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Don't bite the baits
Has there ever been a bigger flop in the Vtubing field?
Noire reclined to sub 3k already. How do we save Tempus?
>>30669677People have also started to allude to the actual shitstirrers behind the Rushia situation
Here have some pagpag, now leave
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>207,540: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>73,157: Lamy (Hololive)>57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>43,430: Pekora (Hololive)>34,582: Gaku (Nijisanji)>28,898: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>27,283: Fubuki (Hololive)>23,030: Gura (Hololive)>21,218: Elira (Nijisanji)>20,891: Subaru (Hololive)>18,873: Fubuki (Hololive)>16,498: Miko (Hololive)>16,154: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,810: Kobo (Hololive)>15,135: Koyori (Hololive)>15,057: Amelia (Hololive)>14,516: Flare (Hololive)>13,956: Belmond (Nijisanji)>13,823: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>13,760: Koyori (Hololive)>13,293: Roboco (Hololive)>12,771: Toko (Nijisanji)>11,637: Koyori (Hololive)>11,447: Nene (Hololive)>11,122: Hal (Neo Porte)>10,630: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,523: Ponpoko (Indie)
>>30669802>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league>PER COMPANY6x: Nijisanji6x: Hololive>PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji1x: Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Towa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY139x: Hololive75x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER26x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata, Nijisanji4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Fuwa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
That Ike SC screenshot makes me wonder, what are the usual SC numbers for EN?
remember to keep supplying our visiting sisters with the attention they desire
>>30669767>Has there ever been a bigger flop in the Vtubing field?kek, yes? It's not even a contest, even Ranunculus and Voltaction had a better debut buff
>>30669802300k Koshien final let's gooooooooooooooooooBut who won on block A today?
>>30669658>I fucking hate this ren piece of shitYou're preaching to the choir anonThat aside, I doubt the new Gamer wave from NijiEN would be different from Iluna, the 2 weeks application window is too short and their scouts are worth shitThis is just seems like a poor answer to Tempus's question
>>30669802>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league>PER COMPANY7x: Nijisanji5x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Pekora1x: Flare, Fuwa, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Towa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY138x: Hololive76x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER25x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata, Nijisanji4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>30669677>>30668801I would like to point out that r/Hololive was way more pro-unity before any of the "All out war" shit happenAnd even after that, there's at least no official ban from T-chan regarding beggarsHow the fuck did they fucked that up is beyond me
>>30669814Fix the August golds. Fuwa won on the 4th, it should be 7-5
>>30669775We don't. HoloEN is finished. The meme is over. Leave the English market to the professionals from now on.
>>30669611I'm fine with it as long as it's 5 white girls and not Westernized Asians. All the top ENs are white. The top Tempus is the only white. Etc.
>>30669549Hololive always try to find talents that have a potential to cater to a certain niche, unlike Riku's accelerate where you just throw multiple livers and hope someone sticks.Tempus is barely able to penetrate the NA and EU markets but Iluna is able to penetrate none. Worst of all, Iluna"s tourists went to their senpais instead.This is the mindshare you are talking about. Riku is benefitting and cashing in while their livers are struggling.
>>30669828Aside from Luxiem, bad. The other livers needs an event or long/more streams to cash in SCs.
>>30669849Not according to vstats and vrabi tho
>>30669849seethe schizo
>>30669886I meant SC readings, my bad
>>30669845>How the fuck did they fucked that up is beyond meIt's really shocking! Here is the thing>if your whole strategy depends on nobody shouting "THE KING IS FUCKING NAKED!" it has no chance to succeedand NIjibeggars lost before they even started playing
>>30669901>>30669895>>30669840Nah, it's all good. Seems like at least one person in this thread has the decency to be honest.
Anycolor has paid shills to shit on Council on cooldown plus Fulgur who's doing it for free
>>30669814Good tally
>>30669845>there's at least no official ban from T-chan regarding beggarsBecause that shit is something no sane community manager will ever make public.
>>30669831incorrect
>>30669840Kys
>>30669929>>30669840clearly not you schizo
>>30669908Ike closes his SC Readings most of the time. He and Shu doesn't actively get SCs but when they do, they stream something buff at JP primetime.
So Enna is a 5k streamer now. I guess this is technically a collab since it's with Aia, but realistically how many viewers did she even bring to the collab?
>>30669929>honestNijinnigers are full of hypocrites like you
>>30669207Lamy's staple is zatsudan, that doesn't really translate well to EOPs.
>>30669895vrabi has it as a fuwa win
>>30669974Not a debut buff that's literally "everyone joining to boost him in minecraft" buff
>>30669956An argument can be made that it's already soft banned by them actually enforcing the rules about not mentioning other streamers unprompted
>>30669908>I meant SC readings, my badI'll answer your question with a single pic and single sentence>Noir is beating Ike on SC reading
>>30670039Just you wait until N Filter ver.2.5
>>30669974got mogged by an indog
>>30670039this fuwa thing probably won't mean anything after monday when niji starts getting its shit thoroughly pushed in every single day.
>>30669832Bully panda and Lize.
>>30669974Anon, Ren is getting outranked this month in his median of peaks not only by Magni and Vesper (which is expected) but by fucking Axel as well.
>>30669840>4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenicsKon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun!
>>30670039It is clearly a bug. Fuwa's calisthenics graphs do not look like that.
>>30669929The pagpag wasn't enough?! Okay, here's some Vox, I hope it satisfies your cravings
>>30670104Can't wait to grudgepost you when Niji wins the first month since 2020
anyway boys, it's time
>>30669868HoloEN3 will have a black girl with extremely noticeable AAV and this place will meltdown
>>30670039another normal fuwa graph
>>30669802>>30669840
>>30669838>2 weeks windowAre they trying to fill in some failed slot for wave7?
>>30670134Holy recline. HoloEN really is dead
Why do these discordniggers argue that HoloEN isn't bringing any new viewers when they're the ones who brought Vtubing to mainstream attention in the first place?
>Floorjisanji fan posts highest post debut stream that was essential a leech festival>18,000 IS REN'S FLOOR AND AVERAGEYou'd think a fandom so intimately acquainted with the floor would know what it means in /#/
>>30669611It would flop because being multilingual is a debuff on multiple levels. See: IRys, Zeta, Kiara, Axel, Bae, Lui. All the runts of their gens.
>>30670044That's the thing. It's tacit, but unless they're THAT retarded, they won't ever be vocal about it. Just go "rules say so *shrug*".
>"This will be the end of Hololive", says increasingly nervous man for the seventh time this year
>>30670134Luxiem sponsor streams are never on their channels and is always a collab with a female Niji on their channel plus their worst gaming streams are on twitch and bilibili. Luxiems's numbers are so artificial its so shameless to see them up there.
>>30670288Holy recline, NijiEN is dead
>>30670287Uh, late-chamaEither they scrapped the supposed Wave 7/Iluna counterpart, or they gonna debut 2 more wave in 5 months
>>30670288you mean nijien? yes they reclined hard, iluna is currently kissing the floor
Summary of last thread.
>>30670039The day before the convoluted Z
>>30669767literally iluna and the rest of nijis outside of luxiem
Becoming!
