/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30228098
>starts streaming sounding
based

I forgive her because she is cute.

>>30228098
SHE LITERALLY DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE SONG I CAN'T

I forgive her because the stream was hilarious

Where are all the faggots who constantly rank Gura as one of the top 3 singers in the entire company? This is rank amateur hour on primetime hour.

>>30228098
The lack of effort Gura is putting in to her job even for shill streams where she's accountable to the sponsor is concerning. Imaging paying her to advertise your product and getting this half assed garbage

Shork...You need to do your job properly you can't just NEET it up all day and skip streams forever

Forgetting everything about the stupid shit you have to shill is based

>>30228098
Well we all knew her capture card has been shitting itself for months now, if anything you can criticize her for knowing that and not getting a spare one in case her current one shit itself like it did

>>30228098
Why are you people always saying, thinking, even hoping for 'X' chuuba to graduate. Do you guys even like vtubers, like what's the point of it? Don't think you can write it off as "muh shitposting" or "its not serious u guys were just memeing :(", I see you guys rrating out way too often for it to just be a meme by this point.

>>30228098
I forgive her because i'm a yes man

>>30228098
If this chart is of any indication, although Gura isn't up there with some of the members that have streamed the most, she's actually not that bad like people are saying she is. At least she's streamed more or just as much as some of the members that have been around before her or at a similar time to her, examples being:
>Ina
>Nene
>Mel
>Suisei
>Risu
>AZKi
>Iofi
There are of course some factors that coud've affected those members (like the infamous Mel's stalker) but my point is that Gura gets singled out a bit too much

and she still got more money than Kiara for this

Stop supporting lazy people.

>>30228832
No, I'm being genuine when I say I think she's going to graduate soon.

I'm not saying the whole "SHE'S HEADING TO VSHOJO GUYS" thing, I honestly think she's just sick of vtubing in general and is desperate to move on.

>>30228962
As if /vt/ is gonna listen to some anon, lawl

>>30228950
You should compare EN to EN, and Ina has a full time job, still streamed more than Gura

>>30228098
the only one who's graduating is you from life faggot

>>30228773
>Actually being a retard who doesn't put in any effort and relies on naive simps to prop you up is based!!
Trying the old KFP strategy of saying that being a huge piece of shit is actually based I see

>>30228950
Those you have mentioned have side jobs, something that Gura doesn't have if i recall it correctly. She has no excuse for not streaming and ghosting her audience.

>>30229017
Even though she said on stream that she had never thought about graduating. Is it really so hard to believe that someone might be a bit burnt out or in a slump, but won't just up and quit their job because of that?

>>30228950
>Ina
>took a sheduled 1-2 months off
>has a real job outside of Hololive
>still streamed more than the shork
Not really helping your case, anon.

Teacuck deflection thread. This isn't the improvement your oshi wanted

I assume what she expected from Hololive was fucking around in minecraft with Aqua and Shion but both these girls died shortly after she debuted.

>>30228098
She won't be throwing away easy money, and she can't do anything else, she's going the Ayame route of streaming once in a blue moon.

>>30229180
>You should compare EN to EN
It's true to that she's the member who has streamed the less on EN (except for Sana), but compared to the rest of the company she's not that bad
>Ina has a full time job, still streamed more than Gura
If Gura is to be believed, she has stuff to do ordered by the company. Probably not as heavy as Ina's job, but still to consider

>>30228098
She is literally EN Ayame, just streams to get her paycheck, then leaves to get pounded by her boyfriend all day

>>30229017
yet this is the complete opposite of what she has said, when she talks about how she has been working hard for us on exciting things outside of her comfort zone and how she can't wait for us to start seeing what she's been up to

Fucking over an advertiser is based. But just because something is based doesnt mean its actually helpful. she absolutely fucking sucked LOL RIP future opportunities

She's not going to graduate because she gets free money from her 20,000 members you retard. At 5 bucks a piece she's making 100k a month. Literally no reason to ever quit.

