/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30619833
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>bae already at 7k, will get to to 10k even without a funnel
If it were Fauna steayming she'd still be at 4k because she's boring

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>101,488: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>92,357: Aqua (Hololive)
>43,626: Marine (Hololive)
>41,462: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)
>29,436: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>29,192: Kanata (Hololive)
>27,643: Salome (Nijisanji)
>23,532: Miko (Hololive)
>23,178: VSPO (VSPO)
>22,754: Gura (Hololive)
>22,146: Nene (Hololive)
>21,965: Miko (Hololive)
>20,027: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,698: Reine (Hololive)
>18,324: Sumire (VSPO)
>15,720: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>15,669: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,175: Korone (Hololive)
>14,631: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,168: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,797: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,772: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,368: Botan (Hololive)
>13,315: Matsuri (Hololive)
>13,286: Botan (Hololive)
>12,718: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,119: Mio (Hololive)
>12,028: Roboco (Hololive)
>11,738: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,004: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,322: Towa (Hololive)
>10,179: Selen (Nijisanji)

so Tempus succeeded in getting a new audience, avoiding overlap hell with the hologirls while NijiWave6 is cannibalizing existing fanbases which is hell in overlaps with Luxiem etc. is this right

>>30619826
>Regis and Altare
>Regis
>And
>Altare
Never speak here again

HololiveEN vs NijisanjiEN

>>30619830
your first post just said holoEN though, that could fall under the hololive and holoSTAR bucket but you decide to arbitrarily include homo nijis in your niji en bucket. your shit doesnt make sense.

>>30619903
>blue isekai boy stomping alien fujo bait despite all the hype
>gendertuber already a 3 view

honestly after this stream I'm pretty happy with Tempus. I'll stick to Noir and big Magni streams/collabs but all of them seem like good picks.

Regis just dipped his nuts on Ren, all of Wave 6, and Pomu's horror stream and you were getting in a Council v. Myth fight. Truly Enna-schizo hours in here.

>>30619833
/news/ roundup for 11-08-2022
>>30584431
Recent clip numbers
>>30568585
>>30568616
>>30568696
>>30568730

not bad

>>30619903
niji btfo once again

>>30619984
Nice try homofag, but homoEN will never be HoloEN

*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>22,754: Gura (Hololive)
>19,660: Reine (Hololive)
>10,179: Selen (Nijisanji)
>9,811: Kronii (Hololive)
>8,963: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,259: Moona (Hololive)
>5,890: Luca (Nijisanji)
>5,102: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,027: Noir (Holostars)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)
2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)
3. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 19,294 (Unarchived karaoke)
5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday celebration)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,736 (600k Unarchived karaoke)
7. Ike (Nijisanji) - 58,292 (700k karaoke)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8DX)
9. Ollie (Hololive) - 29,879 (New costume)
10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Holopro - 9
Nijisanji – 2

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
2x: Gura
1x: Mysta, Fauna, Ike, Ollie, Kronii

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Holopro - 4
Nijsanji - 7

>SILVER PER STREAMER
3x: Shu
1x: Mysta, Kaela, Moona, Noir, Ike, Vox, Rosemi, Reine

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Holopro - 7
Nijsanji - 4

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
2x: Kobo
1x: Axel, Ina, Alban, Mysta, Luca, Magni, Baelz, Fauna, Selen

>>30619928
Surely exists some shared fanbase between HoloEN and StarsEN but is really small.
I still wonder if Tempus can grab some of the NijiEN's fanbase in the long run but they need to do quality streams.

hololiveEN vs hololiveTempus vs nijiEN

>>30620005
I guess Reggie is a 7k streamer now.

>>30619984
No Starsfag will ever consider Stars as Holo though nice try fucko

>>30619984
HolostarsEN and Hololive EN are two separate branches. NijisanjiEN doesn't have any separation. Why the fuck are you such a newfag?

>>30620073
stop including niji homos in your comparison though, they aren't the same audience as hololive en. Let us see how pathetic the niji girls really are.

Surely he won't reach 6k, r-right bros?

>>30620005
Ren unarchive karaoke will beat blue faggot by 10k holokek so sit down and be humble

HOLO EVENTS:

August 12 Yukihana Lamy
August 13 Momosuzu Nene
August 14 Shishiro Botan
August 16 Omaru Polka
August 17 Murasaki Shion
August 18 Holo Summer live
August 20 Ookami Mio
August 23 Hololive English -Council-
August 25 Holo Summer live
August 26 Holo Summer live
August 27 Holo Summer live
August 28 Holo Summer live
August 30 Kaela Kovalskia, Holo Summer live
August 31 Holo Summer live

If regis can get 7K , I will cut all nijinig's dicks.

>>30619928
Yep, overlap hell+consistent one hour streams to ease them into the job+ collab ban is doing wonders for them

>>30619829
No-one knows about it because no-one knows about IRyS. There are holo songs without an MV that did well and 99% chance the MVs for IRyS will be crappy slideshows or just a looping gif of her model anyways. She'll incline temporarily for her redesign and 3D, but her lack of streams will kill her and I'm not even gonna mention EN3

>>30619922
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Koshien

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
5x : Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha
1x: Flare, Fuwa, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Towa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
138x: Hololive
75x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
26x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Kanata
4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Towa, Toya, Nijisanji
3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi,
2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>30620005
Anon NijiEN males can screech like retarded bats and shit out 15-20k karaoke streams. Bragging about these numbers for the poor blue homo is embarrassing. Next you're gonna say
>b-but holostarsJP are complete shitters and we expected them to be too!
Yeah but they weren't. And then we started comparing to NijiEN. And even Noctyx will destroy them in karaoke, and I am willing to be all the nuts you want so will the iLuna males because fujos are insane and will watch any of these tards do karaoke.

