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REINE 16K GETTOOOOOO
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>43,807: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>35,336: Noel (Hololive)>29,882: Miko (Hololive)>28,812: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>23,586: Flare (Hololive)>19,318: Miko (Hololive)>18,608: Koyori (Hololive)>17,774: Flare (Hololive)>16,769: Moona (Hololive)>15,649: Luna (Hololive)>14,813: Towa (Hololive)>14,141: Watame (Hololive)>13,717: Baelz (Hololive)>13,708: Koyori (Hololive)>13,701: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)>13,314: Mio (Hololive)>12,120: Luna (Hololive)>12,062: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>12,060: Met (774 Inc.)>11,780: Ame (Hololive)>11,691: Korone (Hololive)>11,687: Polka (Hololive)>11,428: Ren (Nijisanji)>11,376: Laplus (Hololive)>11,208: IRyS (Hololive)>11,108: Runa (VSPO)>10,601: Ars (Nijisanji)>10,188: Ema (VSPO)>10,153: Saegusa (Nijisanji)
ANYA 16KREINE 16KINDOCHADS?!
>>30939259*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY *>13,717: Baelz (Hololive)>11,411: Ren (Nochairsanji)>11,188: IRyS (Hololive)>10,918: Amelia (Hololive)>5,636: Sonny (Nochairsanji)>5,283: Selen (Nochairsanji)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 10Nochairsanji - 5Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Vox, Kronii, Luca, Elira, Baelz>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 23Gura: 15Mysta: 9Shu: 9Luca: 9Ike: 8Fauna: 8Elira: 8Kronii: 7Baelz: 7Vox: 5Alban: 4Noir: 3Rosemi: 3Selen: 3Mori: 3Ren: 3Amelia: 2Axel: 1Ina: 1Kiara: 1Magni: 1IRyS: 1
>>30939416>Ame buff>Ina buff
>>30939336Oh no, uproar was a failure? Even by holostar standards?
>>30939336I still can't understand what happened to Uproar and what was their intention, the only one that brought anything new to the branch is Gamma and numbers show, even with that he's still way lower than most of the older members
Is this Minecraft event is to celebrate an Indoor holiday?
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>16,769: Moona (Hololive)>13,717: Baelz (Hololive)>11,411: Ren (Nijisanji)>11,188: IRyS (Hololive)>10,918: Amelia (Hololive) *Z: 11,780*>8,742: Zeta (Hololive)>6,303: Anya (Hololive)>6,058: Iofi (Hololive)>5,636: Sonny (Nijisanji) *Z: 6,327*>5,283: Selen (Nijisanji)>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nijisanji) – 25,830 (Nijisanji Koshien B League Watchalong)14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 36,531 (Nijisanji Koshien Finals Watchalong)15. Moona (Hololive) - 16,769 (Minecraft HoloID CUP Rules)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 11Nijisanji – 4>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii, Luca, Elira, Moona>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 7Nijsanji - 8>SILVER PER STREAMER3x: Shu1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Reine, Elira, Anya, Mori, Baelz>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 10Nijsanji - 5>BRONZE PER STREAMER3x: Kobo1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen, Mumei, Reine, Ren
IRyS...
>>30939547YesThey are unironic 2view. Literally all the previous StarJP gen were 3view at worst
>>30939570Come on, it's pretty close to 60k combine.
>>30939600Independence Daytheir 4th of july I think
I knew, but I'm disappointed Z-tally anon didn't keep up with it.
>>30939547>>30939584NTA, but yes. I think 3 out of 4 Uproars are at the bottom of StarsJP, which is impressive considering how low the bar already is.
>>30939600yeah indog independence day
>>30939547Uyu... I mean Gamma has the Illustrator buff(Illustration dependent) and Rio recently upped his ccv by a little margin due to the Magni interactions.
>>30939259HOLO EVENTS:August 16 Omaru PolkaAugust 17 Murasaki ShionAugust 18 Holo Summer liveAugust 19 Shirogane Noel New OutfitAugust 20 Ookami MioAugust 23 Hololive English -Council-August 25 Holo Summer liveAugust 26 Holo Summer liveAugust 27 Holo Summer liveAugust 28 Holo Summer liveAugust 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer liveAugust 31 Holo Summer live
>>30939600No, it's to celebrate an outdoor holiday. It's to celebrate Indo's independence day.
I'm still baffled by Iluna, like how the hell are they unable to hold onto debut buff for at least 1 week?
>>30939547uproar can still be saved if they collab with tempus.
>>30939625She is a retard but I love her
>>30939547Two of them are basically nonexistent, that Gamma guy at least gets good SC for a Holostar and occasionally good ccv when he draws, and Rio does lots of collabs with people like Ollie. Overall they failed to even move the needle even a little bit for the branch.
>>30939625You got mogged by a hag.
>>3093971916) holo gold (Polka anniversary)17) holo gold (Shion anniversary)18) holo gold (Holo summer live)19) holo gold (Noel costume)20) holo gold (Mio birthday/gen 3 collab noel)21) ??22) niji gold (Toya birthday)23) ??24) ??25) holo gold (Holo summer live)26) niji gold (Koshien 2022 exhibition match)27) holo gold (gen 3 collab pekora)28) holo gold (Holo summer live)29) ??30) holo gold (Holo summer live)31) holo/niji gold (Fuwa last morning radio/Holo summer live)holo summer (stream or premiere)18 stream, 25 stream, 28 stream, 30 stream, 31 streamniji noon (guests/performers dependant)15 - 19, 22 - 26niji 24 hrs karaoke relay27 - 28
>>30939630Oohhh that sucks, uck
>>30939675>>30939690>>30939733That's cool. I guess they want to share their culture to the world.
>>30939817last year>AUGUST1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachiAugust 1 - 15>holo 5>niji 9August 16 - 31>holo 10>niji 5total>Holo: 15>Nijisanji: 14>Indie: 2
Has anyone seen filian's YouTube growth? Absolutely insane right now at 7-8k subs per DAY!
>>30939600When is the outdoor holiday?
>>30939630>Uproar are 4 UyusThis is how you sound right now.
>>30939739I have no idea how seriously I should take the doxxsite comments as sentiments towards NijiEN talents (some of the posters there are from /here/ anyways and this place is schizo central), but it seems like it's either ambivalence or anti comments.I'm reading Ren's page rn and he's getting roasted in almost every comment. People either shitting on him about how he's a collab baby or how he has 0 social awareness and can't read the room.
>Reine 17k gettoThanks 35Ps
>>30939936When they go outside instead of playing games all day
>>30939911Gura buff
>>30939416RISING
>>30939838Honestly it's not that diferent to JP doing JP holiday stream>Golden Week >Tanabata Festival
>>30939953Forgot pic.It's almost all comments shitting on him from luxiemsisters
>>30939739What if... they are still keeping their debut buff?
>>30939953When it comes to Niji's you can generally take the opinions of the doxx site at face value since they're made by sisters and that's the target demo. Plus they actually watch streams as evidenced by them using the doxx comment sections as a live chat lolYou just can't trust the site whatsoever when it comes to holos because people get WAY to fucking schizo and passionate.
>>30939911I browsed through her channel, I can see why, she got shorts with 100k to 2million views
>>30939953>>30940095I'm fascinated by the idea that Luxiem could potentially create a viewership block that is actively hostile towards future NijiEN additions rather than simply ambivalent towards them.
>>30940047It feels a little different. They invited the other branches for this event. It always feels like HoloID wants people to know about Indonesia
>>30940208Noctyx already got hit hard with that due to them being presented as 'rivals' to Luxiem lore wise
nijisanji viewbots
why is this event so fast bros
Team anya mogged hard out there...
>>30940357Autistic minds made the schedule
>>30940208I don't think they're hostile because they're threatened for Luxiem's sake, it's like the Mythfags here who hate on Council for being "flops". Their way of expressing frustration at disappointing new blood, eventho in this case, I do think the disappointment towards iLUMA is a hell more justifiable than towards Council.
>>30940095Why is that doxxsister giving Maria condolences? I'm not paying attention, did Maria get a shitty fanbase?
>>30939259Ritsuko sex>>30939314Chihaya sexGoodbye retards
>>30940171To be fair the Holos have like 200 comments at most while Luxiem has like 30,000. It's insane.
>>30940208I think it is just mostly Ren. I don't watch nijiEN at all but I still feel like what he is doing is scummy at best.
>>30939838Independence day is the only festival that Indos can celebrate together with everyone, the other holidays are tied to particular religions or cultures, and there are like hundreds of different cultures and at least six religions not including animism. So if the IDs wants to make an event unique to Indonesia, this is the time.
>>30940416Don't watch her, but I guess she got the woofers or something like that?
>>30940357They should've buffered events with some time to explain what they are, how they work, etc. while at the same time giving the girls time to interact as a group since that's half the appeal of these kinds of events.Instead they optimized the schedule for maximum streamlined activities by putting all the explanations into a separate video. It was basically an overcorrection to all the dead air in the sports fest.
>>30939739Niji EN already reached point of diminishing returns with their audience. 26 people. People look at the new ones and think "I already watch too many people to bother with these". Maria is successful because she streams at fucking 2 AM when no one else is and she's most like the existing talents.
>>30940412Councilnigger typed this post.
>>30940416You should go on the site and read some of the comments yourself, it's pretty fucking funny.Just start googling Ren's japanese name and it's the 2nd or 3rd suggested addition and one of the top google searches.The sisters did NOT enjoy the Mario Party collab last night.
>>30940450I've seen plenty of hostility towards Aia as well.
>>30939911She feels almost completely outside vtubing. Not quite to the Code Miko/Nimu level, but close.
>>30940582Wait what? I thought the collab got 13k ccv?
>>30940416>>30940528She got an ex-holo audience. You guys should know how cancerous they are
Reine has more viewers than Moona. JP tourist are too strong.
>>30940582What was so bad about it?
Why are they celebrating Indonesian Independence when life under the Dutch would have been better for all parties involved?
>JP does an independence day stream>ID does an independence day streamWhy does EN do a 4th of July stream?
>>30939584The worst part about Uproar is that management is intent on separating them from Gen 1-3. Not only is it confirmed that they’re not participating in the stars upcoming concert (even as opening remarks), Astel mentioned that Uproar’s management shot down his proposal to have a duet with each of the Uproar members
>>30940669Isn't she a VR Chat Youtuber?
>>30940733Because of freedom, am i right Indochad ?
