/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Do what Kiara did

>>30967615
Get raped while wearing an Asuka cosplay?

>>30967569
I do not intend to pick up barbarism from the nations that do not acknowlege their war crimes till this date.

>>30967763
Live and let live. No good dwelling on the past, Anon.
Besides, Japan cute and has anime!

>>30967707
did... did that happen? or was this that wrestling thing?

>>30967980
Yes it on youtube and it’s hilarious

>>30967569
by learning japanese fucking retard

>>30967569
Literally just make note of the words they say the most and you'll understand anything that has visual context like games, but be fucked for zatsus

>>30967569
Read Genki for a basic foundation to start
Learn to read kanji from wanikani, doesn't matter if you forget some of their meaning, the main thing is you learn their pronunciations so your brain has something to work with - if you can't even pronounce what you're seeing its like trying to scale a mountain by climbing air
Learn grammar from bunpro or Tae Kim or whatever
You don't necessarily have to use paid resources but it makes your brain go into sunk-cost fallacy mode and value stuff from there better

>>30967569
I was born half Japanese.

First step: Learn basic grammar like articles
Second step: Learn how to formulate phrases
Third step: Change all your media to japanese
Fourth step: Increase your vocabulary

In 6 months you should already be better than Mori

>>30968668 (me)
Sorry, the first step is "Learn Hiragana and Katakana".
For Kanji it's really not worth learning each of them between they all have too many different meanings. Learning vocabulary is better than learning kanji by kanji.

>>30967615
livestream myself dancing on NND?

>>30968265
you merely adopt japanese, i was born japanese

>>30967569
Unironically watch more anime with subs.
t. been a weeb for more than 10 years.

>>30968239
Bravo. Probably the only useful comment this thread will get.
>>30968256
>>30968668
Don't listen to any of these niggers. You just want to understand what the nip streamers are saying not become a professional writer or translator.

>>30967615
What did she do?

>>30967569
what I did is:
>memrise courses for hiragana, katakana, intro, N5 vocab / readings, N4 vocab / readings first
>read the entirety of Tae Kim's grammar guide
https://guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
>Anki with Japanese Core 2000 deck
>switch as much media as you can to Japanese (games, read manga raws that have the furigana to help, watch JP streams, etc.)
And that's pretty much it. I still go through Anki cards whenever I'm bored.
You don't need to learn how to write Kanji or anything imo. As long as you can recognize it, that's good enough since typing it on the computer brings up the kanji anyways.

I just watched so much anime that I can undertand around 85% of what japanese people say. The 15% that I don't understand is me missing some vocabulary.

What I do is imagine I understand japanese, and then post about whatever I think they said. If no one can disprove it, you're right. If they try to disprove it, they are incel cucks who cant handle the truth.

>>30967763
yet you speak english

>>30967569
I just watch streams without knowing Japanese and when I see a bunch of W's I start laughing like I get the joke.

>>30968792
This. Also Try to become an idol if possible

>>30967615
Sell my body?

>>30968265
Ywnbj

>>30970471
Doubled down and studied for 6 months.

>>30970562
Curuous, how long did this take you and were you a NEET or otherwise occupied during this period?

>>30970562
I'm pretty much on the same path, using https://learnjapanese.moe/guide/

- I started learning in Feb 2022.
- Grinded Hiragana and Katakana for a few weeks
- Started Tango N5 on Anki as soon as I was comfortable. Took about 3 months at 20 new cards a day.
- Started Tango N4 on Anki as soon as I ran out of new cards on N5. Took about another 3 months at 10 new cards a day
- Midway, started a Core 2k deck from https://anacreondjt.gitlab.io/docs/coredeck/ so I can study vocab on my phone. Got through 1972 words in about 4 months
- Try to read RAWs on nhentai when I want to jerk off


I do Anki almost every day (only missed 1 day since started, I was too high on shrooms). Nhentai is probably the most practical use I've gotten from understanding moon runes. I try to read news articles that pop up on my google feed but there's a ton of words that I still don't understand and don't recognize.