We all understand that the two branches are technically seperate but I'm never saying HoloProEn so fuck off morons, it's HoloEn.

>>30620134
I'd like to think some of their fanbase are people from Luxiem fanbase who got tired of all the fujobaiting and unfunny sex jokes

>>30620140
Just like Enna is an 8k streamer of course

>>30620139
>LGBTLMNOP Soup is 3 view
lmao I bet her artist is mad as fuck at a wasted model

>>30620204
she keep saying mvs keep coming but they never drop lol, what the fuck is going on with her?

>>30620006
Will you do a weekly or monthly congregated one? Or because you already include old clips so it doesn’t matter?

Surely he won't reach 7k, r-right bros?

I can't believe someone threw a fit because some anon decided to not include them in their number graph

>>30620204
That song is good but nowhere good enough to escape her usual numbers or make any difference

>>30620141
>>30620160
Because they're either a delusional beggar or baiting (You).
They've succeeded either way.

fucking femanons at /mans/ sharing boob pics again. man, why do I gotta share this board with women

>>30620268
He won’t

>>30620160
Stop using Mooms to retard post faggot

>>30619928
That's a very broad generalization. Tempus still has a lot of Holo En viewers as their core, they're extremely vulnerable to overlap as we've seen some of their collabs really get battered, and them get good numbers when they have a slot all to themselves. iLuna has mostly not brought in anyone new, and Maria is the only one to really stake out an unfilled slot. Aster and Kyo have been trying to post-Luxiem pre-Primetime Eu slot but it's going rough for them. Ren is mostly eating Noctyx scraps. Aia and Scarle are pretty much just getting stragglers who aren't watching anyone else.

>>30620217
>bragging about chink bots
sugoi

>>30619494
Even her karaokes have the same problem. It's not her ori songs.

THIS IS SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/bouzumi_/status/1557289110515044352

>>30620258
Not to sound like a shill, but does Pippa get the same numbers at this point? Would be pretty embarrassing for nijiEN if true

>>30620268
Most likely, seems to have stagnated at 6.5k

>>30620005
>Regis doing first unarchived Karaoke is getting less than 10k

Even Selen with her unarchived shat on Fauna's unarchived karaoke celebration. It's even worse when you put some other homo NijiENs like even freaking Sonny gets 30k let alone Ike with an archived karaoke

He cant keep get away with holobro

>>30619928
Basically. I think they're not only pulling in guys but also women who would watch male vtubers, but don't enjoy all the sex talk from the NijiEN males. Normally a vtuber audience is pretty heavily skewed either male or female, but Tempus seems to be pulling strongly from both camps.

>>30620160
More like different “brand”, JP/ID/EN are “branch”, at least that’s how i look at it

>>30620230
StarsEN.
Fuck you for trying to muddy the waters.

>>30620302
This. Some of her fans are pretty delusional about her songs, the early ones were so bad that when a song that is "just okay" comes out they proclaim it the best HoloEN original. Really they're just okay vtuber songs with zero mainstream appeal.

>>30619928
Yeah but they didn't beat Luxiem so they're failures.

Regis' chat audience does seem completely different to his game chat audience. Some luxiem pfps too.

>>30620332
he's not wrong

>>30620167
Ren unarchived karaoke will get some stupid number like 35k. But it's mostly bots.

>>30620134
I don't know I feel like to some extent tempus' content, especially Noir's, hard filters the Luxiem doxxsisters

nu metal holo when

Rate Nowa oji thumbnail

>>30620361
yeah yeah yeah
BOOOOOOORRRRRIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGG!

>>30620397
Why the fuck would I do a three way "HoloEN vs StarsEN vs NijiEN" when the only reason to do so is to make Niji look less pathetic? I'm not a unicorn so I'm not horrified at the idea that HoloEN and Stars are connected by a shared company. even if they shouldn't interact.

I'm surprised Tempus don't know about the HoloEN encore culture

>>30619984
Stars is like VSPO, they are friendly with Holos but they in different brand going for specific niche.

>>30620361
I'm not sure who is worse, this guys beg posting, or Iron Lung trying to hijack Vesper's chat on his Zatsu

>>30620230
Just say Holostars EN.

>>30620397
>>30620160
'muddy the waters'
they literally have HOLO in their channel names
HOLO EN on its own is ambigious, HOLOLIVE EN is separate. HOLOSTARS EN is separate.

>>30620339
I would pay for this to be an alt outfit. Why dont vtuber companies allow fans to purchase alternate outfits?

>>30620482
How can one boomer be so based

Why's Reggie's karaoke so short?

>>30620482
How long until he runs out of meme edits? >>30620525
but I don't want to seperate them from HoloEn in the ranking because that's dumb.

>>30620482
Same feel

>>30620361
Jesus ren she just fucking graduated…

>>30620065
Was expecting 7k min so yeah its bad.

>>30620324
>Complaining about tits
And I thought the people over at /mans/ were fags

>>30620204
who cares about if the MV is good, just get them on her channel proper rather than rotting on the topic

>>30620493
The companies are organized differently and recognize the groups as distinct.
If they weren't, then sure lump them together, but you're going to get pegged constantly on this point in /#/ because people ARE going to be autistic about this.

>>30619812
Does IRyS not have a vocal coach? Or is she being instructed to sing like a vocaloid on purpose, as a joke?

>>30619829
I didn't say IRyS' music is bad. I think that it lacks a sense of authorship, which is bad because the one thing that definitely shouldn't happen is IRyS coming across as incidental to the music being released under her name.

>>30620343
Pippa gets 800 consistently when she does her interviews. So yeah at this point Aia is phase tier

>>30620523
Iron lung at least watches starsjp like astel and membered oga.

>>30620530
>>30620525
Fuck off back to whatever discord, subreddit, or twitter feed you follow.

