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>>30083648they got around 30k applicants and all the people they hired had over 100k subs in thier previous lives. Are you saying that out of 30k people they couldn't find one good one that didn't have 100k subs beforehand?
>>30083929/news/ roundup for 04-08-2022>>30023224 Recent clip numbers>>29998071 >>29998109>>29998401 >>29998613
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *>42,882: Pekora (Hololive)>42,581: Shiina (Nijisanji)>42,052: Hayato (Nijisanji)>37,695: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>35,282: Miko (Hololive)>27,862: Miko (Hololive)>26,870: Suisei (Hololive)>21,228: Mumei (Hololive)>20,291: Salome (Nijisanji)>16,428: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,199: Macoto (Indie)>15,070: Watame (Hololive)>14,979: Hal (Neo Porte)>14,845: Subaru (Hololive)>13,613: Korone (Hololive)>12,972: Shu (Nijisanji)>12,482: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,305: Lamy (Hololive)>11,075: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,903: Akina (Nijisanji)>10,396: Luca (Nijisanji)
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1555395670478991360
>>30083929
The whole online talent agency business model just seems so foreign in general when you think outside Vtubing especially since streamers are usually indie. Closest thing I can compare it to is sponsored competitive gaming teams where they hire individual members (talents). I can't really imagine a corporation debuting a bunch of fleshtubers the way Vtubing does, let alone in cosplay and "lore"
>>30083978It's possible they just screened it for high numbers first. Above X subscribers on semi active channel -> you get past the first screening.
Where's Nowa to explain this >>30084138 meme?
>back hort can't stream>back to streaming few days after graduationWhy is she like that?
>>30084173and how is that not "We don't hire below 100k subs"
>>30084061Still using this fake tally?
>>30084061>AUGUST 2022 GOLD1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,775 - Anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,875 - PuniPuni Sponsored Stream3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,605 - Koshien4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,8965 - Rust>GOLDHololive - 3Nijisanji - 1
>>30084155These talent agencies similar to idol agencies in Japan and Korea.
>>30084249I love the N filter so much
>>30084061Hololive keeps winning. They are too strong.
>>30083978My friend is one of the NijiEN manager He said that Gura is rejected by them
>>30084155That's why you can't do 1:1 comparisons, anon. With vtubing, there's a big investment for art and rigging. And people are interested in merching right off the bat because of character designs.Have you seen the sort of merch fleshtubers sell? Tshirts with some stupid zoomer catchphrase they've spouted over the 10 ears it took them to become a 5k shitter.
>>30084155idol agencies are what you should be looking at for comparisons
>>30084208Blatantly lying to get out is starting become the norm every major corpo graduation it seems
>>30083851and then they lost to hololive 2 years later so go figure
>>30084243Kon kon kitsune friend!
>>30084278Wait, does Vrabi have an N filter? Where?
>>30083851Anon, back when Niji was on top in the advent of the streaming age of vtubers and Kizuna Ai was all but killed by the clone fiasco, Nijisanji was considered a "seal of quality" of sorts. It worked back then when they didn't have that many talents to juggle, but now they have more than 150 channels, of which only like 50 can be considered of relevance... and that's being generous. The rest are a reminder to the audience that Nijisanji will throw more shit at the wall to see what sticks irrespective of quality.>>30084155There are big name agencies in the west as well-- they just don't operate the same way that they do in Asia.
>>30084384
>>30084346Other councils seems to not hating her for it. Maybe there is something more to it?
>>30084411Is Vbrai what we have to use from now on?
>>30084208Most Holo fans aren't even surprised, but we just keep quiet to not hurt Sanallite feeling.
>>30084299nice rrat>pwease gontinyuuuu
Gamma drawing Polkahttps://youtu.be/cVrveuUvrF8
>>30084411It looks more like an "N" than a "Z". Why are we calling it Z again?
>>30084444vstats also manually filters out Zs if they end up in the top 10
>>30084208Is she streaming long sessions or short/what is she streaming?
>>30084488because if you tilt your head it becomes a Z
Niji already lose when they give Marine and Peko to Holo at that time..... what the fuck are they thinking ?
>>30083851Nijisanji's saving grace was and always will be Mito. The same way that Sony made use of the PS2 and PS3 to trojan horse new media formats like dvd and BluRay into your average household, Nijisanji used Mito's popularity to make live2d an acceptable medium for vtubing. If it wasn't for Iinchou I really do believe that we would still be stuck with 3d avatars as the main ones being used by most companies and more than half of this startups wouldn't exist because of how expensive it would be to get in the market.