It's just more grinding from here on out.

>>30978132
When I started, Anki would take me about an hour and a half every day to go through the new cards and reviewing old/forgotten cards.

Nowadays, it takes around 30-40 minutes, depending on how familiar I am with the word or if I bother to read/listen to the entire sentence before moving on from a card.

>>30967569
Just watch a lot of anime
This isn't a joke

>>30979040
>Nhentai is probably the most practical use I've gotten from understanding moon runes.
based coomer

>>30967569
texthooked visual novels and used yomichan

>>30971546
Holy Retard...

I focused on learning to read, understanding by listening kind of came naturally with it. I don't know how you'd do it the other way around. Also I didn't learn for vtubers, I learned for manga and games years ago, plus I was just bumbling around on my own and not following any established method or sequence.

I memorized katakana and hiragana (pretty much already knew it from years of being a weeb) then learned grammar from Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese (it's a website, google it). For kanji I used James Heisig's Remembering the Kanji, literally just found a pdf of the first volume online, never bothered with further volumes. Then I just dove into some text heavy games that I wanted to read through, painstakingly translating them for myself. Whenever I ran into a kanji I didn't know I'd look it up through a method like SKIP code or just stroke count and add it to my notes with Heisig-style reminders so I could reference it next time I ran into it.
I found it most useful to have both text and audio for practice, so games that are fully voiced or anime with Japanese captions were great.

>>30967569
watch countless of JP videos, JP streamers and subbed anime. Eventually you'll get a grasp of common words and phrases

>>30967569
For me it was like this. That's a lot to read but I hope some of it helps you, anon. Ganbare.

Before vtubers:
- Learned kana really early on plus learned basics of the basics of grammar so I could at least look at sentences and have a very rough understanding if the words are nouns or verbs or adjectives, get a broad picture like "this says do a thing please" or "this asks about something that's a noun" or "these are just noises" (many such cases in eroge).
- Watched a lot of anime with subs for years. You can't leave it completely in the background, you have to listen at least somewhat actively. Just by doing this you get a lot of vocabulary and some basic expressions. Songs also helped immensely, I mean it. I listened to a lot of vocaloid and anisongs and I always looked up the lyrics side by side with translations.
- Tried different textbooks but I can't concentrate for shit. The only things I can comment on are Tae Kim's guide (you don't have to read all of it at once, first 10% are already helpful) and Cure Dolly videos (RIP, can't recommend her enough, her explanations are toddler level and they make everything click, just filter her clickbaity boomer talk about all textbooks lying to you).
- Learned some very basic kanji with wanikani but didn't go far with it.

When I discovered vtubers (and I still do these):
- Installed Yomichan extension and started reading all of their tweets, video descriptions and community posts. This gets you some vocabulary of basic words and expressions related to vtubing really quick.
- Started watching streams right away, didn't rely on clips. Instead of listening passively I at least tried to make out some words and expressions I know and try to guess the meaning. There are also JP clips, a lot of them have JP subs as well.
- When I have time, I look up new words on Jisho. First I had to get used to pronunciation enough to be able to type out the word even if I didn't know it. Now it goes like this: I hear a sentence which mostly makes sense but has an unfamiliar word, I search for this word on Jisho and instantly get all of its primary meanings and writings.
- I can't write for shit, only in kana and I struggle to make a coherent sentence without machine translations. However, I don't agree that you don't need to read either. Being able to read helps IMMENSELY. After some time you can read some tweets without Yomichan because you memorized how certain words look and kana is a nobrainer, or if the chuuba is playing a game or writing something on the screen text can help you to understand even if you didn't get enough information from listening. And vice versa, the stream can have some text that you can't read but chuuba helps by reading it out loud, also happens with song lyrics in MVs.
- I never deliberately studied kanji besides some first free wanikani levels but over time I memorized some of them that are used often, so when a word has one of those I can at least read half of it and often get an idea about the meaning. Example: 自動, jidou (automatic). Over time I memorized 自 because it's used in jibun (self) and 動 because it's used in undou (movement), so 自動 just kinda clicked by default. Add to that 感動 - kandou (emotion, passion), used super often, we already know the second kanji, and the first kanji is used in other popular word 感謝 kansha (gratitude) etc, the list goes on. Over time words that are used often get memorized even though I'm not specifically studying them.