>>30620568
I think he overestimated how long it would take. He was surprised at how quickly he got through the first song.

>>30620612
Fuck those people, I am more stubborn, I will have my way.

>>30620411
for games theyy seem to get some from the girls
i wonder how would they do with something like unpacking whhich is a buff for luxiem but a debuff for holos.

>>30620493
noone ever uses holo to reference the homos

>>30620339
Holy EROHA SEX

I still don't know why Nijimale can get like 50k at karaoke stream but in the next day , they back to 2k streamer
Like Iluna , they got 80k+ debut and quickly become 3k streamer

Kaela appears on Bae's stream, immediately gets bumped to 8k.

>>30620411
>Men don’t want to hear men sing live
Woah

Kaela, bless her soul, is trying her best to bring up Bae's numbers even if she has a stream in 20 minutes

>>30620601
They are on her channel, have been for months. It doesn't make a difference.

>>30620595
>30 minute stream
>6.6k
>bad
This is why you are a schizo on a Tibetan throat singing fanclub and not a scout, talent or manager at a corpo

>>30620217
>We
>Didnt expect them to not do well
Sure thing revisionist, next you'll say iluna stomps all over HoloStarsEN next.

>>30620702
The starsJP? Because most of the time their viewers are so small to not even warrant noticing. StarsEN is clearly different.

>>30620339
PUMPING MY BABIES INSIDE NIN NIN GOZARUUUUUUUUUU

>>30620722
Most of their fanbase are twitter zoomers, they are not the type to sit and watch game streams

>>30620722
the chinese fujos ramp up their bots for their singing because they desperately want them to be idols like the kpop ones like bts when they arent even close

If at first you don't succeed, stream for 5 more hours and finally become a 4view.

>Even suisei can get at least 80k in her karaoke stream. Oh nono blue boi

>>30620665
Oh no, fuck you, they're distinct and this is a hill you're going to die on in a pile of (you)s.

>>30620574
I mean it still counts as "Hololive" if they win a day or whatever but it's a structurally different branch.

>>30620769
whatever you are clearly baiting my bad for responding

>>30620723
Oh shit she's giving bae her gurabuff.

Man why did no one join Fauna's minecraft stream. Look at that fucking boost Kaela gave Bae just for interacing with her for a minute

>>30620632
No vocal coach at all

>>30620574
>>30620482
>How long until he runs out of meme edits?
Until his fan stop, which means probably never, consider /MANS/ is a thing

>>30620749
ah yes men don't listen to rock, pop or rap male singers because it might turn them gay. women do worse in the music industry

>>30620339
Oh nice, another holo mama who's actually going to make bank off their daughter.

>>30619903
Gura just lives in another world from every other EN vtuber doesn't she? It's kind of insane.

>>30620812

>Riku bots 13 ZS

>>30620493
Tbf i kinda get it. NijiEN is treated as one group under a single umbrella but stars and holo are undeniably kept separated from one another. I don't really give that much of a shit about the distinction but I kinda understand since they're are run by completely different management.

>>30620749
That's such a retarded take I refuse to believe you're being serious

>>30620870
i think mumei was orignaillay going to be there

>>30620883
She did a consultation with a vocal coach and never followed up or started lessons. The coach then had to contact her manager to find out if she still wanted to do it or not.

>>30620812
>Peak is 1k
Her ceiling is 1k now huh

HoloEN vs NijiEN

>>30620722
most of those are also unarchived, which means there's no way to track the vod views after they remove the bots

>rat is the one boosted by holoID instead of the other way around
It just keeps looking worse and worse for her.

>>30620601
If the MV is good then obviously more people will want to play the song? It's not like IRyS's singing is bad, she can still at the very least get a normie audience for her songs and at that point that algo will do everything for her.

>>30620832
>>30620836
nobody disagrees that they're a different branch, but at the end of the day they contribute to the same wider company (Cover). If numbers is meant to measure the success of a company there's no reason to seperate the two. The only reasons to seperate them are 1) to help NijiEn 2) because you don't like them being lumped in with the girls. What, if they start getting cripple golds or actual golds are we not going to count them in Hololive? Obviously not

>>30620813

Compare with Suisei

>>30620722
Big debuts aren't that mysterious. Just cuz you watch a debut doesn't mean you're gonna watch them forever after that. I watched all the iLuna debuts and haven't watched any of them since. The big karaokes are almost certainly just Chinese bots.

>>30620950
Isn't that suppose to be Rust for Mumei? And she did show up for a while.
Not sure if Mumei mentioned minecraft for today.

>>30620361
Action like these make the 'Wolfychu in EN3' rrats stronger

Bae just Z'd

Just a question: If Gura was to announce her stream 2-3h beforehand, would she have better CCV? I have no idea if that context about her audience being all over the world is true or not.

>>30619908
Btw, if you're interested
This is the one who compose the upcoming TEMPUS song (Courtesy of /MANS/)

>>30620883
>>30620966
What the fuck man. No wonder her throat blew up. Also that's weird, why wouldn't she even try the coach?

>>30621047
????? No way blue fag’s audience is male

>>30620447
More like 70k+. Ren can actually sing, so fujos will line up to listen to him

>>30621053
maybe it's the opposite, making sure to destroy all bridges so it won't happen

Damn. that so low for alban.
so its true, their fanbase are cannibalizing

>>30620812
Sorry juice girl but N filter disagrees

>>30621047
Tempus line graphs are so smooth

>>30621089
She's more interested in the streaming side of vtubing

>>30621095
It's literally no way because he redirected to the watch party

Why are feet so fucking sexy and erotic?

>>30620544
That outfit might not be that farfetched anymore. Hololive is slowly becoming more ok with lewder content. We are getting Hololive Summer this year and they just ok'd a literal whore outfit for Ollie.

goddammit I love this guy and his thumbnails

>>30621085
I feel like the longer a frame is up for (to a certain extent) the better the CCV.