>>30084488Z is more iconic and cooler sounding. Also along the axis of time it looks like a z.
>>30084444Both Vrabi and Vstats are filtering N/Z graphs, but they use different methods and for different purposes.
>>30084243make your own sites or tally then.only compaining you lazy ass
>>30084421Theres nothing for them to get austistically-angered over. its just a case of a coworker getting overwhelmed and realizing the job isnt for her.
>>30084404Nijisanji also didn't really have any competition back then. Kizuna Ai, and upd8 in general, were already on the decline by mid-2018. Hololive also grew in 2019 but they didn't really get big until around the middle of 2020. They had the market basically all to themselves for nearly 2 years and they squandered it.
>>30084411Kek, “N” filter. Wonder why it’s N
>>30084496Short. She got banned.
>>30083978I remember /NijiEN/ post a timestamp where Nina said the bar for the audition is getting higher. Kinda implied they want to hire some big names.
>>30084208Is she really? I would think that the catalog would be filled with more shitposts about it if that were the case
>>30084375they copied hololive with themed gen now lol
>>30084651kek
>>30084488>>30084647It's an N, but we call it Z because of the Ukraine war.
>>30084404Lmao you have no idea what you are talking about. Nijisanji's model was the lowest quality among the corpos back in the days.
>>30084651How the fuck
>>30084734Really? That is based. I remember Rushia yab happening at the same time too.
>>30084404>>30084592In addition to what they said, they also lost to hololive in 2020 after debuting, what, 60 ish talents in 2019? Yeah that sounds like supporting OPs point regarding flooding the lines with grabage to me
>>30084411Ogey but WHERE? Is it a plugin you have?
I gave some back read holy fuck>tallyanon being super stubborn>vstat turned against him>vrabi added N-filter>/#/ takeover the tally, tally anon is no moreHoly shit.
>>30084813Clear your cache and refresh anon
I still don't know how the fuck Nijisanji lose to Hololive since 2020
>>30084813Refresh and it should appear
>>30084762She was banned in game to be exact. Nothing to stream so she went offline.
Isn't this surprisingly really good?
>>30084847unironically by accelerating too hard and diluting the nijisanji brand
>>30084813>>30084846Ctrl+F5 should do it.
>>30084647N for Nijibots
>>30084817wait, really? I need to go read this
>>30084813Clear cache, it's loading the unupdated files for you Anon.
>>30084866Nope. Maybe it's an A/B thing where only some users have it? But then again that makes no sense on a site without accounts/profiles.
>>30084881Yes, exceptionally good actually considering the nerf to music views.
>>30084817Wasn't that dude just some falsflagger? If it really is tally anon then I'd be disappointed.
>>30084881I keep going back to watch the Hindenburg because it reminds me of Kiara almost burning her house down.
>>30084488this thread bites every single bait that's posted and you're surprised that we have brain problems?
jwu, how come Zeta is almost at 7k?
>>30084677Can't expect much originality from a chinese company like Nijisanji.
>>30084955I am here solely for the bait though?
>>30084996It's a tier list ranking of hololive members with Risu
>>30084996Tier list with the shit posting meme lord of Hololive herself on the stream (Risu)
>>30084488we read charts along the X axis anon, and on that it looks like a Z
Oh my god there's an actual (N)ijinigger filter on vrabi ahahahNow the question is, are the people making the average/median charts still using z peaks? We've almost eliminated this blight entirely.
>>30084488>Replies to thisOh, I thought because it's alluding to Zhangs since this is an occurrence happens to Nijis more often. Gomen, been away from 4chan for a while.
>>30085212Tjhey are just pulling data from vrabi and holostats so... I guess it depends on if vrabi allows for easy z filtering on it's dataset
>>30084881It’s short and very loopable
>>30084669Yes she was, for 20 minutes because she didn't know she was banned in the game that she wanted to stream.
It's always fun seeing bot payers seething about their Z being disqualified.
>>30085317Speaking as one of the guys who started calling it a Z, there's no real big reason behind it, it just sounded better in my head
>>30084881IM cover for comparisonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyeNK118Mw
>>30085340Imagine if Z's suddenly stop happening altogether after today
Even Nips are sick of the Z
>>30085398This is why I refuse to believe you're CCV is be all end all.
>>30085406It won't because it was happening to all big streamers.
>>30085406That means they moved from chinkbots to indianbots
>>30085398Anon, vshitshow numbers are never a comparison. Except Nyanners' retarded seiso cover i guess.
>>30085441you want true metrics check out the porn for a talent that is the true test of popularity
>>30083929>>30083963Madoka is so fucking sexy.
>>30085503No because it is literally impossible to lewd the number rabbit.
