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TALLYDWARF BTFOTHIS IS NOW ELF APPRECIATION THREAD
>>30195163I will not let Flare down
>>30195105oh great, flare OP, now people won't use this thread.
>>30195105REAL PREVIOUS THREAD >>30195060*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
/news/ roundup for 05-08-2022>>30109821 Recent Clip numbers>>30180226 >>30180263 >>30180352 >>30180385
why won't you faggots let old unused threads die ffs
>>30201461might as well use it since old one is dying any minute
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>65,353: Flare (Hololive)>46,426: Subaru (Hololive)>46,096: Hayato (Nijisanji)>44,464: Lize (Nijisanji)>43,051: Shiina (Nijisanji)>39,640: Salome (Nijisanji)>37,059: Marine (Hololive)>35,130: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>29,925: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>26,914: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>23,269: Subaru (Hololive)>20,455: VSPO (VSPO)>19,128: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>18,312: Miko (Hololive)>17,984: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,511: Nene (Hololive)>13,268: Towa (Hololive)>12,758: Fauna (Hololive)>12,711: Noel (Hololive)>12,229: Moona (Hololive)>12,133: Botan (Hololive)>11,611: Iroha (Hololive)>11,433: Flare (Hololive)>10,626: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,388: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,353: Koyori (Hololive)>10,041: Kiara (Hololive)
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>12,588: Fauna (Hololive)>10,677: Luca (Nochairsanji)>10,078: Kiara (Hololive)>8,888: Fauna (Hololive)>7,875; Pomu (Nochairsanji)>6,361: Mysta (Nochairsanji)>6,163: Petra (Nochairsanji)>5,985; Magni (Hololive)>5,788: Noir (Hololive)>5,436: Noir (Hololive)>5,333: Uki (Nochairsanji)
>>30201737>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526 - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Flare, Fuwa, Kuzuha, Lain, Miko, Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY136x: Hololive72x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER24x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome15x: Kuzuha14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>30201737>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526 - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive2x :Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Flare, Fuwa, Kuzuha, Lain, Miko, Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY136x: Hololive72x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER24x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome15x: Kuzuha14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Ibrahim,Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
This defeats the nijinigger narratives
>>30201975lol retard
>>30202037We going to compare the two con photos again? I love timeloops
>>30201737>REAL AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526 - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Flare, Fuwa, Kuzuha, Lain, Miko, Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY137x: Hololive71x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER24x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome15x: Kuzuha14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, ZetaIGNORE THE NIGGER ABOVE
>>30199781post lewds
>>30202130>>30201871>2 different untampered tallies/#/ is healing
>>30201871>>302021302 Heretic Tallys. Z Worship is against the # truth.
>>30193452I swear to god! What the fuck is wrong with this bitch!? Why is she so obsessed with pomu?
>>30202130are you going to embarrass yourself a third time or did you just give up?
>>30201871>>30202130>>30202319Not including an explicit note about Fuwa's fucked up chart like the JOP numberfags do is just as egregious as not counting itHe should have the daily win, but with an asterisk
>>30202375>projectingSorry ENsharts we don't make up numbers here in /#/
Anything new planned from Cover or AC for Crunchyroll Expo?
Do we have a breakdown of where Tempus's audience came from
>>30202811males mostly
>>30202130>IGNORE THE NIGGER ABOVE>exactly the same as the nigger above but with one annual gold transfered from niji to holow-what did he mean by this
>>30202811Overlap in their last streams:Mag: 63% HoloEN, 34% HoloID, 26% NijiENNowa: 73% HoloEN, 41% HoloID, 27% NijiENAxel: 59% HoloEN, 34% HoloID, 34% NijiENRegis: 61% HoloEN, 39% HoloID, 33% NijiEN
SC predictions>Nowa 10k>Magni 10k>Axel 7k>Regi 5k
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1555973887086563329Kobo playing MC off stream again
OLD THREADOLD THREADOLD THREAD
RECYCLE
>>30203267shes trying to finish her part of the id project i assume
>>30203112they are both illiterate revisionist niggers posting antiquated tallys with fake scores. Anyone putting Fuwa on there after he has been disavowed twice by authoritative sources is a delusional mong.
>>30203321shut up vstats admin, stop letting 5ch using your shitty site for their tallies get to your head
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Pekora1x: Flare, Kuzuha, Lain, Miko, Pekora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY137x: Hololive71x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER25x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome15x: Kuzuha14x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Kanata4x: Flare, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Fuwa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>30203232seems about right
>>30203232is this yen, CCV or USD kek?
>>30203436ccv
>>30203383>Noel gets to eat this whenever she wantsLife is not fair bros ...
>>30201871>>30202130Kon kon kitsune Fuwa-tan!
>>30201737SILVER>1) 71,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>2) 59,997: Maimoto (Nijisanji) Niji Koshien>3) 45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Niji radio calisthenic>4) 42,896: Pekora (Hololive) RUST*>5) 61,209: Pekora (Hololive) 2 Million subscribers>6) 46,426: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden> PER COMPANY3x: Nijisanji3x: Hololive> PER STREAMER2x: Pekora1x: Kuzuha, Maimoto, Fuwa, SubaruI demand only the finest of coffee lewds until the next tally.
>>30203232I feel like Regi is going to be one of those with low CCV but insanely dedicated fans later down the line.
>>302032328k8k7k5k
>>30203420fake and gay
grim
>>30203420SIR, PLEASE DON'T TAMPER THE NUMBER
>>30203420Thank you anon
>>30203420
>>30202130>>30201871fuck this spammers>>30203420based medal anon
>>30203436USD, I was trying to be nice.
Why is there so much seething today?Is it because LazuLight not only got 3D but got it in less time from debut compared to Myth?Just because you holoniggers tried to push the narrative that Luxiem would get 3D before LazuLight and got humiliated yet again?It's just anime girls and boys moving around.You don't have to take it that seriously.Cheer up!
>>30203420Wheres the non tampered medals?
>>30203420based
>>30203695chill out sister
>>30203695Literally no one cares about lazulight
>>30203705Here anon >>30202130
Have we ever done an over/under betting pool for recent indie graduations to become Holo or Niji members? I'd be interested to see where consensus odds would land for different streamers if you let these threads try and determine which were actually the most likely or least likely to be hired.
>>3020369530 M I N U T E S
>>30203695Take a seat so we can discuss some actual mindshare.
>>30203759The funny thing is that guy still lists the daily totals as 137 for Hololive
>>30203420Based
>>30203695Say that again without sobbing in the floor of the CR Expo
>>30203695
>>30203768I feel like everyone on /vt/ already does this to some degree already
>>30203420Does this one count July 14's gold as Ibrahim's or Pekora?
