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>Next planned vote (to be started on Friday/Saturday)
>>31061346 and also >>31115704, with /2434/rep's case for it: >>31116083

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/b5gex (most recent)
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

>CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts
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>Special
The roster result for out /vtl/ team came out, see here: >>30042825
Music for the medals are also decided: >>30323043
Polls for the team anthem is currently ongoing: >>31093373
Submissions for your vocaroo in the WAR chant and billboards (must be 512x96 or 1024x196) are still ongoing.
Team Caretaker Trip Code: !p84LALNCrk

Last but not least, an anon stepped up and wanted to do a quick tourist's guide for the various nations of Vitubia! >>29911443
If you are up for it please submit a short text that introduces your nation by replying to this post.
More details in the rentry below.
https://rentry.org/ziuog

>Anchor post for the chuubanite concept.

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Current Concept: https://rentry.org/chuubanite (CIP)

Official Chuubanite Concept Concept: https://youtu.be/V83JR2IoI8k (embed)

>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them!
Also suggest names for them!

>>31128837
>art where the girls act mean and ebil like it's a pretentious villain group
Who gets off to this shit?

>>31128726
POAL VOTE FOR 2343 AZORES ISLANDS IN PIC RELATED LOCATION

Alice's argument:
>>31116083

The Poal:
http://poal.me/cen5rl

Voting closes on 23:00 Greenwich mean time (+00:00 GMT)

https://rentry.org/21stofAugust
Once again, poasting this for naval and lore chads

>>31129442
>poalme
Cant we vote as reps?

>>31129442
Wait I thought it's getting included in the weekend vote?

>>31129320
me. I get off to it.

>>31129442
As per tradition here's my oshis trash compacter ass to catch attention and show good faith.

>>31128980
Chronobanks already ships milk from Infinitum, but that milk isnt supposed to be turned to anything really.

I'm bad at coming up with names, the only ones that come to my mind right now would be

Gosling Foods Co. (A general foods company)

And a specific type of cheese, Watamanchego, made from a very specific source of milk.

>>31129320
its cute

>>31129513
I decided to pick poal since falseflagging from anons as people who don't use trips has been a repeat issue in thread which makes me believe that poal is probably the safer option, however if the poal results look like they've been tampered then I'll switch to voting as reps instead.

>>31129526
I'm going to be busy on Friday so I decided to start the voting today. I disclosed last thread and no one seemed to have an issue with it then but if it turns out to REALLY be that dangerous a break from norm I'm happy to have some one else put up the vote in my stead on friday.

>>31129695
Baskin Brosnans?

>>31130093
Thats a great one

>>31129984
Personally I think it's better to be included in the weekend vote even if the list of issues is the longest we've had yet. Poal is also not very reliable. Some other anon can handle the tallying.

>>31130130
alright. I'll step down then and let some one else handle this then, as long as the three options remain the same.

>>31129442
I don't really see a reason against it, but man, the Nijireps have to stop pushing the narrative that they are the victims of their own redesign of the map that shrunk /ahoy/'s land significantly.

>>31130437
no one said that. come one man.

Have any anons here got to see a chuuba go from 0 viewers to 100 or so?

>>31130437
>Nijireps have to stop pushing the narrative that they are the victims of their own redesign of the map that shrunk /ahoy/'s land significantly.
I really do not see where you find this narrative at all in what was said this or last thread.

>>31130437
Am I pushing that narrative!!!????

>>31130130
Good thing is most of the points have been discussed.

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>>31130777
No, i didnt either nor did any other nijirep here, or even any poster. I merely mentioned idk that i could have an island.

Since No one commented on this last thread, I once again will ask what you think of V7 thus far.https://rentry.org/Senatus-Civitas-Zetanus

>>31129442
What about the nasfaqg island in >>31117840 ?

Gonna update the proposed votes as per some of the discussion going on. Please link this post in the next vote anchor, or a subsequent vote post.

Proposed votes for the 2022-08-20 /vtwbg/ vote (DO NOT REPLY YOUR VOTE TO THIS POST)
>1. Where should /mans/ be placed? Choose your most preferred option from pic related.
>2. Should the current bakatare territory have land removed to place /v7/ and /mhm/ as in pic related.
>3. Should the current date be moved up to 1130?
>4. Propose possible locations for /cope/
Updates to the Bylaws:
>5. Annul Item 9, as the rushia wasteland has been decided to be the mikeneko/nazuna/rushia thread through vote.
>6. Add the following item to the bylaws:
>> New thread representatives for generals that do not have borders should wait until those borders are decided through an official vote before writing lore which assumes a specific set of borders.
>>Upon a new thread joining the project, a vote to select the country's location should be held during the next voting session that is at least seven days from the date of beginning participation in the project.
>7. Add the following item to the bylaws, applicable from its introduction onwards, but not retroactively.
>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project two weeks or more.
Ocean votes:
>8. Do you approve "Ailivian Ocean" as the name of the ocean located East of GGG continent and west of Risu?
>9. Do you approve "Heavenly Ocean" as the name of the ocean located West of the Indie continent and East of Risu?
>10. Do you approve "Yamato Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the North Pole?
>11. Do you approve "Maximus Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the South Pole?
>12. Do you approve the naming of the ocean between Indeia and the Holo Continent as the Kizuna Ocean.
One more Bylaw proposal
>13. All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time but it is a must for voting.

Please do reply with proposals for updates and improvement to the bylaws and the voting options.
>>31128726

>>31131206
Ignore my laziness with the map since this has been worked out.

>>31131045
I propose we wait on this, solely for the purposes of there is too much already.

>>31131206
There, its all good. I will rework the wording of the vote as well.

>>31131390
I think these sort of island additions and so on should be all done with the same vote (exception being the mans-wah thingy)

>>31131513
Well, make your case like Alice did and I will add it to the big vote

>>31131675
no... if we are doing it at once, i can wait.

Also going to flat out ask, is there any desire to add /cope/ on the map. I think /nasa/ should be turned into a schizo wasteland for the time being.

I would like to give an opinion regarding the island for alice later when i am home from work

Not because i am against alice havingvthe island but the sentiment that this should be a one time deal just for /2434/ and would rather have the vote changed to a mire general vote about if nations overall are fine to request islands ir not

>>31131206
Think we can get rid of option C on the Bakatare vote as it has no support that I know of. Mans probably can be reduced to "Do you approve of the new island for mans at pic related"

>>31131947
I am tempted to make that the only vote about an island that isn't mans this week because Alice said she can wait.

>>31132044
sounds good to me

>>31113148
it's also worth mentioning that we never asked for that territory, or any of the territory we were given. we got that land to be "contained", but it ended up backfiring massively. sorry for late reply.

Proposed votes for the 2022-08-20 /vtwbg/ vote (DO NOT REPLY YOUR VOTE TO THIS POST)
>1. Where should /mans/ be placed? Choose your most preferred option from pic related.
>2. Should the current bakatare territory have land removed to place /v7/ and /mhm/ as in pic related.
>3. Should the current date be moved up to 1130?
>4. Should nations be allowed to ask for islands in map 3.0. What justifications should there be for this?
Updates to the Bylaws:
>5. Annul Item 9, as the rushia wasteland has been decided to be the mikeneko/nazuna/rushia thread through vote.
>6. Add the following item to the bylaws:
>> New thread representatives for generals that do not have borders should wait until those borders are decided through an official vote before writing lore which assumes a specific set of borders.
>>Upon a new thread joining the project, a vote to select the country's location should be held during the next voting session that is at least seven days from the date of beginning participation in the project.
>>All reps must have a tripcode if they want to vote. They do not have to use it all of the time but it is a must for voting.
>7. Add the following item to the bylaws, applicable from its introduction onwards, but not retroactively.
>>New thread representatives may vote in voting sessions once they have been participating in the project for two weeks or more. (One week or more is considered as well.)
Ocean votes (Pic Related):
>8. Do you approve "Ailivian Ocean" as the name of the ocean located East of GGG continent and west of Risu?
>9. Do you approve of "Heavenly Ocean" as the name of the ocean located West of the Indie continent and East of Risu?
>10. Do you approve of "Yamato Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the North Pole?
>11. Do you approve of "Maximus Ocean" as the name of the ocean located near the South Pole?
>12. Do you approve”Kizuna Ocean '' as the name of the ocean located between Indeia and the Holo Continent.