>>30228832
Gura always has a bunch of jealous roasties cursing her everyday since the day she becomes no.1. Nothing new here

>>30228950
Anon you do realize the complaints are about now and the last year of her not giving a shit? Not her entire career? Regardless, Mel, Nene, Risu and Ina have had multiple month long hiatuses kek

So this song clearly wasn't the "project" she's been working on

>>30228098
Mumei sisters stay winning

>>30228098
AND SHE CALLS HERSELF AN IDOL

>>30229571
>LOL RIP future opportunities
This is what she wants. If she's not contractually obliged to stream, then she won't do it. Back to 1 stream a week (if her capture card doesn't magically break again)

>hololive has 0 EN streaming
>nijisanji has 8 EN streaming
>phase has 2 EN streaming

hololive is the laziest corporation

>>30229587
She'll become the EN Ayame then

We'll see you chumpedos over in /VSJ+/ soon

gura has also complained about projects getting cancelled, she's pretty much fed up with hololive and is just going to keep phoning it in as revenge

>>30229651
Each of Mel's periods are quite easily explainable though.

>>30228098
She will never graduate retard.
Why would she pass the opportunity to make more than six figures and not putting a single effort into her work? I would never leave too. Easy life.

>>30229569
>she can't wait for us to start seeing what she's been up to

Anon, she has been saying this for the last several months. At what point do we just accept that she's just making excuses?

Kindly neck yourselves Barracudas

>>30229756
blue man is streaming

>>30229756
I blame management for containing the boys, they would make all the HoloEN whores look pathetic

>>30229304
Probably Cover mandated stuff, I can't know of course
>>30229388
>>30229651
Didn't Gura have hiatuses too?
I think the difference is that she takes them more sporadically

I used to like her alot in 2020 but she is slowly going towards the ayame route. Its over, time to move on to other vtubers who love streaming.

>>30229756
Which is fucking amazing considering how everyone always says they overwork their chuubas. I don't see how anyone can think that considering how little work they actually do.

>>30229838
The point is that they have had hiatuses and they still have more streaming hours than Gura

>>30228748
She's great when she tries. Which is basically never nowadays. Last time was her Creep karaoke (four months ago!)

why should she care? other than enjoying the thousands of love and attention whenever she wants, shes getting big monies eitherway

>>30229867
when she stops saying it and quits like you say she will?

>>30229930
sure they do, that's why they were stuck in two view hell before right?

>>30229867
can't for her to give us the 'bad news' that the project got cancelled and we'll literally never see any part of the parts that were completed. lol the excuses write themselves

Was that Gura's worst stream? I couldn't believe what I was seeing

>>30229942
>I think the difference is that she takes them more sporadically
Gura just blows off streams randomly and makes up an excuse like she's "sick". Reminder that Gura has made a tweet about cancelling a stream because she's sick every single month this year. Nobody gets sick that often. If she had a real job and was taking 2-3 days off every month she'd have been called out on it months ago.

>>30229752
just unfortunate it'll fuck the other girl's opportunities as well, why deal with an unprofessional company?

>>30230019
Anon, the only one there who has more streaming hours than Gura is Ina, I could've included Shion too now that I realize
I really think you forget the shark has taken breaks too but you get more annoyed by it because they're way more sporadic

Man, everyone in this thread is seething and rent free over a shill stream. You guys are really looking pretty pathetic.

>>30230091
So she's only in it for the money?

Mori may be an alcoholic whore, but she is an alcoholic whore working two full careers and yet she still streams more than Gura and for longer. Gura has no excuse.

>>30230175
So she can just show up once a month to do the most low-effort stream you've ever seen, and you'll keep believing she's seriously working on stuff behind the scenes? Come on...

>>30230319
cope harder chumbud

>>30228832
>Why are you people always saying, thinking, even hoping for 'X' chuuba to graduate.
Gura's behavior seems like the behavior of someone with one foot out the door. Her graduation would be a huge fucking deal in the vtuber scene it's naturally going to be a topic of conversation here.

>>30230196
What does that have to do with streaming hours?
Your whores hate you, they only stream to get your money then they turn off the stream and go suck on 7 dicks at once, that's why they don't even care enough to stream more than a couple times a week.

>>30230328
in the end, its all about work ethic. i can respect a whore who hustles over a dumb fuck who's lazy.

>>30229942
>Probably Cover mandated stuff, I can't know of course
Well we do know that it's nothing that produces something her fans can enjoy. No choreography lessons, no singing lessons, no hologra, no ad appearances, no in person meetings, no songs. Doesn't even fucking stream. How can you come up with an excuse for this?

AAAAAAAAAA I LOVE GURA!

>>30230319
Ah, yes, because this particular stream is the first time ever she has shown that she gives 0 shits right? It's not like she regularly disappears for an entire week without saying absolutely anything.

