/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Normal thread?

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>97,399: Shion (Hololive)
>39,079: Salome (Nijisanji)
>33,446: Suisei (Hololive)
>33,049: Toya (Nijisanji)
>30,893: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>30,528: Subaru (Hololive)
>30,203: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>25,554: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>25,451: Miko (Hololive)
>21,441: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,158: Gura (Hololive)
>20,651: Luna (Hololive)
>18,313: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,578: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,955: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,345: Leos (Nijisanji)
>12,985: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,244: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,115: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,790: Ina (Hololive)
>11,776: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,651: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,592: Ike (Nijisanji)
>11,395: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,272: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,981: Tsuna (VSPO)
>10,800: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,445: Nene (Hololive)
>10,395: Calli (Hololive)
>10,282: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,202: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,179: Watame (Hololive)

>>31063995
Office lady thread for A-chan and Nodoka

>>31064042
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
3x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha
1x: Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Polka, Shion, Towa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
141x: Hololive
78x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
26x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
8x: Nijisanji
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Kanata
4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Remember the sins of the nijiniggers

>>31064042
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
10x: Nijisanji
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
2x: Kuzuha, Pekora
1x: Flare, Fuwa, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Polka, Shion, Towa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
140x: Hololive
79x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
25x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
8x: Nijisanji
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Kanata
4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

keep me posted

Doesn't explain how Kiara and Pomu have wanted to eat each other out since before Luxiem existed and China didn't even know what NijiEN was, but they still weren't able to collab.
Might have some effect now, but China does not seem to mind HoloEN at all.

>>31063953
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>21,105: Gura (Hololive)
>11,776: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,651: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,592: Ike (Nochairsanji)
>11,395: Vox (Nochairsanji)
>11,163: Ina (Hololive)
>9,655: Mori (Hololive)
>7,907: Baelz (Hololive)
>7,363: Fulgur (Nochairsanji)
>6,818: Ren (Nochairsanji)
>6,742: Alban (Nochairsanji)
>6,123: Mysta (Nochairsanji)
>5,943: Sonny (Nochairsanji)
>5,399: Shu (Nochairsanji)
>5,327: Regis (Hololive)
>5,132: Kronii (Hololive)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)
14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)
15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)
16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 12
Nochairsanji - 5
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Gura
2x: Fauna
1x: Mysta, Ike, Vox, Kronii, Luca, Elira, Baelz

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Mumei: 24
Gura: 20
Fauna: 16
Luca: 10
Mysta: 9
Shu: 9
Ike: 8
Elira: 8
Vox: 8
Kronii: 7
Baelz: 7
Alban: 4
Noir: 3
Rosemi: 3
Selen: 3
Mori: 3
Ren: 3
Amelia: 2
Axel: 1
Ina: 1
Kiara: 1
Magni: 1
IRyS: 1

>>31063850
>>31063851
I'm not sure whether or not there are more of Kronii's audience like me but I watch her SC reading streams (on VOD or live if I can catch it) from start to end, but her game streams are skippable and, on VOD, depending on the game, I just skip from starting talking part to end talking part without watching the gameplay itself.
She absolutely sucks at most games, her whole appeal is the talking part. She should embrace that, pick more "zatsu" games and become She-EN-Toya aka She-EN-he-Ayame

>>31064145
see
2. One day before this collab, Pomu and Kiara had their first of many on-stream (chat only) interactions (https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6497).).
3. 3 months later, in October 2021, Kiara reported that her collab request for Pomu had been rejected : https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8
She didn't specify who did the rejecting. Considering that she had been quite candid about shitting on HoloEN management at the time, but avoided blaming any party in this instance, it was pretty obvious to guess that the block came from NijiEN side.
4. About a month later (late November), it was revealed that Lazulight was attending a singing event held by Bilibili, so this may have had something to do with it : https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/

>>31064179
kys crossposter

>>31061408
congrats by the way

>>31044048 :: Vox (inclining)
>>31043259 :: Mysta (massive recline)
>>31043532 :: Luca (inclining past Mysta)
>>31043827 :: Shu (reclining)
>>31044847 :: Ike (recline masked by special streams)

Pic related is Mysta, I have a theory that his "side box" outside of the NIjiEN box (Mysta, Nina, Mika) imploded somehow

>>31063953
HOLO EVENTS:

August 18 Holo Summer live
August 19 Shirogane Noel New Outfit
August 20 Ookami Mio
August 23 Hololive English -Council-
August 25 Holo Summer live
August 26 Holo Summer live
August 27 Holo Summer live
August 28 Holo Summer live
August 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer live
August 31 Holo Summer live

Other
20-21 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)
27-28 - another gen 3 collab (noel or pekora ch)

>>31064108
stop ban evading schizo

>>31064145
They were already knee deep in with bilibili long before Luxiem debuted, remember their first sponsorship was a bilibili published game and all of lazulight appeared on that bilibili event last november

>>31064220
>>31064216

>>31064108
>4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics
Kon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun!

>>31064216
nijiseethe

>>31064201
It's a dubious jump in logic that "Kiara would have said if it was Cover".

>>31064179
>pick more "zatsu" games
Except she's a fucking retard and doesn't know what a zatsu game is. She literally said Stray isn't a fucking zatsu game when literally anyone who made it work used it as one.

>>31063953
18) holo gold (Holo summer live)
19) holo gold (Noel costume)
20) holo gold (Mio birthday/gen 3 collab noel)
21) ??
22) niji gold (Toya birthday)
23) ??
24) ??
25) holo gold (Holo summer live)
26) niji gold (Koshien 2022 exhibition match)
27) holo gold (gen 3 collab pekora)
28) holo gold (Holo summer live)
29) ??
30) holo gold (Holo summer live)
31) holo/niji gold (Fuwa last morning radio/Holo summer live)

holo summer (stream or premiere)
18 stream, 25 stream, 28 stream, 30 stream, 31 stream

niji noon (guests/performers dependant)
15 - 19, 22 - 26

niji 24 hrs karaoke relay
27 - 28

powerful hag

>>31063953
last year

>AUGUST
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab
3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles
6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX
7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice
9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery
11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals
16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal
17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday
18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke
19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement
20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom
22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament
23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut
24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab
25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match
26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart
27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon
28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut
29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting
30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachi

August 1 - 15
>holo 5
>niji 9

August 16 - 31
>holo 10
>niji 5

total
>Holo: 15
>Nijisanji: 14
>Indie: 2

>>31064315
good thing that isn't the crux of the argument then

1. Ollie collabs with Gundou from NijiJP on 28th July 2021 (https://youtu.be/Ghzt6N1WB14).). This was around 2 months after NijiEN debuted.
2. One day before this collab, Pomu and Kiara had their first of many on-stream (chat only) interactions (https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6497).).
3. 3 months later, in October 2021, Kiara reported that her collab request for Pomu had been rejected : https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8
She didn't specify who did the rejecting. Considering that she had been quite candid about shitting on HoloEN management at the time, but avoided blaming any party in this instance, it was pretty obvious to guess that the block came from NijiEN side.
4. About a month later (late November), it was revealed that Lazulight was attending a singing event held by Bilibili, so this may have had something to do with it : https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/
5. Around the same time of the above reveal, Selen said that she finally was allowed to collab with Ollie but that was postponed and then cancelled, with nothing else coming of it (https://youtu.be/qH_lYfNNw78).). Speculation is that Selen's manager got permission from Cover's side for the collab and so Selen thought it was fine to announce it on stream (since once Cover's side was clear, obviously she assumed NijiEN would be fine with it). But the Lazulight Bilibili announcement may have caused NijiEN higher ups to veto it so that Lazulight could still attend the event.
6. December-January : Luxiem debuts and gains a humongous audience from China, inclining the entire branch and becoming the most successful NijiEN wave to date.
> Pomu - Kiara interactions - both on-stream(YT chat) and off-stream(twitter) - are still happening in the middle of all this btw.
7. March 5, 2022 : NijiEN discord leak. Irreparable damage to NijiEN perception in the eyes of hololive fans - specifically Fulgur. Damage is far more to NijiEN fans' reputations thanks to their reaction, but the livers' behavior was also frowned upon since they were outwardly friendly towards Holo. Pomu didn't have any major involvement, so her reputation is still relatively clear.
8. May 1, 2022 : Luxiem officially get Bilibili channels (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1520712132718964736).).
9. July 13, 2022 : Pomu Birthday stream, when starting to read pre-recorded messages, reveals that there was "one more" but asks her fans to pretend that she read it on stream. Highly likely that this was Kiara's birthday message, but Pomu explicitly avoids confirming it despite freely being able to namedrop Kiara in prior streams (https://youtu.be/zkAecWb_yTs?t=10401).).
10. July 21, 2022 : Kiara SC reading stream, SC references Pomu collab. Kiara reveals that she had been hopeful for a while, but looking at "recent developments", it felt like it was never gonna happen (https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=15873).).
11. Aug 06, 2022 : Pomu sends the contents of her bag for Kiara's bag reveal stream (https://youtu.be/wtRj5RGlMHA?t=6371).). Indicating that Hololive management has no problem with Kiara involving Pomu in her streams.
12. Pic related is the latest clue we have, where the post discussing the aforementioned incident was deleted from the Nijisanji subreddit with no explanation, but was not deleted from the Hololive subreddit, which explicitly has a Rule against "advertising VTubers outside of Hololive". Even the Hololive mods commented on that post, telling people to chill, but did not lock the thread, delete the post or prevent discussion.

>>31064332
>18) holo gold (Holo summer live)
Niji has Lize and Mito today (JST), could be a horse race

>>31064267
only ban i got recently was for lewdposting amamya too hard which i dutifully served, funily enough nobody posted the pekora tally either for those three days

>>31063953
Kawaii announced their debuts will be at the end of this month and its 5 girls.

current list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>GezuGezu https://twitter.com/GezuDayo
>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi
>Mai Melody https://twitter.com/MaiMelodyCh
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Kirispica https://twitter.com/kirispicaa
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69

Only write off for being in Kawaii from this group is Fen Riru since her graduation/hiatus is after August 31st and the Kawaii debuts are August 27-28.

Other locations to end up for these girls include
>Tsunderia whos auditions ended around the same time as Kawaiis
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 assuming theyre doing a dual wave like past waves minus Ethyria has gotten
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>idol corp(?) had auds end at the end of July so likelihood for this one might be the least since timeframe is small

>>31064179
>She should embrace that, pick more "zatsu" games and become She-EN-Toya aka She-EN-he-Ayame
I mean, I agree that Kronii's gameplay is usually awful and she's more of a talk streamer (hence why minecraft works like crack for her), but you're really underestimating how difficulty it is to be a full time talk streamer like Ange and Kenmochi.
Kronii doesn't have the stories or the speaking ability to be that yet. You kinda have to be an open book, whereas Kronii is quite guarded about stuff in her life.

imagine how packed this would be if they didnt collab with a failed branch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moU_n5J-gh0

>>31064272
Keep in mind that Nijisanji as a company and especially the JP branch is also in bed with China, and freely collabs with Hololive Japan. You know, the part of Hololive that actually had Coco in it, and the part that gets spammed by chinks to this day. And Niji EN still collabs with Vshoujo, which actually has Kson in it.

>>31064088
why are nijifags like this?

>>31064145
Lazulight did a concert for china before luxiem

>>31064248
Here, for contrast, is Vox.

Good incline, lost steam (Reimu thing?), then bounced back

>>31064474
HoloKR soon

>>31064449
You can include the entirety of that Heaven X company in this. They're free agents now. It's possible that dragon one that got booted a while ago told them she was going elsewhere.

>>31064476
Why do you think we call them nijiniggers?
Also the nijimeido is back it would seem

>>31063953
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>21,105: Gura (Hololive)
>11,776: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,592: Ike (Nijisanji)
>11,395: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,257: Mumei (Hololive) *Z: 11,651*
>11,163: Ina (Hololive) *Z: 11,790*
>9,655: Mori (Hololive) *Z: 10,395*
>8,680: Kaela (Hololive)
>7,907: Baelz (Hololive)
>7,363: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>6,818: Ren (Nijisanji) *Z: 7,596*
>6,742: Alban (Nijisanji)
>6,369: Zeta (Hololive)
>6,123: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>5,943: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>5,399: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,327: Regis (Holostars)
>5,132: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,028: Moona (Holostars)


>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)
7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)
9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)
13. Luca (Nijisanji) – 25,830 (Nijisanji Koshien B League Watchalong)
14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 36,531 (Nijisanji Koshien Finals Watchalong)
15. Moona (Hololive) - 16,769 (Minecraft HoloID CUP Rules)
16. Moona (Hololive) – 19,113 (Minecraft HoloID CUP)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 13
Nijisanji – 4

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Gura
2x: Moona
1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii, Luca, Elira

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 9
Nijsanji - 8

>SILVER PER STREAMER
3x: Shu
2x: Reine
1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Elira, Anya, Mori, Baelz, Fauna

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 11
Nijsanji - 6

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo
1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen, Mumei, Reine, Ren, Anya, Ike

>>31064179
I don’t know why she doesn’t focus more on the pseudo-zatsu aspect like Gura does. Does she need the supa money that bad to read every single one of them?

>>31064474
the "failed branch" is the one that's actually popular over there.

>Random sub 1k sub channel uploads a Gura ASMR.
>340k views in 2 weeks.
Fucking christ a public Gura live ASMR would do numbers.

>>31064477
They didn't "do a concert" they did a segment in an event. I think they did one song?

>>31063995
baitposter pussied out

>>31064474
man Hololive is really strong in Korea, how does Yagoo do it?

>>31064248
>I have a theory that his "side box" outside of the NIjiEN box (Mysta, Nina, Mika) imploded somehow
Or you could take a look at his stream choices, viewer retention, and overlap with Vox to see why true average is fucking him in the ass.
Your theory is on the same level of retardation as people saying Ame's numbers are tanking because of "improve yourself" or Bae is struggling because she's sucking too much homo dick. Yabs like that don't affect numbers.