If someone wants the Cope vote, I will restore it but I don't think many actually seem to care.

>>31132445
Now, I am of the opinion that We should get rid of option B for Mans and Option C for v7/mhm because of lack of support.

/meat/ can run a side business that deals with the Baskin Brosnan cows after they go dry, kept very secretive of course, Ryona Roadhouse maybe?

>>31132445
can we get rid of the term ocean and just call them sea?

>>31132711
No, one of the things not understood is that a Sea can be part of an Ocean. You can call them that in your lore but this is for meta talk.

>>31132711
Ocean is the correct term though.
>>31132535
I agree with you.

>>31132711
Oceans are divided into seas. Oceans should be divided between east and west hemisphere.

Think I should clarify something
>All Waters of the World that are connected to the World's Oceans are part of the oceans. (rivers not included)
>Seas are sections of Oceans
>A sea can be a section of a larger Sea.

>>31132535
There has been support for option C of the mhm/v7 vote

>>31118447
Sorry, I've been touching grass a bit and watching streams. I'm around now if there's something on your heart.
>>31132445
There's still the question of if the island should be to the west like that, or to the south like mapanon first made it look like, but I guess that matters less and can be adjust after the vote.

>>31132904
What do you mean divided between east and west?

>>31132445
>>31132535
100% agree on removing those options and getting rid of Cope. I propose Nasa is a schizo wasteland for the time being.

>>31132990
I am of the opinion that if it is new land, it doesn't matter exactly where it is. That being said, we have to vote regardless.
>>31132981
There has?

>>31132904
Its a good thing you no longer have voting rights. You are the kingest of geography retards.

>>31133034
>>31133204
So I forgot the other oceans. My bad.

>>31133042
Noted but I want to hear it more. Should Nasa be turned into a schizo wasteland given the lore?

>>31133318
yes. as cope was rejected there.

>>31133318
Schizo wasteland as per lore
Perhaps in the future if the area gets assigned to some thread, they could write some kino lore about reclaiming the area.

>>31133318
Unless we get a writer for /cope/ that wants the territory then do as you wish. I have no interest for writing for /cope/. So I don't care where /cope/ goes.

>>31133466
What I was thinking too. Noted and I think I should add this.

Did we agree on the number of continents?
There are:
>Holo
>Neutral Niji
>Fetish
>Indiea
>Infinity
Infinity is a good example of Australia in this world FYI.
in my opinion.

>>31133677
I've always been of that opinion so I agree.
I will continue to call Infinitum an Island though but thats only because it rhymes better.

>>31133677
do we need to vote on this? I don't think so since there will be a disagreement about Indiea in particular.
>>31133831
we can get to names another time, i don't think this concept needs a vote honestly.

>>31133831
It is an island anyways, just want to make sure for a future continent name vote we have things clear.
>>31133906
No. Whether or not Indiea is 5 or 6 doesn't matter honestly.

>>31133677
agreed. there is only one indeia. holos and nijis can fight on the continental divide but that doesn't matter really.

Continents are basically divided arbitrarily anyway if RL is of any indication (see America vs Americas)

>>31133677
Yes. I agree. No need to vote.

>>31133677
Well there is the argument to be made that the indie continent is technically 2 continents kind of like North and South Americas.

>>31134232
>>31134245
True, but hinestly this is just so we all agree before we touch their names later.

Alice, great story. Same to deadbeat bro

>>31132445
Also wanted to say this. I support option a for mans and b for mhm/v7, agree on the ocean names but also want to raise the point that not being able to vote for 2 weeks is too long. Many anons get settled in a week from what i have seen

>>31134245
Nijis and holos can see it how they want but as a nation on Corpo-Liberal i will not accept our unity be ripped apart

>>31134638
Well I said that you are one.

>>31134621
100% felt that was too harsh myself.

>>31134638
Its not about unity, or anything meta-level, its about geography and tectonics

>>31134621
first of all, it is not like there are votes happenign each week.

second of all, while this might seem harsh, these votes are to decide long lasting decisions for the thread and while luckily most people recently seem to have been very committed, we also have had cases like the ehe~ rep or ggg rep that seemed enthuastic at first but then quickly vanished again.

also please remember that even with soemthing having been voted on, there is always the option to appeal for a revote later on.

>>31136459
What about one week if good bit of lore is done?

>>31134621
I think two weeks is fine, thats not that long a period

Interesting to see tempus and nijien chatting a lot on twitter.

also this may be a bad time to put this forward but last thread Me, Cunt, and Moriji came up with the idea of breaking up loreless nations that don't currently have reps into provinces that can later be claimed by reps for threads when they arrive and start writing lore.

See:
>>31095229
>>31106859
>>31107105

I think this could resolve a lot of the issue we're having now, and could prevent this sort of conflict about new reps/threads entering the world, and could be worth doing. I'd be willing to do the splitting process myself if needed

>>31136858
Lets sit on this one till next voting session, as we have a lot to vote on.

>>31136858
I do like the idea, I really like the idea a lot.

However, Panin is kinda right, we already have a lot to vote on. Perhaps you or someone else should make a tentatie provinces map so we could see what it looks like before deciding?

>>31128599
Watamelon trip. See everyone tomorrow

alright i am home so here is my thoughts and argument regarding the island thing:

first of all i want to make it clear i personally have no issue with /2434/ having some further out islands at all, if anything the possibility for such things excite me since i myself would have something i previously scrapped that could be revived if such things exist.

however, and in partly for the last part just mentioned(i want to be transparent about my own desires here upfront), i do not liek the sentiment that this will be done for jsut /2434/ and then forbidden from there on out for other nations.

for those others that brought the /ahoy/ thing into this: that should have no impact on anything for the future whatsoever. the change of border was agreed upon by voting, including alice.
First, it was not requested by anyone in the thread at all and was done due to miscommunication with Panon(the usual problem, not his fault) and the thread worked with Panon to make it a thing that all could agree upon.
Second, with this change /ahoy/ lost land they had previously and to appease some people that had reservations about it, alice offered her island in return. While this was admirable, giving compensation for compensation after the fact would set some bad precedent for the future. It can create a mindset whereas nations will feel entitled to new islands when they gave land to new threads.

As for alice arguments herself, i think those are fine and furthering decisions that breed creativity is something i think is a good thing. but ultimately it comes down to her personal desires. it is not a necessity to have these islands. Other nations, regardless which ones or how their naval setup is, should be able to just as well have this tool for creativity and if they make a fine case for themselves to request for an island.

therefore i think the vote we have should be about if any nation at all is allowed to make requests or not about newly made islands. and if there is a case against it then it should be the /mans/-/wah/ situation where the new island was made to solve a huge problem the best way possible and was in that regard a necessity and any nations that want it for personal stuff themselves should be treated the same.

of course each case should be seen on itself as for what the request is, the request of alcie for example should be seen differently from one i would make or if some other nation would want an /inf/ sized island because "why not?"

before we vote at all however, and if that has happened already and i missed it i am sorry to brign this up. We should actually ask for the viepoint of the mapanon and climate anon, ocean current anon ect. since they are the ones doing the heavy lifting for this and new requests could mess with their hard work they have done and i feel before any desires of our own we should respect the work they have done for us so far and should respect if they themselves are fine with this or not.

