/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

get used to niji OPs from now on holokeks

why are nijifags so butthurt? didnt they win today?

>>30659838
>>30659812
It's.... A premiere anontachi. Pekora truly has no rival anymore, how sad.

Riku's strat really irks me.

Koyori hate watcher, please forgive her. She is betraying Miko and selling her body to the numbers rabbit...

>>30660021(Me)
Not a premiere*

>>30659988
sure nijifag, its your win today.
just do lewdpost like holofags does and stop the fucking seethe blogpost.

>>30660021
The manga she's reading is actually pretty good. I had to binge watch it for a two days.

>>30660021
she ate all salome's tourists lmao

>>30659669
>They are not getting 20k+ ccv per stream
TOP KEK, WTF? Wanna know an amusing piece of statistics

Right now, between Holostats, Mado, vstats and vrabi there are
>100323 unique streams
tracked between them.

Wanna know how many are over 20k?
>5129
Wanna know how many are *not* from HoloJP and HoloEN?
>1041
Wanna know how many are by boy vtubers?
>670
Wanna know how many are by boy vtubers not from NIjisanji (or Tempus)?
>87

20k is a TERRIBLY HIGH bar to clear for ANY vtuber in the whole field, specially for boys, specially for boys not in Nijisanji
Might as well put the bar of success in the 100k range because it wouldn't make that much difference for boy vtubers

>>30660041
It works. Riku is one of the 50 richest men in Japan now.

>>30660054
i'm actually having fun now with this, it's better than running around aimlessly

>>30659988
retard-kun i even made a vox op after he won gold and nobody complained, stop being dumb please i'm begging you

Post Saku please. She can't get good numbers herself so August is probably the only time I can see her pics.

>>30660098
You make him sound like a money-hoarding scum.

>>30659884
Salome was the better solo debut still. IRyS wishes she can get her numbers. IRyS grew fast and started to stagnate at 700k whereas Salome grew fast, has good ccv, and is over a million subs, something IRyS wont see in her foreseeable future.

9.4K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>30659988
Win or lose nijikek always talk hololive..why?

>>30660114
Sorry anon Im in charge of Lamy lewds today

>>30660114
fuck you post lain
furry fags should kill themselves
fat thigh bodyguards lewds only

>>30660019
They care more about the cripple win

>>30660170
Sad that Anycolor just turn Salome into a billboard for their ads. If they let her collab with other interesting niji members they might actually create a real box.

>>30660170
IRyS might hit 1M by her next anniversary if she's lucky

>>30660021
>>30660068
She's actually slacking, 24 minutes in and she hasn't gone to the part where it actually matters in the novel. Can't she like, instead of reading it, summarize the first 30 chapters in a premiere? Like, it's about a guy who learns how to fight through YT tutorials and is now making money through YT by showing him fight against bullies or bigger guys than him. How to beat a kickboxer, how to beat a professional boxer, how to beat an MMA fighter in a street fight.

Watching the subs growth from the last days I can confidently say:
Marine hit the jackpot thanks to the power of sex
Pekora also speeded up and I think it's thanks to the power of EOPs, wouldn't be surprised if she gains another 10k within the next 2 days thanks to her Rust interactions and clips
Roboco got a small buff just by interacting with Gura for 30 seconds
Fubuki would
permanently be in the fucking top 3 Vtubers in the world if she wanted to

>>30660021
What happened to her? niji bots leave her after 1m subs?

>>30660198
I am talking about Saku not Kuroi Shiba or Debi.

What the state /#/ - Numbers has become:
>Nijis larping as Holos
>holos larping as nijis
>Holos and nijis both making shitposts that benefits no one, not even funny
>quality of the general is down
>nijis making long ass posts that gets massive amounts of (you)
>bait being spread far and wide and being bitten by fools
>even when nijis win, lewds barely gets posted and they act mad and salty

Where did it all go wrong?

for lewdposting purposes here is everyone involved in today's gold stream, lize's team won so i'll personally be posting them but anyone here qualifies for lewdspam

This thread has an fucking hate boner against fucking elves for some weird reason. If any other race got 70k this thread would be licking their feet and celebrating but since it's elves you fuckers act like it's not like an big deal. This shit is huge and it puts an stop to dwarf narrative that elves was declining when in fact their inclining every year. Let's us not also forget that elves are flying their streamers out to japan for elf fest which multiple of them confirm yet dwarves can't afford to do the same.

Don't forget the bias in treatment in dwarf kingdom vs everyone else. Instead of talking about Lamy like they do all big streams they rather talk about another race that failed to reach 10k. People would rather talk about how an member of the dward race that got 2k vs elves member inclining and getting 5k regular and are approaching dwarf members ccv wise. They also act like dwarfs have some original idea when they copied the ideas from fucking Flare in the first place the only reason why dwarf kingdom is still here today is due to elves. There also the time where elves made elf fes an events for all thing elves next year guess who decides to hold dwarf fes. I like the dwarf kingdom but it is the idea of keeping up with joneses.

>>30660276
???
Wanting panda's lewd makes you a furry, anon. It's not rocket science.