>>30621042
i belive she mentioned she would be on rust asn then jump to minecraft
but it was on memebers so who knows.

>>30620217
so, is it better to have anemic average viewers and huge peaks or to have relatively strong average viewers but unimpressive peaks?

>>30621089
Because she's a spoiled princess who can't act like an adult and commit to shit that doesn't involve other people dragging her by the hand.

Bae M'd

>>30621129
I left the watch party to watch Bae. It's in an hour anyway.

>>30621152
kek

>>30621120
>Ultimate Doom
You know what, fuck NijiEN, but OG Doom is based and I'll give him a view. Fuck their garbage fans. Vesper would get 8k with Doom 2 on DOS.

>>30621128
That doesn't seem ideal in her position, actual professional music people are wasting their time on her orisongs.

>>30621167
depends on the viewers. If those high peaks lead to big engagement with merch, SC etc. then the peaks are better. Most of the time though, it seems like average viewers are more reliable for revenue.

>>30620752
ofcourse it makes a difference some of her best songs have between 100-250k views after half a year on topic, if they were premiered on her channel they would obviously grow a lot more

>>30621047
Not a funnel.

>>30621120
The game is a mega debuff for his audience, plus there are other streams going on. The reality of adding new talents isn't a cannibalization of viewers, but rather now there are more options for people to watch something. It's better from a business perspective to have 50 talents at 2k than 1 talent at 100k, because if a viewer looks at that 100k's content and doesn't like it, they'll just turn off the stream and watch something else. Having 50 talents means you can always watch someone else in the same org, meaning that 1 viewer who may have watched a Gura stream watches Nijisanji instead and slowly integrates into their ecosystem

>>30621120
>guy with a mostly female fanbase plays a demon killing FPS from the 90s

Bae Z'd?

>>30621144
Fits her perfectly desu

>>30621251
They'd have 400-500k views instead, like her songs that did release with an MV

>>30620722
>kpop fans use bots for views

such as bts , twice , bp

>>30621310
She Z'd mid Z. The stream hiccuped but yes

>>30621293
Which is why EN3 needs their Kaela/Koyori

>>30621251
Her EP that's been on there a month isn't doing very well

>>30621120
>boomer USA shooter
>for zoomer chink audience
what was he thinking

>>30621293
> It's better from a business perspective to have 50 talents at 2k than 1 talent at 100k,
it also means your talent will never grow.

>>30621120
Does this guy even know who watches him lmao

>>30621120
No , the game is not interesting to females , he got like 8k with kuukiyomi

>>30621293
Better for the company but not the talents. Eventually you get your good talents leaving or streaming less and only the shitter who are ok with staying at 1-2k forever hanging around. Already seeing this occur on the Niji JP side.

>>30620339
Hololive Rosemi is fucking hot bros

>>30621293
>meaning that 1 viewer who may have watched a Gura stream watches Nijisanji instead and slowly integrates into their ecosystem
Kek, delusional. I know this might be shocking to you, but this is only partially true in japan where vtubers= streamers. In the west, you have options for days if you want to specifically watch a certain game. Vtuber audiences don't go around the vtuber strea list and pick their favorite content, they watch their fave streamers or they fuck off.

>>30621089
Assuming she's still living with her grandma I can see she's too sheltered to take something into her own hand. Funny that kind of personality makes her fit right in Hololive.

>>30621373
EN3 doesn't "need" anything besides streamers to fill dead hours. You could have 24 streamers who only stream one hour a day. As long as you're always able to "funnel" potential viewers to someone else in your org and not watch someone from the other org, you're fine. Nijisanji has done that part quite well, they've covered almost all their dead hours with the addition of Maria

>>30621124
She won't let a lousy filter stop her!

>>30621293
I agree its benefit company, but not for livers.
Imagine their feeling if their viewer keep decreasing every time new debut wave

>>30620870
that has nothing to do with kaela, it was obs problems then the slow burn as other streams ended

>>30621400
Does anyone know that Quarter Bravely is out? I mean, I do because I listen to vtuber music on Spotify but I feel like I'm the exception here.

I know it's Minecraft, but Bae actually has pretty good numbers considering she's being overlapped by a 21k Gura stream. She's only around 2k off her typical Minecraft numbers.

>>30621343
>they would only have 2-4 times the views
even if you take your very pessimistic view on things that is still a massive increase

>>30621542
>5 hour stream
>finally z's to 4-view

I guess it's a sort of victory...

>>30621542

16 Z

>>30621373
Why so they can just plop their ass into the same timeslot everyone else in EN is in?

>>30621568
22k viewers were there during her anniversary stream

>>30621542
Juice girl vs Nijinigger filter. Who will come out on top ?

>>30621568
It was released during the second biggest stream she had this year, so yeah

>>30621293
this is true for streams but the corpos have ways of diversifying their revenue to make more money in other ways

Margins are merch are significantly better than anything they'd get from youtube so in that sense having an incredibly devoted audience of 20k will probably get you more money than having a bunch of talents who can't sell any merch

>>30621568
I only listen to songs if they make a MV for it and put it on the talent's channel. If not, I'm not hunting it down.

>>30621594

34K ??? Event ?

>>30621568
Anon, her fans are the only ones that listen to her music. That's why the numbers are low. She isn't getting any exposure.

>>30621551
The new wave will probably decrease viewership overall for a month or so before everyone catches the rising tide of the new audience who'll come in from the new livers. Half the reason for having big debuts is to reinvigorate your audience and have them come back to watching your streams. Nijisanji does big events very well, so they're always able to bring their audiences back even if they're casual viewers who won't watch every stream

>>30621680
It's on her channel, you don't have to hunt for it any more than you do for a song with an MV

>>30621620
If they stream for 8 hours like Kaela it won't matter if they end up at US primetime for a bit

VSPO-EN when?