>>31137431
We decided to wait for the islands next time at least, i have what u wanted in my updates voting thing

Alright, I haven't had a chance to catch up to all the discussion last thread, but it seems like there has been some developments. I'll go through and see what I missed in a moment, so sorry if some of my comments are repetitive or don't make sense due to lack of context.
>>31129442
Not sure how official this was meant to be but the bylaws clearly state that poal links are not to be used for official decision-making. We tried that for the first issues like infinity and the results seemed to be tampered with. Poal being unreliable is why we use the current voting system.
>>31132445
>>31132535
There is no reason to remove options due to a perceived lack of support. If people don't like them they won't vote for them, but why deny them the ability to vote for it if they want? That seems completely unnecessary.
>>31136858
Regarding removing loreless nations, I'm not in favor of it. It feels like we would be taking a huge step backwards and it would make the map look empty and boring. I can't speak for others, but I do think about where other nations are when considering what direction to take my worldbuilding, even if they aren't active yet. Having so much uncertainty about the majority of the world seems like it would have a negative effect for people working on the project. There could also be concerns about about certain land being seen as more valuable than others. If a new nation decides they want to border X because they seem like a fun worldbuilding partner and then Y comes along a month later also wanting to border X because their threads have a lot of cultural overlap, then suddenly Y might be unable to get a spot that makes sense for their country because all the land near X has been claimed. A first come first serve approach doesn't make sense to me here because the last third of the nations that show up will have very limited options that may not work for them. That's why everything should be placed wholesale so that everyone is guaranteed a reasonable location.
With the new island thing, I don't think we should be bending over backwards so much to give everyone precisely what they want. Interesting worldbuilding often results from less-than-ideal circumstances, like how /rose/ was placed in a frozen tundra and the rep had to find ways to work around that. All this stuff with adding land masses and changing climates to perfectly suit new reps feels like the wrong way to go about it to me at least. I would rather see people accept the territory they're given and work with what they have rather than request whatever suits their needs. Seems more interesting to me, but feel free to disagree. This also feeds into the point above about reps choosing where their new nations should go, not everything will be perfect from the get-go, but figuring out how to write with those problems is half the fun.

>>31137628
Can I ask what Alice’s azores thing has to do with what you have said? Clarify please.

>>31138139
Sorry, I may not fully understand the situation yet, still reading through everything posted while I was sleeping, but I do think that letting people add landmasses at this point is a bad idea and sets the wrong precedent. I would prefer if we kept the world stable and fixed for the most part and built societies and relations between nations instead. Changing the foundation of the project, ie the planet we're all on, this far in doesn't seem like the right approach. This change is relatively minor I imagine, but it can lead to more shifts down the line. I don't see much reason to add in more stuff for established folks. Can I get a QRD on what she wanted it for?

>>31137628
who is radically changing landmasses and climates?

Whew, slept through a lot again, catching up...
>>31126547
Accurate with regards to board dynamics, this is great!
>>31127015
That was lovely Alice, your best work yet. I really liked Ozawa and the epilogue, battle was fun too.

With regards to the island thing, all I'll say for now is that poals are easy to tamper with (that's why deadbeats always lose them on /hlgg/ kek) and we've got plenty to vote on this week, we can table this until the next vote and continue discussing it to make sure we find a good solution.

>>31138463
To keep it brief, she just wants an island chain in the 3.0 map, pic related on the poal vote. Its just for flavor and lore if anything given her reasons.

>>31138556
Thank you!!! I need to polish it more but I loved the ending, it was so sweet!!!
>>31138463
Just want on 3.0 azores so i can have hurricanes, volcano eruption and sort of like okinawa culture

>>31138463
She wants an island in the middle of the ocean as a sort of midway point i suppose. Some other people also want islands.

>>31129442
>>31138723
Is that midway?

>>31138479
>radically
Well I never said that, but haven't the latest batch of reps all asked for climate adjustments? Older reps aren't innocent of this behavior either, but I've always found it odd and would rather try and find a way to make things work in-universe rather than just have it changed unilaterally.
>>31138567
>>31138673
>>31138723
Well I would personally caution against it since I don't think we should be changing things too much. Not every nation will get to have everything a writer wants, that's just how the dice land sometimes.

>>31138788
Mapanon hasnt got around to this area of the map 3.0. just out of curiousity, who are you the rep for?

>>31138885
Fair enough, if there's an island there in 3.0 then it can be claimed by whoever would make sense, but I don't think people should be putting in requests for islands ahead of time. Does it matter?

>>31138985
We have had falseflaggers impersonating Sakuran so thats why i asked, just for you sake.,

>>31139043
Well they can't falseflag as me if I stay anonymous. ;)

>>31139144
NTA but Thats true, but for voting, we are deciding if every rep should get a trip for voting. It sucks.

>>31136858
Let's sit on this one till after the weekend, sweetie. If you can get the rough draft for the rules regarding unrepped nations cooked up, I can go archive diving and break up nations that are loreless, as per the discussion from last thread. See where we are with the idea after we have both of those complete.

>>31139252
>Trips for everyone
please no
I'd rather use some alternate, closer to home identity confirmation methods
Supas maybe not the best but Floor could work

>>31139252
...I'd really rather we not have to go that route, but if things continue getting worse in that regard then maybe it's unavoidable. Though trips are useless unless you can verify that it was the rep who made them. not!sakuran was unmasked because he couldn't edit his rentries, why not just have voting rentries that each rep adds to for each vote?

>>31132990
Dangit, just got to work. Gimme a few hours till the break to cook up the post. Tl;dr if you thought me losing interest was menhera, you'll truly see what it means to go menhera now.

>>31139461
They better not need to be akas, otherwise I won't be able to confirm a lot of posts...

>>31139461
>>31139537
The whole thing is purely for voting. But that is a point, albeit if everyone made a trip now we wouldnt run into issues.

>>31139619
Just dont be poor dummy

>>31139720
Bratty rich clocks... Needs wealth redistribution correction...

>>31139715
What if someone disappears for a while and claims to have returned but misplaced their trip in the interim. Are they just never allowed to vote again?

>>31139960
Of course not; there are other means as you have mentioned. Trips are just the most efficient fix even if for one post you lose your anonymity ;)

Proposal, thread veterans (since march) votes as 2

>>31139537
it is only for votes, no one forces you to post with a trip outside of that
since your vote post is made in the name of a nation anyway there is no issue with that having something that can identify it more clearly

>>31139590
Oh dear. Well, no rush because there's a risk I might have to pass out after vesper's stream. Been feeling pretty out of it.
>>31139720
Going to introduce Monarcho-Syndicalism to the setting just to spite bratty merchantmen

>>31140040
Or what if someone like "sakuran" comes back in a couple weeks and is told to make a trip for voting and just slides in to the process like nothing is wrong? The only thing this does is let an active rep prove themselves if their identity is disputed, but if they're active then they'll speak up at the time anyway and the real one can be sussed out by everyone else effectively already. Having a system like this in place just provides a false sense of security without being any more secure than being anonymous.

>>31140175
With resepect, that is a horrible idea that will make other voters feel disenfranchised.

>>31140175
no

>>31140217
I have no idea what that is though

>>31140249
I said there will be back up measures like editing old lore as an example.

Also, let it be known that if island requests become a thing, Moriji will ask for their Sandwich islands about there, I had this idea for a story involving a light house keeper on a frigid barren rock in the middle of the sea, where strange research is going on, but the weather around Moriji is a bit too pleasant for the vibe.
>>31140217
Damn, based.

>>31140187
Unless we get a lot of claims that votes aren't being cast by reps midvote, it doesn't seem necessary to enforce tripfagging.
>>31140314
Some reps just write in-thread and let archiveanon be the one who controls their nation's rentry.
If we do have this be a thing then every trip needs to be verified by some method such as editing lore and they need to be checked against every ballot cast during votes. It won't be the end of the world if we go that route, but I'm not convinced it will have much utility at the end of the day.

>>31140515
Wouldnt it make more sense in the north?

