retard?
You seem genuinely incapable of being anything but a retard.

>I was editing videos all this time, so i could never "come back" because i didn't even leave to begin with.
>I didn't leave to begin with
Holy mother of keks you absolute retard

>> No.31192501 [DELETED] 

>>31166974
Do you have more of these?

>> No.31192524
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>>31164019
i honestly dont even care anymore. i just want to see vwhores and vtards suffer.

>> No.31192767

>>31184536
Why do you even want the chuubas to talk about their boyfriend or husband on stream?

>> No.31193025

>>31192304
>I'll explain why I got it in my head that you're seething.
Here is your mistake, thinking that i'm seething because i'm simply replying to you. Pure schizo behavior.
Now, REAL REASONS that you're projecting:
>Swearing for no reason.
>Creating weird narratives.
>Twisted perception of reality.
>Think that he won an argument by not knowing the meaning of things, even after having been proven wrong in his own narrative.
Things that i called you:
Schizo(for obvious reasons, also listed above).
Nigger(Swearing at strangers on online boards).
Twitter tourist(Behave like a twitter user, also newfag and redditor projecting).

>Then, instead of acknowledging that by shitposting, you start engaging in conversation like someone buttblasted to an insane degree. So what am I supposed to think? That you're purposefully behaving like an angry delusional retard? You seem genuinely incapable of being anything but a retard.
"Engaging" and chatting with a schizo are not the same thing, as i stated above. Also back to swearing out of nowhere.
>angry delusional retard
Didn't swear at you even once, other than pointing your schizophrenia and obvious swearing addiction and i'm the angry delusional retard? Pure projection.
>Holy mother of keks you absolute retard
I know being jobless or entering in goblin mode had a massive increase lately, but if i don't work, i don't eat, simple as. I don't even need to draw that i'm home officing so i can stay here all day, but i guess this is too much for a schizo to understand.

>> No.31194482

>>31191118
I'd slightly extend it to projects. Certain types of streams get shot down fairly regularly, but it isn't simple as no fun allowed. Some ideas are too costly or not logistically possible for Cover, never mind indie. Sometimes it is incompetent on Cover's part, Kiara/Gura got messed around a lot with their concert ideas where it is possible a more flexible company would've been able to help more. Then there are silly things like needing perms to draw copyrighted characters.

Thing is though Vshojo is only like a inch more free. They don't worry about showing copyrighted stuff and will talk about barfing up their vaginal wall. But in terms of projects? Using talent to do anything creative? They deliver even less. Ultimate freedom, to go on public VRchat servers and show youtube videos (holos do the last part, they just link the video in chat).

>> No.31195267

>>31164019
Why do they want to talk about their BFs so bad? Even if it is accepted, would you as a viewer actually care?

>> No.31195673

>>31193025
>Here is your mistake, thinking that i'm seething because i'm simply replying to you.
And you go on to contradict yourself by showing that you understand that's not the reason.

>Creating weird narratives.
>Twisted perception of reality.
I'm doing indirect hypotheticals based on what you say. As in, if what you said is valid, what does it say about you?
That's the most weird narratives I've done. They are YOUR narratives. It's YOUR perception of reality I'm mirroring to show it doesn't make any sense. You keep playing yourself.

Also, can you stop with the dictionary shit. You brought that shit up, when the point was retarded to begin with. I only ran with it AND decided to show that you're incorrect because you were so obviously wrong. All you had was some example sentence containing an angry person when the definition didn't say anything about it. In fact, one of the definitions didn't even have an example sentence at all. There's not a single sane person in this earth that can think your point is correct.

>"Engaging" and chatting with a schizo are not the same thing, as i stated above.
Engaging is what you do in a conversation. Even normal chats. It's not a conversation at all if you don't engage in it. It's a monologue. You just don't command English very well.

> Also back to swearing out of nowhere.
Maybe because it's not a big deal, you water-headed idiot. You're genuinely mentally handicapped. Name-calling is just name-calling, retard. If you spent any amount of time on this website, you might have caught onto that fact.

>Didn't swear at you even once, other than pointing your schizophrenia and obvious swearing addiction and i'm the angry delusional retard? Pure projection.
I'm not talking about you swearing. I'm talking about you venting about absolute schizo shit that has nothing to do with anything after being called out for your entire cussing point. It was just fun shit-flinging at each other before you went full sperg. Now it's comedy due to you being this clueless.

