/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30965027
Daddy issues are way more prevalent that you think.

>>30965027
I'm not going to read that wall of green text.

In a world of superstars, the everyman is the real superstar.

>>30965027
Sooo…is Vesper Asian or not?

>>30965027
When you find an old man relatable and interest you find yourself wanting more

>>30965027
Women and daddy issues, my anonymous friend.

Male buff - actually have to have a personality instead of boobs/anime noises
Non-fujo pandering male buff - No BFE or homoshit to crutch on for easy numbers
Fully functioning adult buff - Has a good amount of self awareness as well as a good understanding of social rules and boundaries

>>30965027
How did Magni try to become a flesh idol when he can't sing...

>>30965027
Why is axel in last? I thought Regis was the one no one watches

>>30965524
Korean american or canadian.

>>30965936
Regis' fanbase is mostly women who like his karaoke streams or guys that like watching him play shooters.
But he keeps playing stuff like Zelda and dungeon crawlers at weird hours.

>>30965027
Well Kronii has big daddy issues, so it's not a surprise, plus she'll probably stay away from the two Korean dudes.

>>30966170
does Hololive not know the word "white"?

>>30965936
Axel doesn't stream as much as the others, he had to delete and reupload some of his streams due to various mistakes, he always gets the time for his streams wrong on his schedule, and he's still kind of rough around the edges when it comes to streaming in general.

He was mainly a cover singer before joining Holostars, and music is still his main focus. He took a few days off from streaming recently to work on recording his next cover.

>>30965027
Magni and Noir overtaking Regis and Axel shows that you can overcome model debuffs

>>30965818
Also the most powerful of all: old man buff with lots of life experience

>>30966293
Whites are yab machines, this was the right move.

>>30965936
Regis hides his power level and is smarter then he lets on
Magni is the "I'm A Genius! / Oh No!" trope
Vesper is the relatable boomer
Axel just hasn't found his groove yet

>>30965914
there used to be an entire reality show competition for such people

>>30965524
Vesper is biggest mayo monkey ever.
>>30966287
Also asian chicks are often thirsty for white dudes.

>>30965027
>Once tried to be a literal male flesh idol and failed
Wasn't that just a setup for a joke?

how bad is magni at singing?

>>30965027
My brother moved to japan and frequently tells me how much puss he gets and hes a fat ugly balding white man so maybe there's some sort of a reverse asian fetish going on here

>>30965914
Depends on what the style of the group is like. There are some groups where a few members just dance and rap a few lines every now and then.

With certain types of male idols, you can get pretty far with just a lot of personality and mediocre dance skills.

>>30965027
Turns out he has something a lot of the others don't have.
>Life experience
He's the easiest to relate to of the 4 if you're not under the age of 22 and grew up before the geek is chic wave.

>>30966466
Your brother is either lying or buying prostitutes. Not even westaboos, like fat, balding white men.

>>30966360
Axel is to Tempus what Luna is to the Subaru/Choco/Luna/Botan group. Very entertaining in collabs and adds the comedic idiot energy for the other three to play off well, but not as entertaining as a mellow solo act. Will have VERY loyal fans, and has music talent (for Luna it’s in keyboard, not singing), but lag behind the other three in wider appeal.

How the fuck can someone like Vesper but not NorthernLion? This board makes no sense

>>30965027
Silly anon, Vesper is supposed to pander to /here/.
>Retro guy
>Likes factorio, dorf fortress
>Enjoys roleplays
>Somehow gets all the bitches
>Chasing after a-chan
If anything he's our insider.

>>30966640
Luna is actually very smart though, her idiot moments are calculated, she doesn't do it all the time and shares the idiot slot with Subaru. Axel is a genuine himbo.

>>30966647
What makes you think you can't like both?
Also NL only plays like 3 different games and isn't into weeb shit.

>>30966462
Your drunk friend at karaoke level. He's very mildly tonedeaf but at the stage where he could be taught.