>>31137628
>It feels like we would be taking a huge step backwards and it would make the map look empty and boring.
I don't have a counter argument against this one really, since it will be kind of true? but I honestly think that's a worthy trade off for not having this really awkward struggle where every time a new thread shows up we have to rush to find a spot in the ocean, or an unprepped and loreless thread to carve up so they can have a comically small smidgen of the map in an area they probably won't have much overlap with, like what /Mans/ is set to get. While I'm sure mans probably isn't super peeved about what they're getting that's more than anything because of how layed back Vesbro is. My opinion on the whole process is that its a disaster waiting to happen. How do you plan on making space for Holo-EN3 when they arrive?

> I can't speak for others, but I do think about where other nations are when considering
Explain what you mean. What country are you? what lore did you plan?
I admittedly did this a little myself, in that I ended up planning a good amount of my lore around /wah/ being a neighbor, however I don't think its especially healthy world building to plan your lore around your perception of how a neighbor would behave if they WERE there. For example, imagine if Wah came in and wanted to trade with me rather than be my rival.

To create an example of how this could be harmful: Nation A is next to B and C. B and C, the writer for A imagines, will be hostile and writes his lore around this assumption. B and C actually arrive and neither are hostile, and are actually quite friendly. A's lore suddenly makes no sense.

>Some land could be more favorable than others because some threads may be more desirable writing partners. First come first serve is unfair
This is predicated on the idea that everyone will want to write with the same people. This won't be the case. most people will want to be next to threads that they specifically feel they want to write with. An ideal location for /Nene/ would probably be different from an ideal spot for /Okfams/. It also at least gives new reps a choice of who they want to write with. I'd prefer some people get some choice then everyone getting no choice.

This also assumes that the Neufag era placed all the nations in reasonable locations. Which wasn't the case. Infinity nearly had to throw away all of their lore because Neufag insisted on not giving them an island, causing the longest time loop in this threads history, and my name originates from having to edit mountains into /KFP/ because the country I'd been given had a comparable elevation to Lithuania, which kind of shits all over 60% of KFP's aesthetic. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who have grievances with the geography of where they are.

>Limitations leads to interesting outcomes
Sometimes yes however its is also really really damaging to some people who have very very specific ideas for what they want to write, and being told "nah buddy you're living in the arctic" is going to turn a lot of people away from writing. When basically every rep has asked for a change to their climate you have to acknowledge that there is an issue with the way we're doing things.

Anyway. Those are just my opinion.
One last thing I'd like to add is that I think it would be interesting to have unowned land, or at least islands, for the naval civs to squabble over, since its realistic.

>>31140515
Sounds kino af

>>31140589
That would be a much longer distance, due to having to sail around the Holocontinent. I imagined this station being established using the /nasfaqg/ base as a base of logistics.

https://rentry.org/hidhh
I am back with another chapter. Takeus' journey has gone somewhere now.
In order to cope with the loss of the map .PSD file I just do what we do best; "Just write, niggers!".
Enjoy!
It's also 4am here so good night.

>>31140515
This is why I didn't want requests to become a thing. If one person gets their own island then suddenly everyone wants one.

>>31140697
Could be a kino idea to have a research center down there with multiple nations too.

>>31140642
Lets also not forget that neufag drew the wonkiest borders in existance, making them crooked on purpose kek

>>31140706
To be fair, alices is by far the most reasonable since mapanon has not got to that part of the map yet and it makes sense given volcanic activity.

>>31140751
This is a bit of an horror story, not really the kind of research you wanna share with your friends... Maybe with /asp/...

>>31140909
Thats the point kek

>>31140880
I mean, the moriji island would also make sense from that perspective

>>31140701
Ohh I've been waiting for this, let's see!
t. original JWN anon

>>31140968
Moriji island is much much father away as well.

I think a caveat for island requests is also distance 2434 request is rather close compared to nasfaq and morig

>>31140701
>copes loss of map by writing all night
/meat/bro...

>>31140289
TL:DR, largely authleft trade union focused socialists with a strong emphasis on nationalism, tradition, and monarchy. Sort of a cousin of Falangism, I think.

>>31141247
Thats integralism. Organicchad did it kek

>>31141204
What is the furthest away acceptable distance then?

>>31141285
I cannot give you a number but 2434 has it ideal in my mind because its not in the middle of the ocean nor 5000km away.,

well sicne we are starting

the one i alluded to in my view of things, would be soemwhere around picrel.

i would want it to be something where i can showcase a different kidn of culture of the mainland, where it is further off and thus less influenced by the mainland culture.

the mainland, while very peaceful, loves competition and has a lot of "go with the flow" behavour towards onobots.

this would be a culture where competing agaisnt each other is not so much a thing and instead of banding together against all the scary thigns aroudn them. it would also be way less influenced by onobots.

it would also make for a nice place to have some kind of resort place where peopel get to nejoy the quality of life improvements and lucury of what the mainland produces in workshops and can then order it for themselves without having to deal with thte eccentric nature of the mainland.

a place less wacky

>>31141363
it is quite practically in the middle of an ocean, but I do get the point.
And i do also disagree with it, Moriji's story sounds kino enough to justify it .

I am not commenting, if the islands are an issue i dont need it as much as i would like it considering the lack of islands in much of the heavenly sea… i dont want this to be a discussion of «alice got this»

>>31141504
My desire for an azores is just going to make everyone want an island far away from them honestly.

>>31140701
That was kino as hell /meat/bro, nice work, the build up to the reveal of this new character's identity was really well done. Good job!

>>31141649
whats so bad with others getting islands?

Plus, i just remembered how everyone and their mum will latch on to me on this.

>>31141743
Its going to cause timeloops i can feel it.

>>31140642
>How do you plan on making space for Holo-EN3 when they arrive?
It's a fair question, and we've kind of been winging it thus far. Perhaps we could set up this provincial system but with the understanding that the current borders are to remain mostly as they are, but now there are set territories to guide us in drawing a new nation's borders. So just don't throw out all the old stuff when making this new system basically.
>To create an example of how this could be harmful: Nation A is next to B and C. B and C, the writer for A imagines, will be hostile and writes his lore around this assumption. B and C actually arrive and neither are hostile, and are actually quite friendly. A's lore suddenly makes no sense.
It's definitely a balancing act, but I meant in a more individual-centered way. Obviously you don't want to assume national policies or culture for an unrepped nation, but as an example if I wanted to do a story about a /meat/ slave it helps to know what countries are likely raid targets. Or if I wanted to include a foreign trader with wares from /fbk/ or something as a plot point, knowing basic information like their climate and how reasonable it would be for them to travel to me is useful.
>This is predicated on the idea that everyone will want to write with the same people.
There are reasons specific threads get popular to work with, some are much more conducive to collaboration with new people.
>This also assumes that the Neufag era placed all the nations in reasonable locations.
Fair enough, but things are intertwined enough now that I don't know how much we can change without screwing things up.
>>31140642
>Sometimes yes however its is also really really damaging to some people who have very very specific ideas for what they want to write
This is a collaborative project, people need to be adaptable to some degree. /inf/ had a very specific idea of what they wanted that clashed too much with the setting and had to be significantly reworked as a result. /nasfaqg/ had similar growing pains at first. Would being at a lower elevation really have drastically effected what you wanted to build, perhaps even to the point of leaving entirely?
>>31140642
>I think it would be interesting to have unowned land, or at least islands, for the naval civs to squabble over, since its realistic.
Yeah, that could be fun. It seems like we'll be getting some of that with all the additions to 3.0 though.

>>31141743
I see her point, she just wanted a little island area not to far from here and now nasfaq morig and vrt want islands far away from them and its just looking bad.

>>31141649
Thats good. Right?

>>31141924
I am sure every anon wants to write like Roseanon or Warkop where everything is shit and they have to adapt. Not everyone wants to do that and i dont blame them.

>>31141247
Alright, your menhera episode. My response. Read it again.

>>31141964
well i cannot speak for /nasaqg/ sicne i did not saw their idea for a request but for /morig/ and me, /vrt/, it would be a chance to revive some scrapped ideas that did not work with our current setup.

i am honestly fine if we agree to let it rest however

>>31142260
True, but those are extreme examples used to emphasize the point. Reps shouldn't be campaigning to have their nation be mediterranean instead of oceanic or whatever. Both are perfectly workable.