>>30230269
I'm not the one to know what's going on behind the scenes, but:
>Nobody gets sick that often. If she had a real job and was taking 2-3 days off every month she'd have been called out on it months ago
Several JPs (Pekora, Marine and Korone come to mind) had to take obligatory hiatuses because they were destroying themselves over streaming. Once again, if Gura says the true it might be for the best unless you want to see her again in 3 months instead of a week

>>30230563
No, anon, she's totally working on a lot of stuff. She's actually working so hard that she can't even spare the time to show previews of the stuff she's doing. You wouldn't understand

t. coping chumbud

>>30230563
>How can you come up with an excuse for this?
Aren't we having UMISEA soon?

>>30230692
The difference between Pekora, Marine, and Korone is that they actually streamed so much that when they then said "I got sick from overworking" you could actually believe it.

Gura shows up once a month, reminds her chumbuds that she exists, and then leaves saying "btw I'm sick, bye!"

>>30228098
burnout, many such cases.

>>30230328
Why does EN not have a single Pekora/Miko/Koyori/etc? Someone that streams regularly and that is good to watch. Why does the hardest working member have to be an obnoxious cringelord yab machine that is high on lean half the time?

>>30230835
She works extremely hard. I'm not surprised she's burnt out. She's probably one of the hardest working people in EN.

>>30230692
Please don't compare Gura to JPs that have actual work ethic. Unlike Gura those three names do a lot of shit behind the scenes and actually have content to show for it unlike Gura who is constantly doing "recordings" and yet somehow only has one original song and 3-4 covers after two years.

>>30230726
Damn, they must have allocated her to the same project as Ayame. Must be tough for the shark.

>>30230782
>the UMISEA member that streams the most is unironically Ina

>>30230993
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30230864
Kiara doesn´t do lean

>>30230864
In fairness, Mori seems to be addicted to work given her background and also she has her music career as something to keep her going. Her time in Japan probably got her used to a work schedule there.

>>30228832
A lot of us have been correct when we predict someone is graduating, I predicted sana a long time ago, there's a legendary post from a guy who predicted coco graduating and getting 100 {You)'s

>>30231164
I forget that the chicken exists because she streams on terrible hours

>>30230612
>called out for seething
>continues seething

>>30231184
everyone could predict Sana, that is not an accomplishment

>>30231306
>called out for coping
>continues coping

>>30231341
Man when even the youtube comments are feeling weirded out you know it was bad.

>>30228098
>>Canceled stream yesterday because "she TOTALLY broke her capture card"

confirmed greynigger. Keep seething

>>30230832
Eveyone's build different anon. Once again, I can't know what's happening but there's the possibility has a fragile body (I if I'm not wrong Shion is a similar case alongside with having chronic depression)
>>30231031
What makes you believe that Gura doesn't do stuff behind the scenes too? You can criticize her lack of produced content if that's what you expect from her, but she's also appeared in several sponsorships so there's obviously background stuff going on

She's taking her position as queen of EN for granted.
She won't be toppled any time soon, but this attitude will begin a slow decay. It won't end well for her.

>>30228098
i guess she is hitting the bottle anon

Unironically this stream has made me give up on HoloEN as a whole. I'm just going to stick to other corpos now.

>>30231341
yea, that's definitely a sign it was a poor stream for her.

EN overall is just so fucking lazy, like Kiara is the only one who really streams frequently at all. Embrace members who actually care about streaming like Pekora or Koyori

>>30230269
I’m sorry. I’m 9” and she’s tiny, so when we do deepthroat, she can barely speak the next day. I try telling her she doesn’t have to, but she says she needs to feel my balls on her chin at least once a month.

>>30231459
>What makes you believe that Gura doesn't do stuff behind the scenes too?
Because she has nothing to show for it. Show me the stuff Gura has been working on and I'll show you a Holo who had outputted twice that and streamed more as well.

>>30231459
>What makes you believe that Gura doesn't do stuff behind the scenes too?

The fact that we have seen literally, LITERALLY, no sign of it.

Marine: takes a break, comes back with a banger MV
Korone: takes a break, comes back with a whole ass Sonic sponsorship with IRLs.
Calli: takes a break, comes back with a whole new album

Gura: takes a break, comes back just to tell us she's taking a break again

>>30230864
Kiara is the hardest working member of EN and it's not even close, mori does jack shit in her music production anymore
The reason why all the girls say she is so busy is because of any time they ask if she wants to collab, mori is busy getting her fat body in a state to do live performances, which constantly fails due to eating like shit and drinking more alcohol than a homeless man
When she's not doing that, she's doing roommate shit that no one is interested in, so it's doubly why the girls say she overworks herself, no shit she does, but none of it is of any value that actually matters

>>30231459
What work is she doing behind the scenes if she doesn't put out any fucking content? What is this "work"? The 3 girls mentioned do a lot of shit behind the scenes, they have shit to show for it. On top of that all 3 of those JP girls were literally forced into breaks due to health related issues because they were streaming too fucking much.