>>30966356
>old man buff
jesus christ that's me in 11 years
I guess that is a lot of time

>>30966756
Yeah, he's the closest thing we've ever had to an /ourguy/ on this board. Some of the girls pander directly to /vt/, but this guy is the genuine article. It's like looking into a mirror.

>>30966928
mag is literally here

>>30966640
>Luna idiotic energy
You've never watched Luna.
Also, her solo content is comfy as fuck. Just like Watame.

>>30966756
He was part of /wvt/ and posted occasionally there, he is actually here.

>>30966898
Don't worry, only zoomers think 35 is old. (And they'll change their minds the moment they reach 30 themselves.)

>>30966960
Sure, but he's so young. Vesper has oldfag credentials.

>>30966928
>>30967007
Honestly with Vesper on the team they've covered all their bases, they somehow managed to appeal to both twitter AND 4chan like it's nothing while even the most benign of western companies fucking melts just by the VERY suggestion of it.

>>30965027
>korean accent
>asmr
what do you burgerfags have for ears?

>>30968032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gflob5S7z0
Compare Astel's normal voice to 1:00 when he starts talking like Regis.

>>30965027
Bro how the fuck am I meant to read this
I literally cant fathom who that question is directed at

>>30965027
Cover scouting department did it again, sieved through the trash to find the hidden pearls, the only department that still works in the company

>>30965281
>>30969337
Reddit spacing to help you

>>Hire a Korean
>Voice is literally always on ASMR
>Also a good singer
>Best model

>>Hire a half Korean half Taiwanese
>Carried by mag memes
>Can draw
>Best intro
>RM was very popular. Even cosplayed in his RM.
>Once tried to be a literal male flesh idol and failed. Hence applied for Holostars instead of Niji.

>>Hire a half Japanese half Hong Kong Aussie
>Can speak Japanese like a native
>Really good at siging

>>Hire a 35 year old literal who
>Lowest subs and CCV at debut
>Eventually mogs everyone with the most subs and highest superchat
>Fubuki appeared in his chat in his second stream
>Just Chatting
>Just Chatting
>Just Chatting
>So many holo girls like Risu randomly appear in his chat
>Even Miss dyke Kronii couldn't resist herself

>>30965027
Absolutely fatherless behavior

Love this gang of retards.

>>30969639
>Once tried to be a literal male flesh idol
What does this mean? Like actual k-pop idol?

>>30965027
Because he's full of passion and SOUL and is actually grateful to even be there, unlike 3/4s of the EN branch. Also his tastes are obscelenly based.

>>30970244
The only fatherless behavior is from the last EN bitches.
And Watame.

>>30970646
Dunno. Before joining Holostars he once said "I once tried to be an idol but failed". You can interpret it any way.

>>30970737
>>30970646
See >>30966409. Though not actually sure about it.

>>30965027
>All those praises from Holofags
>All of them are retards who can't take care of their fangirls, and thus, are nothing compared to their competitor
How did they do it? Roru

>>30965027
>Holo ID
>Hire a bunch of JP vtubers wannabe for the 1st gen
>Failed to attract their intended audiences
>Hire a bunch of English speaking streamers for the 2nd gen despite not from EN
>Failed and keep declining
>Hire a literal child who act like locals and speaking in local languages
>Instant success and keeps inclining

I think we are seeing a pattern here

>>30965524
He's black who sounds white.

>>30970419
>Tails Get Trolled
Kino might actually watch Tempus now

>>30965936
>doesn't stream
>stream times at 5 am burger time

>>30966360
So he's the Kiara of Tempus?

>>30965818
>EN finally got their hagtuber, but he's male
Eh, I'll take it.

>>30965524
Vesper is black (noir)
It's canon

>>30975385
Unlike Kiara, Axel is a good singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvSKHYzB82M

>>30969439
idk how the fucked up so bad with Council and then hit gold with ID3 and Tempus

>>30965027
Wasn't Axel the most literally who before debut? Everyone knew who Vesper was almost right away along with Magni. Meanwhile it took forever (figuratively and relatively speaking) to find out where the fuck they got Axel. Love they did the digging, though. Love that man.