>>30670134Bro how the fuck are there nijiEN below Reine when she self sabotages harder than Ame
Mito is sexy stop posting her
>>30669767iluna ofc, magged hard by fucking stars and IDs
holobronies in shambles
>>30670530your wish has been granted. no more mito.
>>30669831this, juts graduate the whole iluna already, they are embarassing
Nice
>>30670530>>30670567request denied
>>30670408>>30670448In case you didn't notice, NijiEN has two 10k+ streamers and is only inclining from here. HoloEN has two 10k+ streamers, but they aren't pulling in a new audience, as evidenced by sub counts
>>30670631COME ON, GO BEYOND ANON
>>30670642No they don't.Peaks mean fuckall now with Z's all over the place
>>30670134>Scarle and Aia already at the bottom of NijiEN even with debut buffIncredibly grim if there's still any buff left because it means there's still space to fall.Also wtf happened to Rosemi?
>>30670642>NijiEN has two 10k+ streamers and is only inclining from hereliterally mogged by kobo and kaela
>>30669845Calling T-chan/mods as "having trouble accepting reality" when Salome discussion under Kobo's 1M thread was deleted may have had something to do with it.
https://twitter.com/BUZZRHYTHM_NTV/status/1558146460516257792Suisei is going to appear on TV again
>>30670642subs? even vox lost his race to ID lmao
>>30670656can't be fucked with resetting the router today sorry
>>30670642>ike singing stream 50k >the very next after-party of said singing stream 2k uh oh riko we should buy more bots
This is why you don't get Indians and Chinese people hiring talents for an English speaking branch. Shit's embarrassing NijiEN is literal garbage
>>30670779And yet he's still pulling 3k+ a day while Council and Myth are dragging their feet with 1k a day. Sub counts are definitely a meme, but sub growth shows interest and growth. Everyone in HoloEN only gets 1-2k a day, while NijiEN has livers getting 3-5k. If that's not cause for concern, I don't know what is
>>30670642Zs are not counted, we only count organic views, not bots
Btw since no one has mentioned him for a while, Nowa is now at 2k and still going. Enna didn't break 5k and is now at a steady 4.3k. Irys 8.3k.Nina has 1.4k with power wash which I'm pretty sure if bad even for her. Not sure why it's so low
This kills the nijifriend
>>30670642>only inclining from here
>>30670728That makes a lot of sense actually
>>30670860pulling number out of your ass huh?
>>30670642>NijiEN has two 10k+ streamers and is only inclining from here.Here sister, satisfied yet? Now leave
>>30670942>>30670875>>30670833>>30670779>>30670721You guys sound just like the Nijisanji oldfags /here/ before Hololive mogged them. History really does repeat itself, only the shoe's on the opposite foot this time
>>30670642>NijiEN has two 10k+ streamersRoru. Rumao. There is only one EN 10k+ streamer (that is, a streamer that gets 10k+ every month) and that's Gura.
>>30671015Yeah, they are going to be mogged by VSPO
>>30670410So its either a new wave 7 member or Wave 8, correct?
>>30670974??Where's Ina?
>>30671075VSPO is niji-adjacent, so that's fine.
Risottobros... why hasn't she replied yet? Maybe she lost the password for her account?https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1557743271660916739
Heh
>>30670335>>30670385>>30670286based taste
>>30670860all nijifuckers do is lie lie and lie and yet they still wonder why everyone hates them>nijien girls could only get 20k with Z and leeching to koshien, pathetic
Being chairless really broke their minds.Mindshare? More like mindbroke!But honestly, it is true that NijiEN is increasing their reach because they actually fucking stream, unlike the lazy asses of HoloEN. Even fucking Kaela is mogging them both.But still, Iluna is a total flop. They did not create a new frontier but they did solidify the hold of their senpais. Meanwhile, Tempus may bring small numbers but they are able to create their own small bubble and even create a new frontier led by Nowa.
>>30671108Is that why notBora defected from Niji?
Imagine losing to an old man just reading names
>>30671078Wave 7 replacement after one of them went awol after seeing iluna's numbers and performance thats why the period is only 2 weeks.
>>30671112she's intimidated
>>30670860Do you have a site showing sub growth for Nijis like https://holo.poi.cat/I don't see a way to easily see sub growth for Nijis all on one page.
>>30671015no, vspo will overtook nijisanji as the 2nd best vtuber agency in the world
>>30671112
>>30671131artists really like mito feet and i do too
>Irys starts gambling>begins inchingI know this happens with everyone but I'm still disappointed every time
>>30671183believable rrat
>>30671255is that you?
>>30671099she doesn't stream, not counted yet
>>30671193I use Playboard. As an example of what I mentioned, just compare these numbers:https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCR6qhsLpn62WVxCBK1dkLow/subscribershttps://playboard.co/en/channel/UC3n5uGu18FoCy23ggWWp8tA/subscribersEnna is getting at least 2k subscribers a day on average. Mumei is pulling less than 1k. NijiEN clearly has more momentum than Hololive
>>30671255this actually sounds like one of the resident schizos
>>30670942You know, I don't think Zs, Salome or Koshien are rely being botted. HOWEVER, I am pretty sure Vox's subcount is being botted, or if not botted being artificially boosted by his zhang fanbase. >But Anon, where is your evidence?1. He's been gaining 4k a day steadily for a while now, and has been gaining roughly that same amount for ages No big increases or decreases, just, around 4k a day2. When he did that jump king sub endurance challenge, his sub gain rate didn't increase. At all. That shighku suspicious, and he quickly fucked off once he realized he wasn't gaining subs any faster3. Zhangs. Enough said. Does this ultimately do anything? Not rely, but it does mean that he's going to accumulate ACTUAL deadsubs faster than anyone else in Luxiem.
>>30671278No, i decided to share it since he sounds completely unhinged and direct from /here/
Some genuine questionWhy are management trying to get Ame on Twitch? What the fuck are they seeking there for EN?
>>30670939In case you're new here, that was not the only stealth shilling incident, it was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>30671326this, an actual subsbotting
>>30671078Honestly that sounds highly plausible, but man that's also rather....grim.
>>30671357?Ame is not the only holomen with twitch account
>>30671357EN management is throwing darts at anything it can in the hopes it'll stick. They're getting desperate
>>30671326Shit like this is why I don't trust any niji numbers. Every single one is suspicious.
>>30671368Not really new, but i didn't know that the shills were going after the mods directly for not allowing their shit to continue
>>30671162Does he not tangent? Or is he pulling an Ina?
>>30671015Unlike 2019 nijiniggers, we're not shitting on any of the niji livers, hell there's people here that even like some of them.Riku's doing a fine job collapsing his own company, we're just enjoying the ride.
I can't wait for NijiEN Rust on the Vshojo server. The numbers will be so beautiful.
So Noel as an 2d outfit reveal stream on the 19th and this are the numbers she got for her last two 2D outfit reveal streams https://holo.poi.cat/stream/WeG18OZ48Oo140,116https://holo.poi.cat/stream/sU035Ii_Scw101,868what are numbers expectations
>>30671316It's a /vt/ poster, but not one of ours.