>>31064675
He has the blessing of god

How often does the first army list get revised?

>>31064326
>She literally said Stray isn't a fucking zatsu game when literally anyone who made it work used it as one.
I watched her and Mel's gameplay. She did fine, she focused a little too much on trying to "extend" the experience by taking the path she shouldn't (trying to find secrets) but all in all it was not her worse game.

She does fine with Powerwash tho and she could easily make it a weekly event

>>31064466
>Kronii doesn't have the stories or the speaking ability to be that yet
That's the thing: because of her voice she doesn't even need to be interesting, her (lack of) pacing and interactions with chat are enough to make it good enough for a hour long stream, hour and a half.

Toya (and Suisei on occasion) does it with slither.io, doubling as "user participation", Kronii could get away with it as well

/news/ roundup for 17-08-2022 (all times are in JST)
> NijiEN sponsored to play Tower of Fantasy. POVs -
Vox : https://youtu.be/KKDrdY-5JOk
Elira : https://youtu.be/K8BEV2NVkxM
Luca : https://youtu.be/X5o05J-4g7c
Selen : https://youtu.be/aIvU00UJ-_A
Alban : https://youtu.be/4KGsmb56Avo
Rosemi : https://youtu.be/8vCzHwrK7k8
> Shion held her 4th Anniversary 3D Live today with Aqua, Gura and Laplus as guests (https://youtu.be/WkUXJUQMZ-8).). [Embed] Also announced Anniversary merch and an original song "Chandelier" by Kanaria(https://youtu.be/Y-pC9U_usX8).).
> ex-NijiID held a full member fall guys collab for Indonesian independance day (https://twitter.com/MikaMelatika/status/1559782072893448192).).
> Some old Hololive VODs from the Holocaust days were unprivated today, may indicate return of permissions for Yostar games -
Arcknights (https://youtu.be/WntsTG7Uy-Y).).
Mahjong Soul (https://youtu.be/MNIoHfyOcCw).).
Azur Lane (https://youtu.be/tqF0NirEVq4).).

>>31064248
Isn't the big peak when they did the off collab and he hosted all the big streams on his channel?

>>31064474
>Nijiniggers seething that hololive succeeded where they failed

>>31064756
It's been the same people since I first saw it. Not been any reason to change it. Subaru's the only one that recently made any big moves to get popular, a by recent I mean...like 10 months ago.

>>31064617
She's retarded.
I will keep repeating it. She's retarded. Fauna thanks every SC but doesn't read them out unless it's interesting enough or is $50 and up. Mumei essentially copied this and you don't see them fucking swamped with superchats that they're constantly backlogged unless they just stop reading for a week.

>>31064787
Recent clip numbers
>>30957158
>>30957213
>>30957680
>>30957720

>>31064662
Gura is too shy for that
>DYRB
Yes, yes I do. She does that many member streams because she likes relaxing with the smaller CCV she gets and the less casual audience she gets. If she did a public one there’d be a fuckload of CRINGE comments which puts her off.

>>31064682
>Yabs like that don't affect numbers.
It does if it affects the morale, motivation and mental health of the streamer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urOtTBtY7Ww
You Little Shit got over 150k views in 24 hours

which is more than i expected for this.
Should have similar legs to Haachama meme songs, getting good views for a while, while the meme is fresh, then fall off completely, unless Kobo or someone does a cover to revive it for a week.

>>31064662
how the fuck are people even finding it? Also add it to the list of things Gura could do for insane numbers that she just doesn't care about. I sort of wish that Niji discord leak had something that pissed Gura off enough that she actually tried, just so we could see what that would look like.

>>31064853
Fauna isn't the one who came up with this. Kiara and Mori have been doing the red/pink only thing since a month or so after debut. They set the template.

>>31064474
Pretty incredible. It's interesting they did it in Korea before, say, LA or NY (or both). But maybe everyone thinking they're feeling out HoloKR is on the money.

>>31064908
>thinking Gura would even be aware of the Niji discord leak

>>31064894
Is this literally just Kiara saying you little shit x 100? I don't get the algorithm sometimes...

>>31064248
I would assume it's his choice of content before anything about Nina or Mika. Pic related and compare it to Vox who has a very strong schedule.

>>31064756
you mean this?

>>31065021
There's no way that didn't make its way around the Holo discords. Ollie was passing literal doxx around.

>>31065028
Anon do you not know about the desu MAD?

>>31065054
Garbage aside from the two collabs.

>>31065111

>>31063953
I came here to post this:
Nice armpits

>>31065111
Gura basically ignores all that shit, she even ignores her manager half the time. Someone would have to specifically go to her and say "hey someone said something bad about you" and hope she actually cared.

>>31065021
Assuming Gura knows about it
>thinking Gura would care about what NijiEN gossips about when flesh streamers 10x bigger than NijiEN have been taking shots at her since her first week

>>31065200
kys tourist

>>31064787
Adding that that Haven-x NFT vtuber startup agency shuts down
https://twitter.com/havenx_official/status/1559902903661301760
>>31045517
Remaining 2 members immediately graduated, looks like red was gone for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcFPzSFdHHU
>lost another dark skinned, big boob, mltilingual girl this summer
cruel summer

>>31065111
It took Gura 30 hours to respond to Sana's graduation on Twitter and she frequently ghosts her own genmates for days.
You think she'll be up to date with drama?

>>31065105
Did you just delete Akutan?

>>31064682
Things like that effect numbers over the long time because it just adds to your reputation. Everyone has there own limit but eventually you will just find more and more people tuning out

Like let's just be clear here that the top members of HoloEN are all the ones who have spoken the least or practically ignored the homos. If you want to try and say that's just a coincidence go ahead but when the bottom are consistently at the bottom and the top are not it becomes pretty obvious

It's not the yabs specifically, it's the fact that they're the type of people who would talk about this stuff in the first place. And viewers aren't as interested in watching that.

>>31065316
Maybe she didn't have a stream in that time period?

>Reggie hit 2k
>Noir hit 5k
>Magni will likely 6-7k with Ollie/Vesper APEX
>Axel spamming another full Tempus collab to keep him from falling below 4k ccv
another day where I don't have to kill myself yay

>>31065281
>NFT
Doomed from the start

>>31065316
She doesn't reach the limit of 5 stream a month most of these graph makers use.

>>31065444
>>31065281
Kek, her final words.

>>31065419
>Magni will likely 6-7k with Ollie/Vesper APEX
Doubt.
But still, don't kys Anon. The homos are doing good.

>>31065524
Based but she's an idiot for even taking up this gig

>>31065419
Did you bet your heart valves that they wouldn't fall below 3k ccv or something?

>>31065576
Maybe she didn't have a negative opinion (or any opinion) on NFTs before joining a company that pushed them.

