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get used to niji OPs from now on holokeks
why are nijifags so butthurt? didnt they win today?
>>30659838>>30659812It's.... A premiere anontachi. Pekora truly has no rival anymore, how sad.
Riku's strat really irks me.
Koyori hate watcher, please forgive her. She is betraying Miko and selling her body to the numbers rabbit...
>>30660021(Me)Not a premiere*
>>30659988sure nijifag, its your win today. just do lewdpost like holofags does and stop the fucking seethe blogpost.
>>30660021The manga she's reading is actually pretty good. I had to binge watch it for a two days.
>>30660021she ate all salome's tourists lmao
>>30659669>They are not getting 20k+ ccv per streamTOP KEK, WTF? Wanna know an amusing piece of statisticsRight now, between Holostats, Mado, vstats and vrabi there are >100323 unique streamstracked between them. Wanna know how many are over 20k?>5129Wanna know how many are *not* from HoloJP and HoloEN?>1041Wanna know how many are by boy vtubers?>670Wanna know how many are by boy vtubers not from NIjisanji (or Tempus)?>8720k is a TERRIBLY HIGH bar to clear for ANY vtuber in the whole field, specially for boys, specially for boys not in NijisanjiMight as well put the bar of success in the 100k range because it wouldn't make that much difference for boy vtubers
>>30660041It works. Riku is one of the 50 richest men in Japan now.
>>30660054i'm actually having fun now with this, it's better than running around aimlessly
>>30659988retard-kun i even made a vox op after he won gold and nobody complained, stop being dumb please i'm begging you
Post Saku please. She can't get good numbers herself so August is probably the only time I can see her pics.
>>30660098You make him sound like a money-hoarding scum.
>>30659884Salome was the better solo debut still. IRyS wishes she can get her numbers. IRyS grew fast and started to stagnate at 700k whereas Salome grew fast, has good ccv, and is over a million subs, something IRyS wont see in her foreseeable future.
9.4K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30659988Win or lose nijikek always talk hololive..why?
>>30660114Sorry anon Im in charge of Lamy lewds today
>>30660114fuck you post lain furry fags should kill themselvesfat thigh bodyguards lewds only
>>30660019They care more about the cripple win
>>30660170Sad that Anycolor just turn Salome into a billboard for their ads. If they let her collab with other interesting niji members they might actually create a real box.
>>30660170IRyS might hit 1M by her next anniversary if she's lucky
>>30660021>>30660068She's actually slacking, 24 minutes in and she hasn't gone to the part where it actually matters in the novel. Can't she like, instead of reading it, summarize the first 30 chapters in a premiere? Like, it's about a guy who learns how to fight through YT tutorials and is now making money through YT by showing him fight against bullies or bigger guys than him. How to beat a kickboxer, how to beat a professional boxer, how to beat an MMA fighter in a street fight.
Watching the subs growth from the last days I can confidently say:Marine hit the jackpot thanks to the power of sexPekora also speeded up and I think it's thanks to the power of EOPs, wouldn't be surprised if she gains another 10k within the next 2 days thanks to her Rust interactions and clipsRoboco got a small buff just by interacting with Gura for 30 secondsFubuki would permanently be in the fucking top 3 Vtubers in the world if she wanted to
>>30660021What happened to her? niji bots leave her after 1m subs?
>>30660198I am talking about Saku not Kuroi Shiba or Debi.
What the state /#/ - Numbers has become:>Nijis larping as Holos>holos larping as nijis>Holos and nijis both making shitposts that benefits no one, not even funny>quality of the general is down>nijis making long ass posts that gets massive amounts of (you)>bait being spread far and wide and being bitten by fools>even when nijis win, lewds barely gets posted and they act mad and saltyWhere did it all go wrong?
for lewdposting purposes here is everyone involved in today's gold stream, lize's team won so i'll personally be posting them but anyone here qualifies for lewdspam
This thread has an fucking hate boner against fucking elves for some weird reason. If any other race got 70k this thread would be licking their feet and celebrating but since it's elves you fuckers act like it's not like an big deal. This shit is huge and it puts an stop to dwarf narrative that elves was declining when in fact their inclining every year. Let's us not also forget that elves are flying their streamers out to japan for elf fest which multiple of them confirm yet dwarves can't afford to do the same.Don't forget the bias in treatment in dwarf kingdom vs everyone else. Instead of talking about Lamy like they do all big streams they rather talk about another race that failed to reach 10k. People would rather talk about how an member of the dward race that got 2k vs elves member inclining and getting 5k regular and are approaching dwarf members ccv wise. They also act like dwarfs have some original idea when they copied the ideas from fucking Flare in the first place the only reason why dwarf kingdom is still here today is due to elves. There also the time where elves made elf fes an events for all thing elves next year guess who decides to hold dwarf fes. I like the dwarf kingdom but it is the idea of keeping up with joneses.
>>30660276???Wanting panda's lewd makes you a furry, anon. It's not rocket science.
>boost koshien with all our viewfarms>but sire, the salome numbers...>JUST DO IT!!!
>>30660139He literally said in an interview that he started Nijisanji to quickly make money on a trend and he didn't see it lasting a long timeIt was their COO Iwanaga who had the passion and drive and he got poached by Vshojo
Salome, your 10k floor...
>>30660170Salome was very obviously botted for a long time.Irys's Youtube subs slowed with everyone else in Holo because Youtube started doing daily sub culls.
>>30660285luxiem.
>>30660262bot money all goes to koshien for the time being please understand
Why niji dont play rust? its a good game to boost number for unpopular livers. are they only care popular livers?
>>30660253Marine can legit be the second most subbed vtuber.
>>30660285nijien existed
>>30660285/#/ took one too many bait and both niji and holo fans seems to think that the all out war should be happening in here instead of nijiEN and hlgg.
>>30660342Okay, I kek'd.
>>30660341we love elves here!
how do we save iluna?
>>30660350Iwanaga. why you went to vshoujo
>>30660285not rangebanning seaschizos
>>30660342I would happily convert to furry and buy a fur suit if that is the case.
>>30660366more like 10k ceiling now
>>30660285Luxiem happened
/news/ roundup for 12-08-2022 (all times are in JST)> From Yesterday : Korone officially announced as a guest for Okayu's SoloLive on 30th September (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000768.000030268.html).).> Information about Hololive goods at C100 slowly being released (https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937).).> Marine will be holding a VR Meet and Greet event on October 2nd and 9th (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1557924837473017856).).> Nijisanji EN announces for male character auditions for their new "Gamers" group (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1557985233449910272).).> Nijisanji Koshien Finals have started (https://youtu.be/aSgXwiEPjg0).).> KSon will be holding a fan meeting event in Taiwan (https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1557985011235966976).).> StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Cover (https://youtu.be/CNxHJN-fKSI).).> Lamy held her 2nd Anniversary 3D SoloLive "Fleur" (https://youtu.be/2Qaek3gXDgg).). Also released a new original song with the same name (https://youtu.be/kU-KWiNpRmw).).> AkiRose revealed her Swimsuit model (youtu.be/otGAFEyKd9Y). Also announced the launch of her original Beer in collaboration with Hansharo Beer (https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1558097315574910977).). She will also be participating in "AkibaYabai", an event celebrating JP subcultures (https://twitter.com/akibayabai2022/status/1558095503568515073).).> Watame revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/-Mcigh-_vvg).).> Nene revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/zHH_dKT56sg).).> Choco revealed her Nurse outfit (https://youtu.be/irimNFUdNiA).).Previous : >>30584431
Suisei and Yui are on NHK Radio for those who care.
prediction, Nijijp or nijien new wave debut next?
>>30660341To show our love for elves, I shall be posting Wamy lewds today, we all shall /become/
>>30660285Hey I'm doing my part for the lewdposting no matter which side wins. If you don't consider these to be enough I might as well not post lewds anymore.
>>30660506News anon, Nene did not reveal her swimsuit
>>30660512isn't that tomorrow?
>>30660512And Sora too, wanker!
>>30660285Flags would solve all of our problems
>>30660450with wave 7 and gamers
>>30660019They know Koshien isn't a real win, and they'll get stomped after the 15th
>>30660563Now. They are singing Daybreak Frontline.
>>30660455Anycolor had essentially put him in the banishment room, the project he was leading got canned in the runup to their IPO
>>30660566>SoraWe don't talk about shitters here.
>>30660566Ahhhh yuiiii.. why you went to neo porte.
Holy shit the manga is so boring, some more it is a long strip instead of normal format. No wonder she can't get 10k. Anycolor really killed Salome.
>>30660538you are doing good work by yourself but that's the problem, it's only you.
Salome’s 10k floor just shattered…
>>30660561fuck really? I couldn't scroll back and she had it on the thumbnail so I thought she had revealed it.
>>30660378Some rrats from last night talked about a RUST server with Niji,Vshojo and some OfflineTV+ streamers
>>30660554My POV
>>30660619Kys
>>30660041 (me)I do not like his kind of mindshare. Sure, it makes him rich but he treats his talents as expendable tools instead of being a essential building block of the Nijisanji brand. It is a bit of an AKB. Runts are treated as runts while big fishes gets more support. His strat is not really black but still.But at least, there is some freedom, and you get a free rental of an avatar you can use in your free time. I can at least appreciate that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHqfzP3nV2cBets on if hes gonna read the /#/ SC?
>>30660619Here sister, I know you want it.
>>30660739Oh hey he's going to get 2k for this isn't heFuck superchat readings
>>30660739He will respond with a WHO? or a O Rely and move on
>>30660600suichan is singing? is this pre record or live?
>>30660633she did it to herself, back when mito was still the top she said that she was free to choose if she will take a sponsorship or not, and if she doesn't take it the sponsorship will just be passed to someone else to has it. salome must be accepting literally anything thrown at her the moment they started taking offers for her.
>>30660739huh, he still named it "Chatting", but I wonder how many less viewers he will get
>>30660737>mindshare
10k streamer
>>30660807I'm going to listen to him only because he can actually do zatsudans, and because the /#/ superchat.
>>30660729Bloke that drew this needs more contact with live models, because that's definitely not how butts work.
>>30660737Ichikara was an actual unironic black company in its early days anon, they admitted it themselvesThey had dozens of interns working 16 hour days and sleeping under their desks
Pekomiko daughter...Miko team in S1Peko team in S2S3????
10K DORYAAAAAA
I have to shave my beard now…
>9,999dorya
>>30660883Yes? He's unironically the 3rd highest ccv male vtuber behind Chinman and Kuzuha.
