/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3052807
>Kuzuha 17k for Apex
Holy recline batman. Wanna talk about it Nijibros? Those are some awful numbers. Never mind the rest of the list which is absolutely dominated by hololive.

>>3052807
when duolingo beats apex

>>3053089
Everyone's declining anon. Pekora and Kuzuha are still the top of their companies but their numbers are nothing like 2020. Bubble popped. Industry's normalising now but we'll have to see if even these numbers can be maintained for a year.

>>3052807
>2.5 miliones suscriptora
>10k Espectadora en vivo
Gura está muerta, llama a la padre

>>3053089
HoloEN went down from 20-30k average to just about 10k-ish so they're reclining hard and will graduate soon, right anon?

What happened to Gura? Was she off this week? I see nyanners there which is unexpected.

>>3054725
She was streaming at the same time as Ame and Ina at the time.

>>3052807
Here's a number for you:
>HoloMyth will be the first unit whose entire crew will have reached 1,000,000 subs on YouTube.

>>3054725
EN viewers also arent attracted to monster hunter. Her first stream did alright but massive decline since. She still pulls heavy numbers on new games

>>3053414
It would have been crazy if Pekora could have maintained her 70k viewers on a regular Minecraft stream. She would legitimately be able to challenge Valkyrae (spelling?) for the position of top female streamer on all platforms. As it is, it is like you said - she's still doing well enough to be in the upper echelons of female streamers, much less Vtubing or even HololivePro, but I don't see her exploding on the scene any more than she already has.

>>3055229
Cope, pekora was streaming during other 7 holo members on and many other many vtubers

>>3055545
She was streaming Danganronpa. Although that makes it all the more amazing cause people will tend to avoid that series for spoilers, unless they have no idea.

>>3053414
I mean, on this list Pekora pulled 30k for a damn VN. Kuzuha only pulled 17k for his flagship game. Not looking good for Kuzuha.

>>3054725
Vshoujo rather than blowing up when the EN vtuber craze started and then falling off seems to just be growing very slowly, or at least the top half of their roster.

>>3055589
Yea but Pekora was getting more views than Kuzuha since last year anon. What you're posting isn't surprising. Its not a good look for the industry only if wanted the numbers last year to be the norm.
>>3055318
Flare....

>>3055589
Didn't he make a lot of his female fans made by dating another vtuber?

>>3055589
To be fair, even on Pekora's vaunted MC streams, she only gets up to an average of 30k live viewers at a time, during prime time as well, mind you - a far cry from the days when she struck an average of 40k viewers at 3 a.m. digging a hole for her slime trap.

>>3055678
Some got mad but it doesn't matter, they dislike bombed the girl (Rindou) so he's fine. He also acted quickly just telling people to believe what they want. Good answer since it keeps all sides happy. Its not the first time those two were involved in drama, the recent thing just brought old shit up again.

>>3055717
YouTube bug affecting EVERYONE anon, how can you call yourself a numberfag if you can't even understand this simple problem?? It started around late November to early December which you can see how much Youtube cut 20K for PekoMoona and more than 40K people at pekomama waiting room.


Also even the so called 30K reclining pekora still maintaining her high vod view before youtube bug which 400K-500K for Minecraft/DQ and 250K-350K for other game

>>3055717
>>3055771
None of his fans got mad you retards, it was those faggots from Jun's channel who raided Rindou after they couldn't dislike bomb Kuzuha.

>>3056481
That one stream Miko did on Twitch kind of confirmed the viewer bug was a thing for any of the doubters. She maintained a consistent 16/17k during her entire stream on Twitch unlike youtube where the viewer numbers are constantly fluctuating.

>>3053089
NijiEN will make you eat your words

>>3056611
I mean its sort of a novelty for Miko to stream on Twitch. It would be like Ironmouse or Nyanners doing an advertised Youtube stream. if they did it constantly their numbers would tail off.

>>3052807
All the girls are declining, but clippers are getting more viewers.

>>3056764
Yeah but my statement wasn't so much about the max viewership but more the fact that the viewership consistently stayed at that amount instead of constantly fluctuating wildly like the youtube viewer numbers do.

>>3053205
Don't underestimate Spanish livestream numbers

Chum buds need shapen up

>>3052807
Nijisanji is reclining hard because their content lacks variety. How could you get good clips out of them when all they do is spam Apex?

>>3056672
kek sure

>>3052807
Day of the Crunch soon!

>>3056813
>clippers are getting more viewers
They actually aren't. Views came in faster and higher last year.

>>3056567
You and JPs can't blame Jun for everything.

>>3053089
Even if still smaller numbers, it's still huge dude.17k is no number to toss aside.

>>3057834
It wasn't even a proper apex stream to begin with he played for half an hour or so and switched to valorant.

>>3056835
Youtube viewership would vary wildly before the bug also, just at a generally higher number. I bet if you got those graphs from November or October they'd have that spikey pattern also.