>>31065316
you need at least 5 streams to be in any army

>>31064735
Amelia going on break, time for EN3 :DDDDDD fugg

>>31064970
Mumei said she got it from Fauna which is what I'm basing it on but ok

>>31064894
I’ve played it over 20 times just to hear Flare “your ririre shin”

>>31065105
whats the dog doing why shes so high recently

>>31065556
We betting? If Reggie hit 5200, I think Magni could easily hit 6000.

if you were part of en right now what would you do to save it

>>31065750
sex Nodoka

>>31065028
It is pretty much the same as Yuki Yuki Yuki which went semi-viral back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-G5DVNlw4&t=13s
Also I can't believe my shitpost about it hitting 1 million in a month might come true.

>>31065750
Force them onto the idol path and restrict them from taking to niji completely

>>31063953
Towa's 3D live has the most views of any of holos 3D lives this month.
Towa: 824k (8th Aug)
Miko: 781k (1st Aug)
Aqua: 628k (11th Aug)
Botan: 604k (14th Aug)
Flare: 496k (7th Aug)
Lamy: 446k (12th Aug)
Polka: 381k (16th Aug)
Bonus - Hololive Summer: 595k (9th Aug)

>>31065750
mandatory sex
with me

>>31065750
Replace the other talents with Gura clones, and by that I don’t mean people similar to her, I mean literal clones.

>>31065867
some gooks are hot as fuck, now I understand why some anons want HoloKR

>>31065867
Don't copy my post for thread spam unless you're going to update it, especially something like current vod numbers, you faggot

>>31065579
Magni and Noir yeah, but fucking Regis and Axel had sub 3k streams in like the first week, anon. Axels was because he was streaming in JP time, Regis is just a shitter though and he's gonna be Niji girl/Yugo/Fungus/HoloID tier. Actually, Magni had a 3600 zatsu and he's planning on doing more so he might actually fall below 3k with one eventually. Dudes la creatividad but he wants to do more zatsudan to kill his numbers. Collabs and special streams will probably keep him in the 5k avg ccv range (which is all you can really ask for honestly, from any EN streamer).

>>31065826
Dance and signing classes type stuff or

Mori is a waiting room for Kaela

>>31065919
Huh? You can argue they are crazy, neurotic, controlling, use a lot of makeup/plastic surgery, etc and I will back you up 1000% but there are lots of fucking insanely hot KR girls no one sane will argue that. That's why then can get away with the first part. T. gook

>>31065750
People love a a good narrative, and i mean, like movie/event one, not rrats.
EN barely does anything like those, keep it going until a payoff event weeks later.

They could make a cult around Aqua (since she was the main narrative driver before Pekora), hype up her achievements, upcoming events and be all impressed when seeing stuff she built in Minecraft, etc.
You could do it with Pekora too, but the rarity buff is prefered here. Have 1 side drive the meme more.

>Holostarts EN pretty much started doing this with the JP management
Ah, 1 step ahead, as always /mans/
They Will save EN.

>Marine 2.1M subs
Jesas, she really isn't stopping. I wonder when she will slow down with this sub gain.

>>31065867
>Losing to Towa and Miko
So...this is the power of a full-time idol...

>>31065750
Graduate all the gens that came after Lazulight and Obsidya.

>>31066009
Want to try reading that post again?

>>31066047
Getting rid of everything before Luxiem would make more sense. Luxiem are the money makers and the trend setters.

>>31066011
I will never forgive Kronii for killing the Minecraft war before it even started.
On a similar note to JP making events, Towa's takeover of HoloX through Clubhouse was incredibly kino and would be easily replicable for EN as well.

>>31065976
seethe

>>31066136
The trend they set was abandoning NA and catering to chinks. I don't future gens will be able to tap that well very effectively.

>>31065867
post more sexy gooks pls

>>31066164
It's already outdated

>>31066148
Towa can't even commit to a simple stream with an EN.

Moris new song isn't doing so hot.

>>31066191
kys tourist

I want to rape Towa and her mother

>>31066136
Post was asking about EN, anon.

>>31066213
Seems like she's releasing a ton of music recently, maybe it's a condition of her UMG contract.

>>31066213
Her new music videos are so uninspired and look so unappealing, that I don't even wanna click on it

>>31066210
My point wasn't to have Towa go against EN, more that EN could take the concept. It Can literally be any EN member trying to take down another group. Like Bae vs SNOT or whatever.

>>31066253
are you ok anon? dont be so edgy you could end up cutting yourself

>7 days
Oh no no no Marine's sub growth is getting into Mori's head.

>>31066358
does adding more time actually do something?

>>31066213
Good

>>31066358
Either that or she's actually gaslit herself that she's surrounded by antis and they're in her chat

>>31064735
EN3 soon... I feel it in my bones...

>>31066213
As with most 5th singles of an EP. Most of the focus was put on Capsule and Mera Mera.

>>31066294
They're not new songs, it's the other tracks on Shinigami Note.

>>31065750
As management? Make sure there is a healthy split between girls who collab and frequently talk to the boys (Bae, Mori, Ame, Kronii) and those who don't (Kiara, Gura, Mumei, Fauna, Ina is kinda on the fence but I feel like she won't, Irys). EN3 and Tempus will get tricky because of this split. I feel like some girls will be obligated to talk to Tempus because they are now the new kids on the block and Tempus might feel more empowered to tweet about them as a result. If I'm management I tell them to back off. Having all five of EN3 openly collaborating with StarsEN is a recipe for disaster, there's a reason the top 3 HoloENs don't talk to men, it does kill numbers.

Also, could we talk a bit about "saving EN"? >we are just shitposting right? What the actual fuck is there to save besides adding some early timeslot streamers and another PST streamer or two? Mumei, Fauna, and Ina are near or above 10k right now. That alone would put them ahead of the next biggest EN vtuber group, but they also have a few 6-8k streamers with Irys and Kronii, and Bae/Ame are both above 5k. The only HoloENs who aren't consistently 5k+ streamers are Kiara and Mori. Plus they have the crown jewel of EN vtubing. HoloEN is doing great and I genuinely can't see a future in which it fails unless EN3 goes full Bae/Ame will males.

So next week is mostly event free for EN, perfect for some kind of debut

>>31065748
It's split pov.

>>31066588
Do you think UMG regrets signing her? Holy Shitto is still crawling its way to 1 million views over a month after its release. She's reclined a lot since the days where she could release any old shit and it would hit 1 million within 4-5 days

>>31064735
IS EN3 TIME

>>31066549
well no wonder when she spends her free time /here/ kek

If I was cover I would take a bunch of talented girls that know English and are living in japan, prepare them with singing and dancing classes give them actually good songs very pop style and try to break mainstream music audience with their help. Make dance practice streams and such as well as normal gaming content

>>31066554
That will only happen if Ame goes on actual planned vacation.

>>31066664
EN was getting 20k viewers in their early days. They've reclined by over 50% while JP has slowly gained ground. HoloEN is an embarrassment of a branch that struggles to stay ahead of ID despite having two of the most subscribed members of Hololive in their ranks.

>>31066696
You have no idea what numbers other signed vtubers get if you think UMG regrets signing Mori.
Look at King's original song numbers, he's also signed to UMG.
10% of Nijis are signed to various Music labels and most of their songs don't even get 500k views after a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruTeLFjV894
Kanata's counting song just hit 2 million views.
This is her best performing song since the lost King cover over a year ago. Considering Odo got hit with the drop.