>>30940420Yeah and that's what i mean when I say they're the target demo. Like just straight by the numbers there's gonna be a larger portion of Nijis' viewers there vs holos. And with the comments specifically there's so many they don't get completely derailed by one schizo like with the holos
>>30940735EN are not American-only
>>309407354th of July is what? Canadian or Australian Indepedence day?
>>30940735Not all of EN is from the United States, lol.
>>3094066711k, which is a disappointment considering single POV and the guests. Mysta could get 11k on a split POV of a Mario Party collab.>>30940725Sisters don't like Risotto.
>>30939941Kek even during his worst month (which is June) Uyu wasn't a 2view.That retard you're replying to was just pulling out terms out of his ass without even knowing the data.
>>30940733I rather die then become dutch
>>30940733Fuck off, Van Der Kock
>>30940642It's just the same hostility as here and even the Niji EN thread "What is the point of Aia?" "Why did they hire her?" Also her and Scarle are Luxiem fangirls and they don't like that.
>>30940725Some actual sister opinions
>>30940772She does some normal streams but yes she's mostly know as a VR chat streamer.
>>30940863>a nigger defending RenDamn that is lower than doxxsisters. Tbh Ren just didn't put his heart into vtubing. All his actions right now are fishing for new bloods into his rm's channel
>>30940735>thinking EN means North AmericaTypical Amerimutt mindset.
>>30940743My guess is that they thought the "HoloStar" brand is an impossible to overcome debuff, so they tried to disassociate them from the branch both in name and relations so that they could get a new audience more willing to watch males.If that was what happened, it didn't work as intented
>>30940978Damn even braindead doxxsisters noticed that he is just Nina2.0, or even worse.
>>30940743Uproar aimed for a new market which is school girls not 30s fujos but unfortunately all 4 of them are not really entertaining to make a different. Literally who in their right mind would play fucking P4Golden or Nier Replicant at 3AM? And multiple part at that ?
>>30940924>Also her and Scarle are Luxiem fangirls and they don't like thatThat is a problem with mixed branches. In hololive, being a fan of one of her senpais is always a buff
>>30940856>>30940861Maybe that's the problem. Gura, Ame, Mori, Fauna, and Mumei are all American and they're the best ones in the branch by far. Maybe they should exclusively hire Americans.
>>30940978I feel like these people are the exact same people as the posters in the Niji EN thread. As soon as the collab was announced they were all immediately shitting on Ren as being part of it. It's not 1:1 but I would guess this site is 75% overlap with /vt/ at least for the English speakers.
Holobros, how do we save the ID big event?
>>30941080>school girlsWhat kind of contents do young girls like nowadays anyway?
>>30941100Yeah they definitely talk like they're from here and they can't stop talking about numbers too so they might be in /#/ too.
>>30940735>EN will never be able to have events like this because they're all from different countries>can't even have an anglo celebration day like boxing day or something cause >>>>>>Kiara
Tempus clips get more views than their VODs
>>30940735Anything history related is too yab for EN apparently
>>30941179Tik Tok
>>30941214Kiara would celebrate anything
CAN'T BEAT FUWA MORNING STREAM LMAO
>>30941179Tik Tok.
>>30941082In Aia's tierlist today she didn't even know Elira's pet. That's the daisenpai of the branch. And it's not like she's ancient history like Sora or Mito, she debuted like a year before these people got hired, but they only give a shit about Luxiem.
>>30941222That's a Nodoka clip
>>30941084Might just be a coincidence, but it's something worth trying
>>30941112The organizer failed to communicate the mechanics for this one. Its confusing for the participants, too many questions
>>30941222Well, that works for literally everybody,
>>30941222nodoka clips, who cares about tempus
>>30941222Yes, that's usually how clips work. Are you new to this, sister?
>>30941234>>30941270So basically spams shorts after shorts on YT huh?
>>30941222nodoka buff
>>30940171So the same as /here/?
>>30941256Bruh, it's a combined 100k. Learn to read.
>>30941080I’d argue that Gamma at least stands out from the rest of Uproar because of his more hyperactive, Roberu-lite personality but yeah. Fuma and Rio are both at least trying to salvage themselves by collabing outside of stars with different chuubas like those from NijiKR
>>30941214Wasn't she talked (complained) about not being able to collab with anyone due to timezone (again) last stream?
>>30940735Huh, maybe that's it. Maybe that's why EN feels so distant compared to JP, ID, and Stars.
>>30939503Did Fauna really fucking get more than Bae on a last minute guerilla that started early and was a solo stream
zeta where?
>>30941100It's people who posted once or twice in /vt/ but then got filtered by people using faggotIf you read a few other comment sections you'll see /vt/ get brought up some time (or at least you'll see "go back" memes)
>>30941437Fauna was the waiting room for the ID event
>>30941430EN is an almagation of people from different countries unlike JP and IDThey were separated from the get go, culturally
>>30941100>the downvotes on any positive comments about himDefinitely from /here/
>>30941401If you're trying to save yourself by collabing with Nijisanji Korea something has gone terribly wrong along the way.
>>30941498Not to mention some of the girls hope they are Japanese. Ironically I like the contents of the girls that are trying to be Japanese.
>>30941301Seriosuly, this turned into a chatting stream just with everyone
>>30941498They could of used that for content.
>>30941112Get Kobo to say more than 2 sentences
>>30941558Why would any /here/ visit that place just to downvote some dumb comments?
>>30941589Gura...
>>30941341It really isn't. It takes viral clips to surpass VOD views for bigger streamers like Gura/Pekora/Miko/Kobo etc. And the less popular you are the less likely your clip has more views anyway. This homo clip is what we can consider a viral one since it has a "did this retard just admit he's horny for a holo" buff.
>>30941558>I hope you graduate after NinaDamn they really hate Nina huh. I thought Reimu is the most hated nijiEN by the sisters.
>>30941301They should explain this a week in advance seriously.
>>30941558>None of them mentioned his GF or called his fans cucksDefinitely not from .here/
>>30941498American and Canadian culture is virtually identical and Australia is not all that different either. Kiara and IRyS (although technically American, maybe) are the odd ones out.
>>30941082>In hololive, being a fan of one of her senpais is always a buffBae ... Ollie ... Kiwawa ...
>>30941644no one even cares about Reimu
>>30941641Yeah I like her contents too, so you get my point.
>>30941558I don't understand, if these are "chink fujos" why are they all speaking in zoomer/here slang? And in English to boot
the host for this MC is sucks desu, Mio and Miko miles better
Miko's voice stands out so much in this event, lol. You can hear it everywhere.
>>30941084>Ame and Mori
>>30941674I don't think Ren has many fujo/yume simps anon. His SCs are far worse than Noctyx's and it's been almost 3 weeks.Dude has like no gachis.
>>30941644They can't hate someone they forget exist.
>>30941637Not here as in /numbers/ but here as in they frequent this board.
>>30941701Kiara was definitely buffed when she was still in JP and was the EN Pekora's fan, though
>>30941360With Holos here you can at least get some conversation of numbers or content going. For instance you can at least make a post about Fauna or Mumei and it won't be totally impossible to have a conversation. At the very least you can come here to talk about themMeanwhile on the doxx site Fauna and Mumei's pages are boderline unusable.
>>30941412My rrat is that Kiara is gonna have sex with the lead talent scout for EN and try to get 1 or 2 of her European friends in EN to have people to collab with.
>>30941727Eh, it's a blessing in disguise that this happened. They were blazing through the events and needed something to slow it down.
>>30941719They are not chinkfujos. They are EOPfujos. Chinkfujos probably is not even dominant among the sisters but they get mentioned because they are the loudest in Luxiem's chat I think.
>>30941674Girls don't think like that. Although I have seen them slam him for fake fujo baiting. Even though what Luxiem does is also fake as hell, they somehow disregard that.
>>30941701Kiara stopped associating with Pekora years agoIf you want an example, look at Koyori, highest MH POV last night without Pekora POV, all she need to do was orbiting Pekora in Rust (Her gushing about Pekora-senpai was cute though)
>>30941719these are the sea audience based on their eslthe zhangs have their own board on weibo, b2, & nga. the island chinks are on plurk
>>30941642>for bigger streamersAre we talking about Tempus or are we talking about first army?
>>30941674They hate unicorns on there so they wouldn't really care about that
>>30941687>comparing the #1 super power and cultural bastion of the world to a bunch of fucking Maple syrup guzzling socialist snow niggers I demand an apology.
>>30941589Only Gura is even serious about that whole idol business, and she doesn't even stream that much as a resultKiara ... Well, Kiara is Kiara ...
>>30941719The chink fujos have their own forums on chinese sites. This is NijiEN's english speaking audience and believe it or not, but they do exist. They're just not the majority. If you see a NijiEN fan compare HoloEN with NijiEN constantly, they're probably not a chink fujo. The chink fujos only watch Luxiem/ some of Noctyx so they don't give a shit about Hololive. It's the same way most Holofans don't give a shit about Nijisanji.
>>30941799She's gonna get her slutty American friend in.
>>30941644Nina's doxx page is another funny one if you want a trip. Tons of sisters calling her a hag and whore who chases after people 10 years younger kek
>>30941799She's not getting her friends in. Kiara probably doesn't want them getting doxxed and shit
So the ccvs has stabilized. It's basically Reine >= Moona > Anya.
>>30941812I don't watch Vox but based on the support he got, he probably put out a good show for them. I mean everyone knows that Vox is just roleplaying right?
>>30941909>Cultural bastion No fucking way burger believe this. What culture?
>>30941909Where do you think Canadians get their culture? It's all via osmosis from their neighbor. An actual British person would feel just as out of place in Canada as they would in the US.
>>30941920Man, NijiEN audience hates HoloEN that much? It's not like HoloEN audience has done anything bad to them or anything, so why are they so slaty?
>>30941880>Hate unicorn>Become just as obnoxious I don't understand fujos sometimes ...
>>30942005Obesity.
>>30941918God I hope not. Kiara and Mori are the 2 main gateways for outside culture to infiltrate Hololive
>>30941998>roleplayingWell the viewers are not, mentally ill fr
>>30941994I'm watching Moona's POV and it pains me to say, but this is not a good host stream for both POV controlling and commentary.
Hmm yeah it's a good thing Fauna streamed earlier because I can barely hear the EN girls in this.
>>30941994Mio+Miko buff
>>30941909Yikes. I hope you culture kill itself on the overdose of alphabet infection instead of spreading it around the anglosphere.
>>30942049HoloEN has the numbers and they want them for their boytoys
>>30941998Yeah sure, that's why they sent Reimu death threats right? I think they more ESL or COP they get, the further they slide from reality.