>>30231604
Dramaniggers always demand for more. Also KYS

>>30228161
what does this mean

>>30231625
Why don't you see how many JPs streamed less than the average EN last month

>>30231845
Kys graynigger. She already said it yesterday but of course shcizos like you just want drama

>>30228161
do you mean what I think you meant?

>>30231853
>Kiara is the hardest working member of EN
Proof that natural talent > hard work.

>>30231541
Or maybe you should Neck yourself

>>30231860
watson spends half her time doing tech support and setting shit up for her gen mates, and still manages to stream more than gura. she better be putting out a whole-ass visual novel or VR sex experience with all this 'work' she's doing, and not just some fucking music video

>>30231395
I had a lot of angry sanalites tell me I was a heartless, sociopathic piece of garbage who has to go touch grass and move out of my third world non white shithole country because I told them that a japanese company will not keep an employee that takes 3 weeks off for an old dog that passed away from natural causes because she is getting paid vacation time for it

Maybe we are wrong. Maybe we should be thankful to Alice Project for forcing Gura to stream.

Dealing with omegatranny's faggot bullshit every day is probably draining her energy.
I hope he dies.

Gura will become the new spoony one.

>>30229543
>If Gura is to be believed, she has stuff to do ordered by the company.
I'm stuff.

>>30232075
Dude, anyone can say they are working on stuff. She’s been“working on stuff” for the past three months. Nothing to show for it. All Hololive members are constantly working on stuff and still stream. It’s literally their job.

>>30232231
I still don't believe that the length of that break was all just Sana being sad, it's just too unreasonable. At least a few weeks must have been because of COVID related travel restrictions in Australia.

>>30228748
She's an amateur, but her singing isn't.

>>30229543
>If Gura is to be believed
Read Aquas membership post
>b-but I'm an a-anti i dont h-have it!
Not my issue

>>30232360
Kys graynigger. She work harder but fucking pathetic grays want drama and hate against her

>>30232287
>women can do no wrong so holoEN fans had to turned the manager who tweeted an annoying thing a few times into a literal boogeyman to cope

>>30232391
It most likely was, the issue is she could have made content in the interim, small videos, silent art streams/commissioned stuff like what some of the other girls do

She just let her channel die, while all the sanallites blamed youtube and racism, she just didn't care about entertaining

>>30232075
Gura can say she's working on stuff as much as she wants, only delusional cumbuds will believe her until she actually has something to show. This isn't even the first time this has happened, you're too new to know but "Big plans" was a Watame meme for a long time because she kept talking about her big plans but did nothing but spam Minecraft for months on end.

>>30229379
>>30229569
>Even though she said on stream that she had never thought about graduating
people who arent thinking of graduating dont keep repeating that theyre "not planning on graduating"
if shes burnt out long enough shes going to quit
and shes the type of person who wants to be at the forefront of internet culture, vtubing doesnt have the same energy as the early days, its basically mainstream now (insofar as everyone on the internet knows what vtubing is)

on the other hand tho i think gura realises that going back to being an unemployed neet is not an option given the income shes getting now
i think she can stand being burnt out for a long time as long as she has no other option
so as long as theres no new thing in internet culture after vtubing, and theres no other option for her for similar income, shes going to keep vtubing

>>30232673
>/vt/ thinks omegatranny is dead
>/vt/ calls me a schizo for complaining about him
>omegatranny comes back to cripple Tempus and EN with his faggotry once again
Seethe. He is the antichrist of hololive.

>>30232908
Like I said kys and find drama in you pathetic miserable life

>>30231755
>>30231845
>>30231860
Fair enough, but I actually believe she has stuff to do in the very background. Fucking Cover made her a real life sized statue, so it wouldn't be far off to say she's kind of their golden goose
Reminds me of Ayame, Cover doesn't care about how much she streams as long as she brings in the bucks through sponsorship
That said, if you are mad about her being silent about stuff, that's fair I guess
>>30232512
I'm not an anti, I'm just a bored retard arguing stuff. I expected her to work on UMISEA

>>30228950
>kiara's total is almost 2x gura's
holy fuck

>>30233178
She worked in JP for years. She’s basically an honorary JP. It’s why her and Calli are different from the rest of the western girls

>>30228950
damn, Watame being that high despite the 4th gen debut is impressive, same with Kiara being that high from EN1

>>30228098
Gura is basically a walking corpo mascot and that's her job. It's your fault seeing her as an actual content creator and hoping something kino from her rumao.