>>30085406They'll pay for better bots, but the cost will increase.
>>30085531i like that one doujin where the fat guy climbs into her skin and possesses her
>>30085503Marine..I kneel
so holo won last month huh>2018/04 - 2020/04 = Niji>2020/05 - 2022/05 = Holo>2022/06 = tie>2022/07 - present = Holo
>>30085398Ayo wtf? She has a youtube channel? Channel's not dead and she's known as a great singer plus there's pink catshit, why is this dead on arrival?
>>30085562Where the what does what
>>30085324Vrabi's implementation is a literal UI feature that reads the graph and draws a new graphs ontop that skips the "N" if detected. It won't detect other bugged "N/Z" if it show different behavior. VStats chose to manually annotate entries to their tallies if they reach the top 10 for the day (including any entry that climbs into the top 10 as a result of a down-rank of any entries due to N-graphs).There was an anon that actually coded a graph of his own to redraw a completly new graph that eliminates peaks based on a formula though.
>>30085503Porn is bias for visuals.Not a good metric for charisma.
>>30085627https://e-hentai.org/g/1983054/8be054179f/
>>30085398Can they beat Ame and her mom?https://youtu.be/wbdnO13ZoyI
Maria is literally dead air with a bunch of cute noises in between, no wonder she's sub 3kHow did these guys get picked for ILuna
>>30085626>chanel is not deadIs pretty much dead only shit thst she uploads and gets numbers os connor clips
>>300856022022 is another year for Hololive
>>30084945No one else came forward to claim they were the true tallyanon. He just got usurped and everything went on it’s way
>>30085728Nabi basically killed her channel
>>30085503Umisea domination
>>30085743Pl had 100k+ subs
>>30085743Isn't she chinese? Nijisanji has chinese bias.
>>30085728That actually isn't bad. Better than I thought it would do.
>>30085743well scouting team sees that she have 100k subs and the rest is history
Ffs 3 Karaokes in 1 timeslot. What the hell is going on
>>30085909Funnel for Pekora
>>30085785Why?
Predict numbers if Nowa decides to review memes from /here/
When did Nijisanji started a 5 person themed gen? Selejo?
>>30085947Thinks her parents forced her to focus on school and basically quit vtubing
JWU, anything interesting happen in the past few threads?
>>30086050>AUGUST GOLD1) 114,404: Miko (Hololive)2) 62,664: Pekora (Hololive)3) 112,507: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)4) 42,889: Pekora (Hololive)>PER COMPANYHololive: 3Nijisanji: 1>PER STREAMER2: Pekora1: Miko, Kuzuha
>>30086036Wait what? She is a successful artist, no?
so when does maria start entertaining me
>>30085743The scouting team unironically only looked at thier past sub count and nothing else
>>30086050vstats and vrabi made sure to dunk on tally anon
>>30085970>/vt/ meme review0 viewsManagement would block it because it's too current and will almost certainly contain yab material. The only real possibility is if they somehow filter for reddit tier recycled memes. Just look what was allowed through.
>>30086050
>>30086050Vstats and Vrabi now has N(Z) filter to counter Z
>>30086100When she do what Finana did this morning.
>>30084155I think MCNs work as a decent comparison for the west. Hiring various content creators to be a shared network, hosting some main channel shows (supposedly but never actually) helping them out with projects.>>30084404Accelerate itself isn't a problem, its just how they've been doing it for a while and especially EN. Having overlapping skill is largely pointless after a certain threshold. Its good to have a core of ASMR tubers, but once you have a group including some very popular ones you should stop outside rare absolute gems. In a sense Luxiem was this for the fujo market leaving little room for growth there. Yet the new EN and JP hires just feel directionless, they aren't target appeal but aiming for a general mold. Iluna shows they only really care about subs cause as a group they neither fit their models or show any particular set of skills. Like on of the Voltaction guys can play the violin really well, so make a wave focused on acoustic instrument skills with model to match. They're accelerating but nobody got eyes on the road.
>>30086093probably the Asian parents case, you're not successful if you're not a doctor at 10 and lawyer at 15
>>30086182Rosemi 2.0 won't stoop that low Ryucuck
>>30086153But twpposting, watamage and watamelons are wholesome. Also, I want him to talk about suipiss...
Cover, give me back n***rin, she is not singing like she is supposed to.
>>30084488https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1541658884170887168
>>30086100such a waste, and she has an amazing model too
>>30084881The hell? She only did last minute promotions and release it out of nowhere, I doubt even a handful of JP viewers notice it.
>>30086287She is echoing the success in the campaign of her slav idol in the north.