>>30942005Gun and Nuclear power
>>30942049NijiEN audience is pretty much fujos and people who think they're too cool for popular hololive
>>30942094Same, but with my JP girls
>>30942093It's to be expected.
>>30941812People don’t shit on luxiem for gaybaiting because they aren’t actively dating other girls unlike ren
>>30942093Is this their first time hosting? Doing Sport Fes is actually pretty hard when most of Hololive actually have no idea how MC work
>>30942093They can use it as learning experience for hosting future events.
>>30942049I mean this with full sincerity and not schizoThere's a large portion of EOP Nijifags who unitonically think idol culture is problematic and by extension they think Hololive is inherently problematic.
>>30942093IDs have always been low to mediocre quality streamers. Its what it is, though you'll get lynched by ID chads to call a spade a spade.Telling that the dominant viewpoint now is...the one with Miko in it.
>>30942255This is the first ID hosted event actually.
>>30941783>Meanwhile on the doxx site Fauna and Mumei's pages are boderline unusable.That's because a bunch of doxschizo haters go there to spam their comments and there aren't enough of their fans there to drown them out (which makes sense, if I'm a sapling or hooman I'm not going to hang out there.) Oh and some of the sisters will do drive bys in the comments calling the schizos incels too so it's a mess.
>>30942005I bet he lives in the city or something cause here, I live next to literal indian town and it smells exactly as you'd think. Country side has jack shit though
>>30942274Ok but I think being a vile whore is problematic, I don't go around letting Vshojo live rent free in my head though. And I'd argue vshojo style vtubing is dominant in EN space vs Hololive being a 10 person niche.
>>30942274Sucks for them. Anikara will make NijiEN go the Idol route
>>309420054chan is American culture
Feels kind of weak? Cover release without even a follow up stream? 1 SC. 1 membership. 3 collabs.
>>30941824Koyori did way more than that anon. She leeched off every big JP, stuffed herself in every single major collab and would hop instantly on any meta game so she can get numbers and screentime on other people’s channels. It’s only masked because she’s a super hard worker who streams a fuck ton but if not that, people would get really annoyed with her too. But she’s a copycat of other holos so people will tune into her
>>30942293I'm curious are there HoloEN members that can be a host for an event
>>30942093ollie seems had much better experience at hosting than moona
>>30942424At least Kronii has a schedule.Gura on the other hand.....I missed like 2 Member streams because of her lack of posting of schedules.
>>30942215I heard people were melting down about Luca for some reason.
>>30942424She has a cover? Nice. That urban dictionary Collab could be solid
>>30942297Yeah and that happens here too to an extent but there's enough holofags here to drone it out. And No one would ever go hang out there like you said cause you're just gonna immediately get bombarded by some ESL calling you a cuck
>>30942297Before Luxiem fans started using the doxxsite, there were 3 comments in Hololive entries AT MOST, now a lot of them have tens of commentsFood for thought
>>30942460kiarashe's already done the en/id mk tournamentfauna or bae can probably do it too if they put some effort
>>30942460Surprisingly, Gura. She did her April's fool stream and did it well
>>30942460Successfully? Maybe Fauna or Kiara.Mori has hosted events before but she uh...didn't do a very good job.
>>30942460If you consider VR Halloween and Christmas as event then Ame is getting better at it, and seems like Mumei and Gura are trying to get their hands on more VR collab in the future
>>30942460I can only think of Kiara and Ame.
>>30942438Sounds like she's on to something. I'd prefer that over not streaming at all.
>>30942561Yeah Id agree Bae being the host, I dont want to annoying screams from participants pov
>>30942093I'm watching it right now and they're not even commentating, it's nothing but sounds from the VC.
>>30942375Yeah but you and I both know the kind of person who gives a shit about "problematic" things is also type to literally never let them go. That's just how they are. That's why I'm glad Cover sticks to their guns on the idol shit even in the western market just as a fuck you to the cultural crusader types
Pomu forced to shill that Tower of Fantasy crap even though she said she wanted to stop doing shill streams for a while. Mortuary and Minecraft should both be 5k+ Not sure what "Duck Duck Goose" collab means though.
Of course Botan wins
>>30942696https://store.steampowered.com/app/1568590/Goose_Goose_Duck/Probably this.
>>30942696Isn't that the game that was caught plagiarizing animation?
>>30942460There hasn't been a full HoloEN collab in a while and the halloween/christmas weren't really 'hosted' but Ame did take the wheel for them. For council you can see that Mumei and Fauna are good contenders
>>30942696I really wonder how much Tower of Fantasy is paying for the whole suite of NijiEN.There's like 10 ToF sponsored streams and they're trying to get every Genshin content creator to shill their game too.Haven't seen a game try this hard at shilling in a while.
>>30942618Yeah notable ones for holoEN>Myth anniv VR>Halloween VR>Christmas VR>Myth April fool's VR All are kino
>>30942775Tower of fantasy? Yeah that's the one. They're still doing ok money wise but it'll probably end up as a pump and dump. The game is unironically a buggy chinky mess
>>30942696>>30942758It's another among us. In one week NijiEN has two large collabs of basically the same game
>>30942561Bae has no power in EN anon.
>>30942005The most popular music heard around the world is oursWe make superhero movies and almost every good film (brits are okay too)Our political discourse basically dictates global geopolitics. If not for us, the concept of free speech and just freedom in general would not be as widespread worldwideWe invented burgers, modern pizza, fried chicken, and Tex-Mex.We have some of the biggest pro sports leagues in the world. We rule football, baseball, basketball, and hockey.We invented the modern carWe uphold the right to gun ownershipAnd so much more. American culture is dominant.
>>30942668This. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea for everyone to be in open VC? Not to mention the audio balance is all over the place, some girls too quiet and some other way too loud.
>>30942965I'm watching Anya's and I can hear Miko more than I can Watame or Botan
>>30942962anon, almost every culture have made some form of fried chicken
Somehow Reine still maintains good numbers while Anya drops down a bit
>>30942916Yeah, all her power is on KR.
>>30942571Yeah i think gura is the best at this. I think she can easily hold a company wide event.
>>30942891Theres a new discord leak from Nina, they have to reach some goal for higher pay
>>30943052She gets mogged by Kiara in the KR department
>>30942965It's only this part because it's a free for all I think?Without open VC, it'll be dead air so it might be a good thing.
>>30942891They have tons of marketing budgets. They even have some kind of offline event here.
>>30943068Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let Hira do some more EN events before she starts throwing her weight around
Botan murdered Migo...
Since Cover usually gives Myth promotion first before Council, there will be a Council cafe next year in Korea. The 1st Myth cafe campaign was a huge success.
>>30942696>implying they can refuse chink money
>>30943192Who the fuck is Hira?
>>30943223I really do wonder what would happen if EN3 ends up being a bigger success than Council. That'd suck for them
>>30943068her brain would fry. maybe with a few more under her belt
>>30943285En4
>>30943287they can't get Sana again, of course they'll be more successful
>>30943041>Reine>has Miko on her team>Miko talks>First army is content>Anya>has Kobo on her team>Kobo barely talks>Indo Army leaves
>>30943299The April Fools was flawless anon. Gura can do it if shes really into one
>>30943345EN4 is a delusion...
>>30943287Wouldn't that be a good thing? Hololive success usually helps the brand incline instead of being isolated.
>>30943041Migo buff
>>30943287Well cover does seem to be working on a first come first serve basis. So whatever EN3 wants, council gets first, like 3d designs or outfits (besides irys)
>>30943377Cover intern-san, don't leak the theme of the gen again
>>30942274It kind of is when you push it toward the unicorn and GFE direction Otherwise it's all about improving yourself and adhere to a standard
>>30943181I bet most of the budget went to marketing rather than creating a good game
>>30943076BTW Nina left the Discord leak in her VOD. No editing. Not sure why. Maybe it would violate their sponsorship terms to take down the VOD for any reason during the initial period? Or just cost them money/target acquisition from lost views? There's nothing relevant in the leak but it's standard practice to edit them out when it happens.
>>30943287A big success would incline the branch so I doubt Council would care too much
>>30943415Kek, Lazulight and Hana get 3D models first before Council and Irys. That's embarrassing for Hololive standard.
>>30943287You talk like that never happened before >Sankisei>ID3
>>30943497Hana should of gotten hers years ago, but you can't fix stupid
>>30943287How would you define success in this case? They'll get subs quicker simply because there is no cull anymore. As far as average CCV, if they beat Council they would also kind of be beating Myth, aside from Gura.
>>30941909>making this post during yuropoor hoursI stand with you Ameribro t. flip
>>30943471A timestamp would be nice, is it the twitter thing?
>>30943497Uh...why exactly? You know Lazulight predates Council, right?
>Hololivve logo has 3 sides>Hololive has 3 HoloFes>Hololive has 3 popular staff members>Hololive has 3 branches>Hololive 1st Army has 6 members, which is 3 times 2 I think I've cracked the code
Migo's voice is really distinctive huh. I can pick her out of everyone talking but I don't recognize anyone else.
>>30943365>Miko reaches the top>Forgets her pickaxeThe comedic timing never fails with her
>>30943497I surprised they even chose Lazulight. I would've thought they'd give it to Luxiem but props for now showing favoritism for once. Also Lazulight came after myth and before council
>>3094365314:20 on the VOD
>>30943287A wildly successful EN3 is the best thing Council could possibly hope for.
>>30943583I believe Hana could get her 3D even before HoloID1 but she's just went retard
>>30943068NoFuckingWayYou think Gura can tardwrangle JP? Let alone her senpais?
>>30943673>"Tanigo" is six letters.
>>30943673I'm gonna laugh so hard if EN3 flops
>>30943695Pretty much
>>30943751she's been doing that in rust offline
>>30943751I mean yes. Gura is probably the most respected members in holo.
>>30943762it can't be worse than iLuna....right?
>>30943673Hololive is 8 letters which is 3x3 - 3/3.
>>30943750Yeah. She probably could of gotten it before myth exised if my memory is correct
>>30943497>hana debuted years before myth and council>only gets her 3d this year despite hitting the 100k requirement a long time agoThis fucking retard could’ve inclined the whole NijiID branch if she chose to have it last Nijifes. Thanks to her retardation, she’s doomed them all to irrelevancy
>>30943762It takes someone special like Sana to flop as a HoloEN
>>30943695That is literally her brand, same to PekoraYou can always recognize their voice
Ok I am almost convinced that vtuber companies are using bots.Do you have any evidence this is true?