>>31064735
Isn't she on a trip to korea sooner or later? HoloKR even??

>>31066795
only gura gets 20k frequently

>>31066673
God fucking damnit, I should have seen that coming. Well good thing Noir already made the cripple tally, genuinely have no fucking clue what their ccv will be. Noir and Magni got 3500 with their split pov collab. 4k between Noir and Magni with Ollie buff(?) would be nice.

>>31066840
>best performing cover

This is Kaela's slowest minecraft start in a while. She's usually 4-5k by 20 mins.
Then again it's 4am in ID...

>>31066043
mysta... he must be saved before he goes even more menhera...

>>31066840
>counting song
you call it that? i remember it as the song with chinese in the chorus
>drop
nani?

>>31066795
That was before culls, nothing you can really do about it.

>>31066876
Now? Yeah, because EN reclined. Kronii had the potential to be a 20k streamer until she deliberately debuffed herself by endless breaks and refusing to use her minecraft autism to her advantage.

>>31066886
Don't think Vesper WI have his POV, it'll be Magni and Ollie.

>>31066696
Anon, even Ado, arguably one of the biggest talents in all of Japan who chucks out milti million view videos regularly, is listed on the new one piece movie and is recognized for making multiple mainstream songs that’ve hit over 100-200m views, has songs on her channel that fail to even break 2 million.

Like, just put that into perspective for a moment. You’re complaining about Mori’s songs taking slow to hit 1 million when she’s typically a 2-5 million view artist with a couple 10 millions from a year ago. Ado shits out 5-10 million views like nothing, has multiple 30+ million view songs, and still has songs around 2 million. See how dumb it is to harp on someone’s production? She just sold out a concert and all its merch too. I doubt they’re complaining.
Yes, we all want her to incline and get back to where she was. But getting uppity about a couple songs is just dumb

>>31066970
>EN is getting shit on by JP now because culls
Nope. Cope.

>>31066213
I like a decent chunk of Mori's music but I thought the song was pretty bad. In general I think her UMG-era output is a decline in quality.

>>31066978
ever, unless you are talking about 2020 but i'm assuming you are not being that retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjgC5s-F13M

>en vs jp and cull timeloop
home....

>>31064600
>5,028: Moona (Holostars)
>Holostars

>>31066906
I genuinely hope doing actual fun streams but getting solid numbers 7-8k puts him in a better state of mind than getting 10k but having to deal with chinks. Dudes obviously got some mental health issues, it was even in the all out war leak kek.

>>31067002
>Yes, we all want her to incline and get back to where she was.
Judging from his tone, I don't think he does lmao

>>31067050
ENfags need to be reminded of their dead dying branch periodically.

>>31066936
I couldn't figure out the title
(the fuck's a "telecaster beboy"?)
and the most memorable part is the
>one, two, three, four

>drop
The thing we've been complaining about for a month, that new songs, covers especially are dropping way faster in views than in the past.
An anon pointed to a YT update notes at the same time that implies they changed how repeated views are counted.

There are more people in Fauna's waiting room than Aster's peak.

>>31067090
why are nijiniggers like this?

>>31067002
>She just sold out a concert and all its merch too. I doubt they’re complaining.
but anon, selling out a concert is actually a bad thing according to her antis/nijiposters.

>>31067050
>3PM NY, 7AM JP
Yeah, it's time.

>>31067112
that explains why we dont have any sapling here

>>31067002
Speaking of Ado is everyone hyped about her new collab with Suisei?

>>31067112
And that's why nijiniggers started the EN vs JP loop again

>comparing the JP vtuber market to the EN vtubing market
You guys are just shitposting right? Nobody is actually this retarded, r-right?

>>31067112
Aster is by far the weakest NijiEN male, maybe even more than Yugo.
He streams in EU hours and we all know the EU hour droughts...

>>31067165
I'm always excited for anything Suisei.

>>31066978
yeah, the EN branch didn't do as well as they expected.

>>31067190
It's one of the preferred time loops of shitposters since someone will always bite.

>>31067190
Nijinigs trying to stir shit up since they don't have ammo right now from their end

>>31066990
Nooooooo I want to see my old man in action. Well, I think Magni 5k is still in play then. Guess we will see, won't be surprised by 4k though.

>>31067002
>Yes, we all want her to incline and get back to where she was.
are you sure

Speaking of songs
Honma's new cover didn't reach 100k in 7 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n588iK0IsuY

I think she should just do a re-debut/new channel stunt by now, to attract new viewers. Because her old audience has mostly left.

>>31066990
I'm not entirely sure about that, I think he may have his POV just by the way he talked about the collab at his morning Zatsu but he's just chronically late with putting up frames

Nice to see Ame supporting her new Boy toy.
Can't wait to see where this one goes.

>>31067090
for real though even as a last samurai i start feeling kinda bad for ENsharts..
Third gen will be their final chance. they either win everything or go home empty.

>>31067190
If the JP market is so much bigger than the EN market then why is Luxiem on the same level as Kuzuna, Kanae, Hayato, Fuwa, and Chinman? If we take away Koshien buff Vox, Luca, and Mysta are unironucally top 10 Niji males in the entire branch. Only Kuzuha and Chinman solidly beat them. Meanwhile literally none of the HoloENs are in the top half of HoloJPs besides Mumei and only Gura is 1st army tier and that's barely.

>>31067303
she unironically needs to graduate and apply for hololive.

>>31067376
She really wants his D

I don't get corpo vtubers not caring about their numbers, you are literally part of a company if you wanna be a 2 view and do whatever you want just stay indie and don't bring down your coworkers

>>31067490
fuck off. we don't want her.

>>31067505
im actually surprised she didnt go for axel

>>31067376
Ame is EN Fubuki now. I respect it. I'm just glad she isn't constantly in their replies like Bae and the HoloIDs. I swear to fucking god Zeta replies to every single Axel tweet. I think she wants to build up a cat/dog dynamic.

Now this is how you buff a SC reading.

>>31067508
Retard it's the other way around.
Being in a big corpo means you don't need to care about numbers anymore because you have a safety blanket and multiple streams of income.
Being an indie means you live and die with your numbers.

>>31067490
I don't see any semi-prominent Nijisanji vtuber getting into Hololive at this point, too much drama. Maybe if they graduate and take a year off so it isn't too recent

>>31067520
who the fuck are we nigger?
fuck off
I speak for every holofan that we want her.

>>31066213
She is putting out way too many songs way too fast these days and a lot of them doesn't feel as special or as good as a old songs

>>31067588
Just get use bikini png instead

>>31067520
>we

>>31067588
OOOOOO LORD, FAUFAU, DEM DIDDIES BE BLESSIN

>>31067607
i wonder whats the base salary in cover and if its different between branches, gens or agencies.

>>31067620
Honhima is King's sister. It's our best chance to get King to transfer to StarsJP and... okay I can't do this loool

>>31067520
>>31067620
>we

fauna 12 hour stream confirmed

>>31067508
Being obsessed with your numbers doesn't actually guarantee you numbers.

