/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Post your secret 2views.

>>30317338
I'm dumpster diving right now. Want me to post something cool if I find it?

>>30317338
If I post them, it will be obvious im the one posting about them, I can't risk that.

>>30317338
>>30317105

>>30317598
>He watches a literal 2view
Anon, I kneel.

>>30317338
No, she is sweet and friendly, you people would ruin her.

>>30317678
They are inclining though, they have been getting to a clean 10-15 average the past few months. I really wanna see them blow up. I can be left behind in a sea of viewers if it means they can really do well in something they enjoy.

>>30317598
Help your friends out anon

>>30317105
Mikan birthday starting sometime around 7:30-8:00 PM EST, August 8th

>>30318138
You're a good person, anon.

>>30318138
Based

>>30317338
I want to post her but I just did like an hour ago on previous thread, don't want to come off as desperate.

>>30317105
>>30318587
Post the links, anon
https://twitch.tv/nonomiyamikan
https://twitter.com/NonomiyaMikan

Konpicky!
https://www.twitch.tv/pickychannel

>>30317878
unironically this
being associated with this place is a debuff
a chuuba that I watch occasionally got past 100 ccv without getting posted here once
while most of the thread favorites still can't get out of the gutter

>>30318686
My bad, first time making this general should've included the time and the schedule image too from the last thread

>>30318908
Why do you think that is?
>does /vt/ actually watch vtubers?

>find random stream
>start lurking a bit
>she read my name and said hi
>instantly close stream because I got nervous
I feel bad but I have to mentally prepare myself before I start typing in streams, getting called out like that unprompted makes me uncomfortable.

>>30318587
W-what is m-mink juice

Foks loev.

>>30319575
I actually like that kind of stream it's much cooler than 12k people screaming in chat at once, schizophrenically reading into every single joke or offhanded remark to report back here as proof of some gossip mill rumor about how everyone in a Vtuber community hates eachother.
But I digress

>>30319575
Checking the viewer list, certified manhera move.
You're probably better off not watching them. It's a dick move to call out people lurking by name specifically. You can encourage your lurkers to chat or thank them for just lurking, but singling out and calling someone out is just bad form.

>>30319897
Foks life

>>30319897
>>30320511
I want to cum on her belly.

its just crazy the sheer volume of vtubers
i remember when I could check the twitch tag and not find more than a dozen

sneep

Remember to drink water anon

there are too many vtubers

>>30324827
not enough

https://www.twitch.tv/the_e_ghost
shadowrun spectre's playing dragon's dogma tonight

https://www.twitch.tv/vaunleon
paramedic lion's celebrating his 5-year anniversary (of being a paramedic, not a vtuber)!

good night wvt! or else....

>>30327047
gunai ranposter!

>>30327047
ni ni

>>30317105
Happy birthday Mikan!
https://files.catbox.moe/o39vgt.png

>>30327047
This is not a good night ranposter, this is a great night. I'm basically done, just need to do some little fixes here and there.
Also anything anyone want to say about pic related? Any suggestion would be appreciated. Today has been mostly polishing the model and if someone catches anything from this pic that would help too, I'm fucking tired

>>30328183
I hope the final product brings some much-needed joy into Letania’s day, 3Dbro. Good timing.

I love this dog like you wouldn't believe!

>>30328469
Do you though? Do you?

>>30328183
Anon, beyond the fact that you've apparently made a 3D model in blender I have no idea what you've actually done or who you've done it before but I respect the fucking art and I'm glad 3D artists are having a moment thanks to this trend. You look like you've put a lotta work into it and I'm glad you shared it with us over the past 2-3 threads.

Any chuubas here who give good GFE?
I got to DM with 1 chuuba and i am addicted.
I am too scared to open a conversation again, but i crave for it.

>>30328183
I guess if I have to say anything negative I'd say the hair looks a little shiny and the collar might need a little more fleshing out but that's it.

Weirdly the chest area and the neck and shoulders tend to be the most recognizable features of a Vtuber so I guess focusing on those is a priority.

>>30328982
>2009
She give good head?
>2022
She give good GFE?

Ok don't fall in love with the previous outlines, they're crap and I'm dumb, tomorrow's will be miles better
>>30328359
I hope the same

>>30329167
i am 30 year old virgin

>>30327122
ENHACE
EXPLAIN

>>30327047
goodnight ranposter, maybe we could go to bed together…

>>30328973
Thanks!
>>30329111
I think the hair will be a matte of preference, and I'm not quite sure by what you say around the collar, could you elaborate.
Yeah, getting the shoulders to works was a pain, especially because of the shirt + jacket combo which makes rigging a pain. I'm also questioning if I should give her a uniboob bone since the buttons are right in the middle and in the odd case one boob jiggles faster than the other then the buttons will kind of smear and it looks jank as hell

>>30329530
On the contrary I think it's an improvement, sex is ghetto.

>>30327122
SLEEPING SHIMA IS SO CUTE!!!!

>>30317105
Happy birthday!

>>30329720
Maybe it's just my screen but the black ribbon and the surrounding fluff, doesnt it kind of... blend? I have no idea you're looking at the actual model and I'm looking at a jpg

>>30329602
Humada of course

>>30330176
but why is it a thing??