>>30086254She's holding back her power for that sweet new 2D & 3D model. Did the teaser said that there will be more information this month ?
>>30084847Too comfortable, hololive was literal nobody before and some of their competitors are still far to be at their level can't blame them at all but it is what it is
>>30086093She's like 19 years old now. Still a kid basically.
>>30084881DAN DAN CHIKAKU NARU ANON
>>30086369Yeah I want some of those copium you are huffing. I've been waiting for that huge break but none of her songs get 50m.
That is a lot of Zatsudan
>>30086093>>30086217Explain Ina to me then
>>30084847>Complacency >Hololive facing Yabs after yabs that normally kill any small nip companiesThe questions here is how on earth did Cover managed to even survive at all.
>>30086548At this point he should just turn his channel into a podcast channel.
>>30084404>of which only like 50 can be considered of relevanceThey have more than 125 channels above 100k and a good majority of them doing more than enough to be successful.>Nijisanji was considered a "seal of quality" of sorts. It worked back then when they didn't have that many talents to juggleNijisanji already had almost 60 members before 1 year. It always has been like this since day 1.>30083714? Literally all of their recent debuts broke records getting more subs than any previous waves. EN and JP broke so much records to the point the top 10 is almost all Edengumi, EN, salome, voltaction
>>30086548Nowa-oji found his niche, good for him
>>30086205>Accelerate itself isn't a problem, its just how they've been doing it for a while and especially EN. Having overlapping skill is largely pointless after a certain threshold. Its good to have a core of ASMR tubers, but once you have a group including some very popular ones you should stop outside rare absolute gems. In a sense Luxiem was this for the fujo market leaving little room for growth there. Yet the new EN and JP hires just feel directionless, they aren't target appeal but aiming for a general mold. Iluna shows they only really care about subs cause as a group they neither fit their models or show any particular set of skills. Like on of the Voltaction guys can play the violin really well, so make a wave focused on acoustic instrument skills with model to match. They're accelerating but nobody got eyes on the road.That's the whole point of my original argument when I made the cable TV analogy about filling the lines with garbage: too much stuff with little focus. They should have stopped to consolidate and build their talent, but they didn't, so now they got a bunch of people that will stagnate and fail and their brand will be tainted if not corrected soon (it may already be too late).
>>30086254Honestly wtf are they even doing
>>30084885Nijisanji has been accelerating since day 1, so by your own argument they never should be successful in the first place
>>30085743So she's a bargain bin Mumei? There's potential there.
>>30086548No one gives a shit about watching game playthroughs
>>30086578ThisI can understand that everyone else sucks, but Cover has no business being that fucking resilientLike, forget everything else, Hitomi and Mel yab should have fucking killed the project right then and there (And this is even before the concept of "Holobox" even existed)
>>30086551different parent, different policies duh
>>30086081>Nijisanji: 1koshien is next week its over... not enough golds...
>>30086639Because back then it's either Ai, her friend group or Nijisanji. There's no other good choice until Hololive
>>30086705they were too small for those two to have mattered at the time
>>30086775FUUUUUUUCK YOOOOUUU AAAAAA NOT AGAAAAAAAIN
>>30085799>>30085880This is untrue and retarded when 5 of them were also streamers and were 3views when doing that. Reimu and Millie also had 100k on yt and alsow ere 3 view streamers. Only ones you can make this argument is Ren>>30086620I remember how you all were doomposting about anycolor and how they will die but then their financials came out and showed how reality is much different than the theories spout here. Really, imagine saying that, even more with all of the debuts since 2021 gaining so much subscribers to the point where they break records in the agency
>>30086551She lives in leafland, and her parents WERE soft on her (she was a hikki at one point post uni and indulged in only FFXIV) but she slapped herself out of it and here we are now.
i got some impressive leeching in my recs
>>30086779Nijisanji was created in feb 2018. Hololive, 774, .Live and most of the agencies just a few months later.
>>30086705Newfag here, know about Hitomi, but what Mel yab?
kek, seems like people are making money on day trading with their stock.
>>30086864someone trying to copy discount gura "success?"
>>30086578Cover is terrible in small decisions that doesn't affect their long term outcome but good at the general strategy. Example for Coco's case:>bad decision: hiatus while talent is taunting the antis, releasing statement with different message in different languages, then allowing the talent to keep taunting the antis, while doing nothing to stop the antis shitting up the chat and affecting streams, didn't address the company directly>good decision: pull out of China's marketFor Aloe>bad decision: hiatus when it is clearly just a few antis, statement that talk about nothing important, didn't provide enough emotional support (gen 5 a family kek), didn't check the talent's activity on rm accounts>good decision: let the talent go instead of insisting her to stayFor Rushia>bad decision: hiatus (again lmao), statement that does nothing, again not cracking down on the antis, no support for the talent (sankisei family kek)>good decision: fire RushiaBut the main reason is because all the yabs came from the talent not the company. Those black company that falls, all their yab came from the management.
