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>>30793002* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>245,881: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>75,845: Marine (Hololive)>66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>43,541: Botan (Hololive)>35,431: Subaru (Hololive)>27,094: Fubuki (Hololive)>26,774: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>25,830: Luca (Nijisanji)>25,692: Subaru (Hololive)>25,644: Salome (Nijisanji)>23,968: Pekora (Hololive)>18,867: Anya (Hololive)>18,451: Fubuki (Hololive)>18,370: Belmond (Nijisanji)>16,091: Korone (Hololive)>14,679: Miko (Hololive)>14,278: Iroha (Hololive)>13,741: Hinano (VSPO)>13,740: Watame (Hololive)>13,131: Mumei (Hololive)>12,449: Bae (Hololive)>12,233: Nene (Hololive)>12,153: Koyori (Hololive)>12,116: Okayu (Hololive)>11,795: Botan (Hololive)>11,541: Lamy (Hololive)>11,318: Roboco (Hololive)>11,097: Koyori (Hololive)>10,895: Matsuri (Hololive)>10,891: Salome (Nijisanji)
>>30793002/news/ roundup for 13-08-2022 >>30731990Recent clip numbers>>30720467>>30720508 >>30720644 >>30720671
>>30793002* YESTERDAY’S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY *>25,830: Luca (Nijisanji)>18,867: Anya (Hololive)>13,131: Mumei (Hololive)>12,444: Baelz (Hololive)>8,148: Luca (Nijisanji)>8,038: Kaela (Hololive)>7,664: Mysta (Nijisanji)>6,966: Shu (Nijisanji)>6,462: Enna (Nijisanji) *Z: 7,238*>5,995: Pomu (Nijisanji)>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nijisanji) – 25,830 (Nijisanji Koshien B League Watchalong)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 10Nijisanji – 3>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii, Luca>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 5Nijsanji - 8>SILVER PER STREAMER3x: Shu1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Reine, Elira, Anya>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 9Nijsanji - 4>BRONZE PER STREAMER3x: Kobo1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen, Mumei
koyori for the love of god stop being a stubborn retard for 3 seconds, you literally locked yourself into a sub 5k stream for no fucking reason you stupid bitch
>>30793082SILVER>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden>7) 90,537: Flare (Hololive) 3D Anniversary LIVE>8) 57,151: Lui (Hololive) English telephone game>9) 50,718: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive Summer 2022 #2>10) 42,087: Kanata (Hololive) Swimsuit Reveal>11) 92,357: Aqua (Hololive) 4 year anniversary 3D LIVE>12) 73,157: Lamy (Hololive) 2nd Anniversary Live>13) 75,845: Marine (Hololive) Gen3 Quiz> PER COMPANY3x: Nijisanji10x: Hololive> PER STREAMER2x: Pekora, Hololive1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Fuwa, Subaru, Flare, Lui, Kanata, Aqua, Lamy BRONZE>1) 41,478: Marine (Hololive) 2M celebration>2) 35,749: Leos (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,004: Lize (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>4) 42,706: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien*>5) 51,947: Tsukasa (Indie) Niji Koshien>6) 46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>7) 58,272: Ike (Nijisanji) SINGING 700k>8) 56,144: Shiina (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>9) 46,337: Pekora (Hololive) Marika 8DX w/ swimsuit>10) 30,367: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic>11) 43,626: Marine (Hololive) [some game she made in highschool]>12) 57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>13) 66,686: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien> PER COMPANY3x: Hololive9x: Nijisanji1x: Indie> PER STREAMER2x: Shiina, Marine, Nijisanji1x: Leos, Lize, Tsukasa, Hayato, Ike, Pekora, Fuwa
Nijisanji brand power is proof that individual liver does not matter, something that Yagoo and Cover can't understand.
>>3079300214) niji gold (Koshien 2022 finals)15) ??16) holo gold (Polka anniversary)17) holo gold (Shion anniversary)18) holo gold (Holo summer live)19) niji gold (EdenGumi 3D debut)20) holo gold (Mio birthday)21) ??22) ??23) ??24) ??25) holo gold (Holo summer live)26) niji gold (EdenGumi 3D debut)27) niji gold (Koshien 2022 allstars 4th week)28) holo gold (Holo summer live)29) Usaken Summer Festival30) holo gold (Holo summer live)31) niji gold (Fuwa last morning radio)
Niji viewer's oshi is NijiKoshien
>retarded MK number comparison even though VOD views increased Year-over-year and it happened during the peak of CCVID One day, we'll have the tech to bitchslap shitposting faggots across the internet.Today is not that day.
>all those teacuck threads on the catalogMy sides are in fucking orbit lads
>>30793328last year>AUGUST1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,309 - AR live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,008 - Payday 2 collab3) Miko (Hololive) - 36,181 - GTAV4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,821 - Winning Eleven collab5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 52,844 - Eden-gumi profiles6) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 156,062 - Celebrity APEX7) Flare (Hololive) - 60,571 - 2nd anniversary 3D live8) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,127 - Niji Koshien practice9) Aqua (Hololive) - 84,057 - 3rd anniversary 3D live10) Hal (Indie) - 72,466 - VSaikyo S3 landmark lottery11) Marine (Hololive) - 94,400 - 2nd anniversary 3D12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 65,011 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 147,639 - Niji Koshien 2021 A-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 170,896 - Niji Koshien 2021 B-league15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 205,448 - Niji Koshien 2021 finals16) Ollie (Hololive) - 52,687 - Costume reveal17) Shion (Hololive) - 55,615 - 3D birthday18) Gura (Hololive) - 42,455 - Unarchived karaoke19) Watame (Hololive) - 42,288 - 3D announcement20) Mio (Hololive) - 58,031 - 3D birthday live21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,128 - APEX custom22) Hal (Indie) - 132,049 - VSaikyo S3 tournament23) Kronii (Hololive) - 94,966 - HoloEN debut24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 51,404 - Poker Chase collab25) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 108,077 - Niji Koshien exhibition match26) Marine (Hololive) - 32,311 - Mario Kart27) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 30,318 - Nijinoon28) Furen (Nijisanji) - 98,761 - 3D debut29) Kronii (Hololive) - 43,355 - Council meeting30) Miko (Hololive) - 32,917 - Mario Party Superstars31) Pekora (Hololive) - 59,204 - Clubhouse 51 totsumachiAugust 1 - 15>holo 5>niji 9August 16 - 31>holo 10>niji 5total>Holo: 15>Nijisanji: 14>Indie: 2
>>30793328>Fuwa last morning radioWTF is this shit.Any link?
Somebody please recommend me more nun chuubas aside from Sister Claire
>>30793477his radio stream has been putting great numbers, and 31st is when he does the last one for the year
>>30793385I feel bad that i said to a teammate that he should trust his oshi a month ago
>3,7K at 10 minsyou stupid bitch you deserve this
>>30792544Came about from this clip I guess : https://youtu.be/8IV1uadSPvsSide note : You can clearly see the sheer difference in how early Lazulight was branding themselves compared to how they are now.
>>30793507you take what you can get
>Koyori schizo
HOLO EVENTS:August 14 Shishiro BotanAugust 16 Omaru PolkaAugust 17 Murasaki ShionAugust 18 Holo Summer liveAugust 19 Shirogane Noel New OutfitAugust 20 Ookami MioAugust 23 Hololive English -Council-August 25 Holo Summer liveAugust 26 Holo Summer liveAugust 27 Holo Summer liveAugust 28 Holo Summer liveAugust 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer liveAugust 31 Holo Summer live
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*>25,830: Luca (Nochairsanji)>13,131: Mumei (Hololive)>12,444: Baelz (Hololive)>8,148: Luca (Nochairsanji)>7,664: Mysta (Nochairsanji)>6,966: Shu (Nochairsanji)>6,462: Enna (Nochairsanji)>5,995: Pomu (Nochairsanji)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Leech party even though we know nothing about NijiJP or Baseball)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 9Nochairsanji - 4Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Vox, Kronii, Luca>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 23Gura: 15Mysta: 9Shu: 9Luca: 9Ike: 8Fauna: 8Kronii: 7Vox: 5Alban: 4Noir: 3Rosemi: 3Selen: 3Elira: 3Baelz: 2Axel: 1Ina: 1Kiara: 1Magni: 1Amelia: 1
Will today surpass yesterday?
Every day I come here happy I already had a foot fetish.
>>30793514Are you the one who made the predictions and if so why do you assume it's going to win? It didn't win last year.
