/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31158890
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>42,357: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,222: Miko (Hololive)
>32,197: Hololive (Hololive)
>31,803: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>28,942: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>24,895: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>24,778: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,412: Miko (Hololive)
>19,395: Noel (Hololive)
>17,555: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,237: Met (774 Inc.)
>13,957: Flare (Hololive)
>13,626: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>13,468: Shu (Nijisanji)
>12,529: Hal (Neo Porte)
>12,460: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,509: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,064: Vox (Nijisanji)

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Can someone spoonfeed me on the rrats nest

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>13,686: Mysta (Nochairsanji)
>11,550: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,165: Shu (Nochairsanji)
>10,556: Luca (Nochairsanji)
>10,064: Vox (Nochairsanji)
>9,541: Kyo (Nochairsanji)
>7,034: Noir (Hololive)
>6,561: Petra (Nochairsanji)
>6,491: Axel (Hololive)
>6,432: Mori (Hololive)
>5,297: Mysta (Nochairsanji)
>5,174: Noir (Hololive)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genchink Zhangpact)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 12
Nochairsanji - 6
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Gura
2x: Fauna, Mysta
1x: Ike, Vox, Kronii, Luca, Elira, Baelz

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 27
Gura: 20
Fauna: 16
Mysta: 14
Luca: 10
Shu: 10
Ike: 8
Elira: 8
Vox: 8
Kronii: 7
Baelz: 7
Alban: 4
Noir: 3
Rosemi: 3
Selen: 3
Mori: 3
Ren: 3
Amelia: 2
Axel: 1
Ina: 1
Kiara: 1
Magni: 1
IRyS: 1

how do we save HoloEN?

>>31158923
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust

>PER COMPANY
9x: Nijisanji
9x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
4x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Pekora
1x: Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Polka, Towa, Shion

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
142x: Hololive
78x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
28x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
8x: Nijisanji
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Kanata
4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>31158890
NijiEN owakon

>>31158890
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>13,686: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,550: Mumei (Hololive) *Z: 12,460*
>11,165: Shu (Nijisanji) *Z: 13,468*
>10,556: Luca (Nijisanji) *Z: 11,509*
>10,064: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,541: Kyo (Nijisanji)
>7,034: Noir (Holostars)
>6,561: Petra (Nijisanji)
>6,506: Kaela (Hololive)
>6,491: Axel (Holostars)
>6,251: Kaela (Hololive)
>5,760: Mori (Hololive) *Z: 6,432*
>5,297: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>5,174: Noir (Holostars)
>5,156: Zeta (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)
7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)
9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nijisanji) – 25,830 (Nijisanji Koshien B League Watchalong)
14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 36,531 (Nijisanji Koshien Finals Watchalong)
15. Moona (Hololive) - 16,769 (Minecraft HoloID CUP Rules)
16. Moona (Hololive) – 19,113 (Minecraft HoloID CUP)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)
18. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 13
Nijisanji – 5

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Gura
2x: Moona, Mysta
1x: Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii, Luca, Elira

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 10
Nijsanji - 8

>SILVER PER STREAMER
3x: Shu
2x: Reine
1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Elira, Anya, Mori, Baelz, Fauna, Mumei

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 11
Nijsanji - 7

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo
1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen, Mumei, Reine, Ren, Anya, Ike, Shu

>OBLITERATED

>>31159001
We let NijiEN accelerate itself into the ground. HoloEN is doing fine.

>>31158960
>letting newfags in and break containment
no

>>31158890
NijiEN truly is just luxiem and friends.

>>31158832
>32k
That's not bad honestly, considering that more than half of the people in it are shitters.
>Ren: 1832
lmao. Actually all of iLUMA is at the bottom kek.

>>31158960
suck my cock and maybe I'll consider it

>>31158890
HOLO EVENTS:


August 19 Shirogane Noel New Outfit
August 20 Ookami Mio
August 23 Hololive English -Council-
August 25 Holo Summer live
August 26 Holo Summer live
August 27 Holo Summer live
August 28 Holo Summer live
August 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer live
August 31 Holo Summer live

Other
20-21 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)
27-28 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)

>>31159141
maybe, but a far cry from the 50k I was promised

>>31158890
19) holo gold (Noel costume)
20) holo gold (Mio birthday/gen 3 collab noel)
21) ??
22) niji gold (Toya birthday)
23) ??
24) ??
25) holo gold (Holo summer live)
26) niji gold (Koshien 2022 exhibition match)
27) holo gold (gen 3 collab pekora)
28) holo gold (Holo summer live)
29) ??
30) holo gold (Holo summer live)
31) holo/niji gold (Fuwa last morning radio/Holo summer live)

holo summer (stream or premiere)
18 stream, 25 stream, 28 stream, 30 stream, 31 stream

niji noon (guests/performers dependant)
15 - 19, 22 - 26

niji 24 hrs karaoke relay
27 - 28

>>31159103
>>31159153
I did my reps and didn't find shit I'm sorry I'm not a part of your secret club.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1560431354176671744
Gamma...

>>31159158
can kaela get big number for her bday?
considering she's inclining quite a bit lately.

>>31159003
>4x: Pekora
>2x: Kuzuha, Pekora

>>31159141
It really isn't that bad. It averages everyone out to be a 3.1k streamer, which is pretty insane.

>>31159186
Well 50k/12 POVs would mean an average of 4k per POV and getting 4k is like a special day for most of the people in the collab lmao.
Aia would probably pop some champagne if she got a 4k solo stream, let alone overlapping with 11 other people.

>>31158890
i like this kind of OP more than just random anime girl pic.