>>30671400I know but why is Ame specifically are being advised to stream on it? There’s nothing for them thereWhat even is EN manager strategy nowadays? They are slow on releasing new gen, missed all the golden opportunity and do nothing to try making the branch more active
>>30671368>>30671422It's honestly stupid it didn't happen sooner. Almost every vtuber has a "no mentioning other vtubers in chat" rule.
>>30671099She's barely streamed for the month since she's still in progress of moving. She made a members post to update yesterday. It's somewhere still near where she lives before since her ma is within close visiting distance
>>30671015ALL OUT WAR
>>30670642>and is only inclining from hereNot really? >pic related for their 30 days median of peak CCVThe branch as a whole is stagnating hard with the boys in a free fall since the debut of Noctyx, and the girls observing a modest incline from 2k to 3k.With the debut of iLuna both the boys and the girls medians will suffer, like when Noctyx debuted.I predict there will be winners (Selen, Pomu and Enna on the girls side, Vox and Mysta on the boys side) but everybody else will end up taking a hit.
>>30671357Everyone has twitch accounts nowadays, and it's up to them how to use it, but it might be a ploy to grab attention for a future KR branch but i don't believe that they are thinking that far ahead
>>30671439he does tangent but he keeps things restrained for the most part.
>>30671368The one that got even regular posters pissed was the one in Kobo's celebration thread. Really shot themselves in the foot there.
>>30671357Ame is a pushover.
>>30671518Holy shit, they doubled their average ccv in eight months. If that's not an incline I don't know what is
>>30671015Nijisanji is digging its own grave, we're just the observers
The three wings of the apocolypse.Each has wingsEach is developing into 5k streamers
>>30671583Black hair jk is so fucking hot
>>30671255Fuck, stop breaking containment you stupid /Vt/ SCHIZO, keep that garbage here at least.
>>30671469Account for natural recline, around 70-80k at most, assuming no big overlapBut at the same time Noel always have abnormally big outfit number compare to her other number for obvious reasons so it might peak higher than my prediction
>>30671503>Ame specifically are being advised to stream on itProof?twitch is pretty handy when you're doing watchalong, or if you don't want to clutter your youtube page with multiple valo streams a la RBC/La+/Chammer
>>30671502This was the exact rate at which it would have happened. They were trying to do a boiling frog on the subreddit, except this thread caught on.
>>30671634They're already 5k streamers anon
>>30670833>is is why you don't get Indians and Chinese people hiring talents for an English speaking branch.or social media addicted zoomers
>>30671634And Maria too
>>30671326(me)Holy fucking spelling errors. Fucking phoneposting, I swear. Sometimes I hate it.
>>30671695>or social media addictsfixed
>>30671695Hell I just used twitter because of the Holo girls, and now I have a 2nd account just for following naked CN girls
Maybe it’s better to let Vox be the face of NijiENMr. Zotto have no common sense at all
>>30671657Ame's latest twitch vod (which is on youtube now).The funny thing? Ame basically justifies it by saying that it's to grow a new audience and suddenly she cares about money because it's a new avenue of revenue.
I'd be a lot more tolerant of the nijibuddies if they didn't run a 24/7 astroturfing campaign on this thread.
>>30671469Assuming no overlap and she teases it properly, 90-100k. Diminishing returns on additional outfits beyond the first.
>>30669767...
>>30671852Versen...You didn't deserve Sony...
>>30671821>if they didn't run a 24/7 astroturfing campaign on this thread>this threadIf it were only that
>>30671469If she gets less than 100k, Holo recline is real.
>>30671835why can't nijisanji get outfit numbers like that?
>>30671835Well but she did kind of surprise us with the first 2 outfit number right? It reach higher than expected
>>30671811You want the face of NijiEN to be someone posting these kind of shit?
>>30671885when was the last 100k niji outfit reveal, btw?
>>30671288Yeah, well the reason I asked for a single page to compare is so I don't have to go to 30 different pages to see the trends. Enna is on the rise right now but I don't know where that places her in NijiEN so hard for me to say if it's a her thing or a NijiEN thing in general. Judging from what I've seen NijiJP sub growth is pretty bad outside of Salome so it seems to be a specific trend with NijiEN.I actually agree on the sub growth thing for Hololive but it's not really HoloEN specific, as you can see from the site I linked Mumei's sub growth actually puts her in the upper half of Hololive if you include the JPs. So my conclusion is different from yours: it's not that Hololive is reclining, but more like NiniEN is accelerating at pace faster than most of Holo and the rest of Niji. Which actually fits with the chart Anycolor showed in their IPO pointing out that most of their growth was from the EN branch.Whether this is sustainable or translates into sifnificantly more viewers we'll have to see. Would also be interested to see where the bulk of these subs come from.
>>30671903I can write it off as sex jokes. I can’t really joke about Mr. Zotto mentioning literally everyone for no reason and make them weirded out
>>30671813Let's be real here. If you're an english speaking streamer and you're active in gaming communities, you want to stream on twitch. It doesn't matter if the. audience wouldn't carry over or whatever, twitch just IS western streaming culture.
Is IRyS bleeding like usual
>>30671503>I know but why is Ame specifically are being advised to stream on it?They probably suggested all holos to try twitch especially for FPS games and that's about it. Ame isn't the only one, Laplus, Roboco and a few others play Valorant on twitch.
>>30671813Perhaps management (which now has Jenma as head of talent) is moving much faster on approving projects, so Ame is now much more willing to spend and thus also needs more dosh to go along with it.
>>30671813Pretty reasonable I guessAlso, I think Ame's the only HoloEN to stream on twitch so far, they need to keep their twitch mindshare engaged somehow
Right but Rust number today is weaker overall, specifically on the topThe recline finally started kicking in, I give Rust another week before everyone start dropping it like ER
>>30671982>western streaming culture
>>30671949It's probably China, but does it really matter? The point is Niji is accelerating faster than Hololive. EN3 will debut to a saturated market to an audience that's tired of idols, as evidenced by the anemic sub growth
>>30671890Why do you have to hurt me so? >>30671900Well, it'd be a surprise I'd she got over 100k again yea, so I'll aim my expectations lower and be susprised I'd she breaks those expectations.
>>30672057how's iluna doing, btw? they have an audience of 1b+ people in china, so they should be doing well, right?
>>30671977Yeah, I don't think sponsors would be eager to have their brands represented by this
>>30672057>an audience that's tired of idolsBecause of nijisanji?
>>30672115Kyo and Ren got 4k and 6k respectively in a split POV collab. Let's see how Magni and Regis do tonight.
>>30671794Spoonfeed me on the naked CN girls anon.
>>30672097I kind of want to believe in Sankisei magicSo far 3/4 of them already break some kind of personal record this year
>>30672048If you're entire platform, which is the top streamers in the industry, only competes in the english market because of a handful of streamers and the shared audience that they all have with each other then yeah it's a culture
>>30671596>doubled their average ccv in eight monthsAnon, that's just ratiocope.>Here is the same chart, with HoloID added to it.The boys in NijiEN truly brough a MASSIVE incline to the branch but the girls didn't as much "Incline" as "stopped dragging the branch down too hard".Some niji supporters like to talk about Nijisanji as a >ruthless environment where the dead weight gets cut or not invested intobut that's far from true.That's clearly not true. If it was even remotely true Riku would have not only NEVER debuted another girl in the branch again but would seriously consider putting the NijiEN girls into the "banishment room", like they did with ID and KR.