>>30203768those are done offsite in the usual sites both nongambling and gambling version since it also entails doxxing
>>30203812yeah, he's clearly a falseflagger
>>30203695lole
this Z thing is kinda like tripping in smash bros, huh
>>30203826I'm talking more full-on, Vegas-styled odds rather than just speculation.>>30203839>only option is to trawl through the doxxsitesShit, ah well.
>>30201247news for today was posted already >>30195919
>>30203821don't put niji's logo on migo, that's fucked up
>>30203927Its pretty hard to do that vegas style odds without some form of doxx.
>>30203781I propose the new name Nijisquatters
>>30203881It's the 2021 Formula 1 seasonThe official record isn't going to change even though everyone knows the outcome only happened because the officiating was terrible
>>30203420the funny thing is that all of you fags who do this are too lazy to "fix" anything but the most recent gold you're mad about so you just acknowledged that ibrahim won the 14th last month after you were bitterly disputing it not even a week ago, next month you'll get a new gold to fight over and the cycle will continue
>>30203705this one >>30201871
>>30203695It's HALschizo trying a new angle (and failing miserably).
>>30204090because im using the after july z rule, another anon is using the pre july z rule
>>30204090Wdym? Some of us agreed that we implement the new rule after july.
>>30204061Max won that fair and square, jury/officials are there to call shots for contention and are part of the game
*FINAL HOLOLIVE TALLY OF THE DAY*>65,353: Flare (Gen 3)>46,426: Subaru (Gen 2)>37,059: Marine (Gen 3)>23,269: Subaru (Gen 2)>18,312: Miko (Gen 0)>17,984: Fubuki (Gen 1)>13,511: Nene (Gen 5)>13,268: Towa (Gen 4)>12,758: Fauna (Council)>12,711: Noel (Gen 3)>12,229: Moona (ID1)>12,133: Botan (Gen 5)>11,611: Iroha (Gen 6)>11,433: Flare (Gen 3)>10,353: Koyori (Gen 6)>10,041: Kiara (Myth)>AUGUST HOLO GOLD1) Miko: 114,404 (Anniversary 3D Live)2) Pekora: 62,664 (Yokai Watch)3) Pekora: 32,993 (RUST)4) Pekora: 42,889 (RUST)5) Pekora: 61,209 (2M subs)6) Flare: 65,353 (Gen 3 collab)>PER GEN5x Gen 31x Gen 0>PER HOLO4x Pekora1x Miko1x Flare
>>30204116halschizo was autistic and dedicated enough to his cause to highjack ops and spam constantly for hours, these fags are just pale imitations
>>30204140>>30204208>weAlso Miko had a Z on her first gold of the month. Any peaks after the Z is as invalid as the Z peak
Tempus- MonetizationKiara- Already StreamedMori- don't careAme- ???Ina-Break/No DeliveryGura-Shill StreamIRyS-??Bae-???Kronii-Crunchyroll/No DeliveryFauna-Starting Break/No Delivery?Mumei-???Anyone able to fill in any of these people's schedules for today?
>>30204308Kys
>>30204308Make your own list then
>>30204313Ina had a twitter space earlier.
>>30204090Thats the beauty of it, we just fix tally and gold anons current retardation
>>30204090Ibrahim did win(technically), and we said we wouldn't do Zs anymore in August.
>>30204447>we
>>30204116I wish I had the time to be as dedicated as halschizo anon.
>>30204394Yeah I know, that's how I figured out she wasn't gonna stream, her internet is fucked.
>>30204462yes we
>>30204313Bae might twitter space desk building today with friendtaro.
>>30204462Yeah? We.
>>30204462we
>>30204462Yes we.
>>30204384Why should I, the untampered list is good enough for me. Only retards let random faggots pick arbitrary peaks for them
>>30204462yes we, people with brain
>>30204245Like I said, he's still the winner, it just happened under circumstances so retarded that the guy responsible for enforcing the rules was firedI think this is quite a good parallel to Fuwa winning a day because YouTube can't count
>>30204462we did actually
Inb4 samefag
>>30204090Well August is a fresh month, and retroactive nullification isn't really against the rules.Also VRabi and VStats removing Z-peaks entirely and adding a Z-filter kinda gave the bug an "official" credence, so we're in a bit of a quandary.
>>30204573So tally anon needs to be fired and replaced then?
http://poal.me/fxriyz
>>30204644we
>>30204557>lets a youtube glitch pick arbitrary peaks for him
>>30204090I guess people will just shitpost about it again when monthly gold tally gets posted. I'm fine with that as long as everyone remembers Ibrahim only won 14th July gold if Z peak is counted
>>30204686anon doesnt have critical thinking pls understand
>>30204462yes, we.
>>30204573The peak was definitely higher than 40k. That stream had significantly better guests and vod/like/any other metrics performance than the 39k peak stream the next day.
>>30204462>Wii
>>30204615vrabi didn't even count whatever the fuck was happening in fuwa's stream as a z
>>30204686>YouTube glitchSource? Yeah that's what I thought
>>30204782>sorucevstats and vrabi
Why did Lain's gold have more lewds than Flare?
>>30202130fake and gay znigger>>30203420this
>>30204806anon got a vacation for posting a slight nipple
>>30204768yeah because it wasn't an actual Z, it was some weird Fubuzilla type thing.
>>30204711I consider his win "legit" in the sense that there was no broad agreement to not count Zs going into July and it would have been inappropriate to have decided to discount it at that time, given the weight of bias that it was a close month and that particular win would have been important in saving the month for either company. Going into the blank slate of August the majority of people agreed to not count Z peaks without any foreknowledge of whom that would be beneficial for, if anyone.
>>30204806Cause Lain is not gonna win another gold in her fucking life
the mark of shame
>>30204615>blatant revisionism Vrabi doesn't remove z peaks retardThey just added a filter to simulate non Z peaks/chartTheir sorted list still uses the untampered peaks
>>30204308>Also Miko had a Z on her first gold of the month. Any peaks after the Z is as invalid as the Z peakAre you retarded? What are you even trying to peddle here?
>>30204856that's unfortunate...
>>30204090no1 but your samefags accepted the pajeet's cheat code, kys
>>30204882this kills the nijikek, suffer >>30204898
>>30204875Hey, don't say that. She might get it for a graduation on a slow day.
>>30204869That's a dumb take. Here is a smarter take> this is a site without any editorial control by the site staff, and where each anon post has the same weight as any other anonThat means people can say whatever the fuck they want and, if enough people agree, well, that's it then
>>30204898I missed adding "respectively" there but I think that should've been obvious with the context.