This is 100% Pekora fucking with Gura and its kino as hell

>>30621688

Toya collab

ENTER PEGORS
NUMBERSSSS

>>30621693
That's pretty grim because Quarter Bravely is easily her best EP so far.

>>30621542
Fire up the 2.3 filter now

>>30621753
They wouldn't have an EN audience at that point then, it would be SEA/JP. Which we already have enough of that in HoloEN.

>>30621734
Never came up on my timeline.

+2k viewers with PekoGura

>>30621693
Her real problem is her fans only listen to her music once or twice. They don't do their daily music reps so she doesn't catch in the algorithm at all.

>>30621867
The only way to get exposure as a vtuber is stream and she doesn't do it enough

>>30621688
The power of the Chinman

>>30621717
They will get another new waves before that happen

>>30621688
Kenmochi collab with Gaku. They’re just friends but they’re the most popular pairing amongst fujos

>>30621293
Enjoy your 3 views with garbage merch and inability to afford to do any interesting content or projects.

>>30621584
Honestly? pretty impressive showing by Bae, this would have easily been a 11k+ without overlap methinks

>>30621912
Do these girls always have viewers in the background or some shit? They listen but dont watch the damn stream?

>>30621717
I agree niji does event very well. but its only benefit popular livers. i had seen this multiple time in nijijp.
unpopular livers are just exist to hype the event

>>30621947
I mean, you can argue it however you'd like, but everyone in NijiEN has inclined thanks to Luxiem. It's a matter of fact

>>30621974
Even the JP fans have discords right? Also 5chan.

>>30621974
yes

>>30621780
Who will they even get? Are there any female EN FPS players that would make for decent vtubers?

>>30621594
>50k daily fuwa stream
pfft

>>30622064
no shit, I'm talking the waves after Luxiem

>>30621144
Wtf there's a non-lollipop version? Where did you get this from?

>>30622064
I think it's fairly obvious at this point that Luxiem was a flash in the pan one-hit wonder, and whatever buff they might have gotten from Chinese fans isn't going to be enough to counterbalance the cannibalizing that's going to occur when lackluster new waves like Iluna are released.

>>30621780
Honestly if Cover was smart they would corner that market ASAP and do HoloEN GAMERS but this time it's girls who are competitive in FPS, card games, MOBA, etc. Not pro level but in the highest tier.

>>30621551
sink or swim

>>30622196
Migo and #Timesmith are going to eat her whole

>>30622185
Where will they find girls that are good at games? That are also interesting and charismatic enough to carry a stream? And want to be vtubers? It's easier said than done.

>>30620722
Bots

>>30621974
Yep, every Holo has people tuning in but tabbed out so YT doesnt count them in the live viewership. So they easily have higher ccv but all these people only have one monitor and fuck off the tab to work on shit.

Oh Gurapeko hit 23k just in time for time slot change
JP will go to Migo (or RBC for more Rust), and a couple EN might go to Kaela/Kronii now

>>30621961
Thankfully, in a massive company like Nijisanji, it's fine to have 3views who are able to sustain themselves and even bring in small bucks. As long as they don't damage the brand name, they provide advertisement for Nijisanji and hook new viewers. They can also "make it big" and incline like crazy over the years. You only need a dozen or so livers who have massive viewership so you can sell their merch and make huge profits. You don't sell merch of the people who are only 3views, but that's to be expected. Success deserves its rewards. Nijisanji isn't a soup kitchen that's giving free handouts, it's a company that needs to make money

>>30621884
>Just never stream in hours other than US primetime because you LE CAN'T
retard. Streaming long hours outside of primetime is what holoEN needs.
If millions of other streamers can figure out retaining an english speaking audience over long hours than any of the girls can. Quit being an idiot and pay attention to the actual streaming industry where 5+ hour streams are standard.

I don't think even a gura funnel can save her

>>30622266
>>30622092
any decent female fps/gamer does better on twitch with face cam

>gura stole pekora's horse
BEGUN THE FANBASE SCHIZO WARS HAVE
RUST IS THE FINAL YAB

There's 5.5k people membered to Niji main channel stream lol, probably doing it once a year and wanting to use the emotes. But that's already $16k+ for them lol

>>30622064
Yeah but they still retard for not streaming in zhang hour.
Or maybe Vox not allowed them because he is greedy af

>>30622185
There's gotta be at least 2-3 qualified people in the top 500 APEX/CSGO/Valorant/COD players. You're telling me there isn't a single ugly girl in the top 500 who would want to make 6 figs playing vidya and potentially more with Redbull and GFuel sponsorships?

>>30622196
migo started minecraft
>>30622374
you really ignore the funel gura brings.

>>30621974
I mean I was listening to the stream tabbed out while in this thread lol. Tabbed back in when she mentioned pekora. It's not that complicated

>>30622447
Yes, even the most ugly girl can still earn more on twitch signed to an esports org. Just gotta put on makeup and throw on a filter

>>30622456
What

>>30621534
Eh, you don't even need THAT desu, consider a lof of timeslot can just outright be ignored
Like, who the fuck would like to stream in Uzbekistan Primetime?

>>30622389
What if they're ugly as shit or fat (Selen)? Being a vtuber might be helpful for their career.

>>30622311
Give me a name niji livers who used 3 views inclined like crazy and make it big?

>>30621974
Yeah some people have shit to do and tab out but still listen to the stream for a while

>>30622568
Akina

As an esport guy and watches plenty of pros, the twitch female pro streamers are super boring. If you think kroni is boring, they are worse with lots of dead air.