>>30671949I do believe by pushing more debut is a sufficient way to gain sub growth (outside of Vox sus as fuck growth), you need tourist for that after all.
>>30671977There are good sex jokes and there's that, and this >>30670999, it's not even funnyWhat I want to convey is that neither of them are good choices, I don't watch Mysta but he seems to be a better compared to the two
>>30671890Fuck you, stop using honhima for your shitpost
>>30672173>ren got 6kkys
>>30672166Unironically yes. Hololive may have propelled vtubing into the stratosphere in EN, but Nijisanji and even Vshojo are the future of EN vtubing. Twitch culture is ingrained in EN streaming, that's the kind of content that draws in viewers. You may not like it, but things like react videos and collabs are the most popular in EN, and corpos like Niji and Vshojo excel in both departments
>>30672223it's not a shitpost if it's true.
>>30672212Vox is the only offender in that aspect, even Luca rarely tweets something this cringe beside his usual shitty twitch lingo
>>30672057There will always be an audience for anime girls doing anime things which has always been what Hololive is actually about“There’s everything for everyone in Niji”, this statement is wrong since there’s always people who is bored of Niji crude joke culture
>>30672246My mistake, he got 6.9k. Thanks for informing me!So 6.9k and 4.2k = 11k totalDoubt Holostars even gets half of that
>>30672203By the way, this is only the first time HoloID catches up with NijiEN since the Luxiem boys debuted.
So we're just lying now
>>30583628I wouldn't call them "friends".
10 hololive EN'seach stream an average of 10 hours a week= 100 hours of content a week26 NijiEN'seach stream an average of 26 hours a week= 676 hours of content a week
So here's some interesting unique chatting stats.Vesper's 2 hour super chat reading stream had 1,660 unique chatters with a peak CCV that didn't even hit 3k. This averages to ~830 unique chatters per hour.NijiEN's 5.3 hour watchalong of Koshien had 4,632 unique chatters with a peak CCV of around 18,000. This averages to 870 unique chatters per hour.That is to say that despite having less than 1/6th the CCV peak and it being a fucking super-chat reading stream, Vesper's stream was only very slightly behind the EN watchalong of Nijisanji's largest event which is just fucking hilarious.
>>30672280If that's what the audience wants then VShojo and NijiEN must be doing a pretty atrocious job to be getting consistently worse numbers than HoloEN doing things people don't want
>>30672246Why do Nijis never regain their peak from before the Z? So mysterious.
>>30672360>676 hours of bland sex jokesgrim
>>306721894 out of 5, arguably.
>>30672184You can check out @slutbroadcast and just follow the girls that get posted there and you'll get recommended with a lot after, well at least that's what I did
>>30672246>with a whopping Z
>>30672360Yet people would rather watch Hololive
What happened now? Why is the schizo monkey seething?
>>30672212I honestly don't know how to explain the sex joke difference between HoloEN, NijiEN and Vshojo to my ESL friends. I know they are different and cater to different tastes.
>>30672345Who do you we are dealing with?
>>30672369We've been over this with Salami Nips are autistic bunch and they don't really engage in chat that much compared to western/SEA
>>30671469>140,116This one was right after Miko's 2020 3D live return celebration/birthday thing. I explicitly remember Miko herself redirecting her viewers to Noel. Just to give context as to why the number is so high.
>>30672280no you fucking retard. this actually why its failing. if I wanna watch react garbage i'd go to the frontpage of twitch and randomly click one of the blokes there and its gonna be infinitely better. Nijisanji never brings anything new that can be outdone by fleshtubers. NijiEN is a massive failure
https://youtube.com/channel/UCzMv2RU0h_VTX1DzMaQepcAFound this 8 month old clip channel. Their number are surprisingly good for a channel that started so late
>>30672359>faggot responds to a day old post to vague post about some bullshit You SERIOUSLY need to kill yourself
>>30672333>Zs are part of our mindchairkek
Wamy!
>>30672463nijiEN chats are full of SEA people
>>30672463They're talking about two EN streams you retard
>>30670642>NijiEN has two 10k+ streamersI'm assuming you mean Mysta and Vox? They both reclined below 10k last month.
>>30672463Bullshit. HoloJP does not have a problem of this magnitude. More like your bots are too blatant.
>>30672507wtf why would you do this?
>>30672511Exchange nips with chinks then faggot, it doesn't differ that much
>>30672507>filenameBut thanks nonetheless
>>30672360What is even your point with these random estimated stats?
>>30672057>EN3 will debut to a saturated market to an audience that's tired of idols, as evidenced by the anemic sub growthHoloEN are nothing like idols though, what does this even mean>>30672280>You may not like it, but things like react videos and collabs are the most popular in EN, and corpos like Niji and Vshojo excel in both departmentsThis has to be bait because Nijis don't even do react content. In any case there are plenty of people who hate react content and like old school let's players or Minecraft roleplayers or just normal gamers, you can find tons of them on twitch and YouTube.
>>30672280>t. actual retard
How do we save Council?
>>30672439At least for me with a lot of Holos' sex jokes they at least tend to be more subdued, subtle, and are double entendre to mask it, NijiEN same with Vshojo are just straight to your face, loud, and obnoxious
>>30672578Niji excels in collabs. Vshojo excels at react content. Not sure how I'm wrong thereLook at Enna's stream. She's about to hit 6k because she's collabing with 5 other members. It's like when Gura's ccv jumped 2k yesterday when she met Pekora. The only difference is that Niji livers actually enjoy these collabs and use it to prop each other up, while Holo chuubas are afraid of doing "bad collabs" and hurting their numbers, so they never develop an organic collab culture like Nijisanji
>>30672280
>>30672486people grudgepost here all the time.
>>30672716>She's about to hit 6k because she's collabing with 5 other members.grim
>>30669849Neck yourself, shitposter.
>>30672439>HoloEnTends to be stealth, with a level of plausible deniability at the level of old animaniacs cartoons. Gura is especially good with this.>VshojoBlatant with no subtlety. 'Cum in my eye' etc. >nijiEnUsed to sort of sit inbetween, but has moved more and more towards blatant shit with Luxiem's introduction and Iluna just continues the trend.
>>30672691Remove all their clothes
>>30672783>Tempiss copeLmao. Noir couldn’t even hit 3k today. Numbers are numbers faggot
>>30672280FUCK YEAH! YOU TELL EM! I AM THE FUTURE OF CHOOBING MOTHER FUCKERS!
>>30672716>Niji livers actually enjoy these collabs and use it to prop each other up>Vox and Ren collabYuo, Vox is propping up his funneling from iluna debut buff and ren is propping himself up by leeching off Vox. Sadly for him, his POV is shut down
>>30672783How? Holo has the same opportunities to collab, yet they choose not to. It sounds more like Niji livers are taking advantage of the family dynamic while Holo chuubas ignore anything that isn't their own community
>>30672836it's a fucking superchat reading stream
>>30672716You don't think there is an audience that isn't into nijien constantly crashing into each others streams, but is there for the chuubas solo content instead?