>I know being jobless or entering in goblin mode had a massive increase lately, but if i don't work, i don't eat, simple as. I don't even need to draw that i'm home officing so i can stay here all day, but i guess this is too much for a schizo to understand.
You've yet again outed yourself obsessed. You played yourself again. I'm on vacation and could comfortably retire if I wanted to. But let's assume I'm jobless goblin that feeds on mold in their apartment.
Why are you posting with such a person on 4chan of all things when you need to work? Let's forget the other bullshit you've said. If you're telling the truth, you're not taking the job you require very seriously. Which tells me that you're not telling the truth or correct about everything, considering you said you need the job.

>> No.31198556

>>31195673
>And you go on to contradict yourself by showing that you understand that's not the reason.
I'm not contradicting myself, you're having a twisted perception that we're somehow discussing or having a conversation, when i'm simply replying to your nonsense littering.

>I'm doing indirect hypotheticals.
As i keep telling you, it's all fabricated by your twisted perception.

>As in, if what you said is valid, what does it say about you?
LITERALLY explained above, i've explained why do you think i'm seething and why i'm calling you out for things you said yourself, and i'm not using "indirect hypotheticals" i'm just stating facts, but you keep failing to understand because you keep projecting yourself on me.

>That's the most weird narratives I've done. They are YOUR narratives.
>>31192304
>Then, instead of acknowledging that by shitposting, you start engaging in conversation like someone buttblasted to an insane degree
> It's YOUR perception of reality I'm mirroring to show it doesn't make any sense.
>>31187578
>I'm not sure what you're saying anymore, because you've created this whole schizo world that doesn't make any sense when I've not been mad at any point. I've enjoyed this. You just stopped engaging with what I'm saying and instead create a whole world inside your head you're engaging with.
>You keep playing yourself.
Ahem.

>Also, can you stop with the dictionary shit. You brought that shit up, when the point was retarded to begin with. I only ran with it AND decided to show that you're incorrect because you were so obviously wrong. All you had was some example sentence containing an angry person when the definition didn't say anything about it. In fact, one of the definitions didn't even have an example sentence at all. There's not a single sane person in this earth that can think your point is correct.
All right, explaining to you step by step:
I posted >>31182768
You >>31183300
I posted >>31185062
You >>31185315
Same source of your bullshit on pic at >>31185062
2 examples ON PIC:
He cussed the pedestrian for getting in his way.
The coached cussed out the team for losing.
Also on pic: See synonyms for: cuss / cussed / cussing.
*clicks* Pic related <<<
Cussing 5 tabs:
as in Blasphemy
as in CURSE
as in execration
as in SWEARING
as in SWEAR WORD.
The definition you posted yourself:
>dictionary 1:
> 1. to use profanity; CURSE; SWEAR
> 2. to SWEAR at; CURSE.
I posted:
>What does cussing someone mean?
[phrasal verb] cuss (someone) out or CUSS OUT (someone) US, informal. : to say ANGRY and OFFENSIVE words to (someone) He cussed me out for crashing his pickup truck. We got cussed out [=cursed out] by the boss for missing the deadline.
I posted:
>The R-word is a form of hate speech that stands for “retard,” “retarded,” or other OFFENSIVE words ending in “-tard.”
>Cussing: to say angry and offensive words to (someone) by definition he brought up himself.

Now that the definition of cussing inclues retard and synonyms, a person that throw offensive terms against someone using the definitions posted above is:
>Calm
>Angry.
QRD: You're projecting.

>Engaging is what you do in a conversation. Even normal chats. It's not a conversation at all if you don't engage in it. It's a monologue. You just don't command English very well.
If you bark to a dog, you're having a conversation? Why do you think we're having one when you're schizoposting?

>Maybe because it's not a big deal, you water-headed idiot. You're genuinely mentally handicapped. Name-calling is just name-calling, retard. If you spent any amount of time on this website, you might have caught onto that fact.
Proving that you're a schizo again, thinks that it's normal to swear at people online, as i said, if i was your friend, it probably would be considered normal, swearing at strangers? Just makes you look like a schizo.

>I'm not talking about you swearing. I'm talking about you venting about absolute schizo shit that has nothing to do with anything after being called out for your entire cussing point. It was just fun shit-flinging at each other before you went full sperg. Now it's comedy due to you being this clueless.
Your entire narrative of what cussing is just melted down. Full sperg and clueless, again, projecting.

>You've yet again outed yourself obsessed. You played yourself again. I'm on vacation and could comfortably retire if I wanted to.
Retire? How old are you? If you're over 30 and is sperging out this bad in /vt/ you literally outted as a mentally ill person.