>>31158890
last year

>AUGUST
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab
3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles
6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX
7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice
9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery
11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals
16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal
17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday
18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke
19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement
20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom
22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament
23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut
24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab
25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match
26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart
27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon
28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut
29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting
30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachi

August 1 - 15
>holo 5
>niji 9

August 16 - 31
>holo 10
>niji 5

total
>Holo: 15
>Nijisanji: 14
>Indie: 2

>>31158804
hololive is losing EN on the long term though?
>only Gura can get +10k average and she doesn't even bother to put schedules anymore, streams only when she feels like doing it
>have to rely on events if they want to boost something (and they barely do any)
>they don't understand how scheduling works and instead each other on the same slot of the day leaving completely open the day after
>barely do group collabs and council doesn't organize events at all (unless you want to count sana's graduation)
>NO ONE trying in EU time
>not a single sliver of consistency
holoID is doing a better job and they are actually catching up to them too
holoEN had the world on their hands and they did NOTHING to keep it
and now the stars are coming for them and the cock-thisty whores are giving everything they can to taste it, they are even cucking their fans on stream like Amelia did the other day

>>31159247
Damn he got the new variant
That thing sucks since it fucks up your throat even longer than delta

>>31159247
meh who cares, covid these days is little worse than the fucking flu, they really should stop making such a big deal of it

>>31158890
i genuinely hope you die bait op poster

>>31158890
Kawaii announced their debuts will be at the end of this month and its 5 girls.

current list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>GezuGezu https://twitter.com/GezuDayo
>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi
>Mai Melody https://twitter.com/MaiMelodyCh
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Kirispica https://twitter.com/kirispicaa
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69

Only write off for being in Kawaii from this group is Fen Riru since her graduation/hiatus is after August 31st and the Kawaii debuts are August 27-28.

Other locations to end up for these girls include
>Tsunderia whos auditions ended around the same time as Kawaiis
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 assuming theyre doing a dual wave like past waves minus Ethyria has gotten
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>idol corp(?) had auds end at the end of July so likelihood for this one might be the least since timeframe is small

>>31159384
your seething gives me life

>>31159276
>>31159295
this
if you average the total views its actually insane how much they inclline

Holoenbox 0 ccv
Nijienbox 32k

>>31159127
Makes sense if you think about it.
If it weren't for Luxiem, we wouldn't talk about NijiEN in these threads except for the occasional Selen 5k stream.

>>31159001
Do nothing and just let NijiEN debut more Iluna tier Waves. At it's current course Council Averages have been going up lately and with EN3 being an eventuality HoloEN is looking to still maintain market dominance since NijiEN is failing to debut a Wave that's not even close to Luxiem's success.

>>31159394
ill start the timeloop this time

holoEN3 is not happening there is literally 0 proof

>>31159332
ogey. keep telling yourself that, man.

>>31158890
Let the seethers seethe

>>31159247
I don't know why this tradition of official press releases for COVID ever got started. Gura had it, and just told her fans she was sick. She even streamed halfway through.

>>31159332
>eu time
lol
lmao

>>31159414
here you might need this

koshien practice week 2 weeks ago

>>31159276
There's 12 of them anon
It's around 2.6k and most of it is the Lux sisters who are not gonna watch anyone else.

Fuck everyone who used this thread
>>31159276
It's 12 POVs so 32k/12 = 2666 person

>>31159420
that's not what a box means you dumbass

>>31159394
eigo jouzu streamer from vee has also graduated

>>31159428
god i fucking wish we never talked about niji en here, luxiemsisters and the braindead indog holofags weirdly obsessed with them absolutely destroyed this thread

>>31159158
I'd lowball with a nice 15k but if EN and Peko/Miko are in the call-ins it can jump to 20k

>>31159420
Well, to be fair, that's a primo fan art. I wasn't even interested in reading /hlgg/ this afternoon and kept clicking on that by reflex.

>>31159519
and now. wtf happened

>>31159332
Engish

this hurts the feelings of the nijisanji people

>>31159481
Nip autism, pls andasutando

>>31159529
If Wave 7 is the Iluna rejects than that average is gonna go down even further.

>>31159276
anon it's a 12 pov collab, not a 10 pov collab. That means averaged out it's only 2.5k a person
And you know what the funny part is? Only 4 people out of the 12 are actually above that average, which means NijiEN is fast following the NijiJP model where there are a couple of people who get good numbers, and then an endless list of shitters who barely scrape 4 views

>>31159555
is there a chance she will end up in a EN corpo or something.

>>31159571
meant for
>>31159253

>>31159357
new variant actually fucks up your voice longer and for a company that does idol reps thats a problem

>>31159612
I wonder how it feels to be waiting in the wings to debut watching Iluna eat shit so hard, so fast.
You just know the boys of the gen are kicking themselves for missing the StarsEN hype train

>>31159658
I keep forgetting that Aia and Yugo are in the collab.

>>31159420
There's a huge collab and the thread is still slower than global with no streams even when it's new and presumably getting ritual posts?

>>31159562
The selenigger was already here long before luxiem debuted, that was inevitable

>>31159678
>china targetting hololive and cover through the virus now

>>31159678
go back to /pol/ with your covid hysteria. it's not 2020 any more.

>>31159659
Yugo did debut in NijiEN so anything is possible

>>31159562
No, what destroyed the thread was this

>>31159584
>>31159519
The nijibots shut down due to lack of payments

I think Niji Noon will get 800k tomorrow. Please make me the OP quote.

>>31159658
That problem only really exists if NijiEN expanded to like 50-60 talents, to the point where it becomes impossible to schedule a male/female together in one slot, since (ideally) they won't cannibalize each other's viewership. As it stands now, most of their livers can get away without streaming for 2-3 days and give an open slot to others

>>31159430
>Do nothing and just let NijiEN debut more Iluna tier Waves
How NijiEN operates has 0 effect on HoloEN anyways if you look at the numbers.
It's not like there's been a new NijiEN wave debut that has stolen numbers from HoloEN. The people watching Luxiem (the bulk of NijiEN's numbers) weren't watching HoloEN to begin with.

I would argue that releasing more iLUMA-tier waves doesn't even hurt NijiEN that much, it just didn't help them much either outside of having more bodies for collabs.
Over the past few weeks, ILUMA has barely affected the rest of NijiEN's numbers so far. Luxiem still gets their lion's share of numbers in overlap because most of iLUMA was dead on arrival.
It's starting to become like NijiJP where new waves don't affect the old guard much, they're just kinda doomed from the start unless they're a superstar.
Like just look at this current collab to see the state of things.

>>31159724
>hysteria
anon just look at nene, shes covid free but she still has coughing fits from time to time

>>31159239
>he doesn't know that "rrats nest" is just a made up thing

>>31158890
/news/ roundup for 18-08-2022
>>31122908
Recent clip numbers
>>31108229
>>31108271
>>31108468
>>31108519

>>31159827
>That problem only really exists if NijiEN expanded to like 50-60 talents
and they will get that by the end of 2023, possibly even sooner considering they already opened auditions for wave 8. I wouldn't be surprised to see 40 nijiENs by the end of 2022

>>31159680
On one hand I could imagine it would be demoralizing seeing those high debut numbers plummet into the Earth's core but on the other Iluna serves as a good lesson of what NOT to do. I understand a streamer wanting to do what they want but they also have to keep in mind that their trying to entertain people so streaming shit that looks boring to watch or listen to should be avoided at all cost.