>>30793661im gonna keep going until she's stops being a fucking retard, it's been 2 weeks of this bullshit, that minecraft stream yesterday was actual torture
>>30790197>Luxiem lusting over each other is entertaining>Vox whoring himself is entertainingOgey, Nijisister
Did Aruran get over 1k with Ollie?
>>30793789Definitely. 2434%
>>30793719There will be a nene's live btw
>>30793789Definitely.
>>30793789>Ewiwas channel Eh... 27k max so yes.
>>30793868Yes
>>30793798i didnt but its been putting good numbers and i assume anon is just guessing itll have a good turn out and we dont know anything happening around then
>>30793868How about you stop being lazy and check it yourself?
>>307937891 million peak, easy.
>>30793902Nice, happy for him.
>>30793328>Koshien 2022 allstars 4th weekWait what is this?
>>30793942I’m not. The stupid zoombie taught him words like “sussy baka” on that stream
>>30793882When?
>>30793973Another koshien after their tournament is finished
>>30793990Aruran is not a retard. He knows that's a joke term and only use it as a when needed
>>30794043No more like what's with the gap between Koshien final and whatever this event is
>>30794043Koshien is basically Vtuber Superbowl at this point. And I noticed that people here are starting to tune in to the event as well. This is why brand power is important in the long run.
>>30794041She hasn't announced it.
>>30793507well there is that one kawaii girl that has a nun costume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDSEWq-vUw&t=6487s
Just like how HoloCure saved every Holo, Rust is having the same impact
>>30794169All thanks to gura's existence in the server.
>>30794169What are HoloCure and Rust? Power Pro is the meta this time.
>>30794152I know you love throwing that term around but this have nothing to do with brand power
>>30794159Nice, but I already have a Nene
>>30793250Ok what is she doing and why is it bad
>>30794214Does Power Pro have a steam version? Seeing NijiEN so hyped about the game makes me want to buy it.
>>30794247Ignore the koyoschizo anon.
https://youtu.be/H7DhJ7ZYx6cGold?
>>30794152All my friends who watched hololive are now watching niji and their koshien.It seems like people are tired of hololive's boring streams.
>>30794267ps1 exclusive
>>30794169Minecraft is literally right there
>>30794214I think Koshien this year might have helped Power Pro gain a much bigger following in the West.
>be EST>miss the dramakek ame really collabed and sang fly me to the moom with blue faggot. my insomnia became useful for once
>>30794213More so that some kino shit is happenning in the background with Pekkers
>>30794247rrts as usual, shes the target of the month
>>30794214only for popular livers tho. unpopular livers can go cry in the corner
>>30794214Gweilu didn't get the notice then
>>30794313She didn't Collab. You should take some sleeping pills and a cup of whiskey, that helps me sleep
>>30794289Mine friends too.That can explain why hololive's number is decreasing.
>>30794247she's been phoning in every stream and not preparing at all, scheduling horribly and barely caring, and now she locked herself into re7 when everyone else is doing rust when she's fucking awful at this and is literally taking her own only gimmick out by cutting this into daily shit, she doesn't know what her strengths are, she doesn't take advantage of anything, she's literally just throwing shit at a wall an expecting it to work
>>30794304What are you talking about? All I see is minecraft with better shaders and guns mod, not that it's a bad thing
>>30794289So does mine.
>>30794390if they didn't collab what the fuck is catalogue talking about? did they sing together or no
>>30794152>brand powerYeah, Koshien's brand power. You know what Koshien is right?
>Dumb flipfags invading the threadPlease kindly eat pagpag, get sick, and promptly die.
>200k "people">noone here gives a shit>2434 is slow as a motherfucker
>>30794313I have exclusive video evidence of Ame collabing with m*le vsingers from a year ago, they tried to keep it buried keeping it unarchivedhttps://youtu.be/KPcUO6EgTrE
>>30794289Yeah hololive is boring that's why I switched to niji.
>>30794390I guess she just decided to use his recording because no one else has sung that song before.
Some starving 3rd wold beggars are here, here's some pagpag, now leave
>>30794528Ame used a vid from his Unarchived Karaoke to sing a song. If that counts as a Collab, she just did a Collab with all of EN and some of ID
>>30794549why you keep replying to youself bro. dnt try too hard to shill lol
>>30794544bitch, i know that's gura's duolingo. i may be phonefagging but i know the link too well
>>30794289anon the chatbots aren't actually talking to you...
>>30794612Is this holokek's daily meals?Feel bad for them.
>>30793385Pretty sure 90% of them are just pretending.Teammate oldfags are Larsfags not Goslings.
>>30794645The voices in your head must not be working properly, it's Ame singing Feel Good
>>30794645dumbass
>>30794289>>30794426>>30794502>>30794549(you)
>>30794630How the fuck is that a shill when I'm speaking the truth.Just face it hololive IS boring.
>>30794556It was fly me to the moon. If you look up "fly me to the moon holo" he is the 8th person on that.list
>>30794736I'm with you bro.Holokeks just can't take the truth.
>>30794736i see so you prefer gay content. go away from here and go to lgbt thread.. shooshoo
>>30794741I was being sarcastic
>>30794702then i dodged another bullet. sorry, i don't listen to whores. better off posting gura duolingo
>>30794556Yeah, but the retards would post that unironically
Thread is swarming with Pagpags huh.
>>30794823>holokeks are anti-lgbtThat is why less and less people watching your whores retard
Amazing how 1 person can shit up a thread so much. There's literally oodles of bait threads on the catalog where you can mess with fragile unicorns, go have fun there.
>>30794902Yup, so many Flies in /vt/ today
>>30794862https://youtu.be/3phaXN_FjiEAme talking about why she sang with him
>>30794736>>30794808Here suck on this
>>30794962LMAO is this the new rickroll?
>>30794987Kanata would be vastly improved with giant tits
don't mind me
>>30794289Glad we are thinking the same way Nijisis!
>>30794808heres the truth.
>>30795078>buff game>only 4.4kUh…holokeks?What are you trying to prove?
>>30794987>>30795035
A guy so bored that he reply on his own thread?
>>30794927so you admit they are gay
>taking ironic Niji posting seriouslyIt's just a joke retards, either play along or ignore it. God you guys are so fucking stupid sometimes, let us have some fun.
>>30795204>let us have some funMori...
100k waiting its over... 500k incoming
>>30795204Fuck off to the catalog, we're sick of this shit you spew day in and day out, go bait some newfags instead.
>>30795078HoloEN box: 4kNijiEN box: 31kNot the own you think it was
>>30795176nijikek are a bunch unemployed fujo. please understand
>>30794323>>30794213Can't beat the Pecock...https://youtu.be/DQPEgYHpBA4「Nani do you want?」wtf Sharky, good thing Pekora's English comprehension improved quite a bit.
Speaking of numbers, we are really living in an age where android emulators take up more memories than an AAA game and even Chrome itselfFuck Bluestack
Kanatan 20k get.
>>30795149>battle sim>buffNijiniggers buff standard is so low, they cant event compete against a single MagLord
>>30794927So you really are one, here let me help you, you should be going to>>/lgbt/
>>30795262you really counted them all? why nijikek always doing useless thing
It's amazing how fubuki can get 27k playing rust, then <4k playing FFXIV
>>30795317I use LDPlayer now, even if it's Chinese
>>30795399what, you mean content actually matters for 95% of chuubas and you can't just spam debuff shit
>>30795262>nijibox>still lost to holostars in terms of ccvque? i thought box was strong? i thought iluna was best thing since sliced bread?
>>30795399she should do mahjong gambling in ffxiv
Where the fuck did all these people go?
>>30795399It's because she make a name for herself being the gambling lord of Rust server
>>30795249quality threads tonight. I mean, he's not wrong
>Koyori actually sub 10k and looking like a 8.5k peakKoyoschizo aside, what went wrong? I thought she was a 10k floor chuuba
I'm getting StarsEN clips in my Hololive only account. Do they have any "major" clippers or somethingm
>>30795455The teaser was used as an Ad, Anon....
>>30795381They're not true nijiFansThey're NijiNiggers
why kanae keep playing zhang tower of fantasy game?game so shit, it keeps hurting his CCV
What do you guys think?
>>30795498Some collabeggars like oboretai and alpha k sometimes clips them
>>30795559>FTLI kneel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwrKDTkWGIStarting soon. Final predictions? Gonna say 300k.
>>30795559Tabletop rpg with Best Uncle?Nice!