>>30330002
Yes, hence why I said the outlines were bad, no good garbage. This is how the should be looking. Tomorrow I'll fix them in Unity and they'll look good

>>30330203
Because human

>>30330283
well humada is really cute!

>>30330203
i see you're new here
human edit anon was one of my faves

>>30330444
ive been here for 2 months after realizing i feel in love with shima and became GOSler

>>30330512
yeah, human edit anon went to go to other reps a while ago
but he turned a lot of catgirls into just girls and doggirls into girls
the men weren't safe either
some say he still lurks and will edit pictures out of nowhere like a strange ear stealing thief of the night
here's another shimada for you

>>30330647
bros...... my heart...

>>30330203
I'm not gonna fuck a xeno heretic

>>30330225
Considering my (only) weapon was Blender's fill tool (then GIMP's bucket tool) for texturing, seeing all this magic come to fruition gonna make waiting patiently for your breakdowns / tutorials difficult.

>>30331306
Yeah, they'll probably take a while, I have a couple comms to do and I'm also still learning. For example, pretty much all of what I've done today could have been resumed to like 2 hours if done properly.
But, I'll make them. I just also have to make a character. I wanted to make a simple self insert but I think an anime girl would do better in algorithm stuff. But I still want to make a TTGL (male) inspired character...

>>30331033
felinids aren't xeno though

Do you follow your oshis on twitter? Check this tweet right now to see how many of them hit like. Then unfollow those who did.
https://twitter.com/domoarigathanks/status/1555772183040757760

https://www.twitch.tv/shimohisae Shimo's having comfy chatting and video watching stream tonight.

>>30332833
That is a very cold take.

>>30332833
That's a rich take coming from the guy who did a chuuba meet-and-fuck tour, coast to coast.

>>30332906
It's another way of saying "don't waste money on vtubers" because if we're being honest, the only people that donate are those that want attention or the illusion of love.
Why a vtuber would fail to recognize that and make the blunder of liking that tweet is beyond me. I guess they can't help but overshare their true feelings.

https://www.twitch.tv/powernelson
nelson's watchan more EVO

>>30333104
It's a bad analogy anyway. Strippers will actually sleep with you.

>>30332833
It's a joke, lighten up incel and stop letting this guy live in your head rent free

>30333412
t. chuuba who liked his post
Is it even worth sucking up to him at this point?

>>30332833
he's right though, 99% of you faggots are only just infatuated with a streamer, you don't really love them because that would mean accepting her bad parts too which you won't. you just watch her every time she streams and your brain thinks she's the one because you "spend" time together and she reads your comments and maybe replies to your tweets, stop being faggots
t. former gosling

https://www.twitch.tv/cublala
Lala playan Ultrakill

>30333412
Now that's a cope if I ever read one. And if jokes are just jokes, then why do my jokes get flagged as violating TOS?

>>30332833
Counterpoint:
Spacer Gambit

>>30333519
I have never subbed to anyone nor donated.
The customer is always right and don't kill the golden goose. That is what I preach.
Openly voicing that they don't care about them will only end in both parties being unhappy.

>>30333759
>the customer is always right
Hahahahahahaha

>>30333759
>Openly voicing that they don't care about them will only end in both parties being unhappy.
Hating your non-existing viewers is the cool new trend for vtweeters

>>30333810
Unironically yes.

>>30333887
oh you're serious let me laugh even harder hahahahahahahaha

>>30332833
0

You have to hand it to domo for somehow managing to still make people seethe despite being completely irrelevant now

remember when spooki was on domo's show

>>30333918
When you are in a business such as this, customer satisfaction is #1. The implication is that this does not mean any individual, but any sizeable portion of your consumers.

I think of chuubas as any other form of entertainment. If I enjoy the content, I'll sub/member or donate, just like if I'm interested in a show, movie, game, or book I'll buy it to motivate/incentivize the creator and proliferate their content. Simple as.

>>30334429
You pretend as if your donations are even a drop in the bucket. A single gachikoi will produce more profit than a hundred normal members.

>>30334506
Maybe for corpos, but /wvt/chuubas? I don't know about that.

>>30328183
good work anon really coming in nicely I hope you start getting or opening comms this is great

>>30334506
God ive only gotten a $2 donation since i first started streaming youre telling me femxle streamers have gachikois waiting for them? Damn; being a talentless babi sucks

>>30334759
Don't worry my homosexual friend. I've only made 3 bucks in three months. wagmi though, just keep trucking bro

>>30334429
I have been watching chuubas for 3 years and I have never given single penny.
I have even received free nudes from a chuuba.

>>30335060
Damn, shes that desperate, huh

What do people here think of our good friend Elliott? Does he turn you on?

>>30335154
It was couple years ago though.
I really don't try to groom them anymore.

for me its the bat

>>30335306
He reminds me of myself

>>30317105
pedobait

>>30335444
Oh, hi Elliott, didnt expect to see you here

>>30335581
It’ll happen to you one day too anon. Then you, me, and Elliott will have a lot in common. It happens to every straight man eventually.