/news/ roundup for 12-08-2022 (all times are in JST)> From Yesterday : Korone officially announced as a guest for Okayu's SoloLive on 30th September (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000768.000030268.html).).> Information about Hololive goods at C100 slowly being released (https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937).).> Marine will be holding a VR Meet and Greet event on October 2nd and 9th (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1557924837473017856).).> Nijisanji EN announces for male character auditions for their new "Gamers" group (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1557985233449910272).).> Nijisanji Koshien Finals have started (https://youtu.be/aSgXwiEPjg0).).> KSon will be holding a fan meeting event in Taiwan (https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1557985011235966976).).> StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Cover (https://youtu.be/CNxHJN-fKSI).).> Lamy held her 2nd Anniversary 3D SoloLive "Fleur" (https://youtu.be/2Qaek3gXDgg).). Also released a new original song with the same name (https://youtu.be/kU-KWiNpRmw).).> AkiRose revealed her Swimsuit model (youtu.be/otGAFEyKd9Y). Also announced the launch of her original Beer in collaboration with Hansharo Beer (https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1558097315574910977).). She will also be participating in "AkibaYabai", an event celebrating JP subcultures (https://twitter.com/akibayabai2022/status/1558095503568515073).).> Watame revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/-Mcigh-_vvg).).> Choco revealed her Nurse outfit (https://youtu.be/irimNFUdNiA).).> Suisei appeared as the Host and Sora + Hizuki Yui (VSPO) appeared as guests on NHK Radio's "VR:VTuber Radio" program (https://www.nhk.jp/p/vr-radio/rs/6N87LJL8ZM/).).Previous : >>30584431
>>30660856>back when mito was still the topThat was like ancient internet time right? Now it is not ichikara anymore but anycolor, so the terms for new livers might changed.
Out of top 20 today, there are only 8 nijis, in which 4 of them are koshien stream. It's kinda looks grim that even with koshien, they can't pass 10 streams inside top20, and without koshien, only 4 streams made it to top20. and the punchline, nijien desperately need koshien to enter top20
>>30660856Either that, or she's on a different contract more akin to a traditional voice actor, as some people speculatedRemember Nijisanji hasn't had auditions for a long time, and she didn't come from VTA, so she wasn't hired in the same way as everyone else
>>30660350Vshojo Japan?
>>30660450they can't be saved
>>30661000Thanks as always /news/ anon
>>30660956Did she get a funnel at around 15 minutes?
10K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>30660450Dissolve the whole wave.
>>30661027let them happy for this 3 days
>>30660983Isn't Mito quite old already? She has been doing the JK shtick for like 4 year plus already right? Isn't it too embarrassing to keep up the act with her age? Sora already dropped the "JK" part long time ago.
>>30661075Yes, he's running it.They also hired a very experienced idol producer (lol)
>>30660567Being able to differentiate between eurosharts and seasharts would certainly be nice.
>>30661021it was only in 2021 that she was surpassed by kuzuha, and even then she was still the top female so she was still the top pick for sponsors that looked for girls
>>30660455I honestly hope VShojo JP make some moves soon. They got so many big names in management and training, I can't imagine they'd just take KSon and Nazuna into twitch and just be satisfied with that.
>>30660956>10kDid they ran out of bots?
>>30661027man... so this is the real power of niji without koshien.. looks pathetic
>>306610201M more
>>30661000https://youtu.be/Wg6F-iSCwdk?t=1823Roboco also revealed her 3D Swimsuit model anon
Where's my Lize lewds?Post Lize lewds
>>30660912My goodness.
>>30661027>ame and flare out of all people beating the shit out of nijijp liver koshien watchalongthis is too sad
It is actually sad that I wanted Salome to have higher numbers now instead of lower. She has become the shadow of her former self in just a few months.
I was wondering why Omega was so sexy. He has the same mama as Lize.
>>30660807I've formed a habit around his schedule kek, so I'd think he'll get around 3k at least.Would be hilarious if he gets 5k though, would make him the first chuuba with no reduced numbers in supa reading.
>>30661027these days are like christmas for them let them be
>>30661127She doesn't really give a shit, she said that she will always and forever be a JK no matter what everybody tells her. Also there's nothing to be embarrassed anymore when the entire internet already knows her entire personal history.
>>30660739Kek, his thumbnail game is on point
>>30661000>StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Coverwasn't it an original song?
>>30661027AYYEEEE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE
>>30661195Be mad at anycolor for completely mismanaging her
>>30661020RUN FASTER AI
>>30661159no one posted it in this thread... again...haaa, I'll put it for tomorrow as usual...
>>30661027>Elira top 10LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>30661213Damn internet schizos are just too powerful to dig out everything about her.
Imagine if you showed this to /#/ from 2 months ago
>Gura's and Mori's songs reached 1 mil in 24 hours, several millions in a few weeks>*crickets*>my treasure box reached 5 mil in two weeks>spammed everywhere on twitter, several seiyuu mentioned Marine, her dance is imitated all over the social media I don't get it.
>>30661158Check 3-4 threads agoIt's probably the other team's turn.
>>30661232... well fuck, I have no excuse for this one.Have a Lain as compensation.
>>30661027should i give them pity views..?
>>30661000Thank you news anon
>>30660897If he skips it, it could be a proof that he is /here/ or at least aware of our existence.Uncle Nowa, pretend as if the superchat does not make sense.
>>30661297she's really inclining. almost at gura level already. she'll be a gold contender in a couple of months.
WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE DEATH!?>THE MILLION SUBS NIJISANJI PRODIGY, THE QUEEN OF QUEENS, MOST SUBSCRIBED WOMAN IN NIJISANJI ARMED WITH RARITY BUFF AND SPRINGY HAIR?>a fucking tanned elfTHE ANSWER WILL SHOCK YOU!
>>30661278I watched it but didn't want to post it because it would only catch shit from the spergs
>>30661343No-one cares about Gura and Mori outside of EN box.
>>30660450iluna being mogged constantly by the supposedly runt of holoID, just graduate already
>>30661027Come on now anon, thread is already shit as it is ...
>>30661320As someone who never faltered in telling /#/ about Salamibots, I can say that these are just par for the course. Expect sub 5k before the end of the year.
>>30661343vtubing is niche in the west
>>30661362>giving a niji views
>>30661362not even niji management care about them. why you should?
>>30661343Only Chumpedos watch Gura, while Marine's sex appeal is transcendent. Still, Aitore hate.
>>30661382Grim
>>30661382Both, because the streams started on different days
>Niji channel gold for the next 4 daysGuess these Niji lewds I saved up over the years aren't going to waste
>>30661278Dropped it when talking about Choco's return (and nurse model 2.0 showcase) overlapping Nene's countdown.A lot of smaller events were happening at the time.
>>30661442That's the ongoing head to head
>magged by a fucking JPStarsgrim
Salami bros.. what the fuck went wrong? We were supposed to take over vtubing with a 100k median..
>>30661388just don't be surprised if /news/ stuff doesn't make it on the daily report if no one posts it here, I don't exactly have the time to browse the entire board scouring for news every day after all...
>>30661401makes you wonder if the songs were botted.
>virtual to liveYab
>>30661487I'm not surprised at all
Tried to watch Honhima due to the poacher anon, but I can't stand her voice. No wonder she is a 4view dangerously close to 3view.
>>30661504Where?
>>30660285Thread IDs would literally solve the issue, you can tell it's just 2 or 3 schizos on each side every thread going ballistic and just being able to point them out and shame/ignore them would make this thread usable.
>>30661504it's actually decent, I heard it before.
>>30661343Q is a shit song. MV is nice to look at since it was done by nuGainax. Senchou has that blend of catchy song and meme worthy animations.
>>30661343Gura and Mori views come from looping from their fans. Their songs aren't really that good and have no reach outside of their fansMy treasure box went viral because of the quality of the MV and the coom
>>30661464since when was sana a niji?
>>30661382>>30661320>>30661480the absolute state of nijisanji....
>>30661343Big fish in smallish pondVsMedium fish in HUGE POND with EVEN BIGGER FISH swimming around everyday. It's just that much harder to catch the attention of any NA-based stuff when there are so many competing entertainment mediums.
Grim or mindshare?
>>30661251What exactly could they have done? Kept the huge number of bots on instead of lowering the number as she got fewer real viewers?
I prefer Lize over kanata all day
>>30661536here https://radiko.jp/#!/live/JOAK-FMSuisei on NHK, already ended though.
>>30661596Who the actual fuck would prefer the leech over ANYONE, including Vshojo whores
>>30661343It’s coomer bait. It’s impressive still but I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary for it to trend. Hololive itself gave it push it needed to get attention from normies
>>30661472Oh I saw the Choco nurse pic, but I was speedreading the thread.No worries I'll just add it in tomorrow's post.
>>30661536NHK Radio>>30661560It's good I like it
Is there Uooooooohhh livers in niji? Gotta stock something up for 4 days of Koshien.
>>30661464>Sana channel>Niji lewdsMight as well post Nose at that point.
>>30661617Aw shit do they leave VODs?Were any Nijis there? Why'd she sing that one in particular?
>>30661648Benisex?
>>30661564>"Don't bite that hand that feeds you if it's holding a knife"is the point i shut it off
>>30661596I would prefer Kanata on my dick over lize
>>30661643many, they're all going to pop up tomorrow in b league
>>30661596can i have both tho
>>30661579Guess what my treasure box is only popular in japan nobody mentions that shit outside of the jp. Q and reflect are both on the top of charts worldwide not just japan.
>>30660567flags wouldn't do shit. this board needs id
>piano Stelalr StellarNice>>30661675>VODsIt's a radio anonchama>Were any Nijis thereNo>Why'd she sing that one in particularShe didn't, they played VtL MV.
>>30661675she didn't sing it. She named it though, she was recommending different vtuber songs.
>>30661666>>30661438>>30660729>>30660631>>30660554NijiJP has some good rapable designs
>>30660253fubuki is gaining a lot of subs lately, she's at 1.94 now
>>30661734And yet in the end it all benefits Hololive which is why I hate this dumb JP vs En timeloop shit. Different markets just have different conditions that result in different outcomes.
>>30661750Hololeeches.............
>>30661787I hope Marine btfo Mori
>>30661596I feel like Lize would be embarrassed and stiff, while Kanata would vigorously try to impress and let you do more stuff to her.>>30661158Here's your 1
>>30661590Collab with the top niji cliques so they get some tourists from her and help her consolidate after her RE7 buf runs outDon't let her play raw dangerDon't overload her with shill streamsLet her be the captain for koshien
>>30661744>>30661750Ahhh ok, the last Radio thingey had a segment where they played recommended songs as well, probably followed that format.Hoshiyomi prime(F) will probably clip it anyway so I'll catch it from there.
>>30661734>worldwideYou mean "English speaking sphere that has access to internet".
>>30661872>Let her be the captain for koshienthat would be chigusa VtL 2.0
>>30661596Trade Lize with Kanata
>>30661787Everytime Fubuki engages on a buff content her sub count skyrockets. I feel like she does debuff content to make her more easier to collab with.
How was Lamy's solo live, did it do as expected/break any personal records?
>>30661822She will and it'll be wonderful
>>30661894She would be getting tourists to inflate her numbers. so higher numbers call for even higher numbers. The reason she got high numbers was because of word of mouth that she was a 100k streamer
Looking at, moris dogshit ccv in this timeslot vs what she can pull in NA, I wonder, is kiara really that unpopular? What if she streamed in NA or Ina's timeslot instead
>>30661813People just want to watch streams. Ayame and Shion can ghost their viewers all they want because there are always people like Miko, Pekora and Koyori etc that can stream. EN doesn't have this luxury due to the small roster but everyone single one of them sure act like they do.
>>30661920>16k potential for 22k potential.I'm not saying Lize wouldn't get bigger numbers in Hololive but, in the numbers thread, Kanata frequently outranks Lize, while being a 2nd tier in her company. Lize flying solo at the top of NijiFem most of the time.Also, no comparisons for live/song performances.