>>30086163kek
>>30086705>HitomiUltimately she blew herself up, and cover got lucky>MelThey DID fire the guy, and the issues happened after he got fired. If Mel had chosen to quit over it then yes, cover dies over it but the fact that she stayed on means a LOT in terms of managing the issue.
>>30086932
>>30086918manager harrassing her. got fired by cover, then stalked mel. mel had to hire her own lawyers to deal with him. cover eventually settled it with her by paying for her lawyer fees or something like that
>>30086918Manager was creepy and bordering on sex harassment, Mel complains, manager gets fired and starts stalking her, Mel has to hire her own lawyer to sued said ex-manager, Narukami leaks it
>>30086793Counterpoint: if they were too small, then they wouldn't have the experience, management structure nor fanbase to tank those yabs
>>30086989Of course it’s a fucking guramefag
>>30086989so... a clipper?
>>30086775Jesus I hate that this will become a thing again.
>>30086918TL;dr Mel's manager got fired over creeping on her, but stalked her post firing. Cover went ' he's not our employee anymore, what else can we do?' initially but did eventually cooperate with Mel to fix the issue and issued an apology. Its been distorted over time to be a current manager raping her or some other warped version, but point being that Cover hasn't handled it any differently than how most nip companies would have handled it once the guy was fired.
>>30086639They didn't fully accelerate until 2019, and guess what, they lost the market the very next year
>>30084847A lot changed ever since Sankisei and Gura/Mori joined
>>30087024they didn't. but also didn't have the same visibility of the wider public for the yabs to have any long term effect on the company.
>>30086620there's 0 chance of Anycolor reaching the level of other vtuber companies at this point, they always will be second but it doesn't matter in the end if they make money. Market is already too advanced compared to the time of when Activ8 made errors that served as lesson to everyone
>>30087073All these talk about nip companies being fucking backward but tell me how a western company, like a music label, would handle such a case?
>>30086705Hitomi happened when they were unironically too small time for anyone to give a shit about, and also she got memoryholed. Dramaniggers tried to blow up what happened to mel, but the fact that she remained with hololive instead of quitting when she has a reasonably successful roommate channel put the kibosh on that
>>30087024Back on Hitori Chris days they didn’t have the experience, management structure or the fanbase, it was only Sora and Roboco, and maybe the Sakura Miko Project on the side. Mel is the #3 debut subbing in for Hitomi. Here Is a detail few people know: Hitomi gave up the vtuber industry and went to the JAV industry >webm related Look her up, she took the name “Hitomi Tanaka”
any new indies going on hiatus or just the same 4 that have been posted already
>>30086950>hiatus>BadI agree with almost everything else you say, except this Also the whole "Support for talent" is kinda a weird thing to complain about, consider they don't have to tell us everything BTS
>>30086910Yeah. And in the span of Feb to May they already have 3 fucking gen.
>>30086864https://twitter.com/daina_souI'm still waiting to see dinosaur Gura's first stream
>>30087134Example: Nux Incident
>>30087134Based on how the whole Activision thing gone down they would likely fire Mel and promote the manager
>>30087077They didn't fully accelerate until 2019? You raelly don't know what youre talking about huh anon?They debuted:gen 1 - 8 membersgen 2- 10 membersGamers - 9 membersSEEDS 1st gen - 13 membersSEEDS 2nd gen - 17 membersVOIZ - 4 membersthis is more than the same period in 2019
>>30086920>inclined in the morning>crashed after lunchSeems like an easy way to make money
>>30087134in the state of california, the guidance i've been given by risk management and hr on a case like this, we (the company) will file for restraining order against said ex-employee on behalf of our employees that are being targeted.
>>30087073I'll be honest here, it's kinda hard to give cover any flak over that because, seriously, what are you, as a company, meant to do when an ex employee of yours started stalking one of your current employees other than calling the cops and referrring her to a good layer?
>>30087206Hiatus literally kills a channel's momentum. If Aloe decided to come back for example, she would be in a worse starting point than other gen 5.
>>300872602 gens, but thank you for proving my point that they have been like this since day 1
>>30086864The new Rindou Yuuki
>>30086955>If Mel had chosen to quit over it then yes, cover dies over it but the fact that she stayed on means a LOT in terms of managing the issue.You know, I wonder how much stake she had in Cover back then if something like that couldn't make her quit ...