>>30204313Imagine the state of EN today if the boys didn't exist and we just had Gura's shill stream during EN hours
this thread reeks of maleanons
>>30204966Nijien still exists and is more fun
>>30203695Have a seat loser.......oh wait
>>30204731We have no way of knowing what it actually was, though, because the counter was brokenThat's why my position is he should have the daily win, but with a footnote acknowledging the inconsistency
>>30204994kekd
>>30204804Vrabi doesn't say anywhere that the Z's are glitches anon. Nor the vstats show any source or rationale to referring it as バグ
>>30204959based fellow chocolate enjoyer
>>30204988ogey
>>30204930thats a vstats screecap rerard
>>30204988>Nijien still exists and is more funLiterally the only good NijiEN stream today is Pomu's MGS starting soonOtherwise there's >League>Apex>A fucking jigsaw>Pokemon>more ApexOh there's a full ILUNA vocal training collab which could be mildly interesting but I'm not watching Yugo, he annoys me
>>30205076just take the L nijikek
>>30204988You can keep your genderfluid to yourself
Reminder that the Nijifriends actually like watching these people.
>>30205076>thats a vstats screecap rerardYou reverse uno'ed yourself there anon
Z-discussion isn't going anywhere.Post your non-schizo reasons on why you support pro-Z or anti-Z on the tally.
>>30205118>Literally the only good NijiEN stream today is Pomu's MGS starting soonI don't know but MGS was the only thing that made me watch a Pomu stream and i realized that i was only staying because i liked MGS and couldn't wait until she shut her mouth.
>>30204996>nigger on reading comprehension
>>30204869this thread isn't a democracy and never will be, it's an anarchy where whoever has the autism to post for the longest wins, people here complain about tallyanon's decisions all the time but he's been going every single day for nearly a year now while nobody trying to replace him has lasted more than 3 days
>>30204988I have to be bored out of my mind to watch any of them besides Pomu. Pomu is streaming at 3 Pm but it's one of the crappier Metal Gear side games I think. The rest of Niji EN schedule looks like dogshit, 5 of them are playing LOL. 3 of them are playing Apex. Yugo and Petra are also streaming. Luca is playing Pokemon and Maria is playing Apex is the middle of the night. it's grim.
>>30205162It's an obvious, easily identifiable bug that doesn't represent the real viewers.
>>30205162I'll start.Pro-Z because1. In the end we have to select one number as a source, and I'd rather keep it as Youtube since it's consistent across all situations and will likely outlast all of the tally sites (RIP VNuma).2. There haven't been that many incidents where Z flipped gold, other than Fuwa's thing this month (which wasn't even a Z) and Ibrahim's electric-Z last month.3. Ultimately the tally is mostly for shitposting and has no value outside of this thread, and Z's are one way to keep the horse race interesting.4. Without the Z, Holo will dominate most of the month, and the competition will get boring.I'd much rather prefer exciting horseraces to holo domination.
Is that the PekoGuraCalliRui Collab happening on Monday?
EN3 needs a cunny
TOP KEK>>>/b/They're having a seizure or something
>>30205128
>>30205162the sites we use are already filtering z
did Flare ever sing chocolate rain?
>>30205239its one of the promoted jannies
>>30205212Counterpoint : The sole contention on this month's tally is Fuwa's gold which wasn't even a Z.
>>30205214>the competition will get boring.You sound awfully similar to someone who spent days crying at the start of the previous month.
>>30205162Anti-ZFake peak caused by a glitch that's easy to remove without the need for any subjective judgement (as opposed to removing allegedly botted streams or something like that).
>>30205162Seeing a weird ass graph annoys me
>>30205239>30cm black shlong fit for Whori>Furries everywhere>Two cat taking 60% of my screenI regret clicking on this.
>>30205162I hold the more nuanced position that Zs and other inexplicable phenomena should be counted, but with a note on the list acknowledging that something weird happenedMy reasoning is that they're an obvious error and not representative of real changes in viewership, but all of YouTube's numbers are shit to begin with anyway, and if you don't want to take them at face value you're going to get into endless arguments about what should or shouldn't count
>>30205162Anti because its retarded to count those peaks that can jump 40k ccv and disappear in one minute
>>30205214>4. Without the Z, Holo will dominate most of the month, and the competition will get boring.I feel like you're just baiting people and actually want the Z gone.
>>30203695>Is it because LazuLight not only got 3D but got it in less time from debut compared to Myth?Huh, where? Did I miss something?
>>30205162>pro-Z or anti-ZRussia lost, give it up already Z-friends
>>30205289Would be valid if our main source of the tally (tally anon) was using the sites that are filtering it, but he's using live-ranking which isn't doing anything, and refuses to pick a side on the matter.
>>30205162not for z since its a weird ass recent glitch that should have been ignored in the first place
>>30195105ACTIVATE THE N FILTER
>>30205162Z's and the weird ass zhang mountains should have not been included
>>30205162Its literally a bug and counting Zs from the beginning was retarded but it became the norm here so i just went with it as much as I didnt like it however when the websites started also giving options to disregard them the proper choice became clear.
>>30205162Removing Z without clear YT sources claiming its a bug opens future attempts of tampering based on similar fuckeries. Especially when the perceived stakes are higher. Its the epitome of thoughtlessness.>sawtooth>sudden spikes without the recovery>completely fucked up chartAlso cases where the race is between two Zs and the non Z peak decides the winner. There's no deterministic method to decide the non z peak
If we're ignoring Zs, can we ignore funnels too?
>>30203232Nowa 5kMagni 6kAxel 4kRegi 7k
>>30205162I was pro until some of the sites started to filter it
We're having a retarded Z timeloop but the worst thing going on right now is actually the ugly knife ear spam. No one wants to see this ugly frigid bitch.
>>30205568Why?
>>30205414this is probably the most rational solution that will inevitably end up with everyone being mad about it.
>>30205162I'm pro Z because Ukraine is a corrupt shit hole than the elite uses solely for tax evasions and money laundering. The fact that the US government let themselves rolls up multiple billions of dollars for that tax evasion effort is way beyond me
>>30205568no, because we dont ignore raids either
>>30205162Im against counting the weird spikes now since some of the sites have stated not counting them and 5ch are gonna use the filter
>>30205568No box?
>>30205467>Would be valid if our main source of the tally (tally anon) was using the sites that are filtering it, but he's using live-ranking which isn't doing anything, and refuses to pick a side on the matter.Well no, the main issue happened because live-ranking didn't even pick up Fuwa's stream because it was too short, so he had to use one of the sites filtering the Z.
>>30205632They give one side an unfair advantage and they artificially inflate peaks, especially after a big event.
>>30205525post the real version
>>30205539>literally a bugStill no YT sources
>>30205616sit down dwarf
>>30205687What about raids then?
>>30205616this entire arc is your fault in the first place for chickening out on the tally
>>30205687Cry more
we should ignore everything besides waiting room because it's the only one we know isn't fucked with to an astronomical degree
>>30205162because its a retarded bug
If I was trying to produce a relatively unbiased daily ranking I'd probably record the highest CCV within each minute, then rank streams based on the average of the 15 highest minutesThis would effectively rank each stream by their most popular segment while eliminating the influence of Zs, raids that immediately leave, and superchat readings that drag the average down
>>30205550slippery slope argument has little merit here because Z is comparatively easy to identify (tracking sites like VNuma already have filters for it) compared to your other examples.