>>30661947Decent for a non first army solo live
>>30661947it's like her 4th most watched after debut, 3d debut and another live that actually had guests, so as a sololive, i think it was pretty good, i was expecting 60k
HERE; BEAR WITH ME>ZETA IS A LAMY!Haters and losers will say she's not!
>>30662006I mean there's a difference of 'en could use more streamers/existing talents could stream more' and the dumb SCHIZO shit that gets timelooped.
>>30662030Lize wouldn't entertain a trade like that to begin with. She has never even interacted with a Holo.
>>30662030Any rank of average ccv for niji JP females only?
I wish haachama would play rust...I want to see a fubuki, matusri and haachama team...in my life time
>>30662101https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1423962587662741507
>>30662101You're taking this too seriously.Neither would Ange, or even Toko, yet they're still brought up, first for baits, then for numbers.
>>30662080Zeta is the runt of her Gen, she can’t be a Lamy
>>30662006And the less HoloEN streams the more their fans find other alternatives like other corpos or indie vtubers or move on/go back to flesh streamers
>>30662088>'en could use more streamers/existing talents could stream more'I mean what you said is just "FUCKING COUNCIL/MYTH ARE LAZY AND COMPLACENT" or "EN3 DOKO" but you worded it better.
>>30662173>corporate mandated industry-wide eventname one holo that she has interacted with under normal circumstances.
>>30662219en3 doko tho
>>30662136Chama doesn’t play games, learn to live with it Haaton
>>30660285Luxiem
>>30661991>Part 4 of a 10 hour VN that released 6 years agoThe time slot isn't the only factor here
>>30661596I don't
>>30662219Wording things better could make the thread far more tolerable a d less insane. It's like people forget that words have implications, and neutral words are better than hostile ones unless you really want to start an all out war.
>>30662254moving the goal posts already i see
>>30662216Definitely. People who screamed "timeloop" just don't understand where the concern is.
>>30662274canceled because council flopped.
>>30661819more like nijileechesWhy would they play that song when the they have Suisei there as host?
>>30662101More like she will never even think of it because her lord and savior is Mito and she would choose death than leave Mito.
>>30662346didn't stop anycolor debuting iluna after noctyx
>>30662254You might find this hard to believe buthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFeeKq4nHj8The advantage of being an oldfag, you remember all those good unity times.
>>30662216My alternative was holoJP. Now I only watch Gura from EN side
>>30662321You can't stop the war. All out war was declared once the discord leak happened. So wording is not really important after that, all we need is winning against the other side to end the war once and for all.
>>30660983yeah, by me
>>30662216audience retention needs consistency, and good luck to HoloEN for that. Only Japs have actual work ethic in vtubing as a job, for HoloEN its a side gig that earns them cash
>>30662159Deron futa x Mito power bottom was the best pairing Nijisanji ever produced, but it also died because Kaede felt award around her friend about it. /u/ needs to contain their shit better.
>>30662414>gundou>unity
>>30662419And hlgg will call you last samurai for that, maybe.
>>30662219when the majority of JP streams less than EN it is fine people make excuses for them context matters, while EN are called lazy, complacent, their projects don't exist, college isn't an excuse, they are only in it for the money
>>30661744>VODS>it's a radio anonchamamy friend, as an avid listener of radiko i can tell you that they do leave VODs. you just have to wait till tomorrow for it to be available. just use a VPN to access and listen.
Let's be honest 10 people should have been enough to fill a week. Even tempus with 4 people manage to fill everyday. If they were twitch streamers, they'd be 2views now.
>>30662216I moved on Tempus/ twitch streamers. Vtubers actually trained me how to handle livestreams.
>>30662493You literally just need to move up 2 reply chains to find the answer for your complain.
>>30662488nah he still has gura
>>30662254>Suisei againshe got to interact with Suisei around Toko's live too.
>>30662477Bingo.
>>30662274Scouting takes time, no way in hell Cover will take shitters like ILUNA or Noctyx that can't grow their own audience
>>30662477>audience retention needs consistency
test, am i unbanned
>>30662480kaede is an absolute retard that just flirts and doesn't do anything else, i feel bad for hoshikawathen again mito is straight so she probably just gave up because of that
>>30662594I'm still not seeing anything that even hints at Lize liking Hololive. Why would she even think about leaving the company that gave her everything she has? This is why the "Lize come home" posts have never made sense. She IS home.
Since the Twitch tags are either fucked or gone, this is the best way to track people now.EN again at the top.As KSon talks about losing her manager, who was preparing things in Taiwan, since she drank too much with fans.
>>30661884https://litter.catbox.moe/8i913u.aacit doesn't have the 10 first minutes though.
>>30662663What was your crime against our cucked overlords?
>>30662652these bitches already reclined and their ex fans in the holobox keep them afloat
>>30662696https://qu.axTry this one if you want a persistent one, to save catbox.
>>30662690>>30662185
>>30662694>kson 3k even with magic twitch numbersgrim
>>30662696friend you can wait till tomorrow for the full segment to be available to listen to again like i said here>>30662513
>>30662694Tower of Fantasy buff only lasted one day kek
>all this lize lewd post>no angegay
The last time she played this game, she got 5k.Will she get another 5k tonight?
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>23,030: Gura (Hololive)>18,773: Elira (Nijisanji) *Z: 21,218*>15,810: Kobo (Hololive)>15,044: Amelia (Hololive)>10,630: Mysta (Nijisanji)>9,462: Kaela (Hololive)>9,269: IRyS (Hololive)>9,034: Baelz (Hololive) *Z: 9,616*>6,640: Regis (Holostars)>6,247: Pomu (Nijisanji)>6,084: Shu (Nijisanji)>5,866: Alban (Nijisanji)>5,673: Axel (Holostars)>5,454: Noir (Holostars)>5,209: Magni (Holostars)>5,575: Kaela (Hololive)>5,365: Ren (Nijisanji) *Z: 6,949*>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact) 4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 10Nijisanji – 2>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 4Nijsanji - 8>SILVER PER STREAMER3x: Shu 1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Reine, Elira>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 8Nijsanji - 4>BRONZE PER STREAMER3x: Kobo1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen
>>30662690It's just cope, someone as hopeless like this will never go anywhere else.https://youtu.be/XAdUk-NnjIMhttps://youtu.be/Rt03hsGZYyM
>>30662706nta, too lood fo noodI have 69 loods prepped for wamysnitches got me last time
>>30662741She is really done. I am waiting for a few other JPs to join vshojo and see the whole ship sink.
Meat shield didn't serve for long lmao.
>>30662706I got banned for spamming/flooding despite only posting ollie outfit reveal beating Vox and Ren's tier list the other day. What a shit ban.
>>30662760oh well, whatever. For the people that can't wait, l guess
Holy shit kobo is #12 trending in gaming despite being in her menhera arc
>>30662775ange is on nui's team tomorrow
>>30662775retard, she's in B league
>>30662815Pink wamy needs to be a better meat shield
>>30662690None of "X come home", "X is honorary Z" or "X for Y. Trade?", ever made sense. Anyone that threats them serious, should go touch grass.
I want to rape Lize so bad...
>>30662821the sisters really don't like holoID, do they?
>>30662771Genshin looks like a fucking masterpiece compared to Tower of Fantasy.
Why college shouldn't be an excuse? Because even Haachama didn't use it as an excuse.
>>30662821huh, never got that one yet
>>30662913The one between the koreans, Shylily, said it had good thing, but she didn't see it lasting long or beating Genshin.
>>30662828i can record it tomorrow like i did when foobs and polka went on tokyoFM but i won't because1. No one cares2. No one would bother to listen anyway
>>30662792>Lize and Kanata are both socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnetsWhy silver women, why?
Is Lize basically the Aqua of Niji but less autistic?
>>30662690It's a fucking joke anon, jesus christ
>>30662954People are playing it right now because :1. it's the shiny new thing2. people are waiting for Sumeru and has nothing to do
>>30662971someone else in the general will record it anyway.
>>30662788>Random RustVS>Highly anticipated Koshien watch along with 11 livers
>>30662792>>30662984>Lize: socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnets, isolated>Kanata: socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnets, boring, leeching.
>>30663049i highly doubt that.
>>30662954nothing is beating genshin ever its a well oiled machine at this point. their marketing game is unmatched and conquered every weeb market possible
>>30663084>21k vs 23kWow! Elira is almost as strong as Gura now, even though Gura has 10x the subs.
>1:21 AM JST>6 rust streams collectively from JP, ID, ENinteresting
>>30663122and Hololive can never play it because the reddit dragon angered the chinese.
Lize is perfect fit for Hololive.Trader her for Matsuri or Kanata please.
>>30662688She'd be a great tomboy lesbian, but she's too stubborn and self conscious.Otherwise she could have had at least a 6 woman harem by now.
What's wrong with Tempus VOD numbers?Despite the 1hr limit to supposedly make following them easier, their VODs are doing poorly compared to a lot of similar length streams with around the same CCV.Is it because their subs are low? Do they not have an audience outside their streaming times?
>>30663084Wtf is that z ahah, are they evolving or what?
>>30663131
>>30662482it's time to copehttps://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1557606407087996928
>>30663175What exactly makes her good for Hololive? She isn't some fake idol.
>>30663172genshin is not a good streaming game unless you established a community around it from the start like a lot lucky streamers did
>>30662832Are there any rrats on what's going on? The tweets make it seem like she lost a relative/pet or something
>>30663232gundou was shit-talking hololive on twitter a few weeks ago.
Jesas immediately trending
>>30663192they share an audience pool of 6-8k on normal streams and 12-15k with tourists on "events". they aren't generating outside interest at all and are slowly reclining without their debut buff.
>>30662971There's a dedicated Suisei clipper who even clips her radio appearances, so she should have one up for this in a few days as well.
>>30663260One ID posted in # said her bf dumped her.
>>30663175>lize is perfectokay anon that watches streams, what were her regular numbers before koshien started?
>>30663281not sure i would call that shit-talkingshe's a retard who shouldn't be allowed to use twitter, but that was just people overreacting
>>30663323the holoEN classic.
For some number perspective Mori streaming part 4 of VA11HA11A while overlapped by Rust and with YouTubes dubiously accurate CCV would be in the top 150 streams on Twitch
>>30663326And got made fun of for not providing any source of source
>>30663089Lize is 100x less interesting than Kanata
>>30663089>part of sanbaka>isolateduhhh
>>30663391Oh hello Kanata
>>30663172Genshin isn't even good for streaming. It only does well on banner or patch days. Pretty much all the twitch streamers who got big off genshin have had to switch to some other content as their main content because it's just not sustainable.
>>30663391and yet she's been consistently holding 40-60k CCV for the last month. could kanata ever do that?
>>30663175I get that you guys like to troll with Kanata and the leech shit, but there's not content comparisions between the 2What would Lize bring to Hololive over Kanata?Kanata does mixing, singing, voicing streams, Live3D streams producing, popularized the "guess the Holo voice" stream and the Beat Meat out of Anger, among many many things.She's always been more creative with her streams that even Coco.