>boost koshien with all our viewfarms
>but sire, the salome numbers...
>JUST DO IT!!!

>>30660139
He literally said in an interview that he started Nijisanji to quickly make money on a trend and he didn't see it lasting a long time
It was their COO Iwanaga who had the passion and drive and he got poached by Vshojo

Salome, your 10k floor...

>>30660170
Salome was very obviously botted for a long time.
Irys's Youtube subs slowed with everyone else in Holo because Youtube started doing daily sub culls.

>>30660285
luxiem.

>>30660262
bot money all goes to koshien for the time being please understand

Why niji dont play rust? its a good game to boost number for unpopular livers. are they only care popular livers?

>>30660253
Marine can legit be the second most subbed vtuber.

>>30660285
nijien existed

>>30660285
/#/ took one too many bait and both niji and holo fans seems to think that the all out war should be happening in here instead of nijiEN and hlgg.

>>30660342
Okay, I kek'd.

>>30660341
we love elves here!

how do we save iluna?

>>30660350
Iwanaga. why you went to vshoujo

>>30660285
not rangebanning seaschizos

>>30660342
I would happily convert to furry and buy a fur suit if that is the case.

>>30660366
more like 10k ceiling now

>>30660285
Luxiem happened

/news/ roundup for 12-08-2022 (all times are in JST)
> From Yesterday : Korone officially announced as a guest for Okayu's SoloLive on 30th September (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000768.000030268.html).).
> Information about Hololive goods at C100 slowly being released (https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937).).
> Marine will be holding a VR Meet and Greet event on October 2nd and 9th (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1557924837473017856).).
> Nijisanji EN announces for male character auditions for their new "Gamers" group (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1557985233449910272).).
> Nijisanji Koshien Finals have started (https://youtu.be/aSgXwiEPjg0).).
> KSon will be holding a fan meeting event in Taiwan (https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1557985011235966976).).
> StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Cover (https://youtu.be/CNxHJN-fKSI).).
> Lamy held her 2nd Anniversary 3D SoloLive "Fleur" (https://youtu.be/2Qaek3gXDgg).). Also released a new original song with the same name (https://youtu.be/kU-KWiNpRmw).).
> AkiRose revealed her Swimsuit model (youtu.be/otGAFEyKd9Y). Also announced the launch of her original Beer in collaboration with Hansharo Beer (https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1558097315574910977).). She will also be participating in "AkibaYabai", an event celebrating JP subcultures (https://twitter.com/akibayabai2022/status/1558095503568515073).).
> Watame revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/-Mcigh-_vvg).).
> Nene revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/zHH_dKT56sg).).
> Choco revealed her Nurse outfit (https://youtu.be/irimNFUdNiA).).

Previous : >>30584431

Suisei and Yui are on NHK Radio for those who care.

prediction, Nijijp or nijien new wave debut next?

>>30660341
To show our love for elves, I shall be posting Wamy lewds today, we all shall /become/

>>30660285
Hey I'm doing my part for the lewdposting no matter which side wins. If you don't consider these to be enough I might as well not post lewds anymore.

>>30660506
News anon, Nene did not reveal her swimsuit

>>30660512
isn't that tomorrow?

>>30660512
And Sora too, wanker!

>>30660285
Flags would solve all of our problems

>>30660450
with wave 7 and gamers

>>30660019
They know Koshien isn't a real win, and they'll get stomped after the 15th

>>30660563
Now. They are singing Daybreak Frontline.

>>30660455
Anycolor had essentially put him in the banishment room, the project he was leading got canned in the runup to their IPO

>>30660566
>Sora
We don't talk about shitters here.

>>30660566
Ahhhh yuiiii.. why you went to neo porte.

Holy shit the manga is so boring, some more it is a long strip instead of normal format. No wonder she can't get 10k. Anycolor really killed Salome.

>>30660538
you are doing good work by yourself but that's the problem, it's only you.

Salome’s 10k floor just shattered…

>>30660561
fuck really? I couldn't scroll back and she had it on the thumbnail so I thought she had revealed it.

>>30660378
Some rrats from last night talked about a RUST server with Niji,Vshojo and some OfflineTV+ streamers

>>30660554
My POV

>>30660619
Kys

>>30660041 (me)
I do not like his kind of mindshare. Sure, it makes him rich but he treats his talents as expendable tools instead of being a essential building block of the Nijisanji brand. It is a bit of an AKB. Runts are treated as runts while big fishes gets more support. His strat is not really black but still.
But at least, there is some freedom, and you get a free rental of an avatar you can use in your free time. I can at least appreciate that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHqfzP3nV2c
Bets on if hes gonna read the /#/ SC?

>>30660619
Here sister, I know you want it.

>>30660739
Oh hey he's going to get 2k for this isn't he
Fuck superchat readings

>>30660739
He will respond with a WHO? or a O Rely and move on

>>30660600
suichan is singing? is this pre record or live?

>>30660633
she did it to herself, back when mito was still the top she said that she was free to choose if she will take a sponsorship or not, and if she doesn't take it the sponsorship will just be passed to someone else to has it. salome must be accepting literally anything thrown at her the moment they started taking offers for her.