>>30087291How is that different from what Cover was doing? Laws are different. Is there any legal ground to get a restraining order if you have no prove of stalking?
>>30087187Kek
>>30087310get Mel a gun
>>30087341What happened to her? Did Chumpedos successfully groom her?
>>30087275gamers and seeds debuted in anothor brand but yeah it was still under nijisanji brand even before the merger and they debuted more in 2018 than 2019
>>30087318It kills the momentum, but it also kills any potential for new yabs to happen if they streamed. It's the safest way to approach any controversy, just let it cool down by itself.
>>30087365what would quitting actually achieve for mel considering that the guy already got fired? No, seriously.
>>30087415kek
>>30087085Has Hololive had a genuine big hit since Sankisei and Myth? Feels like all the heavy hitters are from that era or earlier.
>>30086634I am huffing some hopium and think that Cover will eventually let Bae and IRyS produce lots of lots of duo originals.
>>30087330And that's the point. Cover only got Sora at that time, AI and other old hag was going for the prerecorded video route, mean while Niji already flood the market with Vtuber that do live stream
>>30087134Western companies can be just as bad as East Asian companies but they also have much more flexible ones that are very proactive due to whistle-blowing culture and freedom of the press.
>>30087310Go the ID route and (discretely) hire yazuka to beat him half to death with a stick.
>>30087467Coco, HoloX, the curry show
>>30087272No.. They would let the manager bully Mel into giving in to his sexual desires, followed by her taking her own life, followed by said manager getting a promotion.
>>30087467Holooks is doing nothing to advance the industry and I am disappointed. La+ had lots of potential but looking at her squandering them is painful. I would rather trade her for another wagahai.
>>30087505The yakuza are pretty much defunct nowadays, it's not the 2000s anymore. Why do you think a yakuza heiress is working as a vtuber?
>>30087467Technically Coco, her first Asacoco was a big hit and managed to secure 5 digit views consistently when it was still kind of difficult for the medium-high hitters to reach that number. Having Miko regularly funneling in with her all-nighter ARK also helped that though.
>>30087424Worse, SJWs killed her via harassment, threats and unsolicited pornographic imagery.
>>30087550Chloe actually seemed kind of scary early on with her immediate numberfagging but that blew out pretty fast
>>30087467Not really but they surely raised their floor in the period. Towa and Mio rising over 10k, Luna and Watame rising over 5k along with almost all girls. Hololive didn’t debut a new industry shattering superstar like Coco when she appear or Gura when she appeared but they are box pushing for real setting a base level of expected success for each debut which is high as fuck
>>30087318Hiatus is protecting the talent from the rain of fire that undoubtedly would be worse when they are streaming and hopefully will be gone when they are back from the hiatus. Shut the fuck up and wait is pretty standard procedure.
>>30087467Wouldn't Kobo be considered a big hitter?
>>30087392that's for the judge to decide. most court here will believe witness statement especially if they're female. a restraining order is not like putting someone in jail so it does not have a jury requirement. it only becomes a court case if the order is violated.when a company fires someone for sexual harassment, there's usually already enough internal hr documentation of their conduct. those usually become part of the case if they violate their restraining order.dunno how japanese court will deal with it but i imagine they have something similar.
>>30087502>freedom of the pressOnly if you're a leftie
>>30087640Yes. Yes she is indeed a big hitter
Pekkers 2M frame. Give me the numbers.
>>300876782M
>>300876782m
>>30087467Just wait for the Gura/Kobo/Salome STARS version. They're going to hit it eventually.
>>30087593I think she is comfortable with how much SC she is earning. All I am seeing is that she is coasting right now. For their main channels, I only see Koyori and Iroha doing stuff, and Iroha only know how to play MC and RFA but nothing else. La+ and Lui are doing stuff outside of their channels but recently the frequency is reduced, and yet their main channels are still almost empty. La+ should stop with those cringey ass shorts by the way. Nobody watch them.
This Holooks schizo is trying too hard
Man, NijiEN thread is in flame again with another Mysta menhera arc. The Asian fujos are fighting the NA fujos now.
>>30086950>releasing statement with different message in different languagesNot really their fault since it was written by their CN representative. The same representative that backstab them.
>>30087640Yeah she is. I certainly didn't expect her momentum to increase instead of just plateauing.