>>30975385
He’s the Bae of Tempus, even she noticed the similarities.

>>30969337
>>30969439

>>30965027
Yet they still get mogged by a bunch of faggots acting like faggots for Asian women.

>>30972023
To me it didn't seem like a joke or maybe we are talking about different streams. After that he went on talk about vtubers and idol culture and how they actually became real idols unlike him. Some in the chat even jokingly spammed "You should join holostars", and he actually did.

>>30965027
Don’t you ever call Kronii that again you faggot.

>>30975949
I swear as time goes, I become more and more convinced that he came from an alternate dimension where Bae has a dick.

>>30976055
Calling someone lesbian in hololive is not an insult.

>>30966647
I like northerlion but he actively has shit on Japanese culture a ton and doesn’t like Japanese people so it’s not a suprise people would hate him here

>>30976200
I don't watch bae, is she braindead? Because Axel has a brain like a cueball. Love the guy though

>>30976663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFLL5djquKA
She's pretty dumb

>>30965027
>Regis
>Also a good singer
I actually don't think Regis is a good singer at all. However, he does have an amazing voice and with proper training I think he could be great. He just needs to improve his technique.

I'd imagine it's probably quite hot for fujos to know a lot of the younger anons here are starting to develop feelings for an older father-like figure.

>>30965524
Vesper is gray, he predates when humans gained the ability to see color.

>>30970419
Magni is now required to read tails gets trolled. Can't wait for him to get to Eggman's rape dungeon.

>>30966356
He actually seems like he has very little life experience for 35

>>30966647
I don't watch flesh streamers.

>>30965524
he is a green fat bastard

>>30979098
try
again

>>30979228
He was an office drone that has done nothing but nerd shit as a pastime his entire life.

thats why people here relate to him

>>30978544
He's unironically better than Axel. Axel is pretty bad.

Vesper has the buff being the closest to a regular person and not a one-man creative enterprise

>>30979228
Really the only thing that barred him from any further experience to people his age is his dead end IRL job and not being a party slut. Even then, his job gave him a chance to play at a PGA tournament level golf course for free.

>>30979544
Nah, Axel is very good. His karaoke was very scuffed though. Hopefully he is more prepared when he does his next one.

>>30976200
Hayko wasn't a joke, he was an omen. The April Fools stream summoned him into reality.

>>30975336
Vesper drew these on stream

>>30965027
watch
streams

>>30979842
Axel sings with his throat and sounds strained most of the time. I wouldn't call him good. I wouldn't even call him decent. They're both pretty bad, but if I had to pick between the two then Altare is the better one.

>>30979228
because you're an idiot who has dumb expectations of what "life experience" is supposed to mean. also do your reps.

How does vesp have so many showing up in his chats

What’s his secret

>>30965027
I've not bothered to keep up with Tempus' doxx, so wait a minute, at least 3 out of the 4 are confirmed asian rm's?
Hahaha, holy shit, poor white guys...

I knew there was a curious over-representation of people with asian ethnicity in "english" vtubing in general already (for example, Hololive "English" has had 5 asian ethnic rm's, Nijisanji "English" has even more), but what causes this discrepancy? Is it self-selection bias, like for example asians having a higher proportional affinity for weeb culture (that serves as an entry point to wanting to become a vtuber in the first place) than western whites, so it's just a function of different demographic interests?

Like for example, even though ethnic asians make up maybe only around 5 percent of the population in NA, because they are more interested in vtubing than other groups, they are over-represented in the NA vtuber pool relative to their position in the general population and end making up that around a third to almost half of NA vtubers turn out to be ethnically asians.