>>31065323
>Bae was the least popular member of Council after Sana from the beginning.
>Ame has been reclining for months because she puts little effort on her streams and seems to be streaming deliberately during heavy overlap for some reason.
>Mori has been streaming in a variety of different timeslots instead of being consistent and seems to prefer JP/EU timeslots for some reason. Her moving back and forth to NA and JP during the last year hasn't helped.

Imagine if I tried to make an argument about Kiara, a dyke that's one of the most unicorn-friendly Hololive EN members, being the least popular Hololive EN member JUST because she ignores Holostars. I would be laughed at.
You unicorn-cucks are becoming more annoying than homobeggars. Maybe it's time to join them and off yourselves.

Kronii's cover still going super strong. If she gets 5k/hr she'll have 260k in 24 hours, which is super good for her. She really hit it out of the park with this cover all around

>>31067190
falseflaggers, I'll watch EN and ID all I want but no one has a brain tumor big enough to actually think they can compete with JP. There are some low performers of JP and high performers in EN but on avg, no

>>31064735

>>31064267
kys holotranny

>>31067688
Wii?
yeah my fav console

>>31067706
Faunas og song hit 199k in 24 hours. if it follows the same trend that shits about to hit the slog after 1 day.

kek

>>31067559
Ame is a saviorfag and Regis needs the most saving.
>>31067766
>tfw a Holo will never play Rance on stream

>>31064876
do cuckbeats really believe this shit?
doesn't she get thousands of viewers during her membership streams, especially, I would assume, ASMR?
pedos get the rope

>>31066904
She usually has a slow start when she start around this time but Kaela's specialty is just streaming for a long time to fill out dead hours or hours between stream

>>31067740
Audience size matters a lot too.
I don't know what kind of miraculous event needs to happen for 320k people to tune into a vtuber event in NA time, let alone Coco's 490k.
The daily JP audience for vtubers and HoloJP in particular is massive in comparison.

>>31067607
I know that i'm just tired of corpo vtubers having no ambition and not carrying about helping grow the company

>>31067854
>Gura
>Cuckbeats
Best part of your whole bait tbdesu, if only because I’ll respond just to laugh at you

>>31066904
I don't know how the actual fuck 5000-10000 fucking people tune in to watch a boring hag play minecraft every goddamn day for 6 fucking hours

>31067932
ogey

>>31067990
Background noise

>>31067796
Orisong's are a completely different ballpark. Like, just to put this into perspective for you:
Kronii had 150k views in 8 hours for her cover with a 7k premiere peak.
Shion's orisong has 112k views after 9 hours, with a 20k+ song premiere coming off a 97k 3D live to promote it.
Polka's orisong that's fully animated and probably spent hundreds of thousands on, with a literal list of animators and people credited for assistance, has 258k views after a day and a half. Mind you, this came off a 70k anniversary live as well as the fact she's been spamming it on twitter.

Orisong production just isn't really there much of the time

Yea, the N-filter still needs some work.

>>31068093
holobots trying to find their way around the filters LMAO

>>31066904
Her views ramp up the longer her streams tend to go on. She basically catches other people's funnels just by virtue of streaming for so long.

>>31067620
She can go indie if she wants to quit, just like Lulu and Gibara did. We don't want any more ex-nijis in Hololive. Luna only gets a pass because she was clearly mistreated by Anycolor and she got out of there quickly enough.

>>31067388
You say this as if EN is going the way of NijiKR and NijiID.

Does Fauna usually get 3k+ in SC readings?

>>31068256
During light overlap, yeah. If no overlap, she can get 5k.

>>31068256
Ever since she started inclining most of them end up over 4k. She is still inclining this stream as well.

Oh I found out why this thread is relatively peaceful, I checked out /hlgg/ and it's a complete trashfire. Looks like the usual spammers headed over there.

>>31064160
>All of Council has at least one EN gold this month
ummm...Mythkeks?

>>31067607
I think that anon's point is that when you're in a big corpo you share a brand with these people. Not giving a fuck about your numbers isn't the end of the world, but it shows you don't care about trying to grow your stream and in turn don't care about growing the brand

Vtubing is very much a world where a rising tide raises all ships.

If everyone had the same mindset Regis does hololive wouldn't have gotten to the point it's been at today. He can afford to think they way he does because people like Pekora did care and put in that work to grow the holobox. It's really short sighted to think the way he's thinking. Not that he should make numbers his entire identity but maybe DON'T have a playthrough of the Zelda game with the most boring intro be your debut game

Enna my beloved where are you... also stop doing shill streams you're hurting your 5k average...

>coomerbaiting
>Still can't get 5k
Yikes, where's the incline? Oh wait I forget it doesn't exist when a real streamer overlaps her

>>31068323
Mori can't even hit 10k anymore. Everyone in Myth besides Gura and Ina are bottom tier ccv now

>>31067620
You don't speak for me. We don't want Niji scum. No sympathy for her. She decided to work for that black company so she can sink along with it too.

>>31068323
This is a thinly veiled post asking for more minecraft.

>>31067002
>selling out concert
that's the worst thing that could happen, basically Mori bankrupted UMG and she can't
even recoup their losses with some youtube song views

>>31068093
>advanced holobots
yagoo is using a new service?

Luna is quality

>>31067190
One of the arguments of ENfags was that the EN market is a lot bigger and they cited sub counts to "prove" it

>>31068359
Calm down there Faunaschizo. Fauna has more watching her SC reading than Vox did playing ToF

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/cfk_fEhwsM8

what the fuck is going with Mori's viewership actually, are zhangs trying to bot her and get filtered every time or fucking what?
or are Ruski fags watching her on VPNs actually fucking up her stats

>>31068345
it may be hurting her average but it does wonders to her wallet

>>31068511
Think she is stuck in a hotel with shitty wi-fi on a laptop.

is she still on the same hotel wifi as when she did the golf collab with Vesper?

>>31068526
How funny would it be if Niji pockets like 80% of the sponsorship money and leaves then with peanuts

>>31064375
the power of sex

>>31064160
>>31068402
Looking at the golds, they all fit in a few categories
Consistent gold winners:
>Minecraft
>Rust
>Karaoke
>Koshien
>Gura
>Celebration stream
Then a few one offs of generally buff content
>Tier list
>Genshin gacha
Then lastly you have Mumei and Fauna doing getting over it...which should not be a buff stream, so I'm not sure how it got so high.

>>31068505
Wow, the absolute fucking revisionism. That wasn't an ENfag argument, that was a JPfag argument back when Myth was in their prime. And a Nijifag cope since they had less subs and less EOPs.

Ah fuck I got dragged into this loop

>>31068176
>we

>>31068648
>so I'm not sure how it got so high.
was a collab, same shit as Mori's Jumpkasts

>>31068648
>>Gura
Stop it

>>31068648
>which should not be a buff stream, so I'm not sure how it got so high.
Mumei is popular, Fauna is relatively popular, Fauna is a GOI autist. It's a recipe for success.