>>30795477i've literally told you all week, she gave up, half her streams are just mumbling now, she doesn't plan anything anymore, she schedules shit 20 minutes before, she just plants her ass on prime time, overlaps everyone and cuts it 2 hours inyesterday's minecraft stream is a great example of this: she scheduled it 30 mins before, came to the festival grounds without knowing: the rules, what she was gonna build, without having any materials and towa literally had to come save her, and then she proceeded to look up tutorials on youtube and google of shit to build, only to give up on half of it after trying for 20 minutes
>>30795559That table top lecture feels like it will get 2.5k or like 8.9k
>>30795559>FTL with someone who will have done their homework before streamingI kneel
>>30795559I don't want the usual bitches sucking off the lifeforce off Noir and Magni.
>>30795317>Using bluestackThat's where your problem is
>>30795590290k-318k range
>>30795559Active, good. Games are not my cup of tea, but from # perspective apex should be a decent outing.
>>30795590300k +/-10% is pretty safe considering the numbers we've seen.Now guess how much of a boost their normal streams get once Koshien is done.
So, all it took was 1-2 person to shit stir the thread huh.*yawn*
>>30795559>ftlbased based basedHope he plays into the breach
>>30795559BASED SCHED
>>30795559all his schedule are zatsudan in disguise lol
>>30795590At this point I would be shocked and outraged if they didn't get 290-310k.
>>30795710Every stream is a zatsudan in disguise
>>30795204Anon nijifans actually, really, seriously, frantically and unironically believe those talking points, even outside of this thread.Sarcastic shitposting only works when the sarcasm is far enough from reality.
There are a lot of people in this board who haven't watched Hololive before 2021 and it shows
mayuyu bros. your graduation gonna losing to koishien shit.
>>30795617I dunno how much of what you said to take seriously though since you've had a serious hate boner for Koyori for the past few days
So it's a fight between 3rd, 2nd and 1st place for tonight's koshien right? No top 4-8 bullshit?
>>30795590Less than 50 posts that are actually discussing the contentMore than 500 posts of "seething" and falseflagging
>>30795774Why do you think this thread is tourist central? A lot of anons come and go here, get info/news/baits from here and even blame /#/ for every rrat that gets out
>>30795664That's all it always takes when they can samefag and reply to each other. At least thread IDs would make it easier to spot, but given that a meido got caught samefagging in hlgg I doubt we'll ever get that.
>aia on screenabort abort
>>30795811im fucking membered to her and i've watched every single one of her streams and the only times i've turned off her stream in frustration were her collab with lui on ark which was probably the worst collab i've ever watched and her minecraft stream yesterday
>>30795818Match 1 7th placeMatch 2 5th placeMatch 3 3rd placeMatch 4 champion
>>30795818I don't understand what you mean, but here's the schedule
>>30795900Will this thing get EN gold? Can it beat a Tempus collab?
Holobrown status???
It seems like /mans/ has become the collabeg general after 1 collabs
>>30795939riku and konami. if you want to rigged the match dont make it too obvious lol
>>30795958I know this is a false flag, but I might as well answer with a serious guess. 30k imo. Luca's watchalong yesterday got 25k and this is the finals.
>>30795927>>307959394 games? They're playing till midnight + closing announcements? Oh ok
Current ranking
>>30795559FTL rag I KNEELIs that the captain edition? The normal one is plain boring.
>>30795958it has a 60k, 20k and 15k vtuber100k and then the moon
>>30795792So? Keep seething holonigger
>>30796017Enjoying Duck P4 NijiNigger
>>30795939The same fking match like last year...150+ livers doko???
>>30795719Need to ramp up that farm for the finals, that room must be quite hot today
>>30796210Indochads, i kneel.
>>30795939Never seen this stupid tournament structure, it's not even a proper bracket. Was assuming it would be group stages to determine seedings for the knockout stage instead of whatever this is.
>>30796215Newfag
>Literally only [Anime} as title>no subs other than JapaneseThe fuck happened? Was the intern half asleep when he uploaded this?
>>30796210Beaten by Indog mobile legend tournament, koshien is a flop lmao.
>>30796210>MOBA shitGross. I hope NijiEN Gamers are literally all just ML streamers
>>30796297If they do that the tournamanet will end in like 1 hour.
>>30796340Yeah some intern definitely fucked up
>>30796340A-chan was too tired after I fucked her all night long, pls andastan...
>>30796412Wouldn't it be 7 matches instead of the 4 we get here?
>>30796340it's fixed
jesus christ the memberships
>>30796340Yea, that sounds like someone's getting yelled at.
>>30796107How long is this freaking thing? 8 hours?
>>30796478They are just deciding the final placements. 1st match is for 7th and 8th place, second match is for 5th and 6th place etc they are just maximizing viewership.
>>30796525Don't look fixed to me. The JP title was correct to begin with, it's on the EN title and subtitles they buggered. Maybe the translator didn't make it in time?
>>30796634>1 match = around 20-40 minutes>Breaks = 10 minutes> 4 matches = >2 hours>Closing announcement = 1-2 hoursWe're looking around 3-4 hours
>>30796340The title's all there if your language is set to japanese, so I think they just messed up something in YT Studio.
>>30796657weird. it shows title on mine. and has english submaybe yt is bugged again
>>30796532Special Koshien contents are locked behind memberships Crazy, I know, kinda like HoloSummer. So far they've earned more than 60k memberships now
>>30796340that happens with youtube's retarded auto localization feature for titles.Canceling the autotranslate shows a proper title
weird graph. didn't even beat the waiting room.
>>30796729ah, they messed up the english title. you can add translated title for different languages
>>30796751they doubled sales but their operating expenses almost tripledhuh
>>30796532but I thought it was bots?
>>30796826doesn't this prove that cover is deep in the red? they might not make it to 2023 at this rate.
>>30796868look at the bottom of the chart before saying stupid shit
>>30796868No
>>30796826Spending all your money is generally considered good in the corporate world, as it indicates reinvestment into the company and keeps taxes down. But it depends on the company situation. From a horse race perspective bigger profit would be nice but from the shareholder perspective it's far more complicated.
>>30796751Anycolor earned more than 500m yen than Cover and Cover's net is still the same as last year
>>30796935yeah, i was thinking this looked like a sign of reinvestment
>>30796751 (me)Just for comparison, Anycolor
>>30796826It seems like they have decided to reinvest even more than before instead of just sitting on the money they earn
>>30796952how many staff does anykara have? I heard Cover tripled their staff maybe that's why their net didn't go up
>>30796952VSPO earned 1bil yen more than Anycolor your point?
>>30796751>Cover_2022_financials_3>3Where are 1 and 2?
>Koyori 10kAPOLOGIZE!!!
>>30796992Cover really is like an ant compared to Anycolor. Why do people even act like they're competitors?
>>30796992what, it's barely more that cover but they have like quadruple the talents
>>30796997But their net profit is still the same as last year lol, so there's still a lot of money going around despite reinvesting
>>30797043she got saved by subaru ending earlier today, i really wish she didn't and got a lesson but it seems to be a theme for her that no one ever says no to her and she doesn't learn
great, now it will be used by "Cover is in red" schizo without any context
>>30796964>>30797067It depends. Their cost of sales remained relatively proportional, so it could be seen as reinvestment, or rather the investment in staffing catching up to the growth in sales. Results will depend on future years.>>30797031Balance sheet is far less interesting, but sure. Let me stitch it together...
>>30797003around 200, almost the same as Cover after recruiting more staff
>>30796298How are the farms Noor? Ramping it up now?
>>30797031This is the only relevant part of the document for our purposes.
>>30796964So were gonna expect a bigger and better 3D concerts and events then?The 3D's are massive improvement compare to last year.
>>30797003200. Cover 300+
>>30796992>event cancellation loss>150M yenHoly shit.
>>30796751>>30796992>Cover's salary allowances are almost half of Anykara's operating expensesBut you know, Cover is definitely a black company.
>>30797183If we ratio that to liversNiji has 1:1Holo 5:1
>>30797043>Needed a funnel
>>30796751reclining? reclining.
>>30797168from the detail it seems like most of the investment is in producing better merch and hiring more people
>>30797109I can't post this full source but Cover has more than that now.
>>30797107Give us the full document anon
>>30796751They decalred impairment loss in 2022, could that be because of the Rushia termination?>Impairment loss 211,483
>>30797246I'd say they have less than 12 months left at this pace.
>>30796751>>30796992So, it just means that anycolor earns a lil bit more money than Cover despite having 4x the talents, but they didn't use that much money for operations in the past year?
>>30797249there's a game dev devision too working on HoloEarth + existing holo apps
>>30796992>expecting me to believe Cover almost doubled Anykaras net profit without China Good joke.