>>30328183
I think I'd like to see it in motion before I give any nitpicks or feedback. It's been a pleasure watching your progress and I am happy you've made it to the finish line.

>>30335435

>>30334759
Being alive sucks (but I'll still be here)

>>30335476
Still based, anon.

Hi /wvt/

>>30319652

>>30337650
hi anon

>>30337758
I just want daru to win evo. Or at the very least I want leffen to lose. But I’m stuck watching matches I don’t care about instead and so I’m posting instead.

Posting my schedule. Starting the week with Pathologic 2 and wrapping it by running a one shot. This schedule required two depictions of discomfort. Please watch and lend me your power Anon.

>>30335306
I like Elliott. He's an affable and upstanding guy. Not attracted to him, but a solid 10/10 would collab with.

I am stalking my oshi's newest top donator on twitter and the only tweets he likes are crypto, coomer vtubers, vtubers that show irl photos and my oshis. This seems like its going to be Adrian 2.0. Happy that she is getting money but I'm Concerning harder than you can imagine.

The End of Yiikvengelion: You Can (Not) Kiss Rory 1.25 XXL Wrong Soul Requiem III.5 1/2 is this week even if it kills me.

I hate this game and I cannot escape it. Regardless, commission work this week as well, so I get to bash my head trying to make a game that boils down to "Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City: The TTRPG"

>>30338409
I'm always mystified why there isn't more Tabletop VTuber content, but perhaps I'm just not looking in the right places.

>>30325441
congratulations you just became a nigger

Hello /wvt/, I'm (a babi btw and am also) taking skeb suggestions from my community, feel free to suggest anything or maro me!
https://twitter.com/NasuMaturi/status/1556528187315822593

>>30338759
adrian is the worst that can happen to an oil baron, most of the time they're just spergs with too much money that'll back off if you properly put them in their place. viewers have a responsibility to protect their oshis from niggers like that

>>30338759
There's nothing really you can do. I pray that your oshi is smart enough to tardwrangle gachikois because they will use money as leverage for whatever.

>>30339105
What's good with adrian is he doesn't hide it. There are gachikois out there who are smarter and stealthier.

>>30339105
>>30339120
>that'll back off if you properly put them in their place
>I pray that your oshi is smart enough to tardwrangle gachikois
All hope is lost.

>>30339223
It's not that we have conflicting "advice". It's because we have different oshi experiences. You know you oshi more than us so you choose your own path.

>>30339223
my oshi is very non confrontational and let's retards in her chat so I have to step in and bully them but it might not be the case with your oshi

>>30339105
>that'll back off if you properly put them in their place
and thus adrian was never seen again in her streams

>>30339755
>>30339223
kek, that was him a while ago talking about baetani
this is what goes in that kind of person

>>30339755
Based beyond belief.

>>30339755
powerful bear.

>>30339895
I mean if you drop a $1000 dono like he did and just get a "Thanks for the donation!" while the stream move you've the the right to be angry.

>>30340030
>donation
>donation
>donation
>donation
>donation
This is the key word. It isn’t a payment. It’s not a fee. It’s a donation. You give the money freely with no expectation of anything in return. Yes broadly you should be grateful about it but getting pissy and going schizo because your DONATION didn’t get the reaction you wanted means you were just a schizo to begin with.

>>30340030
If you donate for attention then you can go fuck yourself.

>>30340030
That guy is especially a gigantic piece of shit.

>>30340138
Yeah it's more effective to post here with a trip, for $0 you'll get 1000x more attention from anons!

>Beatani vs Lyka
This is why Japanese Vtubers will always be better than Westerners.

>>30340244
I see what you're trying to do, falseflag

>>30317338

>>30340138
Donate for free therapy instead!

>>30317338
https://streamable.com/9bbmrx
Will never tell who for various reasons.

>>30335662
i'm gonna need you to elaborate on what "it" is

>>30340481
>elaborate on what "it" is
Fucking another man

https://www.twitch.tv/paperbag_ch
baeg darkest dungeon

>>30340479
She's underage.

>>30317338
no, they’re any pronouns and i’m not handing them to you animals. one of the chuubacords i’m in found them recently so they don’t need your support.

>>30338759
I know who your oshi is, and you don't deserve her
go find someone else, schizo

>>30329530
CHERRY BOY!?

>>30340527
>man

>>30338759

>>30340555
Exactly

>>30340828
You aren't less of a man because you got fucked in the ass anon.

>>30341203
He meant that Eliott transitioned, you dunce, she alluded to it a bit on d*scord

>>30340481
You really haven’t become an adult man until you’ve fallen in love with a lesbian at least once

>>30317105
>>30318587
>>30318686
>>30329835
Luv this girl

>>30341387
>>30341331
The transition makes sense now, only way of getting the love of a lesbian.

>>30340104
You are right. They are not entitled to receive recognition, but you seem to think that also absolves a streamer from any criticism for not giving one.

>>30341426
meh, lesbian bars often refuse trans if you don't pass fully, I realized most lesbian are terf

Why does Erina sound different now?

>>30341331
>she

>>30341331
Proof or rrat
I'm not joining discords

Who are you watching?
Any streams you're öooking forward to?