>>30087642> dunno how japanese court will deal with it but i imagine they have something similar.kek, Japan doesn’t even acknowledge “stalking” as a thing, nor does most of the world. Reports of “stalking” to the police are met with this answer>we can’t do anything until he actually harms you Stalking onLu became a thing in the US because of a high profile case of a stalker of a famous actress killing her after she tried to get police help and failed. The rest of the world more or less didn’t catch up to that yet.
>>30087678Damn I love Pekkers.
JWU, who's getting gold today?
>>30087275NTA but wasn't SEEDS some weird side branch that got merged later to the main branch? Also, I think 60+ talents on its own was tolerable but already pushing the limits. If they slowed down to 1 debut every 10 months or something then they would've been better off. They also really need some sort of quality control. The moment they let just any random guy get in was what really diluted the people's perception of their brand. I still think VTA was a good idea on paper but was terribly executed.
>Triple the waiting room for Pekora comared to MainIt's ogre Paterson... You can't beat the Pecock and her supreme numberfagging.
>>30087784Lain 3D
>>30087501Yes? I don't know what you are disagreeing with me
>>30087784Fuck you nousagi. Your oshi will never reach 3 millions
>>30087724Not sure whether they discussed it beforehand. Lots of corpos did this by the way because those geezers have no idea people can translate and compare in this day and age.
>>30086847>I remember how you all were doomposting about anycolor and how they will die but then their financials came out and showed how reality is much different than the theories spout here. Really, imagine saying that, even more with all of the debuts since 2021 gaining so much subscribers to the point where they break records in the agencyAll due to HoloEN, anyway. Nijisanji did shit marketing internationally. All NijiEN did were getting crumbs on the floor from HoloEN and the sole fact that they only do 5 talents every year. Most if not all of vtuber fans were probably introduced to Hololive or Vshojo anyway.
>>30087711>La+ should stop with those cringey ass shorts by the way. Nobody watch them.She's just learning from her senpai...
>>30087794You gravely underestimate tourists.
>>30086950>Different statement in different languagesThat one I'll give Cover a pass, in hindsight it's clear that the CN branch had gone rogue at that point, and was likely the straw that resulted in cover choosing to shitcan the branch in it's entirety.
>>30087789yes but seeds and gamers were called nijisanji seeds and nijisanji gamers even if they were separated. essentially they were all under the same brand
>>30087755can they get restraining order there?that is the basis for anti-stalking here. cops can shoot you if you violently break the restraining order. usually just arrested. then it turns into a criminal case from there where you have to convince a jury that there's potential and/or real harm.
>>30087711But I like the shorts...
>>30087789>The moment they let just any random guy get in was what really diluted the people's perception of their brand.Anon, their brand was literally “anyone can be a vtuber”. It’s the other way around really, I don’t doubt one of the reasons for Mayuzumi departure is that the company is foregoing this >we provide them with the tools and they do whatever they fancyand becoming more like Hololive, an entertainment company with editorial and quality control.
>>30087825>All NijiEN did were getting crumbs on the floor from HoloENAnd boy they did left a lot of crumbs. Look at the nijiEN girls, they are in 4views territory instead of 3view that they rightly belong.
>>30087825What I have said has nothing to do with international marketing and I'm mainly talking about jp
>>30087550all 5 of them are bad streamers, all of them for different reasons, but practice is bettering some of them, however laplus can't improve without practice
>>30087873You like the MC one with Shion in it too? You like the trend-chasing "Anya likes peanuts" one too?
>>30086950If they agree bilibili demand to kick coco, fubuki and yagoo out their local and western market will tank, agree they did the best decision, can’t think of any.
>>30086918Mel's pheromones are too powerful, you guys wouldn't understand....
>>30087869“Restraining orders” are another legal figure I believe to be either exclusive to the US or of very few countries. In most countries you need actually commit a crime, to be tried and convicted before you can suffer any sort of sanction by the state.
>>30087900this. nijisanjification isn't just a meme, its literally their objective since the early days. Nijsanji mentality is more of a network where many stream under them than an agency, even if they still act like an agency
>>30087798Lain, come home... Your 3D won't beat Pecola
>>30087722How about the ryugards? Still melting down or did the coom asmr stream from finana placate them for now?
>reminderVrabi with its new function turned on
>>30087904Like the mindshare for NijiEN has grown to the point where many people know more about NijiEN than HoloEN due to the NijiEN box.I think the market now is split between NijiEN and HoloEN at this point. The only place that HoloEN is bigger is on Reddit, but NijiEN total dwarf HoloEN in Twitter activity. More normies know about NijiEN these days than the entire Hololive.