>>31142295
not vespiebro. Kek, you really are menhera, cunt. Kinda based in this instance though, I agree this is a pretty superficial reason for wanting the bigger island specifically, seems like the smaller one would work just as well for his purposes.

>>31142632
The two recent cases, that being mep and mhm, arent that bad. Mhm has a small piece of med along the coast while mep was mostly hot desert and savannah. Idk anyone that changed oceanic to med.

>>31142632
How much of the world is even oceanic btw?

>>31134245
yeah
the northern is indie dominant (/vrt/, /yah/, /wvt/)
the southern is small corpo dominant(/tsun/, /pcg/)
also, the lore that /774/ used to be the superpower before being overrun by western barbarians mimic latin america too

I wouldnt mind oceanic in wah just because there is too much tropical climates and monsoons

>>31142832
But why did they need to be accommodated in the first place? It just seems like a bad precedent to set is all.
>>31142964
Oceanic was just an example but here you go. It's the light green in picrel.

>>31142354
for us, its a chance to become a bit closer integrated with the holocontinent which we are heavily influenced by and should from meta perspective be more connected to.

It would be easier to justify historical connections and thus lore with the faraway nations like /who/ which I personally would really like to interact with, and the long distance is making it difficult to justify. Im not comfortable writing lore for repless nations so i cant really say that "yeah we got ports we can stop at in /ggg/ and so on.

There is also the point to be made about how having such an island would fit a seafaring nation very well. I considered having islands in the Golden Sea or the strait between the nijicontinent and the ID peninsula, but placing islands so close to other nations kind of felt like stepping on their toes, and that would not fit the idea of becoming closer to the holocontinent at all.

Middle of the ocean in the location i pointed at would not be on anyone's doorstep, and it would help justify a closer connection to far reaches of the holocontinent, thus the location i suggested.

>>31143108
Why not? The queen cannot leave my nation otherwise it changes to hot desert mate. I feel like you are bothered that i did this because i didnt want to write about savannah like half the other writers do.

>>31140701
>hag catalognaut divebombing on our protagonists with her clockwork wings
KINO

>>31143169
Why dont you and vrt share an island where retroanon proposed

>>31143247
NTA, I'm not against the idea of nations somehow influencing the climate of their country, but I do feel like the way you did it is pretty thoughtless. Just going "the queen makes the climate into what I want" without considering any of the ramifications. Like, what happens if the queen dies, how quickly does the climate change back if she does, what happens if there is a conflict between two branches of the royalty, how come the effect follows the borders of the country precisely. It just seems pretty handwavy.

>>31143594
From a meta perspective that would make no sense, however, personally I would be open for that, it could be fun. would have to check on tri first though.

>>31143247
I'm just thinking that if every new person comes along and starts throwing in mountains or adjusting the climate or creating new islands then we'll get into a weird clusterfuck before long that gets harder and harder to justify as a cohesive universe. And changes like that made to one nation start having effects on neighboring nations too.
>I feel like you are bothered that i did this because
Am I coming off as disliking you personally or something? No offense was intended,

>>31143686
>Queen dies
Long live the Queen
>Internal conflict
Our society is a semi-Hivemind. The concept of pretenders is hard to justify when the queen is the physical manifestation of Reine herself.
>follows borders of country
I am not in charge of Risu or Anya to make such judgements of if it goes there or not.
>handwavy
Perhaps, but if thats the way you feel so be it

>>31133677
I think that Neutral/Niji should be two separate continents.

>>31143169
yeah i get that, i also chose more in the middle of the ocean for the same reason as not wanting to step upon someone elses toes. and i also do not want to write for repless nations, even elss for my own gain, since i find it in bad taste and i want any new rep to have a clear slate to work with in order to create a nation they envision with no strings attached.

for me /ag/ also played a big role for that general location sicne i want to interact with them since mint is beloved by both our threads. it would also give me a different angle to interact with /meat/ who i feel some connection to since they are a thread in similar fashion to our beign focused on an interest rather than one specific chuuba or company ect. even more so since recently it seems we kind if indirectly seem to get retconned out of /risu/ and this would also kill our connection with /meat/ we have so far and i do not want to lose that.

>>31143594
i am personally not opposed to that, i already wanted to have onobots invest into /nasfaqg/ companies that seem on the up and go and with some honest and optimistic leaders.

>>31143825
No, i feel like you feel like the work i put in is less than other anons because i took the time to mess with my terrain and climate honestly. No offense to you personally but when i put days and weeks into this only to be told basically i am causing problems because i am lazy feels kind of rude to me. Anyways thats all i have to say. Going to bed, take care and please be patient. I am french

>>31142295
I've responded in the repost of my episode.

>>31140880
Not really. If she were to get an island, there is nothing stopping other generals from requesting them. This is why a lot of people generally hardlined not adding any land unless the situation is a crisis.

>>31144375
I have already said i dont want it anymore since this is clearly causing issues.

>>31144276
NTA but I mean... The extent of your climate related work was this post >>30102286, pretty much. Another anon even suggested an imo much more interesting layout for your climate but that didn't end up going anywhere. >>30104221

>>31144515
He is not changing it and i dont blame him

>>31144276
Well, I apologize for that, I didn't want to make your work feel less valued. And I wouldn't say that wanting those kind of changes make you lazy, moreso overly attached to a specific idea. Though I do agree with the other anon that this justification doesn't feel very compatible with the world we have set up currently.

>>31144013
>physical manifestation of Reine
Is she /here/?

So i have wasted time making all of these little rivers and lakes in wah…. Fuck…

>>31144716
how was it a waste?

why is this place always full of firefights at this hour?

>>31144764
Just hearing that my changes are fucking with the coherency of the word from several anons above.

>>31144795
Can we blame seaniggers for this?

>>31144832
Huh?

>>31144837
seaniggers are asleep
Kronieronie and meatbro are two of them

>>31144832
What are you talking about? No one brought up wah. Rivers are fine.

>>31144860
>>31143825
This. Man, i was even thinking oceanic too to make it fit the theme better. Oh well

>>31144475
Well I dont personally see this as an issue.

>>31144832
?? could you elaborate?
>>31144795
what firefight are we having right now? am i misreading things?

>>31144921
And Towapi

>>31144942
I changed elevation on the big island and made a few small island too

>>31145025
This is why you mention those things first before doing work on them...

>>31144944
As that anon, while I do think climate changes are not the best idea, rivers are perfectly fine. The world map isn't detailed enough to contain all the smaller waterways and such.

>>31145025
Changing elevation should be fine, adding islands probably not, those should map the canon world map.

>>31144995
the whole island request timeloop

>>31145069
I posted my map on it.

>>31145111
should match*

Whatever about my map, i am tired.

>>31145111
Elevation is definitely not fine, unless you change it by only a bit. Elevation affects winds and temperatures and thus rainfall.

>>31145161
i do not see it as a timeloop? i think so far we had a very civil discussion about it.
>>31145025
ehh more smaller islands might be a bit of a problem, for fututre its better to mention stuff liek that and discuss them with the mapanon

>>31145161
The island request thing has been really civil

>>31145414
Alice is only concerned about this turning into a timeloop more than being opposed it seems.

>>31145471 (me)
And i cant blame her considering how she personally gets targeted a lot.

>>31145379 (me)
ahh wait nevermind just took a closer look at the map you made, i think those should be fine but for future still better to say what exactly you are changing, i was at work at the time for example and could not even see them on my phone

>>31145570
Yeah this looks fine

>>31145471
>>31145538
well, as evil as it might sound, but just requesting for islands of her own she kinda should have expected backlash as it when thinking about past events. she sadly has that effect on soem people.

if anything i want to beleive the fact that the discussion has been very civil so far and while arguments for being in favour or against are being put out into the open, no one also jsut straight up said "no, why should you ave even more!" is hopefully a sign that more people in general have gotten to trust her some more.