>>30341664
Sounds like she's malding. Also, she dialed down the huskiness of her voice since the debut.

can’t believe shimada won evo

>>30340030
My oshi gets more excited about 100 bits than 100 dollars. Its pretty funny.

>>30342261
Bullshit

>>30342261
I saw a meme tweet and don't know what it means but I choose to believe this.

>>30342336
>>30342373
https://twitter.com/raisu_two/status/1556553420387016704

>>30340030
I once donated $1000 to someone and I was hoping she wouldn't acknowledge it at all because I explicitly did it anonymously off-stream to not draw attention

I’m the oshi getting excited over 100 bits because I’ve been streaking for over a year and I still don’t get the system. I guess I’m rhubarbed

>>30342492
>I’ve been streaking for over a year
Now I'm interested, which chuuba?

>>30342492
>streaking for over a year
you must be pretty fast to avoid being caught for this long

>>30342547
>>30342536
I bet it's mikan, she's fit, run fast and seem the type to not mind nudity

>>30342536
I do stream naked sometimes because who’s going to catch me anyway?

>>30342649
me when i hack the mainframe and disable vtube studio so it cuts to your normal webcam and we see your whole hog

>>30342492
>>30342649
No wonder you're friends with my oshi, you're so similar.

>>30342684
>get told that im attractive by a lot of people
Time to have someone orchestrate a yab to get the horny money

>>30342622
She won't even post her armpit anonmyously on the internet. I don't think she is the type to go streaking.

>see this on my twitter feed
>https://www.lilnoot.com/vtubers
>$3,000 usd for vtuber art (unrigged)
>has only made 1 model before
is it really that easy for artists? kek

>>30343839
>base price
That made it 3000x worse.

>>30343652
You don't get it, nudity in front of strangers is nothing but nudity in front of people that you know or who know you is different

picky no!

>>30343839
>does not include: character design services
So you have to have your design figured out, its just bringing it to live2d assets.

Can't really blame them in my opinion, everyone charges to their means. If they live in new york, thats just their rent money, if they work slowly and pedantically over details, they have to make it worth their while.

you fellas ever start a new folder for art of a particulae chuuba and know you’re making a mistake?

>>30343839
idk who they are but too high prices aren't really an issue since you can just like, not commission them
Personally I had a few riggings requests since I did rigging before, but the way I value my time, I have no reason to accept under at least $2.5K~$3 minimum, I have better to do with this time otherwise.
If people don't think it's worth this much then no problem, just ask someone else.

>>30344088
Yeah, I never saw much issue with high prices. It's not like it's hard to just commission one of the other thousand artist out there, and good quality does take time, not everyone is living at their parent's house.

>>30344163
nah I like keeping things somewhat organized, even if a lot of my folders only have a small handful of images. if anything looking at my /wvt/ fanart folder and seeing some chuubas I barely watch have folders while others I watch actively just be strewn about in the "other" section makes me think I need to take some time later today to organize it properly.

>>30344307
My chuuba folder is still named "Hololive" because I kept putting the new pictures inside it and never bothered to change the name despite not having watched Hololive in the last 2 years

I like when Mikan writes 'minko' . It's very versatile. Theres a cheery minko, theres a sad minko, all implied by the sentence itself and i can hear it in my head when i read it. I think it's very cute. She should stealthily raise the amount of minkos per post. But not too much.

Any vtubers that do youtube videos consistently?
Not interested in watching streams.

>>30344307
>>30344349
alright but i mean like i don’t have folders for any others. i barely have individual folders for any people or characters i like, i just have a massive disorganized fuckoff image folder. so for me this is major.

https://twitter.com/veleckvt/status/1556508184793300992

veleckbros… here’s your shot…

>>30344657
Azuma Lim
She makes edited videos with her 3D edited on top of herself, often outdoors activities like motorbiking or fishing. She even has english subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZDGcikaRkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzW0d4IkF8

>>30344657
Then you are looking for YouTuber not Twitch streamer, Mostly the one posted in here a Twitch streamers. You are better off viewing high quality contents that 3DP produce since they are always educative and will enhance your experience.

>>30345027
>ywnh a cute bike gf

>>30345221
It's actually the opposite, there are tons more streamers than vtubers so your logic of "high quality content" would apply there too.

And the possibility of acting a character for entertainment is heavily reducer while streaming vs edited videos where you can really work on that part better. Sad that it became rare nowadays but still.

>>30345365
I miss Eilene skits so much, I never found anything like this ever again.

>>30345221
I know, I'm not new around here. It's just after tuning out of streaming since last year, I thought that maybe some /here/ tubers or chuubas I don't know about had started producing content or something while I was gone.
>>30345406
Same desu

>>30345365
>>30345027
Youtubers are not Vtubers, get out with the off-topic.

>30345488
Holy shit.

>>30344978
She is menhera but she seems like a sweet and loving person. Almost every other vtuber gives off "if you dont earn 10k a month dont talk to me" vibes but she seems really down to earth.

>>30345430
Natsumi Moe still does some
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCRAQLkmlGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebVNxIAV_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHwQbNW7iBg

>>30345574
She also has a boyfriend so the tweet makes no sense at all.