>>30796751commission work seems to have ballooned for some reason
>>30797282probably. merch cancellation and all that.
>>30797265The fuck is that?
>>30797324Ipo
>>30797324>anycolor earns a lil bit more money than Coverthis is the important part. holokeks need to know their place.
>>30797324Black company etc etc
>>30797342China doesn't do jack shit for Anycolor
>>30797324Hey, Riku's gotta eat too. Who do you think is responsible for the biggest vtuber company in the world?
>>30796751>Doubled Gross Profit, but also massively increased expenses (Hiring of staff, reinvesting in things like Holoalt, etc)Seems pretty healthy to me.
>>30797362employee count
>>30797282That sounds about right, i would love to see the actual sale of Rushia related items after the termination, since they were still in stock and they made it very clear that they provided options for refunds.
>>30796751>>30796992Looks like Cover has bigger expenses compared to Anycolor when their gross profit is close enoughUnfortunately, we can't see the detail of expenses from Anycolor
>>30797324It's all going to Rikus pockets that's why he's a Billionaire and Yagoo is still a broke bitch.
>>30795559> FTLah... home...
>>30797426yeah. riku is one of the 50 richest men in japan and yagoo is a nobody.
>>30797265https://cover-corp.com/recruit/Their recruit shows that they have 236 in October of 2021. Anycolor has 197 in November of 2021. Both don't seem to have any data showing how much they have now.
>>30797373>Nijisanji ENYou see, there's a typo there, it should've been Nijisanji CN
>>30797222nijiniggers will brush this off anonthey dont want you to shatter their illusion
>>30797373No shit, they included China in Other instead of EN
>>30797324yes, that's how anycolor operates, they just shit out talents and barely support them, give them all the same merch and expect them to survive or die on their own, and so they don't have to invest as much on operating costs but still get the benefit if they strike gold once in a while
>>30797408Sorry for the scuffed MTL but we can see some of it. Basically Anycolor didn't expand their staffing much in FY 2022, as the salaries expense did not increase nearly as much as Cover's.
>>30797373To be specific, China in this case is almost CERTAINLY talking about Virtuareal, the CN joint-venture they have with B2. Luxiem, while they earn a good deal from chinese fans, counts as "NijiEN" despite where their fans come from.
>>30797324>Operating income left for anycolor - 4B yen>Operating income left for Cover - 1.8 B yenDespite both of their sales closer to each other and the company has quadruple the amount of talents, what has anycolor been doing with the money the fuck
>>30797265Well, thanks for that anon. Goddamn that's a lot of fucking staff, no wonder their operating expenses went up so much.
>>30797519It all goes into RIku's pocket anon
>>30797267https://www.tdb.co.jp/service/u/1005.jsp?TDBCompanyCode=834019273
>>30796751Nice they’re investing on talent education training and going r&d..
Koyoschizo keeps on losing huh.
>>30797519riku's new yacht
>>30797519It goes to shareholdersNo inside re-investment
>>30797408The documents looks to have a good cashflow, a reinvesment in its own and an expansion on all fronts, it looks like what a healthy business should be
>>30797453https://recgame.jp/company/detail/1370>約300名(2021年11月現在)and thats last year350+ sounds bout right
>>30797490Most likely most of the money goes to B2 rather than Anycolor
>>30797519Have to make share holder happy
>>30797550>Japanese company R&Dit's over
>>30796751>reinvestingGood. Healthier than the previous fiscal year.
>>30797553don't start with that shit, subaru saved her today
>>30797519lgbtcolor is an absolutely soulless black company
Well, that shut up the rrat that Cover is successful now. Can't believe they lost that much money this year
>>30797519Man, that makes it even more shitty that they scrapped NijiID and its management since, being based in Indonesia, they wouldn't have required that much operating cost.
>>30797519Shareholders shares
If they earn as much as Cover, why did they need to do an IPO?
Someone with a business degree tell me who won I didn't graduate HS>>30796992>>30796751
>>30797594Yes, almost certainly, and why the China part gives so little to Anycolor on their reports. >>30797564Does this not need to be disclosed if it's being handed back to shareholders instead of being re-invested or kept as a slush fund in case things go south?
>>30797519I unironically believe that it's been pocketed, because you sure as shit don't see anything of it go to any of their talents in any capacity.
>>30796751https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/5032/financials/income?countrycode=jp
>>30797660More money
Does Hololive have anything lined up that will even be competitive tomorrow? They're up against NijiNoon, so it looks like Hololive will lose 5 days in a row.
>>30797638Yeah I know man, Anykara has the largest economy in the world (China) entirely in their back pocket. Cover keks really thought they could compete? Kek.
>>30797640Riku needed a new yacht, prease understand
>>30797659if you want your money back faster, invest on anycolor, just don't expect it to actually grow as a company
>Taxes for anycolor - 1.3B yen> Taxes for Cover - 600M yen lol
>Anycolor 2021 -> 2022 FR>0.9bn to 2.7bn (3x growth)>Cover 2021 -> 2022 FR>1.2bn to 1.2bn (stagnating)The numbers shows, both on their financial reports and on their viewerships. Cover stagnating and Anycolor skyrocketing, scoring homeruns such as Salome/Luxiem and an ever inclining Koshien.In the other hand cover added like 11 talents (15-20% of their then roster) during the 2022 FY and somehow couldn't even break their last year's net profit. Guess all those merch sales weren't that good.Funny how this would seem surprising if you've only been reading /#/ takes.Just goes to tell how much of an unaware echochamber this thread really is.
>>30796751>Commission paid went from 6k into 660kWhat the hell has happened here?
>>30797745You won't like how much Amazon pays taxes
>Taking number out of context again'Ah, classic nijiniggers tactic
>>30797760probably hiring artists and shit for alternative related stuff
>Pekora, the nationalist that she is, doesn't want to participate to an ID- centered event https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP0BspO_AMEe3aQqqpo89Dg/communityBasedo. But nah the real reason would be that Miko is here.
>>30796751Great this sold info that we prove once and for all that nijisanji is bigger than hololive.>>30797519>>30797490>>30797482Now you fuckers have nothing less to cope for and your about to lose the ccv record. It also show that niji en brings more money to the table than holo en. It's actually factual proof Hololive is not as great as it seem and the fact you fuckers are loseing money is the cherry on the cake. This is the karma you deserve I told you fuckers for months nijisanji was bigger but you did not listen you called me an nijinigger but guess who eating sloppy seconds now holoshit.
>>30797760Merch maybe
>>30797753You do realize that's just extra money?
>>30797680If it goes to the talents they'd have to declare it no? This money is literally just sitting in the company's account.
Anon, should have just posted all of that in dead hours instead of before primetimeNow we will have people larping as /biz/ shitting up the thread
>>30795868this is the reason "lurk more" is a thing.read enough posts, and you start to notice patterns, and once you've lurked enough you'll be able to tell apart shitposters and regulars with ease just from their typing.
ah here comes the illiterate bait
>>30797659Anycolor>Made more money Net+Gross>Doesn't seem to be reinvesting their profit>That's a worrying sign, since a growing company is expected to be reinvesting their profits in other avenues to better chart future watersCover>With less talents, earned relatively close to the same Gross profit as Anycolor>Had way higher expenses as they hired on more staff in the past year>Appears to be reinvesting more of their profits for future avenues of growth, even if some of them may not pan out. This is healthy and is considered very normal in the business world. So, Anycolor made more money, but the gap in gross profits is very close considering the difference in number of talents. Anycolor also isn't spending nearly as much, which makes one wonder where exactly the money is going to go in the next financial year.
>Cover stagnating an in the redAnykara monopoly in the future: Yay or nay?
>>30797760Artists, riggers for outfits etc
Reinvesting towards tech, merch, logistics and staff works for the future/long term, right?
Damn Anykara is dominating Cover. Any chance Riku just buys Cover out right? Imagine if he forces Pekora and King to collab LOL
>>30797877
I mean, what is Cover reinvesting in? They still have shitty games and shitty 3D tech though.
>>30797845I'll try again if I wake up again by primetime.>>30797918Yes but only if you trust the company to spend wisely. I've seen enough companies run the ship into the ground with frivolous spending to know that it's not a sure thing.
Didn't YAGOO said that they have savings for like 10 years or something like that.
>>30797282Perhaps yes, but not because of merch cancelation. Impairment is typically done to long-term assets such as building, equipment, etc. IDK the treatment of Live2D asset, 3D asset, or something like that in accounting side of things but it could very well be impaired, at least theoretically.The other possible explanation is if they impaired their obsolete technologies, such as mocap equipment, old PCs and whatnot.
