/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Give her Sana's model

>>30530040
Shes jus like them fr fr

I thought the redesign is coming this month? Why would they announce it 4 months in advance? Am I biting the bait IRyStocrats?

>>30530040
I remember back when her kimono was just 'delayed'

>>30530040
Every time I see Irys she seem whiter and whiter.

>>30530085
>shitty colors
>retarded tit size
>tainted by the back hort lie
No thanks

>>30530203
>I thought the redesign is coming this month?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFT3QyNN_s
It'll be good if it happens WITHIN A YEAR.

>>30530040
oh, i didn't even know they announced a redesign for her,where is the announcement? are they changing the artist?

>>30530150
Bussin fr fr no cap

>>30530040
I wish we had a way to riot... something that could scare project hope management.
I would love to see a hashtag on twitter #outfitRyS and people would complain to project hope and redjuice

>>30530318
She announced it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frq2nzRx6A

I'm certain redjuice is being blacklisted by hololive. He completely fucked up on IRyS kimono and outfits. I don't know who'll they hire.

>>30530040
Picrel is IRyS "sister" btw

IRyS, your true papa is here. He just lost his brown daughter and needs another one. Do the right thing IRyS and just make the call.

>>30530400
>He completely fucked up on IRyS kimono and outfits.
Is this a rrat with more detail or just common sense from the fact she doesn't have those things?

>>30530282
That's so fucking depressing holy shit.

>>30530433
common sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auxs7PgQeaA

She obviously can't put blame on redjuice, because that'd be against company's policy. Treat it as a rrat if you will.

>>30530282
Fuck man I feel bad for her. They've dealt her so dirty and mishandled so much shit.

>>30530282
No one in the EN branch gets as poorly managed as IRyS. We all watch newer generations getting outfits and 3D while she's been stagnant with nothing for over a year.

>>30530740
She got a kimono along with Council she just didn't like it

>>30530040
Has there been a definitive reason for the redesign?

>>30530778
feel free to post the proof of your narrative anytime.

>>30530258
And that's a good thing.

>>30530591
She got the outfit but it wasn't what she wanted. Then she pushed for a redesign so there was no point in tweaking the NY outfit.

>>30530591
She basically slows down to 1/2th her usual talking speed and speaks exclusively in vague weasel words whenever she talks about it to carefully choose her words and avoid saying the obvious thing, despite obviously wanting to.

If this one is a rrat, it should at least get a "based on a true story" tag.

>>30530935
Was it revealed to you in a dream?

>>30530282
I sincerely and unironically hope she fucking leaves at this point. Words can't express my fucking anger about this all to this day on top of other projects she was left out of. A fucking shame, she would have been perfect if she actually chose Nijisanji and at this point, can you blame me with how she is in Holoshit today?

>>30531097
>projects she was left out of
Never happened

>>30531119
Watch streams

>>30531163
List them idiot

Why are you fags so obsessed with a redesign or new outfits? They're only special for 1 week, max. Then it's back to minecraft and poorly produced EPs that get shit numbers, even if she looks great. It won't change anything. Everyone knows who IRyS is by now, it's not like a new design will bring in an untapped market and her career will suddenly take off. She'll still be doing the same reddit baelz flirting clipbait coom shit and singing like a nasal disney faggot.

>>30531017
It was revealed to me in a namirin patreon stream

>>30531097
Do nijinigger really?

>>30530780
What do you mean? Just look at her

>>30530433
>>30530591
She blames management for the issue and says redjuice isn't really at fault
https://litter.catbox.moe/9suanw.ogg

>>30531562
That's quite vague. She might be talking about Redjuice OR whoever is the new artist.
However, I think we can reach the consensus here: fuck management and fuck omega.

>>30530662
Despite all the bullshit she still manages to have super solid viewership and have a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. That is really a testament to just how amazingly talented she is.

>>30531741
Since she talks about contacting him last year it's unlikely to be a different artist

>>30530040
NIJI REJECT?
NIJI REJECT!

>>30530282
That's sad. You can tell she's crying on the inside.

>>30531097
>In Nijisanji instead
LMAO, she just had 9k playing fucking Mega Man last night. If she was in Nijisanji playing Mega Man that 9k would be 900 instead. She is in the right place.