Does anyone have SNOT panel vod?
>>30205737Raids are a Youtube feature. It's not my fault that Hololive doesn't make use of them.
>>30205720>thinking pajeetube will ever admit to the bug when there isnt a huge push about itonly reason they acknowledged the dogshit CCVid was because actual creators started to push for it to be fixed, this bug creators probably dont notice or care about enough to fix since its not drastically crushing their numbers.
>>30205162Its a glitch so it should be ignored
>>30205688he used the mado peak
>>30205779Too much work, not enough redundancy (multiple websites doing those) for robustness
>>30205808FAUFAU!!!!! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Hey elfriends, if Flare is so good, why is she still stuck below 1M subs when the rest of her generation passed it a long time ago and two of them already hit 2M?The clearest example of someone carried by her generation.
>>30205811Baffling post
>>30205811They give one side an unfair advantage and they artificially inflate peaks, especially after a big event.
>>30201737Salome 39k niceAll she needs is to play some buff games, but unfortunately niji buff game is only Apex
dang this Watame skit is popping off1m after only one day, better than holoGra
>>30205805vstats says it was a z, vrabi says it wasn't
>>30205913HOLY SHIT
How fucking hard is it to understand? The usual tally would use include the Z peaks, because it doesn't really do anything but show how many 10ks a group possesses in a day on top of trying to see what kind of games that's were buffed at one time.The gold list/tally is the horse racing tally where you SHOULDNT include the Z peak as the gold. Just use the numbers before or after the Z, and count the peak then, not the literal Z peak which boosts 9k-15k in one minute then returns to normal numbers on the next.
>>30205162just use your fucking brain retard
>>30203420Thank you genuine tally anontachi, with a neat 420 at the end to make things better than necessary.
>>30205874she doesnt have more subs cause chocolate cause diabetes and we elfriends keep dying over it
>>30205688His original position was to use whichever tracking site had the highest peak, idk why he didn't just go with that and just give Fuwa the gold.His graph wasn't even because of a Z anyway.
>>30205162Non z peak can only be determined if you have a ccv chart (deterministically or otherwise). Not many sites does those for many/all chuubas except vstats and vrabi. Both had shit the bed before
>>30205962>The gold list/tally is the horse racing tally where you SHOULDNT include the Z peak as the gold. Just use the numbers before or after the Z, and count the peak then, not the literal Z peak which boosts 9k-15k in one minute then returns to normal numbers on the next.Fuck you youre just saying that to make sure hololive wins
>>30205162I don't support either side, and I think the thread would be a lot better without the daily tally.
Holobabies only want to stop counting Zs because it will hurt Nijisanji. Hololive can't win on its own merit.
>>30205988>, idk why he didn't just go with thatTo be honest he pussied out and went with that, and with the alternative as well
>>30206037Holy Kek
>>30206037who was kicking and screaming about sana's Z again?
>>30205913Because EOPs understand
>>30206037
>>30205162>Anti-ZIt's an anomaly in data due to a inexplicable bug/glitch and is not indicative of the true representation of the ccv, most especially that the bug even normalizes after, which makes the peak from the Z even more useless
>>30206037Why does Z's only hurt nijisanji? Can you not win without the stream spazzing out?
>>30205805>slippery slopeIts not even that, the potential of further tamoering attempt is already open even as of right now. It's just a function of time when the case arises
>>30205162I am pro Z because without it Nijisanji cant be competitive against Hololive
Reeks like discordfag here.
>>30206056Which is what ended up causing this retarded timeloop anyway.Plus the fucking tracking sites taking matters into their own hands.The only time Z affected gold was during Ibrahim's peak, and there wasn't really any more than the usual schizoposting at the time.
>>30206024So you're admitting you just want the Zs so niji can win?
Nijifan here. We all had a talk behind the scenes. We all agree that Fuwa should have that gold, but we also agreed to leave the board forever if Hololive wins or ties even with that gold in place.
>>30206179I fucking wish.
>>30205737Raids are actual viewers. Also neither company really use raids much on the JP sides so it's mostly been a non-issue for the main tally.
>>30206180Yeah duh? And theres nothing you retards can do about it since tally anon will still count the Z
>>30206154Reminder that discordfags fear lolis because they are r*dditors.
>>30205813Yeah no source then, it's as good as made up number.>sawtooths are bugs and invalid>Apex graphs are bugs and invalid>Outfit reveal spike peaks are bugs and invalidMore or less same weight as all of above
>>30205913> consistent> short> translated> not cringeit's a mystery
>>30206167>causing this retarded timeloopNo it wasn't. The timeloop would happen anyway
>>30206224So are Z's and even Viewfarms. The only non actual viewers are bots which are filtered by susan.
that indie Rye Project hiatus' starts today, watched her stream yesterday shes kinda whatever but has peak cunny voice and is /k/ so ill be upset no matter what corpo she goes to if she doesnt get a cunny model from them
>>30206125This.How hard is it to understand? Fuwa's stream might not look like a Z but who jumps to 45k instantly, drops to 35k the next minute then after a few minutes, jumped back to 48k only to drop below 26k. How would one infer from that? That 10k people vanished through the air, that the stream is lagging, that there was an army of women at Morning with their phones joining his stream? Pretty brain-dead to include Z peaks for Gold tally
>>30206254(you)
>>30206224How does that differ from funnels then?
>>30206230He doesn't though , open your damn eyes Nijibrony >>30203420
>>30206289some anon said that one of the smaller en corpos that are debuting already has her friend in it so theres a chance she might be in it as well
>>30205931VStats is manually removing "unnatural peaks" from the Top 10 but at that point we're leaving the judgement upto whoever is running that site for accurate numbers other than Youtube, and that has no more value than any random tallyposter here using other sites.We need some form of baseline to agree upon, and until recently it used to be just whichever site had the highest peak. If we're making a new baseline, we need more consistent rules.
>>30206289She's going to be the gura killer of wave 7.
>>30206319Funnels are people willingly going to another stream. Raids are whoever doesn't click away before they get sent over, including people who immediately leave, people who actually do want to watch the stream they're sent to, and afk people. I still count them both, but they are different in nature.
>>30206319Funnels are people making a conscious decision to watch another stream because the content interests themRaids where most people immediately leave - which has applied to almost all NijiEN raids - do not represent interest in a stream's content
>>30206037How about we make a deal. Let's count Nall the Nijisanji Zs in september while discounting all Holo Zs. Wanna take that bet?You know what'll happen if Niji still loses the month.
>>30206280No, back when Ibrahim got gold off a Z-peak, there was some seething but it died down rather quickly. Would have been the same here since Tally anon would simply be sticking with his usual rules (highest peak from whichever site tracked it).Fuwa gold would have cause some seething, but I'm sure people would have simply moved on after a while.