>>30797956>Imagine if he forces Pekorasounds like a good way to get sued
>>30797659If you think that vtubing is a trend to be exploited go with anycolor you'll get your money back quicker. If you want to invest into growing vtubing go with Cover.
Cover's financial in shambles lmaoooo
>Having bigger net profit compared to Cover>Still need to go publicDoes Anycolor need money for something?
>>30797973>shitty 3D techogey nijifriend
>>30797918Yes, as long as it is within the means of their returns, it's how a company should be, to diversify and reinvest for future growth
>>30798028Riku wants to dip
>>30797973>shitty 3D techNijiniggers doesnt watch stream or even clips as alwaysHave you watch Nijis 3D concerts? as a HoloFAG its laughable, like 2years behind Holos 3D
>>30797760I wonder if they outsourced their games and hololive alt?
>>30798028yes, riku's gold bathroom isn't gonna get built on its own
>>30798028Cashing out their investors, by which I mean Riku since he held 51% and therefore fully controlled all board decisions.
The absolute state of /#/
>>30797973Staff has to be paid, and they have various projects that have yet to release that are costing them money.
so tldr despite having 4x the talents Anykara made 2.7b and Cover 1.8b but Anykara never re-invests shit back to the company so the money is fucking lost somewhere.
>>30798028*Riku need money
>>30798028anon... incase everything goes down, Riku wont be affected
>>30797973Sniff that Nijisis.
>>30798084that's against the current narrative of nijifriendopls stop
>>30798060Alt is 100% outsourced.
>>30797659All signs for Anycolor if you just go by those two documents.
>>30796751> actual Billion Dollar Companyjesas...
>>30798028Short term profit is the name of the game, let us Accelerate together, buy more Anycolor stock!
>>30798123it would make sense why the outsource and commission cost went up so much
>>30797519
where is anycolor's money going to
>>30798084Hey man, you can't call it lost if it all went into Riku's pocket.
>>30798130Yen dumbass
>>30798084Shareholders and to Riku's shell company or some fund raiser, or a fan convention with dead people
>>30798084If you want to do this compare their gross profit, not net profit.
>>30798130Huh, I thought it's in JPY?
>YAGOO with his bunch of menhera hags can compete with bazillion Niji talents and China >this is somehow laughable草
>>30796992So, the number we really need is the executive compensation, to see how much Riku is forking down.
>>30797877>>30797972It really shows that Anycolor is a terrible company to work for. It's baffling to think of supporting such a company when the talents are expendable and treated as mere slaves, never to see any crumb of these big profits.
>>30798189Please don't look at meaningless stats like that, let us focus on how Anykara earns more money, the COMPANY is what is important, not the talent.
>>30798130I remember the infamous yagoo interview (the akb48 comparison) he told that Onyan herself is producing $30000 in a month comparable to something something Resort that earned the same amount
>>30798173/#/'s cope fund
>>30797812
How do we even know that Anyara doesn't reinvest?
>>30798028100% cashing out. There's no reason otherwise given their financials, and iirc, someone posted a Japanese document from Anycolor and one of the reasons for going public was that one of their investors wanted to cash out. >>30797977Well, given the improvements on their 3D and whatnot, I'd say that as long as Yagoo is at the helm they'll spend well enough.
>>30797853I mean, I get that, but you try to tell that to newfags who treat this as reddit without moderation
>>30798173viewfarms are not free
>>30798269In what then?
>>30798269We don'tWe just know that 4 billion is going somewhere but their events this year have been the same as ever
>>30798218Riku owned 51% before the IPO and 40-something% now, he doesn't need big compensation now that the stock price is 30x what he bought in at.
>>30798269If theyre re-investing, its should be in the doc. picrel above.you cant hide it from JP govt. anon
>>30798173
>>30798173Cashing out existing shareholders, 100%. They want their money, and they're taking their share and going home.
So are the Hololive booths at AX, CRX and C100 considered reinvestment as well?
>>30798269Then look at that report and tell me what does they reinvest in.
>>30798084Don’t ruin my narrative!!!
>>30798320How long until B2 and its subsidiaries own more than Riku?
>>30798343No that's marketing.
>>30798269If you're spending money you have to declare it as an expense anon...
>>30797977Thanks anonBtw, if you can post the link, I'm sure news anon will want to link it in his post as wellIt's still related to number after all
so the lieverse was actually a lie...
>>30798269if they're re-investing they will put it in the doc above for commissions, projects etc
>>30798179Yea, the units are in 1,000 yen though (Upper right corner).So 13 billion yen in sales (~100m usd, rounded)
>>30798384Uh anon, marketing means spending money
>>30798381A-Soul 2.0 LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOnot like shitters like gwelu is sniffing even 1% of that yen anyway
>>30798084Anycolor triples their income this year while cover couldn't. That's about what is relevant here.Market shows that quantity is king when it comes to number of talents and cover only has themselves to blame for not following suit.Guess people grew tired of asking >EN3 dokoand just watch/spend on other alternatives instead
>>30798343Of course, they'd be spending for their area, staff, logistics, equipment, etc. but they expect to have large returns from their sales, and it's marketing to a large audience
>>30798269>anon is a business managerBravo, anon. You almost made me feel as retarded as you actually are.
>>30796992do you have the detailed breakdown of this one, anon?
Anycolor's documents are not a mystery, just click the IR section of their website and scroll down to news, 2022 docs are all public. I know we reported on them here at the time but people are acting like they're deeply buried somewhere so herehttps://www.anycolor.co.jp/ir
>>30798381Riku only owns 43% of the company now and Chinese owned companies own 21% of the company(Bilibili owning a huge amount). If any of those fucks get a hold of the last 30%, its fucking doomed
>>30798269Anon, they're a public company.They have to disclose that sort of thing, and if they did it'd show up on their reports. The fact that they didn't means they're just sitting on that cash right now, unless they've spent a whole lot since their last report.
>>30798460marketing is usually counted toward cost of salereinvestment are thing like r&d/product development, staff education, etc.
>>30793002Post old numbers.
>>30798471Good job larping as an idiot anon (Please tell me you're just pretending to be this retarded....)FYI, this is the sort of logic that leads to people getting scammed all the time.
>>30798471
>30798471I know this is shitpost but man, I hate how disingenuous these shitposters are when talking about financial statement.But hey, this is 4chan. This behavior is pretty much expected, I guess.
>>30797753discord gang is up early I see, twisting numbers to fool the masses
>>30798343Only if they spend money on such an endeavor. Otherwise, it's all income.
>>30796826didn't they just get a new office/building recently?together with all the new staffsof course expenses will be higher
>>30797753YOUR MATH REPS ANONCHAMA...
At times like this, I wish there were anons with real business experience to analyze the financial reports. The shit flinging in here makes it hard to know how well these two companies are doing.
>>30798596i'm surprised they haven't shitted up the catalog saying how cover is in the red with the fiscal report
>>30798553Are you going to make an argument or just continue pretending that cover is anywhere near ahead of Anycolor?
>>30798613been almost a year since they moved to the new office
>>30797956yep, more money for me, thanks nijifriend.
>>30798594Meant for >>30798471
>>30798636But that's not nearly as fun and requires IQ
>>30798636There likely has been, but saying "I have a business major/studied business/own a small business" on 4chan is about as trustworthy as "I have a bridge to sell you". I'll say this much: I want to see what Anycolor's numbers look like once the lockout period for current shareholders is done.
>>30798636Anon there are some anons here that fit that category. Just filter out the shitflingers and you should be able to check the general consensus on how both of them are doing.
The chart is not even that hard to understand...Also Cover doubled the salary allowance, tripled welfare expenses, and tripled education and training expenses but black company, am I right?
>>30798499I think he owns another 8 through a holding company so it's not listed under him.
Cover has lower net income because they reinvest in a lot of stuff to increase the longevity of vtubing. Why isn't Anykara doing the same since they're at the top?
>>30798113who's this high school dropout?
This is really boring. At approximately what time will the baseball game hit its peak? I want to take a quick nap.
>>30798774Well they did put more effort into HoloX
Towers with the unity
>>30798789Think anon, you can get better stuff for your talents OR you can buy a mansion and a yacht. A fucking yacht bro.
>>30798789VTA exists dumbass that's better than Cover reinvesting into useless projects that don't produce new livers
>>30798471> Anycolor triples their income this year while cover couldn't.this is the way, thank you for your hard work nijifriend
>>30798636The anon who posted the picrel might be the one your looking forI myself is not shizo enough to search does data myselfNonetheless, you dont need Very high education understand whats in the doc.If you file taxes, the doc is easy to comprehend
>>30798816>This is really boring. At approximately what time will the baseball game hit its peak?kek, just like real baseball. Props to them to make it realistic
>>30798446ah, 10 times off.still, 100M is nothing to scoff at.