>>30344978
do you think veleck and seep live close enough to be within 80 miles? veleck and seep kissing together? little seep smoochi?

>>30345609
When did she announce it? We're speaking about Veleck, not the performer behind the character.

>>30345609
If Veleck has a boyfriend he is doing a fucking terrible job. No one in a relationship should be this horny and lonely on the internet

>>30345623
They don't live in the same country but theyre still pretty close.

>>30344657
https://youtube.com/channel/UCvfKU8LUmdPRTt42kSktkWQ

>>30345692
ireland and wales are pretty close. theres ferries. dont ruin this for her.

>>30344657
only one that comes to mind is the horse I see posted from time to time
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDoH-Xv1K-9U3frP6uzuXAA

>>30345647
>>30345609
https://streamable.com/f6foap
They all do this anon, come on, the character is lonely but the person isn't.

>>30345814
Funny that she STILL does some GFE in her reincarnation.

>>30345814
This will never not be funny and the mod's reply makes it even better

>>30345692
They live within the British Isles. If they wanted to /vsoc/ up they would've done it a long time ago.

>>30345814
Same for Rushia, all her regulars knew that the performer wasn't single it wasn't a secret but the separation character/performer is respected, until the vtuber actually makes such mistake breaking the immersion.

>>30345814
I think it might be a bad sign when your entire industry and culture hinges on no one ever saying the words “‘my boyfriend” and your career will collapse if you do

>>30345855
wait she already reincarnated? I must have missed that.

>>30345962
No, that's just for the vtubers who openly for this specific audience, many vtubers wouldn't be affected by this since they're focused on different type of entertainment.

>>30345937
I'm indie but I'd never used my chuuba discord to talk with my partner it's like the most basic rule to not mix up things. The fact one of the top earners of the industry couldn't bother to do this is beyond me.

>>30346009
How many vtubers openly talk about their relationships and are successful as compared to otherwise?

>>30345962
I don't think it would matter much, although I would love to see how a boyfriend reveal would affect some herechuubas ccv. Nina would probably lose the most while someone like Stalker or Mint would be almost unaffected.

>>30346095
>alker
>mint
>unaffected
Mint would suffer the blow of no longer getting to have their hag fantasies which is a big deal. Alker would be affected because imagine if it turned out Alker weren’t gold star hard gay lesbian. She’d have to have another Gosling Purge.

I get the feeling a lot of people (at least at the indie level) are as lonely as they let on and the ones that go full dumpling are in the minority, and people only assume otherwise because they're bitter and want to expect the worst out of everyone

>>30346206
I doubt it.

>>30346060
>be a standard vtuber
>get standard viewers
>be a standard vtuber that never mentions any hint of a boyfriend
>get standard viewers and also desperate virgins scavenging for crumbs of affection
>be a standard vtuber that is open about a boyfriend
>get standard viewers and no virgins
You can succeed without hiding a boyfriend because normal functional viewers are plentiful but hiding a boyfriend is seen by many as just "free viewers"

>>30346259
>he thinks I wouldn’t gosling for Alker if she were straight
Fool.

>>30346060
>>30346271
It doesn't really have much effect as long as you don't focus on GFE. But there is also rarely any reason to include this aspect in your content, there is no entertainment value.

But some do and even got a bigger audience after mentioning it :
https://twitter.com/himono_vtuber/status/1502890761490075648?t=yce9BIaVitVLBKCb4UDhzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQb60TWOXtA

>>30346271
>hiding
Here is the issue, it's not "hiding" to not mention it. We're talking about vtubers, content creators for entertainment, there is no expectation that the person's private life should be public by default

They can chose to mention private things but it's opt-in, there is 0 obligation to disclose your personal life.

>>30346239
>the worst out of everyone
so not being lonely is the worst? You want vtubers to be lonely? wtf

>>30346346
Yeah her fans were happy for her, after all they want the best for the vtuber they follow, wanting them to be miserable makes no sense.

>>30346465
Assume the worse as in they’re lying to them ESL-chama

>>30346465
as in they're lying about being lonely for the grift retardchama

>>30346430
>it's opt-in
This. It's creepy to read that not having your private life open and forced into your character is "hiding", just watch IRL streamers if you don't respect the character play.

>>30346520
>>30346563
How is it lying as long as they stay in character? The character isn't lying and you're watching it.
It only becomes "lying" if a mistake like shirara or rushia is made.

>>30344978
"uwu I'm so lonely and I'll fix this by posting bait on twitter" get some hobbies and stop being a fucking waste of space whose only hobby is talking about her bed and watching movies, there's no excuse for being a woman and not having a bf in this day and age when you have access to so many social events and groups
i hate some women so much it's unreal, love from Kazakhstan

>>30346430
I’m pretty certain the default is to talk about whatever you want, and adhering to a strict rule of privacy about your personal life is the thing you opt into. I don’t see any other form of streamer where never talking about your relationships is standard policy and anything different is a deviation. Let’s really not pretend like it isn’t abnormal. Mind you vtubing is by its nature kind of about hiding yourself, given you’re paying money to have a special facecam where no one can see your face. But that doesn’t mean we should accept it as normal or good that mentioning such an innocuous thing like your relationships is seen as weird and something you should accept will worsen your chance at success.