>>31159735
If someone's eigo is actually jouzo it can work, like Tenma from Phase Connect would probably be a smash hit in a bigger corpo because she's fluent but still very obviously Japanese

there is literally no proof of a NijiEN wave 7 that isnt the Gamers auditions

anons, why does he like feet?

>>31159827
>most of their livers can get away without streaming for 2-3 days
not if they only have sc to rely on as a stable cash flow

>>31159979
because he is actually Gura and she shitposts in numbers whenever she isn't streaming

>>31158890
I would blame not the talents, but the Niji recruiters for allowing them to become Nijilivers. Are they doing their reps? Two chicks are fucking 3-views mainly because they are such awful scouts. Yugo might do better if she had a Kyo avatar since the avatar would just carry her. Aia will not get that numbers if they did not hire her in the first place. Accelerate can be part of why their numbers are awful, but you cannot just excuse bad hiring and avatar fit. Also, lots of early collabs and overlaps.
This is why I can appreciate the efforts of Tempus dudes. They know they may become a flop like Iluna but made an coordinated effort to stay relevant. They may be 4-view shitters, but they developed a dedicated fanbase not for the starsbox but for themselves. They prioritized in developing their floors. And also kudos for their recruiters to actually look for talents who have some sort of niche to cater regardless of how small it is.

>>31159598
what does gold advantage mean? number of golds a month?

>>31159979
feet, you say?

>>31159598
Nijisanji owakon

>>31159973
You're right, it's just a guess based on the light+dark pair gens they've been doing. Lazulight+Obsydia, Luxiem+noctyx, and then Iluna being a "dark" name makes people think it'll be another light gen. Erythria was stand alone though, right, so certainly possible it could be a one-off.

>>31159934
I feel like at this point Nijisanji is just throwing shit at the wall to see if anything sticks, hoping that one of the them is gonna be their Gura

>>31160062
NIGGA LEAVE! PLEASE!!!

>>31160062
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DELETE THIS DELETE THIS DELETE THIS

>>31159934
>English speaking GAMERS
I fucking hate the terminology gamer. It pisses me off for no real discernable reason, maybe because its associated with the braindead of the most braindeads now. I for sure would not fill out for nijien just because of that.

>>31160109
>Erythria was stand alone though
no ethyria was a self pair heaven and underworld

>>31159979
i don't know but i wish he'd make ops again to save us from the bait shit

>>31159934
NTA, but if you look at the current state of NijiEN, what's there to lose with spamming more waves?
90% of the old waves (LOE) have barely budged in numbers over the spam of 8 months to a year. Your only smash hit was Luxiem, which was a hard to recreate miracle. The brand new shiny wave you debuted is already in the bottom half of the company in terms of numbers, they're basically down to their core audiences already.

Might as well keep throwing darts on the board and hope for a star, because track record already shows that apart from blowing up in a new market unintentionally, NijiEN vtubers in general do not really incline over time.

>>31159973
didn't they use a sun emoji along with the moon one while they were promoting iluna?

>>31160113
they already got their gura, it was Luxiem, now they are throwing shit at the wall hoping that they'll get a repeat but all they keep getting is a bunch of duds that dilute the brand even more. Seriously, how the fuck do you get 90k on debut but somehow fail to keep even 9k on your regular streams less than a month out?

>>31160062
This 3D is super, do you happen to have several dozen more pictures of it you could share?

>>31160109
>Ethyria
Ethyria also had theme pairs. I think it was heaven and hell

>>31160113
>hoping one of them is gonna be their Gura?
Every Niji Wave thus far has had their own Gura faggot

Lazulight
>Feesh
Obsydia
>Selen
Ethyria
>Millie + Enna
Luxiem
>Vox
Noctyx
>
ILuna
>Marie

>>31160260
Holy mother of cope

>>31159827
I believe accelerate is not really that much of a problem if their scouts are much more competent than Holopro's. Having over a hundred talents is not a problem if they are unique enough to cater a certain type of audience. Being 3-views is fine if they actually have a strong niche and not just relying on being a waiting room for Luxiem.

>>31160190
They don't incline over time because nijisanji's accelerate model doesn't allow them to incline over time. All their audience is gotten within the first three months of debut because after that point a new shiny wave has dropped and all the attention goes to the new wave. There's no chance for the older livers to solidify and build up their viewerbase over time, they have to either get it on debut, or not at all

>>31160295
holoEN sharts = niji JP shizos
simple as

>>31160295
oh neat my post got screen caped, hoepefully my edited deepl wasnt that bad

>>31160216
Ren actually had 3k (with a funnel) with no overlap yesterday. He was collabing with Finana but she a 3 view that time so it didn't matter

>>31160215
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1549408722446962690
is all i could find in the twitter. and they use both a new and full moon, light and dark in one.

>>31160295
based nip speaks the truth, 2022 holo en fags act exactly like 2020 nijiniggers

>>31160351
I mean they learned from the top holo fanbase which are nousagis

>>31158890
fucking lol, Luxboys and accessories, gotta love it

>>31160357
>3k minecraft collab
grim

>>31160351
>>31160397
This
Nijifans are the real victims here since Hololive fans continue to bully them with edited pictures

>>31160357
yeah, stick a fork in them, iLuna is dead

>>31159834
That's kind of the main issue to me as later down the line once the old guard leaves where does that put NijiEN in the future? HoloEN, ID, and JP at least has standouts in each Gen(for the most part) that could be superstar material under the right circumstances. NijiEN and NijiJP but to a much lesser extent due to Salome are too top heavy towards certain individuals and Waves.

>>31160397
HoloEN faggots are literally worse than Nijiniggers
At least Nijiniggers have a reason to flame the lwhores coming out of the woodwork trying to leech from Nijisanji's success
2022 Holofags are literally making up shit just to send disinformation. Case in point the new Silvervale "interview". If you retards actually watched streams you'd know Silvervale was never interviewed by this "dexerto" in the first place.