>>3057137
There's literally tons of clips in japanese you fucking retard. And most Nijisanji don't play Apex.

>>3057860
cope

>>3057834
But not for a Tokyo Ghoul Apex stream. If he was playing any other game, nobody would bat an eye.

>>3056481
>>3056611
cope, youtube literaly said they removed the view bot to it real numbers

>>3053089
They only incline during holidays and also do most of their collabs like baseball, december-january collabs etc reality they have a big teenager fanbase

>>3057987
He's not even actually playing Apex. Half the stream was actually Valo, even if it's not in the title.

>>3058078
Yep, children watch Nijisanji. Hololive fans are true adult manly chads. Idolfags always win.

>>3057987
this, they only care about Apex not about him

Some other numbers
1st week sales figures for vtuber albums >10k now with Hololive's 1st group album

Nijisanji - Prismatic Colors - 24,834
Rain Drops - Synesthesia - 16,645
Nijisanji - Smash the Paint - 15,998
Hololive - Bouquet - 14,637
Rain Drops - Ontology - 14,579
Himehina - Ai no Hana - 12,685

>>3057777
You're a retard who doesn't know anything. kill yourself.

>>3052807
They need more Spanish clippers. Spanish always increase livestream numbers.

Korone isn't in this list but she fell off a fucking cliff in comparison to last year. She was arguably THE vtuber in the first half of 2020 but nobody gives a fuck about her these days. She struggles getting sub 10k viewers now.

>>3058433
lol haters gonna hate

>>3058265
He has like 14k members and he doesn't even play Apex there. If they really cared about Apex, they would watch Hal or other predators. Apex isn't everything.

>>3058433
Seethe more

>>3058536
>14k members
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that

>>3058501
Saga Frontier is a pretty hard filter. Her Thief stream pulled around 15k.

>>3058567
Highest number of likes on a member post.
Source:me

>>3058536
They do, why do you think Hal is getting more views than him now? Sadly tokyo ghoul is being forgotten and its time to move on

>>3058009
For real, people need to stop calling it a bug. Bugs are unintentional side effects; YouTube updated their viewer count code and this was the intended result. Now you can argue that their new methodology is flawed, but that's unrelated to whether it's a bug or not, which it isn't.

>>3058501
She just plays games that filter the EOP and ESL retards, and I'm glad because by the second half of last year her chat was fucking unusable and that was clearly getting to her. She seems much happier now playing whatever she wants with no spics or SEA monkeys spamming her chat

>>3058702
everyone can like or dislike a members stream before it starts, specially if they schedule it hours before

>>3058704
He isn't? It's right there on the list.

>>3058747
and he cant get 20k with apex anymore, hes bleeding viewers really hard

>>3058734
It wasn't a stream. He was talking about chocolate or whatever on a post.

>>3058774
Oh that things, anyway I cant trust that without a real source

>>3058704
Hal doesn't get more views. Only times that happen is if its a tourney and Hal is perspective swithing between teams.
>>3058501
Isn't the timing of her streams different?
>>3058536
APEX streams aren't always about skill. Kuzuha's biggest game currently is APEX like how Pekora's is MC. But APEX and MC aren't everything. Kuzuha has Valorant and got 30k (tho it was a tourney and he had good names on his team like Stylishnoob), Conqueror's Blade, Tarkov, League (which is painful to watch) and more.

>>3058763
Slightly below 20k on a stream where he didn't even play apex for the majority of the time. Truly over.

>>3058842
he still play it, and if he has to use a clickbait thumbnail to get viewers then that is sadder

>>3058807
Join his membership if you really want to see it then. It's not like I'm lying.

>>3058842
>>3058763
You're both retarded. Are his viewers decreasing? Yes but most vtubers are getting less views now compared to 2020. Is it decreasing to a number that people have to be worried? Hell no. The numbers are still good by JP streamer standards.

>>3058872
nice try but no, incredible that his fans have become beggars

>>3058774
from 3k to 5k to 14k? I doubt it

>>3058867
It has never really been uncommon for him to switch games during streams.

>>3058897
Not them but I understand where the desire to gloat comes from since "nijifags" (more likely shitstirrers who don't watch niji) were constantly boasting about his numbers when they were at their peak. Nevertheless this is a numberfag thread not a console war thread so let's keep that shit to a minimum.

>>3058903
I don't care if you don't believe me. I'm just not posting member content.

>>3058905
I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at.

>>3058987
It's how many people chat analysis counted as members typing in the chat of regular streams. So always going to be a massive underestimation.

>>3058897
2020? stop being so delusional, you can clearly see how people lost interest when he stopped playing apex, again, they dont care about him they about the game

>>3058971
>more likely shitstirrers who don't watch niji
This so much. Most anons get filtered by FPS that Japanese people like. There's barely any discussion among fans of Nijis, Holos, VSPO, other companies and indies on 4chan when CR Cup or other tourneys are on. Conqueror's Blade seems to be more of an Asia thing and nobody's gonna watch Japan play League, its not even funny bad. I can't imagine there are that many anons who even watch Kuzuha streams. He's just getting mentioned more due to his numbers. I'm not sure if Lulu is still the biggest EOP/ESL draw that NijiJP has tho.