>> No.31198662

>>31198556
There's a rule about extremely low quality post.

>> No.31198880

>>31195673
But let's assume I'm jobless goblin that feeds on mold in their apartment. Why are you posting with such a person on 4chan of all things when you need to work? Let's forget the other bullshit you've said. If you're telling the truth, you're not taking the job you require very seriously. Which tells me that you're not telling the truth or correct about everything, considering you said you need the job.
I know your perspective is twisted, but when people upload things or when editing softwares needs to do their job, you have to wait, actually, most jobs requires to do a lot of waiting, not just video editing or when uploading stuff. Once again, distorted perspective of things.

>> No.31199008
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>>31198556
Forgot attachment.

>> No.31199706

>>31198556
>dictionary
Again, you didn't understand at all. The definition is irrelevant. I'm correct, but you would be a dumbass for even making the point if you were correct. You chose a dumb thing to pay attention to and on top you were wrong. I'm repeating myself so that it might get into that ESL head of yours.

>projecting
Look pal, you're back to schizo rambling. This is getting boring.
I'll keep this short. Only things I projected onto you in hindsight were
>a security in yourself
>actually enjoying a little back-and-forth shit-flinging
>not throwing a fit once you're called names
>common sense
My mistake.

Peace, my friend. Hopefully you get over being called a retard online one day. When I said that you were better off stopping posting, it was genuine even if a little tongue-in-cheek. I'll leave. Hopefully that gives you some amount of peace from your obsession.

>> No.31200572

>>31199706
>Again, you didn't understand at all. The definition is irrelevant. I'm correct, but you would be a dumbass for even making the point if you were correct. You chose a dumb thing to pay attention to and on top you were wrong. I'm repeating myself so that it might get into that ESL head of yours.
The definition is irrelevant:
>>31183300 >>31184003
>>31182472 >>31182615
> I'm correct, but you would be a dumbass for even making the point if you were correct. You chose a dumb thing to pay attention to and on top you were wrong
"I didn't argument shit, but i'm correct."
>I'm repeating myself so that it might get into that ESL head of yours.
By the own definition you brought up, you're angry. I'm the ESL? Right.

>Look pal, you're back to schizo rambling. This is getting boring.
I'll keep this short. Only things I projected onto you.
Here is the biggest of your mistakes, projecting yourself on me, i'm not a schizo, simple as. That's the major difference between you and i.

>Peace, my friend. Hopefully you get over being called a retard online one day. When I said that you were better off stopping posting, it was genuine even if a little tongue-in-cheek. I'll leave. Hopefully that gives you some amount of peace from your obsession.
Maybe next time, before calling someone retarded, check if you're on Twitter or 4ch, so you won't tail grabbed again? You should stop posting because you're 30+ just to begin with.

>I'll leave
Backpedaling after the cussing beat, huh? Just one more thing, don't reply if yo ucan't handle the answer, at your age, getting stressed might be dangerous.

>Hopefully that gives you some amount of peace from your obsession.
I was in peace since the beggining, the difference is that i'm not a schizo that enjoys this stuff, but i must place tourists in their place, as usual. Plus, yab confirmed >>31194785.

>> No.31200871
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>obsessed vshists seething at hololive
>obsessed inceltrannies seething at hololive
funny how shit everything turns when amerimutts are involved

>> No.31201481

>>31200572
I'll tell you a secret. It's really apparent that you aren't that bright. You aren't putting anyone in their place.
Your brand of dumbass would just empower tourists to stay. I kind of started to like you like a person likes a dumb dog. Once I realized that you're genuinely mentally deficient, you're kind of endearing. That's why I wanted to calm you down. I'm leaving for your own good.

Nobody questioned the yab. And you still didn't get the point about dictionary definitions. I just played ball in your court because your point was so retarded. Even if you had won that game, you picked a retarded thing to pay attention to.

>> No.31201641

>>31188760
>Veibae saying shit got people mad enough at Kiara to try to block their collab.
And it worked. It banned veibae from collabs. But sadly not the whole group.

>> No.31201675

>>31164019
Why can't we just enjoy what we want to enjoy? Why do they have to impose their standards on us?