>>30660739
huh, he still named it "Chatting", but I wonder how many less viewers he will get

>>30660737
>mindshare

10k streamer

>>30660807
I'm going to listen to him only because he can actually do zatsudans, and because the /#/ superchat.

>>30660729
Bloke that drew this needs more contact with live models, because that's definitely not how butts work.

>>30660737
Ichikara was an actual unironic black company in its early days anon, they admitted it themselves
They had dozens of interns working 16 hour days and sleeping under their desks

Pekomiko daughter...
Miko team in S1
Peko team in S2
S3????

10K DORYAAAAAA

I have to shave my beard now…

>9,999
dorya

>>30660883
Yes? He's unironically the 3rd highest ccv male vtuber behind Chinman and Kuzuha.

/news/ roundup for 12-08-2022 (all times are in JST)
> From Yesterday : Korone officially announced as a guest for Okayu's SoloLive on 30th September (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000768.000030268.html).).
> Information about Hololive goods at C100 slowly being released (https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937).).
> Marine will be holding a VR Meet and Greet event on October 2nd and 9th (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1557924837473017856).).
> Nijisanji EN announces for male character auditions for their new "Gamers" group (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1557985233449910272).).
> Nijisanji Koshien Finals have started (https://youtu.be/aSgXwiEPjg0).).
> KSon will be holding a fan meeting event in Taiwan (https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1557985011235966976).).
> StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Cover (https://youtu.be/CNxHJN-fKSI).).
> Lamy held her 2nd Anniversary 3D SoloLive "Fleur" (https://youtu.be/2Qaek3gXDgg).). Also released a new original song with the same name (https://youtu.be/kU-KWiNpRmw).).
> AkiRose revealed her Swimsuit model (youtu.be/otGAFEyKd9Y). Also announced the launch of her original Beer in collaboration with Hansharo Beer (https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1558097315574910977).). She will also be participating in "AkibaYabai", an event celebrating JP subcultures (https://twitter.com/akibayabai2022/status/1558095503568515073).).
> Watame revealed her Swimsuit model (https://youtu.be/-Mcigh-_vvg).).
> Choco revealed her Nurse outfit (https://youtu.be/irimNFUdNiA).).
> Suisei appeared as the Host and Sora + Hizuki Yui (VSPO) appeared as guests on NHK Radio's "VR:VTuber Radio" program (https://www.nhk.jp/p/vr-radio/rs/6N87LJL8ZM/).).

Previous : >>30584431

>>30660856
>back when mito was still the top
That was like ancient internet time right? Now it is not ichikara anymore but anycolor, so the terms for new livers might changed.

Out of top 20 today, there are only 8 nijis, in which 4 of them are koshien stream. It's kinda looks grim that even with koshien, they can't pass 10 streams inside top20, and without koshien, only 4 streams made it to top20.

and the punchline, nijien desperately need koshien to enter top20

>>30660856
Either that, or she's on a different contract more akin to a traditional voice actor, as some people speculated
Remember Nijisanji hasn't had auditions for a long time, and she didn't come from VTA, so she wasn't hired in the same way as everyone else

>>30660350
Vshojo Japan?

>>30660450
they can't be saved

>>30661000
Thanks as always /news/ anon

>>30660956
Did she get a funnel at around 15 minutes?

10K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>30660450
Dissolve the whole wave.

>>30661027
let them happy for this 3 days

>>30660983
Isn't Mito quite old already? She has been doing the JK shtick for like 4 year plus already right? Isn't it too embarrassing to keep up the act with her age? Sora already dropped the "JK" part long time ago.

>>30661075
Yes, he's running it.
They also hired a very experienced idol producer (lol)

>>30660567
Being able to differentiate between eurosharts and seasharts would certainly be nice.

>>30661021
it was only in 2021 that she was surpassed by kuzuha, and even then she was still the top female so she was still the top pick for sponsors that looked for girls

>>30660455
I honestly hope VShojo JP make some moves soon. They got so many big names in management and training, I can't imagine they'd just take KSon and Nazuna into twitch and just be satisfied with that.

>>30660956
>10k
Did they ran out of bots?

>>30661027
man... so this is the real power of niji without koshien.. looks pathetic

>>30661020
1M more

>>30661000
https://youtu.be/Wg6F-iSCwdk?t=1823
Roboco also revealed her 3D Swimsuit model anon

Where's my Lize lewds?
Post Lize lewds

>>30660912
My goodness.

>>30661027
>ame and flare out of all people beating the shit out of nijijp liver koshien watchalong

this is too sad

It is actually sad that I wanted Salome to have higher numbers now instead of lower. She has become the shadow of her former self in just a few months.

I was wondering why Omega was so sexy. He has the same mama as Lize.

>>30660807
I've formed a habit around his schedule kek, so I'd think he'll get around 3k at least.
Would be hilarious if he gets 5k though, would make him the first chuuba with no reduced numbers in supa reading.

>>30661027
these days are like christmas for them let them be

>>30661127
She doesn't really give a shit, she said that she will always and forever be a JK no matter what everybody tells her. Also there's nothing to be embarrassed anymore when the entire internet already knows her entire personal history.