>>30672439Holo jokes are subtle, and will flow over the heads of kids but will make the adults laugh.Win win for both audiences.NijiEN is not kid friendly, OR mature adult friendly (since the humor doesn't go beyond SEX, GENDER, FLUIDS HAHAHA) so their audience is unironic teenagers, which explains all the behaviors from their fanbase.Including the attention seeking from this very thread. Fatherless behavior, that.
>>30672507Anon....
>>30672774Grudgeposts are about important shit not random one off comments and they happened to saw. That no one gave a fuck about. Vague posting is faggot behavior by default, then you vague post about some day old completely meh reaction comment? You should kill yourself for even defending this behavior.
>>30672836He didn't even mention tempus? Are they living rent free in your head anon?
>>30672854So? Shit numbers are shit numbers.
>>30672884see>>30670075
>>30672836>I do not actually watch streams and is just shitflinging here
>>30672840The actual fuck happened with her fingers?
>>306728843k is literally more than what iLuna gets on average, especially more than shitters like Aia who cant even crack a thousand usually.
>>30672507Itadakimasu
>30672884Anyone who can't recognize this bait and start posting Ike number should just neck themselves
>>30672369try it with magni or Axel, Vesper's kind of an outlier because his core content is zatsudan which is very chat heavy.
>>30672935she drank too much ET juice
okay, taking a smoke break then moving onto the rest of the winning team>toko>rion>sango>shizurinthis could take a while huh
>>30672845That’s their drawI watch Hololive because they keep their interaction with the “outside” to a minimumI already watch enough Twitch kind of content or different corpo collab with each other
>>30672967You don't have a pass?
It'd honestly be easier if we just accepted that Nijisanji will accelerate faster than Hololive because they're a bigger company and can afford to debut 5-6 waves a year. It's all so tiresome listening to this argument back and forth. Hololive has higher average ccv, Nijisanji has higher overall viewers
>>30672716>Niji livers actually enjoy these collabsdoes the audience enjoy it though?
>>30672884
>>30673019Some of them must, otherwise her numbers wouldn't be as high a they are.
>>30672967>shizurinWhat happened to her? Her numbers are in the toilet now. Note that there's a fucking outfit reveal in this image.
>>30673019Yes, because contrary to popular belief of no "nijibox", their fans do watch multiple livers.
If you think Vtubing in the western market has saturated or reached its limit, NijiEN is partly to be blamed. This strategy of throwing new waves to fill every niche is so bad because any potential new viewer looks at those talents and is like "no I am good, I would rather watch anything else". Giving the EN vtubing a bad rep.
>>30673053good for them, and I hope NijiEN keeps these mental cases away from Holos.
>>30673073>no "nijibox"If there is one, it's tiny. I have yet to see a significant funnel from ANY nijisanji stream.
>>30673019The fujos do camp out some streams in hope of their oshi joining, but anyone who are there to spend time with their own oshi might feel a bit trampled on, just look at the time one some of them actually invaded a member stream
Fun fact. HoloEN has never had a stream that peaked at 3 view territory
>>30672280>Nijisanji and even Vshojo are the future of EN vtubingNah, all EN vtubing is reclining, including VShojo. Only Luxiem has seen actual growth, but that's because of the Chinese market.The future of vtubing as a whole is still HoloJP, the only branch with a healthy growth and a sustainable model. The future of HoloEN and pretty much all EN vtubing is largely reliant on HoloJP's popularity and traction.
Isn’t it piss easy to get into Niji? They hire constantly
>>30673053Her Numbers are pretty much unchanged from when she played solo. She had 4.9k Solo and now 5.4k with four extra people there
>>30672716>It's like when Gura's ccv jumped 2k yesterday when she met Pekora.Yeah, and that's not real growth, just a bump in the numbers that will be quickly forgotten. 11 HoloEN girls hosting a collab on Sana's channel and getting 40k doesn't suddenly make Sana a 40k liver.>Bad collabsWhere did this come from? Collabs are always a buff to numbers, where did you get the idea Holo girls are avoiding them for number reasons? Most of them are just antisocial, especially the Myth girls.
>>30673067Autism. If you're familiar with Choco doing her APEX or ARK autism some time ago then it's pretty much the same thing here, just with FFXIV.
>>30672578>HoloEN are nothing like idols though, what does this even meanIt say in this tweet that they are idols. I used to be an fan of holo en but the reason for nijisanji incline people are tired of hololive en strict culture that why nijisanji en is inclining. Nijisanji en has an vast variety of characters from an spicy lantino to fujo baiting vox. Nijisanji en has varity and that the spice of life. Why hololive en is at it low point for half it's members mori can't hit 10k anymore. You have debuff ame. Kronii can't hit 15k for minecraft holo en is dead in the water. You seen on holo en stream you seen them all.While nijisanji en you have accepting community for all sorts of people. You have Selen roasting steam profile pictures with jokes that won't fly in hololive. You have finana putting out asmr that mogs fauna. You have ike an great singer and wonderful gamer. You have Scarle as spicy lantino who provides content for males and female. While holo en is just the boku no hero academia of vtubers. While Nijisanji en is more like bakemonogatari an culture series.
>>30673122 (me)I completely fucked that up, but hopefully my point comes across
>>30673170fuck off
>>30673170k
HOLY SHIT! THIS WAS NOT A PREMIERE!Was this a shill stream of some sort?
>>30673075Man the power NijiEN has in the eyes of holofags is pretty hilarious. They are responsible for every single bad thing happening in the vtubing world
>>30673115The box is basically Vox and his cum slurping friends
The bait isn't even good. Why are you replying?
>>30672958I'll do it with another watchalong. The .6 hour watchalong stream for Top of the World on Axel's channel had 2,355 unique chatters with a peak CCV of about 5.6k. This averages to 3,860 unique chatters per hour. This is more than 4 times the NijiEN rate, despite being less than 1/3rd the CCV.
The quality of this thread has turned into a garbage landfill.
>>30673170ogey
>>30673170Too much wordYou know there are people who don’t like all of the bs you just listed right? And those people would rather watch Hololive precisely because of thatNow don’t pretend you suddenly know what billions of people on Earth prefer. You know not everyone like Niji
>>30673224Yes it was a shill stream why don't you fucking click it to find out next time retard
>>30673238view farms...
>>30672716>>30672845I can already tell you're the kind of poster who bullies Yaminions just because they want 1 (ONE) solo stream from Shu instead of weeks of collab spam.
>>30673170
>>30673170Are you paid by Riku or Noor?Scarle, a spicy Lantino? kek
>>30673170That's why I switched to Niji. All the girls in Holo are so boring and samey. I tried watching Council, but they're literally just Myth-lite. In Niji there's a huge variety of streamers to choose from, all of them with their own skills and hobbies. They feel like actual individuals instead of shells pumped out by a corpo
>>30673170>HOLY ESL
>>30673224Woah so is Salome like, Riku shill machine now?