>>30983295
Forgot some stuff about songs, you can use JP karaoke videos, I mean the ones that are instrumentals with lyrics to sing along. Most of them have furigana so you should be fine with just kana. At first I really struggled even with the slowest songs because it was impossible to read lyrics in time, now I'm fine with most songs excluding the fastest ones which I can't sing anyway, lol.

>>30968265
Where did the other half go? I hope you find it one day. Praying for you.

>>30967569
I listened to and read a lot of Japanese.
I can't find any speaking partners and would also find it awkward to try so I never actually practiced speaking.

>>30967763
t. Kronii

>>30967569
I watched holocraft, mikoARK and anything hololive for an entire year for 12-16h everyday as a lonely hikkineet.
Still can't remember a single moonrune but can handle any collab. You should try it

>>30967569
You don't need to know every word to understand Japanese.
I can't speak Korean well, but I can understand most of what people say to me.
You just catch like 50% of the words and with the context you can tell what they're saying

>>30967569
You fucking learn Japanese.
This is not going to take you weeks or a few months.
Learning a language, especially one so different than your natives one will take years. Don't expect less unless you literally make it your job , study 8+ hours every day and speak with natives/tutors.
Then maybe you can cut it down to just one year.

>>30968738
i don't understand how to learn vocab, it feels like i have to learn each individual sentence rather than learning rules....

Play eroge

>>30978132
I did that over the course of like.. since 2016?
Very casually though, I could be N2 by now if I tried harder

>>30978132
>>30991433
also no not NEET, I was in university and now full time employed

>>30967569
Japanese is an extremely easy to comprehend language. It has like half the vowels of English and no consonant clusters. All you need to do is learn grammar (admittedly a little tricky) and vocabulary and you'll understand spoken Japanese in no time. Unlike something like French where you can take 8 years of classes and still not understand what the living fuck is coming out of the mouth of a native speaker

>>30968239
Anon if you're here this is literally the only good advice and is the reason I could understand a lot of japanese as a teenager

>>30967569
超自閉症になる‼ (^o^)

>>30990629
learning vocab is just grinding the words over and over again until it becomes second nature in your brain. sentences help give context to the word you're learning and acts as anchors where you may have forgotten how to say a word but know the surrounding words to help jog your memory.

the Tango decks do this alot since they have a lot of sentence cards that use the same kanji then have one-offs that are easy to forget after you havent seen it for a month or so.

i still mess up the following kanji 被, 破, 波, 彼 but seeing it used in a sentence helps.

>>30991492
Yes Japanese is objectively simpler than English and French(without writting) but what also makes Japanese hard is that it's very a really unique language that has nothing in common with europeans language and it's what makes it one of the harder language in the world
I'm a frog and I learn English just by reading manga that wasn't translate in French and watching videos in English and I'm pretty sure I can learn a language like Spanish or Italian in less than 3 months
On the other hand It's been 7 months since I started learning Japanese and it's definitively 20x times harder despite the fact that I was already able of understand a lot of Japanese
Now I think I can understand around 80% of a streams if it's a solo stream and read manga with a dictionary

>>30967763
Yet you speak English

>>30970471
Livestreams on NND dumping JP comments into Google Translate and replying in Japanese.

Probably won't work for you, you need to be an underaged girl to find an audience babbling in a language you barely speak.

>>30980537
you?

>>30983295
tyvm

>>30967569
Do your reps