>> No.31201704

>>31188195
>vshojo fans love to tout that silver is friends with ame
???
Never heard that being in the general, sounds like you bought into a bait thread

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>>31200871
>haha she must be so butthurt at this art
>meanwhile
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565054904?t=3h34m43s

>> No.31201888

>>31201675
Hypocrite

>> No.31201953

>>31201704
>vshojo fans talking about silver
yeah, that's the first I've heard about it, too

>> No.31202743

>>31201481
>I'll tell you a secret. It's really apparent that you aren't that bright. You aren't putting anyone in their place.
>I'll leave. Hopefully that gives you some amount of peace from your obsession.
Seems like i'm not the obsessed one after all. Did you came back just to make a fool of yourself? Pitiful.

>Your brand of dumbass would just empower tourists to stay.
Watameschizo gone.
Teamate schizo gone.
Aquaschizo gone.
As i said,you are clueless and a tourist.

I kind of started to like you like a person likes a dumb dog.
I know you like me, because you keep projecting.

>Once I realized that you're genuinely mentally deficient, you're kind of endearing. That's why I wanted to calm you down. I'm leaving for your own good.
"Calm down", outted himself as being the obsessed one, outted himself as being 30+ schizoposting. Anon, do yourself a favor and leave, this place is not for wet noodles and old farts, can't you go tailor or something? Take care of your mental health old anon.

>Nobody questioned the yab. And you still didn't get the point about dictionary definitions.
I literally drawed your steps and your mistakes, if you still failed to understand, it's your own fault. But hey, you learned that calling people "retarded" is considered cussing, so you won't leave empty-handed at least.

I just played ball in your court because your point was so retarded. Even if you had won that game, you picked a retarded thing to pay attention to.
"I'm not gonna counterargument, but i won." You kinda outted yourself as obsessed already so...

>> No.31204248

>>31201704
>>31201953
pre-holo thing, occasional talk on twitter too

Weirder though she has popped up in Kiara's chat a few times, think she even knew what Kiara said in a members stream. So make sense of that shit. Makes me wonder if management is feeding them poorly thought out talent first lines.

>> No.31205842

>>31164019
silvercute

>> No.31207093

>>31164019
ALL OUT WAR

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>>31205842

>> No.31212155

>>31190465
it feels like every time somone publicly talks shit about hololive they have no idea what they are talking about

>> No.31212597

>>31187973
>Noel
>dates
Don't you mean Choco?

>> No.31212733

vshojo the company that let there talent almost die from alcohol poisoning at a company part yep good company

>> No.31212776

>>31164019
This is what indie wrestlers say about WWE too.

>> No.31212810

>>31212776
indie wrestlers are a thing?

>> No.31212892

>>31164019
>You can be yourself
If they can be themselves then let's start with them admitting their past faults, like cheating on their husbands.
This bitch Silvervale doesn't know the meaning of professionalism. How about she work corporate first because spouting this kiddie entitled bullshit.

>> No.31212919

>>31164019
>Someone said something kind of negative about Hololive

MOBILIZE MOBILIZE THIS IS NOT A DRILL
DEFCON 5 PEOPLE
I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>> No.31213041

>>31181033
SIlver outperforms 90% of hololives talents on a slow night

>> No.31213140

>>31212810
There is a amazingly wide world of wrestling far beyond that of wwe

>> No.31213203

>Vshitjo translation: We are nasty whores who just want to talk about our pussy and people we know irl due to lack of any fucking talent or personality, nor do we care for their well-being

>> No.31213239

>>31212776
>>31213140
Lmao the only difference between indie and WWE are media coverage and venue size. Anything else is sourgraping.

>> No.31213355

>>31213041
thats odd cuz one of the most hated members of holo makes more money then all of vshojo and streams less

>> No.31213377

>>31164019
>Holokek: Wear this vtuber model, this is your character, here's your schedule
>Vshojo: You're a vtuber? Cool, do your thing, try not to fuck up too bad and we'll sell your merch

>> No.31213560

>>31213355
That’s why he said 90 percent and not 100 percent

>> No.31213832

ironmouse is carrying shoujo and the other members are just eye candy

>> No.31214043

>>31213832
Vei gets about as many viewers than she does

>> No.31214136

>try not to shittalk the company and we'll still sell your merch

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>>31175057

>> No.31214195

>>31214136
meant to quote this retard >>31213377

>> No.31214342

>>31214136
Sounds good to me

>> No.31214571

>>31213239
More fighting with fans and blood though

>> No.31216204

>>31164019
Is she retarded? Couldn't she even have searched for a clip before making such an easily verifiable claim?