>>30673067that's what happens when you spam mmo autism for almost 5 years and doesn't care about catching up to trends or whatever
>30673328>pumped outfunny that you say that.....
>>30673170my fucking sides
>>30673260It's friday anon, discord fujos / trannies are on overtime today
>>30673357MMO AUTISM FOR 5 FUCKING YEARS!!?JESAS how can any channel survive that
>>30673170Okay this is exquisite bait, well played>Gura's idol profile drama>Scarle as a spicy Latino>Fucking bnha and bakemonigatari referencesHere's your (you) now go shit up the catalog
>>30673350Seems like it, management finally figured out what to do with her, but it's too late and meaningless
This was the longest sub gap yet between +10Ks for Salome. At this rate she'll hit 2M in 2023.
>>30673302>Watching a Nijinigger streamI'd rather gouge my eyes out
Is this what its like when you sit on the floor for too long? Riku could've made a killing selling chairs as merch
So, the nijisanji argument just boils down to "wah wah wah, i hate idols, give me LGBT shit and sex jokes!", right?
>>30673416It didn't
Why are nijisisters like this?Are they Noor's wumaos?Everytime they come here, the thread goes to shit, like always.
>>30673517It's the discordfags.
I swear there are atleast 5 Niji fans whose job is to come with the shittiest bait and they supply it to thread to make it look like NijiEN is relevant and big.
>>30673238Atleast compare it to similar types of content. You wouldnt expect a Minecraft stream, a karaoke, a SC reading, a birthday stream or a collab to have similar CCV or superchats, so why are you assuming that every type of stream has the exact same patter for viewer participation?
Holokeks are afraid of NijiEN inclining because it means> 1. Hololive is no longer the leader of the EN scene> 2. They blew a massive lead in the EN market like NijiJP did in the JP market in 2020And most devastating of all:> 3. It proves their chuubas aren't anything special after all if anyone can incline to becoming a 10k streamer, and holokeks only watch them because they have the Holo brand slapped on them
>>30673517stop over reacting it is just one retard posting his fanfics and people laughing at him, sure it is probably best ignored but if it bothers you it is easy to hide the chains
>>30673547Sounds like their reddit begging too. Probably the same people.
>30673581Anyone who replies to him is a nigger.
>>30673444Those faggots don't even watch their own kind, like how they can easily ostracize their own when there's some digression
>>30671153too clean. mito 100% has a jungle down there
>30673581trying too hard. fuck off.
>>30673547I find it funny because they always complain about Holo running this board when>They mention Holo every chance they have>All of their problem can be fixed by actually going to the Niji thread or the Nijifan Discord to get their fill of Niji discussionYet they insist that this number thread here must discuss Niji and they refuse to leave this place
>>30673444Literally just a holofag that is falseflagging. Same faggot has spammed the thread for three weeks now
>>30673547Nijisanji's defence force isn't a meme.
>>30672877yeah, this thread was really high-quality before that post.
>>30673625Post his latest numbers.
I used to be neutral towards nijisanji before I started posting in this thread. Good job, nijinigs.
>>30673695The funny part of that, is that they are so simple minded that they cannot defend in more than one thread at a time
>>30673010imagine giving hiromoot money
Aaaaaa kino dark elf, dagger, irys gambling club
>>30673777where are her TKB?
>>30673576Anon, I literally compared what should be the English watchalong of the fucking hypest event for Nijisanji with a fucking super-chat reading session. You literally can't get any more in favor of Nijisanji than that, and even with that severe handicap, they still look awful in terms of any sort of measurable engagement metric.
Oh no no no he brought up NijiJP again, watch him shittalking Koshien any moment now
nothing in this cesspool will ever kill my desire to breed with mito
>another kaela stream for the dayin the past few hours, kaela has done 3 streams and is about to play minecraft in a few hours.
>Nijisanji en is more like bakemonogatariI wonder if this is already in the NijiCOEP list.Btw, I watched a single episode of that anime, hated it, deleted the mkv, deleted the torrent without seeding, reported the page to the japanese copyright association (which, interestingly, filed a DMCA against it and took it down), gave it a bad rating on MAL, on IMDB, jumped on the most recent NjiEN stream (it was an Enna stream IIRC), disliked it, reported it for misleading content, accessed by history and deleted the visit not to get them a view, then turned 360 and walked away
imagine if irys would always stream during these dead hoursshe can pander to the JP all nighters, EU evening and NAs who can watch streams while working
>>30673743Sure, here, a collab with Ren, what's your point?
>>30673800How the fuck HoloJP alone managed to keep the Rust server alive 24/7?
>>30673859based
Where do these mucho texto badly written ESL niji gaslighting posters came from? It's all blatant lies and things no sane person would agree with, almost like a copy pasted schizo template.
>>30673888the classic nijislope. why do their fans always run away after 15 minutes?
>>30673803inverted
>>306738884.2k in a split POV collab is not "no one watching." In fact, it's more than most of Tempiss' solo ccv numbers
>>30673743Here you have, some numbers, for the moment he doesn't seem to be able to break 4k if he isn't collabing.
>>30673899She was reading SC, then heard elf, chat told her to check it out, apparently Anya was also there, now they're gambling
>>30673933discord. it alwalys feels coordinated and i see posting styles for 2 or 3 people most of the time when the spam starts.
>>30673073>popular belief of no "nijibox"This is something encouraged by nijifans themselves.A casual viewer's first impression of Nijisanji is usually "There's so many of them wtf".And the immediate reply from Nijifans is "you don't need to know about everyone, just follow the ones you like.".This philosophy is the polar opposite of a "box". A niji you don't care for is no different from an indie or 2view that you don't care for. This mentality blurs the line between being in nijisanji and being a 2view/indie.This mentality is the reason a lot of people thought that Shoto was a Niji liver.If there are no boundaries that set apart the people within your group from those outside of it, then your group has no identity.
Lamy is much sexier than any Niji could ever hope to be
Enna 6k again. The incline is real.
>>30673949>invertedTHE BEST KIND, WAMY LET ME SUCK EM
>>30673888Holy shit look at that chatting graph. Over half the time it's under 100 chats/minute.
I wonder how much is paid to be a Nijitroll. I bet they only pay the discord leader and then the leader encourages its members to go monke. That is my theory.They brag about Iluna's so-called success but it won't work here because of Aia and Scarle's numbers.
>>30673170>I used to be an fan of holo ena likely story
>>30674008What do they even hope to achieve by shitting up this thread? Baffling
>>30674037thank you for the insight, akutan
>>30674048based elfchad
>>30672189>>30672418did Rushia break the greatest record?
>>30674092DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30674141>elf>chaddoes not compute.
DON'T LEAVE YOU STUPID FUCKING IRYS, JUST GAMBLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30673547>make it look like NijiEN is relevant and big.If this is their objective they are failing miserably.If this retardation was not the same shit they spewed on twitter and reddit, I might even have thought that it was some falseflag op to pain Nijifans in a negative light.
>>30674195No she did not have a graduation stream
So, we're all in agreement that we should ignore every niji number from now on, right?