>>31160190
I think Niji's business model inherently discourages old waves inclining. Why try to learn the background of existing livers and fit in with their fanbase when you can always get in on the ground floor of a new wave within a few months
You see this clearly in JP, even as the company got more popular some really talented people in earlier waves just got left in the dust

>>31160295
>while fabricating the truth
I hope he means it as in "saying" and not "falsifying".

>>31158890
LMAO
Thx OP you're a fucking hero. We need these kind of OPs from now onwards

Ok, what set off the nijiniggers and falseflaggers this time?

>>31159724
Retard.

>Nijiniggers coping and seething
you love to see it

>>31160305
I mean, that's not really realistic. You could turn that around and say everyone in EN is a waiting room for Gura, which 1. isn't true and 2. still benefits the livers because they're getting exposure and views and may be a "second choice" to watch when someone's "first choice" isn't streaming
What kills your viewership isn't just overlaps, it's overlaps with talents who have similar audience. I guarantee you Mori playing Jump King has very little overlap with Fauna playing Minecraft (less than 300-400), so the viewership difference is "negligible." However, if you have Gura and Fauna playing Minecraft, you now have an overlap of two similar audiences, and Fauna's ccv will take the brunt of the damage

Vox's next stream is going to get 6 gorillion viewers I bet my balls on it, I'm totally a real Niji fan by the way. Please make me the next OP, I really love attention.

>>31160308
>They don't incline over time because nijisanji's accelerate model doesn't allow them to incline over time.
I don't think incline is guaranteed just because of lack of overlap. If you look at the bottom feeders of NijiEN, even if NijiEN was just Lazulight, Finana will never be a 5k avg streamer.
On the other hand, if you're actually kinda good at streaming, you'll incline anyways like Enna, who was a 2k shitter when she debuted to now where she can get 4k solo (I'm not counting those collabs that took her to 6-7k) even after 3 new waves.

I guess my point is, if most of your apples are already rotten, you might as well get more apples.

>>31160305
Keep dreaming, anon.

>>31160501
Honestly agree with you and that based jap anon whoever he is. Hololive are actually the bullies in most of the cases hell you could even argue that the taiwan thing was their fault. Try to insult a country will always be a bad decision that already bit them in the back

>>31160564
nijinigs are always seething. no point in trying to appease them any more.

>>31160501
who is silvervale?

>>31160260
>Feesh
>Millie and Enna
>Marie
Da fuck are these choices? At least use Pomu and Ren for Lazulight and Illuna good lord.

>>31160651
yellow insectoid feelers wrote this post

>>31160295
Falseflagger spreading garbage from here huh? kek

>>31160564
The niji collab showing that it's just Luxiem and friends

All this Nijifag samefagging.

>>31160671
shitting up the thread to own the nijiniggers

>>31160564
Their 12 POVs collab can't bet 2 retards playing solo Rust

>>31160572
I agree with your points in general but the Gura-Fauna overlap scenario in particular is interesting. We just saw them get a combined 30k, 20-10, for Rust. That looks to me like Fauna absorbed a bit of the usual Gura audience, doesn't it? Not a lot, maybe 2-3k

so many lies....

>>31160754
nijinigger trojan horse at it again huh?

>>31160754
the thread will be shit regardless. no point in playing nice with the nogs.

Kinda wish the shitposters could come up with some better material than just describing one company or fanbase while putting the other's name on it in the world's most obvious gaslighting attempt

>>31160807
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>31160754
Honestly this
Theres no point in arguing with nijifans we should just all accept that HoloEN is declining while NijiEN is slowly crawling to the top and move on

>>31160626
If you recruit in a way that makes your barrel look like it's full of rotten apples you're going to get more rotten apples.

>Make exceptionally shitty bait OP
>Have extraordinarily shitty /#/ threads as everyone takes it as a sign to be even more retarded than usual
I hate OP, I hate (You), see you tomorrow!

>>31160564
They're trying to deflect from their deplorable numbers.

>>31160790
2k-3k is a lot of numbers anon, don't let Hololive's success warp the EN Vtuber scene.

>>31159127
They begged for males and this is what they get and deserve.

>>31160869
70k debut btw

>>31160295

>>31160869
AIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIA

>>31160825
Holofags love to gaslight and falseflag as nijifans since they will do anything including lie just to damage their reputation

>>31160910
kek

>>31160910
kek

>>31160910
B A S E D

>>31160295
>JP Holo antis: inflict actual lasting damage to Hololive and the industry at large out of sheer determined spite
>EN Niji antis: say mean things on the internet
These two are not comparable or commutable.

>>31160871
Just because xqc gets 200k CCV every day doesn't mean the Holowhores are not flops

>>31160910
that reply really needs the thumbs up miko image.

>>31160910
>dou de mo ii [runeword] arigato na.

>>31160910

>>31158890
Another bait OP?

>>31160790
What that tells me is Gura not only has the biggest "first choice" audience, she also has the biggest "second choice" audience. People will watch Gura if no one else is streaming, then flock to their oshis once they're online. Doesn't mean that Gura doesn't have an "audience" of 20k+, rather that 2-3k of it are people who'll tune in when their oshis aren't online

Give me one good reason not to make /jp#/ right now, I'm sick to death of EN shitters and their constant Luxiem obsession making this thread unusable

>>31160926
This post is a good example of what I meant, thanks anon

>>31160910

>>31160910
lmao

>>31160564
>nijiniggers
See >>31158890
>falseflaggers
See >>31131145 and https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/silvervale-wants-stream-forever-vshojo-star-finds-purpose-vtubing-1891685/

>>31160948
>inflict actual lasting damage to Hololive a
proof? and hololive probably deserve it anyways

>>31160982
Fauna getting 10k shows that Holofags would literally watch anyone else other than Gura

I see this is the new tactic of the discordniggers. Bait OPs.

>>31160982
I also just remembered that I think Gura's POV had mic problems, so maybe that's not a great example anyway.

>>31160968
>[runeword]
It's 情報 (information).

>>31161026
baffling post

>>31160910
Holy based

funnily enough the thread has actually gotten alot better now that we've swapped over to using these ops

>>31159270
Pekora please let others get gold too you are taking all the gold

>>31160999
HOLY FUCKING COPE.
Just because Luxiem is MOGGING your whores doesn't mean you have to make your own horserace only you could win

>>31160999
There isn't one. Just do it. With kanji and everything.