>>30943750She could’ve but apparently turned it down at the time because she wanted to wait for Zea and Taka (her wavemates) to reach 100k
>>30943814There will NEVER be an EN 3view. EVER. let's be real here, for EN3 to be a definitive flop it would need 3/5 of the talent to be sub 5k shitters. So let's say EN3 one and two were 6-7k chuubas but EN3 three was a 4k and the other two were 2-3k shitters that would be awful but it wouldn't be iLuna tier.
>>30943812>>30943811You guys are really underestimating what is needed to host a company wide event
>>30943814Obviously not, it would be almost impossible for them to do that bad. If that happened it means the whole EN market has collapsed or they went completely off the rails with their hiring. Right now they could pick 5 random girls from the small corpos and still be moderately successful.
>>30943944Don't you recognize this is the new direction recently for Gura's schizo?
Event is over. Go home indofriends
>>30943816Uh... retard bro, that's 2. 3 times 3 is 9 minus 3 is 6 divided by 3 is 2.
>>30943944Anon one of the people you're replying to is 100% the>if Gura streamedschizo. No shit they're delusional, they're doing it on purpose. I don't get what the fuck they're trying to do with these shitposts though, chumbuds running around spouting shit like this hasn't really been a thing since 2020.
>>30943951it's all about brand name
>>30943951Wen you're an EN streamer in HoloPro, it would take a stupid amount of effort to be 3view. Tempus has proven that Stars debuff can't even bring them to 3view territory.
>>30942965Yeah, skewed audio balancing has always been a thing whenever the ID girls have big collabs, with Reine being pretty much the exception. Easy way to circumvent it is just use Holodex, open all their streams and then mute everything except Reine.
>>30943930I think ILuna is doing better than you think anon. The boys have 4-6k viewers. The girls are getting around 3k.
>>30944073Im "watching" Moona's stream from my phone. You can control the volume and distance easily
>>30944063Give them another month and I bet Regis can hit it on some streams. Noir and Magni will probably never be 3views unless they do a watchalong. Axel is debatable.
Why doesn't the Stars debuff work on Tempus yet? Why do they still have a respectable amount of viewers during overlap?They should be in the 3view range by now right?
>>30940978>>30941558LMAO I remember this dude already trying to leech on some HoloJP channels in the chat using his youtube check mark to stand out.That was 2+ years ago before even HoloEN 1 and he still does it jesus.
>>30943365>Kobo barely talksNo, you don't understand, Kobo barely talking isn't the problem, it's her not having POV. The majority of Kobokeks refuses to watch her collabs unless she has a POV.
>>30944207How many months are you giving Tempus anyway? Would you eat your balls if they can keep a 1k median?
>>30944212This is their numbers with the Stars debuff
>>30944063Altare is trying hard to be a 3view with all the Zelda though
>>30944212dunno
>>30941642it only works like that for first army, anyone below first army has bigger clips than VODs
>>30944073>except ReineSurprised you can handle constant shouting from that bird. Anya's pov is better for keeping up with team convo, downside is Anya not a good cameraman
>>30944274And yet he still has a loyal 1-2k base. I wonder why?
>>30944212Because they're being shilled all over the place. By the entire hololive shill squad, and the hololive talents are giving them shoutouts, collabs, and attention. Basically you will have them pushed on you whether you like it or not
> jwu> SportsFes is already overwell fuck me, I guess I'm watching clips
>>30944140Kyo is 1-4k streamer, Aster is 1-3k. None of them are going above 5k without a collab. Ren's the only one even doing anything close to Noctyx numbers. Scarle and Maria are doing decent by female standards. Aia is not.
>>30943698Miko is a treasure
>Pekora is actually losing in hour watched despite having the lead a few weeks agoWhat happened?
>>30944350Is it mandated by Yagoo? That man literally wears a Magni shirt at CRX so I believe he can force an entire Holo fanbase and company to shill them.
>>30943076That's every sponsor. I was watching Jabroni Mike and he mentioned what the companies do is say you "can" get a certain payout for the shill stream. The problem is you have to reach around the high end of your average CCV for the shill stream, which often doesn't happen because a lot of people don't turn up for a shill stream. He managed to hit the desired CCV amount so he got a juicy payout. Anyone they are making them shill out of their typical time zone have zero chance in hitting that CCV goal.
>>30944140Better viewership than TEMPISS
>>30944325Two of my beloved hags are on that team, I have to compromise.
>>30944353You didn't miss anything desu, it was shit - I had the stream in the background 90% of the time
>>30944367I don't think what you're saying is in good faith>Kyo is a 1-4k streamerok but who is he streaming against? You can't just say that he gets 1k in isolation. He might get as low as 2k if he's going up against a lot of overlaps. He got 4k today. Aia got nearly 3k today. Ren gets 6k or more. Scarle gets 3k.They're doing well. But you are quoting these numbers out of context, not considering the overlaps.
>>30944212they're building their own box out of deactivated / former clipwatcher Holo-viewers. Also people whose oshi just doesn't stream enough hours per week/month to justify ignoring content that appeals to them. anyone trying to say they're being shilled 24/7 lives in an alternate dimension where Bae, Ollie and Mori are the only Holo streamers that exist
>>30944258No, keeping a 1k median would not be difficult at all. I would have guessed at least that even prior to their debuts. That doesn't preclude Regis or Axel occasionally hitting 3view on certain streams, albeit probably very high 3view like 800-900. If Noir and Magni are above 4k 6 months out and Regis and Axel can keep at least 3k I'll be impressed. if they fall to 2k-ish it';ll be about what I expected initially.
nice numbers for holoid
>>30944438He canAlso it seem from gen 6 Cover been trying to artificially pump popularity into new gen by shilling and hyping them everywhere
>>30944438Because magni was designed by some famous nepotism-artist who yagoo wants to keep happy. And he ended up having a super butchered fucked up design. Yagoo doesn't want to offend his famous friend, so he shills the fuck out of him to try and turn him into a success.
Man, the front page at Holo reddit is dominated by Tempus memes. Do they actually do their reps and watch male streams?
>>30944440Well thank god CRK hit 500k views, very low ccv despite being AmeSame
>>30944353Didn't miss too much, it was chaotic af so maybe clips could compile it better.I was on the doxxsite most of the time reading sister comments and omg Kaela is cute af. Voice doesn't match her looks at all.
>>30944367I'm utterly disappointed that 2 of the diversity hires don't even speak their native fucking tongues. What's even the point if we can't hear them, let alone see their diversity
>>30944542It's bait. The dude is replying to himself
An update on a certain site that was being talked about here dropped and let me say.....CUTE!!!
>>30944573No. They're just the new toy
>>30944212Because the only other option for male vtubers is Niji EN. In Japan there are tons of other male vtubers (including dozens and dozens of Nijis) so people who like male vtubers have an extensive choice.
>>30944650What... Dont tell pictures were from AX..
>>30944781nah, they are old
>>30943376That was just Myth and Gura seems to get overwhelmed easily. That being said, she also organized her birthday concert successfully without broadcasting every little problem like Kiara did.
>>30944504Someone doesn't become a 6k streamer because he gets 3k and is overlapped. 3k is 3k. The fact is Kyo and Aster stream in the middle of the fucking day most of the time. It's not exactly a great timeslot but as far as overlaps go it's pretty light. Those two aren't measuring up to even Noctyx and aren't even sniffing Luxiem's boots.
There’s a 60k stream due on Noel channel this week btw
>>30944650Yo they got the DIRT on Nijisanji ID???
>>30944846Gura gets overwhelmed? Isn't it the other way around? Hololive members gets overwhelmed by gura.
>>30944846>every little problem like Kiara did.not hard when Gura might be the one who uses twitter the least out of Holo
>>30944934Which is?
RATE IT
Ollie's new costume really works for being a MC
>>30944607It doesn't matter too much. Not like Rosemi has many French followers, Nina much Russians, Millie many flips, or Reimu any spics. If you're streaming in EN most of the time that's what your audience is mostly going to be. Enna only has Chinese fans because Chinese are already watching the branch anyway.
>>30944781Nah from 2018, but I concur. Someone is very cute.
>>30944596>check the site>ANOTHER laplus updateI swear she keeps getting new updates
>>30944846Gura's problem was the pov control, she has to do everything alone in that stream
>>30944140I'm going by table anons numbers.
>>30944998Sankisei 3rd anniversary gameshow
>>3094502819k/1017k/1016k/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH9LuR2CfAc Thoughts?
>>30944992This never happened
>>30945028I liked it
I just to inform you, Roboco had 13k going against HoloID event
>>30945189Not clicking.
>>30945189Don't shill your shit video.
>>30945189>nousagino
>>30942891Tower of Fantasy is paying for NijiEN AND JP. a lot of their marketing budget went to Nijisanji
>>30945403Bet they wish they could get Hololive instead
>>30945403>SalomeL FUCKING MAO YOU CAN MAKE THIS SHIT UP. SHE WAS MADE FOR SHILLING
>>30945439It's more likely there's devs that worked on this game that personally harassed fubuki
does having Reine in ID automatically means that HoloID is above the law in some ways?
>>30945439not their fault hololive fucked up their relation with china
>>30945403Honestly glad to see the dog is still out there getting paid. I heard things hadn't been going so well for her recently.
>>30944650Wait, a doxx on bae ? Which site could I go?
https://youtu.be/WkUXJUQMZ-8Wait, this was a real thing. I thought people shopped the image or something.Numbers?
>>30945439Nijisanji had a successful financial year and a super popular Koshien event. Are you serious? Even if I'm not a Nijifan, I still admit that Nijisanji is good choice for shilling due to the high number of tourists.
>>30945507anon shill streams are things you pick and can refuse or accept kekif salome keep picking those is because she wants to
https://youtu.be/VkNmi3QN-xE>be me>youtube algo suddenly recommends me an ongoing art stream from a 3-view with 55k subs>fairly simple female model>opens mouth, it’s a babiniku>decide to stay anyway just to see if I can borrow his techniques for my art reps
>>30945599anon...
>>30945439Even one whoretuber Genshin player said it's a FotM Genshin clone that will get some high debut numbers because of being a Genshin clone but it won't grow that much due to being a worse Genshin.
Lapu looks average jp, but to think with that polite gesture she dances so well, with amazing footwork
>>30945616She really like shilling and play RE
>>30945541They did not fuck up their relationship from China though. It's the Chinese cult nationalism that fucked their potential partnership with Chinese companies.
>>30945541Some people still defend cutting ties with China like its a good thing. That's like reducing 50% of vtuber sponsorships
>>30945403They can't afford kuzuha.
>>30945664Babis have some good content.
>>30945403good for shiba. she's at least getting some work.