>>3058987
then dont bring numbers you cant prove

>>3059062
If that were truly the case then why does he get 20k+ playing rocket league recently and close to 30k when he played Monster Hunter and Genshin?

>>3059072
>There's barely any discussion among fans of Nijis, Holos, VSPO, other companies and indies on 4chan when CR Cup or other tourneys are on
that's is niji discord lol

>>3059062
That chart isn't purely about views anon...the thread where it came out isn't even that old.

>>3059015
I see. I have never once typed in the chat so that's probably true. He has transfered a public stream over to members and back, when his stream timing was overlapping with a 3D reveal and there were about 9k viewers when it was public again. That's probably the best estimation you could have of how many members are watching at a time. Seems like playboard couldn't capture it though.
https://playboard.co/en/video/WLB8MJMowQ4

>>3059076
Can you just let the nigger live in his delusion?
>>3058987
its okay anon, i belieb you. Tokyo ghoul is still relevant, and his yab with blue whore did nothing to his number.

>>3058897
Despite all the doompostings, Kuzuha still had good numbers

>>3059112
Its also in Holo discord. But discord is discord. Its like saying a fighting game isn't dead because you can hop onto discord to find a match.
>>3059130
>yab with blue whore did nothing to his number
It unironically didn't. It just affected the girl but she's fine now.

You know Nijisanji is dying when all they're talking about in Japanese Niji threads are Hololive. Ponpoko 24hrs announcement stream happened and all they were talking about there were 'will Hololive be there?' 'oh shit it's Hololive' 'Azki looks like THAT now?'

>>3059062
>first half is live stream views mixed with average live view and later half with view/time
who make this shit? is he retarded

>>3059164

>>3059164
>Is it decreasing to a number that people have to be worried? Hell no. The numbers are still good by JP streamer standards.

>>3052807
Wew that gura recline though

>>3058971
>this is a numberfag thread not a console war thread
Numberfag threads are console war threads, don't kid yourself. Especially when the op is a screenshot from vnuma. The only times it isn't is when someone writes up a thesis on general vtubing trends or vtubing history, and even then it always devolves into console war territory before long.

>>3059164
this proves that he is a one trick monkey, less apex = less viewers

>>3059180
It depends on what threads you go into. I didn't know Chihiro had so many antis until I started reading Japanese boards and comments. Also didn't know that Naraka was an OW bitch first before the APEX.

>>3059201
Gura supposedly has the most archive views so maybe most of her viewers don't watch her live.

>>3059286
She did all her karaoke on member stream. So yeah dumb shark is trying really hard to filter the literal children in her channel

Wait, a duoling stream in top 5? are spics the next pandering for Hololive?

>>3059267
One trick monkeys are people like Bora, Chihiro and Hal. I know you're trolling but I'm still gonna reply and get baited. Kuzuha's APEX=Pekora's Minecraft in that its the most popular game for them and is a buff. Kuzuha still gets 10k+ on non-APEX and non-special streams (like tourneys or first time playing something) like how Pekora still gets 20k+ on non-Minecraft.

>>3058422
How does a Holo group album not manage to beat 6 Nijis that probably have less subs combined than Pekora?

>>3059286
nah she doesn't have that either because a lot of streams don't get archived.

>>3059317
>She did all her karaoke on member stream
I don't watch Gura but I know her singing was popular at least in her early days. Why the fuck is she only doing it in member streams?
>>3059321
There were already a bunch of JP indies trying to pander to spics before holo.

>>3059321
spics have always been there but nobody ever threw them a bone until now.
I don't think they have that much money to give so I doubt it'll become common.

>>3059333
Because most of the fans Hololive got last year were not obtained via their music. Look at how little people cared about that whole week where they released original songs. Do overseasfags even buy albums? Hololive also has alot more piracy going on.

>>3059366
Its not always about superchats anon.

>>3059333
EOP doesn't but shit , major of them are SEA monkey

>>3059328
not that anon but Pekora has more variety in her streams, you cant say MC is her main game when she can get the same or better numbers with other games

>>3059366
>>3059411
yeah, about that...

>>3059489
Whats the majority of currency used? are the supas mostly on spics? otherwise this is just her usual donor doing their things.

>>3058536
>14k members
need a source oo that
pic: shark, rabbit, October membership numbers by 5ch nips

>>3059546
you can see it on her stream, but monstly were spics donating with their currency

>>3059392
Still seems kind of crazy to me. An album with members that probably have 20 million subs between them selling less than an album with members probably a little over 1 million between them.

>>3059603
Yeah i just checked the stream. So basically Wactor spics pandering (and any agency doing the same) is useless after all. Hololive already has all the spics with monies in their fanbase

>>3059642

>>3059711
There are more than 500 million spics in this world anon...