>>30622537
those are harder to find, most women suck at competitive vidya

The thing about propped up numbers or if the Chinese/company actually used farms on Luxiem/nijiEN is that the unsuspecting person would look at that and think it's good. When in fact, their number sucks. They'll join the company in promise of big SCs, but you'll realize it was just an MLM pyramid scam.

>>30622504
Where are you pulling your numbers from? You really think a 4view twitch streamer makes more than a 4view holo? Or are you assuming all of those girls are going to be 5view?

>>30622568
Bora

>>30622577
That's literally what I do but I already have adblock so jewtube never treats me as a viewer anyway.

>>30622624
when is the last time he still 3 views?

>>30622686
I never said that, just that if she's really good at games then she'd do better on twitch. None of the holo ens are really good at competitive games.

>>30622430
Honestly I wish holo did the same thing with their main channels

>>30622697
bruh. why would she switched corpo if she make it big

>>30622162
Just found it on twitter. I think it's just a fan edit.

https://twitter.com/JonathanAlfarot/status/1557018743020040192

>>30622719
Maybe two years ago?

>>30622504
Why would you want to be in an esports organization? XqC was a pro OW player and he quit to stream he said he's much happier and earns way more than any OW player.

>>30622684
Anon, if Luxiem hadn't gotten an actual decent amount of SCs your take might be valid, but they, at minimum, DO have SOME actual fans.
Of course that leads to the other issue that the volatility of being in the Mainland Chinese market means long-term stability is...suspect.

>>30622507
I may be dumb but JP cameo in every HoloEN stream is like an instant big buff
>"look Pekora is her"e
>"Hey it's Matsuri house"
>"Migo is online"
>"Hey Gura go gambling on Fubuhouse!"
This is not the case for NijiEN, except Koshien

>>30622785
I swear...

>>30622808
he's still signed to one, they just help with getting sponsors and shit.

>>30622785
Nijisanji's KR management was legendarily bad. As in, embroiled in legal trouble bad.

>>30622835
Migo isn't even on the server though?

>>30622776
Like, there's literally no reason to do that, it's a company account. Mito and Toya doesn't do members, the company is beneath them.

>>30621717
Yeah that worked out really well for JP and their ocean of 2-3 views. Holy retard.

>>30622478
>Niji males didn't get any of Altare's viewers after his stream ended

It's fucking over

>>30621089
I’m pretty sure Mori is the only EN who has actually stuck to vocal coaching in any way.

>>30622835
Just an example.
Chat always going wild and live viewers inclining whenever jp shows up, no matter the type of the games

>>30622771
>None of the holo ens are really good at competitive games.
This is probably why Selen gets decent numbers (for a niji CN) - there's not really any competition in holo EN for FPS tryhards
Maybe Altare or Axel could fill that role if they're cracked, but they're obv missing the CGDCT factor of holo EN

>>30622835
Not just a JP cameo, ID ones too. Every single fanbase (EN, JP, ID) goes fucking crazy for interactions. Even when its not in direct CCV, at least in clips and fanart.

>>30622311
Vtuber factory retard.

>>30622478
Niji EN magged by the homostars? I hope ichikara release more waves.

>>30622948
That's because Mori, for all the /vt/ shits on her, is serious about music and is constantly busting her ass

>>30620950
Tell me why these two are BFFs?

>>30621251
CoD launched with an animated MV at debut and nobody would call that a rousing success

>>30622708
Is this the actual reason behind "EN Cull?" literally everyone is using an adblock nowadays, I even use YT Vanced on my phone, and that has adblock

>>30623061
they just talk alot but as long as animal is a thing mumei will never be a great streaemr.

is gura autistic, why wont she go to peko's house

Gura/Pekora interactions are fucking autism incarnate holy shit

>>30622948
Fauna seems to be doing it, but she also hasn't been at it for very long.

>>30623119
>>30623124
so every gura interaction then?

>>30623119
she's scared of her

>>30620975
>We can just debut more vtubers if these don't work out.

90M subs

>>30622885
Oh yeah. why you need partner corpo to open KR branch? iirc niji buy old vtuber corpo right? i also remember holo tweet that they need help to open KR branch. is it that difficult?

>>30623119
Cause Pekora has a fucking AR aimed at her if she comes close

Pekora doesn't like Gura ?

>>30621693
Are they listening though?

>>30623196
>>30623238
Dying is free content...the numbers...

>>30623230
Protectionism. I however didn't know Korea employs the same measures as China to prevent foreigners from profiting off their domestic market.

>>30623218
Check the vods no. anon..... Big channels farms vod instead of ccv.

https://vrabi.net/video/XUEx87tZcvg
>Regis's unarchive
Btw, for all the horny posting on /MANS/, the stream chat itself is pretty decent

>If EN was not lazy , we'd have multiple 20k streamers now
EN3 needs to be personally scouted by YAGOO and Fubuki

>>30623218
>WWE
AEW is the new hotness grandpa. Get with the times

>>30623257
She just hates everyone who has more subs than her.

>>30623086
Is basically how much people watch YT nowdays, hence the Cull cope is actually a real thing. Funny enough adblock is 50% of the reason why youtube is not profitable for Google

>>30623319
kronii throwing away her potential, feels bad man

>>30623302
>Korea employs the same measures as China to prevent foreigners from profiting off their domestic market

So HoloKR basically never. It wouldn't hurt to hire somebody strongly bilingual in Korean for an upcoming wave then

200k Koshien viewers will trickle to other livers... Just you wait.

>>30622568
Chii-chan, Chima, and Ngo

>>30623318
They understand something : KEEP THE GROSS SHIT OUT OF CHAT(mostly)
Something the CN bitches that Vox has don't understand.