>>30945616No those rules are what we know about Hololive. We don't know how Anykara works with sponsorships.
>>30945682I saw an image saying Gura, Shion and Lap where in a live. That sounds like bullshit
>>30945724Maybe Cover should have fired Coco at the start of the yab. Keeping Coco all that long to see her move over to a rival company. That's entite Cover's fault.
>>30945439If they could, they would've sponsored Hololive too. Corporations aren't tribal, the more eyes the better.Hololive is still dominating, but idk how you can say Nijisanji isn't also doing very well right now. It's not mutually exclusive.
>>30945730and 100% of shit sponsorships
>>30945583How have you made it here this long without knowing what the doxsister site isjust search for the PLs of the niji boys, that's how a lot of them ended up there
>>30945403Jesas, Nijisanji has like 10 models that are pure sex and the others are fucking trash
>>30945730>defending censor-happy chinksAnon , they're cracking down on zombie and ghoul references in media because of the death thing. Also, the CCP puppet on the AO3 elections.
>>30945403what the dog doin
>>30945855>Sounds like bullshitWhy lol. Gura and shion are already have multiple songs together and fuck it might as well through in Lap since she's a loli with a similar mesugaki vibe and she's one of their newer talents. They make perfect sense as a combo
>>30945843No, Pomu confirmed last week that they can accept or refuse them. If they refuse, then the sponsorship will go to another member
>>30945730>less gachashit shill streams>no need to plan EN events with CN time in mind>no need to think like a bug just to keep your company afloathow is this bad again?
Whta is the rrat about Gura being in Shion's live? Is that a another tier 3 Gura members stream?
>>30945843an anon here explained that it mito said also works the same way in anycolor, top dogs pick sponsorships, if they don't like it the management passes it down to whoever is willing to do it unless the sponsor asked for someone specific
>>30945403Who are the last two? I believe this is the first time I seen them
>>30945730Reminds me of that Lebron thing when confronted with China. He was just like "I don't want to lose partnerships, so I just shut up and dribble."
>>30945843I'd imagine Nijis chuubas will nevertheless take any sponsorships they can get, as their welfare isn't quite as guaranteed as Hololive.
>>30941271> Elira> Daisenpai of anythingA curse onto whoever started this retarded fucking meme
>>30945970Naraka and Morinaka
>>30945962>rratBro Gura is literally in Shion's thumbnail lmao. >>30945599
>>30945969>the same way in anycolor, top dogs pick sponsorshipsNo, that is not quite the same way to how Hololive does it.
>>30945973There's a reason people call him RMBJ
>>30945956Cause it's something I would dream about.
>>30943665sorry hololive is living rent free in nijinigger brain that they forgot about when their own livers debut
>>30941271She knew who pikl was. she just thought it was written pickle instead of pikl
>>30945977Hololive members are independant contractors, they don't receive welfare and benefits like Cover staff. Stop spreading rrats.
>>30946119rorurumao
>>30946043Proof next thread? That's a literal shopped picture
>>30946071Seethe, Holokek. It's dogs eat dogs world out there, you think Hololive is any different?
>>30945901Because I wasn't interested spending time to see Luxiem dox. If it's council, maybe I'm albeit interested. I haven't saw bae yet
>>30945859It would just taint the image of Cover to the rest of the world.You choose a poison, China or the rest of the world. If you choose China, they lose money from outside China. It is a lose-lose scenario.This is not Cover's fault that CCPChinks are braindead.
>>30944504You’re telling an anon he isn’t acting in good faith with his argument while you just completely ignore what the fuck type of content Iluna did today to get those numbers? Like what??>Kyo>MC>Aia>Tier list involving Nijis>Scarle>Handcam streamActually, lets take this further. Before today, Scarle’s last 3 streams were handcam, MC and handcam. Yes anon, they’re doing great! If great means their most buff content possible. Also, this isn’t even including the fact that they’ve had open VC and had people enter their streams to bolster numbers.They’re all extremely volatile with their numbers, including Ren. You aren’t doing good if your numbers vary from 1k to 4-5k. A good streamer gets numbers regardless, and has people tune in because they want to be there. You don’t say someone is doing good when they get 1.3k for 2 hours straight with 2-3 others streaming
>>30946119>this is what Nijiniggers believe.
>>30945970The one with horns is Naraka. Like Towa and Matsuri, she’s very active in the JP FPS circle and regularly competes in competitions like CR Cup. Also has a crush on SellyNot too sure about Morinaka but iirc she has both a loli model and an “adult” model. She also used to be either Gibara’s or Lulu’s singing partner (forgot which one) back when they had a unit signed to a record label but now she’s a solo performer
>>30946119>ContractorsLol. That's Niji.
>>30946207Im glad they left china despite the losses. Too troublesome market
>>30946011I still don't know why nijifriend tried so hard to attach the word "daisenpai" onto Elira. It's the same thing as calling anyone of Myth Daisenpai. Shit just didn't make sense
>>30944573People are invested in them and if you look at Vesper’s clips recently, more and more people are watching them. Like, getting clips that get 20-40k is fucking insane for them given how small their fanbase is right now. It’s a good thing and I think the stray collabs they get from the holos will actually help them get more exposed to the casual audience
>>30945855This is literally from Shion's official youtube channel. You still call this bullshit?
>>30946248>FPS circles>'Adult" modelI kinda regret asking
>>30946231How the roll classic CCP strat: gaslight and deflect
>>30946171Yes, Hololive has chairs
>>30946328If you seriously keep replying to him, you are the retarded one
>>30946187>>30587245 here
Nene 18k whatDidn't her yab and break kill her channel
https://youtu.be/lKtYx7-tN_cThoughts?
>>30946409something something rust buffhow much more does this need to be repeated?
>>30946167Are you really this retarded?Go to youtube.comThen search "shion ch."then you will literally see the thumbnail with laplus hugging with gura.Unless you call shion a liar.
>Big ID celebration stream ends>Thread gets filled with low quality baitsna~ho~ne
>>30946220>You don’t say someone is doing good when they get 1.3k for 2 hours straight with 2-3 others streamingTo be fair, that's like pretty average for the rest of NijiEN in NA hours, most of them are in the 1-3k range and I think they're doing fine.iLUMA is a disappointment compared to Noctyx and Luxiem, but they're basically back to older NijiEN numbers (and possibly lower looking at Aia).Definitely the weakest batch of males in NijiEN tho.
>>30946328These are probably 4 of my top 5 favorites. Cover greenlight this just for me.>>30946384I haven't had a chance to keep up to date. I saw this pic in global and I just assumed it was fake
>>30946313The majority of Niji EOP fans do not know Mito since they don't care about NijiJP. But since they want to copy Hololive, they have to pick someone to be a daisenpai.
>>30942424By "Cover release", she meant Cover is going to release her
>>30946328>link provided >>30945599>image proof provided >>30945599>description says >ゲスト>Gawr Gura @Gawr Gura Ch. hololive-EN >湊あくあ @Aqua Ch. 湊あくあ >ラプラス・ダークネス @Laplus ch. ラプラス・ダークネス - holoX - its shopped!
>>30946452>put gura in thumbnail>have all chumbuds lured, waiting for gura to appear>she never appears>chumbuds never leave resulting in 150k peakthis is her masterplan all along
>>30946454Just ignore the ESL ones, simple as.
>>30945439It's a Chinese company right? Probably impossible. It's basically in bilibili's hands for Hololive to be "unblacklisted". until they think it's in their financial interest to do so, they won't. The actual spammer schizos don't matter.
>>30946454Almost every time.This is why I believe most of the shitposters are just larping indogs
What if StarsEN was the brand to penetrate th mythical EU market?
>>30946624Complete Hol0 domination
>>30946428>>/vt/thread/S30835101#p30837306
>>30946119>Mumei: "Hololive paycheck is bigger than I expected, I could buy houses and properties">Ina:"My parents freaked out on paycheck they immediately call an accountant to handle this". Reminder Ina's parent is highly second gen Korean in Canada live in one of the most expensive city>Marine:"My Father asked me for a car after seeing my bank deposit">Watame: "Just bought a house for oba-chan"I can keep going
>>30946493Bro you don’t find success by turning back the clock. They debuted to over 100k watching and there’s a standard set by having “big names” who’ve already shown success. When you’re thrown into a moderately successful environment you don’t get the privilege to be accepted at the bare minimum. You know how ridiculous it sounds saying “well they’re getting numbers Nijis used to get a year ago so that’s something” like what
On a day where 18 NijiEN streamers streamed, including 2 of the golden 15k streamer Luxiem boys only 2 streams managed to legitimately reach the cripple tally, and no streams managed to legitimately reach the global tally.On the same day, with 1 guerrilla stream from HoloEN and 3 streams from HolostarsEN, 4 cripple 5ks and 1 global entry with no shenanigans.remember, don't believe their lies about being 4k+ streamers, look at the actual numbers
>>30946011She unironically nepo hired like half the damn branch.
>>30946666Miko bought a car for her mother that she is not allowed to drive
>>30945730They didn't really have a choice so it doesn't really matter. But it's a net positive for the audience even if it costs the company some money on the back end.
>>30945189Heavy esl accent. no thanks.
>>30946666>Just bought a house for oba-chanwait it finally happened? bless you sheepand bless you devil anon for telling me
>>30946702meant to say 18 NijiEN streams, not streamers, but still the same sentiment, i'm sure it was 18 or more of their livers if you count people in VC anyhow
>>30946666I can't believe those whores make half a million a year. Meanwhile my Tempus boys will be lucky to sniff 6 figs, guys with actual families to support and not 20 year old trailer trash like Ame who probably spends her money on meth and expensive male escorts.
>>30946764In the end, it only cost them some sponsorships and missing a few concerts.
>>30945189Kuzuha....
>>30945730They keep their image which is more valuable than any moneyIf they fired Coco right then and there, boom, reputation ruined in the eye the rest of the world. Even Niji do everything in their power to not have to fire anyone
>>30946821Those escorts? All meI'm cheap af tho, no need to worry
>>30946516Elira knows like 1/2 of the pre-Luxiem cast (and even one or two of Luxiem), they're networking hires of her circle. She'll fade out of relevance as they hired more unconnected randos but at the start it revolved around her.
fuck i missed the holoID meet because I accidentally ran over a kid but she's safe in the ICU now. How were the numbers? what were the highlights? give me a tldr of everything including this thread
>>30946821Dude, Holostar JP with even worse number are still making enough money to make it their main job
>>30946735Where'd you get that info?