>>3059642
Literally nobody in the world buys physical CD's anymore aside from a handful of weirdos. These sales charts tell us nothing to the overall popularity of the aforementioned albums.
Nijisanji probably just has more weirdos who still have a connection to physical media.

>>3059780
Yeah, but how many are able and willing to throw money on something like superchat/concert/merch? Indogs are like half of that numbers, but i assure you we cant or wont muster that supas number on that stream just for one duolingo stream.

>>3059748

Hololive search in japan increasing, huh....

>>3059748
This always makes me laugh whenever it's posted. Look at viewership numbers and then try telling me Nijisanji is more popular. Especially in the United States, lol. That chart is just laughable.

>>3059748
Now try looking it up in English.

>>3059854
Because your average amerifat doesn't search in Japanese

>>3059578
Good number for Miko. She is also probably right up there with Watson and Pekora if you include her twitch subs. Genius move by her to double dip, lol. As a 35p I know I have both a twitch sub and a youtube membership for her.

>>3052807
>niji reclining
>hololive still top
>gatchman V inclinig
seriously he has been getting good numbers
Also valorant is posion for a channel loking at kuzuha.

>>3059888
>Still seems kind of crazy to me. An album with members that probably have 20 million subs between them selling less than an album with members probably a little over 1 million between them.
use your tribalist retarded brain

>>3059828
aslo most eops probably wont buy a cd overseas without gettng a bulk of other merchandise.
but makes me wonder how these songs fare online.

>>3059828
>Literally nobody in the world buys physical CD's anymore aside from a handful of weirdos.
So Japanese?

>>3052807
Tokyo ghoul back must hurt

>>3059828
Japanese still buy CDs. The top selling albums can cross into the millions of copies. Although the numbers you see for Hololive and Nijisanji aren't bad in the context of otaku media more generally like popular but not mainstream popular anime or soemthing like that.

>>3059939
obviously I was using hyperbole to emphasize my point. I didn't literally mean nobody when I said nobody. Of course there are people who still buy physical media but my point was that the OVERWHELMING majority of these album sales were digital. A chart tracking physical sales tells us next to nothing about their overall popularity and sales performance.

>>3059972
>OVERWHELMING majority of these album sales were digital
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dia/w/2021-05-03/
Bouquet sold 780 copies digitally.

>>3059971
seems to be special olympics case.
most poeple dont buy cds and much less albums hence why the industry of music moved to mostly singles releases.

>>3052807
Did nijis also got a boost of subs like holo got these days?

>>3052807
anglosphere

>>3060044
Even as far as singles go it seems physical does better than digital purchases in Japan. Top selling single sold 300k copies physically last week the top selling digital single sold 19k.

Any stats on Calli's EP?

>>3060165
the curretn industry moved from selling digital.
Is releasing singles on streaming music sites.
While music enthusiast still buy a liscence or a physical cd. Most normal people seems to just wait for it to be avaible in their favorite music platfrom for streming. Thats why i said is a special olympics race. Is a dying medium or at least weaker than ever.

>>3055318
It could've been Gamers or Gen 3 but Mio and Flare was too much of a debuff.

>>3060118

>>3060203
CD purchasing is definitely weaker in Japan than in the past but like with many other markets Japan does its own weird thing and CD sales were always the biggest revenue source there without digital downloads taking over.

>>3060312
agree, but is hard not to see it as pitful numbers.
Like most digital trends digital will start becoming as prominent as physical

>>3060357
Here is an article about it
https://www.billboard.com/index.php/articles/business/streaming/9539037/japan-streaming-digital-sales-gains-cds-down
Physical still brings in the majority of the record industry income in Japan even with a pandemic going on.

>>3059972
>>3059993
>OVERWHELMING majority of these album sales were digital
I know it's hard to swallow that niji is still more popular in japan thus their CD selling better than holo but it's still the truth that major of Japanese are still buying CD

>>3060357
It probably also helps that these CDs will all have store bonuses and other bits of exclusive merch attached to them to encourage physical purchases. Considering the target audience is likely full of people that will be swayed a lot by having to have that one item related to their oshi they can only get if they buy the CD.

>>3060474
>Niji is still more popular in Japan
Yeah, the picture in the OP really proves that

>>3060474
True, but one comparison of CD sales doesn't prove anything about which agency is more popular in Japan

>>3059353
>why the fuck is she only doing it in member streams?
Apparently she's shy and nervous to sing to the public, only using the membership streams as some sort of practice sessions according to chumfriends. When's the last public karaoke stream btw and how many member karaoke stream has she done since then though.

>>3060596
It doesn't really disprove it either though does it? There isn't any kind of breakdown of where those numbers are located.

ENTER TOWA BLOCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_7-2uXqU-8

>>3060639
They're primarily streamers not musicians, comparing stream views is a much better measure of success than CD sales

>>3060688
That is kind of irrelevant to the point. You cant really get much information about which is more popular in a certain region from the viewer numbers on streams if they arent provided by region.