>>30965027
He's to old for fans to suspect romance when girls interact with him

>>30966341
His lower stream count is also due to the fact he's already recording a second cover

>>30981955
I think its two different phenomenons.
>There are just more asians doing this in general
>In Nijisanji's case, chinese managers favor their own

>>30967007
Bullshit, he is far too mature and reasonable to be /here

>>30982549
He's more like a child's idea of what a mature and reasonable adult is than an actual mature and reasonable adult

>>30975834
No one outside of /vt thinks that council is bad

>>30982549
I don't remember him personally posting on /wvt/ even once. He was sometimes discussed and I guess he had /here/ friends though so you could classify him as adjacent.

>>30980595
Maybe it is bad technique on their part but they seem to have low singing stamina. In contrast it felt like the Holo girls were able to go through 10+ songs right out of the gate iirc

>>30981955
Myth has only one Asian - Ina, who is Korean. This was the first EN branch and they definitely didn't show any favoritism. I think because they have more Asian vtubers from the West more of them end up getting selected in auditions.
Niji definitely favours asians due to Paul Li.

>>30981955
White men are usually too busy going indie and either giving up at 2views or become content and go the way of guys like Basil and nyanners BF.

>>30982745
I did a short trek through the archive. Didn't find any self posting, but I must say the search results for his name are hilarious in retrospective.

>>30983289
How do you even identify self posting?

>>30983392
Some indies on /wvt/ openly admit being themselves while posting, while posting their channel or answering questions or whatever. Sure, he could post while anonymous (and there's no way he's not at least aware of us he named the site and drew a TGT meme), but then the guy that initially claimed he posts here would have been making it up with no basis.

>>30981955
Asians in Asia are legitimately more racist to other races, so they are more likely to choose people who look like them. There's also the fact that the Japanese don't care about diversity quotas unlike white countries who always need to have the token gay black man

>>30978994
Underrated post

If you sign up for being a hololive fan, you will be relentlessly assaulted by endless shill posts trying to push males on you

>>30975548
Worked in the trades all my life and the best times are just kicking back a beer with an older coworker telling you life stories or the hell they raised in the shop when they were your age

>>30981955
Asian company hires Asians, it's not rocket science. My brother works for a US company and he's the only Asian on the sales team, everyone else was white.

>>30967037
>Don't worry, only zoomers think 35 is old.
Cope.
That's like the latest you're supposed to have kids, then you will look like grandpa next to them, not to mention possible birth defects because the age stuff applies to fathers as well.
Having a place to raise them is important, so you have to bring serious cash early or take a mortgage early, so you could pay it off before you retire.
The modern world merely gives you an illusion of freedom, Being a lone nerd is only a choice if you're some sort of genius who is dedicated to his craft. Anything less will have people ridicule you for being a loser.

>>30983939
Implying that the only reason white company hires non white is diversity quota lmao. Every race is racist as fuck.

>Vesper fucks your oshi
>What do you do????


Thank him and buy him some rubbers for next time.

>>30987155
Also, before anyone goes "muh fuck the normie opinion". Your biological clock will start wondering if you didn't fuck up something. Many of us go hard into waifus for a reason.
>inb4 muh 3dpd
sour grapes

Is the Taiwanese half why Magni is a fucktoy built for cock instead of an oppa Chad like Altare? Inquiring minds need to know

>>30987513
Altare literally sounds like a faggot.

>>30987643
Altare once pumped and dumped a girl just to eat her dad's chili anon

>>30965818
>Fully functioning adult buff
>>30966356
>old man buff with lots of life experience
>>30975548
>>EN finally got their hagtuber,
I'm older than all of them, supposedly, but I've got the life experience of a 13 year old. At least I have fearsome wizard powers. I'm still going to get into starsEN gen 2, though, just you wait.

>>30983939
>Japanese don't care about diversity quotas unlike white countries who always need to have the token gay black man
ironic given the rrats about vesper's RM

>>30987683
Chili is an euphemism for cum anon

>>30987800
Chili is a euphemism for cucking the dad and making oyakodon anon

>>30966647
I believe NL is Regis's oshi

>>30975938
I'm still in awe that Axel was doxxed because he had one really dedicated gachikoi that sperged out on Twitter when he debuted.