>>31145768
I am personally questioning the elevation changes the most. Those are some high peaks. Actual mountains.

>>31145893
Big volcano, i would like to imagine

>>31145992
Compare the heightmap to the KFP mountains.
No volcano forms like that, those are everest-height straight cliffs.

>>31145846
Retro, i am talking about schizobait at this point

>>31146113
I don't feel like anyone has been schizoidic in this conversation yet.

>>31146095
He probably doesnt know, I want volcano kino. Krakatoa

>>31146162
Not him but i was not worried now.

>>31146252
I mean i was more worried about later.

>>31146113
since when do we care about schizos opinion?

and schizos don't got much ammo going either when others nations send requests as well

but if she personalyl lost interest in it i will also not push her to now stick with it further.

>>31146171
Thats fine, but something that high, and that steep, is impossible by natural means, and It would affect the climate a bit, especially on the island as now there would be a clearly drier and wetter sides to it.

>>31146340
I dont and while i dont care most of the time, it’s annoying and draining.

>>31146171
>>31146392
You can probably get your volcano as you wish, but it's probably not as tall as it is on the map, depending on what elevation correspond to each color on the topographic map.

>>31146392
I am also not him

>>31146571
Neither of us are him
>>31146590
im aware

>>31141924
>Would being at a lower elevation really have drastically effected what you wanted to build, perhaps even to the point of leaving entirely?
Yes, I've thought about this and it probably would. It would have definitely made writing less fun, and what I produced would end up being less interesting. It would have ended up being "Chicken themed Afrikaners" instead of KFP.
Most of the stories I have planned would make far less thematic sense on a flat Kaisereich.
I'm not sure if I'd quit, but I'd certainly write less.

Of course people have to be flexible, and limitations CAN lead to interesting writing, however I feel like you're willingly ignoring that in most cases the sort of limitations you're suggesting people just adapt to are going to obstruct the writing of interesting lore and stories more than it will help it.

>>31146513
Like most of you havent been attacked every day for hours on end. Excuse my reluctance to that with that in mind.

>>31146669
Do you have an issue with mhm and mep in that regard mountainsenpai?????

>>31146669
I think as in most things, there is a balance where the world can be adapted to writers' needs to an extent, and the writers can adapt a bit as well to ensure the world remains internally consistent. I am pretty happy with how we managed to work in Moriji's cold zone while still obeying both our magic system and relatively accurate climatology. All new writers should have the same courtesy afforded to them.

Forgive my wife, she is sensitive to schizos now.

>>31146983
how can you make me so happy and mad in one post????

>>31146513
that is understandable, i do hope that the more openminded nature of the thread towards you like today with the island is at least a step up for you

>>31146571
Based on the original map generator, the elevations roughly correspond to green areas going up to 1000 ft, yellow areas to 5000 ft, and orange areas to 10,000 ft, with red/ice the rest of the way up.

Wow, I got filtered. Farming would be on mainland and channel shores on continents. And volcanic islands wouldn't be farmable, but would have rare fruits like pineapples.

>>31144687
Oh don't get started on that shit. The Candy Kingdom has their avatar of Luna too.

>>31146969
nta. Moriji only has one mountain, not the entire climate. If a nation would want to change their entire climate then I think Moriji's magical mountain is not comparable.

>>31147175
Wah island would fish a lot!!! Probably some big fish!!!

>>31147236
I'm talking about /nasfaqg/.

>>31147206
Mepper is an ESL, but from what I understand, its not reine nor is it an avatar. Seems like Transubstantion or that the Queen is supposed to act like Reine as well.

>>31147323
Isnt that pretty cool to you??!

>>31147233
is point still stands tho, having to think of a creative solution to an issue might be fun to some degree but if something is just so much different than what you imagined then it can be hard to find the motivation to even want to start

>>31147175
Can i help in any way while im still awake? What's filtering you? Did my post last thread help at all?

>>31147436
I'll do your nation after I finish /nasfaqg/ surface analysis. And then I'll finish Lazulight other crops. That's my que.

>>31147562
Tend to agree, and i am mr realism but i think letting anons have fun with their climate is fine.

>>31147681
Thanks, but I was just thinking about the cool big squids and fish off wah. Understand???

>>31146669
>I feel like you're willingly ignoring that in most cases the sort of limitations you're suggesting people just adapt to are going to obstruct the writing of interesting lore and stories more than it will help it.
One could argue that there would be other kinds of lore and interesting stories to take their place with these "limitations" but that line of reasoning will just lead us in circles. From my point of view, I came into this project without any preconceived notions of how I wanted my nation to be, so I used the map to inform my decisionmaking and build something up organically from it. Perhaps our different perspectives are too incompatible for us to agree on this issue, but I hope that others were at least able to get some use out of the discussion.

>>31147562
We need more Roseanons and less mappers honestly.

>>31147762
That's pretty cool. I'm forbidden to talk and comment about /wah/ for one to two weeks. I do have ideas of when /wah/ could fish. But I'll keep those ideas to myself for now.

>>31147947
By who? Nasajanny! You are fine!!!!!

>>31147697
not just climate, if i take this potential volcano for /wah/ for example, sure we could just make it a realistic volcano, but wouldn't a very steep and maybe even slighty gravity defying volcano in the shape of a giant tentacle also be cool? i am sure there is a way to have chuubanite lead to its shape somehow.

just some random idea of course but i think sometimes, something being cool should outweight ultrarealism

My internet shit itself and so did I. I will be back later.

>>31146392
A note because I looked into this specifically, but topography can be pretty steep in the right circumstances. See the rockies https://gisgeography.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/US-Elevation-Map-1550x925.jpg or madagascar https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Madagascar_Topography.png ; thousands of meters of elevation change in small distances. I used fairly realistic erosion simulation methods to generate the Moriji topography and due to the supervolcano pushing up the island, it ended up with pretty steep elevation lines. I don't think the /wah/ map is implausible, though I'd have to see it in 3D to really tell.

>>31148022
Not all advice is bad. I won't be banned from the project. But if /wah/ doesn't need my comments or ideas then they don't need me annoying them.

>>31148064
Thats kino. (I am only mr realism for my stuff now, and i am leaning away from it somewhat.)

>>31148104
Did you ever see >>31127315 ?

>>31146969
This is I think the real correct take. We shouldn't completely change the map every time a new writer joins, but I also think its kind of obtuse to just expect a writer to discard or adapt all of their ideas because it happens that the lore their Oshi has doesn't match up with the all mighty map.

For example, here's a hypothetical:
>Hypothetical guy has Sara Nagare as his oshi
>The map hypothetically has Sara Nagare's countries climate as being identical to that of Irelands. That map cannot be changed.
>This poor bastard has to find a way of adapting all of the very Arab coded lore and cultural themes of Sara Nagare to what an Ireland like climate would allow
>The end result is either he quits or he writes lore that ends up having barely anything to do with Sara Nagare

>>31146873
Clue me in. I haven't been mostly focusing on writing my own lore since a lot of it is out of date.

>>31148237
Mt. Wae-To-Begg

>>31147899
>>31147931
sure having creative ways of incorporating what you are given is ncie and all, i personally cannot speak much about it since i got lucky that the land given for the retro reich was very nice for the base idea i had for the nation. but of course i also created lore based on what i was given.

but i think coming up with solutions on how to make the things given work for what you desire is also valied.
I am not sure exactly what meppers has planned for his setup further but to me havign a Queen that needs to travel the land and bless the earth in order for the land to stay fruitful and not turn into a desert sounds also interesting and has many potential for all kinds of takes for this. what if a new ruler is beign lazy and the land faces struggles due to that for example

>>31148413
Basically, they changed their climate to fit their lore and ideas. It would be better to do reps but thats the gist

>>31148160
Damn, you can really see the morigascar similarities.

>>31148541
I don't have a problem with people changing their climates a little to better fit what they have in mind. If it facilitates more interesting writing then I can suspend my disbelief

>>31148273
That's a false flagger you responded to. And yes I saw and downloaded your maps.