>Fauna shitting on baseball
Based.

>>31068338
>He can afford to think they way he does because people like Pekora did care and put in that work to grow the holobox
This. I feel like many Holo fans take too many things for granted without realizing how much work the golden gens put in to raise to greatness.
Make fun of Pekora or Migo or whoever all you want for being numberfags, but it's thanks to them if other Holomems have the luxury to take as many breaks or play as many SOVL kusoge as they want.

>>31068728
Wrong thread
>She still doesn't get why people like to watch her
She needs to stop

>>31068345
*4k average

>>31068390
fuck off retarded falseflagger.

is this the first time this happened?

>>31068689
Yes. We. You don't like it, you can fuck off.

>>31068711
Its not even about GOI per say. Faumei got 18k and the first cripple gold in July playing Observation Duty

>>31068830
People love Mumei/Fauna combo.

>>31068338
The last motherfuckers that should ever, EVER try and filter their audience are the homofags. ideally they should work extra hard to be the founding gen of a dynasty of strong chubas, but instead they go on numerous rants about how they hate numbers and playing popular stuff.

>>31068824
polmao

>>31068708
Fauna got 5.8k on her last superchat reading and 5.6k before that but is having trouble just limping past 4k now...yeah I think this is a clear recline. She's not overlapping anyone right now either, you can't tell me sapbeats exist.

>>31069126
>you can't tell me sapbeats exist.
They do though

>>31068728
Baseball ain't bad, but I ain't sitting through 162 fucking games of that bullshit. Give me the playoffs and that's it. Same shit with basketball, I sitting through 80 games. The NFL and Yuropoor Divegrass leagues are different though, I'll sit through those.

>>31069126
Meant for
>>31068506

>>31068582
that's exactly it, anon
Niji takes 80% of SC/memberships/ad revenue/sponsorships and merchandise

the voices in your head are correct

>>31068648
Getting over it is a buff for Fauna because she is really good at the game.

>>31068823
No, happened to Rushia too

>>31068823
I don't think so
they have been slowly decreasing for months

>>31069209
They can't do that and then also not pay them a salary, only like Luxiem would be making 6 figures.

>green whore sub-5k
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>31069250
True

Is Phase Connect actually inclining or is that PC shill just retarded?

>>31069328
Take it easy man

>>31069328
Everyone but Mysta is losing to a superchat reading, I'm not sure if you should be gloating.

>hlgg getting raided by schizos
>fauna schizo is back in numbers
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>31069328
she has reclined a lot lately

even the wigger playing Jump King for the 239234th time has more viewers than her

>>31069410
>Fujo baiting date stream.
>Lose to a SC reading.
Noctyx really didn't do as well as expected.

>>31069394
They are inclining a bit because they fill a niche but their ceiling is low. They actually remind me a bit of pre-Luxiem NijiEN. I wouldn't be surprised if some disgruntled NijiEN fans moved over to them who don't like the direction NijiEN took after Luxiem blew up.

>>31069250
I mean for Coco because I haven't seen her in red for 1 year. Until she joined Vshojo and -10k sub happened.

>>31069410
How many goddamn Tower of Fantasy streams are they gonna spam

>>31069410
jesus christ.

>>31069410
>nijis out of nowhere
did koshien's 321K mindbreak you that hard?
is nijisanji living rent free in your head?

>>31069497
are sponsorships a foreign concept to you holofags?

>>31069419
N-Nature is healing?

>>31069410
>Fulgur
lol

>>31069410
I can't believe I actually read an ironic Niji shill post saying Fulgur was a brotuber

Kronii's cover is actually performing pretty well. Kronii should take this as a hint that people want her to be a deep voiced seductress. Her viewership will shoot to the moon if she embraces that role.

>>31069547
yes

>>31068824
No. Only you. Now fuck off.
We want honma for hololive you evil nigger.

>>31069410
More like tower of number poison

>>31069493
It would be weird if it didn't happen before. You probably just catched it as it happened.
In fact, I'm sure it happened before.

>>31069582
It's going to slow down. This cover won't hit 1M within the month

Is it just me or does Fauna get pretty impressive numbers on her SC readings?

>>31069582
>Kronii's cover is actually performing pretty well.
numbers?

>>31069532
Top companies can barely afford a single Pekora/Gura shill stream, meanwhile ToF is probably paying Niji less for a week's worth of streams from 20 different talents, kek.

>>31069579
Have you never gone on a cheeky date with your bros before? I bet you think brojobs are a meme too.

>>31069582
As soon as I heard her SEX voice in the cover I knew it would do well. That is exactly what people want from Kronii.

>>31068511
She is stuck in a hotel with a laptoo

>>31069643
Its just you

>>31069643
Because she's a good talker, its more of a zatsu given how easily she tangents.

>>31069613
You do realise that there's a 50:50 chance that she's the one that bullied Luna out of Nijisanji, right? It's either her or the panda.

>>31069579
Yet Tempiss can do shit like this and you call them "brotubers"

>>31068824
>we

>>31068409
God, I missed this, I desperately want to know what the fuck that argument was

>>31069784
>t. ESL
That tweet doesn't say what you think it does.

>>31067704
>being the least popular Hololive EN member JUST because she ignores Holostars
Quote where the fuck I said that you disingenuous niggerfaggot. Go on. Point to me where I made this quote that you totally didn't pull out of your dick sore ass. Oh that's right you fucking CAN'T

I never said that because that was the never the point I was making you retarded fucking faggot
I thought I made this clear by by my last line that it's not JUST about shilling homos but I guess you're too braindead to even read my entire post properly. It's not specifically mentioning boys that drops numbers, it's that someone who mentions boys does not have the personality of an idol and so people DON'T want to watch them.

Watson doesn't care about being an idol, she debuffs herself constantly and shills homos while trying to piss off her unicorns. It's not one or the other that people get fed up with IT'S THE ENTIRE PACKAGE. Someone who doesn't give a fuck about the viewer experience or improving herself/schedule for her viewers.

And Kiara being annoying as fuck while being an english streamer despite having a cancer accent getting shit views doesn't mean Homos can't have any impact on the others. Kiara would be a shit streamer no matter what she did, hell she probably doesn't shill the homos precisely because she knows it would tank her views too.

And you do realize Bae literally shilled the homos from day one right? How does this help your argument? Wow the one who shilled Roberu and talked about some of her favorite anime boy x boy pairs in her debut has been the shitty runt from day one (excluding the one who got fired for not streaming) wow that sure does convince me that it had no impact on her LMAO

This is the numbers thread faggot. If you want to be a retard and ignore obvious trends that are extremely obvious among the top EN then you can be my retarded guest. But you inventing arguments and quotes that I didn't say will make you a faggot no matter what happens. I never said it was SOLELY because they mentioned homos. It's one part of a larger trend and to try and argue it has absolutely 0 impact when we all know who the bottom dogs are in HoloEN makes you the biggest niggerfaggot imaginable. Kill yourself and film your suicide.

>>31069765
I've never heard Honma mentioned in those rrats. It's always the bully panda.