>>3060639
I highly doubt those are all foreign viewers that are leading hololive absolutely dominating Nijisanji like that. Those viewers are still primarily japanese.

>>3060737
>Those viewers are still primarily japanese.
>>3059748

>>3060596
>>3059748

Numberfags you tell me. Was that a major day for the doog?

>>3060300
Do people actually like codemiko or is it some kind of meme?

>>3060824
Her average viewcount is somewhere around 3k so yeah it's pretty much just a meme

>>3060300
>USA
>holo: 62%
>niji: 4%

>Canada
>holo: 64%
>niji: 6%

>UK
>holo: 56%
>niji: 5%

>AUS
>holo: 64%
>niji: 6%

>NZ
>holo: 51%
>niji: 0%
kek

>>3060824
An anon explained that codemiko had a series of interviews of more popular streamers. It's likely that the numbers are a temporary boost from leeching others but anons can check again after this quarter

Really hoping Miko does her endurance today as she's only 5k off, then my predictions for April will all have been just a day off. I'll post these monthly going forward I think as long as there's a numbers thread up, so I'll give an update in a couple of days when May arrives

>>3055318
I hope Kiara never reaches 1 mil

>>3060947

I like New Zealand bros now.

>>3052807
>got this from the day before, might as well post it
i didnt expect to see people like roboco or choco best on the list

>>3062643
Who the heck is that at number 3?

>>3052807
>got this from the day before, might as well post it
i didnt expect to see people like roboco or choco back on the list

>>3060998
might be impossible with that school program thing. We'll see.

>>3062685
She used to be called Sakura Corona but changed her name for obvious reasons.

>>3062685
Some monhun streamer, I have no idea how she got that high either.

>>3062685
>>3062690
Sakura Coromin is an old school from the same period as Kizuna.
She made a simulcast of the MonHun movie, and got copyrightstriked. I dont know what she was expecting honestly.

>>3062690
choco asmr is godly.
Roboco had a drunk collab with luna,lamy and polka
anyway
GO GATCHMAN GO

Hololive JP has less english comments in the chat. Hololive EN lost their viewers time to time. That why Coco never do english only stream. Eng viewers get bored really fast. They will forget her in no time.

>>3062875
>Hololive JP has less english comments in the chat
yeah yeah, and hololive will decline, kizuna ai will reach 3m first than gura and nijisanji will make a french branch

>>3062875
As long as she keeps making some weekly stuff like reddit shitposts reviews, they wont forget her. But they wont turn up to her regular jp streams, either.

>>3062771

And i'm here waiting someone to upload choco's roommate punishment game with a magic wand.

>>3062898
My prediction is that both nijisanji and hololive will fall some more until stabilizing, opening room for some [spoilers]fake[/spoilers] "indies" to climb (vshojo, shibuya hal, etc)

>>3053205
>>3056904
Coco's a goddamn genius for baiting the Spanish language crowd. She doesn't even really need to try and the Mexicans are all over her streams. Every time I popped in for the stream there where mexican pesos painting the chat ceiling red with akasupas.

>>3062967
Hal isn't a fake indie now though is he? upd8 dropped him along with all their other vtubers.

>>3062973
rrat: Coco is actually 1/8 mexican

>>3062992
he's still organizing big apex tournaments. You can be damn sure hes still got a whole staff behind him

>>3062967
niji already plateud.
Hololive i would say it did also. onyl problem for most ENs is that they dont have regular time slots and drags series across weeks. But everytime they stream a new game or a popular one they get great views and vod views too.
Vhsoujo is a complete different animal since they exist on a different platfrom with their own ecosystem and averages but their extra content seems to not doing well like nyanners original.

>>3063012
But by indie people mean if they are attached to an agency or not, not if they do absolutely everything for their channel solely by themselves. Vspo aren't even fake indie they are all attached to an agency.

>>3063063
its always cheaper to pay your staff through a company (can be your own) than directly as a person. But that means some bureaucracy and company bullshit end up arising at some point.

>>3063169
I doubt he has a company setup. Probably just spending the sponsorship money those tournaments get or even the sponsors hiring people to help.

Towasama suggested we make a Hololive Card Deck for battling. Any artists up for the task?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_7-2uXqU-8

gura chan...

>>3063269
he's worked enough time on a company to know better

>>3063338
best card

>>3060636
Valentine's was her last public karaoke. She did a 3 hour members karaoke last week and an impromptu karaoke in todays members stream.

>>3063369
Was it all hype?

>>3060947
I don't know why holofags act like this is some news. Nijisanji is niche in the west.

>>3062690
why is aiba so popular since her 3D debut? All of her videos are over 200k or 300k and now this stream has almost 20k!

>>3064644
She has lore.

>>3063369
Eh she's fine.

>>3058078
It's golden week atm, they should be inclining.

>>3052807
What's up with knot not rank, do the actually take the knot?