Must feel insane see your oshi actually make it.

>>30965936
Down Under debuff

>good at singing
I forgot how retarded and uncultured this place is.

ANIME WOMEN ARE FOR ORCISH COCK
It's that simple

>>30990159
If only they'd let him keep the model

>>30990555
I'm warming up to the vampire look but god that orc model was just so fucking perfect

>>30978989
doesn't even make any sense
when he's literally me

>>30990745
You probably don't have The Voice anon

>>30990792
wym
I'm buttery smooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMvd66LKddk

>>30982709
source: my ass

>>30965027
Can't beat the chin

>>30982709
Niji EN certainly thinks council is bad.

>>30990649
the orc model really didn't match his voice, whereas a faggy vampire fits the lisp.

>>30991229
I disagree, the grumpy bara orc model with the nerdy lisp voice was gap moe

>>30965027
I keep telling you faggots that small streamers are where the SOUL is. Compare Gawr Gura, well known meme woman and queen of the empty schedule, and Iluna, muh numbers gen, to Zatsu King Noir. Vtubers who do it just to do it will always be more endearing than cynical whores.

>>30981955
How can us whitoids even compete...

>>30966360
Axel doesn't hide his power level and plays dumb when called out
>Puts a dick in his "Magni" creature in Spore
>Is considering being a "loli", "furry" or "shortstacks" on DND
> Suggested Regis should play a fairy on the DND discussion as well
>Plays Hitman like an FPS, killing everyone on the way

Mind you I don't even watch him, so this is just surface area shenannigans.

>>30970737
I interpreted that as
>I tried launching a e-celeb career but it didn't work out

>All of them below 5 after not even a month
>2 of them below 2k
>Gen song barely any views
The ebtire gen is a giant waste of money and could have paid for council outfits

>>30991731
>Waste of money
My dude if Stars JP can have almost universal 3view status for years and still be seen as a worthwhile investment I'm pretty sure Tempus is turning a profit for Cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ioRWlG9PBQ

Tempus

>>30990989
Yes, that's most of /vt's explanation for why they consider council to be a failure

>>30965027
>how
I feel like he's good at keeping a straight face. His nerdy voice matches his nerdy model. Fubuki loves glasses. When he's just there in project zomboid looting the zombies of underwear, sticking to the theme, it works well. He's cring like gura but unlike gura he owns the cring and keeps going, while she feels immense shame like when fauna reminded her of her shahahahahark meme. Oji-sans and hags. I feel like nijien's one strength is that it has a couple of hags like Elira and Nina.

>>30966647
Because NL plays the same game for like 5 years in a row. Its interesting seeing him start something new but he milks the shit out of a game before looking for a new one.

>>30983565
Honestly, it's not that hard to imagine a troll would want to impersonate a vtuber on 4chan

>>30965027
old man energy and old person farts

>>30965027
He's entertaining and likable. I don't care for Axel or Altare (I enjoy some Magboi) but Vesper is easily the most entertaining. I checked out his PL and if I knew about it earlier I would have watched him too. Genuinely gave me some good laughs. I'm happy for him such a great guy.

>>30983565
he was very involved in the vtubing scene and he was marketing himself on pretty much every social media platform, it's not unreasonable to think he might have posted once or twice /here/

>>30966968
>>30966826
Luna is into holding piss. Ew

>>30990649

the orc model was so out of the norm/unique that i genuinely think its part of the reason he got into holo

>>30965524
he's blasian

AS ALWAYS, dudes rock, hoes wilin. they're basically a perfect vtuber group and they've done nothing wrong and made no mistakes since their debut. the only things even close to yabs in their periphery are exclusively the fault of the whores trying to drag them down. frankly it's been a huge wakeup call for me reminding me of why i hate women.