>>30943742made it a bit clearer
>>30946919Half of NijiEN was part of her PL circle
>>30946821I wish Ame spent her money on coke and whores. She still shops in thrift stores for her clothes
>>30946946>Paul Lii see how it is.
>>30946666Also Marine: "My sister just resign from her office, now I can ask her to helping in our house. Oh don't worry I will pay her for the rest of her life"
>>30946787It didn't happen. Anon is just a retard.
>>30946946I'm guessing that Paul Li guy is their sponsor liaison.
>>30946914Around 50k combined viewersPeaks: 19k Moona, 17.8k Reine, 16.1k AnyaThe stream was mostly boring desu, nothing relevant most of the time, couldn't understand anything, rules unclear. Had some funny moments at the endUnironically just watch clips
>>30946890i thought 'escorts' was code for frogs and bugsand 'meth' was code for baked goods that make tummy hort.
>>30946914Anon the fuck dudeAnyways, on to more important matters. Numbers were good, everyone hit over 16k. Event was short and scuffed as hell (being more specific, it didn’t seem to have had much playtesting go on), post-event bonus stage was funny to watch, TimeRyS is fucking hilarious and chaotic as all hell, playfighting on VC over everyone including the hosts, Kobo had to shit
>>30940095He is what schizos think about MoriKinda ironic
>>30946624They should penetrate gura first.
>>30945689A holo collab would actually prop it up. Imagine if the game had holo characters or costumes, that would be guaranteed holo playerbase trying the shit game and getting addicted
>>30947031It is, he's a frog
>>30942891>>30945403>Niji gets a garbage ass game like ToF to shill>meanwhile Holo gets Pricunny, a top 10 gacha mobage in Japan with an anime Really shows you which brand is the more powerful one.
>>30943287maybe it'd finally light a fire under their ass and get them to add some value to hololive.
>>30947077NijiEN shill this game too no?
>>30947077NijiEN also got those pricon sponsor iirc
>>30947017thats what i get for trusting the devil
>>30947077What about Valkyrie Connect? HoloEN was in tge game and they broke a bunch of records.
>>30946946>Paul Li (EN staff)LOL, LMAO even
>>30947012I remember back then we used to talk about how rich all Sankisei is, they are probably even richer now
>>30947123Huh? When did they do a collab with Pricon?
>>30947077Pricunny paid for a song from Mori at her peak and still uses holomembers in their ads
>>30947077Good attempt at bait but Niji EN also did a Priconne sponsorship, albeit not as extensively involved as the Holo EN campaign.
>>30947077Cover seriously needs to get Council and Tempus in more gachashit. Hololive blew up when they did their Azur Lane collab. I didn't even know they existed until then. That collab basically saved their brand.
>>30944504>ok but who is he streaming against?Does not matter. If people prefer watching others to watching you, they aren't really YOUR audience, just tourists channel hopping.I'd say overlaps overall show the best indication of how many dedicated fans you have, how many fans would watch YOU specificially despite there being 6-7 others streaming at the same time.If this number is low, well then you just aren't entertaining to a lot of people.
>>30946946>Paul Li>EN (North America)
>>30947156
>>30947077Tof is poison number game. better get away from that game. and also genshin and Tof fanbase are at war atm because similarity lmaoo
>>30947169Apparently there's some rumors that the Genshin devs were big fans of Hololive and planned big things with them until Hololive got unpersoned just right at Genshin's release.
>>30947146Kiara,Ina,Pekora and La+shit was so successful that they started talks about a second event before the time for the first one even run out
>>30947146Hololive brought so many people into into that game, it would of made it to the daily tally if it was a stream
>>30947162Weren't in the game doesn't count
NijiEN needs to be more agressive with sponsorship. Myth got included as playable characters in a few games so NijiEN should go for that.
>>30944607kek you want them to be 2views or what?
>>30947220As much as I dislike Genshin, imagine how mutually beneficial that would have been for both of them.
>>30947215That ain't a collab.
>>30943866I don't have access to your dreams, so no.
>>30947230I don't think Hololive is in the game either?
>>30947221I think the reason why this collab succeed is because of how good kiara at shilling. Kiara stream has the highest CCV for this game if im not mistaken.
>>30947250Yagoo was too pussy, he needs to become more like Riku.
>>30947026>>30947033Okay just as expected. I wouldn't trust the IDs to hold a proper company wide event properly anyway especially on a short notice with no proper buildup like JPs but at the very least the TRIED. Meanwhile EN is just coasting as always. The JPs that actually participated are godsend.
>>30945961Gachashits pay a lotGenshin cost $100M and most of the money went into aggressive marketting
>>30946946Paul Li Dangerously
>>30947231That isn't how sponsorships work.
>>30947215That's a regular ass sponsorship. Did they actually have a collab with Pricon or not?
>>30947250Genshin is the biggest game in the world now even without Hololive shilling. I think it wouldn't have mattered anyway
>>30947220If you believe the rumors, Marine did record something for Azur Lane collab right before the Taiwan yab.
>>30947337They are if you are Kiara
>>30946914>spoilerHow the fuck
>>30947220it would have just been shill streamsMihoyo is too wall gardened like Cover to make do with any big collabsit took them 3-4 years of begging to even get EVA collab in honkai to happen
>>30947304Man, imagine the amount of money Cover can save on marketung budget when they release HoloEarth. Just get the 1st Army girls and Myth to play the game.
>>30947304That's every single AA and AAA games. They spend more on the marketing than the game.
>>30945403Salome is a pretty dogshit gamer so she's going to be a riot trying anything combat or jumping related
>>30947339What do you mean by collab? Are you asking if they commissioned a song and art like they did with the Myth campaign? I don't think they did. They just had multiple members do basic shill streams for the game.
>>30947397If Genshin actually includes Luxiem in the future, the mindshare meme might come true.
I doubt it in the case of genshin just because they've only had one collab and it was a contractually obligated sony collab. Honkai Imapct's also only had 1 character collab over the span of like 5 years. Collabs seem difficult for them to pump outThat said sankisei would fit in well with genshin so i could have seen them being at least a little interest in it
>>30947345>biggest game in the world>when Minecraft is right over thereRoru, rumao even.
>>30947382dumb ass parents neglecting their child. no worries even if they sue I'll win I have connections and dashboard camera installed in my car street cctv as hard evidence of the parents negligence
>>30947399When Holoearth releases, every indy vtuber, vshojo, and a shit ton of fleshtubers will play if for free. That shit will also get a ton of clips
>>30947451She already did her stream last night https://vrabi.net/video/mtFLvvAG_nk
>>30945189> no mention of Chinayeah he's Rainbow Club alright
>>30947399Not as much if they had released a non genshin wannabe game
>>30946666paycheck and salaries are different things. this money is from SC, merchandise and so on. their salary is very small
>>30947497yeah but what if the game is ass
>>30947485>>30947345sorry my bad>biggest anime stylized game in the world>>30947497Is HoloEarth even F2P? is it gacha? no one knows about this vaporware
>>30947488Only 3rd worlders have dash cams, mostly to prevent insurance scams.
Speaking of game collabs, will the inclusion of Fubuki, Ina, and Shien’s costumes and voices in PSO2:NGS possibly boost their popularity a little bit or do PSO2 players not care about vtubers for that to happen?Also, did the Poker Chase x Niji collabs like the recent Edengumi one help their numbers?
>>30947501>rainbow club>guy is a huge holofag
>>30947488Just be careful around twitter anon
>>30947506HoloEarth is different because you don't play a pure mobile game. HoloEarth acts as a gateway fplor you to enjoy other Holo content, like having stream watchalongs, interacting with other Holo fans and even attending an exclusive Hololive concerts.
>>30947563No NGS was a mega flop. This is a desperate attempt from Sega to get people to come back after they lost their players. It's not meant to work the other way and help the holos (aside from the help of a fat paycheck)
>>30947591That shit sounds like "metaverse".
>>30942502Guess when you start appealing to the chinks your audience starts behaving like chinks too
>>30947547At least HoloEarth looks better than LieVerse
>>30947502>check Salome’s channel overlaps>only the Nijisanji main channel has above 20% overlapJesas. Also, what’s with the big drop in viewers in the middle?
>>30947635It is. Not the Facebook version.
>>30946900You aren't the "daisenpai" of anything until you work for at least 4-5 years in the fucking scene.Elira wasn't even a year into her job before someone stuck that label on her.Despite the retardation attached to the term, this is one instance where it's actually applicable to use "cultural appropriation", where the original meaning and weight behind it is just discarded without any care.
>>30947635thats because it is
>>30947635it totally is and it's why it'll flop
>>30947675Based on?
>>30946390oh that site, I forgot about it. Welp, spent 10 minutes in it, trying to see the others and nijis. Unbelievable how bad looking the nijiENs are
>>30947635Because it is. Even Yagoo calls it a metaverse for Hololive fans. But I doubt it's going to be as extreme as that Facebook shit though.
>>30947635It's literally described as a metaverse, which is why every anon acting like it's a Genshin clone guaranteed to be success is delusional.
>>30947696Yahoo mention it during his interview with Botan.
>>30947631I thought PSO2 was good though? What’s the difference between that and NGS anyway?
>>30947696Name a single successful """"metaverse""""" besides vrchat
>>30947697fulgur is kinda huge on the site tho
>>30947705Nigger you saw how hololive error, a cheapo horror game that isn't even on fucking steam made gang busters, literally in what universe do you expect holoearth to flop?
>>30947022Manager probably.CN managers would explain the Holo collab ban
>>30947670Everything English speaking vtubers do is cultural appropriation, unless you're Vshojo and don't have any real culture at all other than a misused Japanese name.
Since the whole metaverse is getting cancelled all over tye bet, the fact that Holofans give Yagoo and his metaverse project a pass is quute worrying.
>>30947728Uh stereotype conclusion
>>30947547>biggest anime stylizedAnon, FGO is right over there. Not to mention Pokemon GO and Monster Strike if you want something older.
SUPA NENECCHI 24K DOOOOORRRRRYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30946946Paul li to be clearer was mentioned before on otakuthon and is known by fans who were there. he was one of the staff helping the nijien girls on the event alongside otakuthon staff
>>30947728World of Warcraft
>>30947769Because it aint crypto retard
>>30947670to be fair, lazulight told people not to call them daisenpai when that started to happen
>>30947765he's literally a white guy. anyone on otakuthon knows how he looks
>>30947761Live service games that require serves are different from a paid gameIf no one plays the game because metaverse shit is weird and cringe then it won't matter how much money it may have made week 1 or whatever. It'd die a premature death all the same
>>30947765Doubt it's a mainlander, most likely Chinese Canadian like most of the talents. Anglicized given name support that. Mainlander would be Zhang Chang Wang or whatever the fuck.