>>30660739
Kek, his thumbnail game is on point

>>30661000
>StarsEN TEMPUS premiered their group Cover
wasn't it an original song?

>>30661027
AYYEEEE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE

>>30661195
Be mad at anycolor for completely mismanaging her

>>30661020
RUN FASTER AI

>>30661159
no one posted it in this thread... again...
haaa, I'll put it for tomorrow as usual...

>>30661027
>Elira top 10
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>30661213
Damn internet schizos are just too powerful to dig out everything about her.

Imagine if you showed this to /#/ from 2 months ago

>Gura's and Mori's songs reached 1 mil in 24 hours, several millions in a few weeks
>*crickets*
>my treasure box reached 5 mil in two weeks
>spammed everywhere on twitter, several seiyuu mentioned Marine, her dance is imitated all over the social media
I don't get it.

>>30661158
Check 3-4 threads ago
It's probably the other team's turn.

>>30661232
... well fuck, I have no excuse for this one.
Have a Lain as compensation.

>>30661027
should i give them pity views..?

>>30661000
Thank you news anon

>>30660897
If he skips it, it could be a proof that he is /here/ or at least aware of our existence.
Uncle Nowa, pretend as if the superchat does not make sense.

>>30661297
she's really inclining. almost at gura level already. she'll be a gold contender in a couple of months.

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE DEATH!?
>THE MILLION SUBS NIJISANJI PRODIGY, THE QUEEN OF QUEENS, MOST SUBSCRIBED WOMAN IN NIJISANJI ARMED WITH RARITY BUFF AND SPRINGY HAIR?
>a fucking tanned elf

THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK YOU!

>>30661278
I watched it but didn't want to post it because it would only catch shit from the spergs

>>30661343
No-one cares about Gura and Mori outside of EN box.

>>30660450
iluna being mogged constantly by the supposedly runt of holoID, just graduate already

>>30661027
Come on now anon, thread is already shit as it is ...

>>30661320
As someone who never faltered in telling /#/ about Salamibots, I can say that these are just par for the course. Expect sub 5k before the end of the year.

>>30661343
vtubing is niche in the west

>>30661362
>giving a niji views

>>30661362
not even niji management care about them. why you should?

>>30661343
Only Chumpedos watch Gura, while Marine's sex appeal is transcendent. Still, Aitore hate.

>>30661382
Grim

>>30661382
Both, because the streams started on different days

>Niji channel gold for the next 4 days
Guess these Niji lewds I saved up over the years aren't going to waste

>>30661278
Dropped it when talking about Choco's return (and nurse model 2.0 showcase) overlapping Nene's countdown.

A lot of smaller events were happening at the time.

>>30661442
That's the ongoing head to head

>magged by a fucking JPStars
grim

Salami bros.. what the fuck went wrong? We were supposed to take over vtubing with a 100k median..

>>30661388
just don't be surprised if /news/ stuff doesn't make it on the daily report if no one posts it here, I don't exactly have the time to browse the entire board scouring for news every day after all...

>>30661401
makes you wonder if the songs were botted.

>virtual to live
Yab

>>30661487
I'm not surprised at all

Tried to watch Honhima due to the poacher anon, but I can't stand her voice. No wonder she is a 4view dangerously close to 3view.

>>30661504
Where?

>>30660285
Thread IDs would literally solve the issue, you can tell it's just 2 or 3 schizos on each side every thread going ballistic and just being able to point them out and shame/ignore them would make this thread usable.

>>30661504
it's actually decent, I heard it before.

>>30661343
Q is a shit song. MV is nice to look at since it was done by nuGainax. Senchou has that blend of catchy song and meme worthy animations.

>>30661343
Gura and Mori views come from looping from their fans. Their songs aren't really that good and have no reach outside of their fans
My treasure box went viral because of the quality of the MV and the coom

>>30661464
since when was sana a niji?

>>30661382
>>30661320
>>30661480

the absolute state of nijisanji....

>>30661343
Big fish in smallish pond
Vs
Medium fish in HUGE POND with EVEN BIGGER FISH swimming around everyday.
It's just that much harder to catch the attention of any NA-based stuff when there are so many competing entertainment mediums.

Grim or mindshare?

>>30661251
What exactly could they have done? Kept the huge number of bots on instead of lowering the number as she got fewer real viewers?

I prefer Lize over kanata all day

>>30661536
here https://radiko.jp/#!/live/JOAK-FM
Suisei on NHK, already ended though.

>>30661596
Who the actual fuck would prefer the leech over ANYONE, including Vshojo whores

>>30661343
It’s coomer bait. It’s impressive still but I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary for it to trend. Hololive itself gave it push it needed to get attention from normies

>>30661472
Oh I saw the Choco nurse pic, but I was speedreading the thread.
No worries I'll just add it in tomorrow's post.

>>30661536
NHK Radio
>>30661560
It's good I like it

Is there Uooooooohhh livers in niji? Gotta stock something up for 4 days of Koshien.

>>30661464
>Sana channel
>Niji lewds
Might as well post Nose at that point.

>>30661617
Aw shit do they leave VODs?
Were any Nijis there? Why'd she sing that one in particular?