>>30623371
they've hired bilingual koreans in every EN gen so far funnily enough. they just dont flex it much for some reason

>>30623318
>Btw, for all the horny posting on /MANS/, the stream chat itself is pretty decent

That's because Altare polices his chat with an iron fist and shuts down any weirdness directly by calling it out and/or banning

You need 2 POV for It takes two?

>>30623399
well Elira and ike are going to try to leech from them
1.6k waiting and 20 ming to go.

what was lamy's last 3d live numbers? Will she beat aqua?

>>30623318
horny posting is ironic horny posting by other dudes here, no homo

>>30623468
You need 3 POV one for watch along.

>>30623443
The Demon King side of him is not just for shows, huh?

>>30623479
Ike's not actually there. He's just in the same team as Elira in Koshien.

>>30623468
No it's splitscreen I think?

>>30623319
>we'd have multiple 20k streamers now
No we wouldn't. Kronii is the only one who has ever shown that potential and even then she'd be a niche 20k. It would be insane to ever imagine Kronii get 20k with shit like stray or Fish for example

>>30623443
what a chad, wish gura and irys would tard wrangle their chats

>>30623318
There is a lot of ring and pregnant emojis spam though.

Bae ccv is about to get mating pressed by Kronii's stream

>>30623086
It's tricky, because I've definitely 'counted' even with ublock on some 0 CCV streams as a test, so it's probably not the only factor. CCV on YT is a blackbox, whereas at least on Twitch it's pretty clear that it pretty much just counts everything.

>>30623443
Almost like another Korean we all know...

>>30623552
m-maybe kronii will get better now that she's not being abused in her home

>>30623218
They made 13M in 2019 from their yt channel

>>30623597
Kronii should clamp down on her horny kroniies too. Disgusting shitters RPing in prechat

>>30623514
His first week of streaming he mentioned his sister and chat tried to do the whole 'is your sister single' thing and he shut that shit down real quick. He also famously banned someone spamming for him to play Minecraft in chat

>>30623592
The adblock thing is horseshit, I think youtube is just harsher on logged in accounts.

>>30623566
Gura has, but it takes a lot to really push her to that point (or specific topics, such as that one time in Jan 2021 about being drunk).

>>30623318
where is the TAKE YOUR TIME?

>>30623468
It's the usual double POV so they don't have to figure out how to split the SC gains.

>>30623709
that barely counts, chat needs more discipline than that one instance. It's full of fags spamming the weirdest shit

LAIN'S ALREADY GETTING HER 3.0 WHAT THE FUCK WHERE ARE THE NIJIEN UPDATES NIJISANJI

>>30623693
That's definitely true for post-CCVID filter, the 2020 YT changes are definitely multi-tab + perhaps adblock adjustment of some kind (But we don't know for sure because YT will NEVER disclose specifics).

>>30623748
Good fucking luck policing 20k+ people without help retard
It's literally not the same and anyone who tries to pretend it is, is fucking retarded.

>>30623748
While probably true, I barely pay attention to it (Probably just desensitized).

>>30623670
I guess he sister is relatively young?

>>30623775
can they put pngs ?

>>30623804
It's about the tone when talking to chat, she let too much shit slide so now it's full of tards, not even making an attempt just encourages fucks to do whatever they want

>>30623864
what

How do we save Tempus

>>30621120
I watch Alban every time he plays these types of games. His Skyrim streams was around the same as well.

>>30623842
Altare is pretty young himself so I'm betting it's an older sister, especially since it was in the context of 'My sister's boyfriend used to play *insert older game here*'

now even Gura funnel won't push Bae over 10k
what can be done to save her?

>>30623748
Her chat has become significantly better though. Without needing to do anything. Make me wonder the the real effect of scolding your chat when you're a 10k streamer.

>>30623842
Regardless of the reason, that's the sort of thing that you HAVE to shut down early if you're not comfortable with it.

>>30623916
Fuck your holoshitstar.
ILuna is the one who need some love.

>>30623864
You watch Gura nowadays?

>>30623955
Play rust with the bois.

>>30623955
Play until SEA hours when people start filtering in for no apparent reason. Minecraft streams are like 2 hours of incline, 3 hours of standstill, then incline after 6 hours of some shit because people are curious as to why the fuck you're still playing

>>30623748
If you tell your chat to fuck off all the time, you eventually get ame ccv

>>30623955
you better worry about niji female instead of bae

>>30623954
better how?

https://youtu.be/deacMG5AWNA
Predict how bad it's gonna be. It CANT be worse than Jazz on the Clock right? Is this their big break? What if it's actually good?

>>30624015
she's barely streamed lately until this week but yes

>>30623916
Tempus is doing fine, it's Iluna that needs saving. The girl with the braid is already a 3 view.

>>30624084
If we are talking about numbers it will be worse than Jazz on the Clock
But performance wise no fucking way it can be worse than Jazz on the Clock. The only song I can think of that is worse is Let's Get It Started

>>30624070
Pretty much always on topic. Like, what even do you find so bad about it?

>>30624084
They have two solid singers, no way it's worse.

gura and bae dropping viewers to kaela i guess.
but really why the fuck did gura started this rust stream if ame and mumei were ending soon?

>>30623748
>>30623864
What's so weird about Gura's chat? The feet stuff?

>>30624248
They arent called chumpedos by some anons for no reason.

>>30624199
People spamming shit about other members, viet fags constantly spamming garbage. seas with their autism. the backseating over shit that doesn't matter. pic related from a random message i spotted in top chat

>>30624245
She wants the funnel.

>>30624245
gura actually lost more viewers to kaela than bae...

>>30624245
she mentioned in a member post and at the start that she was very sleepy when she woke up not long before hopping on rust so was just going to pay it and not stream. she then woke up a bit and decided to stream it

>>30624357
And you think viet spammers or retards going GURA WATCH ME PNG are the type to listen to Gura scolding them? Come the fuck on.