>>30233679
The thing is, 2020/2021 Gura was unironically kino. If she had always been this lazy, I wouldn't give a shit, but the fall from grace is just sad to see.

>>30232391
you're right it wasn't her being sad. it was her being a lazy piece of shit cunt that doesn't want to be a streamer.

>>30232287
>i-i-its managements fault!

>>30228962
this
>>30229130
then they get what they deserve. A whore who fucks her bf behind the scenes while collecting from her paypigs. Whether you pay or not, you're getting the bare minimum from here. Little by little, you hope some of these sharpedos wake up, but you can't underestimate stupidity when it comes to peoples' disposable income.

>>30228950
>kobo deserves succ-

>>30233770
>but the fall from grace is just sad to see
You just can't accept that she works and the only thing in You shitty brain is lazy and do a fucking drama.
>Everyone works a lot excpet gura, she doesn't deserve anything, why she so popular?
Fucking brain of schizos, grayniggers and dramaniggers. You all just hate her to the core
JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELF ALREADY IN YOU FUCKING SHITHOLE LIFE AND NEVER GO BACK JUST FUCKING. DIEEEEEEEEEEE ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!

>>30233770
I feel like you don't watch her, she's always been like this but it just became noticeable to you the last month or two
You can go to Holodex and check it out

>>30230296
They still have Kiara, Ina and Mori in Myth
>But muh numbers
Sega asked for Kiara to shill one of their games despite her numbers
There are sponsors out there who are not huge numberfags and want actual shilling of their products instead of high viewership.

>>30234392
>she works

Really? Where? When? How?

>>30234509
her job?

>>30234440
There's a comment under her video going "I miss 2020/2021 Gura" that has a 3 months membership. 3 months. I bet it's the same fag you're replying to.

>>30228161

>>30234629
Well, her job is content creation, and she barely does that so yeah.

>>30233770
Just move on to others anon, Gura has done great as a basic level for beginners. Found out who cater to your niche and following them. I want back to watch HoloJP and sometime checking out new guys in Tempus if I have time.

>>30234392
I have to assuming you are larping as a yesman. But just in case I am wrong. Your argument fails apart when you compare Gura to literally the rest of Hololive and Holostars for that matter. They ALL do work behind the scenes, constantly. They all have shit to show for it. Gura does not and has never.

>>30234509
you work dramanigers, you have a job? Something in you shitty life that use to pay taxes. You work and kys

>>30234483
do you think suits are gonna bother to learn the names of individual girls? they deal with companies, half-assing it reflects badly on the entire company (not just EN)

>>30234766
Your job is typing and do drama. You could also kys already

>>30234392
>he thinks this message makes gura and her fans look good

>>30234809
Gura has an outside job now? Guess that explains why she hasn't had much time to stream or produce other content.

>>30234797
NO SIR your argument is just make drama and barking with anything else to do. You can just kys

>>30234968
>>30234926
Nijinnigers as always. They the bug of /vt/

>>30235171
Literally rent-free KEK

>>30228832
everyone should graduate except my oshi and her friends

>>30235270
Gura always living rent free in them. Always

>>30231341
>all those ass kissers in the comments
This is why the chuubas get away with this.

>>30235598
>>30235171
>They the bug of /vt/
Why do SEAs think the biggest own in the world is to call other people SEA

>>30229756
Kaela is the best EN member

>>30235919
Why nijinniggers are bark everything gura stream. I wish to know

>>30235058
Oh okay, larping it is then. No, I get it my dude. I too like to have fun once in awhile. I know how fun it can be. Carry on.

>>30232026
putting objects in your peehole

>>30231341
Not a good sign when YouTube shitposters start getting their comments liked more.
Gura needs to be more transparent with why she’s streaming less to her fans or this shit will only get worse.

>>30228582

>>30228098
I'm getting this impression too, and I'm more sad than anything else t b h. It just sucks. I like Gura. I wished she enjoyed streaming as much as everyone enjoys watching her stream.

>>30228098
Maybe she's just tired of her chumbuds