>>31160950
We are talking about the Vtuber scene tho?

>>31160999
Did you know that you can post any vtuber-related thread you want on this board? It's even free!

>>31161075
anon?

>>31160572
If anything, I would argue that there should always be a minecraft stream overlapping a HoloEN playing something else because there's a "minecraft-only" audience that is underserved whenever no one plays minecraft in NA times.
Those people aren't going to watch Mori play Jump King just because it's the only HoloEN stream available.

>>31160790
Well if you want to be precise, Gura was at 21k when Fauna started and she lost around 1k to Fauna, but by the time Fauna got to 11k, Gura was between 20-21k so she didn't really lose much at all.
They both didn't start dropping until Kaela started 2 hours later.

>no holos streaming
>massive niji collab
>hololive fans would rather sit around bored than watch something interesting in the neighbor's yard

>>31160999
Already tried that and the jannies will delete it on sight

>>31161033
they've tried it before and each time a fresh wave of newfags has to learn the hard way to ignore the bait threads

>>31161152
>watching niji
You literally could not pay me enough to do that

>>31161054
Either way, I'm interested in knowing the absolute floors of every HoloEN/NijiEN. I wonder how you'd test that out. They'd all have to play the same game at the same time, but have no interaction with anyone else. Would be an absolute stress test of the EN audience

>>31161152
>the neighbor's yard
my neighbors don't live in china though.

>>31161152
I would rather watch a vod than watch a fucking nijichink

>>31161022
Aloe, the Holocaust and probably some older incidents I've forgotten. Admittedly it's been somewhat overshadowed by the Taiwan debacle but being only slightly less terrible than NGA chinks isn't something to be proud of.
>and hololive probably deserve it anyways
Irrelevent as to whether the two are comparable or not.

>>31161152
The barrier to entry is too big if you don't know any of the participants

>>31161152
Yes, and what of it?

>>31161102
xqc IS a Vtuber faggot
Why would he be using the Vtuber tag on Twitch is he wasn't, retard

>>31161173
more like the majority of the thread loves the bait threads and what it represents. You and your kinda re in the minority my friend, time to move on

>>31161152
>something interesting

>>31161009
>VShojo
>Free
Yeah that freedom comes with shitting on Hololive eh? You know, the company that gave Vtubing a spotlight in the west? I guess people cant be appreciative of those that have come before. Its like these retards still live in 2020.

>>31161247

>>31161230
Just watch Pomu, can't go wrong

>>31161152
sorry I don't feel like sucking zhang's dick today

>>31161152
I hate big collabs even if I knew who any of those people are, which I don't, beyond recognizing their names from this thread.

Nijibronies seething. I guess it's time for me to ignore them and to go back to numberlusting.
It seems that Fuwa's streams will be consistently high across the month. The guy will be Holo's first hurdle and he will get the golds if basically nothing is happening and the holo first armies are not performing as expected. Holosummer's and Salami's numbers are just unreliable to be called the first hurdles.

>>31161222
>playing without permision
>get reported
dont see how thats anyone else faults beside cover and before you drag aloe into this the bitch deserved it for shit talking another vtuber

>>31161152
Honestly, being a holofag is already taking up enough mental bandwidth nowadays.
I just watched like 5 hours worth of streams. That's not even counting the JP Rust clips I missed yesterday.
Need to take a mental break before watching a few more hours coming up.

>>31161279
nah, fuck off.

>>31161247
She's probably starting to realize that she should have latched onto Vesper.

>>31161292
Yeah, it'll probably go:
>Nijinoon
>Salome
>Fuwa
For ccv, with Fuwa picking up more ccv towards the end of the series

>>31161152
Id rather go watch Pippa.

Ahh, I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

>>31161379
YOOOO 1k Pippa stream!!!!

>>31161259
I'd like to point out that many indies are either neutral or like Holo, even some whore-ish ones. Please don't think VBitches represents the western scene attitude.

>>31160999
Just only read this thread during JP primetime and the 4-5 hours after it
That's when the relevant numbers happen and also when the thread is the least bad

>>31161152
ive been watching some balding fuck on twitch for the last 3 hours not talk and play a driving shitpost game while blasting random music and its probably more entertaining than whatever the fuck niji is shitting out right now

>>31161296
Not going to argue the semantics of blame, the flagging was an organized effort by Holo antis and it did lasting damage, end of story.
>the bitch deserved it
Subjective and also rrelevant.

>>31161406
pics or it didn't happen

>>31161333
>no reason given
>seething white-knuckle hatred for other corporation for no apparent reason
>bored off your ass instead of watching vtubers
>>31161321
cope

>>31161247
I don't get the play, she must realize by now that Magnation isn't going to incline a fujoshi VN player or whatever her content is.
Maybe she just actually likes him and wants him to slip into her DMs

>>31161152
i'm not interested to watch shit, but hey you do you

>>31161152
im not invited to the neighbor's yard tho? the neighbor hates me and wants me dead and tells me i seethe

>>31160999
if you don't like it here you can always go back to /jp/ and suck your fellow nip wannabe's cocks. But you wont because you'd rather seethe here than go to the place where you're welcome

What do they gain from this?

>>31161296
>>31161442
*irrelevant, even

>>31161446
you do know there are vtubers outside of nijien right?

>>31161466
You're discussing numbers instead of watching streams. You're trying to play it cool but the truth is you're some weird fuck.

>>31161477
you can watch whatever you want. There is no boundary. You can pull up whatever stream you wanted

>>31161442
reporting a crime is never wrong
committing one is
no smeantics, simple as

I will never understand the marketing appeal of "We're not like X, that's why YOU should support us instead"
Like if your product was good in the first place, why would you have to compare

>>31161413
Western vtubers that hate Hololive are typically bitter that they can't have access to their box.

>>31161493
Bridging the gap between Stars and NijiEN. Honestly it would be hilarious if Stars collabed with them

>>31161152
When Holos arent on I watch Vinny.

>>31161493
People always shitpost about NijiEN females being accessories for their dudes, but they're out here trying to become accessories for an entire different company's dudes

>>31161518
Right now,, NijiEN is doing the big collab. Which you are all discussing in this thread, but not actually watching. You have no streams to watch

>>31161152
My Brother in Christ, I have like 10 hours of VODs and clips I need to catch up on, the fuck you mean "sit around bored"

>>31161546
anon the entirity of the nijifanbase here is comprised entirely out of people going "Nijisanji is not hololive, therefore we are superior for liking nijisanji", it's actually a surprisingly effective marketing method

>>31161493
Blame Regis for name dropping Millie in a stream.
Fuck the Blue Boy, really.