>>30663348OHMY
>>30663192Less subs, less autoplay, less vod views
>>30663456okay now... show numbers?>>30663333
>>30662788>random Gura Rust with sub-1hour frame mogging 11-person watchalong of Niji's biggest eventLMAOSorry for getting caught in the overlap crossfire Bae, but it was for the greater good.
I shall start the process to /become/
>>30663192Low subs and low churn meaning fewer tourists adding views to the VOD.They're now up to 30k and 26k views and they'll probably stabilize slightly above that
>kanata>creative with her streamslol what
>>30663498
>>30663498Allow me to contribute
>>30663497holocope
>>30663383Not really though. The thread just archived before we got anything from him.
>>30662493>when the majority of JP streams less than ENAnon, that's not remotely true.Actually, out of all of the active girls that debuted before Council (and Council), there are more girls with more streams than the top HoloEN streamer (Amelia, a surprise for me) than there are HoloEN streamers in total.All of the Council girls but Baelz are in the bottom half ot the number of streams for the active girls in this list.That's not why they're criticized tho. You are correct and there are girls that have even fewer streams than the Council girls.But if you look at this list, ALL of the JP below Fauna are>Gen 0>Gen 1>Gen 2except for Nene (which ate a "suspension" for the tracing thing then COVID) and Marine.(which fucked up her voice).Council got criticized because they failed to perform the exact task they were hired to do> to take the load off the Myth girlsPeople on the JP side couldn't care less about whether Gens 0, 1 and 2 are stream monsters. They've got Gen 3, 4, 5 and 6 that more than picked up the slackOn the EN side? Things got EVEN WORSE for Gura and Calli now because the have to carry not only Myth now but the whole branch on her backs (in each of their specialty which are live streaming and song production).
>>30663545
>>30663552https://files.catbox.moe/b2zjsd.jpg
>>30663498>1:30 AM and no tally yet>Already a lot of Lize lewdsI'll just start too.
>>30663576just graduate the entire branch now. this is embarrassing.
>>30663456Kanata has held 20k averages at multiple points without any Koshien-equivalent, it'd be good to at least compare similar segments
>>30663563You are welcome to build upon that rrat if you want to.
>>30663588
>>30663532>never watched streams
>>30661137They're garbage collectors.
>>30663644Sorry but Katana is just so boring to watch
>>30663326She confirmed it herself that she's single in one of her member stream
>>30663635
>>30663326What a stupid narrative. When she played AoE2 with the rest of the ID girls, she said she can only play for 2 hours because tomorrow is going to be a busy day for her. And the next afternoon she said that she is sad.The most likely scenario is she went on a long trip to her relatives' house with her family, could be a funeral or the last moment before her relative died, that's more logical than her bf dumped her.
>>30663576last month over half of jp were below ens average according to the hw chart
>>30663626>hololive can only win if you ignore the big nijisanji streamswhy are holokeks always like this?
peko and miko are chatting
>>30663701
>>30663626NTA, but Kanata avoids streaming overlap this year. Her and Towa have been doing the same thing and have numbers that are definitely bloated.
>>30663712>half of jp were below ens averageThe topic is stream frequency, not averages.
>>30663752
I still can't believe Enna is a 4k chuuba now.
>>30663803what?
>>30663281She wasn't talking about Fubuki but the cabaret bitches starting from gen 3 onwards
>>30663747Rust is saved!>Fubuki entersFuck, they're just gonna fish then gamble for 4 hours.
>>30663817
>>30663192Picking some random vods from Noir and Magni (for Noir the Magni interview, for Magni the chatting stream from a few days ago) and their growth rate on the vods isn't terrible. Between 20-25% of VOD views came from the second day of the VOD's life (compared to 40% on Laplus' video there). That 20% difference sounds like a lot but not really when you consider the 500k difference in subs. Despite being - what - 500% bigger she only gets an extra 20%? If we go by rate of growth it probably brings them closer together as well - Laplus at 40-50% vs Noir's 33% on the vod mentioned. Napkin maths so take this all wth a grain of salt.
>>30663719so, why can't holo and niji have H2H while having normal streams? because you will get BTFO so of course you need big streams to compete kek
>>30663827See >>30662493>the majority of JP streams less than ENThat's the topic
>>30663712>last monthWow. All it takes is the laziest member quitting and them doing streams to make up for the entire shitty year Sana had for them to get their asses in gearAnon do you know how trends work? A single month doesn't rectify 6 months of being lazy. Post this cope again when JP is below EN for an entire quarter and then we'll talk
/become/bros…
>>30663873
>>30663712Why would you think data from a single month is more reliable than data from the past 12 months?
>>30663929
Jesus christ tourists absolutely hate Tempus. Debut buff wearing off is gonna bitch slap them all to sub 5k status. Kinda depressing considering how promising they started off with all those 7-10k streams.
>>30663719Does Lize using the highest-viewed vtuber streams (Koshien) win against Kanata using any similar big streams (which content has Kanata done that is comparable brand leeching to Koshien)? Someone run the numbers.
>>30663974
>30663992Enna bait not working?
>>30663897>>30663883the point is, a lot of jps streamed less than the average en last month and noone said a fucking thing whereas the ens got raked over the coals daily and context didn't matter
Fleur is really good huh
>730 waiting for Noir with 20 minutes Damn he probably won't even hit 3k
>>30663532She gets really creative at leeching
The bait's getting stale
>>30664031
>30663992kek
>>30664066Anon if he manages to hit 3k on SC that would be pretty good - Ike couldn't manage it with his 50k "Tourists"
>>30664038>JPs stream less>have visible output in things such as recordings, concerts, outside appearances etc>ENs stream less>*crickets*
>>30663874Is this what people mean by ratiocope?
>>30664033>bait Enna is unironically more successful than all of Tempiss now.
>>30664085
How did Zeta's numbers react when Iofi and Ollie joined?
>>30664116Mori Mori Mori…
>>30664145
I hate Enna schizo so much. First with the Crunchyroll shit and now with the Tempus bait.
It's nice to see Enna poster againHome
>>30664140>grinds for a year to beat holostarsgrim
>>30664192
>>30664033He did put correct number surprisingly.
>>30663576>All of the Council girls but Baelz are in the bottom half ot the number of streams for the active girls in this list.and that's why this list is useless, because it's pretty much irrelevant to the current state of hololive. Do you really think Bae is doing any heavy lifting here?>>30663969>Why would you think data from a single month is more reliable than data from the past 12 months?because by your notion, baelz is saving council and is more relevant than mori in taking the load off of holoEN
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>207,540: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>73,157: Lamy (Hololive)>57,105: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>43,430: Pekora (Hololive)>34,582: Gaku (Nijisanji)>28,898: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>27,283: Fubuki (Hololive)>23,030: Gura (Hololive)>21,218: Elira (Nijisanji)>20,891: Subaru (Hololive)>18,873: Fubuki (Hololive)>16,498: Miko (Hololive)>16,154: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,810: Kobo (Hololive)>15,135: Koyori (Hololive)>15,057: Amelia (Hololive)>14,516: Flare (Hololive)>13,956: Belmond (Nijisanji)>13,823: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>13,760: Koyori (Hololive)>13,293: Roboco (Hololive)>12,771: Toko (Nijisanji)>11,637: Koyori (Hololive)>11,447: Nene (Hololive)>11,122: Hal (Neo Porte)>10,630: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,523: Ponpoko (Indie)No horse race today and with the next few days only variable being> how high Koshien will go
>>30664116except you ignore all the stuff en puts out because it doesn't suit your narrative and the fact that en can't just pop down to studios for morning recordings or have easy access to general facilities, backup streaming setups at the studio while moving etc, that one of their members has had to build their own 3d studios just to be able to get something resembling a 3d live which others have to travel accross the country/world to use
>>30664251
>>30664132anon it's just how numbers work. A streamer with 800k subs should be getting at least 5 times the vod views as a 100k streamer. When the topic is "VOD growth" we're going to stop looking at absolute numbers and start looking at rate of growth to see how well each one is doing. To use pure numbers is to invite uncertainty - how much of Laplus' vod growth is due to her having especially good vod watchers and how much is just "bigger channel = bigger numbers"? Using percentages solves this problem.
>>30664313Homo…
salome falling so hardshe's now mogged by holoID
>>30664308
>>30663847>Fubuki fishingthat's the best part, akai na
>>30664273>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league>PER COMPANY7x: Nijisanji5x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Pekora1x: Flare, Fuwa, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Towa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY138x: Hololive76x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER25x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata, Nijisanji4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>30664363>post numbers in numberthread>get bait repliesI hate koshien month
I don't think it has been talked enough how impressive it is that Koshien A group beat the number of last year's finals. People were expecting 150k and it managed to go past 200k. 300k finals possible?
>>30664373
>>30664371Enna mogs her now
>>30664140>09:42:23
>>30664363You'd think the numbers thread would understand how numbers work. Well you're a nijinigger, so that makes sense
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>23,030: Gura (Hololive)>18,773: Elira (Nochairsanji)>15,044: Amelia (Hololive)>10,630: Mysta (Nochairsanji)>9,269: IRyS (Hololive)>9,034: Baelz (Hololive)>6,640: Regis (Hololive)>6,247: Pomu (Nochairsanji)>6,084: Shu (Nochairsanji)>5,866: Alban (Nochairsanji)>5,673: Axel (Hololive)>5,454: Noir (Hololive)>5,365: Ren (Nochairsanji)>5,209: Magni (Hololive)
>>30664437
>>30664421wouldn't be surprised that it reaches 300k tmr with weekend and king buff
>>30664480Elira got 21k.
last couple of threads some people were discussing how to save Scarle and Maria's numbers (50% chance w/ bf yab) but not everyone else. Are those other fellows doomed or what? I know the juice kid ain't gonna be saved
>>30664485
>>30664514>Maria's numbers (50% chance w/ bf yab)Does the concept of GFE even apply to her?
>she gets her roll over once she starts to post short videos again
>>30664480>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 9Nochairsanji - 3Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Gura1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Vox, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 20Gura: 15Mysta: 9Shu: 9Ike: 8Fauna: 8Kronii: 7Vox: 5Alban: 4Luca: 4Noir: 3Rosemi: 3Selen: 3Elira: 3Axel: 1Ina: 1Kiara: 1Magni: 1Baelz: 1Amelia: 1
>gokishitter spamming him literal who after hardly losing to 200k viewers eventzzzzz
>>30664545To shake it up a bit, here's something for you connoisseurs
>>30663089As much as a holofag I am, u got one thing right, Kanata is the very definition of boring.
>>30664603eigo jouzu!
>nijien koshien watching along on Luca's channel tomorrowRIP EN gold for HoloEN
>>30664465dont insult koboand btw, she's trending top 10 for gaming right now
>>30664480A homobeggar and a tribalfag all in one, unsurprising really
>>3066451018,773.
>>30664277>don't have access to easy 3D>can't put out as much 3D stuff>but also can't spend that extra time where they have no 3D obligations to stream insteadOk man, whatever floats your boat
>>30663993Brand-leeching streams from both, note that Kanata's are over 2 years old since there aren't newer examplesKanata:04EIYwhm5rI FNKYmbxeH1ERIv5YD7FOUg58.5k41.5k30.5kLize: Xli5RnJfpTIZ9wZE9bhgDkgwYb2QZeRhU45.5k65.5k47.5k
>>30664614
>>30664510Kill yourself Z peak poster
>>30664632Gura is playing Rust with Ame...