>>30206336arent most smaller corpos already 100 views only, she already pulled 100-120 viewers whenever she streamed. I feel like looking into smaller corpos for an indie with that many viewers isnt as lucrative
>>30206661FUBUKI, NO!
>>30206560Fuck off alreadyJust leave the gold list alone from dishonest numbers
>>30206563>implying it would be the same as ibrahimtheres a difference since vstats added the filter
>>30206563>there was some seething but it died down rather quicklyWhy do you think this split has been in open revolt and going as far as actually taking a real stance about it since then?
dont let all this Z discussion make you forget Sana got 11 dollars'd at the end of her graduation
This tear the anus of the nijifriend.
>>30206224Could you imagine the shitstorm if Holo JP started randomly raiding each other? Like Roboco getting a 30k peak out of nowhere.
>>30206670im guessing she would rather be at a place where she is has a sure spot rather and it seemed like she badly needed the cash so unless shes getting paid prior to debuting then she would not wait for 2-3 months to make money again
These Flare lewds aren’t doing it for me.
>>30206815 (me)*tears
>>30206563>there was some seething but it died down rather quicklykek
>>30206691fuck no, gold should refelct the winner and if the winner is a Z then gold is a Z
Anti-Z summary>its supposedly a glitch/bug, therefore should not count>we have multiple sites now that tracks non Z (regardless of accuracy), therefore its feasible to easily use and confirmAny pro Z anon wants to summarize their arguments?
>>30206913WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT ..... > FLARE IS **THIS** STACKED!?!Why do people hate the chocolate elf again?
>>30205579>Most consistent, highest floor member>Batsu style event stream>5k when there should be 0 HoloEN overlaps because of CRXGrudgepost bait?
>>30206943>Why do people hate the chocolate elf again?only dwarves do
>>30206931Z is the only way the horse race is exciting instead of lol holo wins
>>30206943i do not like dark skin
>>30206691>dishonestStill no source, while actual explicit tampering is supposedly honest
>>30206420this thread will never agree on anything so i'm going to keep posting just whichever site has the highest peak as alwaysi gave gold to that one obviously botted to shit luxiem collab and was fully prepared to give it to the aussie snake girl before mio i think it was just about pipped her at the post, this isn't even close to being the most dubious gold i've recorded
>>30206983Keep crying about it
>>30203420A half elf who wants to become a number rabbit... https://youtu.be/b7K8Q7x-2DU
OI! Knock it off! Be civil!
>>30206931>Theres no proof that its a glitch or bug>Only way nijisanji has a chance
>>30207012Funniest thing about trying to establish identity in a cantonese basketweaving forum is that>YOU REALLY CAN'T
>>30206851i feel like anyone would be fine waiting 2-3 months if they knew they were in a big corpo
>>30206815Nijiniggers really like to defend their Z's fuck the dwarf he deserves to be stoned
>>30206997
So, we're in agreement that Zs are valid then?
>>30207106based
>>30206931Lol Doesnt matter since Tally Anon has the final word
>>30207132No
Flare really has some of the best lewds.
>>30207101thats if she got in and with her numbers i doubt nijisanji passed her in the same wave as Ilunaand cover wont touch anything political/controversial any time soon after that mumei vid
>>30206829For Roboco to get 30k someone with like 60k would have to raid her. So it wouldn't really effect anything and would just look slightly weird on the tally. To really do something you'd have to have a big stream raid another big stream. Like Pekora raiding Marine or Miko to boost them over a Niji Koshien stream or something like that. Or I guess for the EN tally, any big JP raiding Niji or Holo EN, giving them a win by default.
>>30207106here, fixed that for you
>>30206931To put it as simply as I can>Deciding what is and isn't a Z and what exactly the non-Z peak is adds too much personal opinion and potential bias into what should be pure arithmetic>Opens up huge slippery slope potential, if Zs are excluded next people will want worms and other graph weirdness removed as well as anomalies like Salome where there was no real evidence of bots
Is there a word/term to call this kind of action during an online argument when the person keeps saying "Evidence" or "Where's your proof?" time and time again despite already giving relevant arguments? They'll just deflect it, and opens up another where's your proof question. I got the de ja vu since this kinda happened during Salome's 90k arc too.
>>30207132See the real tally >>30203420
>>30206697that only started once the actual tracking sites got involved, giving it an air of "legitimacy".notice that until then, most of the Z posting was just shitposting.
>>30207352Mental gymnastics?
>>30207352>when the person keeps saying "Evidence" or "Where's your proof?" time and time again despite already giving relevant arguments?Yep, it's called >the Proofster
>>30207368most Z posting was shitposting because we rarely ever had a Z steal the gold in the main tally.
>>30207352They just want you to accept the fact and numbers, no counter arguments. Literal CCP brainwashing tactic.
>>30207352Lmao trueBut no for real, there's literally no evidence that support what you're pushing
>>30207339Kek
Okay, this shit is getting boring, I'll take a crack at Furea lewds but not a lot
>>30206698Vrabi has an actual automated detector for the bug, and it does not consider Fuwa's peak as a Z.Vstats is removing "unnatural" peaks manually, which has as much merit as a schizo removing people's peaks for random reasons.
>>30207352>relevant arguments?Some faggot said its a bug is neither relevant or an argument
HOLY SHIT, one of the Neo Porte debuts nearing 2 views and needing a Z to break 200
>>30205162I'll give you one good reason why Z's should be ignored. Because some retard sooner or later will get mad enough and do another $11 just to win the tally and everyone in the thread will get a vacation again
>>30207443Yeah, numbers are numbers, YT pumps out glitches and all. But why would you care about a gold list in this site? Like, we want the gold list to only be filled with honest, non-z peak numbers since it's fair to other competitions. There were no Zs prior to this before and it happened recently. So just leave the gold Z alone, or is there some kind of hidden agenda here?
Sunday Gold goes to...?
>>30207368i hate the vstats faggot so fucking much for opening that can of worms, you can't even see the fucking z on his site's graphs and there's no algorithm or anything behind it he just does it manually lel
>>30207578Leave the gold list alone*
>>30207590Unless Kuzuha is doing his final Koshien tomorrow, Flare will be taking it with her live
>>30207540People get vacation not because the spend $11 anon, it's because they are participating on what the mods perceived as a raid. And yea, its not relevant to the discussion
>>30207578>Yeah, numbers are numbersThis is something that the holobabies can't understand. They want to manipulate the tally because they can't win otherwise.
>>30207540I really should do an 11$ to a holo i need them golds to feed my family
>>30207508vrabis is based on a rise and dip into back into pre Z CCV.On Sanas graduation at the end of her stream the first Z is "corrected" but rest of the spikes arent since they dont dip below what her viewers were before the spikes since those were bot attempts i think.