>>30661648
Benisex?

>>30661564
>"Don't bite that hand that feeds you if it's holding a knife"
is the point i shut it off

>>30661596
I would prefer Kanata on my dick over lize

>>30661643
many, they're all going to pop up tomorrow in b league

>>30661596
can i have both tho

>>30661579
Guess what my treasure box is only popular in japan nobody mentions that shit outside of the jp. Q and reflect are both on the top of charts worldwide not just japan.

>>30660567
flags wouldn't do shit. this board needs id

>piano Stelalr Stellar
Nice
>>30661675
>VODs
It's a radio anonchama
>Were any Nijis there
No
>Why'd she sing that one in particular
She didn't, they played VtL MV.

>>30661675
she didn't sing it. She named it though, she was recommending different vtuber songs.

>>30661666
>>30661438
>>30660729
>>30660631
>>30660554
NijiJP has some good rapable designs

>>30660253
fubuki is gaining a lot of subs lately, she's at 1.94 now

>>30661734
And yet in the end it all benefits Hololive which is why I hate this dumb JP vs En timeloop shit. Different markets just have different conditions that result in different outcomes.

>>30661750
Hololeeches.............

>>30661787
I hope Marine btfo Mori

>>30661596
I feel like Lize would be embarrassed and stiff, while Kanata would vigorously try to impress and let you do more stuff to her.

>>30661158
Here's your 1

>>30661590
Collab with the top niji cliques so they get some tourists from her and help her consolidate after her RE7 buf runs out
Don't let her play raw danger
Don't overload her with shill streams
Let her be the captain for koshien

>>30661744
>>30661750
Ahhh ok, the last Radio thingey had a segment where they played recommended songs as well, probably followed that format.
Hoshiyomi prime(F) will probably clip it anyway so I'll catch it from there.

>>30661734
>worldwide
You mean "English speaking sphere that has access to internet".

>>30661872
>Let her be the captain for koshien
that would be chigusa VtL 2.0

>>30661596
Trade Lize with Kanata

>>30661787
Everytime Fubuki engages on a buff content her sub count skyrockets. I feel like she does debuff content to make her more easier to collab with.

How was Lamy's solo live, did it do as expected/break any personal records?

>>30661822
She will and it'll be wonderful

>>30661894
She would be getting tourists to inflate her numbers. so higher numbers call for even higher numbers. The reason she got high numbers was because of word of mouth that she was a 100k streamer

Looking at, moris dogshit ccv in this timeslot vs what she can pull in NA, I wonder, is kiara really that unpopular? What if she streamed in NA or Ina's timeslot instead

>>30661813
People just want to watch streams. Ayame and Shion can ghost their viewers all they want because there are always people like Miko, Pekora and Koyori etc that can stream. EN doesn't have this luxury due to the small roster but everyone single one of them sure act like they do.

>>30661920
>16k potential for 22k potential.
I'm not saying Lize wouldn't get bigger numbers in Hololive but, in the numbers thread, Kanata frequently outranks Lize, while being a 2nd tier in her company. Lize flying solo at the top of NijiFem most of the time.

Also, no comparisons for live/song performances.

>>30661947
Decent for a non first army solo live

>>30661947
it's like her 4th most watched after debut, 3d debut and another live that actually had guests, so as a sololive, i think it was pretty good, i was expecting 60k

HERE; BEAR WITH ME
>ZETA IS A LAMY!
Haters and losers will say she's not!

>>30662006
I mean there's a difference of 'en could use more streamers/existing talents could stream more' and the dumb SCHIZO shit that gets timelooped.

>>30662030
Lize wouldn't entertain a trade like that to begin with. She has never even interacted with a Holo.

>>30662030
Any rank of average ccv for niji JP females only?

I wish haachama would play rust...I want to see a fubuki, matusri and haachama team...in my life time

>>30662101
https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1423962587662741507

>>30662101
You're taking this too seriously.
Neither would Ange, or even Toko, yet they're still brought up, first for baits, then for numbers.

>>30662080
Zeta is the runt of her Gen, she can’t be a Lamy

>>30662006
And the less HoloEN streams the more their fans find other alternatives like other corpos or indie vtubers or move on/go back to flesh streamers

>>30662088
>'en could use more streamers/existing talents could stream more'
I mean what you said is just "FUCKING COUNCIL/MYTH ARE LAZY AND COMPLACENT" or "EN3 DOKO" but you worded it better.

>>30662173
>corporate mandated industry-wide event
name one holo that she has interacted with under normal circumstances.

>>30662219
en3 doko tho

>>30662136
Chama doesn’t play games, learn to live with it Haaton

>>30660285
Luxiem

>>30661991
>Part 4 of a 10 hour VN that released 6 years ago
The time slot isn't the only factor here

>>30661596
I don't

>>30662219
Wording things better could make the thread far more tolerable a d less insane. It's like people forget that words have implications, and neutral words are better than hostile ones unless you really want to start an all out war.

>>30662254
moving the goal posts already i see

>>30662216
Definitely. People who screamed "timeloop" just don't understand where the concern is.

>>30662274
canceled because council flopped.