Especially not when that same field is one where, objectively, being a dude is a debuff.

>>30346239
>>30345962
I honestly wish my oshi would find a nice guy that supports her. It hurts to hear about how lonely she is sometimes. Streaming is nice but a chat doesnt replace person to person interactions.
No its not Veleck.

>>30346646
>any other form of streamer
But exactly yes, since this is VIRTUAL, it's vtubers, it's acting a character for entertainment, it's meant to not be the person themselves, it's what Vtubing is about.

>>30346656
Same I do wish this for everyone I watch, but maybe I'm biaised by not being single myself, it's hard not to want other people to live this kind of happiness.

>>30346568
I don't think anybody sane cares if a chuuba doesn't talk about their personal life, up to and including their relationships. Personally speaking I don't care if someone doesn't talk about their boyfriend/husband but acting like you're aggressively touch-starved when you do have somebody just comes across like you're trying to manipulate your audience.
>but muh character
you know as well as I do most vtubers outside of holo/niji are like 10% character 90% avatar, and even then it's like 50/50 at best. there's a difference between saying you live in magical fantasyland instead of saying you live in new york, and constantly tweeting about wanting a boyfriend when you have one.

>>30346623
don't use my oshi to cynicpost even when the ryona eyes are fitting for the context

>>30346768
>like 10% character 90% avatar
Then vtubing is dying.

>>30346568
>character play
Literally no one does that here aside Kongou and Lily. Vtubers doesn't seem to care when they talk about other aspects of their lives or past traumas and whatnot. Or those are part of their characters as well?

>>30346430
thing is that for most people having a boyfriend isn't "private" information like it's the 1800s, if you want to tell a story about your day and your boyfriend was present because he's your fucking boyfriend, intentionally voiding him from the story isn't "standard privacy" it's a very specific ploy to maintain an illusion of purity/singleness
>>30346698
if you still think an intrinsic, fundamental aspect of vtubing is in playing characters/having kayfabe then your head is deep in the sand

>>30346806
you don't have to like it, but either way that's an entirely different discussion from the one we're having right now

>>30346698
It’s honestly such a meme to act like vtubers are “playing a character.” Yeah maybe fucking Jones is doing that with his skeletor voice. But for the rest of them, again, it’s a facecam with no face. Oh yeah, she sometimes refers to her hands as “paws” when she tells a story about high school, totally kayfabe dude lol she’s totally roleplaying as a real dog girl. She’s got one sentence of “lore” in her bio, she’s a character yeah sure. If you wanted pure fiction you’d watch anime. You want some semblance of the real person, that’s the appeal, and the expectation that they’ll give you most of their authentic self but NOT the part where you can’t pretend she’s your anime gf anymore sucks. It is cope to pretend that’s not what’s going on here.

>>30346767
it's not cynicism, I'll translate in the simplest terms:
stop sitting on your ass and go out and get a bf you lazy slob

>>30346698
>it's acting a character for entertainment, it's meant to not be the person themselves
You are both correct and an idiot. If you watch a Lily Hops stream and someone asks how her day was, do you want her to answer some frog girl made up story about how she hopped around the pond and sang a lullaby for tadpoles or do you want her to actually tell how her day, the day of the person behind Lily Hops, was?

>>30346768
>>30346839
Those who are "10% character 90% avatar" aren't vtubers, just streamers with some anime picture.
I watch kitanya, lilyhops, koragi, kongou, jones, little_S (rip) and some JP chuubas, and I appreciate most are working on their character a lot.

>>30346568
Was Koopa and Spacer accidentally revealing that they're together in a room because of their voice tweet skit an opt in?

>>30346858
The fact that streamers hop in vtubing by adding slapping an anime model on their stream and calling it "vtubing" doesn't matter, they aren't really vtubers in the first place.

>>30347045
>accident
... it was literally an opt-in yes, it wasn't an accident

>he’s actually doing the “that’s not REEEEEEAL vtubing” thing
lol
as if even fuckin hololive or any of the earliest chuubas do/did that kind of thing

If you're a normal vtuber, don't talk about being in a relationship. If you slip up then it's whatever.
If you're a GFE vtuber, definitely don't talk about having an SO. If you slip up, you deserve to crash and burn, and forced to graduate.

It's that simple.

>>30346847
>>30346839
>>30346858
With streaming the idea is that you select specific parts of your life to add in your entertainment (often altering it to make it more interesting). The vtuber chose which elements they include, tailoring it for their content.

>>30347118
They were both dumbasses and didn't think things through before making the tweet.

>>30347207
Yeah I can agree on this, it's pretty cut and dry.

>>30347320
Still an opt-in.

Very incel in here today. Moreso than usual.

>Discussion about a certain aspect of vtubing
>Vtuber disagrees and calls everyone incels
Why are they like this?

>>30346858
Reading this is weird because personally I'd rather have the vtuber NOT mention their relationship, relationships aren't something entertaining, I don't care, I don't know this person,

I have no interest in hearing about them.
I don't want to date them either and watch more male chuubas than female, but beside very close friends, regular friends won't bother me with relationship talk either it'd be weird.