>>30207578>Like, we want the gold list to only be filled with just cooked hololive numbers and some nijisanji/indie to make it seem fair to other competitionsZ win Z gold simple as
>>30207522Biggest Z ever recorded, +100% incline with this, Nijitards would love to know the formula to do this on their Koshien streams.>>30203420
ITT: one schizo pretending to be retarded, and other idiots replying
>>30207540Botting wouldn't necessarily cause a Z, and wouldn't be disqualified under the July or current ruleset.
>>30207650>Unless Kuzuha is doing his final Koshien tomorrowhe is https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1555586219664633857
>>30207352Ziggers have been known to use this tactic for years.
>>30206931Bit more of a nuance d point, I'm fine with ignoring Z-peaks if VRabi's automated filter detects it.At the same time Fuwa's graph is what caused this issue in the first place, and that was very clearly not a regular Z.Removing that one sets the precedent of removing other "unnatural" peaks due to whatever reason, once again bringing Luxiem and other retarded Nijisanji graph's validity into question.Who decides what is "unnatural" in such cases? It's just going to be a can of worms and schizoposting for the rest of the month.I'd say keep Fuwa's gold intact, and if any Z's contest gold in the upcoming days, we can check Vrabi's filter to see if it was caught.
>>30206274This is the only Furea lewd I ever got off to. I especially like it paired with the topless version.https://files.catbox.moe/nlpamb.jpg
>>30207682>>30207719Ok this are discordniggers
>>30207764Then people will have a horse race.I'm betting on the King
Is flare really that busty?
>>30207743>Botting wouldn't necessarily cause a ZHow can you be sure? YT already change their bot algo since it caused some channels to get nuked. How sure are we that the Z is not bots getting culled?
>>30207682>Nijinogs wants their 11$ to count because that's the only way they can win against hololive
>>30207578On what basis did you refer to taking any number recorded by the YT API as dishonest, while referring to the manually/algorithmically removing peaks from said data source ( a.k.a tampering) as honest at the same time?
>>30207784Just do it for this month, why start after Fuwa lol
>>30207784I genuinely believe that Zs should not be removed but, if "detected" Zs were to be removed I say that Fuwa wonky Z should as well as he clearly didn0t add 20k people to his stream and then lost them in 30 seconds
>>30207012>i'm going to keep posting just whichever site has the highest peak as alwaysthis fucking timeloop started in the first place because you chickened out and deviated from that rule you goddamn dwarf.
>>30207796nice
>>30203695https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC8D1fjsLzY
>>30207784>if any Z's contest gold in the upcoming days, we can check Vrabi's filter to see if it was caught.Didnt you retards say that during the sana graduation stream?
>>30207352Appeal to Ignorance iirc
>>30207764Then it all comes down to. 1. If he over performs like his last stream, Flare has no shot. But if he has a normal(for him) 70-80k koshien stream, flare has a chance.2. Flare must have a performance good enough to beat her record, which she set in June. .>86890 :: 2022-06-19 (flare) :: 【#不知火フレア生誕祭LIVE】遅れてやってきた私の誕生日LIVE!【不知火フレア/ホロライブ】
>>30207805If king does another weird Z drop that doesnt recover then he's out
>>30207875i'm not tallyanon, i just post the total gold counts
for some reason, vrabi and vstats keep crashing on me, telling me side client is bad or some shitso I wanted to ask, how much did sara get on her birthday countdown?
>>30207428I posted an example two levels ago : Ibrahim's thunder-Z gold.There was some memeing and shitposting but it was over the very next day.
>>30207827I can't be sure. The alignment of Saturn and Neptune *could* be causing Zs for all I know, but as it stands now it looks like Zs are primarily lag-induced. If someone wanted to make a burner YT account and make an active livestream for us to mess around in, including tabbing out, buying bots, purposefully causing lag on the livestreamer's end ect, it would be a fun and helpful exercise.
>>30207985>over performsis that how you call bots now?
>>30208038>Lag inducedsome of them was lag but some streams didnt experience lag but still had a z
>>30207743Not really. Botting doesn't cause a Z, and will get past the Z-filter that VRabi has.Botted peaks have been counted in the Tally before : Sara's viewfarmed peak, Millie's 11$ peak etc. were all in the tally. Sara almost won gold too.
Just to remind everyone, this was the discussion in July for Z's.the history of Z discussion in July>Before Sana's graduation>H: Z shouldn't be counted>N: Z should be counted>After Sana's graduation>H: Z can be counted but it should be used in the same manner everywhere.>N: Z shouldn't really be counted. Not really. What I mean is, Z shouldn't be counted from now on. Right. Yea lets go with that.>H: And the peak for the stream is the other none Z peak right?>N: .......... ....... ....... yea.... sure....>Today>N: Hah, MIKO Z'd her whole stream shouldn't count!!!!!!!!!!!!!! holobronies btfo!>H:..............
>>30208038this line of discussion is what eventually led to the 11$ incident btw, Luxiem graph discussion was undergoing the exact same timeloop.
>>30207998Me and flare
>>30207590Flare's anniversary 3D I guess.Unless there's some powerful Koshien stream.
>>30208007agree
>>30208038>tabbing outalready tried that using my pc and phone on some 1 views and it didnt give them any z. Tabbing out does remove the view on both devices except when youre using premium
>>30208049Well, he got a 112k without and before the Z. Unless you're saying that all Koshien streams are botted? That 112k is an over performance for his koshien streams.
>>30207595Yeah, and Fuwa's peak that he "adjusted" wasn't even a Z.This is basically the reason we have the "highest peak across all sites" rule in the first place. It's the simplest and most consistent way to make the tally.
Just fucking count the numbers as presented by the API but put a note next to the ones with meme graphs indicating that something weird happenedHow is this hard
>>30207846I mean, if you had a brain, thinking a 10k jump to a 20k dive would always look stupid. YT is run by algorithms and machine learning, dummy. If you see something wrong, it's a human's job to fix and correct it. If you accept it as divine mandate from the all knowing machine gods from YT, then you're retarded.
>>30208241It was that weird drop that lost 30-40k didnt recover that made people question it. And he was still playing and wasnt ending
>>30207696> vrabis is based on a rise and dip into back into pre Z CCV.Which is the symptom of a Z.Fuwa's peak was not a Z, it was simply "unnatural".Just like all the other "totally natural" Luxiem graphs which all got into the tally unadjusted.
And the conclusion was to accept botted ccv anyways since otherwise you'd have faggots spending multiples of $11 to draw mountain graphs on streams he WANTS to disqualify. Which counts as a raid considering YT may take action.Z's are completely different since its not bots induced
>>30208246>Fuwa's peak that he "adjusted" wasn't even a Z.what was it then?
>>30207985>overperform>30k viewers that disappear on a lag spikeIs that what we're calling it now?