>>30798816In 3 hrs
>>30798816Last match is where it'll peak since that's going to be the 1st place match. Go ahead and take a nap for an hour, they're not even done the first match yet by the looks of it.
>>30798715I don't wanna give those braindeads (You) anon.
>>30798816And that isn't boring? Just get your snooze anon and when you wake up, guess wether it passed 300k or not before diving in here again
>>30798269They haven't declared what they are reinvesting in.
>>30798873Ah yeah I completely forgot about themThey did not produce anyone decent, actually it's useless, VTA graduate might as well be a self-taught indie number-wise
>Cover uses money to improve wellfare and benefits of staffDoes this include Holo members or just the office staff?
>>30798873VTA only serves to suck the last remaining pieces of soul out of the company. Anybody that supports it is a bootlicker.
>>30798279is it any wonder that they believe random rrats from this thread with zero critical thought?
>>30798636Both companies are doing fine, great even. Yes, both. To be honest the difference between them is hardly noticeable, they're only about 10% different on sales, and profit numbers are also close when looked at proportionately. When I dig their documents I'm more interested in the differences in business structure (Anycolor is more outsourced, lower staff costs, higher cost of goods, Cover the opposite), because those differences have yet to distinguish the companies but may do so in the future.
>>30798636Simple analogy here is that>Anycolor earns more than Cover but the difference is only 500M yen ~$4M>Sales doubles from last year for anycolor while Sales almost tripled for Cover>Gross profit doubles for Anycolor while Cover almost doubles it>Operating income of anycolor stays at 4B yen despite earning 5.9B yen, they only spent 1.9B yen over the past year>Operating income of Cover is left at 1.8B yen after spending 3.4B yen >Anycolor paid 1.3B yen in taxes (lol)>Cover paid 600M yen in taxes>Anycolor is left with 2.7B yen, Cover maintains at 1.2B yen The best part about this is one company having 4x the talents. In theory, their revenue should double that of Cover and there's no reason for opening an IPO.
>>30798961Includes all of them, holo members are employees as well
Can't wait for picrel to be updated. I wonder what gems of business knowledge he will give us.
>saturating the market is helping the industry
>>30798636post it on /biz/ maybe someone will humor you
>>30798961Holomems are staff aswell anon
>>30798961Anon, given that every Holomem draws a salary and are even being told to take their goddamn vacations (and is why Lamy took a break from streaming for a month), one could rightfully assume this also covers the talents as well.
>>30798961you can find staff wages and executive compensation there too...
>>30799004you have to flood the market as hard as you can so you make the most profit then bail once it becomes slightly unprofitable.
>>30798990>>Anycolor paid 1.3B yen in taxes (lol)>>Cover paid 600M yen in taxeswhy the difference
>>30798816feel free to sleep anon, no one's obligating you to watch this, not even the talents.
>>30798961>they say this while multiple livers talk about being depressed and overworked on stream
>>30799082reinvestments
>>30799058Does Anykara offer benefir for staff and streamers?
>>30799104source this thread yeah?
>>30799004My broshi Vesper told me the vtuber market isnt saturated though...
>>30799082Reinvesting means you get tax breaks of assorted kinds.
this is just sad >>30795957
>>30799069Thats the reason LGBTColor goes to publicRiku now has a escape goat incase of LGBTColor downfall (which is soon)
>>30799082Like how Amazon declares their taxes, it went to expenditures to their own and others
>>30798961No, because Holo members are considered contractors and any time they refer to "salary" on stream they are speaking in laymans terms not in business terms.Multiple talents have said they're considered contractors. And if they were employees there would be no issue bringing them into Japan to do work. Holo talent cut is included in cost of sales, if you want to know where it is (same for Niji).
>>30799082Because they put the money back into the company. When you take profits out of the company they become capital gains and you gotta pay taxes on it.
>>30798990>Anycolor paid 1.3B yen in taxes (lol)>Cover paid 600M yen in taxesThis part is the part I don't get. What the fuck were they thinking here? They sat on a pile of cash and the Japanese gov rightfully told them to fork a fuckton over. Why fuck yourself like this when you could re-invest the money, which you should be doing anyways for continued future growth, and end up paying less taxes. Literally only thing it could possibly be for is to plaster that operating income number in front of investors and say LOOK AT US WE'RE VERY PROFITABLE.
>>30799109Not reinvestments, retard. They just paid more money to the government instead of spending it for the company while Cover only had to pay 600M for the goverment, In dollars, Anycolor fork over $13.5M to Japan.
>>30799104>Japanese mindset that means they need to work themselves to fucking death to the point their managers are the ones who have to tard-wrangle them to take less workThis one is on the talents anon.
>>30799164Lmao they want to force the EOP on 4chan to care? Literally every EOP impression of Koshien is just "Ah Niji baseball thing"
>>30799209Anon he means Cover's re-investments means they pay less taxes.
>>30799164OMG that dude just swing a wood!!! The ball flew wowowowwwwww
>>30799133dunno, I'm not familiar with Anykara
>>30799133>Koroi Shiba had to beg her chat for medical expensesI dunno anon
>>30799082That's how business taxes work, speaking very generally, businesses are only taxed on profits. Anycolor left more of their income unspent as profits, so they have to pay more taxes.
Real Koshien are probably more entertaining to watch
>>30799251oh my bad lol
>>30799179HmmmmYou bring up a good point, that does make sense that if they were fully employees they would've been able to be brought into Japan....
>>30799199>plaster that operating income number in front of investorsWith how much they bended numbers during that presentation i think you are onto something
>>30799230why are you even replying to a shitpost? he probably made the thread himself to prove that no EOP cares about it outside of the niji threads
>>30798084Net sales13.6 vs 14.1they’re really stingy on reinvesting on their talent huh.. what about the family family?
>>30799104> livers talk about being depressed and overworked on streamman sometimes I pity the niji chuubas, they shouldn't have to endure being in a black company...
>>30799164No way the ball got hit
>>30799209>Anykara gives back to the nation with 1.3B. The money will be used on nationa healthcare and improving infrastructure.>Cover only pays Y600 in taxesNo wonder zaibatsu prefers Anykara over Cover since Anykara knows its social responsibility.
>>30799271>Koroi Shiba had to beg her chat for medical expensesThat... is fucking Sad...
>>30799275So much for "All into the company", now it has been debunked
>>30799199>Literally only thing it could possibly be for is to plaster that operating income number in front of investors and say LOOK AT US WE'RE VERY PROFITABLE.Well, they went public after 2021-22 fiscal year. Maybe they need bigger income number to attract investors
>>30798303>but their events this year have been the same as everThey are planning the biggest Nijifes using 7 halls of Makuhari Messe and it will be the biggest Vtuber convention held by a company ever.I know you fags are just shitposting but it's normal to think they hold some cash to prevent the coof fuck it up again.
>>30799338If it were any other year, it might be good, but the government is gonna waste it onto coof funds
>>30799164In the general market of baseball, you mostly have 2 countries which are interested in it, put in some chubas who are larping and playing a game, that's a niche, it just doesn't translate well enough
>>30799364Well they could really fool the dumb Chinese investors with that shit. Actual investors who know what they are doing however look at more than just profit
>>30799352Well to be fair they can just invest that money in a future year, which will give them lower tax for that year, or even losses to carry forward. I don't think paying taxes now vs later is that big a deal.
>>30799405Well I will believe it when it happen
>>30799405I'm gonna curse it again lol
>>30799338Paying bigger tax is not the only option you could help your nation anon.You can hire more people, create more value so more people spend or create events they will force people to go out of their homes/buyfood outside/take a transportation etc. etc.
>>30799287true, seeing pajeets smacking balls with a plank is more interesting than a sim game
>>30799430Anon you'd be surprised how many retards on the stock market look at big number and think that can only mean good things.
>>30799405sounds like another superspreader event waiting to happen.
>>30799459Oh they do be, best to let that cash flow now than to let it stagnate and become a loss
>>30799459Only way to know is wait
>>30799199Honestly for smarter investors this kind of action is literally a landmine when they read a report. This allow for quick cash through short-term stock trading but the future of the company really looks bleak.
>>30799459Isn't shifting expenses over from one year to the next on the year of an IPO in order to increase profits on financial statements unironically fraud?
>>30799523Yeah that's why I said it does work for attracting normal clueless investors
>>30799405How did that fan convetion with 800+ circles work out?