>>30947220They are literally Tech Otaku, they love Japan
>>30947777Genshin dumpsters all over FGO now in 2022. FGO is mostly JP centric and makes peanuts overseas, whereas Genshin is global gacha monster.>Pokemon Golol>Monster StrikeJP centric and literally died in the west.
>>30947794So that's the guy who stonewalled HoloEN from collabing with NijiEN? Why are chinks so oetty?
>>30947778JESAS gura buff is too strong. One interaction with gura boosted her so much.
HoloEarth will fail and Cover will go bankrupt and Nijisanji will buy out the talent contracts
Genuine question.is Tof a good game to stream?or its garbage like genshin that only good to stream for gacha content?
>>30947298ehem, PekoLaplus shill stream for it hit 40k
>>30947570>HolofagMore like the old /jp/ unity fag
>>30947869No you fucking retard. It literally says staff on his name
>>30947802WoW is a game that has actual gameplay beyond "go sit in a field and watch a movie with Miko"
>>30947220Genshin Noelle is literally just Noel
>>30947838Obviously, they must've knew already how that's an indirect disrespect to those who actually pioneering the industry
>>30947885Easy 40k for gura if she create a character that looks like her.
>>30947761A universe where the viewing experience in a metaverse fucking sucks and people go back to watching streams on youtube like always. Then the project dies in half a year due to lack of users.It's completely unproven right now.
>>30947846Cover is already losing so much money this year, if HoloEarth flops, it's a serious trouble.This is why Anykara doesn't invest in shit like games because of how volatile the market is.
>>30947866Okay, show me how much they gross since their release, then. Surely you have data to back your claim, yes?
>>30947885IS GARABANZO
>>30947846The holos will play(visit) it, that alone is a reason for people to keep playing it.
>>30947885It looks legitimately like a poor man’s genshin, and if genshin is bad to stream outside of gacha, there’s no hope for a game that is clunkier than it
>>30947948Ogey
>>30947915And metaverse is just fancy 2020s venture capitalist term for MMO, what's your point?
https://tgsvr.com/Cover is appearing at TGS.
>>30947885It's janky af, even worse than genshitNot even ounce of originalityOh, and timegated chest
>>30947885it's literally bootleg genshin with a P2W mode and being a buggy mess at the same time
>>30947972Until they don't>Oops sorry Anon you just missed the Ayame movie watchalong. Try again maybe in 6 months
>>30947838I know Lazulight told them not to, but iirc it wasn't the fans that started the meme was it? It was one of their juniors, probably from Ethyria.
I'm seeing a lot of Cover doubters in here. Do you guys expect a company blessed by God to fail? Yagoo is infallible
>>30947948Based Yagoo using the funds instead of paying 4billion in taxes
>>30947885Anon, we're not kidding when we call it garbage Genshin clone.
>>30947937Nah, she doesn't have nearly as big of titties.
>>30947846Bruh just having that "Hololive" attached to it will definitely make peeps come, just create gacha banner or shit to get them. Fucking Valkyrie something-something manage to get their highest ever number for years on their shit game just by having Holo in it.
>>30947951>gross since release>FGO being a 7 year old game and Monster strike being a 9 year old game>Genshin isn't even 2 years oldAre you fucking retarded or something?Here's some numbers anyways, for mobile only when the game is on multiple platforms.https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/05/05/genshin-impact-is-making-a-billion-dollars-every-six-months-on-mobile-alone/?sh=38131b103126
>>30948006No it's not because MMOs still exist and still make moneymetaverses don't make money. Because they have nothing to keep people coming back aside from NFT scams. Because they don't have gameplay. Which MMOs DO have
>Genshit shillsGo back chinks >>>/NijiEN/
>>30948016Why does TGS invite Cover and not Anykara? Anykara literally has a game coming out.
>>30948131Tech company
>>30948114not a shill but I like big dick numbers
>>30948077So you didn't take into account their release date when you called them 'biggest in the world', huh? Good to know, I now realize I'm talking to someone who ignores context to fit his narrative. Don't reply to me again, I feel my IQ draining just from talking to you.
So what's up with Maria? I thought she was going to be a upper tier NijiEN female streamer but she's not even close to 2k after an hour into the stream.
Oh hey, guess what hit 1M viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8vPcBsVIqY
>>30948112Fortnite is a metaverse so your premise is wrong right out of the gate.
>>30948161They're the biggest in the world RIGHT NOW. That's the context at the start of the convo, retard.
>>30948158>not vtuberWrong place retardchama
>Shion is interested in playing rust>Lamy already playing but still haven't stream rust. Who do you think will join rust arc?
>>30947728Fortnite
>>30948075If they add a gacha component then it will presumably have gameplay. If it has gameplay then I think it will succeed.All we have right now to go on is yagoo mentioning movie and stream watchalongs. Anything else is speculationSure if they have gacha that will probably keep people coming, but they haven't said they will yet, and until they do I'm not gonna assume they have some successful component down the pipeline when they haven't given a reason to believe there is one.
>>30948016But how? That's a big league unless Cover has nepotism going around with this eventsI mean I know Cover is big but they are not on Nintendo or Capcom level of corpo
>>30948161Anon, he's shilling Genchink. That right there should tell you he has yellow fever and isn't worth paying any attention to.
>>30948131NIjiseethe
>>30948131lieverse is going to be DOA just like that shit mix project takt:op
>>30947885ToF doomed themselves when they started calling themselves as "Genshin killer". You don't put killer in front of a word with G in it. Rosemi killer, Vox killer all exists but there's no G*** killer. Tell me, which popular vtuber has a G infront of them? None, right? It's only unique to Goomba.
>>30947948Anycolor is doing far worse mate, they paid almost twice the tax that Cover did and we have zero idea as to why they have 4 fucking billion yen sitting in their accounts doing absolutely fuck all...would be hilarious if executive pay increases by about 10000% next year.
>>30948112Fucking retard that associates meta verse with crypto pajeet scam
>>30948112See, you have flawed description of "metaverse" because of Zuckerberg and crypto shit.
>>30948271Kek yeah, that above all should have tipped me off I was talking to a chink sympathizer.
>>30948263Well now they are.
>>30948271>Genshin is made by chinese devs so I'm just going to ignore factsGet the fuck out of numbers, bitch
>>30948263HoloError VR. TGS hosts a ton of smaller companies/indies every year.
>>30947405Judging the genshin graphics and the content they put out, they barely spend anything developing the game
>>30948131lieverse is just a VN, but they are still gonna get an anime from kadokawa soon
>>30948232baqua
>>30948361I wish
I just want Holo to recreate a big war in Rust with multiple faction, just like the good old Sengoku era. That shit would blow my fucking mind
>>30948282The streamer that has the largest superchat earned for a 3D debut begins with a G.
>>30948131>Anykara literally has a game coming outno they don'tif you're talking about Lie Verse, it's a manga and LN, no game has been announced so far
>>30948350Genshin spends all that money everywhere BUT genshin's gameplay.
>>30948354>animelieverse is just a cliche anime fantasy story about highschoolers gaining power to travel a mirror realm, and that realm is gonna invade or destroy the real world. These "awakened" fellas are gonna save the world.
>>30948263Anon, TGS is not just for big companies. Indies and small companies also participate there.
>>30948209Fortnight is a game with some social aspects grafted onto it.
>>30948354Holy shit, Anykara is woeking fast. An anime will increase the global Niji mindshare for sure.
If you say the holo alt game is a genshin killer one more time then its gonna flop so bad
>>30948386give it time anon, we're still in the rising action of RUST S2 only small skirmishes here and therethe big war would probably be when S2 wipe is near tho like the miko home raid back in S1
>>30948396He's a 2k shitter, he already got killed long ago
>>30948432Ergo it's a metaverse
>>30948350Yeah they spent more money for Honkai than for Genshin.
>>30948112> he drank from the poisoned wellngmi
>>30948399I like seeing genshin shitters seethe when all their money is getting funnelled back to honkai which these retards shit on back when genshin first released
>>30948271Wait, someone is unironically shilling Genshit? Do we have an actual zhang in our midst right now?
>>30948354> VNit's an LN anonchama
>>30948016Guess they have been working hard on Holoearth for them to be confident on showing it on the stage. Or maybe a new project
>>30943814Of course notBut they can still mismanagement like the rest of the branch that will cause a lot of seething for all the potential wasted
>>30948484And it still works because the brand genshin is enough to keep the gachabrains hooked. Just like how a craftopia clone with hololive brand on it will succeed without even spending on marketing
>>30948502genshin money used to invest on the rest of the company is HEALTHY like Cover's financials amrite?
>>30948525they're not showing holoearth they're showcasing holoerror
>>30948525It's for Holoerror VR. Holoearth isn't close yet.
>holobronies mad because their talent's can't play ToF or Genshin at their peaks for streaming
>>30948207She's not a latina, she's Latinx
>>30948536The problem is mihoyo doesn't spend that money advancing their company they just spend it on more marketing and sponsoring Nijisanji kek
This is the timeslot that she routinely streams at and there's very little overlap. Why don't people want to watch her stack little birds on top of alpacas or whatever the fuck she does in that game?
>>30948564
>>30948564>yellow bugman feelers wrote this post
>>30948509>zhangNah, just a faggot with yellow fever, probably also a SEAnigger considering how much they seethed after being ignored.
>>30948564>hololive cant play chinsse game>nijikeks still seethingRent free
>>30948593Because illuna sucks
>>30948248They showed the gameplay already. It's an open world building game with quest NPCs to give you gear and extra resources
>>30948593because I'm supporting Nenecchi. She desrves it more
>>30948564>Horse gacha>GBFGenchink is dead. When was the last time a streamer got 20k with it?
>>30948591anon mihoyo being able to develop two games at the same time after genshin's success didn't come out of nowhere
>>30948645Rust is basically how holoEarth would turn out
>>30948550>>30948558Fuck me yeah it's error. Unless earth has vr supported
is saying "Kiryu Coco" still banned in Genshit chat
I'm confusedWhy are you all discussing genshin and TOF when they get shit numbers with them
>>30948248What do you mean, they already have the "base" gameplay already, some talents streamed it on the main channel months ago
>>30948677irrelevant cygameshit, like dragalia lost and all their other flops
>>30948611Are gacha games popular in SEA?
>>30948596Nijikeks love to deflect
>>30948716yes
>>30948678Gotta update this anon, you're missing the literal MLP watchalong.