>>30664678
>>30664631>cant argument go for ad hominem insteadsasuga
i bet my left nut that nowa oji will not get 5kt.risu
>>30664725
>>30664743I'll argue once you stop ESLposting.
>>30664038>a lot of jps streamed less than the average en last month and noone said a fucking thingThat's because JP has a myriad of streamers to pick up the slack the older gens (Gens 0, 1 and 2) leave for them.HoloEN has 11 streamers, six of them (IRyS and Council) having been brought to try to alleviate the pressure of the only 5 english speaking streamers out of the whole Hololive ensemble.When you have the whole new blood from the branch taking it even easier than the old and tired workhorse they came to relief that's a problem right then and there>>30664270>Do you really think Bae is doing any heavy lifting here?Not really and that makes it even worse. Even the one putting in the hours is not helping to improve on the situation, let alone the ones not putting> because by your notion, baelz is saving council and is more relevant than mori in taking the load off of holoENNo she isn't and there is no implication she is in my post.Actually, your post paints an even worse picture I tried with the data: you are highlighting that even the one that is nominally putting in work is not making the situation anywhere better than the rest
>>30664756>Superchat readingYeah i believe you for once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHqfzP3nV2cOk faggots and ladies, numbers prediction.
>>30664756this is a SC reading. he'd have to be pulling Fauna numbers to even get close to 5k with this sort of content.
>>30664771
>>306643936x Niji5x HoloRetard.
>>30664270Jesus I knew /#/ had its share of people who were too stupid to comprehend numbers but this is pretty bad even for this thread. Imagine trying to double down on taking a single month's data saying it proves JP streams less than EN when there's an entire year's worth showing that that's not the case.
>>306648146k
>>30664393Kys
>>30664834
making dinner rn so the promised lewdspam will be next thread, looks like another anon has lize covered so i'll focus on her team members
>>30664795what are they supposed to do, they are a fraction of the size with a fraction of the support, fucked by timezones with the current day hololive expectations piled on them
>>30664689Who gonna stream?. Also remember tonight is Friday: Subaru will overlap gura.
>>30664892
>>30664273Gold beat silver at almost 3:1 ratio. HOLOKEKS BTFO LITERALLY WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS
>>306648143k
>>30663576>>30664795Compare and contrast with ID. Each new generation AT VERY LEAST tried to alleviate the work load on the previous by taking over themselves the burden of both entertaining the existing crowd and growing the audience.That's why nobody criticizes Risu and Iofi: people understand they did the work back in the days and they can rest now.Nobody would criticize Ame and Ina for taking it easy now: both had the highest output on the early Mtyh days and if Council were pulling their weight nobody would say a thing about EN "work ethics".But they aren't and so people are saying things about it.
Why aren't you posting Maimoto lewds? He took down two of Hololive's "first army" this month and he'll probably take the rest down soon too.
>>30664954
>>30664795I suppose an argument could be:>EN doesn't need to match JP streaming hours because the market could be smallerbut do you think it's reasonable to compare them to, say, the hours ID are putting in?
>>30664814Still won't beat Enna.
>>30664975you're in for a rude awakening on Monday
>>30664854>proves JP streams less than ENit doesn't prove anything other than the double standards of this place and the lack of cover the en branch has all while being measured with the same stick
>>30665012
>>30664773>ENnah mate, not gonna learn your shut language that have no purpose where I live, Im too busy learning proper language like japanese to watch entertaining streams unlike yours boring cripled streamers
>>30664814Minimum: 1kExpectation : 2kKneel territory : 3k+
>>30664116Bae and Mumei are college students, which one has to take care of her own bills, her pets, food, supplies and is on a set schedule with classes. Bae had to renovate her home with her dad while being a full time college student and also had an arc with her taking care of pets. Kronii had to move out of her home because she was being abused by her dad, and Fauna’s been streaming enough and consistently while also moving to her own place. They all have/had schedules planned for August so far. But do go on anon about NEETs in Japan who spend 14 hours playing games, with the remainder going to take out, sleeping and meetings
>>30665092
>>30664937>what are they supposed to do, they are a fraction of the size with a fraction of the supportThey have more streamers than HoloID and a whole lot more support too. That's definitely not an excuse.Timezones is a silly claim, something that would be a valid complaint if they were actually streaming in odd hours and failing to get results, instead of having a good performance (like they are now) whenever they actually stream.Notice that the criticism (coming from me at l east) is not that they are underperforming but that Council is failing at the task to relieve Myth from the burden of carrying the branch
>>30665149Here's Wamy's Doog hag friend
>>30665132>Kronii dad abuseQRD
>>30665132>Kronii had to move out of her home because she was being abused by her dadWTF??? Is this from members stream?
>>30664567>But muh no GFEwhy are you retards always like this. Just because someone isn't GFE doesn't mean they won't be hurt by having a boyfriendIt's pretty well established that simply having a boyfriend can hurt viewership. Not just for chuubas for basically any streamer with a semi large followinghttps://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/how-boyfriend-hurts-female-streamers-the-curious-case-pokimane-nrg-lulu
>>30665120Why are you posting on an English language website, then? Fuck off back to your local chan if you're not willing to learn English.
>>30665203
>>30665132>Kronii had to move out of her home because she was being abused by her dadrrat? holy shit
that pekora and koyori interaction was actually pathetic from koyori, literally left alone to apologize for being shit while pekora did everything
>>30664982Nobody talks about Iofi period
>>30665211>>30665235Proof? I am the father
>>30665211>>30665235>believing /infinity/ schizoAnon...
>>30665132Great, you found some valid excuses for them streaming less than JP. Very sad situation all around, do you need a shoulder to cry on?
>>30665203Mr Koro is not sexy.
The next 3rd gen weekly collab will be held on Marine's channel tomorrow
>>30665261
>>30665244Say that to Rushia
Fucking hell 2k at loading screen.For a fucking SC reading.His audience is just gonna treat this as another zatsudan huh.
>superchat reading video no live stream Guys... is Vesper a genius?
>>30665323Here's to the /#/ Queen
>>30665132>KroniiI only remember about a stalker relative but man... Sucks for her if true. Possibly why she sounds so happy if that several good night tweets are anything to go with
>>30665132Sucks for them, but this doesn't change holoEN's situation.
> SC reading as a video instead of a streamThoughts, /#/?
>>30665332>another boring EN shitterzzzzz
>>30665041>but do you think it's reasonable to compare them to, say, the hours ID are putting in?It is not a matter of hours.Absolutely nobody is complaining about Tempus workload right now, despite the one with the most hours (Noir) having 30 hours in 19 days since debut.The problem is not the hours, but the frequent absences
Holos who got carried by design:>Lamy
>>30665316Waste of good buff.
>>30665376
>>30665356>>30665393If it means he can replace SC readings with a different stream then it's a great idea. SC readings are boring content that get bad viewership. The real worry is that it might take too much time or hurt analytics.
>>30665393Better, unless you're one of those people that go on tangents.
>>30663576I'm curious now, do you have one of those with Gen 6? Just make the cutoff 8 months or something.
>>30665439
>>30665356>>30665393SC reading itself is just a big waste of time to begin with.
>>30665504
I like Noir but he needs to stop saying "you know"
>>30665211Specifically dad abuse is unknown, but she did say that a family member was causing problems for her, enough that she moved to escape it.
He's making this into a freaking event kek.Numbers are normal, he might actually get 5k if he goes on for long enough.
>Playing P4G in fucking 2 AM JSTUproar just don't give a fuck huh
>>30665562
>>30665291>Thread tries their hardest to criticize council>Valid reasons come up>N-NO THEY DON’T COUNT WE HAVE TO YELL AT THEM FUCK YOUThis thread is fucking shcizo. Also, the way this topic has been fucking is disgusting too. >Council was brought in to take the load off Myth>They didn’t so now Myth have to do more than everI’m sure Gura will gladly tell you that her best friends in the company where she shared some of her best collabs with and talk constantly with are dead weights and she has to carry them. Like what? NOT are the 3 best performers in EN outside of Gura and Ina right now. The fuck is going on in this thread
>>30665573GSH
>>30665132>Bae and Mumei are college students, which one has to take care of her own bills, her pets, food, supplies and is on a set schedule with classesWelcome to the world of functional adulthood. If you can't handle your workload in school and work and at the same time take proper care pets, guess what?>you are not fucking qualified to own petsAlso>Kronii had to move out of her home because she was being abused by her dad,That is not the story that she told to the best of my knowledge, which was less dramatic than that>abusive relatives had her to decide to become independent and move out of her houseYou are making the Council girls case even worse for them, you are making up stuff that is not even real or said by them
Who was this guy again?
>>30665356>>30665393That seems like it’ll be awful for actually engaging paypigs.
>>30665515why do they even bother reading supas when most of them have no relevant messages?
>>30665615
Wait, no Holos ever played Castle Crashers or Battleblock Theater?
>>30665653Some comic artist/Vshojo associate
>>30665653His bussy
>>30664480>holostars is still not fixedWhat the fuck are you doing?
>>30664851anon, 6-6
Are you shitting me? Thousands of people tune into a dude saying "thank you" to a million SCs? The fuck
>>30665608my left nut......
>>30665132>muh mov MUH COLLAGEBro I don't GIVE A SHIT. These bitches probably won't even use their degrees when they get out of college why the hell should I care? Nothing you have said makes me want to watch or would make any person with a passing interest into a dedicated viewer. I'd rather watch a neet then a boring loser who isn't even consistent.
>>30665683
ah i see vesper has chosen to not get 5k for the first time today
>>30665653Animator guy that make Mori Christmas short. Nux and Vshoujo too. Not that good.
>>30665686I think Aruran played it before
JWU How's vshojojp doing today?
no one is clipping subaru's P4G streams just like her Abyss stream
>>30664480You incompetent fucker they are not Hololive, they are Holostar, put some respect on their brand
>>30664273Thank god HoloRust I kneel, now they can burn Minecraft permission and migrate to this game
>>30665759
>>30665664Because as it turns out engaging with your gacha means they donate more.
Oop there it goes.
>>30663576Remember Foob also busy with ton of offline projects like recording for main channel, sponsorships and radio show with Marine, vocal training. A fucking monster in the company.
>>30665629>NOT are the 3 best performers in EN outside of Gura and Ina right now.Anon, most of the criticism is not about the performance when they stream, SPECIALLY Mumei and Fauna which carry hard because they really put an effort.It is about their constant non streaming, which really is old news because since Sana graduation announcement they are all in their best behaviour
>>30665817
PekoKaela English kino.
>>30665420Hello gen 5 schizo
Kaela meet Pekora in rust!
>>30665629Sorry, you're in the numbers thread. At best you can deflect it to Cover being stupid enough to hire people with too much irl commitments. Feel free to continue looking down on said Japanese NEETs who paved the way for Council to make good dosh though, I'm sure that must feel real good.
Come on Enna, hit that 5k
Kaela is just loved by blue women, she's getting clips out of Pekora trying to scam 1000 scrap out of her
>>30665884
>>30665824It's over...