>>31161413
I think what some of them see as a negative about Hololive is about it being too corporate. They do not realize the importance of restrictions and moderation.

>>31161589
i watched fauna, then nene, now tsuna i have plenty to watch

>>31161152
you're joking right. no one man can possibly consume one generation let alone all of hololive. even as a NEET, I can only watch so much hololive while leaving time for my other interests like practicing reading Japanese, video games, music etc

>>31161589
nijibeg

>>31161491
Kill yourself, enshart.

>>31161546
It's the vtuber equivalent of the marketing adage that everyone knew Coke was still #1 because they never talked about Pepsi

>>31161152
I do my nihongo reps when i don't watch streams what are (you) doing?

>>31161648
the absolute cope

>>31161657
Eop board, Eop thread, seethe about it

>>31161589
>You have no streams to watch
>What are VOD reps?
Sad your chuubas don't have VODs worth catching up on

>>31161546
Some people don't want to think of themselves as followers who like the most popular stuff. They want to be cool rebels who like the underdog product. Thus we have people who define themselves by liking Nijisanji because it's not Hololive, just like I have dorky relatives who define themselves by their Android phone to stick it to Apple normies.

>>31161579
kek

>>31161675
nijiseethe

>>31161688
You niggers ruined this thread.

>>31161589
Talk about it on the Niji thread then

>>31161694
>watching non-live content
no thanks

>>31161087
Reading comprehension reps?

>>31161589
I'm not watching that dumpster fire.

>>31161637
>They do not realize the importance of restrictions and moderation
I've seen some indies make points against it. But they also say it depends on what expectations (You) have as a vtuber, and that you aren't browbeat into a corpo, you willingly choose it because you think the pros outweigh the cons.

>>31161741
once again /jp/ is over there, you can seethe over there with your fellow 2 cool 4 u kids whenever you want

>>31161152
I am beginning to suspect NijiEN fags have no life outside of watching streams and can't conceive that people could be doing anything else with their lives.

>>31161493
Those useless, bountiful twitter likes

I need someone to explain what exactly went wrong with Aia without regressing to the usual /vt/ fixation on "she made woke tweets before debut."

What has she done as a streamer to so completely eviscerate her channel's audience? I didn't expect any channel in the current climate of HoloEN or NijiEN to be able to fall to a 3view in such a short time from debut even if they ACTIVELY attempted to.

>>31161350
How? Vesper is kinda like Gura. He doesn't touch twitter like at all except when he takes jab at the boys.

New max for the collab is around 34.5k. Still pretty damn impressive

>>31161741
Why are you seething about EN stream discussion during EN primetime? Come back in 7 hours, everyone will be talking about JP streams. Dumbass.

>>31161493
I like Millie, despite her being under Nijisanji and probably a Holoreject. Fuck the haters.
Wait, did Millie just liked her own post? kek. It's probably a Twitter thing.

>>31161711
hey that's not fair, I use android because I don't need to fuss around with itunes and set up whatever proprietary shit they have on there when I want to transfer music over, also transfering files is just a simple click and drag rather than some invovled process involving multiple proprietary apple programs

>>31161824
No idea, her debut turned me off from her and I haven't seen her.
Can anyone that hateviews her answer this?

>>31161534
Still not relevant to the subject, I'm afraid.

>>31161532
and?

>>31161824
she made woke tweets before debut+she made the luxiem sisters mad by shipping scarle and milord
she also doesnt have any talent nor is she entertaining

>>31161824
you say that like any of us here actually watched her beyond her debut and her charts

>>31161675
I forbid you to use English from now on

>>31161824
The reason she's a 3view is because:
>Not that interesting compared to her fellow wave mates
>There's already a low ceiling for girls in NijiEN
>COUGH COUGH COUGH

>>31161832
In fact he forgot to tweet his stream again and Astel tweeted it instead

>>31161841
Wow, not even HoloEN has a 35k box anymore
GO NIJI GO

>>31161824
Apparently she is just boring and uninteresting, plus the nijidoxx already know she's in for the niji buff so they aren't going to get their views

Nijienbox = pekora kusogame numbers

>>31161842
Because globalfags like to respond to bait, and have the mental maturity of a 5 years old kid.

>>31161846
I'm assuming liked by author means Regis liked her tweet.

>>31161842
jpniggers are like vegans, they literally cannot stop talking about how superior they are for sucking so much nip cock they think they are japanese

>>31161741
Nah, you schizos moving over here from /jp/ made /#/ far shittier starting last september.

>>31161841
Unless it's 50k, I don't care

>>31158923
SILVER
>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*
>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers
>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden
>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE
>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game
>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2
>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal
>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE
>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz
>14) 81,664: Botan (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live
>15) 35,336: Noel (Hololive) RUST
>16) 33,850: Pekora (Hololive) Cult of the Lamb
>17) 39,079: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 8
>18) 41,222: Miko (Hololive) RUST


> PER COMPANY
4x: Nijisanji
14x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Hololive
1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Fuwa, Subaru, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy, Botan, Noel, Miko, Salome

2 more silver

>yet another regis video privated
does that cause the algorithim to fuck you over
is that one of the reasons why blue boy isnt doing so hot

>>31161493
Also, It really makes me baffle
>No Unity thread before Tempus
>Tempus debut
>Suddenly one fag keeps spamming unity thread
It seems that Tempus give these Nijibeggars a new tactic to shill their oshis even more

>>31161854
Hey man, I was talking about people who make their Android phone a self-identity because they hate Apple. If that's not you, no need to get defensive, right? Just like normal Nijisanji fans can watch their streams without obsessively raving about Holobronies or stealth advertising on the Hololive subreddit.

>>31161885
I havent but i have friends who have and said that she just boring and brings nothing new to the table
Also that tweet did turn a lot of people off

>>31161546
True. Iike holoID and tempus, and never ever i want to watch any niji, however much they shill them.