>>3064998

>>3053205
Somos Legion

>>3053414
Pandemic it's over, people have less time to watch streams

>>3052807
>The most subscribed Holo
>#15
>Other people played the same game and got higher positions.
>Behind a VShojo
>Chumkeks will defend this anyway.

>>3068537
>check the vod views

>Duolingo beating vampire faggot

Based spics.

>>3068850
Cope

>>3052807
ROBOCO IN THE TOP 10
ROBOSAS WE IN THERE

>>3068537

EOP are not into Liveview , the reason Kizuna Ai can grow more in the west at first because EOP watched VOD later.

You need to check all views for accurate comparison.

2 am jst, guess its safe for numbers update of today

>>3071444
>Not a single EN.

>>3069557
Weird, that didn't mattered in October/November of last year.
What changed?

>>3071444
Where does people even get this numbers?

There is page for it?

>>3071712
Ame and Gura hide their singing stream behind membership. The latest Gurame stream is like 3 month ago. After the EN/JP/ID among us fiasco, management start getting cautious with Outside collab.

>>3071712
This changed, in December
our esl friend couldnt explain it very well, it is that eops seem to be counted way less than jp viewers since the implementation of this new youtube feature, which cuts a % of the real live v number. Most people think it's either about adblocks or spamviewers; or maybe both.

>>3072150
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/trend/

>>3071444
why is ayame's king cover not included? do we not include songs?

>>3052807
>nyanners above blue nyanners

>>3072479
the site doesnt collect their data that often, so it fails to collect the live data for most if not all the live short video releases. Iirc her cover had 16 or 18k live watchers.
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/video-info/uTO0KnDsVH0

>>3055318
get it together flare....

>>3058807
Not him

>>3073070
As in not that anon

>>3073070
Where is the members only stamp? or are you just showing regurar community post?

>>3073168
Guess I’m retarded, maybe I don’t really get how community posts work but that post seems to only show up for members as of now, so I assumed it was members only without thinking. Maybe it was open in the past

>>3073326
You can post stream and community post in public before setting it to members only. Thats why that anon is asking for screenshot for members only post like this >>3059578.

>>3073541
I was wondering if this were the reason, but if it were a case of the stamp not showing up because it was previously public, then I would think the same would apply to the stream that he temporarily restricted recently, yet that one properly has the stamp. Anyway, it’s probably true that it was public before and that’s why the likes are so high, but that part confuses me.
The other anon is right that the stream mentioned above had around 9k viewers right at the time it was made public again, but I guess there’s no way to prove that. And for more reference, his highest regular members only posts have 6k+

>>3073861
JOP doesnt really do the engagement thing as often as EOP does. So if you ignore the schizos then Tokyo Ghoul probably has the same number of membership as Pekora. Well maybe a bit fewer after counting the EOP numbers.

>>3072434
holo viewbots obviously.

>>3071444
>15k Kuzuha Apex
Holy crap it keeps going lower. He really is finished. Nijisanji as a whole might be finished. This list is just more absolute Hololive domination.

>>3076599
I know you're joking but if this keeps up just a bit more, Shibuya Hal can pass him as the top male vtuber

>>3077356
>>3076599
Valorant is poison for a stremer

>>3077356
But his numbers are only bigger than or on par with Kuzuha’s when he’s playing Apex.

>>3076353
haha seethe more

>>3076599
>He really is finished
more like he finishing inside rindou as we speak

>>3052807

What is stopping any Vtuber company to use investor's money to purchase like farms from China and SEA, pump viewership numbers and subsriptions just to make their business seem like its healthy and growing years down the road? Just food for thought.

>>3078332
That lucky cunt, I wish I could get groomed by my own hag oni

>>3078438
Literally Coco is stopping them. Because chinese anti retards keep trying to spam her chat, youtube is testing on her channel a system that blocks vpn users from making any comments. They can likely also stop/ignore views and subs from vpns as well. Theyll have to keep the viewbotting to Bilibili and Twitch.

>>3052807
nice containment thread , keep up the good work
monthly SC tomorrow

>>3068537
Nutsagi you're still around

>>3063012
Hal isn't fake indie though. His tournaments are basically him inviting people through connection. Sponsors came to him and offer to support the tournament. Hotoke (Fennel owner, hosting competitive Apex tournament in Asia) is Hal's friend, he let Hal borrow FFL studio to broadcast, and sponsored all the PCs in the last tourney. No joke Hal is the most influential person in JP Apex scene

>>3071444
Dios mio, Cocoa todavía lo tiene

>>3071444
It's amazing how much Nijisanji has reclined. Just close the company and graduate everybody already Ichikara. Nobody is watching anymore. Put the entire thing out to pasture.

>>3081016
Meanwhile back in reality they've just moved into even larger offices to accommodate the expansion of their business.
https://www.ichikara.co.jp/news/25993/

>>3081074
Seems like a last ditch desperation attempt to revitalize their dying company by begging papa Sony to funnel money into it. All you have to do is look at the viewership numbers posted here. It's not good news for Ichikara.