>>30346206
It literally wouldn't matter for either of them. Its not like they purposefully bait goslings.

>>30347537
Same, it's not something interesting, it would feel weird and uncalled for

>>30347378
fuck off faggot

>>30347506
I just think it’s the usual retarded bickering that always occurs at the end of a thread.

>>30347646
Is it cultural difference? Maybe American commonly talk about their private life to people they barely know? Personally I would be weirded out.

>>30347537
>>30347646
>>30347701
Saying relationships aren't entertaining is like saying school isn't entertaining. If something funny happens to them with their partner then it can become entertaining the same way that something funny happening in school can become entertaining.

>>30347701
I only talk about it to my family and very close friends, never outside of it, it'd be out of place and awkward.

>>30347537
Celebrities couples and babies is part of the entertainment industry. Deal with it.

>>30347537
Okay. So if someone is telling a story for the sake of entertainment, this story involves their boyfriend, then it would be strange to dodge around saying “my boyfriend,” right? Like that would be a sign they’re trying to avoid backlash. And you would agree it would suck if someone got backlash just for being in a relationship, yes? That would be a sign that something is wrong? I would consider you a fucking weirdo if I were talking to you and mentioned my relationship and you suddenly got pissed. So let’s not try to mystify and obscure the obvious fact here that vtubers are human beings and should not be expected by default to not mention these things.

>>30347857
>>30347239
>>30348013
https://twitter.com/ItsOokamin/status/1555743186923925509?s=20&t=FFWQOg73ylOaLzvpnTbpiQ
I see, so this is entertainment, amazing! I hope more do this!

>>30348091
awkward

>caring this much about other people being in relationships
Holy fucking shit who cares

>>30348091
western vtubing have led to some unfortunate results

>>30348091
>so this is entertainment
Yes you retard. You confirm my point by saying that. Its shitty entertainment but its still entertainment. Just because you dont like it that doesnt mean its not.

>>30348091
>>30348013
So this is what people wanna watch, I see, amazing.

>>30348091
why would anyone tweet something like this? what's next, "stream review of our DMs with my bf!"?

>>30348580
Apparently it's what vtubing is about, from what I'm getting

>this much insistence on how horrible it is to hear people talk about their relationships
This smell… this smell in the air… it smells like rebel…

>>30348634
Vtubing is about having fun. If making shitposts with your boyfriend is fun to you then yes, this is what vtubing is about.

>>30348382
Sex is also an important part of life and there are a lot of variety in what you can do and funny things that happen during it that you can mention.

I hope streamers stop hiding their sexual life constantly (it's dishonest to hide it), and mention how regularly they fucked last night!

>>30348710
He's still banned for a day I think

>>30348845
Yeah exactly, hiding your sexual activities is scummy

>>30348845
Pretty much, it takes a lot of time too so going "I'm a bit tired because uhh I had trouble sleeping last night" is dishonest, they should just say they had sex for too long and a short night

>>30348868
The amount of actual samefagging going on right now, just to bitterly seethe about other people being happy in front of him, tells me he’s ban evading.

I find it weird and kinda sad that the person arguing that it's fine to manipulate goslings by explicitly lying about your relationship status is so focused on shifting the argument to be about the quality of the content itself (with a blatantly cherrypicked example) rather than defending the ethical standpoint.

>>30348976
It just makes sense

>>30349045
>explicitly lying about your relationship
The vtuber isn't in a relationship, the performer maybe, but who care.

>>30349045
it's especially sad that they manipulate their viewers by lying and not talking about their sex life either, it's just pandering to puritans.

>>30349261
Yeah well we agree on that point

>>30349325
Glad we could come to an understanding.

Boyfriend yab?

I don't talk about my girlfriend and now I'm worried people are going to accuse me of hiding her.

>>30349261
Which vtubers don't hide their sexual life? I'm tired of liars.

>>30349470
>>30349475
Letania…

>>30349475
It's dishonest, if you talk about elements of your daily life but avoid talking about your girlfriend, you're manipulating everyone by lying to them every day.
You should be better than this.

I forgot how retarded this thread was lmao

>>30349592
Go out and touch some fucking grass

>>30349470
it's just one guy seething and replying to himself on cooldown (just look at post times)
>>30349475
not talking about something that isn't relevant to the stream isn't the same as acting like you're aggressively lonely to milk people with GFE, only schizos care about the former while the latter naturally upsets people that think you're being manipulative.

>>30349475
You ARE hiding her yes, stop being manipulative, it's disrespectful of your viewers

>>30349592
That's what you're doing. Every single day, lying to your viewers. I'm not sure how you can live with yourself.

>he’s turned “streamers shouldn’t be afraid to mention their partners” into “SO YOU THINK VTUBERS SHOULD BE SUCKING AND FUCKING BIG COCK RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME??”
>and is samefagging himself into oblivion over it
Okay yeah it’s r*bel, his cuck insecurities are leaking again, LMAO. Start talking about male collabs and bunzel next.

>>30349791
There is a balance you see. Now that Rin has won Rebelearthsky needs to up his game and Win here.