>>31161900
That's part of the ritual posting of mans where they call out if he tweeted his stream or not since he often forget about it. It's like how we have Enna poster here betting his balls on Nowa 5k

>>31158923
BRONZE
>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration
>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*
>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien
>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k
>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit
>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic
>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) [some game she made in highschool]
>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien
>14) 44,047: Pekora (Hololive) RUST
>15) 29,882: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>16) 33,264: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiNoon
>17) 33,446: Suisei (Hololive) RUST
>18) 32,197: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer #4


> PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
3x: Nijisanji
2x: Shiina, Marine, Pekora
1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Fuwa, Miko, Suisei, Hololive

Tallyanon's precedent shall be followed except when it's about Flare

>>31161979
>you schizos
Retard.

How many tonight?

>>31161882
>>31161898
>>31161905
If just being boring was the primary reason, we'd be seeing a lot more dropoff for a lot more streamers than her. I also struggle to believe that a Luxiem-specific audience would have been watching her en masse in the first place or have made up such a significant portion of her viewership that them leaving her would drop her to 3-view status.

Is this the seething about jp thread now?

I can't keep up with the seething meta...

>>31162081
NA hours are the worst hours

>>31161930
>Looks at the thread at all hours
Buddy, that's a /vt/ problem, not just global.

>>31162081
It's the "hide 70% of the posts" thread.

>>31162073
I'm going to be conservative and say 80k

>>31162076
Anon she's so boring that regular niji watchers dont find her interesting and would rather watch finana or petra than her

>>31161152
I come to Hololive because I got bored of anything outside of it

>NijiIN
>NijiEN
>NijiCN
At least they keep the N in "Nigger" consistent

>>31162014
Don't blame the algo, it's just the male+fag-voice+No-BFE+Shitty-Games debuff.

Bae is streaming Nintendo Sports. Why isn't she streaming Rust? Has she talked about why she isn't streaming Rust? It should probably be illegal for a Holo not to stream Rust right now.

>>31162014
>is that one of the reasons why blue boy isnt doing so hot
Naw it's because he streams his morning stream in a timeslot where his already small fanbase can't really watch and he streams games that filters people.
Vesper getting 5k with stuff like Zomboid and FTL is not normal.

>>31161824
she does not have an entertainer's personality. she's like an early 2010s 1k views let's player combined with being raised on tumblr to make it even worse

>>31162076
>we'd be seeing a lot more dropoff for a lot more streamers than her.
thats the thing even in the nijisphere she's that bad

>>31162016
>No Unity thread before Tempus
It existed though. But just EN males aka Luxiem, Noctyx and Tempus. It did not last long though.

>>31162175
potato PC, even some members who have 3070s can't handle it + their model at the same time very well

>>31162073
God I wish I was a lord riding into a small village where Noel was the bar wench...

>>31160916
She's literally called AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

we should have seen this coming.

>>31162081
this thread just seethes at everything all the time, it's boring as fuck

>>31162073
50-60k
not gonna overestimate like towa or aqua

>>31162175
At least Bae is aware Rust is being played.
Didn't Kronii say in the collab today that she didn't even know every other Holo is playing Rust right now?
Like how checked out are you to not know that half the JPs and EN are playing it.

>>31162028
>normal Nijisanji fans can watch their streams without obsessively raving about Holobronies
Based on the rants I've seen posted in the NijiEN general and elsewhere without anyone telling them to fuck off or take meds, those normal fans either don't exist or are happy to be surrounded by schizos

>>31162175
>>31162254
Liar
Her PC can stream fucking Cyberpunk

>>31162165
https://youtu.be/-XhuaqOW3Xk
>No bfe content
Yes he has. But he does it at random

>>31162288
You have to learn to automatically filter the shitposts mentally. I don't even see them unless they're particularly funny, I just skip right over subconsciously. Once you learn this skill this thread is pretty good.

>>31162310
Kronii is too busy chasing icecream trucks

>>31162073
Probably in the ballpark of 50k - 80k. I really have no idea about the JPs or if the outfit reveal has even been hyped up

>>31162329
Bae is a retard who thought that you needed a higher spec to play rust than cyberpunk

>>31162165
>>31162195
oh ok. was wondering if privating videos would screw him over. thats one less factor to worry about then. thanks.

>>31161824
From my point of view as a person giving her a chance is that she just didn't give a good first impression. Alongside her coughing and boring interests, I'm not surprised by her viewership. First impressions mean a lot and she fumbled it badly. I still find the design cute as fuck though.

>>31162346
That's just Cello stream and he had to cut it because muh perms.

>>31162165
no he's just boring, Zelda + gungeon + cult of lamb + hunt showdown is far above the average ENtubers taste in games

Can exnijiID ever incline as a whole?

>>31161152
i have vod backlog lol

>>31161824
She's been coughing into her mic for weeks now for starters.

>>31162361
Yeah took me a while but now it's pretty decent, specially in JP hours.

>>31162329
I'm just repeating what I heard, it's not my fault if reasons implied are the result of poor tech advice given to the girls

>>31162329
'cause Bae is a dumb who doesn't bother to even try to see if she can run it.

>>31162320
Some NijiJP fans are pretty decent here. Some Lize fans go here during the Koshien thing, and despite the Holofags baiting, they did not bite.

>>31162470
didn't she stop recently

>>31162445
Anything *can* happen but it seems very unlikely.

>>31162361
This is so true.
Sometimes people will be complaining about thread quality, and I don't notice anything wrong eventho half the thread is shitposts.
Other times tho, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

>>31162448
you're not watching shit

>>31161152
like ive said a couple of times when you asked this
tried watching them but got filtered since they act like regular streamers with anime avatars

>>31158890
>even the weakest Tempus can now Mag even Ren
OH NO NO NONONO

so... have they broken 50k yet? too lazy to check vrabi

>>31162439
Zelda and gungeon are debuff games the hell you are talking about? But I do agree that he does come of as boring when he tries too hard to be funny.

>>31162445
Having "ex" in front of your branch name is a death sentence
They're never getting more waves or mercy, they're just waiting for them to graduate

>>31161152
I quite literally hate nijisanji for what they've done to luna

>>31161152
Guaranteed (You)s

>>31162320
>>31162516
I don't watch niji but it's also important to understand that most fans just watch streams clips and vods and don't bother talking about vtubers in discussion fkrums online

>>31162445
They need support from EN. SEA and EN have relatively significant overlap, especially since a decent amount of SEA can speak English. I've already seen some NijiEN collabing with ID, so that's a good start. Unfortunately, that help only goes so far. The audiences for a ton of NijiEN just aren't the same as those of NijiID. Kaela benefits a shit ton from EN, literally any Minecraft stream she has with over 9k audience probably has 1-2k from NA

>>31162516
I don't have any problem with actual Niji JP fans it's just that they're quite rare, and this place is just filled with shitposters that could care less about the people they're baiting with, or overly defensive luxiem discord raiders.