>>30665954Noir would have gotten it in 30 minutes
>>30665824They are bailing out since it's just name + thank you
>>30665799Agree, fuck Minecraft. But Rust will be dead by season 4Hopefully they try Valheim next and make it their permanent sandbox game
>>30665757presumably you watch because you find someone entertaining not because of the amount of hours they stream
>>30665840Except in July Mumei was the only Council to make it in the top 4 for hours streamed with the others having illness and a concert while her hours are about to drop when college starts back up
>>30665757
>>30666007Yeah, SC readings are just a waste of a slot.
TIME TO REV IT UP, /#/ YOU WILL /BECOME/
>>30665954I can't believe I'm actually rooting for a nijinigger. She was like a 3view back on debut...
Noir should put the SCs on the screen
I don't know which one is more boring Kanata or Lamy
>>30666073To think we lost a comfy zatsudan for this
>>30666079elves are disgusting
>>30666019there's enough streamers out there that you can easily find someone who is both entertaining and also streams frequently
>>30666079
>>30665840>since Sana graduation announcement they are all in their best behaviourRetarded take
>>30666129your mother.
Oh wow, a 50% retention for SC reading.Probably first time buff.>>30665656Would it really? He can't read chat in these streams anyways.If it's a video/premiere, those who want to opt out can, and the paypigs can stay to answer the question, and he doesn't need to spend the entire time sitting there and reading, he can do it some other time and just upload the video.
>>30666149
>>30665664If you read supas you get more of them. See: Ina and Gura SCs vs Kiara or MoriI think it's fine, smart even, to read them early in your career but there's no problem tapering off once you have serious revenue streams. That's what Gura does, she doesn't really need the money so she just reads them when she's feeling like chatting. This is a good balance, because doing frequent SC readings really is pointless when you're clearing 7 figures in merch.Of course, Tempus will never get to that quite that level of revenue, so maybe that rule won't ever apply to them.
>>30666081That term refers to their fans anon, the vtubers themselves were always fineWell, except for the EN ones who got caught in that discord screenshot
>>30665643Well their workload is at minimum 3 pieces of content per week according to the EN audition guidelines. And those shitty recordings that they take the day off for, well those count towards their weekly minimum. They are gaming the system with 6 figure incomes on doing the bare minimum according to their contracts and I respect that.
lotta pepperonis in this thread
>>30666206M
>>30666197Yeah the big question is "would doing a video still leave him with time to do a stream"? if so, it's not a bad idea. If he wouldn't be able to replace the SC with another stream anyway, then he might as well do it live.
>>30666225Nah, fuck Enna
>>30665478>I'm curious now, do you have one of those with Gen 6? Just make the cutoff 8 months or something.Here it is, with the cutoff pushed to their debut date of HoloX
>>30666225Wasn't Enna the one who got caught with /vt/ in her browser?
>>30666141So you shouldn't watch your favourite streamers if they don't stream daily? Like where do you people come from or how do you even get into this mindset
>meet Pekora>+800 viewers
>>30666079AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM BECOMING
>>30666073It depends how it's handled, like Watame's
>>30666293No that's Reimu
>>30666267ahh,
>>30666273
>>30666160It might be a coincidence but it is undeniable that even Kronii is doing better in August than she was in July and before
>>30666328I see, i keep forgetting that she exists
>>30666308anon you're on /vt/ most of the posters here don't watch streams and just come here to anti a streamer they've never watched >>30666322Watame is special because she has a literal cult
>>30666316
>>30666322Watame is the exception anon, watamates could watch anything Watame related, even a trench digging stream
>>30666337
>>30666293I would assume most EN vtubers come here, it's the largest source of English-language vtuber discussion. It's no different than Pekora having 5ch in her bookmarks
>>30666308if my favourite streamer doesn't stream frequently and disappears for weeks at a time some other streamer who's as entertaining and streams all the time will eventually become my new favourite streamer, nothing wrong with that.
>>30666355Yea because she finally got her own place didn't she?
>>30666392
>>30666399
>>30665789That kind of thing is something some autist goes back over later to make compilations.
>>30666007No reason to watch it unless you specifically donated, since there will be no tangents or interactivity. I think this style of pre-recorded SC reading is not a great idea. It's only good if you absolutely want nothing more than to get it out of the way but aren't prepared to pull the trigger on going full Ina. I would say for as little value as this has, it would be better not to read them at all and save yourself however many hours you put into mechanically reading out names.
>>30666424>5chIt doesn't have that big of a stigma like 4chan.
Ty. Hilariously this pushes more EN into the bottom but expected I guess with all of Gen 6 in the top half. I wonder what happened to Laplus for her to stop streaming as much recently she was doing fine before, hope she picks back up again.
>>30666457
>>30666466
>>30666511Oops forgot to quote >>30666290
>>30666475Do a mix of zatsudan with SC. Watch how Watame is handling it
>>30666398uh I think watamates would actually enjoy a trench digging watchalong given their unique backgrounds
>>30666521
>>30666508She was still somewhat embarrassed to have people find out she was reading the holo threadsI also think most people who'd recognise /vt/ in someone's bookmarks/history would know it's not /pol/
wtf since when nipples allowed ? not that im complaining tho
>>30666585...yeah, that's the joke
>>30666398God I wish she would do that.
>>30666589
>>30666523I SHALL NOT BE STOPPED, /#/ WILL /BECOME/
>>30666572Yeah and like...half of Watame's career is just reading SCs. Same with Kiara. It's fine if you want to spend hours doing that, and it will increase your SC income quite a bit, but a lot of people simply don't want to spend their time like that.
>>30666256>They are gaming the system with 6 figure incomes on doing the bare minimum according to their contracts and I respect that.Reminds me of Coco "gaming the system" by vaguely asking for permission do to something and doing something much different from what was implied in the verbal agreement.That's a great way to get nips to add red tape into every request and make it impossible to have a relationship of trust between the parties.It is definitely not what you say, a "hustle" by the Council girls.You can clearly see that they had personal problems that prevented them from living to the full potential they had so far but, if it was a hustle, nips wouldn't be offended or insulted.Nips, faced with that, would just wait them out for one year and then amend their contract renovation with a clause to deny them the chance to repeat that and give them a >take or leavechance to stop doing that.In that hypothetical situation, the girls willing to stop doing that would abide, the other ones would graduate amicably near the end of their year of contract
>>30666398Because Watame can make anything entertaining
>>30666656
>>30666657
>>30666572He'd have to do a 6 hour stream to do that properly. It's just not worth it.
>>30664946>Gura streaming on fridaysrumao
>>30666362Everyone does, apparently she went on a trip and nobody really noticed and she barely got 1k for her return stream.
>>30666678I would disagree, but I don't want to invoke Watamage curse
>>30666602They aren't, but this thread both doesn't report enough and isn't visited by jannies/meidos every often.I mean ffs, we had a thread that had multiple towa r18 images and it actually managed to fucking archive with pretty much all of them.
>>30666602They're not
>>30666667>Sana graduated>The rest of the girls started streaming a lot more
>>30666398I watched Fubuki dig a hole without talking for 2.5 hours, you bet I'd do the same for Watame
>>30666713EAT SHIT SNITCHES
>>30666667>In that hypothetical situation, the girls willing to stop doing that would abide, the other ones would graduate amicably near the end of their year of contractSee: Sana
>>30666454Definitely. That's also the reason she's doing ASMR now>>30666511>>30666565One of the big reasons Council got the criticism they did is because HoloX except Laplus are "go getters" and took the task of relieving their senpais very seriouslyAnd the one that didn't (Laplus) got the same type of criticism thrown at Council direction
>>30665132>>30665629I guess this post is proof that Council did expand EN because we have people who oshi them hard enough to make posts like these kekDude I love them too but just take a step back for a minute and calm down.
>>30666666The thing is that Watame doesn't spend all the time reading SC. Her SC reading streams are first 1h of pure zatsu, followed by 20% SC + 80% zatsu + toilet break + snack review. She goes on a tangent all the time and needs the chat to remind her to go back to reading the SC
>>30666711
>>30666789
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT STOP POSTING NIPPLES IM AT WORK YOU HORNY FUCK
>>30666837
listening to this sc reading is like playing gacha. Sometimes you get more talking, but most of the time is a shit pull.
>>30666828What percentage is spent crying?
BASED IP REFRESHER ANONKEEP UP WITH THE GOOD POSTS
>>30666854
>Niji got gold>Thread just deadass /become/ anywayNijifags, you guys fucking sucks even when you win
>>30666758It's not the ADHD zoomer screaming type of entertainmentBtw, who's your oshi?
>>30666666In addition to what the other anon said, at least 2/3rds of her content is still gaming/singing. People just meme about her SC readings and there are too many threadreaders.
Something is wrong with me. I can't get hard seeing Lamy nipples and pussy
>>30666886
Don't browse 4chan at work retard, keep working you corpo slave
>>30666941You might be gay
>>30666887This type of SC reading used to be the standard for JP as well. Haachama (when she did long SC streams) was like that> Haaton san AigaTOUU> ESL san arigathanks!> Haaton 2 san ArigaTOOU> ESL san 2 arigathanks!People reading SC going on tangents and making it a zatsu is something more or less recent and unusual
>>30666888Go back to /jp/ we respect the mage's power here.
>>30666945
>https://twitter.com/rkrmz0n/status/1557741837708050433>23k likesBut why?
>>30666759Pretty sure jannies have abandoned this thread because the amount of bait and retardation going on here is impossible to moderate without mass bans.But they'll still come in here sometimes to remove lewds. Fucking narcs.>>30666913Yukimin are all pent up after /become/ got permabanned from this board
>>30666959
>>30666941Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Why don't we just name this the Hololive Numbers Thread and have nothing but Hololive in the tally? Since no one will talk about or celebrate Koshien's record number and just post Lamy anyway.
>>30667007
>>30666980Unironically thanks Kiara for thatPeople turns into her SC not because she reads them but because she will spend like 20 mins talking about whatever not even related to the SC
>>30667022I WILL NOT STAY DOWN, YOU WILL /BECOME/
>>30667006Cute and funny implications?
>>30666977I would guess he just finished masturbating or something. At least that's how it is with me
>>30666913Point out the lewd pics you posted celebrating koshien gold, go ahead
>>30667044
>>30667044Well, you can start talking about Koshien - tell us about it.
>>30667044No one is stopping you from posting Koshien lewds you lazy bum
>>30666639how new?
>>30667019>/become/ got permabanned from this boardSay again?
>>30667083
>>30667075
>>30667078>Unironically thanks Kiara for thatNah, as >>30666828 mentions, Watame does it like that too and for a long time.
>>30667044...noone's stopping anyone from posting Sasaki or Lize lewds but noone's doing it for the last 2 threads
>>30667044There is no Niji fans in this thread anyway, just Holo antis
>>30667086but that's just Towa with pink hair...
>>30664273>>30664393ain't it's 6 holo and 6 niji?
>>30667078>Unironically thanks Kiara for thatAre you fucking serious mythfag? JPs have been doing that way before the chicken debuted
>>30667044We ask you fuckers to post about your streams and you cope about "UHHHHH WE DO IT IN OUR GENERAL" as if that was ever a rule. You get what you put in anon.
When was Fauna supposed to come back? Do we really not have anything to watch or talk about until like 5 hours from now?