>>30530405
hot

yes it would be wrong to do that

>>30531935
At least she wouldn't have to whore herself out as much to compensate for her model

>>30532006
>Wouldn't have to whore herself out
>Finana has to literally have sex with you just to get any attention at all
Your post makes no sense

>>30530421
pako deserves better

>>30530040
>Too retarded for her family to keep
>Too retarded to even get into a college
>Finds out shes ok at singing but doesnt go anywhere
>Gets hired but not as part of a gen
>solo debuts and almost no one cares
>Gen 2 for EN debuts and instantly forgotten
>Her music is mogged by non singers in EN
>No new outfit
>No redesign
>No new model
>No one cares about Irys
>Irys is sad
>Irys is suffering


Why cant we save her bros?

>>30530282
That was painful to watch

Even Holostars Uproar got new outfits before IRyS. They don't care about her!

>>30530282
For someone who's whole gimmick is hope, management is sure doing a bad job giving her any.

Okay nobody ever say management treats Myth badly ever again. They have multiple outfits, the have 3D, they have merch and sponsorships, they have figures coming up. The only thing is that they are anal about letting them go to Japan to do 3D stuff. Meanwhile IRyS WHO LIVES IN JAPAN gets shit, hell even Council got NY outifts.

>>30533214
IRyS already has over double the merch of the other Council members and the reason she doesn't have her NY outfit is that she decided to push for a redesign

>>30533214
Werent the 3Ds outfits basically done for a while though? If I remember Mori said that (at least hers) we done but she wasnt wearing it until they could all wear them together.

>>30533008
>Why cant we save her bros?
Because you can't spell her name.

>>30533280
yeah 3D was done a while back until Cover finally caved in and let them do Holofest remotely

>>30530040
>wrong to send a pipebomb to redjuice at this point?
>implying doing the world a service removing a fucking hack of an artist is a bad thing

>>30530327
Please delete this it hurts to read

>>30531903
as if Niji, who hires soley on numbers, would reject a 100 million view creator

>>30530040
her design is fine

>>30533585
t. Redjuice

>>30532006
Yeah maybe she can be like Obsydia and have her second costume. Crazy.

>>30533186
she even said
>i'm losing hope
during her last stream
yab...

>>30533214
Also, I'm pretty sure she's been teasing her new MV from Quarter Bravery for over a month now, and she still doesn't have one.

>>30533214
both things can be true anon
Management was useless for Myth but even worse for IRyS.

>>30530282
>"within a year"
>links clip that says "within *the* year"

truly ESL hours

>>30533008
>Gen 2 for EN debuts and instantly forgotten
The only reason I knew about Irys is because Council happened and someone mentioned it was weird that she was all on her own.
I don't have one of those weird anime cultured "oshis" you spergs all seem to covet, but since then Irys has always been close to my heart.
The unfairness of watching the newer girls get new models and shit is offensive to me.
Irys is great, fun to watch and plays off the other girls enhancing the total experience. Despite most of the people here being absolutely fucking insane, there is absolute not one thing to complain about her.
This shit should not be happening, and Cover should be ashamed to be part of it.

>>30537019
the Spotify stats were really enlightening as to who gets watched by which audience
it's incredibly fascinating to me

>>30530040
She could've had outfits and maybe 3D by now if she just accepted her cute goblin face instead of buying into the meme that she's ugly and demanding a redesign.

>>30537444
got a link to that? im curious.

Reminder that just like with Nene and Flare, Irys's redesign will be done by the same artist. Her face will not change.

>>30538717
Is that always the case?

>>30530040
reminder it's COVER screwing IRyS over

>>30538822
No it isn't. Azki went through like 3 separate designers, and only one of them was because of the artist dying. That guy is just talking out his ass.

>>30537435
>weird anime cultured "oshis"
Oshis are weird idol cultured!

>>30537435
This. But i have an oshi and it's not IRyS.

>>30539527
Ah shit, this is going to turn into one of those Star Wars vs Star Trek things isn't it?
Hell, I guess that doesn't even work any more. While they're both awful now, Star Trek still hasn't managed to make me hate the earlier runs.
Guess those fucking unitard wearing dorks won.
Idol Culture Bros. I pray you end up being Star Trek.
Anime Culture Bros? I'll pray for you.

>>30530040
>is it wrong to send a pipebomb to redjuice at this point?
Yes. Don't do it. But if you do it anyway, /vt/ wouldn't complain if you became a redditor, dropped a manifesto there (doesn't have to be real or well thought out), and say the Hololive subreddit radicalized you to terrorism.