>Apex VOD made private
So what’s getting cut out? The NTR talk of the healslut comment.

>>31162592
no they're really good games, though TP is one of the worst ones it's still good

>>31162666
if they end up calling the podcast National Tempus Radio then it's gonna be only the healslut part

>>31162703
How much of a newfag are you?
Good game =/= good streaming game for numbers

>>31162666
I honestly think both.

>>31162703
Good to play, bad to watch

>>31162703
Being good games does NOT mean they aren't debuffs for streaming.

>>31162666
StarsJP already talked about NTR and they didn't get shit so I suppose the Healslut one.

Damn, Alban's gonna get an amazing funnel. Interestingly enough, the overall viewership for NijiEN only went up ~1k when he started. A lot of people in the collab dipped as soon as he started up

>>31162516
Oh I'm solely talking about EN. The handful of NijiJP fans stay in their thread and gatekeep

>>31162073
If Pekora funnels for her, easy 100k.

>>31162537
If she just only now recently stopped than that doesn't really detract from the fact that her first few weeks were partly crippled due to her being too sick.

>>31162666
Disappointing considering those moments are the only really clippable moments for Regis today.

>>31162398
Noel outfits are a buff for two big, huge, gigantic reasons

>>31162516
Nijifans are decent. Most of the shitposting is done by holofags in order to false flag and damage nijisanjis reputation here

>>31162807
If he doesn't get at least 6k from funnel Nijibox doesn't exist

Does 5ch know about Silvervale's yab?

>31161152
catching up on some of the rust streams from last night before matsuri starts

>>31162832
I completely forgot about the Peko funnel. Yeah, that's gonna be some retarded number for an outfit reveal if she ends right when Noel starts, especially if she redirects or just vocally says, "Noel has an outfit reveal, go watch it" sometime during her stream. If you get even 25% of the chat to spill over, that's an extra 10k

>>31162795
>>31162794
>>31162780
I believe

>>31162666
The NTR talk was fine, the healslut remark was some Niji tier shit.

>>31162950
>5ch
>Give a shit about Silvervale
???

Aia is really, really fucking annoying

>>31162991
>Toxic gaming term is niji patented stuff???

>>31162921
Let's be honest, he's playing complete garbage, it's not impossible people just don't want to watch that. If Holo EN ended a big collab and Mori started playing idk, Valhalla bartender game would you expect 6k?

>>31162979
I mean, for Regis to succeed he'd basically have to carve a niche out for himself, do it so much better than everyone else that he's the "go-to guy" for that niche, and incline from there. It's not impossible, it's just incredibly difficult. It helps that he already has some guaranteed viewership in Hololive, but it's still going to be a FUCK ton of work and luck to incline even to a 3k average

>>31163054
Yeah since theyre the only big corpo that uses twitch style streaming

>>31163039
Why are you watching Aia? I'm a Pomudachi and I won't even watch those big clusterfuck collabs.

>Mumei overlapping Mori/Magni drawing stream
Who wins the view war? Mumei in last?

>>31163054
it's not "toxic gamer" jargon, they're referencing an actual fetish you'll occasionally come across if you play shitty games like overwatch and ffxiv the existence of which is so funny that people like to joke about it sometimes

>>31163113
What the fuck are you talking about

>>31162950
Does your whore mother know about her loser son's posts?

>>31162993
They don't know Silver, but they know that Nazuna and Kson are in Vshojo

>>31163097
Minecraft is the last hope.
I wonder if playing roguelites in the morning will end up paying off too. It's a filter for most viewers, but if you appeal to a niche, it's a demo he can attract.

NijiEN is Kaela'ing themselves into relevancy while HoloEN is doing the bare minimum. The result is Nijinigs mocking HoloEN. HoloEN needs correction by implementing some ACCELERATE. Gotta scare those lazy ass or be abandoned for being lazy. EN3 doko?
Btw, Maria reclined hard. Is it because of the bf thing?

>>31163214
Man those two in vshojo is a really big blow to hololive especially when they were their top streamers

>>31162914
Anon it's been established multiple times that holofags watch and enjoy more NijiJP than NijiEN fans
Not even just here, you can look at the chat overlap for things like Salome's streams or Lain's 3D and see 3-4x as much HoloEN overlap as NijiEN

>>31163210
Calm down, Silverwhore

>>31163143
Mumei talk stream, don't expect much from it. Maybe hits 5k.

>>31163193
>Healslut is an actual fetish
Say sike right know

>>31163097
He just need that
>[unarchived] Playing the cello just for You
And he'll be good

>>31163214
Didn't Haachama think Silverware was Nyanners? It's possible she was just fucking around but it's still funny.

>>31163291
>NijiEN is Kaela'ing themselves into relevancy
that only works if they have a gura in the algo

>There are people ITT who doesn't know what a healslut is

All of NijiEN is about to get mogged by a rat, lmao

>>31163326
I'm serious lol, there are entire RP communities around it where people hook up to play as tank and Healer together while jerking off in VC and burdening the rest of their team

>>31163300
I would agree with you if Cover depended on akasupa's money

god i love NA hours

>>31163326
>being used is a fetish
yes, a pretty common one

Nobody here knows what Healslut means.

>>31163291
Ignoring the rest of your shitpost, Maria's main hours are dead ass in the middle of the night. There's where her audience is, 4-5 hours from when the collab was.

>>31163377
It'll be good enough for 4-5k maybe, but don't forget he only got 6k for an unarchived karaoke.
Regis's ceiling is super low.
That being said, he should take every 4-5k he can get. Luna was getting crap game numbers but her Electone numbers kept her afloat in between MH seasons.

>>31163399
>Bae
>mogging anyone let alone NijiEN
Dream fucking on retard

>>31163399
>20min and still hasnt started playing
Bae...

>>31163326
Anon....
It's basically a subset of Sub/Dom overlayed into vidya....

>>31163396
Speaking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE&t=2s