>> No.31216660

Silver hasn't shown herself to be the most socially aware or smartest chuuba out there, and a lot of this is so perfectly written that I can't help but wonder how much of the interview was written by the corpo itself, using her as a mouthpiece.

>> No.31216801

>>31212776
Except the criticism about WWE is 100% valid, unless you're a newfag who doesn't remember what the WWF was and the stupid and horrible things McMahon did before Steve Austin and The Clique saved his company's ass.

>> No.31216929

i don't know if you fags realized or not, but her tweet thanking the author for making the article was deleted kek. if she has half a brain she would just ignore it but expect her to talk about it or sperg out

>> No.31217020

>>31166974
Why is she trashtalking people she's supposed to be friends with? Jealousy?

>> No.31217424

>>31189102
>This is an idea western streamers struggle with, that you can reveal much as you are comfortable with.
Individual comfort or "I don't want to enrage a hundred thousand angry fans" comfort? There's a profound difference between those two things, and if you're pretending the latter doesn't exist in the Hololive sphere you literally don't pay attention enough to what gets the schizos going.

>Nyanner's bf hasn't been good for her views either.
This continues to be a popular rrat without any facts to back it up. Nyan's CCV is actually back to where it was in August 2021 and recovering. People overrated the CCV spike during the OTK / LSF interest during December / January and thought those were the new normal numbers. You actually prompted me to go look at the overall health of VShojo girls and there are some interesting and common viewer behaviors across the board for all of them that I can't explain right now (except that the OTK crowd didn't stick around and Mouse's subathon didn't result in any growth at all, similar to Ludwig's, which they both discussed on SOTD).

But, to be intellectually honest, let's assume Nyan has lost a couple thousand CCV due to getting a boyfriend, let's compare fan reaction to, say, Pekora suddenly getting a boyfriend. What do you think the difference in hit would be between the two? Better? Worse? Remember, this is a girl who didn't spend Christmas with her fans and got railed for it. The perceptions of freedom are not equal and it has nothing to do with "western whores" creating rrats.

>parents
I am willing to give this one because I think she said it more in relation to herself because her content with her mom and brother is a large part of hers. However, she was clearly wrong on this one, but I wonder why she said it (and I don't think she's making shit up, so I wonder if some holos haven't been allowed and she's heard that from people).

>Every streamer creates fans with expectations
Sure, but JP holos especially have different expectations on them than the EN ones. Hell, even this board constantly bitches about the differences in what each branch falls in which wrt expectations. To a lot of people on this board, the Holo-ENs are just as bad as VShojo or any indies. All "western whores" while their JP chuubas are pure and innocent idols who would never betray them tee hee. The bending over backwards people do to justify the actions of the JP holos is amazing to me, while the ENs don't get the same consideration. So, yes, fans create expectations, but the scale of them is no where close to equal. Those expectations create more restrictions in one avenue and less in another. Further, let's be honest here, Hololive is about Hololive first. If their talents do things that "harm" the company they are punished, as we've seen time and time again. Ironmouse can literally go on her stream and criticize the handling of the Nux situation and nothing happens. So the expectations are not limited to fans either.

>> No.31217485

>>31189241
>it's only because sluts in Vshojo believe all women are like them and think about sex and dicks all the time, and not talking about it = they must be forbidden to do it.
>/vt/ - IT'S ONLY THE VSHOJO GIRLS WHO ARE WHORES WHO YAB ALL DAY
>also /vt/ - ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES WHO NEED TO BE CONTROLLED OR THEY'LL JUST YAB ALL DAY
Make up your minds.

>> No.31217692

>>31191118
>It's been proven they can even straight up camwhore as long as their not using the company's account.
Or mention Taiwan
Or speak ill of Cover
Or get on the wrong manager's bad side
Or not spend Christmas with their fans
Or not stream
Or dare to want to leave the company and join another, forcing them to start over because Cover owns everything they did and can still make money off them even if they're not employed anymore

Y'know, otherwise totally free. I made my post asking for intellectual honesty because I see you faggots tearing at each other all the time over various things the Holos do, whether JP or EN or individuals doing things, or whatever. You're not even consistent in your criticism of your own company. So, what really bugs you is that someone who ISN'T on the inside said something "bad" about your beloved Corporation and how dare they because only WE can shit talk Cover and the talents. Meanwhile, we can call everybody else "western whores".