>>30674037Aia called Shoto "Shoto senpai" the other day so...Don't forget Shoto also called Kanae senpaiHe's a Niji
>>30674270She was going to hit 6k anyway, Luca joined VC
>>30674270I mean, is anyone even watching the stream here?
>>30674224Elven women are the superior race of women.
>>30674270>we
>>30674282That's fucking grim
>>30674224imagine not liking elves
>>30674270Anon, she's got a bunch a boys with her in voice chat. You can ignore the stream. She's worthless other than an accessory to the boys, and she seems to have accepted her fate.
>>30674370Yes, we. Nijinigs don't get a vote. Sorry.
>>30673170>an fan>an vast>an spicy>an great singer>an cultureoh it's this guy againwho taught you English lad? you should give them a slap.
>>30673237they might be bored.
>>30674270No, I want to see the Kiara line in action so I can use it as catalog bait. Should get a good number of yours, the bae and irys bait is already getting boring.
>>306742706 niji 1 povenna inclining!!!
wamy is a cat
>>30674551The Kiara line makes no sense. It has to be someone from Council. Council are the ones that Fulgur singled out.
>>30674258Its a classic mentality when the talents themselves are not generating any hype the fans feel to take it upon themselves to stay relevant. Hololive relies on Organic marketing and word of mouth, Niji is all about shoving ads down the throat.
>>30674579grim
ENNA 7K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30674592Wamy my beautiful blue cat elf wife
WAIT WHAT? >Gura and Pekora interacted on RUST?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Q9exwcqmQ
>>30674282I honestly don't know why he bothered with all that drama about him not being a Niji.Collabing with NijiEN for a while is enough to get their brand to rub off on you (and get a bunch of free eyeballs) because they have zero boundaries.[side note: This lack of boundaries may be the reason why they banned Holo collabs, because the sheer power of the Holo osmosis system would likely drain their audience dry]At the same time you don't have to deal with any oversight from their management, or fallout from any collab, or having to split superchats and merch revenue.It's a pretty sweet deal.
>>306745796k ccv / 6xniji = 1k ccv
>30674670kys
>>30674670
>>30674579look it's fungus COVID from luxiem Mark2 wasn't reimu on a hiatus at that time?
>>30674746not the first time anon
>>30674768The math checks out. Nijinigs really boasting about their 1k chuba?
>>30674608If I was going to make it someone in Council it would just be Bae and there aren't enough brats who would care about it so it would be shitty bait unless I tried to pit brats and saplings against each other
>>30674797>Luca joined vc>insta z'd
>>30674829LET ME LICK EM CLEAN WAMY
>>30674579Fuck, seriously. This is why nijien girls inclining is a meme
>>30674885How is this any different from Holo girls collabing with Holostars?
>>30674761Probably to give him freedom to leech bigger targets later down the line on his "own merit"
>30674921Kek, lol, lmao, even
>>30673547They’re doing it for finana “favors”
>>30674488It just ensures these threads stay shit. Just ignore them for 30 minutes and they'll go fuck around in the catalog and bored retards can follow them.
>>30674761>I honestly don't know why he bothered with all that drama about him not being a Niji.My rrat was that it was a request from the Niji end because it's definitely not a bad thing for Shoro to keep the association.Maybe someone like Mysta had a menhera fit behind the scenes or something, I seem to recall Mysta being involved in some sort of Shoto drama but I've already forgotten the details.
>7 people in a fucking VCCan these girls get numbers on their own merit
>>30675065>Can these girls get numbers on their own meritOnly Pomu, as far as I can tell. I don't think she had anybody in her chat last night, but she was playing a horror game that Gura played the day before.
AAIIIOOOOOOO 7 LIVER VC STARTS TO Z
Dead hours? You could be watching this cute girl right now!
>>30675190>5Jesus christ
>>30674885She had 4.9k solo before anyone joined. And she had 5.3k solo the first stream of this game. Compare that to Enna's streams in feb or from last year. You are only lying to yourself of you think she hasnt inclined, she went from low 1k average to now 3k+ almost every single solo stream. Of course she isnt a 6-7k chuuba or how much she is getting this collab, but she has inclined a lot. Can't deny that
>>30674761Makes me think how ironlungs' supposed vtuber and friends rust server would work out for the nijiens that would likely join. Will they incline due the server having flesh streamers on there as well and could get a new audience?The rust server is doomed to become a drama fest anyways.
>>30675065nijien are definitely /here/
>>30675190Does the amount of Z's correlate to the amount of livers in a stream or what the actual hell is going on?
Looks like Mori is going all in on Tempus next week.
>>30675057>My rrat was that it was a request from the Niji end because it's definitely not a bad thing for Shoto to keep the association.Interesting and plausible.If that was the case, then putting out that space (Not YT video mind you, harder to find for his twitch audience AND the NijiEN Youtube audience) absolved him of all responsibility, and NijiEN management can no longer blame him for their fans getting confused. He made it perfectly clear after all.
>>30675236How about you just say that she's inclining instead of constantly trying to compare her to holos? That's the part that sets people off. You nijinigs can never talk about the merits of your streamers, you just use them as a blunt weapon against the enemy.
>>30675236Well, she inclined because she avoided fps games she used to play and do streams that fujos tend to like
>>30675299How so?
>>30675065not really, they melt together into an amorphous mass of collabs, waiting rooms and raids. occasionally they get good numbers with buff content
>>30675357Magni and Vesper
Spamming loser lewds is really pathetic honestly, I don't see the point when Lamy will definitely win another gold this year
>>30675190HoloEN might be doomed for today, I don't see any streams On the schedule which can take EN gold from this unless Gura streams.
>>30675271They won't lose their audience at least. "VTuber" and "flesh streamer" are disparate enough topics that it's unlikely to cause their audience to leak to the other side.They will definitely get a few new eyeballs from the Twitch side of the aisle... time will tell if twitch folks like them or crap on them, you can never tell with that site.
>>30675425/BECOME/
>>30675402I really hate that her first instinct was to attach herself to them
>>30675425they just want to spam porn dude it's not that deep. They'll spam the same porn when she wins again next time
>>30675532it works!
>>30675435Anon, the fucking Koshien watchalong will mog this into oblivion. THAT'S the only contender today and might win because Goober has no schedule therefore no real reason to stream
>>30675435If Gura stream , remember Luca also has a koshien watchalong tonight too
>30675435The biggest stream from midget side as of now is baseball watchalong retard. Like seriously make better bait.
>>30675565I'm also becoming aaaaaaaaaaaa
>>30675514All it takes is a few clips on LSFWell I say that but Vtubers have ended up on there a few times and as far as I can tell they're always shit on
>>30675402This is a really interesting schedule to say the least, also, first holostar collab tomorrow too holy shit
>>30675402I thought the boy have a one week more before collab ban ends
>>30675604If the baseball watchalong gets a single Z, it should be removed from the tally. I'm tired of this shit.