>>30207499>>30203420
>>30207859see >>30208294it wasn't because of a Z
>>30208241Im talking about the 30k that disappeared right after, sure that's pretty normal right?
>>30208253Sorry, the discordfags want to kill this thread.
>>30208331
I'm at the crunchyroll expo and the line for kiara and ina are pretty short.
>>30207922Sana's final numbers are irrelevant because no matter which peak we count she still gets gold that day, so it's not really contested.
>>30208321Whatever it was, it's not relevant.That's the beauty of just taking the peak with no further tampering effort
>>30208091Lags can be regional too, so some people can experience it while others do not. This is often reflected in chat when a streamer asks if they're lagging and get mixed responses from the audience or even from comments of people here.
>>30208387
>>30207861See problem is that it wasn't a "wonky" Z, it was simply another weird Youtube bug (since his graph didn't dip below his normal line).It's fucked, but if we start "adjusting" the numbers without proper criteria, there'll be no end of it.
>>30208378 He's well on the decline based on the trend line anon. He probably finished a hyped match or something
>>30208378Yeah fuck this kind of shit graphs
>>30208378this shit is extremely suspicious
>>30208453
>>30208447>Lags can be regional too>>30208378lags dont disappear 30k people
>>30208378where did they all go...
>>30208123The discussion was to count the peak before or after the Z, not include the Z peak stream or drop the stream entirely. H still acknowledge that Sana numbers were 85-88k. You can make a case out of this though, Pekora surpassing Ibrahim but Ibrahim won using a Z peak. Is that fair? No it does not, but people here still passed it anyway in hopes that August has a non Z peak start. But I guess not.
>>30208510
>>30208482you are just making excuses at this point
Elves are not sexyElves are not sexyElves are not sexyElves are not sexy
>>30208378Some anons were watching this and I think it was just unfortunate timing that he ended chara creation at the exact same time that the Z hit.
>>30208546Bots need to sleep you know? ( ˘ω˘)スヤァ
>>30208378>Has a stream that's 30k+ bigger than his usual Koshien streams>30k suddenly disappear after the ZTotally legit numbers!nyryrx
>>30208558
>>30208580wrong!
>>30208395post pic o chairless one
btw we've found amebee again, but we've lost all the search party as well as fail to rescue a single one of the 30k+ kuzuha viewers that suddenly vanished in a few seconds. They probably all fell into a hole or something, all on the same exact instant.
>>30205874If Vox is the first NijiEN to get 1m subs why is he constantly mogged by other nijis? Subs don't matter as much as CCV
>>30208620
>>30208587oh so now the character creationg is the buff content? when nijifags were clearly saying that the gacha part was? which is it?
>>30208378There only legit explanation I could possibly give is it was a very long stream, it's possible 30k people fucked off at some point, tabbed out (without opening a 2nd youtube stream and still being counted) or whatever and didn't bother to refresh. The counter to this is if that really was something that happened, we'd see it much more often to a smaller degree, and we just don't. It also looks exactly like what happened with Scarle's laggy debut stream, and there was no way anyone in that stream had gone afk as it happened right at the start.
>>30208378This alone should be enough to exclude niggersanji from every future tally.
>>30208587I was one of the anons and he was still playing at the time. The chara creation ending was a few minutes after the z was posted here
>>30208660you actually kept up the larp kekdo you have a report or something about your journey?
>>30208525They got dan dan'd
>>30208378The drop after the 112k? I guess that depends on what happened in the stream? I don't watch koshien or nijisanji so I couldn't tell you. That looks more normal though than the Z that comes later.
>>30208587>>30208278
>>30208691
>>30208706oooh I see it, the drop from 65k to about 50k that happened naturally.fucking hell Susan is making this insanely difficult with all these shitty bugs.or bots, or whatever these things are.
>>30208727>30k people vanishing in less than a minute looks normalneck yourself
>>30208580What a fucking faggot
>>30208709no, amebee ate my report.
This is the only place that matters and getting camped by nijiinterns/chinks/livers every step on the way because # thread has a better chance to unveil dirty numbers since we look at the graph all the time and when an anomaly happens, people could go check and infer something out of it. Getting raided by Salomeniggers was tough back in June, now we're getting raided by the same niggers trying to justify Niji's faulty and suspicious numbers.
>>30208767
>>30208850abayo nigga
>>30208850
>>30208694Character creation IS the gacha anonYou literally roll for stats
>>30208919even so >>30208706
>>30208910
>>30208799You're a nigger that clearly can't read? I'm not referring to the Z. I'm referring to the drop that he has at 112k -> 97k over 9 minutes.
>>30208849>interns or liversdoubtful but the reddit/discord defense force and zhangs? yeah. theres a group of them that wants this place down due to the discord screenshot
holy kek, they actually used rrats
Why don't we all talk about Yagoo being at the con instead of this timeloop?
>>30208959
>>30208991kek, JUNSGANG WON AGAIN!
>>30208991> rrats from an official Hololive spokespersonthey're taking our lexicon...
>>30209006Holy shit.
>>30209015
mmmmmmm. that was a good 30,000 koshien viewers.
>>30208991>rrats/hlg/, HAATON I KNEEEEL
>>30209077 let's see if this passes
>>30208991Fuck you mod you can't tell me what to doALL OUT WAR
>>30208991Cultural appropriation.
>>30208991What the fuck
>>30209049We'll make their memes, rrats, schizos and revolts. We aren't following the way, we are the way.
>>30208991all they need to do is ban like 5 of the same retards who keep spamming their shit over and over and over.
>>30209138I can see them
>>30209156they did and the retards just made new accounts and spammed again
One more case of Z Niji winslol and I'm making a split thread for /#/ chads with an actual brain.
>>30208991
>>30209006>implying thats rikuthats was an impersonator you see them in a lot of cons
>>30208991Anons keep winning every single day. Be proud lads!
>>30208991the fuck
>>30209247*yagoo
>>30209211with what name?
>>30209247>RIKU?????????
>>30209348non z #
>>30209138 still alive baby
Jesus fucking christ I'm actually going to need to masturbate because of all this Flareposting.
https://twitter.com/Ex_Albio/status/1555854833516965888new graduation buff inc
>>30209440YOUR GEM MINING POWERS WILL BE SAPPED, DON'T DO IT BROTHER!
>>30209434YOU MISSED A SPOT NIGGA
>>30209442>that room looks exactly like my room except for the color of the curtainswtf
>>30209434nice
>>30209434
>>30209434BEAUTIFULThanks for the pics anon. You will be remembered.
>>30209477do they use 動画 for streams?
>>30209434might as well go all-in now
>>30209487Hair is halal
>>30209477he might be talking about that personalized merch thing he was pushing
>>30209587Talkin' about TKB my man
>>30209348# - numbers (smart edition)
>>30209477Ars chama... 2 in a row
>>30208991RAT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>30208991are we reddit bros...