>>30667153Wamy's waiting, what are you waiting for? /become/ one
>>30667006I hate it and I hate twitter. Fucking hardly anyone in the replies even realizes its a Towa edit
>>30667044you sure are grumpy, friend. why don't you talk about what happened in the koshien stream, then?
>>30667019>Yukimin are all pent up after /become/ got permabanned from this board>>30667149>Say again?New batch of jannies exiled most of the "specialty" threads like /meat/, /ringo/ and /become/ too.
>>30667078kys
>>30667156
>>30667162no
>>30667078Kiara's SC readings are where you get all the juicy rrats about EN management these days. Cannot think of an EN chuuba who has created more /vt/ drama in her SC reading sessions than Kiara.
>>30667212Me and Wamy /become/ one
>>30664393holo: 6niji: 6retard. we should ban nijiniggers from this thread, really
>2700Man what the fuck how is he gaining viewers
I can't believe we lost a Zatsu stream for this SC reading Nowa-bros...
>>30666908COME HERE LAMYCHAN LET ME TASTE YOU
>>30667278The power of old man's autismOr they are just that bored
>>30667044Almost like NijiJP fags don't come here and it's shitposters. Wow.
>>30667267
>>30666977I'm not.I'm hard as rock if that's Kanata lewd
>>30667006CUNNY I KNEEL
>>30667285
>>30667256Give Vesper time. 2 weeks into his career and he already has a tendency to talk straight up about management stuff, and behind the scenes stuff with his genmates. Wait until he forgets and discloses some conversation he had with Kronii or Ina.
>>30667303its a zatsu though with some sc reading. Nowa goes on weird tangents that takes forever to end
Did Nowa Z how the fuck is he at 2.9k
>>30667162Yes, don't get fooled by the fake tally.
>>30667336Wamy and me
>>30667142One map art wasn't enough. You don't understand the need deep in my bones.
New Mori MV next week and the album will have a self animated video.
>>30667356
>>30667391Yeah he's going down so Z>>30667377MY UNCLE NOWA WOULD NEVER TALK TO A WOMAN, HE WILL BECOME A WIZARD SOON
>>30667391Yeah that's a Z
>vespers superchat goes blow for blow with axel/regis game streamsneat
>>30667395kusa I'm running out of loods
>>30667446>>30667444>>30667391holobots?
>>30667044Can we please? I've been calling for the banning of any Nijisanji discussion in here for a while. The threads would become so much better.
>>30667415
>>30667466Use the time while you are banned to find more.
>>30667466Come on
Vesper got a Z
>>30667486
>>30667405will fucking flop like camouflage unless she starts pulling some buff streams>she didnt even finish va11 hall-a todayand she is in a fucking hotel
>>30667385>its a zatsu though with some sc readinggod I wish.
Mori saw that she had 56% Japanese and 36% Female, was surprised because she knew she had a big Japanese fanbase, then she realised Usseewa was still being counted as her song.
>>30667525Archive already you son of a bitch
>>30667448>pre-recorded SC reading
nahone
>>30667546
>>30667596The fuck kind of sex you be having to sweat a river?
>>30667193There's a bunch of streams on right now but no frames up for the afternoon. "Mumei's Memory Juggling" should be happening today but no frame up yet sk it might be happening around then.
Oh he's gonna reach that /#/fag SC soon.Probably just gonna "thank you" and move on though.
>>30667616
>>30667628Lamy is melting. Global warming.
>>30667611Nijilocusts?Nijilocusts
TOP FUCKING KEK>A LITERAL NIJIBRONYHere is the title and text>I would like to know>if the talents are allowed to share or at least tell everyone especially managers and staffs to say what their genders/sexual orientations are or is that not allowed in any way? >I think the reason its not discussed even in the communiy is maybe to protect the talents' privacy but thats my assumption. >Although I'm going to say its impossible to not have one of any branches to at least have an identity.Nijibronies will DEFEND THIS!
>>30667628Sex so hard that you melt a snow elf
Bruh 2.5K niggaz watching Nowa oji reading usernames you can't make this shit up
>>30667516HAHAHAHA YOU WISH FAGGOT, YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME DOWN COPPERSFUCK YOU SNITCHING NIJINIGGERSI'LL ABAYO MYSELF, NOW /BECOME/
What discussion do people expect of Koshien numbers anyway>Wow, the annual baseball game that always gets big numbers got big numbers again>They sure did play baseball>Did you know water is wet?
>>30667656What was the guy's name?
>>30667694>say what their genders/sexual orientations are or is that not allowed in any way?Has this dude been living under a fucking rock?
>>30667694>trying to spread gendershit to HololiveMake the pain go away.
Suisei will appear on TV on August 19th. https://twitter.com/BUZZRHYTHM_NTV/status/1558146460516257792
>>30667739>nipple hairew
If Nowa finishes at the hour and Mori and IRyS are still streaming it would be another good test case for box overlap
WHO WOULD WIN?!>MOST POWERFUL WESTERN GIRLS IN THE #1 VTUBER COMPANY IN JAPAN>humble ojisan reading names out of a listTHE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE YOU!
>>30667723Bots
>>30667791God damn you for pointing that out
Oh some of the Luxiem audience is also SCing him it seems.
>>30667793He said 2-3 hours stream iirc
>>30665954>Kiara is below the Enna line nowMemes became reality.
>>30667656Am i missing something or are people just shitposting about this superchat? Magni got a boost from containment breachers ffs
>>30667803Don't make me post Enna, faggot.
>>30667818
>>30667803Even combining doesn't put them above his post Z numbers rumao>>30667842it was a dumb chat but people here are massively overreacting (as always)
>>30667755 (me)I missed that he was asking that question about hololive
bored anons fishing some (you)s.
DWARVES MENTION
>>30667904here you go
>starts speaking dwarvishIS HE TALLY ANON?????
>>30667887
kek
>>30667755Newfags and EN fans are not going to know about things like Marine calling out Miko for using obscure lesbian slang or Noel and Flare exchanging very expensive engagement rings
>>30667656If the SC suy's name has Ameri or similar, it was already read.
>>30667950FLARE, WATCH OUT
>>30667824I don't know how to feel about this. It's good for him to have viewers and money, from any sources, but I cannot help but feel disgusted to my core and wish this sort of thing never occurred.
rumao he Z'd again
>>30667954
>>30667990Just look at /mans/ during downtime and you will see that they are trying to weasel in.
>>30667044watched it live with shitty N3 but got filtered hard because I know nothing about baseball and the game. It's something only Japanese love to watch.
>>30667044Why do you guys want this thread's approval? I thought you tards hated usfeeling's mutual btw
I think its pretty obvious YAGOO is botting Tempus and they're actual 3 views.
>>30667879Post her anyway, I need some new Enna art and reaction images
>>30667990>>30668022Tempus can fix them!
>>30667516Just to let you know, I'm still here faggotI AM YOU ANON
>>30668015
>>30668022Yeah there are some nasty fujos in /mans/, also a lot of uptight gatekeeping stars fags. it's not Niji En thread level though.
>>30668075
>>30668046Actually I'm the only Tempus viewer and everyone else is a bot.
>>30667746Jaypee something somethingdon't worry he got ignored
>>30668113>gatekeeping stars fagsGood
>>30668140
How does is called?
PPFFTT
>>30667824Why do people put that shit in their YouTube nameIt's breaking the very common rule about not bringing up other vtubers unprompted every time you send a superchat or say anything
>>30668113Starsfag have a good reason to gatekeep though, keeping the beggars out
>>30668210That's unironically bots being culled.
>>30668206
Why would he leave SC on for this stream Rumao
>>30668216
>>30668113I'd rather have gatekeeping than endless homosexual tier posts of wanting to peg the bros while being choked out fujo garbage
>>30668263
Is it just me, or is there a uptick of homobeggars across the social medias around this time?
>>30668297the fujos in /mans/ tend to spoiler their hornyposts at least, so that's something.
>ignored
>>30668230attention whoring.oshimarks exist for a reason but these tards can't be satisfied with just that.
>>30668321
>>30668216It's nice to see the more talented and entertaining girls incline while leaving the failures and the hard-pandering faggots behind.
>>30668361Will people stop crying about it now?
>>30667694There's a reason they are given a character to play as to avoid this issue.
>>30668297Stars fujos tend to keep their lewds out of reach of Stars themselves so its somewhat better than Nijis fujos
>>30668326cause kids nowadays are faggots and see men interacting with other men as gay.
>>30668326Euro and American hours and they're the biggest beggars
>>30668361as he should becontainment breakers need to be euthanized
>>30668398I mean this particular hour of the day
Why drawfags here want to explain to me why artists use multiple layers when they draw? Why can't they do it all on 1 layer?
Please just end my suffering and release EN 3 already, Cover. There's a huge demand of it, yet you're no supplying it... 8 months is enough for a gen to reach the maturity point, not 1 year.... What you need to do is,>Stream constantly for one month after debut>Stream 6 times a week in 3 months>Regular schedule of streaming 5 times a weekAfter that, you can do whatever the fuck you want
>>30668371
>>30668406Nice deflection 3rd shit call center pagpag eater
>>30668157That 15k in supas? All me.
>>30668361our most influential thread status…
>>30668361If his name was not read, then it probably means Nowa is /here/ or his manager culled the list.
>>30668445
>>30668375>nijiEN>talented>entertaining
>>30668439Mortuary assistant for debut week would honestly be game changer. Take the chance, Cover.
>>30668486Nowa mentioned reading through the entire list before stream so he probably did it himself
>>30668431you can make outlines, separate sections and erase mistakes easier without fucking up everything if you did it in one layer
Right some actual Niji number question cause I was curiousWhat was Kuzuha strongest non-Koshien month? Anyone keep track of that?
>>30667780It's why omegatroon is a mistake
>>30668525It's all relative anon, or would you really say that Nina and Reimu are better than Enna?
>>30668499
>>30668486name was read. only got a generic "thank you" he is aware at least
>>30668431holy fuck even thinking about that gave me a shudder.layers are the bread and butter of digital drawing, you can have multiple outlines in different layers, hide layers to see how the art looks without them for more accuracy, allows you to correct mistakes much more easily and do seamless coloring etc. etc.Some of the more prolific artfags may be single layer folks (those used to pen and paper drawing) but digitally there's absolutely no reason not to use layers, and it's nightmarish to even imagine creating professional art piece without fucking layers in a short amount of time.
>>30668554The month he collabed with that male idol probably, if you mean overall
>>30668554I don't have the data but my hunch is it lines up with how interesting the current Apex season isHe still gets decent numbers for Valorant but nowhere near as high, and League is ass
>>30668578
>>30668216>>30668291ignored curious
>>30668439There clearly isn't a high demand if they still haven't debuted yet.
>>30668431Not even a drawfag but using multiple layers makes it easy to hide and combine parts and also if you fuck up it's only on 1 layer
>>30668431So I can easily control which part of the drawing I am editing. Like if I want to fix the linearts but don't want to fucking erase the colors by accident when I do it
ok what constitues a fujo? im trying to understand whas the cutting point to make a fujo? is it any woman watching? if a woman is watching is she automatically a fujo or does she need to masturbate as well> or thing sexually about them>
>>30668645This. Cover knows that any EN3 would be a dud. Council flopped hard and EN3 would be even worse than them.