>>30675650She didn’t waste a second, basically the moment collab ban was over she went for it. She still hasn’t had a one on one with some council members
>>30675402>>30675535I think it's one thing to want to collab with them but i think it's really cringe that she's trying to do it literally as soon as feasibly possible. I mean this is probably the first day Noir can even do collabs lol
IT'S NOW 8 FUCKING LIVERS
>>30675402i hate it... 2in one week even
>>30675402also there is the myth+councilrys jackbox that gura set up on the 16th
>>30675402So much for "giving them time to establish themselves"
>>30675712Yes it is his absolute first collab outside of tempus, bitch didn't even let them collab with their actual stars senpais
>>30675758
>>30675758lel
>>30675402Next week maybe with bael and homos will end their honeymoon with holoen and move to ID
>>30675758Millie, I refuse to join your friend's stream. please stream already
>>30675299>>30675402already trying to leech from themabsolutely shameless
>>30675425Nijiniggers can spam loser lewds if they want when they lose. But that would require them to have actual fans, so it won't happen.
>>30675781The date is already confirmed? I thought it's just chat encourage Gura to organize another big cross gen EN collab and she just give a "yes" and that's it.
>>30675902Mori said it's on the 16th so yes, probably just no confirmed time yet since she didn't put it on her schedule
>>30675881>watching a nij
>>30675646LSF isn't always the same as the general twitch audience. For example the OTV group barely get any discussion there on a regular basis but they're still pretty largeThat said I think they'll never quite vibe with Corpo tubers.
>>30675758Idk who is more pathetic the beggar who says "Inclining" like parrots or their shameless oshis
>>30675402NOOO STAY AWAY FROM THEM
>>30675514As long as they don't lean on the gay baiting and who's the bottom the jokes they should be fine at large unless they cause some large scale drama per rust server tradition.
>>30675890i know holofans are incapable of admitting defeat, but this is just making you seem more pathetic
>>30673933paid trollsim not kidding
I don't understand NijiGamers. Is there an actual market for this? The JP and EN scene are pretty different. Sweaty tryhards would most likely watch Dr Disrespect or whoever the fuck is a popular fps whore on youtube.
>>30675402imagine the shitstorm if they get invited to chadcast
>>30675402DON'T TOUCH NOWA-OJI YOU FUCKING WHORE
man i forgot just how good rion's lewds are
>>30676120post some winner lewds then. talk about the koshien stream while you do it too.
>>30676106The girls will cry when someone raids their base offstream to farm pity SCs
>>30676120post niji lewds, oh wait you cant cause you are just a schizo
>>30675758just waiting until the next Hololive wave mogs them
>>30675817imagine being the og stars, "sorry i'd rather collab with a seperate group than you, stars who?"
>>30675535at least her first collabs is with the based ones
TEMPISSHITS ARE MELTING DOWN
>>30676120What the fuck are you even whining about? Then just post some you fucking retard, no one's stopping you posting Oji-oji's dick or any other Niji talent for that matter
>>30676163at least let them collab with stars JP first you retard (though to be fair it's also magni and noir's fault)
>>30675402wait what? collab ban ended already?
>>30675402My poor nowa...
>>30676253The truly based one is Regis for shooting down the homobeggars when they made noise about it
>>30675402>Still no one on one collab with Fauna or MumeiI feel like Mori is a secret numberfag, she went immediately for the two popular Tempus members
>>30676427i feel like she's rent free on your head
>>30676189I'd laugh if someone fucking shotty door camps for lulz. But there's likely ground rules and a content first server versus sweaty pvp.
>>30675299Is it even a surprise? She wants to go LOOK AT ME I'M COLLABING WITH THE BOYS just because.
>>30676528
>>30675402Huh, so the EN side collab ban is just 3 weeks from now on then?I guess it hits a nice balance, 4 weeks always felt just a smidgen too long in current day Internet.
>>30676120we're not your surrogate dad, kidfind someone else to slap sense into you
>>30676427Council has been out for almost a year now and they still haven't gotten to every 1-on-1 combination with myth. I don't blame them, imagine Kiara/Fauna collab
>>30675998
Ok, is Youtube doing something again?It randomly recommended me 2 3 year old Shion songs today.https://youtu.be/NO66dNMwmbUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X8WDBEc_PEI haven't watched a Sion thing since her last stream 2 weeks ago, and haven't seen these 2 in about a year.Haven't even been on an old song binge or anything.
Say goodnight
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>>30675402>Mori is an EU streamerI actually forgot about this.
And by the end of it
>>30676130Mori and Bae probably want to do it. IRyStocrats are in massive danger, lol.
>>30676916poor irys...
>>30675953Got a timestamp for that? Thanks
>>30676916> IRyS will mention roberu again Please....leave my son alone...
>>30676916Easy solution for this, irys can just go on on of her mysterious breaks and say her voice is dead or she's recording or something and she'll just be missing for one episode
>>30676804Damn, missed her by 2 minutes.
>Rion and Ramy>Blonde and Blueexcellent taste
TAKE 2, TO /BECOME/
>>30676693>imagine Kiara/FaunaYou could have just asked you knowhttps://youtu.be/NyIqYW0r_5w
TOP KEK, seems like too much acceleration is stressing out the NijiEN livers EN gamers didn’t even debut yet and the livers are already malding>Sorry Selen, NijiEN gamers is for boys only
Does this qualify as leeching?
You know what time it is?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZanB0JLuSEIt's bae bullying time
>>30676693>imagine Kiara/Fauna collabanon...
>>30677903I concede
Why does Lamy get so much high quality sex artThe fuck
Goddamn, please keep going with the Rion art.
>>30678048WTF, this happening so often I’m starting to believe this rrat
>>30676693Fauna has yet to 1 on 1 with Ame, Ina, and Mori because not a single one of them have asked her for a collab.
>>30678118Because she is peak sex
oh fuck we're almost at image limit, can you lammyniggers at least let me finish my rion stash
Should I be worried about Mori's collabs will bring the "yass queen" crowd to Tempus?
>>30677972https://twitter.com/_AfterNeo/status/1558069474749779969kinda funny, although idk how widespread it was to have reached trending
>>30678184We'll let fate decide
>>30678189Yes. That hoe is going to cause nothing but trouble for the boys.
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1558168690431905792Niji drama related to the recent wave announcement and people were debating if Selen counts as a female gamer
>>30678159I find it kinda funny with Ame and Ina cause they had an off-collab together + Mumei and Kronii
>>30677835Stop ban evading
>>30678028If both collabs are only on her channel, absolutely. If it's split POV or on the Tempus members' channels then I don't think so.
>>30678299I mean so did Mori now too
>>30678048That's an hour before Bae. Bullying is only when it's at the same time.
>>30678189It is already doing that
>>30678375Anon it's fucking Rust late enough the JPs willl be around and she's not playing for only an hour
O/U on Ame putting up an Elden Ring frame just before Mumei starts tonight?
>>30678304Who said I was? You gonna snitch?
>>30678263She is not pro level but she is a gamer. I don't get why people think calling someone a gamer equates to calling them to a top 100 pro.
>>3067846699,9%
We need the next all female gen and we need it NOW!
>>30678466She's supposedly streaming on twitch tonight.
>>30678519>This time Mori was given the reins on who to recruit
>>30678566Eh, there's worse choices than MilkyQueen.
/mans/ is melting down
you all shitting on nijis all day but nobody is talking about the real final yab
>>30678679Good point about Milky, do they even talk with each other still though?