>>30661819
more like nijileeches
Why would they play that song when the they have Suisei there as host?

>>30662101
More like she will never even think of it because her lord and savior is Mito and she would choose death than leave Mito.

>>30662346
didn't stop anycolor debuting iluna after noctyx

>>30662254
You might find this hard to believe but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFeeKq4nHj8
The advantage of being an oldfag, you remember all those good unity times.

>>30662216
My alternative was holoJP. Now I only watch Gura from EN side

>>30662321
You can't stop the war. All out war was declared once the discord leak happened. So wording is not really important after that, all we need is winning against the other side to end the war once and for all.

>>30660983
yeah, by me

>>30662216
audience retention needs consistency, and good luck to HoloEN for that. Only Japs have actual work ethic in vtubing as a job, for HoloEN its a side gig that earns them cash

>>30662159
Deron futa x Mito power bottom
was the best pairing Nijisanji ever produced, but it also died because Kaede felt award around her friend about it.
/u/ needs to contain their shit better.

>>30662414
>gundou
>unity

>>30662419
And hlgg will call you last samurai for that, maybe.

>>30662219
when the majority of JP streams less than EN it is fine people make excuses for them context matters, while EN are called lazy, complacent, their projects don't exist, college isn't an excuse, they are only in it for the money

>>30661744
>VODS
>it's a radio anonchama
my friend, as an avid listener of radiko i can tell you that they do leave VODs. you just have to wait till tomorrow for it to be available. just use a VPN to access and listen.

Let's be honest 10 people should have been enough to fill a week. Even tempus with 4 people manage to fill everyday. If they were twitch streamers, they'd be 2views now.

>>30662216
I moved on Tempus/ twitch streamers. Vtubers actually trained me how to handle livestreams.

>>30662493
You literally just need to move up 2 reply chains to find the answer for your complain.

>>30662488
nah he still has gura

>>30662254
>Suisei again
she got to interact with Suisei around Toko's live too.

>>30662477
Bingo.

>>30662274
Scouting takes time, no way in hell Cover will take shitters like ILUNA or Noctyx that can't grow their own audience

>>30662477
>audience retention needs consistency

test, am i unbanned

>>30662480
kaede is an absolute retard that just flirts and doesn't do anything else, i feel bad for hoshikawa
then again mito is straight so she probably just gave up because of that

>>30662594
I'm still not seeing anything that even hints at Lize liking Hololive. Why would she even think about leaving the company that gave her everything she has? This is why the "Lize come home" posts have never made sense. She IS home.

Since the Twitch tags are either fucked or gone, this is the best way to track people now.
EN again at the top.
As KSon talks about losing her manager, who was preparing things in Taiwan, since she drank too much with fans.

>>30661884
https://litter.catbox.moe/8i913u.aac
it doesn't have the 10 first minutes though.

>>30662663
What was your crime against our cucked overlords?

>>30662652
these bitches already reclined and their ex fans in the holobox keep them afloat

>>30662696
https://qu.ax
Try this one if you want a persistent one, to save catbox.

>>30662690
>>30662185

>>30662694
>kson 3k even with magic twitch numbers
grim

>>30662696
friend you can wait till tomorrow for the full segment to be available to listen to again like i said here
>>30662513

>>30662694
Tower of Fantasy buff only lasted one day kek

>all this lize lewd post
>no ange
gay

The last time she played this game, she got 5k.
Will she get another 5k tonight?

*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>23,030: Gura (Hololive)
>18,773: Elira (Nijisanji) *Z: 21,218*
>15,810: Kobo (Hololive)
>15,044: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,630: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>9,462: Kaela (Hololive)
>9,269: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,034: Baelz (Hololive) *Z: 9,616*
>6,640: Regis (Holostars)
>6,247: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>6,084: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,866: Alban (Nijisanji)
>5,673: Axel (Holostars)
>5,454: Noir (Holostars)
>5,209: Magni (Holostars)
>5,575: Kaela (Hololive)
>5,365: Ren (Nijisanji) *Z: 6,949*

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)
7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)
9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 10
Nijisanji – 2

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Gura
1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 4
Nijsanji - 8

>SILVER PER STREAMER
3x: Shu
1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Reine, Elira

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 8
Nijsanji - 4

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo
1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen

>>30662690
It's just cope, someone as hopeless like this will never go anywhere else.
https://youtu.be/XAdUk-NnjIM
https://youtu.be/Rt03hsGZYyM

>>30662706
nta, too lood fo nood
I have 69 loods prepped for wamy
snitches got me last time

>>30662741
She is really done. I am waiting for a few other JPs to join vshojo and see the whole ship sink.

Meat shield didn't serve for long lmao.

>>30662706
I got banned for spamming/flooding despite only
posting ollie outfit reveal beating Vox and Ren's tier list the other day. What a shit ban.

>>30662760
oh well, whatever. For the people that can't wait, l guess

Holy shit kobo is #12 trending in gaming despite being in her menhera arc

>>30662775
ange is on nui's team tomorrow

>>30662775
retard, she's in B league

>>30662815
Pink wamy needs to be a better meat shield

>>30662690
None of "X come home", "X is honorary Z" or "X for Y. Trade?", ever made sense. Anyone that threats them serious, should go touch grass.