>>30668431Think about it as different components of a machine
>>30668640
>>30668672I think fujos ship two males.
Why is Maria camping at 7.30pm just slot for next stream? I thought she'd be streaming only one time for that zatsu.
WTF
>>30668672Fujo is for women what coomer is for men.
>>30668711
>>30668291>>30668643It doesn't match the N pattern. This has happened in a lot of streams, usually because the numbers actually inclined enough during the Z to offset the part where it goes down
>>30668439There is no demand for EN3 because Hololive EN's viewership is already completely stagnant. Just look at their sub growth, they haven't attracted new fans for a while now. Tempus flopped pretty hard too, so I wouldn't be surprised if Stars EN 2 never happens
>>30667694Has it always been like this in r/hololive and people just began to point it out or are nijiniggers on some extra strong spree of shilling? If so, why now of all times, when their branch is actually pulling its weight in (kek) minchair and popularity?
>>30668672>>30668733Fujo is one of those terms that used to be inherently negative but I think is being a bit less negative now. In the past Fujo meant something "Crazy otaku women who ship aggressively and will attack anyone with different ships". For Vtubers they're basically female unicorns.
>>30668672Retards will call any woman a fujo but fujos are specifically girls that get off to the idea on male+male interaction and like imagining them fuckingIf the girl herself wants to fuck the dude like with BFE she's a yumejoOtherwise it's a normal ass girl but those types don't watch chuubas
>Tempiss are 2k shitters nowI guess there's always Stars EN3.
>>30668291not a z. I think the second sharp increase is when Peko met her.
>>30668439Not even Tempus fits your standard and they stream frequently enough. Remember the way we count streams fucks over a lot of the Holo girls when they Collab without a pov. Tempus falls prey to this too
>>30668762
>>30668817Yes, those spikes were because of interactions with other members
>>30668818Cover will never debut another EN vtuber. Anykara cornered the market.
Is NijiEN unironically watching Koshien despite how unentertaining the game is? I could sit through a two hour Holofest concert at 4am in the morning because it'd be entertaining, but sitting through 5 hours of boring base games is something else.
>>30668831
>>30668818Tempus flopped hard. Cover won't invest in another Stars EN gen
>>30668857>Anykara cornered the CN market.ftfy
>>30668862why would you want to watch soulless idolshit instead of a kino baseball stream?
>>30667879Go ahead ,embarrass yourself with your midget numbers and the>well she used to be even MORE of a midgetCope that comes with them
>>30668857>>30668897I can understand no EN3 since Council flopped hard but Stars is Yagoos pet project. He would debut StarsEN2 even if they were all 3 views.
>>30668886
>>30668910Baseball is just American Idoru
>>30668907No. They cornered the English speaking market, including America and Canada. Just compare CRX to Otakuthon or Anime Impulse. Hololive has no mindshare in the west any more.
Falseflagger collecting (You)s again.
Discordniggers...
>>30668950
Maria will probably be the next Niji girl to incline to 4-5k like Pomu, Selen, and Enna before her when Wave 7 drops.
>>30669021
I'm so tired of reading the same insane nijinigger shit I just wonder why they haven't automated their cope. Make a script niggers, you don't post anything different anyway
Myth -- completely fell off. Only two are 10k+ streamers, with Gura being the only consistent oneCouncil -- failures. Couldn't capture a new market, already had a graduation, less subs than livers who debuted after themTempus -- flops. Didn't have the same breakout success as Luxiem despite being the first male Holo genIf you're cover, why would you ever invest in EN? The market is dried up, and Nijisanji has already taken the scraps of it
>>30668969>mindshareHere's your final (you) from me
>>30668672technical meaning is "female that ships two males and reads a lot of BL" but most people /here/ use it as a catch all term for female otaku (the greasy kind).
>>30668431Anon, you're basically asking the question...."Why would I intentionally gimp myself so that if I make a SINGLE mistake I either have to start over or redo very large swaths of my drawing?"Unless you're doing some sort of challenge, there's no reason not to use multiple layers for better control (so you can do outlines on one layer, shading on another, color, etc). and if something doesn't look right, you can just edit stuff on a layer instead of having to redo EVERYTHING that's in the way.
Holobronies will memoryhole the empty chairs at all of the CRX panels
Don't bite
usually the holofags falseflagging as nijiniggers fuck off about an hour ago, did something happen why theyre still here.
>>30668818Dude's getting 2.5k for a fucking SC reading.Some of Roboco's NORMAL streams are below that number.
I don't mind discussing Niji but some of these baits are just rancid
>Total NijiEN peaks added up before Koshien started yesterday - 17,497>Gura playing guerilla Rust - 23,090
Nice try shitposter-kun
All this Lamy spam made me think. Lamy isn't that popular outside of JP, right? Same with all of Gen 4 5 and 6 except for Koyori. Is there a reason for that?
>>30661000searched vspo on warosu to see what fuckers who don't watch streams talk about and of course it's you numberfags yui is from neoporte, dumbass.
The N filter cannot handle the Zs kek. Hey vrabi, your N filter needs version 2.4.
>>30668910Because I am not into excel sheet
Mori can't even hit 4k anymore... holy shit the recline is real
>>30669111it's afraid.jpeg
>>30668431Easier to fix mistakes.
>>30669173When you start making comparisons to fucking Roboco you already lost the argument.
>>30669231What I be afraid of? I'm just stating the obvious. Hololive had a huge lead in the EN market, then blew it with Hope + Council + Tempus. Now they're on equal footing with Nijisanji
>>30668862It's a different mindset. I mentioned it during the koushien thread but it's like watching a hype sports broadcast. You tune in, see two teams, pick one and cheer for them for about 2 hours.More invested folks will watch the entire tournament and have favorites etc. and watch the storylines with great interest.End result for both types of viewers is that they usually fuck off and watch some other show once the tournament ends.
>>30669215VSPO(Neoporte)
I smell the fingernail polish from discord trannies on these comments
>>30669276>What I be afraid of?roru
I feel like neo trying to dodge all these bait bullets
>>30669109capcha too strong pls andastd
>>30669181What's funny is that Gura beat them even without the>ILLEGAL PEKORA IMPROMPTU APPEARANCE
>>30669276>Now they're on equal footing with Nijisanjiyou're giving them too much credit. Elira can go toe-to-toe with hololive EN's heaviest hitter now.
>>30669215its okay sometimes people post nose and people only ever responde "nose..." thats vspos legacy outside of the vspo thread.
>>30666062Did Mumei say something like changing another degree or study field?
You guys expected me to believe any of your market evaluation when ID3 suddenly prove that ID is not yet a dead market like you guys always said
OF COURSE! It's friday! SEA is on overtime
>>30669278But it's baseball man. Volleyball and Basketball is much more interesting to see. If there's still 200k people watching tomorrow, maybe exceeding 230k even when there's a Comiket going around if the weather is fine, I'm calling bullshit. Who spends summer at home watching online baseball?
I am starting to think that these mindshare posters are Riku's paid trolls. I mean, what they are doing looks like it is part of their mindshare expansion campaign.
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>>30669401Took you that long huh? Btw, n00mbur
>>30669387Hololive is dead in the water if they focus only on America. Nijisanji owns all of Asia and they are making a lot of headway into the US now too. Hololive EN has less than a year left at this rate.
>>30669387Anon, this is a horse race and eunuch general thread not /market analysis/ thread
>>30669387Nothing that shown ID is not a dead market. Kobo is already falling off even after all her botted sub growth.
>>30669469>Hololive EN has less than a year leftYeah, until EN3.
>>30669175I can talk about some NijiJP like Kanae because I watched his Tower of Fantasy but NijiENfags are so annoying so I refrain talking about Niji here.
>>30669207What exactly do you think she does that would appeal to EOPs? You basically need to be LE WACKY or xD or musically talented to be popular with EOPs
>>30669387HoloID has always dominated ID anyway, you can't make an argument there. It's not a dead market if there's 1k+ watching.
>>30669417Unironically I think these are the viewers who stuck around since when Koshien was still something everyone can join. They watch it because they well, got used to watching it on summer, they don't care that it's Niji-only nowIt's something that happen
>>30669401>SeaAdmit it, half the garbage we're being flooded with is coming from Eurosharts.
>tries to instigate a fanbase war in global>gets humiliated by IRyStocrats>runs back to /#/ and throws stale baitthis is why China should nuke the philippinoes already
>>30663769Really? Towa streams sometimes in the early evening but that not a this year thing, she always did that. She sometimes shared rushia's slot. She also streams a lot at 21jst or 22jst too tho. The rust overlaps are killing her ccv.
>>30669215to be fair that was a last minute entry since the show was talked about 1-2 mins before I posted it.thanks anyway, I'll correct it for tomorrow.
>>30669502EN3 won't save them. Hololive can't bring in new viewers like Nijisanji can. A new wave will only serve to stretch the viewerbase even thinner than it is right now. HoloEN will be 3k shitters if EN3 debuts.
Stop biting the bait
>>30669453I should've fucking known, my tracking of the days have been muddied due to work, but I smelled those greasy pagpag scent from the comments
What if EN3 was an entirely European gen
>>30669417Dude some people like baseball. It's basically the national sport of japan and they didn't even invent it
>>30669611EN 3 is for NA time only. If they wanted EU, they would've debuted an EU gen streaming at their primetime.
>>30669387ID was different. It was an untapped market that no one knew how to really break. It took an insane amount of luck for Kobo to go viral and succeed like she didEN is already saturated to hell. Besides big corpos like Niji, Vshojo, and Holo, there are dozens of smaller corpos and thousands of indies. Each new gen/wavefrom Holo and Niji produces talents who get less ccv than their formers. At least in this regard, Niji still has momentum. Hololive has literally zero momentum in EN. Their sub growth is glacial. Only a total of 40k people watched the whole Council collab. 58k people watched Ike's 700k karaoke. Nijisanji still has more viewers to pull from China because vtubing is relatively new over there. Hololive on the other hand has to pursue NA and SEA, but it's very clear as evidenced by Tempus' poor numbers that any new debuts won't get nearly the same level of viewership as Myth or Council
I'm a jp nijifag, but I don't really watch EN other than some clip, the boys and girls are fine but not my taste.Number is such a shit thread, but i came here to say something.I fucking hate this ren piece of shit. Stupid faggot who can't even read the atmosphere nor between the lines and forcely insert himself into other people's life. This is beyond cringe, why do they accept this guy instead of using characters like Luca, Mysta, and Vox as reference?
>>30669530>tries to instigate a fanbase war in globalThat's like throwing rocks down a quarry anon
>>30669525You ain't fooling me SEA negrito! The pagpag scent and fingernail polish are whafting through the thread
>>30668801It's the other way around, this behaviour was accepted until JunsGang started to report and downvote it, people attempting it threw a shitfit and the rest of the unaffiliated lads started to push their shit in even harderFun thing? "Collab beggar" is becoming a common expression there>thanks JunsGang?
>>30667193Watame is eating.
>>30669611Euros are persona non grata in Hololive. En3 will be 5 asian girls.
>>30669530those blokes are owned by China so why would they nuke their kind
>>30669658It's a good thing we're on the same page. Nobody likes Ren.