>>31148829
What the fuck theres a falseflagger for you around? I thought you were just making a "haha funny"

>>31148523
Think he is working on that, she does have to do a lot of relgious festivals and cannot leave the nation. Its going to be interesting with my lore considering the next queen isnt the most headstrong.

>>31144589
Eh, I guess as far as climate changes go, it isn't that bad if he really prefers it.

t. the anon who wrote >>30104221

>>31144944
Mind telling us more about the theme? Maybe we can work something out.

>>31148947
yeah i think people that say meppers is lazy and jsut changed his climate just cause are being lazy themselves and not thinking further on what he really does.

if anything, the fact he made the climate and how it changes a big part of his lore in a very unique way should actually make those that want people to work with what they are given very happy

i certainly cannot say of myself that my climate has been a factor in my lore at all if i compare the two

>>31144373
Edited my response in your repost.

>>31148944
Sadly yes there are now.

>>31149361
I just hope it doesn't set the precedent for stuff like tropical lowland tundra

>>31149802
>tropical lowland tundra
B-based climate??? Fyi, tundra anons have braced that hell, Warkop is my favorite example because civilization is barely clingy on there and some nations have to rely on others for food (Unironically, mepper wrote that in lore)

>>31150480
Thats on the level of having a fully automatic machine gun in 1800s of wacky

>>31150480
>rose
>nasa
We are forgotten….

>>31149740
>Sanalite has a dedicated schizo
That means youve made it!

>>31150480
I had fun with /nasa/ in the tundra. We were well equipped for it. To bad Sanalites were weak men who could not fend off thousands of barbarian caveman.

>>31150480
>>31150596
Infinity....
Great Winter....

>>31150480
I like tundra (and most other climates), I just don't feel we should get more at the expense of having patchwork climate zones that really don't gel with their location (like in the tropics and without help from high elevations).

Flattered my shitty lore abut koboniggers leaving us in shambles in the hell that is that thread (climate is perfect in retrospect) is loved. Mepper did write the holo stuff

>>31140701
Slowly but surely this is setting up to be a core memory story for this world

>>31151023 (me)
Id like to think all of the exiles from holi generals go to that thread. Thing is most of them are super nice.

>>31151211
Agreed, what are the essentials in your opinion? For me its
>takeus
>melisendre
>pomerlane
>tachibana go
>most recent onobot story

>>31150817 (Me)
I should add that I'm not saying we should force mepper to change /mep/'s climate back, or me criticising how /mep/'s climate comes to be. It's ultimately his thread so it's his decision.
Ngl stuff like this is another reason I lean towards the province map claim idea. That way if they really want a specific climate, they can just put their countries in said climate without having to jury-rig it afterwards.

>>31140217
Introduce national-syndicalism!!!!!!!

>>31151315
Really?!?! My shitposting, wild, nonsensical story about the City of Gold is a classic in this thread??? I just took the piss out of everyone, literally at the end.

>>31150480
btw Panon, would it be okay to ask for your help in the near future in regards to setting up some basic lore for a navy?
i have been thinking about this ever sicne a while ago, when the argument was made that there should at least exist some rough basics for it and since all i got is "we got a lot of ships but we don't even know how many". i feel like the argument is correct and this approach might not be sufficient.
i would still like to keep the spirit of it up by having the navy just be a rough estimate and not clear numbers but i also would like ti improve it, it is just something so out of my element and my miracle dream of having another /vrt/ rep show up who can this is probably just a pipe dream for a very looong time.

>>31151451
Would be honored. Lets do it tomorrow. (For me)

>>31151433
Well, it's fun to read, that's all that matters IMO.

>>31151426
daily reminder that no matter how you larp it, all left-authoritarian ideologies are basically just communism.

>>31151433
Alice, you write wonderful stories that I enjoy because you write them very uniquely. I can feel your characters well and with that story, it felt natural.

>>31151426
Live JONS Reaction

>>31151551
this, but all left-libertarian ideologies are also basically just communism, including democracy.

>>31151551
I see we have a PragerU graduate

>>31151545
>>31151589
Awww thanks, retrosenpai, ppsenpai and meatfriends inspired me, along with a pinch of Lewis Carroll.

>>31151551
I wouldn't put it as communism!!! National-syndicalism has obvious socialist influences but it's not communist I think!!!! Falangism in specific has christianity as a basis of its ideology!!! Correct me if I'm wrong tho!!!

>>31151315
For me its
>takeus
>Risuner stories
>Melisende

>>31151779
Isnt that Legionnairism more? Youre a spaniard so you should know. Also Franco and Salazar are based no matter how you look at it.

>>31151507
ahh i would need a few more days at least, there is a story that i need to finish up first at the very least.
put thanks for accepting, honestly when i tried to read up on navy stuff i maybe read 5 sentences before i instead started to drift of and create a character as the top admiral who is some cool femme fatale that got he rposition through hard work, the kidn of seriosu, straightlaced woman with logn straight hair and bags under her eyes at all times. she laments the fact she gets to have a fine navy under her but for a nation that is very peaceful whiel having grown up hearign the stories of her predecessor and how they were one of the few generations to take part in actual combat by supporting the shogunate navy in their war with /pcg/ and how honored they were for this opportunity. while she fears to probably never get to show her worth at all but still cannot accept anything but the best through hard work.

>>31151882
Miss Alice could help you unironically with characters since she has a stable of admirals she is working with. I can cover the rest.

>>31151433
i feel you, seeing one of my stories seen as "essential" to others is a weird feeling

>>31151963
Kek, me too unironically because it is so long and unfinished.

>>31151961
i got no issues with characters, its the actual, makign sense of ships ect that i got problem with.

>>31151961
>>31151882
Ohhh i want to play along!!!

>>31151779
NTA but dont take it personal
Unless they start reading theory kek! people cant tell the different shades apart
Diaz? Commie
Spiridonova? Commie
Valois? Commie
>>31151867
My favourite funny Spaniard politician is Dali because 'anarcho-monarchism'

>>31152053
i mean even if it is a special kind of autism that might not be for everyone, i can see it be a good read for those it caters to. even if i skipped past all the strategy and battle stuff, the fluff was a bit "dry" in the early chapters but it did improve as far as i read it

>>31152071
Can do!
>>31152244
I am not safisfied with those chapters either, desu. Its why i tell people to skip them

>>31152233
I think Dali was just shitposting at the time

>>31151672
Is that Ramiro??? Great man that founded the falange!!!!

>>31151867
I still haven't read much about the Codreanu but José Antonio believed in communal and syndical property, (I think I translated it correctly!!!) that's what differs it from the Iron Guard!!! The Falange is undoubtedly catholic, while the legionnaires are orthodox!!!!

>>31152233
Why would I take it personal anon??? I love learning about other people's opinions!!!
Communism like every other big ideology is split up into other types of communism with different characteristics!!! José Diaz was a stalinist if I'm not mistaken!! Maria was not "radical" enough for Stalin (that or she didn't praise his regime that much!!) while valois had an obvious communist influence to national-syndicalist but he was one of the first pioneers to the movement I would say!!!

>>31152103
you could help me with economics a bit if you are interested, i jsut got the suggestions from odl nasa rep and still have not touched that yet. while i do not want to just have some big lsit of stuff and rather focus on a few staple stuff that are characterstic for my nation, with the new stuff there should be stuff that could make it a bit more interesting

>>31152657
ESL just hit me!! This is why you proofread!!! I'm going to take a quick shower then come back!!!!

>>31152659
I need help with economics… i want mepper or organic or sol to teach me the secret…

>>31152657
>not "radical" enoug
Everyone in the SRs literally said 'terrorism good'! How's that not gaming enough

>>31152657
Ah. Codreanu.
You should check up on the White Eagles too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihai_Stelescu

>>31152752
Remember, food spoils over time. If you want to make money then you need unperishable commodities.