>>31069643
Holofags have no other streams to watch so they're forced to watch a superchat reading. If they had a choice they wouldn't watch her.

>>31069765
>50/50
Honma and Luna's RMs did a collab stream like a year after she quit, retardbro. If you want to believe the bully rrat it was obviously not her.

>>31069837
meds
NOW

>>31066213
the mv just came out but it was one of the second weakest songs on the EP (the first being holy shitto). give it a wee bit it'll go at the HS crawlrate to some views

>>31069837
didn't read
sorry that happened

>>31069784
that's very much bros being bros
good ribbing with unchi response

>>31069837
Meds

>>31069643
not really
she gets ok numbers, she's at 4K+ with only Mori playing Jump King yet again

>>31069837
>>31067704
>>31065323
>>31064682
https://youtu.be/-2224PokN9M

>>31069837
Bae has literally inclined since Tempus happened and it really ins't helping your case lol

>>31069837
Holy based

>>31069394
It's going up slightly over long periods of time due to the batshit-ification of that entire corp over the course of the last year or so, but the consequence of said change means that their ceiling ain't gonna be all that high.

>>31069837
mucho texto, you aight bro?

>>31069784
You must not have any friends if you think this is anything comparable.

>>31069997
That's because the bitch has been spamming Minecraft, Holocure, and Karaoke.

>Failna won't even make it onto the cripple tally today
Oh my days
Where's the 10k? Not even a 5k? Is she inclining upside down now?

>>31068345
PLEASE HAVE MY CHILDREN ENNA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>31069582
>take this as a hint that people want her to be a deep voiced seductress
She is literally incapable of doing this for longer than three minutes at a time before collapsing into a girly wreck, anon

>>31069890
Holy shito had a really good mv tough. Make them fear is catching with it which is surprising. And probably both will hit 1m next month.
Camouflage is dead on the water. End of the world is doing better than it as it is still raking a few thlusnand views every 5min

>>31069997
I don't think that has anything to do with Tempus. It's just a coincidence that since Tempus' debut Bae has picked better time slots and has been avoiding overlap. Not shocking her viewership has gone up.

https://playboard.co/en/video/PjzyNJSA_IM
Anyone catch what happened to Nene's Orangestar cover?
It was doing pretty well compared to her other recent songs too.

Then again, it was also finally a popular song, that suited her voice.

>>31070071
I'm convinced you faggots who keep spouting this "pretending to be gay with the boys" shit are actual closet faggots. Kys, I have plenty of friends and we don't act like fags.

>>31070167
>t. faggot

>>31068823
Second time for Coco. Her peak was 1.45M and she hit that well after graduation.

>>31068409
>selling out a concert and its merch is the worst thing that can happen
i really need an explanation as to why this is a bad thing

>>31070167
You just lack reading comprehension, it's okay

You know, here's a decent question.
Do we HAVE any data that we can use to try and figure out the commission rate for sponsorship streams?
I'd love to know what dollar figures are going to Cover and Anycolor for each of these things. I'm sure it's different per stream, but it would be nice to get some kind of minimum baseline.

>>31070087
>She has been creating content
Your point? Fauna and Mumei do the same

>>31070289
Is a reference to anijinigger post thag said selling out thw tickets was bad and they were losing money

>>31070289
Insane nijinigger statements that selling out a concert will incur additional fees making the artist fall in the red by having a sold out venue

>not even 1k waiting for Blue Boy
I'm genuinely scared he's gonna become a sub 1500 shitter soon

>>31070289
Remember
Selling more tickets means you're in the red

>>31070161
She deleted it because it had a problem with the sound somewhere or something like that, will reupload it again
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1558690277581197312

>>31069394
Retardation

>>31070543
RIP algo.

>>31070406
w-what

>>31070167
eigo jouzu!

I wonder if there's ever been a gen or wave where every single member is widely successful except for 1 member who has like 1/3rd the ccv or whatever of the other members
>inb4 Sana
Doesn't count

>>31070688
Explain why Sana doesn't count

>>31070688
isn't that Flare until the model redo?

>>31069394
They really are inclining but the scale of Phase Connect and even say the worst Niji EN is vast. It's more they're setting themselves clearly ahead of the pack of other small EN corpos. Big enough they're probably not at any risk of financial insolvency, barring some catastrophe like 5-6 talents all quitting at once due to internal drama.

>>31066213
Too much music lately and I don't like these MVs.

>>31066407
It literally prevents you from posting until you're "cleared". Not sure if you're retroactively blocked after you're cleared to post though.

>>31070688
if you go by medians, rokkisei but it's more like 1/2

>>31070813
>barring some catastrophe like 5-6 talents all quitting at once due to internal drama.
that's honestly not out of the question, given recent developments.

>>31070741
For the same reason Mel doesn't count when talking shitters. There was extremely mitigating circumstances regarding her numbers. An extended absence at debut effectively kills your entire channel. It is the biggest debuff ever enacted on people by God. Literally unrecoverable, you might as well retire at that point.

>>31070167
Anon this isn't flirting. This conversation is literally
Magni calling axel a fag for his phrasing. If this was nijiEN his reply would also include a flirt like "you're gonna do what to us this season? uWu my sussy bussy is quivering", and Axel would then reply with "Cum".

>>31066358
Probably in response to the Nowa collab.

>>31070875
>recent developments
the fuck are you trying to rrat into existence?

>>31070688
Sana was never 1/3rd of Bae's CCV anyway. It would be exceptionally hard to find a 4th and 5th place separation that wide.

>>31070688
Lazulight based on this,
>>31066043

How are Marinefags holding up since Polka absolutely mogged your pirate whore's music video and song?

>>31070875
>"This will be the end of Phase Connect", says increasingly nervous man for the seventh time this year
Cope, people have been saying this since gen 1 debuted last year and they have done nothing but incline since.

>>31069837
Take your meds, it's not that deep.
Watch Kronii's numbers not change at all when she does do a collab with Tempus one day.

>>31070975
That's why stats needs context, anon. Elira is not a 4-5k chuuba. She's 2k shitter, she just got two four hour 30k streams to pad her stats from Koshien.

>>31070875
PC doesn't actually have any controversies, just stuff that make polniggers here angry but would be irrelevant to an actual audience.

>>31071062
>Elira is not a 4-5k chuuba
This. Enna is the only 5k chuuba from LOE.

Yeah Regis is doomed

>>31071091
Didn't one of them literally scream
>I AM GOING TO COMMIT A MASS SHOOTING

>>31070975
Elira is not going to keep that for long. She literally got her highest and 2nd highest streams ever within 3 days and they were both Koshien watchalongs.

>>31069643
She does fine. Most people aren't pulling 6-10k on SCs like Watame.

>>31071134
Yeah its pretty much Enna >>> POWER GAP >>> Selen > Pomu > Elira > Millie > Rosemi > Nina > Petra > Reimu

>>31071059
The collab with Tempus will never happen, given what she said it would require Vesper to proactively approach her for one which I find unlikely

Kyo about to become an 8k streamer tonight

blue guy looking grim, meh that's what you got for not playing number game.