>> No.31217832

>>31216660
>corpo writes for the talent
This isn't Hololive. Basic info: VShojo is "talent first", they do not own or control their talents. This has been the theme of the group since the beginning and you fags still don't get it. Your heads are so far up your own asses about what a "vtuber company" is supposed to be you can't conceive other concepts at all. In short, you're exactly what Silvervale was talking about in the first place: the perception of vtuber companies does not start and stop with Hololive.

>> No.31218277

Silvervale can fuck off

>> No.31218344

>>31218277
holy shit you got her

>> No.31218873

>>31218277
Unironically the best post in this thread, quick, clean, and straight to the point

>> No.31219058

>>31217692
You can’t speak Ill of any company you work for, that is common sense.

>> No.31219148

>>31217692
>Or not stream
67 days since last stream, I don't even have to say who.

>> No.31219162

>>31219058
Ironmouse literally did, because they don't work for VShojo, VShojo works for them. She got over it, but at the time she was quite pissed.

>> No.31219203

>>31219148
In this case, this is something VShojofags have in common with y'all. The threads were unbearable while Nyan and Vei weren't streaming for almost 2 months.

>> No.31219382

>>31217692
You could be Jesus Christ and talking about Taiwan would still bring the Zhang Rush against you.

>> No.31219487

Only thing that really matters is that Silvervale lied and everything else is whatever.

>> No.31219902

>>31164019
>You can be yourself
So she admits most of vshojo are also massive whores while off camera too?

>> No.31220027

>>31219487
anons don't understand this. the article itself is fine. get rid of the lying bullshit and it's literally all good.

>> No.31220176

>>31166974
I wonder where silver got the weird ideas about how Hololive is so "restricting" when it comes to boyfriends (regis) and other retard shit.

>> No.31220292

>>31182744
Youtubers or streamers talking once means they are basically married you should know this

>> No.31220388

ESL thread

>> No.31220648

>>31219382
Yeah, but the corporate response would not be the same, but we don't need to rehash that old story because you should already know what happens.

>> No.31220712

>>31219902
I love how you folks continue to prove what she says right every time you call her and the others a "whore".

>> No.31220769

>>31220176
>Pekora
>Rushia
>/vt/ losing its mind EN girls might have to collab with Tempus
It's a mystery, anon.

>> No.31220826

>>31220292
>talking once
Boy oh boy you folks don't know shit.

>> No.31221064

>>31216801
Nah, senpai. All it really shows is that indie workers don't have what it takes to make it onto the big screen, and their resentment means they never will.

>> No.31221109

>>31164019
I think you guys are letting Silvervale successfully gaslight you.
The whole conflict is over having boyfriends. She tacked on all these lies about family and being yourself to distract the issue. The only controversy is the boyfriend part. She doesn't like how some Holos get a buff in viewership due to not having a bf.

>> No.31221231

>>31220826
Look how talking more than once worked out for ame and gura
friends my ass lmao

>> No.31221450

i read this threads and can't believe people care this much about what girl is with which company

it's like console wars but with fake computer women

>> No.31221626

>>31217832
I hear you, but this whole thing reeks of marketing department speech.

>> No.31221741

>>31221109
But Anon, she's the only one who can't keep a bf and is constantly seething over it...

>> No.31222084

Let me know when something actually interesting happens.

>> No.31223075

https://twitter.com/dvcky_/status/1560471650134401024
Oh hey the author tweeted about it

>> No.31223259

Honest opinion: I don't understand the appeal of the majority of the Vshojo girls. Tehy really just feed into the stereotypes of lonely men attached to a fake image of a sexy girl. They can't sing, they have no skills outside of streaming, and they're not even that entertaining. They're literally just fufilling the dreams of lonely men who wants to watch an anime girl say and do borderline nsfw content while interacting with her. There's nothing wrong with that, but its the lowest form of streaming, no better than the twitch thots who uses their bodies to get views, except it isnt even their bodies. Look at the HoloMyth girls, for example. Ina can draw, Ame does wonderful work behind the scenes to set up new models and streaming collabs, Kiara is a great host and really bridges the gap between culture, Mori can sing, and Gura can also sing and be entertaining. The Vshojo girls have nothing to them. NOTHING!! And I'll be the first to say it, Ironmouse's opera singing? It's not that great.

>> No.31223422

>>31164019
Vshojo bad
Whores bad
Kayfab bad

Simple as

>> No.31223632

>>31223075
>no division, ok?
>btw those are corporate actors
lol

>> No.31223806

>>31221741
by her words she fucked and then got dumped by 5(five)[cinco] guys. Just imagine how menhera she is.