>>31152752
hmm how about once i got some navy stuff worked out to have a story together set in the past about the /pcg/ conflict? this would allow me make some characters of the "previous" generation and even flesh out the former admiral whiel also making some older veterans for the now time that served in the conflict when they were young?

>>31152657
Man am I glad you are just my 4chan wife(male) and nothing more. Cuz listening to you talk about stuff like this, while adorable no doubt, would probably make an even bigger alcoholic out of me than I already am...

>>31153328
I was sol was here for this kino but sounds good

>>31153424
well i still got to finish my current story first, which is giving me a bit of a hard time and then still first have my stuff figured out. so maybe by then he has come back.

>>31153385
Wife swap kek?

>>31153632
T’es faire à l’os!!!!

>>31153385
Cunt! /meat/bro showed these the other day! He said you might like it
>>/vt/thread/S30487857#p30509047

Hot showers are really nice!!!
>>31152884
I don't think I used the right word!!! Sorry!! That's why I should've proofread!!! But you're right!! Kamo was the biggest terrorist in Russia!! So much that even Lenin became disgusted by him!!
I meant someone that wasn't in line with stalinist thought!!!! Beria was a really gross man that only survived because he was close with stalin!!!!

>>31153278
I will!!! Tyty!!!

>>31153385
What do you mean??? Why would I make you drink even more????

This chickens going to bed. Friends teaching me to paint tabletop figurines tomorrow. wish me luck.

>>31149602
I'm about to pass out so I'll give a more proper response tomorrow, but I haven't read/watched made in the abyss, but I have planned to go pretty crazy with the biomes in [The Hole], so we wouldn't have to worry about constraining ourselves too much

>>31155121
RIP mountain's wallet. Good night.

>>31153903
How does he know a lot of weird obscure stuffs? is this what being /meat/fag does to you?

>>31155161
My headcanon is that high ranking Catalognauts, the ones that have communicators, are like white whistles.
Powerful and skilled, but mentally bordering into schizo territory. You can only endure so much after staring into the darkness and dancing with death for too long.

Word cloud for last thread.

>>31155251
Man, i know a lot about torture and execution methods like scaphism and shit. I actually want public executions to be brought have, Pedos and rapists castrated, etc. but I aint meat at all, i just believe in the aspect for fear it instills. We all are a bunch of weirdos here.

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>>31155584
I wonder if there are countries that execute people by exiling them to /meat/...

>>31155701
Nah, LazuLight will just do it themselves. Why waste time?

>>31155701
yes please.
>>31155817
because it costs money to do it yourself.

>>31155933
Yeah, but we like our executioners to be home grown and inflict a punishment worthy of the crime to the morbidly curious crowds.

>>31155933
>because it costs money to do it yourself.
Would it not be exponentially more expensive to send off a ship to exile a person compared to hanging that very same person?

>>31156336
Nah, it's like ordering parts from China instead of from a local company.

>>31156336
I mean /meat/ might be interested in funding or even paying for that job

>>31153385
Speaking of which since we're past the bump limit, did you give up on your journey of seeking occult Mahjong power?

>>31153632
Nah, you keep the kusogaki.

>>31153903
Oh yea, read the yugo barbarism one. Tbh, nothing really weird about it, just seems like something we would think up with friends after a night of drinking.

>>31154470
Well, because political ideologies don't interest me much, but I would still be a good husband and listen to you. Also because drunken sex is the shit!

>>31156092
so people pay to watch the executions? /meat/ is fairly clean and organized with executions to make sure they can get the best, most useable resources as possible out of it, but that might cause it to be less showy. plus, things can look worse than they actually are, and /meat/ engages in torture for the actual effect, not for the mere appearance of things being brutal, but we know how to make examples of those we leave behind, and we have good medicine to keep them alive and suffering for a very long time, so we could assist in the torturing and execution of criminals if you wanted.
>>31156402
this was my thought.
>>31156370
china only achieves that effect because they are willing to cut corners. /meat/ isn't.

>>31156529
W-why do you want to have sex with me so badly??? What did I do??!

>>31156719
Nah, we are more than happy with how things are. No one has to pay to see Fred the Pedo get his cock chopped off before he is hung. It aint about the sport, its about the message.

new breadmaker doko?

>>31156830
Im horny for you~

mfw my RL people used to be known for bribing executioners to give them bits of the criminals as medicine

>>31156907
Hey, watch it out. Ill whip ya into shape about worldbuilding now.

>>31157022
;) build my world kek

>>31156455
Not yet. Just gotta find time to play some more and get used to it.

>>31156803
You exist and you make my dick hard. Do I really need any reason beside that? I would have made sure you enjoyed it as well. My main fetish is seeing my partner drown in pleasure.

>>31157090
How about right now since I was going to make a Mahjong Soul lobby anyways?

>>31157087
I’ll write your lore and analyze your climate, before invading your lands and conquering you.

>>31157195
This is the weirdest ERP. Please draw from Cunt's example, he does it better.

>>31157090
>spoiler
hhggh that's not fair!!!!

>>31157137
Sorry sweetie, phoneposting from work, not really looking to get my ass beat rn. And right now, all I wanna do is bully cutiegoon anyway. I don't often catch him at bump limit.

>>31157195
Fucking kek!!!

>>31157268
That's okay. There's always later. When are your usual off-work/free time hours?

>>31157266
See? You want it as well, even if you won't admit it hehe.

>>31157289
Ill make you scream when i redraw your maps to my demands and make you cry when I make you read my saga while I spank you with storytelling.

>>31157364
Usually within 3.5 hours from now, 6:30am for me. That depends on if we decide to go for a few beers after work with mates though. If you see me post on here, just shout at me and we'll get something going :D

>>31157485
Stop i am crying, your too funny!!!!

>>31157485
Aight, that's fucking funny kek

>>31157485

>>31157558
And when its all said and done, you will agree to every demand i make, as my bitch and part of the Nijihive mind. You will not be able to lore post for weeks and will have problems typing from the pain and pleasure i inflict on you

>>31157364
Also, some anon mentioned something about grooming. What's all that about?

>>31145003
The other one that swings around is SEA (based off his replying times), I'm not. I just have stayed away with the rampant schizophrenia going on a lot more.

>>31157369
Ok but how am I supposed to reply to that!!??? It literally made me blush!!!!

>>31157712
Thats my ppsenpai, hahaha!!!!

Bread doko? free me from this ERP onegai

>>31157712
As the resident cringy ERP-er, I kneel, pp.

>>31157765
Accept it that you are just as gay for me as I am for you. Trust me, it gets a lot more fun~

>>31156830
kind of boring, and you are possibly stifling your ability to make the message by spending resources you won't get back save from a different means. you can't be certain how much you are saving through the effect of your examples.
>>31157804
we should have had someone say they were ready at page 9, just so we don't need to scramble for a breadmaker at page 10. ideally, it should be posted here before the thread dies, but idk what will happen now.

>>31157713
Don't worry about it. Mahjong grooming is a myth, it spread naturally for the most part.

>>31157945

>>31157765
Oh btw, how are you at mahjong?

>>31158003

>>31157929
Sounds like something one of these “enlightened” fools would say. Nay, we believe it works and have plenty of proof.

>>31157713
Don't trust triangle, it starts with some mahjong and the next thing you know, you're doing cringe faggy ERP with anons-
... Huh. I guess you're there already. Carry on.

>>31158063
Yea, been there done that. Not like triangle could compare to cutiegoon. I'm already taken.

>>31158044
enlightened on what? all i'm saying is you need to pay attention to costs because you can't take savings for granted when you don't know how much you saved.

>>31158160
So is he.

Anyway, I did my job, my wife(male) is most likely sitting in his chair red as a tomato and imagining all sorts of wild things, so I'll take my leave for now. See you cunts next thread!

>>31158166
The cost of executing some loser is priceless, and shall not be infringed.

>>31158339
>The cost of executing some loser is priceless
i don't think that means what you think it means.