>30799338This nigga here likes to pay taxes Jesus christ on a bike
>>30796751>>30796992Any information on long term/outstanding debt and/or liquid capital?
>>30799133yes sir, plenty of benefits for ALL the staff sir
>>30799601I guess you don't live in EU then? The more we pay, the more benefit we fet dumbass
>>30796751>>30796992So I tried to put the most important items from both companies side by sideAlmost the same sales and cost for sales (Anycolor has better margins)Cover spent almost 20% more in operating expenses due to expansion. Cover has higher extraordinary loss than Anycolor that canceled their fes. That's probably due to Rushia's firingAnycolor earned 120% more after taxes
>>30799338>Corpo paying bigger taxesIn which company would ever want that, that's why large corpos off shore their money and have shell companies you dunce
>>30799649OH NO NO NOHE DOESN'T KNOW
>>30799338Nip PM is a Watamate.
>>30796751wtf why are you leaking this? or is this just made-up?
>>30799582Uhh no technically it's not since it's their money and they're free to do whatever they want with it. It sure looks stupid as fuck though to actual investors questioning where the fuck are those 4M going into.
>>30799672So Niji winCan we end this argument now?Also Rushia actually worth more than NijiFes cancellation wtf? How
>>30799703he probably paid for itwho knows
>>30799672YoY growth is also a big thing to look at, every company harps on and on about that stat for a reason
>>30799649I hate you so much for this statement
>>30799649>I guess you don't live in EU then? The more we pay, the more benefit we fet dumbassYou're a fucking retard, and I pay as category 1
>>30799672>Anycolor has better marginsnot strange, they use the same copy paste merch for everything so they must have a nice bulk supplier helping keep the margins down.
>>30799813Well, as pure profit driven, it worksBut some fans probably don't like it
Another easy 20k for Elira. She is really inclining lately.
>>30799672They only earn more because anycolor didn't spend much of their gross profits
>>30793002>>30793082>>30793328hello /#/, nice OP pic. Is that a vtuber or just some random lewd nun?
Man, it's going to be a long time before Cover can catch up to Anykara at this rate.
>>30799672I bet a big chunk of expenses for Cover is from Holoearth
what's the fucking point of trying to get shorter vods to try to get people to not be scared and to keep up with your shit if you're gonna just fucking stall during sc readings you dumb bitch
>>30799271I also remember the tiger woman from NijiID having had to do a donothon when she broke her leg.
>>30799885If that game sucks and doesn't sell well, Cover is unironically fucked.
>>30799914Not really
>>30799885>holoalt>holoerror>holoearthall of them failed and will fail
>>30799855I dont get it, why doesn't Niji just do Koshien all year long? That way they will have a 200k stream every single day and we can delete this general off the face of the board since there will no longer be a gold tally.
>>30799914Nah, Yagoo already said that they can still run for couple more years even when something catastrophic happen
>>30799892go koyohatewatcher go
How much you want to bet that the Nijifans will use Cover financial statement as fuel for their baits?
More clip numbers.NJ Official(1->1) still in the lead and breaks the 2M mark. Note this is also due to clippers not sourcing channels so views all go to the original stream.Marine(4->2) with the gen collab, Subaru(6->3) with zatsu, Botan(20->4) with countdown zatsu. Everyone else is coasting or on the decline within the top 10.Good performances by Mumei(30->14), Suisei(26->15), Matsuri(36->18), Koyori(28->21), Kiara(59->22), Mori(52->24), Polka(49->27), Reine(82->28), Furen(53->33).Split today is 17.2M(-750k) HL to 12.2M(+300k) NJ.
Are we really surprised that Anycolor is MOGGING Cover for the fiscal year?Cover is basically throwing away their money on their vanity projects without reinvesting anything on their talents, which are supposed to be the backbone of their company
>>30799991They're already shitposting about it
>>30799951sure NijiNigger>I believe you
>>30799964Riku is kind. He wants to give Yagoo a chance.
>>30799991They already did, but that just make them looks retarded
>>30799885I see more welfare spending and advertising
>>30799914You really a think a Fortnite/Minecraft/Craftopia clone with actual Holos in the damn game is gonna fail? The fucking HoloEarth beta preserver shit had 3 fucking million people log in.
>>30800031im correct for 2/3 so far
>>30799991They already do
>>30799991are you looking at the thread right now? even if Cover beats Anycolor in every category, they will still twist the truth somehow.
>>30799997Graph.
>>30800056>Not out yet>Not out yet>Not out yetthe fuck are you talking about
>>30800053Proof next thread about the 3M thing?
>>30800069>even if Cover beats Anycolor in every categorythat will never happen. cover is stagnating.
>>30799976she's literally talking unprompted about kansai-ben and escape rooms instead of getting this done faster, why can't she talk about this when she's playing fucking games instead of just staring silently at uis
SO WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT 2.7B YEN GOING TO THEN IF ITS NOT BEING REINVESTED
>>30800101I don't think Cover will ever beat them in taxes
>>30800056source:
>>30800142shareholders
>>30799364>Maybe they need bigger income number to attract investorsI don't like where this is going...
>>30799991I'm sure that you already drafted a couple of OPs before you even made this post here
>>30800142
>>30800177>NijiponziOh hey, that's kinda rhyme
So all the nijinigger here are idiots?
>>30800142HoloEarth & HoloAlt
>>30799914....Anon, the level of 'suck' it would need to hit as 'a virtual platform where events can take place' would have to be EXTRAORDINARILY bad. We're talking FFXIV 1.0 levels of disaster.
>>30800093holoalt is what, 2 years with nothing to show for it?
>>30795149>buff gameI've never heard of this game before.
>>30799733Niji's surface win.Holo lost due to its high admin cost. It really makes you think why would Cover would spend losts og money on admin.
>>30800258Sales? Did it make money?
>>30799672Anycolor grew 85%Cover grew 135%Cover managed to shrink down the difference in sales from 31% to 3.7%In 2022 they will probably most likely overtake Anycolor in sales
>>30799991Already happening in this thread, with some (probably actual) braindead takes, and some shitposting.
>>30800244they are gender study graduates anon ya think?
>>30800283>unironically asking if a Hololive product made moneyI swear the retards I share a general with.
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>30799997NJ Official(1->1) in first with Koshien, Botan(28->2) and Subaru(4->3) with zatsu, Marine(12->4), Pekora(3->7) and Flare(8->8) with a gen collab, Fubuki(14->5) Rust, Mumei(24->6) Rust/Memory, Kiara(74->9) Korea zatsu, Matsuri(36->10) Rust.Split today is 6.9M(+340k) HL to 3.3M(+570k) NJ.
>>30800315Fuck fuck fuck fuck that useless branch and fuck the fucker who was the root of it all, fucking John Money, that monster.
Y-your thumbnails Pekora, it's bad for my lil' oji-san's heart...https://youtu.be/KqN_PB8lF8o
>>30800289Kek, proof next thread?
>>30799857>click the arrow on the side>saucenaogo crazy anon
>>30800257>We're talking FFXIV 1.0 levels of disaster.How bad is that?
So, Elira is a 20k streamer now. I'm speechless. She has grown so much in the past month.
>>30800332BruhI'm gonna shove my dinogura plush up your ass
>30800101>sales 2020-2021 yoy: 5811250k >sales 2021-2022 yoy: 13663728k>nijiniggers: STAGNATING!!!!!!!!11111one!!!!just admit it, you can't even understand basic numbers right?
>>30800340Graph.
>>30800332proof doko
>>30800367>Horribly designed>Horribly coded>Horribly optimized>An utter trashfire of a game so bad that they literally blew up the world in-game as part of the reboot to ARR
Honestly, if you subtract both gross profits with tax cuts, they are more or less the same but if you account the number of talents anycolor has, Cover wins by a large margin.
and then she decides to overlap pekora and miko with the same game when she could've done so yesterday when only fubuki was on and instead had to do that dreadful minecraft streamjust fucking stupid
>>30800379The Gura dino is probably the funniest rrat ever
>>30800428>ratiocopethe holokek special
>>30799338Employing the unemployed, turning them into productive citizens, and funding foundations yourself are much efficient ways of helping the community than throwing away your cash into a money sink.
>>30800352>Kek, proof next thread?In this same thread you blind fuck>>3079675113,663,728 (apr 2022) / 5,811,250 (apr 2021) = 135% YoY change>>3079699214.164,140 (apr 2022) / 7,636,041 (apr 2021) = 85% YoY change
is graph anon here? can I see salome's graph please?