>> No.31223834

>>31223075
Holobronies proving once again that they are the worst fans in the vtubing community

>> No.31223947

>>31223075
>He/They
What a faggot lmao

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that article reads like a paid for ad piece. I don't know, bits of don't feel organic or something like that.

>> No.31224245

>>31223834
And the comments in the tweet prove it. Half or more of those people commenting are literally from /here/ as well

>> No.31224262

>>31223075
>all those containment breakers replying
/vt/ was a mistake

>> No.31224330

>>31223075
Nice containment breaking retards. Make it less obvious next time, Jesus Christ.

>> No.31224445

>>31221064
>have what it takes
Vince McMahon pushed steroid use on his wrestlers in the 80s.
Made every wrestler have a "day job" in the 90s (a wrestling trash collector!)
Kicked all of his existing talent to the curb when they wouldn't go along with his vision of anything
Still does that to this day

Sounds about right to compare WWE to Cover.

>> No.31224449

>>31220769
What does Pekora have to do with all this anon?

>> No.31224500

>>31221231
>once
Again, you guys really don't know shit.

>> No.31224558

>>31221626
It wasn't. It was how Silver felt about things, right or wrong.

>> No.31224772

>>31224445
Most popular and high quality product on the market? Seems about right.

>> No.31224843

And she’s a criminal

>> No.31224849

>>31224772
Yeah, exactly. Also the shittiest and least entertaining, especially these days, but marks will continue to lap up everything McMahon shits down their gullets.

Everything is apropos.

>> No.31224892

>>31224500
I said more than once retard

>> No.31224929

>>31224449
Did you spend Christmas with Pekora?

>> No.31225014

>>31224892
You still don't know shit if you're minimizing it.

>> No.31225130

>>31223259
Iron Mouse sings better than everyone in hololive and it's not even close.

>> No.31225219

>>31225130
Silver is honestly not bad either and nyan is also ok.

>> No.31225229

>>31178888
Ironmouse hasn't told jokes in a year, ever since she made her content about interviews and her sickness

>> No.31225292

>>31223806
Something about her voice/the way she talks gives this feeling.

>> No.31225293

>>31178888
Says the guy posting a boring pedobait vtuber.

>> No.31225325

>>31223259
Good, keep your "fanservice" Hololive slut whores away from my pure and innocent VShojo girls. I don't want your ilk corrupting them.

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>>31164019
Because only Mel, Froot, and Nyan have talent and the others would have already been let go due to the lack of it?

>> No.31225398

>>31225014
Nigga im saying gura and ame used to stream together a lot and now they dont fucking interact.
You think silverwhore is fairing any better?

>> No.31225410

Silvervale deserves correction for saying those things.
I volunteer for the burden of performing such task.

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>>31225398
If you gauge everything only by what you see on streams, no wonder you folks are so titled by everything. Also, that goes for Ame and Gura, too. Not everything has to happen in your field of view, anon.

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>>31225410
I will only allow this if you answer this most serious question:

Will you give those delicious funbags the attention they deserve?

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>>31164019
Reminder if you shit talk vshojo you get their official shills coming to you to defend them like wumaos.

This fucker for example, look up his tweets, it's embarrassing https://twitter.com/ihhhhiii/with_replies

>> No.31225917

>>31225835
About as bad as holo shills

>> No.31225951

>>31225835
Meanwhile, at Hololive Twitter: >>31223075

>> No.31226004

>>31225835
isn't that the guy from pleddit? with vcuck as his tag? kek

>> No.31226088

>>31226004
Dunno, anon. Why don't you tell us all about "pleddit".

>> No.31226134

>>31225835
yeah if you talk shit about hololive definitely nothing happens yep

>> No.31226223

>>31225835
>look up his tweets, it's embarrassing
man tweets like every other hour
hes a lost cause

>> No.31226225

>>31178888
>At least Nyanners and Ironmouse tell fucking jokes
I used to like her but ironmouse seems to just talk about being sick and connor all the time now, nyanners is still alright though. I'd say froot is fine as well and as much as I find melody boring she seems good at doing her main stuff which is porn so I can respect her.
The rest I don't like or get though.

>> No.31226311

>>31226225
Nyan is literally doing a kino stream right now taking a psuedo lie detector test that shocks her if she lies. Haruka is reading her the questions.