>>30624248
see >>30624357
also yea the feet shit is a bit unbearable but she encourages it so can't really complain about it too much

>>30623955
Gura is bleeding viewers lmao. There wont be any left to funnel to Bae anyways

>>30623863
no

>>30624357
Anon, even if she came down on her chat with an iron fist, past about 10-15k people you're just going to have some baseline level of garbage. Like, unless you have 4-5 moderators ruling the place like it's North Korea you are ALWAYS going to have garbage slip through.
At best you guide the chat by replying to good messages and ignoring the garbage.

>>30624417
the rest can be affected by tardwrangling though even if it won't completely stop

>>30624070
Then what bad about it nowadays? My biggest annoyance was retard spamming asking her to speak their language, which has gone away significantly, her scolding them would only make the chat worse since then, with addition of them, there's also retard who shit on them on chat, who further mess up the chat.

The number one rule of moderating a stream chat is that you can't let the viewers start talking to each other, because they will start ignoring the stream and get into flamewars about current politics.

>>30624357
>>30624421

>>30623804

>>30624529
kronies...

3.8k in the waiting room
Predict le numbers

>>30624357
Better than Fubuki's chat.

I just found out NijiEN can't attach png on their L2D.
Isn't this an old technology?

>>30624357
If I ever see Gura or any other vtuber trying to tardwrangle something like that, I'd call them retarded for giving them attention and making it bigger than what it is, which is nothing. Seriously, how is this a major problem or even a Gura chat only problem?

>>30624529
When has that ever happened? Of all the things I've heard vtuber scold their chat for "talking to each other" is not one I can ever recall occurring. Much less political debates.

>>30624638
the pic related isn't the only thing i mentioned

>speaks japanese
>drops in views

>>30624635
NijeEN is in the Stick Age while HoloEN is building a Moon Base.

Axel 5k. Life is good

>>30624735
>Buff content
>5k
Sad

>>30624635
What do you mean? Nijis can do it but NijiEN specifically can't?

>>30624635
Anon, their baseline 1.0 is absolute GARBAGE shit, and you expect them to be able to pin PNGs?

>>30624788
cry more iluna fag

>>30624635
Only top dog at Niji has that technology. Shitter will have to deal with 1.0

>>30624188
>Let's Get It Started
You know, I'm not a music kinda person myself but something just feels wrong with that.

So for how long does the homos are restricted to 1 hour streams?

>>30624723
All the shit you mention can only be prevented by one thing. MODS, multiple, scolding chat would do nothing for them, especially when you're having that big of an audience.

>>30624714
Every stream chat on every platform, except for Hololive I guess. You wouldn't believe how consistently it happens.

>>30624841
a month, no fucking joke

>>30624841
I don't think they are restricted to 1 hour anymore, Regis's Gungeon stream was 2 hours long

>>30624635
Anon, have you watched a single NijiEN stream? Their L2D looks like png

>>30624730
I'm not even talking about HoloEN!
I mean attaching png is a thing since 2020 on vtuber world. I know about Hololive giving an update to both 2D and 3D model to attach pngs and slight the angel to make it looks like 3D

Why is Kaela and Kronii's It Takes Two stream only at 5.5k? Didn't Ren and Kyo just play it and get over 10k combined between their 2 POVs? Has Kronii reclined that much?

>>30624929
I will never give the dirty scum a single view

https://litter.catbox.moe/eqsrs7.webm
Assuming he goes through with it, would you watch him?

>>30624872
How boring is your stream that the viewer start talking to themselves and not your stream.

>Ren being a retard on Twitter
>Scarle not knowing shit about Nijisanji and constantly talking about Magni and Tempus
>Maria's boyfriend heard on her stream in the background
>Aia being 3view SJW
>Kyo called Ren a nigger
https://litter.catbox.moe/eqsrs7.webm
God save this wave my lord

>>30624962
I can't stand Kaela in collabs, she's better soloing.
T. Pemaloe

>>30624730
While indies (in terms of tech) are colonizing space.

t. holofag

>>30624724
I hope Cover learn that language is huge factor in streaming. Stop hiring billingual autist

>>30624923
Still 1 hour to avoid overlap. But it almost a month already so I guess management is not as strict with that rule anymore

>>30624999
What the fuck is that voice with that model?

>>30625048
QRD on maria yab, israel? What if it was dad or brother?

>>30624999
>>30625048
did this just happen?

>>30624962
A lot of other holos already played this game, i watched 2 times already and not gonna watch it again.

>>30625049
You owe kaela's number to gura.

How does Nijisanji have SO many talents and only like 10 of them matter?

>>30625048
>Maria's boyfriend heard on her stream in the background
elaborate?

>>30625048
>>30624999
Based.

>>30624999
Why does he talk like that? Is it the brain damage?

>>30625084
can't substitute no personality and skills with tech superiority

>>30624999
>>30625048
its gonna take a miracle to save these fellows. at best you can save Maria and Scarle with some help and drop everyone else

https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937
https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937
https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1557924841558183937

Holo goods in C100

>>30625149
throw shit at a wall until something sticks strat

>>30625048
>https://litter.catbox.moe/eqsrs7.webm
WTF is wrong with Iluna?

>>30625172
Unfortunate voice + zoomer
He talks like my little brother which is the only reason why I don't get 100% filtered

>>30623776
I'm iffy on adblock mattering because I sometimes mute streams, go do something else, then come back a while later and the stream will have ended with one viewer remaining, which I assume is me. I almost never log in though.

>>30625094
Even cover doesn't give a fuck that kiara speaks japanese or german or whatever else she claims to know

>>30625048
>Maria's boyfriend heard on her stream in the background

What is this? Everyone knows she has a BF from her old content but was she not smart enough to tell him to fuck off when she was streaming?