>>30539912
Anime and idols aren't even in the same league anon.
What you're doing right now is less star trek to star wars and more like comparing videogames to music. Just doesn't make sense.

>>30531097
>>30531163

>claims she was "left out of several projects"
>provides no evidence
>refuses to elaborate farther
>leaves

if she actually got left out of shit before in the past could you PERHAPS provide evidence, maybe??? I'm legitimately curious

>>30540529
That was a real Star Trek kind of response. You might have some hope there, poindexter.
Now that you understand your side of the argument, frame it in the Wars/Trek debate. Those outside the debate only see two completely identical spergs very concerned about their weird scifi entertainment.

>>30540691
>Viewing streamers (real people) as fictional korean cartoons
Anon...

>>30538127
all I have

>>30538127
>>30541833
You got Youtube stats here too
https://charts.youtube.com/artist/%2Fg%2F11q84tk9r2

>>30542156
Oh unfortunately it's miscounting Identity towards her stats so Japan will be overrepresented

>>30530282
Does this mean she wanted a change as far back as a year ago? I assume they had to wait that long to kick redjuice off of a contract.

>>30533214
Unless Irys is run by a separate manager from the rest, its got to be the artist's fault, she just can't throw him under the bus to not burn bridges. Fucking Miko still gave credit to her original artist on her anniversary stream despite how she obviously doesn't like her original model and how the artist doesn't give a shit about her.

>>30541122
Oof. They're entertainers, playing a part which is heavily influenced by their personality.. but it is a role.
>Anon... you don't think wrestling is real, do you?

>>30542669
I posted a link of her saying it's management not moving things along. Redjuice can't do anything if they don't ever contact him

redjuice HATE

>>30530778
just not liking the outfit design doesn't result in the artist getting entirely replaced. redjuice had to have fucked up somehow like the design being so bad or poor quality that even cover wouldn't let it pass or they could have submitted it past the deadline and delayed everything or hell maybe they never submitted one at all and the "creative differences" stuff was just to help them save face.

>>30542852
Yeah and Miko also gave credit to her original artist who has been ignoring her for years now. Irys might really like Redjuice but it doesn't go both ways.

>>30530040
>the redesign
Is this cope or real

>>30542976
The way she talked about it, she had a bunch of requests that didn't make it in the final product so she decided to refuse it. She didn't specify whose fault it was but it seemed to be more on management than redjuice.

Irys' redesign is just going to have less SOVL and people will pretend to have preferred the old design just like if tempus ever got a redesign.

>>30541833
I don't get it, what's weird about it? Those are all huge cities with bigger weeb culture. Jakarta metro alone is almost the size of Poland.

>>30530780
apparently redjuice is pretty flaky unless they're working on something they're really interested in. official story is there were "creative differences" over the new years outfit design but something bigger must have happened if cover decided to just get someone brand new to do a total redesign.

>>30543099
real, she teased a "change" during her anniversary stream and has since explained she won't be getting any new outfits until it's over.

What ever happened to the One Step at a Time Music Video? It was announced at the end of June, she mentioned in one of her streams it would probably come out end of July. We are now almost halfway through August and the MV still hasn't dropped. Maybe I missed an announcement in a stream? Or this is just more incompetent management.

>>30531343
because without it, she won't have a 3D. That's what we really want

>>30544492
Most of her MV got indefinite delay with no explanation

Does she sing EN stuff or is it still all JP?

>>30530282
>one and a half year of nothing
>concerts and special sponsorships are also delayed until her redesign

>>30533008
if jp's can save Migger >we can save Irys

Honestly I like her design, before coming here and seeing the issues she's had with obtaining costumes and the like I didn't realize it was a problem for so many people.

>>30530260
Kill yourself

Redjuice is simply waiting for irys to denounce her other half and fully commit herself to the glory of nippon. If she does, Ina will be beheaded on stream as, all Koreans dogs should be, after which she will have a collab with ayame. At the end she will announce her 3d and new merch.

>>30549630
>concerts and special sponsorships are also delayed until her redesign
Why would that be true? She's already doing concerts at cons
>>30548367
She's going to use her 3D to twerk during her 3D debut and then not use it much at all. It's not that big of a deal and ID2 don't even have theirs yet

>>30544492
She has the worst managers in Hololive, and that's fucking saying something

I actually got a redjuice artbook this week. It's kind of depressing how cool an artist they are and how little they support Irys.