>>30799405I hoped that was the case anon... but the loss they had for the fes was around 150M yen.I'd get it if they had maybe 500M in reserve for such an eventuality, but 4B?That's just too idealistic.
>>30800449Keep up the good work Koyori anon.
>>30800238>using their net income for rival company projectAnycolor is a good company indeed
>>30800093>>30800258>holofags don't know about their own company's projectskek don't you guys watch streams? even I know it came out and the last time I watched a holo stream was on 2020
>>30800367If you have some timehttps://youtu.be/aWIrju3F6nUhttps://youtu.be/zsCIw_FMRKw
>>30800289>J-just you wait in 10 years NijiSis, Hololive is going to beat your company
A spike in net profit (especially true for newer 'tech' companies) usually means they overshoot they revenue projections by miles and more. Sometimes it's because they happened to win the algo game and their products/services went viral, other times it's plainly because they made a really good and well received product/service that overperforms in the market that year and hasn't had the time to restructure their spending budget.That said, I'll argue a similar case happened here with Anycolor, they probably thought they would make somewhere around 4bn but gets 6bn instead due to overperformance.Although the reverse can also be applied to Cover here, that they overexpected their revenue this year, and ended up with negative np growth. I think that wasnt the case for cover, and that they were just more aggressive with reinvestments (HoloEarth, HoloAlt, etc) this year. also their spike moment was probably last years' and they were likely already expecting a negative np growth for this year anyway.
>>30800503Not out yet retard
>>30800289Here /qa/nigger >>30800478
>>30800352Why next thread?doesnt want to be corrected anon?
>>30800464Gura member stream is the Holobrony version of Rosemi tier 3 stream
>>30799672> non operating income 900% for Coverexcuse me wtf someone explain
>>30800449Pekora will raid Espoir then will raid some base with Koyori later on, most likely. This will boost her more than anything, Pekora is the buffest Holomember at the moment after all.
>>30800512Here /qa/nigger >>30800478
>>30800541Nah, Holoerror is out anon.....https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololiveerror_game2022
>>30800583she can't get boosted if she keeps being a useless fuck and gets left behind to talk on her own while pekora does everything for her
>>30800525Yagoo is too overconf8dent because incels chanted his name at CRX. He shouod have stayed humble like Riku.
>>30800564it's very small, but it's Miscellaneous Income and gains on exchange rates (by taking USD advance payments and holding it while waiting for merch to get made)
>>30800583Not really but she is a walking content machine in this Rust arcShe show up in other Holo stream, do her things and generate ton of clips
>30800468>ratiocopeGaining more profit with less resources. Isn't that how a for-profit company should operate? Retard.
>>30800477Yagoo, the savior not only of broken girls but of great nippon as a whole.
Reminder that NijiEN has more 20k+ streamers than HoloEN.
>>30800541open wide holofag
>>30800624It's shipped out mid November
>>30800664you can't expect chinks to understand profit when all they know is BORROW BORROW BORROW BORROW AND MORE BORROW
>>3080047885 vs 135 yoy what a stagnant
Jesus lord I've never seen more bait in one single thread.
I feel compelled to actually make a post announcing who won and who lost to shut all these schizo up
>Holobronies ratiocopingHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
>>30800778Do it, I'll wait for Holofans to accept defeat
>>30800748Welcome to #, within 20 minutes the baits will be lining the catalog.
>>30800748They can't comprehend the fact that Cover is doing amazing with less members
Why are holocrabs like this?
>>30800697>"It's a failure!">the game is not even shipped until mid novemberYou can grudgepost me after the public reception comes out
>>30800748Welcome to /#/ were even the fisherman gets fished.
Both companies are doing great and it's unironically a closer horserace than daily gold, except it won't be decided for 5-10 years.
haachama had another reflection on stream
>>30799459I don't think that is how it works.
>>30800861the limited physical release is shipped out mid november, the game is out for public you stupid fucking holofag
>>30800778>Being in number and not interested in number
holokek status?
So basically "holding concerts will cause a company to lose more money" rrat is true?
>>30800840You didn't name Riku though?https://youtu.be/N1M6RIfqitg
>>30800861He's correct that you can buy the game now, but you are correct if you also include the merch portion. I can see the game being a failure if it was a stand alone thing, but with the merch included it will be profitable.
>>30800922no
>>30800801>>30800921I never see a good post with selen picture
>>30800922pretty much. the merch > SC cope is just a cope too. holobabies don't know the first thing about business.
>>30799951Ah yes the niji classic> if> would> might> will
>>30800922>the main thing is membership, merchandising, and revenue from live events.Not if you believe Yagoo himself.https://www.4gamer.net/games/628/G062811/20220418043/index_3.html
>>30800922This literally never happened in history
>>30800664NTA but yes, Anycolor earned 14bn with 8bn of expenses this year (42% NPM) while cover did 13bn with 11bn (15% NPM).As a for profit company, Anycolor is almost three times as effective as cover
>>30800921goodhow about you NijiNigger?
>>30800872Less than 4(?) months now until the lock out period ends for Anycolor investors. That's the next big thing in the companies story.
How long does Cover have left before they will be forced to close their doors, btw?
>>30800922You are a literal retard if you believed that rrat
>>30801042Probably a week or so
>>30800655ohhh right I forgot the Yen got weaker over the year.screwed over Steam Deck sales in Japan too kek, the price increased by about 10k yen by the time sales opened to Asia.
>>30800391
>>30801000I wonder how holobronies will cope about this
>>30801042Two weeks
>>30800921Doing great as my company is investing it its future. How about you nijikek?
>>30801024Kind of interested to see how that will goThey could stay or cash out
is botan's 3D also a sololive?
>>30800922God fucking damnit. Imagine if this place had IQ test questions for captchas
>>30800983uimama_fanreflectsstreamer.jpg
>>30801042When Riku buys Cover, it's going to be funny. Imagine Pekora forced into a collab with Vox
>>30801042Literally tomorrow.
>>30801078I think so
>>30800244
>>30801078>Pekora shilled itNo way lmao, at the very least PEBOT is confirmed, they show up in each other lives already
Nijibronies making the thread go to shit even though they can't use their damn brain for a second. I'll come back during EU hours to shitpost about ENsharts a bit ( ˘ω˘)スヤァ
>>30801042It will happen tomorrow, don't you worry sister, we will win this time!
>>30801042When Selen get a 3D and New outfit
>>30800244Judging by how they can't even interpret some dumbed down financials, yes, they are crayon sniffing idiots
>>30801093>Imagine Pekora forced into a collab with VoxSounds like a good way for Riku to get the authorities on his ass.
>>30801156tell her to lose weight firstthat fat fucking piece of pork
>2021 - 2022 FY Annual Net Profit Tally1. Anycolor 2.7bn2. Cover 0.9bn>Gold1x Anycolor>Silver1x Cover
>>30801156Kek, with the money Anykara earns, they can provide all talents with 2 new sets of outfits
>>30801059>even nijisanji official cant make meme
>>30801042Two more weeks, I belib.
>>30801024isn't it next month?they went public back in Q1 iirc and lockout is 6 months
>>30800801keep working hard Selenposterwe must win the all out war
>>30801142>>30801173No surprise holobronies ignored this >>30801000
>>30801217pretty sure IPO was around the time Salami released, so that's only about 3 months.
>>30799524Wait, the high school baseball players in Japan are dominated by pajeets?
>>30801195But.... but... THEYYYYY DIDNT!!!Risu cash it out Niggerstheres no Selen 3D and new outfit for you LMAO!!
>>30801232>actual retard
>>30801255Just like how Japanese sumo are dominated by Mongolians I fucking love sumo
>>30801195Why would they do that though? That wont make Riku's boat any bigger!?
>>30801232Tell me you are just pretending
>>30801296To be fair, Mongolians are the most powerful race in Asia.
>>30801232> crying after people didn't respond to his retardation
>>30801253no IPO was way earlier than thatat least a month+ before salami dropped
>>30800699Well, that's what I fucking get for LINKING THE SPECIAL PHYSICAL EDITION.The base game is already ready to download and play.
>>30801330April was date of listing approval.June was date of actual listing.
>>30801323No we Viet whooped their ass (once)
my doctor said i must learn positivity from my nijifriend, for believing their corpo oshi is still the best in the world
>>30801071Why would they stay? The early investors are already up by a lot
>>30801000Anon, you just failed business school, NPM isn't even hard to calculate but you have managed to use the wrong formula and proven yourself unable to read.
So is it just 2 guys?
>>30801387>nijifriendthat doesnt exist anononly NijiNiggers in here