>> No.31226363

>>31164019
>We want to show that there is an agency which is not like Hololive.
>conveniently ignoring nijisanji, the 2nd biggest company that's NOT like hololive.
hololive's living completely rent free in their head, they built the company AROUND hololive. and not even mentioning nijisanji that's already managed to be different from hololive and goes head to head against it.

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>>31226088
>>31226223
lmao it is the guy kek
some anon on /#/ found the vcuck schizo posting and he found out about it

>> No.31226428

>>31226004
What's his URL? Curious to see if his shit on there is as bad as his tweets.

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31226444

Whenever or not Silver was speaking maliciously about this. It only soured me to the fact that she pretty much screwed over Ironmouse of any more collabs with Hololive.

That alone will make people unironically hate Silvervale now.

>> No.31226491

>>31226444
No she didn’t

>> No.31226506

>>31223075
>All those literal faggots replying
stop breaking containment retards

>> No.31226541

>>31226363
She mentions Hololive for a reason, anon. Since the start of VShojo, which to remind everybody took place two months after Taiwan-gate, VShojo has promoted itself as "not Hololive". Nijisanji-EN hadn't even debuted in the west at that point and was not part of the equation. And never has been. Plus, the perception of Nijisanji isn't the same as Hololive, as everybody keeps parroting. There's less difference between VShojo and Nijisanji than VShojo and Hololive.

I don't know why this is controversial. The average non-vtuber fan has probably heard of Hololive and that is the popular perception of vtubing companies. Even here on /vt/, you retards think that if anybody exists is must be just like Hololive or it is "ethottery" or "western whores". You all validate her comments and the perceptions every time you post shit on here.

>> No.31226543

>>31226491
Well, It depends on how well Ironmouse can talk her way out of managing pass this yab

>> No.31226590

>>31226423
That guy is fucking embarrassing.

Say anything about veibae and shylily he will instantly post the screenshot of them interacting in a twitch chat, thinking they're all fine now.

>> No.31226626

>>31226444
>It only soured me to the fact that she pretty much screwed over Ironmouse of any more collabs with Hololive.
Just like Veibae blocked all collabs with Hololive forever right? Just like getting Kson / Nazuna will block all collabs with Hololive forever right?

You fucks keep saying the same shit over and over and it never comes true.

>> No.31226642

>>31226590
I'm pretty sure there isn't any sort of issue anymore between those two though?

>> No.31226650

>>31226543
She won’t have to talk her way out of anything because hololive doesn’t care about silvers comments

>> No.31226702

>>31226642
Either way any company with sense would have bonked veibae about those comments. She got away with it because "talent freedom" is an excuse for management to do nothing.

>> No.31226708

>>31226590
I mean he’s right

>> No.31227481

Guy who did the interview is doubling down on twitter kek

>> No.31227562

>>31227481
Good

>> No.31228221

>>31227481
Gotta keep his vshojo interviews going.

I see he has done the orbiters too like onigiriEN.

>> No.31228444

>>31225630
Not only that but I also have the beef jerky ready to be administered afterwards.

>> No.31228551

Holobronies schizoing out lmao

>> No.31230725

>>31226702
>Either way any company with sense would have bonked veibae about those comments.
Why. Let's say it was, I dunno, Miko saying something about how some indie Jap vtuber was copying her, what do you think Cover's response would be? The fans?

>> No.31230836

>>31228551
What I love about holobronies is that they know Hololive / Cover sucks as an agency / company but they still won't let anybody criticize it. THEY can, they can absolutely hate all over Hololive / Cover but don't you outsiders dare levy anything against our beloved big money making soulless entity that doesn't give a fuck about them.

>> No.31230998

>>31230836
It's funny too because Nijifags aren't like this. They're basically hostile to the corpo side of their company and always call Anycolor out for being shit when it is. It's literally only Holofags.

>> No.31231078

If I had the opportunity as a vtuber to sign with hololive or vshojo, I’d go for vshojo every time.

>> No.31231437

>>31225293
Anon were not talking about nyanners

>> No.31231610

This seems like a foot in mouth situation to me

>> No.31231616

>>31226311
>that shocks her if she lies
I don't think she's going to survive

>> No.31232194

>>31231610
It's a nothingburger that only tribalist dramafaggots care about. Just look at the responses to what she said. Not one sane asshole among them.

>>31231616
Almost didn't.

>> No.31234188

>>31231610
I wish it was a Froot in mouth situation.

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>>31164019
This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is what you call a salty bitch who wished she was as popular and loved as hololive girls.
Get fucked silverturd.
You don't deserve sympathy with this attitude.

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