A 3D in his style could be dope

>>30551616
I guess he thought designing irys was a one and done deal

>>30532006
Yeah, instead she could've been a dumb bitch telling people to "educate themselves" and then have to backtrack all the way to deepthroating a mic. And the real kicker is the dumbass fish only made about $700 from that whoring out session.

>>30551616
Blame Cover and their shit contracts. I bet the demand was crazy for what they were paying him so he just ditched after hearing IRyS complain about her model being ugly.

>>30530150
Just imagine how much better Selen's model would be without the hair wings or the bib.

I never understood....why does everyone here hate each other? Couldn't we just discuss something without slamming the other like a mental retard?

>>30544492
I think they're waiting for the new model. Her previous video suspiciously had lots of empty background scenes of grass and stuff, like IRyS was meant to be in them.

>>30531365
Humongous if copacetic.

>>30530282
>It's probably like that for a lot of talents
>We will never hear about it because they won't dare complain
This is the kind of stuff that made people understand that Cover is a bad company

>>30553190
I could see this but I would actually blame IRyS for that, her NY outfit wasnt done in a week and artists usually make several drafts before the final design is approved. IRyS had plenty of opportunities to request changes and if she didnt the like the final design thats on her
redjuice most likely sees that design as a job done and finished so when Cover asked for a redesign he send them to the end of his commisions queue

>>30540691
You might be overthinking things. An anime fan will not necessarily be into idol culture, and viceversa. Their only link between the two is Japan, and that's it. Anime culture is following animated shows, their voice actors, directors, animation studios, etc. Idol culture is following artists individually or as a part of a group, live concerts, meet and greets, appearances in variety shows, their social media life, etc.

>>30530591
There's also the issue that RJ congratulated her for her birthday a few weeks too late.

Which can be understandable from the busy schedule he has, but it could've also been where Cover decided to cross the line.

>>30554705
There's no way that had any impact into any decision

>>30530040
welcome to corpo. their chuubas are plentiful, so why bother with extra expenses?
take the indie pill.

>>30530260
>assuming that anyone would have a problem with irys skinwalking sana's model due to so little streaming that no one even remembers how she acted

>>30530040
Blame her Lazy Retarded Papa
Fuck that lazy FAG
Cover should hire a better Papa for IRyS

>>30554906
>indie pill
>2view cap
NOPE!!!!!

Alright, as a true IRyS fan, I would rather have her in VShojo now than the fucking black company that is cover.
Atleast there she will be able to comission her own model, songs, designs and do the la creative dad stuff that she wants to do.
It's so fucking tiring to see Amelia's and IRyS's potential getting ruined because of cover(especially IRyS)

>>30543439
>apparently redjuice is pretty flaky
i fucking hate "artist types" so much holy shit
sam hyde talks about this with some of the people hes hired
it doesnt matter how talented you are if youre doing contract work you have to get that shit done and treat it like a job, you dont get the choice to be "flaky"
fuck redjuice he deserves to wallow in poverty and starve until he gets his act together and works like an adult

>>30530040
Don't care I love my wifeRyS all the same

>>30533214
i mean management still sucks for myth and there are valid complaints, but yeah its not even close to how bad it is for irys

>>30533008
irys's rm was in my dream yesterday and i couldnt save her...

>>30531097
>>30555990
you guys are fucking retarded
yeah she gets treated maybe the worst in hololive but no other agency even comes close to hololive and anything you say is cope
if you really think nazuna or kson are better off or happier in vshojo you are delusional

>>30556691
She doesn't get treated that badly. The worst that happened to her is that a few MVs got released late. She gets 3 merch releases a year, gets included into Council events and got to sing in the 2nd HololiveAlt PV

I feel real bad for her. She gets hired to do music, they beat her into the ground as she realizes she won't get any real support for her music beyond studio and marketing is all on her so she tries to double duty doing a lot of streaming. Mori becomes the golden music goose getting a contract with UMG, and she gets left by the wayside, voice/throat busted from overuse. They rawdogged the fuck out of her and sattled her with shit expectations/help on the streamer side of things because she's a 'vsinger' like Azki.