>>30948585You're confusing scarle with maria
>>30948704It's closer to Rust then Minecraft. It has a more action gameplay, kinda like BOTW
>>30948722Lize got good numbers with Genshin gacha actually. But then again it can be applied to all gacha streams.
>>30948722I think this discussion started from hololive missing out on the launch of genshin because the Taiwan yab conveniently just happened and now they're missing out on the FOTM genshin clone
>>30948687Both of those games were already planned before Genshin blew up because Honkai has been in it's twilight years for a while now.Genshin blowing up helped and probably altered plans somewhat. But Star rail and ZZZ were planned before the blow up. We know this because mihoyo's dev teams leak more than NijiEN's discord logs
>>30948677>When was the last time a streamer got 20k with it?A Holo would easily get 30k+ if they got to stream Genshin and do gacha, especially during a new content drop.
>>30948732Mobile Legends is more popular
>>30948773Why didn't they name the spic Maria. That's a common ass name in my country
>>30948807>We know this because mihoyo's dev teams leak more than NijiEN's discord logsDrip marketing works
>>30948732Gacha games are popular everywhere anon
>>30948722The convo started off more about how Genshin can't collab with Genshin like they did way back with Azur Lane and how that's a lost opportunity for them, combined with holoearth posting.
Nodoka is so cute!
>>30948732Naturally, if it has gambling in it then it'll be popular.
>>30948809Migo got 60k on horse gacha.
>>30948865Shut up Axel
>>30948807there's still the unnamed first person shooter they still have in the works. anyway all this chink shit doesnt belong in this thread . tough luck with Hololive and china but who still cares in 2022. Genshin is numbers poison
>>30948732Gacha games are so popular that every AAA game adopted loot boxes because they saw the model was so successful
>>30948865Axel?
>>30948483Then every online game is a "metaverse". Rendering it an entirely pointless term.
Everyone knows the real Genshin killer will be Arknights: Endfield anyway. Mihoyo shaking in their boots.
What guests does Polka have for her live? I gotta figure out if I should wake up early to see it.
>>30948807still surprised the mihoyo EN marketing team thought it would be a good idea to sponsor honkai for the shitter fish and the retard mysta when their audience wouldn't give a shit or are already old players in the first placeplenty of other honkai creators could've taken that slot and advertised it better
>>309489698k base. Reclining
>>30948956Correct, metaverse is a buzzword that people just slap onto anything nowadays.
>>30948969Luca on the tally!
>>30948809Gura can easily get 40k with gacha. Easy gold for hololive
>>30948956The mixture of game and live content (concerts, watch alongs, ect) is what makes it "metaverse". That's what cover is going for
>>30948980More like Wuthering Wave
Since it's dead hours, what do you guys think?Real sisters or larping Tempus fans from /here/?
I just got these recommendedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UvWjKLI44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJE-hUERfzM
>>30948980I don't know why more gacha games don't go into other genres with the same characters/setting. I mean obviously a lot of gacha shit games are spinoffs themselves like FF, FE, F/GO, etc, but a few like Pricunny, Epic Seven, Honkai Impact, etc are not spinoffs.
>>30948593nijikeks said she's EN SalomeWhat happened?This is just another Rosemi
>>30948980genshin will die on their own.people will drop it because their device cant afford to play it anymore.
>>30949102Ok I love doxx fujos drinking the tempus coolaid and dunking on iluna as much as anyone, but how the fuck can they say that the tempus song is good
>>30949102>Tempus just released their song, and it's really good>using rrat unironically>actually thinking ILUNA was rushed out because of TempusThey're delusional Tempus sisters, some of them probably from here
>>30949181salome is just jp rosemi
>>30949102Those are all me.
>cripple tally is Magni, Ike, Noir, Luca, Fauna, and soon Mysta HoloEN... stream... also NijiEN... save them...
>>30949108I got that as well. Those clips got algorithm's blessing.
sir, the nipple is erect
>>30949238Come on, that's mean
>>30949266KEK
>>30949152Gachas are quick cash grabs. They cost almost nothing to make and they can milk the whales a lot until they go EoS
>>30949203>songIt is. Just lacking on good vocals hence people has split opinion
>>30949274no, go watch them. no difference. salome a bit more talkative but same shtick
>>30949203>>30949226This is from the iLUMA thread and I'm pretty sure everyone who uses the doxxsite is from here.Just surprising to see Tempus getting lots of positive traction in iLUMA's thread on NijiEN's main site.
>>30949266wow that one spiked down a lot more than it went up. Usually it's close to symmetric.
>>30949203It just sucked because 3/4 tempus members don’t know how to sing. Astel mogged Tempus when he sang Top of the World in his last karaokehttps://youtu.be/mQd6UEB6fcI
>>30949102>larpingthe lack of dislikes show that it's not larping
>>30949323I'm not watching Rosemi . Salome is very entertaining just one note.
if it were up to me only steams between the hours of 8AM PT to 10PM PT should count for the EN tally
>>30949345Tempus got surprisingly good reception there yeah. It's possible those are just the unitysisters that do show up here sometimes.
>>30948969Do we count Z peak when it comes to Median?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1559432569636225025?s=21&t=GrjVXsbAg5dk2K1quuSweQMore meeting?
>>30949102It's NijiEN's site, if the sisters didn't actually have the same kind of impression on iLuna/Tempus, shits will just get disliked to oblivion. It's all green here.
>>30949422I think chart anon just scrapes the data so yeah. Luca's median is usually around 8-9k anyways so this stream pre-Z was going to be at his median or slightly higher regardless.
>>30949152Good spinoffs in other genres are probably harder to make, especially if you're going from a 2D game to an isometric game or a full 3d open world game.
>>30948112No, he's right. Fundamentally speaking, any online game with a cross-brand deal is functionally a metaverse experience. That's what Japanese normally refer to when talking about "Metaverse".Even Meta's (that's Facebook's name now) metaverse experience (Horizon something) and VRChat are just glorified MMOs even on the most basic level. What everyone is trying to achieve though, is cross-compatibility of services to allow for assets to be reusable everywhere (which is an almost impossible hurdle to cross) and to make both AR and VR interoperable. That this shit came up because of Blockchain technology making it mainstream doesn't mean that any of that is necessary to make it work.
>>30949506REALITY is the only real metaverse experience atm
>>30949405You'd disquality half of Mumei's karaoke streams, she loves late night guerillas
>>30947915>"go sit in a field and watch a movie with Miko"My Brother in Christ, do you know how many people would want to PAY to do that shit?
>>30949561If it were up to me unarchived karaokes would also be disqualified.
>>30948016>Cover next to fucking CapcomMan, this timeline is wild ...
>>30948282Woah there this is borderline delusion. Especially the weird fixation with G
>>30949600rude
>>30949600>unarchived karaokes are much bigger buff for NijiEN than HoloEN and pretty much their only chance at getting 15k+Worthy sacrifice imo
>>30948016All big names on list of Exhibitors damn
>>30948016>discroniaOh this is that VR game that has Suisei as the opening theme singer.
>>30949405>>30949600Tell me you're a Holonigger without telling me you're a Holonigger
>>30948016NO LGBTCOLOR LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how nazuna number lately? i hear there a drama
>>30947915>go sit in a field and watch a movie with your oshi You realize this would likely be one of the top grossing games of the year, right?Think of Subaru Steins;Gate recent watchalongs. She’s pulling 15k+ and the show isn’t even at the screen. Imagine Cover makes a deal with, let’s say, Kadokawa and can, in VR, show the actual anime like this>pic related (except maybe sitting on a field) ans Subaru can have the actual watch along with her audience, complete with her avatar and the audience 3D avatar as well loitering around Cover wouldnt even need to change for the game, they could just rent the anime being shown and live out of the commission they would get
>>30949760https://youtu.be/6Nuq19fiFt0Yeah, I haven't heard this song in 8 months
>>30948732The only thing more popular would be MOBA
>>30929409 Unitychads we are WINNING
>>30949907It's worthless if nothing happens
>>30949907Im not watching Regis anymore. Fucking faggot
>>30949819She went to a male's (Kuzuha's friend) channel and talked with males non stop
>>30949819Sub 8k, don’t think any drama can sink her much lower than the anemic viewership she’s getting on Twitch.
>>30949948
>>30945973>"I don't want to lose partnerships, so I just shut up and dribble."
Anyway what is this about Axel yab?I keep seeing this across catalog
>>30949907GoodHe can have MillieLeave Ame to us
>>22251817If anyone's wondering, my calculation has been around ~10 days off initially scheduled. Fuck you niggers for doubting me. See you in november when Vox passes Kiara
>>30950023see >>30949108
>>30950023Uncle Nowa draw him being horny and slipped the fact he is ACTUALLY interested in Nodoka
>>30950023nah just axel is based
>>30950023Axel likes the new holostaff girl and talks about her with the rest of tempus. Nowa is an Achan man
Towa seems to have caught on to the algo with her new song, also funny to see her converting some of the FPSfags from her outside collabs into idol appreciators.
>>30949108
>>30949983jesas
>>30950023Axel has a great taste
>>30949828>less than 10k viewsoof, this doesn't look promising
>>30950073Tsuneyami Toi…
>>30950072>nobody wants Omega… ;-(She’s cute! >YOU WILL DESIRE HER TOO!ADMIT IT!
>>30950073something something Hololive is a cult>>30950137>her
>>30949983Will she watch the Sankisei collab that will get 10x her viewship this week
>>30950137I will fuck his tight bussy and free my boys form their chains
>>30949907Quick, what's the equivalent of chilis in Flipland?
>>30950048Incredible grudge post but congrats I guess>>22251879 lmaaaaao what a chump
>no EN streamed todayCover scouts are god tier btw
>>30950048I still Vox will slow down eventually, but if not this November, he'll pass Kiara eventually. Her sub growth is basically non-existent at this point.
Feels good to be a nijiChad we keep on WINNING every single dayHolo JP who? HoloEN who? kek
>>30948956congrats on learning what a "buzzword" is
>>30950316>Feels good to be a brony chinkFixed it for youNow stfu and crawl back to whatever 3rd world shithole you came from
Genshin - Hololive, popular everywhere in the world and actually full of qualityFGO - Nijisanji, only popular in Japan, panders to lowest common denominator trash
>>30950379The irony...
>>30949907Not with Zhang li at the helm
>>30949907based, Homos have always been the trojan horses to leech viewership away from girls that compete with holo
>>30950316GORGE ON MY SHIT FUNGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS
>>30950119is this how she got all those nicknames? google and deepl seem super confused when her name is used in the middle of a sentence.
>>30950267Fauna literally streamed today, based retard