Remember Leon and Alice?

>>30349791
I love male collabs but I wish they didn't awkwardly avoid sharing their dating life, there's nothing more fun than 2 guys talking about their gfs (especially bunzel and his harem of 300 vtubers)

>>30349791
I haven't been keeping up with him. His AI developed a personality?
This is a bit of a worn out topic in any case. I don't know why anyone even bites the bait.

Which chuubas should improve and lean into their Kayfabe more?

>>30349875
I know Leon but who is the other person?

>>30349985
All of them

>>30349994
Alice got Stalinized...

>>30349985
Every single one, aside from Lily/Kongou/Africat/Jones/etc. who are already doing it.

>>30349985
I would say "which streamers should become chuubas and lean into their Kayfabe" is more correct.

>>30349791
It's not a completely stupid point, because where is the cut-off?
Someone made the argument that not mentioning your boyfriend is lying/hiding it since it's part of your daily life and not something private (debatable). But then where is the limit, your sex life (casual hook ups or with lover) is also an important part of your daily life and affect your mood and many other things. It's not like friends never talk about their sex life either.
So avoiding the topic is hiding your sex life.

It shows it's not such a clear cut situation and that not mentioning elements of your private life isn't the same as "hiding/lying", it even depends on cultures.

>>30349791
>>30346847
My hemorrhoids are affecting my life constantly, I apologize for hiding it and lying to my viewers about it. I didn't realize how much of a betrayal it was to not tell my viewers about it in stream.

>>30349875
They were from a simpler time

>>30350770
sloth... setup a donothon to funds the treatment

>>30350856
You already have the trashcan just for yourself finn, stay there

>>30350838
he was much more accessible in his early days and mentioned things about his regular viewers, I guess it changed

>>30349791
>and is samefagging himself into oblivion over it
Every day at the same time

>>30350929
?? I just care for her health

>>30350929
I thought he disliked her, why would he want her to get money? Donothons are useful

>>30350838
Based, with the exception of vtubers of course, theyre ok to parasocial.
When youre as edgy as him youre bound to attract edgelord creeps who try to one up one another and feel at home being awful just because you said the letter N that one time. No surprise he'd get tired of it.

>>30350838
Pretty sure my oshi wants to say that but she doesn't have the balls to do so.

lots of shameless whores in this thread

>>30350929
>>30350856
>>30350856
It's just the normal thing to do.

>>30351219
Wtf

>>30351219
>Any donation will help me & my family a lot
which family?

>>30351219
I'm glad T4n3 didn't do this.

>>30347378
After back desk finally burnt to the ground the lesser schizos had to go somewhere.

LIVE NOW

Job Sim Monday is finally making a proper return.
Today's workplace: an entirely legal medical care provider where we concoct cures with whatever the fuck we find in our backyard

twitch.tv/calebhorusvt

>>30351219
>>30350856
I think I'm gonna have family dying, house moving and pets having cancer every other week it seems pretty profitable!

>>30352029
She even did this 10K donothon just after her debut, with <100 viewers, yet it worked.

Nade doing a drawing stream.

https://www.twitch.tv/nadechama

>>30338759
Still stalking. He is going through her art tag and likes tweets from over a year ago.

>>30352759
prayin 4 ur oshi brother

>>30352759
Dont lose track, keep on his toes anon!
I also tracked one such suspicious spender, thankfully he came out harmless.

>>30345764
>>30344657
>Tomoe
>Consistency
Surely from now on...

>>30352759
if this isn't dogdoko concernfriending over koragi's new oil baron i'll eat my hat

>>30354524
>>30352759
If so, while I understand the feeling, you should know that Koragi is far from stupid, and able to handle even someone creepy. Her vtuber character may seem vulnerable and innocent but she's smart.

>>30354728
She get all embarrassed at any mention of romance, she would be helpless if some creepy oil baron start hanging around.

>>30354951
https://streamable.com/4n4b8p

>>30354524
>koragi's new oil baron
I watch her pretty consistently and outside of a throne gift and like one $10 donation I haven't seen anything remotely resembling an oil baron so I dunno what you're on about
either way she's some hopeless child (despite how some people treat her, for some reason) I'm sure she can handle whatever comes her way

>>30354524
>koragi's new oil baron
I watch her pretty consistently and outside of a throne gift and like one $10 donation I haven't seen anything remotely resembling an oil baron so I dunno what you're on about
either way she's not some hopeless child (despite how some people treat her, for some reason) I'm sure she can handle whatever comes her way

>>30355146
>either way she's some hopeless child
anon, how could you say this

you WILL become a kemonodachi and you will like it (you actually will its fun)

>>30328183
what’s your @ on twitter?

>>30355226
I was gone on Saturday so I didn't see it but apparently on her last stream someone dropped a big dono(?) and bought some stuff from her throne. some random cryptobro liked a bunch of edits and animations that I've made on her art tag from months ago, so I'm assuming it's him

also >>30354728
is right, she's an adult who has experience in handling shitters, so you don't have to be too worried

>>30355602
I like this dog but my heart belongs to another. Do really enjoy the guitar streams though.