>>30556691
>no other agency even comes close to hololive and anything you say is cope
This is actually you coping

>>30556957
>records one small EP
>vocal cords die
That's not Cover's fault

>>30556890
I won't undermine her own accomplishments, but I'm convinced Council adopting her as a foster 6th (5th) member saved her from obscurity. It still boggles my mind how HoloEN's management thought it was a good ideal to debut a solo vsinger not even a month and a half before the 2nd EN gen. How can an entertainment company be this fucking incompetent?

>>30556691
Pure cope you're huffing, huh?

>>30557276
She was doing just as fine before being "adopted" by Council, whatever that means

Is she allowed to commission a new outfit with her own money?

>>30556963
>>30557295
Vwhorejo cope

i hope Cover give her nothing. i want to see her cry on stream and graduate

>>30550566
shes still a vsinger and needs to do concerts where a cardboard cutout or using her live2d isn't going to cut it.

>>30555990
If you were a true IRyS fan you would know she doesn't want to be anywhere but Hololive and has gone on record saying as much. But you aren't. You are just another shit stirrer false flagging to try to give yourself some semblance of legitimacy as you regurgitate shit you heard from Vshojo.

>>30558341
She's happier being a normal vtuber without any of that and her health won’t let her do proper concerts

>>30533316
>>30537435
>>30549729
>>30556509
>Irys

>>30543194
That literally happened when Miko got her current 3D model which is superior to the old shitty one in every single way. Thankfully that has seemed to have died down. I can't imagine current Miko with that jank as fuck old model. The new one is so fucking good.

>>30530040
Cover is probably afraid of breaking contract and redjuice having a meltdown on twitter like mizuryu did.

>>30530040
She can always use a fan made 3d and get new outfits for those

>>30530421
They should just hire keffy to rig everyone

>>30556963
lets see kson's and nazuna's numbers

>>30541833
What's this? And why does all but Irys and Sana have Jakarta, ID as part of the top five?

>>30533008
>”IRys, pack your bags, let’s go.”

I’ll save her.

>>30561613 (me)
Oh wait, i'm dumb and didn't check the post chain

>>30543439
WHO THE FUCK IS 'THEY'? DOES EVERY FUCKING ARTIST HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE RUNNING THEIR ACCOUNTS?????

>>30549139
It's all 110% JP garbage. Not sure why they even bill her as an "EN" singer.

>>30558341
>using her live2d isn't going to cut it.
It cut it so far. Didn't hurt her Dokomi performance.

I’m not going to speculate on where the fault lies but even if there was trouble with redjuice or IRyS herself, it is literally MANAGEMENT that need to handle and resolve these issues. It is absolutely their fault for this being delayed so long. Whether it’s her manager or upper management or Omega being precious with his lore shit, it’s their damn responsibility to have appropriate foresight and handling of the situation.
Maybe it’s 窓際族 or 追い出し部屋. I just hope it turns out okay for her.

>>30551616
>they

Fuck off

>>30562201
>>30562081
ESL?

>>30555027
Oh come now! She really liked bread. That's a personality, right?

>>30562164
People are making a bigger deal out of it than it is is the main problem. She’ll get her redesign in a few months like she said during her anniversary

>>30562343
I wonder who they picked to replace redjuice

>>30562245
It doesn't make any fucking grammatical sense.

>>30557710
nope. she once talked about it. in hololive, everything needs permission.
she even said that if it was a free choice, a lot of them would change outfits every month or so.

>>30557276
she has better numbers than council wtf

>>30530040
Japs really dont fire people for low performance so they are trying to make IRyS to quit. I hate that this board knows nothing about jap culture

>>30563276
I could believe it if they weren't still making her record songs

>>30563726
Purely contractual obligations, thats why they all are mid at best

>>30554340
That's assuming management actually ran any of it past IRyS in the first place.
She didn't get a say in regards to naming the 'Quarterly Bravery' album which is self-evidently a shame.

i never understood the hate for irys's look not every vtuber model has to be generic anime shit.

If IRyS gets a new face that doesn't make me want to throw up when I look at it, I'm gonna start watching her I think. She seems cool but she's just so fucking ugly

>>30553242
Just imagine if people knew the difference between the words "model" and "design". You guys are fuckin retards I swear

>>30564884
it doesn't have to be generic anime shit but it also has to not look like shit

>>30565469
It can look good