>>30209477I thought this guy was in kings clique via ibrahim?
>>30209509
>>30203232They are going to make pennies in comparison to Luxiem
>>30209547not really, it's almost always 配信he's scheduled to be at nijifes anyway
>>30209669
>>30206950>5k when there should be 0 HoloEN overlaps because of CRXRetard >>30203232>SC predictions
>>30209193>shinobifag>xom chink chong
>>30209726why are nijinigs so insecure?
>>30209726didn't know luxiem zhangs are still awake at this hours
>>30208269It's a horserace, the actual viewers that watch is neither actually relevant or ever accurately reported. YT had stated and people have confirms that the actual peak viewers only really appears after the stream has well ended. No points, be it natural, looks stupid, or otherwise really has any more weight than any other data point from the API.People should start acknowledging the daily tally and any data derived from ccv as that, instead of trying to badly rewire an illusionary real peak ccv that is currently, just plainly unattainable
>>30203695>Is it because LazuLight not only got 3Dfirst, who is lazulight? and second, why should I care?
Wat lain doing?
>>30209509 i ain't going down so easy
>>30209348/#+/ - Numbers+The plus indicates the non-negative IQ of the posters
>>30209927THAT PEKORA UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>30209895Based
>>30209927
Nijifriends we won
>>30209927>>30210008FIGHT ANON FIGHT
>>30210008I'M DOING ALL OF THIS FOR YOU TALLY ANON
>>30210082TO INFINITY AND BEYOND NIGGER
>>30210008
>>30210045
>>30210045context?
>>30210153>>30210082LETS GO!
>>30210153
>>30210045Da fuck is this in reference to?
>>30210045fucking finally. maybe we'll get rid of homobeggars
>>30209728hmprobably something about that thenanyone appearing at Nijifes is probably safe from graduationfor 3 months at least
>>30210254
>>30210045>Post screenshot without context>"Nijifriends we won"
>>30208991What the fuck. Is this real?
>>30210315Who's not scheduled for Nijifest?
>>30210234>>30210277from the pomu bag thread
>>30210341STILL ALIVE?!
>>30210455FUCK YOU NIJINIGGERS
Keep it up Flareposters, you maintain this thread decent.
https://youtu.be/G4PT1phuM9Mpls stream it anon-kun>t. flare
>>30210426>Top poster forgot that he was on reddit
>>30209935Anon, I'm sorry you have to figure it out this way, but there no smart /#/ anons.
ah~ peace~
https://youtu.be/uf_vzk4VSt8Yesterday kson talked about Kanata, their friendship and all the rumors going around after she joined vshojo.
>>30210426>yeah people are tired of politics>down voted to hellKEK
>>30210598Well what did she say I don't speak Chinese motherfucker.
>>30210523SMELL MY BUN BUN CHA JANNIES
>>30210632trannies brigade places like twitter and reddit 24/7. Too bad they dont watch streams, they likely dont even know takotori are streaming rn
>>30210598does she speak any english? unfortunately I'm an EOP
>>30210401idk someone will have to check the newspost and remove those from the rrat list.there's too many of them to keep track.
>>30210696I think someone posted a translation yesterday and nothing of any real value was really said, except maybe that they were still friends, we will have to wait until Kson menheraposts on T2 again
>>30210696>ChineseThat's clearly Mongolian, you fucking idiot.
>>30210696Basically saying its not her fault that they had to live separately with few to no specifics/details, and that they're still friends. Also she unironically told her chat not to bother Kanata about it
>>30210893>MongolianFucking retard can't even spell it right, it's Hmong
>>30210903Kanata already said the exact same when she said she was moving so nothing new here
>>30210979sus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0AbbtN7xS8I would love to have Dashi in holostars.Dude would be amazing there.
>>30210729I'M STILL IN THE GAME
>>30210426What that top poster is saying is true though. A lot english Hololive fans were afraid of Holoen going political. It was a common sentiment shared by fans in every forums. It looks like old Holofans have left the subreddit or just moved on
>>30211118WON'T STOP CAN'T STOP
>>30211208
>>30210866Nice, I like this one. Is there more?
>>30211126It's true, but he used phrases like "full sjw" that lead to automatic downvoting
>>30211299
>>30211366
>>30211126Top poster is a /vt/ user.
>>30211456
>>30211299BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>30211126It is but you need to phrase it well to fit the platform. Saying "sjw" will instantly get people to dogpile you.
Elfriends are doing god's work, I have better opinion of them and their oshi now We need to post actual porn more often
>>30210729SNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFF!
>>30211304douzo tag:futa https://exhentai.org/g/1985302/e7c19bd2f2/
>>30211672I don't. I hate elves and its sympathizers.
>>30211126You have to phrase it correctly. By using the term sjw they called upon the downvote gods to smite them. Reddit has become more retarded over it over the past few years, which is why I'm now back on 4chan after escaping here many a moon ago.
>>30211809This is the perfect post depiction of a faggot anontachi.
... I kinda get why you guys called him a nijishill now.He's doing olympic level mental gymnastics to keep the blame pinned "on both sides".
>>30208991No misleading rrats?What about correct ogeys?
>>30211915I'm kinda exposing myself here but that dude's a huge faggot everywhere. I see him on games and anime/manga subs all the time and he's almost always simping for your standard corpo schlock. If If he has something to say it will be faggot tier
Ina just got Gura Cursed live on stage lmao
Who is she?
https://nhentai.net/g/413905/
In latest /news/, here's a fine specimen of an articlehttps://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/taiwan-vtuber-08062022083451.html>Rainbow Club>Taiwan VTuber VoxIt's actually mostly an article about Nenechi in TW
>>30212119>article actually calls him Taiwan Vtuber
>>30212105That's Natsuiro Matsuri from Hololive generation 1
>>30212119damn nekkos are a dedicated bunch
>>30212119kek
>>30211764>futaShame, I was hoping for a nice cunnilingus scene.
>>30212119> Rainbow clubpffffffffhahahahahaha
>>30212256I meant the other person
>>30205162Regardless of how I feel about it, we don't have automated tools to weed out Zs, and there have been occasions where other causes for CCV fluctuations have potentially masked a Z, which makes everything even more convoluted.
>>30212379 I think it's Way? It's Matsuri's friend that she's collabed with a bunch.
>>30205249why would an adult man post this on a public forum
>>30211915It's still kind of unclear. All we know is they can't collab. We've seen every other type of interaction from both parties, in very small amounts.
>>30212514fuck off, nijifriend. it's very clear.
>>30212514Hi shinobi
>>30212514It was never unclearThe literal first case of this was Ollie being blocked from collabing with NijiEN despite collabing with other Niji branches before and since
>>30212514Every single incident that happens between them is showing more and more that Cover has no issues with them collabing.You'd have to unironically be a nijisanji bootlicker to believe that it's Cover blocking anything at this point.