#KuzuhaIsOverParty

>>3081608
Thank god for that. Males don't belong in vtubing.

>>3081558
A company growing too big for their current office and moving into new larger ones as a result seems like an odd desperation move. The business kind of has to grow first to get too big for the previous office.

>>3063463
>counters
stopped reading right there

>>3081074
As someone who knows very little about Nijisanji does Ichikara do a bunch of other stuff like most Japanese companies do? Or is the merch meme for real?

>>3081701
Or it's a dog and pony show done for PR reasons using Papa Sony's money. My explanation seems a lot more likely looking at these viewership numbers.

>>3081764
The merch meme is not real. They are financed by Sony and Bilibili.

>>3081764
Well it looks like it sells better than Hololive merch at least
>>3058422

>>3081766
Strange way to execute a PR move, not mentioning it anywhere besides the news section on the corporate site considering the amount of PRtimes articles they regularly spam.

live numbers aren't the end-all be-all you pretend that it is.
there's still going to be 100k people watching the archive over the week.

>>3082207
not sure how anyone still argues that viewers in general nessecarily equate to business success when coco exists with her less than stellar viewership but huge amounts of superchat

>>3082289
that was not the argument that I made.
don't know why you think I did, I think I made it as clear as it can get.

>>3082341
i didn't say you did

>>3082376
oh alright, so you replied to be but wrote an unrelated message, mistakes like that are common
this misunderstanding is excused

>>3082426
it's definitely related your point was about how the numt of live viewers isn't everything and vod views are a thing, mine was pointing out that even vod views aren't everything considering some of the most successful vtubers monetarily don't have the best views there either

>>3082488
I see, well I was talking about popularity, not "success"

I will tell you that I agree there are a number of factors with varying significance which determines popularity and monetary success
like merchandise sales

>>3081826
source: your ass

>>3082657
the numbers for that come from oricon

Where's the annual report?

>>3092128
Probably wait for sometime next year? Ichikara's one for 2020 wasn't published until February 2021.

I dont see any chumbuds here, and i dont know why

A LOT of new outfit reveals coming up, I wonder how the numbers will compare. For a benchmark Coco's max was 89k according to holostats

>>3095003
70-90k for the reveal in jp prime time
40-60k for the reveal in PST

>>3095003
I feel like this is the moment of truth to see how steep Gura's recline is, it's been so long since the last big stream she's done. I understand if her less enthusiastic subscribers don't want to watch her play Super Metroid badly but if they won't tune in for a new outfit those subs are well and truly dead

>>3095003
Pulled these out of my ass with no more than 10 seconds thought for each
Ayame: 90k
Watame: 85k
Kanata: 80k
Towa: 70k
Calli: 110k
Kiara: 70k
Ina: 75k
Gura: 100k
Ame: 80k

>>3096474
I feel those numbers are too high. Coco's was probably as high as it was because of China watching.

>>3077356
His solo stream numbers aren't that close to Kuzuha's.
>>3077434
It isn't. Its weaker than APEX but its not an poison like a long RPG.
>>3060290
I forgot that Okayu had already hit 1mn too.
>>3073029
It is what it is. Her new L2D and recent MC has helped her alot compared to the days of Bayonetta,DMC and other games, people making fun of her mantis face and her chat being slow and all green.

>>3096514
Eh probably but it's Golden Week which will give a boost to the JPs at least. Like I said those are my gut instincts for each and they're probably wrong but I'm going to stick with them
>>3096594
Flare's chat is still a sea of green though even though it's faster. She's got to be one of the best earners for her sub count in Hololive I'm sure, everyone shits on her for not having many subs but by every other measure she's doing very well and I'd personally far rather be in that position than struggling with a bunch of dead subs

>>3096474
>gura
>less than anyone
Gura will get 120-150k at the very, very least

>>3094967
live viewers do not matter, VOD views do and Gura still hast the best VOD view average in all of hololive

>>3095237
ever consider that maybe the Burgers need to work? Or that maybe a certain shark streams at bad times for burgers?

>>3081826
>physical sales
boomer senpai, I...

>>3096748
Digital sales were 780 copies?

>>3095003
unless they do as much effort as Coco did with all the viewer-submitted outfit reviewing, they shouldnt not come too close to hers..except for the ENs

quick reminder to people who think views get you no money:
1cent per add avg *100k views = 1k per video
and 1 cent per add is for the usual shorter vids of youtube, whose adds are max 30 mins long, usually 15secs. Streams usually have minutes-long ads, which will pay more

>>3096738
She streams at as good a time as possible for a country with 4 main time zones, stop making excuses for her or at least pull out the classic "muh archives"

>>3096662
>I'm sure, everyone shits on her for not having many subs but by every other measure she's doing very well and I'd personally far rather be in that position than struggling with a bunch of dead sub
The thing I was talking about was pre-big boom so she wasn't doing that well back then.
>>3096774
>>3059392

>>3096673
Well, for EN's sake I hope you're right. It would be a very big proof that EN's growth is enduring. No excuse when it comes to an outfit reveal, the time isn't that bad either.