>>31001834
now try to say that without their dicks in your mouth

>>30965027
Nigger im not fucking reading all of that

>>30965524
Hes African American

>>30995983
It had a similar appeal to Virtual Gorilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx5hoMw59nc

>>30982463
>>In Nijisanji's case, chinese managers favor their own
Doesn't make sense when the majority of the NijiEN Asians are SEA

>black vesper memes
where did this rrat come from?

>>31012031
Entirely from the fact that he's a male streamer that doesn't sound like he got his jewels kicked back up into their cavity as a shota

who was magni's roommate?

just a crumb of handholding please

>>30965027
Vesper is passionate about things and comes across as extremely genuine. Women love cute ojisans, no need to fujo or yumejo pander.

>>30965027
He has the older guy vibe, just chilling and keeping to himself and being generally nice and just a good lad. Older men who are stable and are very chill tend to be liked by just about everyone. You never had a cool older guy you liked? Aruran is pretty much the same except he's JP only so you'd never know.

>>30979228
Anon what are you talking about

>>31015367
Anime professor who draws on a whiteboard

>>31016529
So could the reverse of that work? Someone who is old and has life experience but acts childish.

>>30966647
NL over time has gotten more "accountant" in his worldview, tone, and tastes and having a kid tired him out.
Go back and watch his early stuff some of it is putting on a persona for youtube but he was younger once and way more energetic.

>>31012031
He had a friend as a kid who broke and stole shit.
/vt/ immediately associated that with being black as you do.

>>30966647
NL is way too tryhard condescending acting like he is a super genius but not even in a funny way imo. I think people are just watching him because it’s “cool” and esoteric, kind of like how jerma was before he really boomed in popularity.

>>30965027
>Taiwanese
>Hong Kong
They are chinks, that's the word you are looking for.

>>30979228
The audience are fujos and homocels, so the only experience they care about is otaku shit and internet memes.

>>30981955
Hololive is an Asian-supremasist organization. The only exception is Calli, but she plays into the stereotype of the attractive but confused American.

>>30975548
close enough

>>31021682
They are the better Chinese.
I reserved chink, zhang, and all the other slangs for the mainland Xi cock suckers

>>31022125
>only exception is Calli
Ina is the only Asian in Myth.

>>31022221
They are Chinks. The actual Taiwanese natives are the Formosan, while the descendants of the Hong Kong founding fathers are called Triads members.

>>30966346
Axel: opens his mouth and you discover he had the real model debuff the whole time.
I can't take him syriously with that dog shit rigging.

>>31022291
The point is that Calli receives preferential treatment over everyone else in HoloEN, even above Irys.

>>30990649
the orc model was very good, but when he starts talking about expensive tea, golf, etc, the current one fits perfectly...

>>30967037
In these circles? 35 is absolutely old. Next you'll be telling me only zoomers think 35 is old in the NBA.

>>31022692
No she does not retard.

>>31023786
35 is old in any sports

>>30981955
bro no offense but wypipo who actually have asian language proficiency, an already incredibly narrow pool, are likely suffering from severe yellow fever and working in fields closer to typical wageslave jobs instead of hovering in this 2d entertainment limbo
whereas even chinks and gooks in the west are exposed to a lot of asian culture (which includes far less stigma for anime) and had a shortcut via growing up speaking chinese/korean/japanese/seaspeak, etc
it's simply a matter of numbers, and with this sort of background it's easier to pivot into vtubing compared to traditional weebs, who really have to go out of their way to end up here
all that to say i'm not surprised corpo rm's, even native english speakers, are at least bilingual in one of the above before they grinded the shit out of nip, if not having a direct nip blood tie

i think many people look at en branches and are subconsciously like, "wow vtubers really blew up even john smith is pretending to be a 2d ikemen", but the talent side remains much more skewed compared to the audience

>>31022568
The shitty rigging halfway adds to his charm, he looks like he's constantly barking like the dingo his is