I want to rape Lize so bad...

>>30662821
the sisters really don't like holoID, do they?

>>30662771
Genshin looks like a fucking masterpiece compared to Tower of Fantasy.

Why college shouldn't be an excuse? Because even Haachama didn't use it as an excuse.

>>30662821
huh, never got that one yet

>>30662913
The one between the koreans, Shylily, said it had good thing, but she didn't see it lasting long or beating Genshin.

>>30662828
i can record it tomorrow like i did when foobs and polka went on tokyoFM but i won't because
1. No one cares
2. No one would bother to listen anyway

>>30662792
>Lize and Kanata are both socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnets
Why silver women, why?

Is Lize basically the Aqua of Niji but less autistic?

>>30662690
It's a fucking joke anon, jesus christ

>>30662954
People are playing it right now because :
1. it's the shiny new thing
2. people are waiting for Sumeru and has nothing to do

>>30662971
someone else in the general will record it anyway.

>>30662788
>Random Rust
VS
>Highly anticipated Koshien watch along with 11 livers

>>30662792
>>30662984
>Lize: socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnets, isolated
>Kanata: socially awkward goofballs, helpless unicorn magnets, boring, leeching.

>>30663049
i highly doubt that.

>>30662954
nothing is beating genshin ever its a well oiled machine at this point. their marketing game is unmatched and conquered every weeb market possible

>>30663084
>21k vs 23k
Wow! Elira is almost as strong as Gura now, even though Gura has 10x the subs.

>1:21 AM JST
>6 rust streams collectively from JP, ID, EN

interesting

>>30663122
and Hololive can never play it because the reddit dragon angered the chinese.

Lize is perfect fit for Hololive.
Trader her for Matsuri or Kanata please.

>>30662688
She'd be a great tomboy lesbian, but she's too stubborn and self conscious.
Otherwise she could have had at least a 6 woman harem by now.

What's wrong with Tempus VOD numbers?
Despite the 1hr limit to supposedly make following them easier, their VODs are doing poorly compared to a lot of similar length streams with around the same CCV.
Is it because their subs are low? Do they not have an audience outside their streaming times?

>>30663084
Wtf is that z ahah, are they evolving or what?

>>30663131

>>30662482
it's time to cope
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1557606407087996928

>>30663175
What exactly makes her good for Hololive? She isn't some fake idol.

>>30663172
genshin is not a good streaming game unless you established a community around it from the start like a lot lucky streamers did

>>30662832
Are there any rrats on what's going on? The tweets make it seem like she lost a relative/pet or something

>>30663232
gundou was shit-talking hololive on twitter a few weeks ago.

Jesas immediately trending

>>30663192
they share an audience pool of 6-8k on normal streams and 12-15k with tourists on "events". they aren't generating outside interest at all and are slowly reclining without their debut buff.

>>30662971
There's a dedicated Suisei clipper who even clips her radio appearances, so she should have one up for this in a few days as well.

>>30663260
One ID posted in # said her bf dumped her.

>>30663175
>lize is perfect
okay anon that watches streams, what were her regular numbers before koshien started?

>>30663281
not sure i would call that shit-talking
she's a retard who shouldn't be allowed to use twitter, but that was just people overreacting

>>30663323
the holoEN classic.

For some number perspective Mori streaming part 4 of VA11HA11A while overlapped by Rust and with YouTubes dubiously accurate CCV would be in the top 150 streams on Twitch

>>30663326
And got made fun of for not providing any source of source

>>30663089
Lize is 100x less interesting than Kanata

>>30663089
>part of sanbaka
>isolated
uhhh

>>30663391
Oh hello Kanata

>>30663172
Genshin isn't even good for streaming. It only does well on banner or patch days. Pretty much all the twitch streamers who got big off genshin have had to switch to some other content as their main content because it's just not sustainable.

>>30663391
and yet she's been consistently holding 40-60k CCV for the last month. could kanata ever do that?

>>30663175
I get that you guys like to troll with Kanata and the leech shit, but there's not content comparisions between the 2
What would Lize bring to Hololive over Kanata?

Kanata does mixing, singing, voicing streams, Live3D streams producing, popularized the "guess the Holo voice" stream and the Beat Meat out of Anger, among many many things.
She's always been more creative with her streams that even Coco.

>>30663348
OHMY

>>30663192
Less subs, less autoplay, less vod views

>>30663456
okay now... show numbers?
>>30663333

>>30662788
>random Gura Rust with sub-1hour frame mogging 11-person watchalong of Niji's biggest event
LMAO
Sorry for getting caught in the overlap crossfire Bae, but it was for the greater good.

I shall start the process to /become/

>>30663192
Low subs and low churn meaning fewer tourists adding views to the VOD.
They're now up to 30k and 26k views and they'll probably stabilize slightly above that

>kanata
>creative with her streams
lol what

>>30663498

>>30663498
Allow me to contribute

>>30663497
holocope

>>30663383
Not really though. The thread just archived before we got anything from him.

>>30662493
>when the majority of JP streams less than EN
Anon, that's not remotely true.