>>3096662
>everyone
you mean schizos and seanigs right?

>>3096662
Won't JPs be using Golden Week holidays for something else? They're not on lockdown right?

>>3097119
Isn't that most of this board?
>>3097138
Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and Hyogo are in lockdown right now

>>3096474
I very much doubt any of them will break 100k, Nene's 3D only reached 95 and that was a single slot heavily pushed event.

>>3097954
Nene 2nd outfit did reach 110k.
And call me schizos if you will but i really doubt that her 3d actualy peaked at 95k cause that same video have more likes than the above outfit reveal which peaked at 110k

>>3098140
you do understand what timezones are yes?

70,559 liveviews rn , forgot what's peak number.

Can't wait to see tomorrow's numbers

>>3098140
Yea those live numbers dont show all the number of live watchers, because susan is a cunt. You're probably right on the suspicion, as the 3D far more likes and views than the costume reveal.
>>3098179
they were at the exact same time of the day, both on sunday.

Kiara gets 9k subs suddenly after Ina overtakes her. What a coincidence!

>>3097954
Most of those have significantly higher average views than Nene, you really think they can't beat her?

>>3098486

that day kiara play MC for 7 hours in the middle of euro time.

Of course, she gonna get boosted from euro-newfag who didn't even knew the existance of hololive.

>>3098179
I understand it perfectly anon. but 1-3 hrs is not a large enough timeframe for borger and yuropoor to wake up and catch up with the archieve

>>3098235
Sankisei gonna Sankisei

>>3098496
Nene's 3d live was heavily pushed by the entire company and was the only stream airing during that timeslot. If you want to concentrate the entirity of Hololive's audience in a single stream that's how you do it, and she didn't break past 100k. I'd love to dine on my words but I really doubt any stream during the JP timezones will break Nene's record right now

>>3098496
Not that anon and don't agree with him but just wanted to point out that a new outfit is not as big a deal as a 3D.

>>3098664
Everyone stopped for Coco too anon, it's really not uncommon and will almost certainly be the case for these reveals

Cant wait to see aqua ccp vs petit nip 3d number fight.

>>3098740
I think both of them love baqua

Congrats to Miko, 14th Holo, 11th JP and first "Gen 0" to reach 1 million

>>3098740
I didn't know about some of the issues Petit had in the past until I tried to look up her past life/roommate.

>>3052807
I don't know the numbers but I bet NijiKR debut will top the charts today.

>>3099044
faq you, faq miko.
Our elite shrine maiden is very happy right now. Just for today i will take my meds and stop schizo posting

>>3099044
and first baby

>>3099044
Not shitting on her on anything but it just somehow feels less special now that the're so many holos that already reached a million already.

>>3099044
So now every gen except gokisei and the IDs has a member of the millionaire club

>>3099044
is sheep next?

>>3099093
I very much doubt that, Hololive had a decent bunch of streams today.

>>3099244
twas a joke, anon

>>3096474
No way any of them break 100k. Pekora got 92k on hers, I would say highest ~85k for the Likes of Ayame and EN, and for Towa, Watame and Kanata 60k to 70k

>>3099336
Anonchama, half of the board didn't know it was an outfit reveal before its too late

>>3099336
Pekora didn't advertise it as an outfit reveal though

>>3099356
>>3099413
It absolutely was an outfit reveal, anyone with half a brain put it together from the image preview and even the ones who didn't would tune in because of the big mystery and lore surrounding it.

>>3099356
>>3099413
She did an entire segment beforehand announcing it, even if people didn't know it was a costume reveal it was still well advertised enough for it garner just as much attention.

>>3099456
Not even reddit mod advertise it. And no, were not all haaton who cares about lore

Sorry for being a newfag but which site gives this info >>3052807
?

>>3099679
Hiyoko

>>3099173
Aloe returns and gets 1mil. Book it Riku.

>>3099792
are there really that many saviorfags on this world?

>>3099861
Not if you're going to market a stream with that attitude

You've served us well numbers thread but it's time for a new one

>>3100883
I'll go ahead and make one once tonight's numbers are in. It should be up in an hour or two.

>>3100999
Godspeed, numberfriend

>>3100999
We'll have April's SC totals soon too

>>3096733
Copium

thread's still up so I'll just drop this here.

>>3102196
>Another Apex stream under 20k
Yeah, Kuzuha is dead

>>3102196
3 EN streamed earlier yet none appeared in top 15, failure gen

>>3102196
>Not a single EN.

>>3102439
No, you see, vod views, yeah vod views
Hahaha, EN won, because of Vod views, yeah.

>>3102439
They are vodstreamer not livestreamer you baka

>>3102645
Cope.

>>3102645
That excuse always disappear when they pull good numbers tho.

>>3102196
Where's my Nijisanji KR debut stream?

>>3103690
Who?