Actually, out of all of the active girls that debuted before Council (and Council), there are more girls with more streams than the top HoloEN streamer (Amelia, a surprise for me) than there are HoloEN streamers in total.
All of the Council girls but Baelz are in the bottom half ot the number of streams for the active girls in this list.

That's not why they're criticized tho. You are correct and there are girls that have even fewer streams than the Council girls.
But if you look at this list, ALL of the JP below Fauna are
>Gen 0
>Gen 1
>Gen 2
except for Nene (which ate a "suspension" for the tracing thing then COVID) and Marine.(which fucked up her voice).

Council got criticized because they failed to perform the exact task they were hired to do
> to take the load off the Myth girls

People on the JP side couldn't care less about whether Gens 0, 1 and 2 are stream monsters. They've got Gen 3, 4, 5 and 6 that more than picked up the slack
On the EN side?

Things got EVEN WORSE for Gura and Calli now because the have to carry not only Myth now but the whole branch on her backs (in each of their specialty which are live streaming and song production).

>>30663545

>>30663552
https://files.catbox.moe/b2zjsd.jpg

>>30663498
>1:30 AM and no tally yet
>Already a lot of Lize lewds
I'll just start too.

>>30663576
just graduate the entire branch now. this is embarrassing.

>>30663456
Kanata has held 20k averages at multiple points without any Koshien-equivalent, it'd be good to at least compare similar segments

>>30663563
You are welcome to build upon that rrat if you want to.

>>30663588

>>30663532
>never watched streams

>>30661137
They're garbage collectors.

>>30663644
Sorry but Katana is just so boring to watch

>>30663326
She confirmed it herself that she's single in one of her member stream

>>30663635

>>30663326
What a stupid narrative. When she played AoE2 with the rest of the ID girls, she said she can only play for 2 hours because tomorrow is going to be a busy day for her. And the next afternoon she said that she is sad.
The most likely scenario is she went on a long trip to her relatives' house with her family, could be a funeral or the last moment before her relative died, that's more logical than her bf dumped her.

>>30663576
last month over half of jp were below ens average according to the hw chart

>>30663626
>hololive can only win if you ignore the big nijisanji streams
why are holokeks always like this?

peko and miko are chatting

>>30663701

>>30663626
NTA, but Kanata avoids streaming overlap this year. Her and Towa have been doing the same thing and have numbers that are definitely bloated.

>>30663712
>half of jp were below ens average
The topic is stream frequency, not averages.

>>30663752

I still can't believe Enna is a 4k chuuba now.

>>30663803
what?

>>30663281
She wasn't talking about Fubuki but the cabaret bitches starting from gen 3 onwards

>>30663747
Rust is saved!
>Fubuki enters
Fuck, they're just gonna fish then gamble for 4 hours.

>>30663817

>>30663192
Picking some random vods from Noir and Magni (for Noir the Magni interview, for Magni the chatting stream from a few days ago) and their growth rate on the vods isn't terrible. Between 20-25% of VOD views came from the second day of the VOD's life (compared to 40% on Laplus' video there). That 20% difference sounds like a lot but not really when you consider the 500k difference in subs. Despite being - what - 500% bigger she only gets an extra 20%? If we go by rate of growth it probably brings them closer together as well - Laplus at 40-50% vs Noir's 33% on the vod mentioned. Napkin maths so take this all wth a grain of salt.

>>30663719
so, why can't holo and niji have H2H while having normal streams? because you will get BTFO so of course you need big streams to compete kek

>>30663827
See >>30662493
>the majority of JP streams less than EN
That's the topic

>>30663712
>last month
Wow. All it takes is the laziest member quitting and them doing streams to make up for the entire shitty year Sana had for them to get their asses in gear
Anon do you know how trends work? A single month doesn't rectify 6 months of being lazy. Post this cope again when JP is below EN for an entire quarter and then we'll talk

/become/bros…

>>30663873

>>30663712
Why would you think data from a single month is more reliable than data from the past 12 months?

>>30663929

Jesus christ tourists absolutely hate Tempus. Debut buff wearing off is gonna bitch slap them all to sub 5k status. Kinda depressing considering how promising they started off with all those 7-10k streams.

>>30663719
Does Lize using the highest-viewed vtuber streams (Koshien) win against Kanata using any similar big streams (which content has Kanata done that is comparable brand leeching to Koshien)?

Someone run the numbers.

>>30663974

>30663992
Enna bait not working?

>>30663897
>>30663883
the point is, a lot of jps streamed less than the average en last month and noone said a fucking thing whereas the ens got raked over the coals daily and context didn't matter

>30663992
Enna bait not working?

Fleur is really good huh

>730 waiting for Noir with 20 minutes
Damn he probably won't even hit 3k

>>30663532
She gets really creative at leeching

The bait's getting stale

>>30664031

>30663992
kek

>>30664066
Anon if he manages to hit 3k on SC that would be pretty good - Ike couldn't manage it with his 50k "Tourists"

>>30664038
>JPs stream less
>have visible output in things such as recordings, concerts, outside appearances etc
>ENs stream less
>*crickets*