>>30087467You're saying as if it's easy to get a big hitter, but somehow it's easy for Hololive though. They usually get at least 1 popular one in every gen or 1 dormant popular. Kronii was the most popular one, then mumei and dormant fauna took the spot. Laplus and Chloe was the popular one, then Koyori took the spot. It all comes down to streaming in the end. Even Kaela is the dormant vtuber who only grew popular through time.
>>30087722Can any chink in this thread point me to where to get information from the chink discussion of niji?
>>30087959from quick google, they do have it https://www.statista.com/statistics/1006404/japan-number-stalking-cases-restraining-orders/
>>30087966They even had the “Nijisanji Network” brand where even a passerby without a contract with them could use their app and brand name>then a couple of them had some Yabes like using copyrighted characters as their models and they shut it down
>>30087986More like Mysta causing a split in his fanbase
So does tallyanon got bullied out of the thread? i can't really handle the chaos yesterday.
>>30088075no, that was just a dude pretending to be him
>>30087986the fuck did Finana do this time
>>30088032It's on the catalog anon, you can just check it out.
>>30087900Then Mayu is naive as fuck if he really thinks that letting any shitter join is good, especially when those shitters do jack shit anyway.
>>30088045Yeah, seems like things are progressing in the last 10, 20 years there.
>>30088101ear licking asmr + masturbated/moaning on stream.
>>30088024Kronii was popular because of her voice, but I finally learn my lesson of never count on the 41%. I mean never. And you are right that those who streams will be more popular. Mumei and Fauna both have little charisma but able to almost get to 5view territory thanks to the holo brand and their "hard work".
Aaaaand that makes it 30.Time for a celebration stream or smth.
>>30088136i meant the meltdown part, i could care less about Finana doing whorish things isnt that what her fans want
>>30088121there's an argument about niche filling and total outreach to be made there tho
>>30088110Kek. No I mean I want the legit Chink discussion using Chink language. I want to lurk there.
>>30087979I-I don't think that's the good red-haired girl you're talking about... Based nonetheless.Come home, Ange, Lain.
>>30088101Blowjob asmr
>>30088121It’s a matter of the initial expectations. Sometimes what’s better for the company in the long term and what the early employees prefer aren’t the same thing, and the company ends up cycling their first generation of employees.
>>30087999It only works on new streams
>>30088154She is dead, her opinion should be discarded.
>>30088190Idk, you can probably find it on those Chinese social sites like Baidu or Weibo
>>30087900Yeah he even talked about it in September last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqRUcjFhUdoAnd his decision to leave was in November last year, some months after that. He probably felt like the Nijisanji he knew and applied to is no more.
Jesus fuck, can no one in EN hit 10k anymore without an event/collab?
>>30087900Thank god there is anon that actually followed niji back in the days. NijiEN and holoEN really brought in some clueless newfags.
>>30088243I would crack up if Yagoo somehow manages to court Mayu. He has a reputation for recruiting interesting people to his house.
>>30088303owakon>owakon
IRyS is sad she can't stream as frequent as she used to during the first 3 months anymore...
>>30088303my wife can.
So do you guys think Mysta is going menhera about the gay shipping because of the success of tempus brotubers?
>>30088237That is the thing. I can find their biggest den. All are small discussion. Either they hide it well or google search engine is becoming worse and worse.
>>30088327I think Yagoo will not scrap HoloEN but NijiEN might be in danger under Riku and his vicious management.
>>30088348get this shit off the thread nigger. Makes me wanna puke.
>>30088348Probably because Regis told nijiEN that if they want to collab they need to tone down their coombaiting.
>>300883033 days ago, anon
>>30088303
>>30088351>I canI can't*
>>30088348Eh, I mean it could be genuine. If it was me I'd set the boundaries from the get-go, but people like him probably entertained the mating press ship art because it wasn't that weird for him when he wasn't subjected to it and his relationship with co-workers were still lukewarm.But people change and things simply got stale after a while. Just a matter of whether they are willing to keep it up or nah.
>>30088348NijiEN is full of hypocrite it seems>Feesh shunning GFE and parasocial stuffs only to do GFE ASMR>Mysta title and thumbnail baitingWhat the fuck is Noor's job? If anything Riku should pay the livers monthly wages, not the management given how fucking useless they are
>>30087794the slut will show her nipples and win, i wish she gets canned into vshojo where she belongsbut of course she gulps yagoo's cum so that won't happen
>>30088348It might be a little bit of the contrast of having to work as “gay for pay” and seeing there was an alternative all along.
>check out Rye that ive seen people say will be EN3>first video on their channel is a room reveal>comments disabled because algo thinks she sounds like a kid ToT>"THIS IS WHERE I PISS SHIT AND CUM"yep thats a wave7
>>30088486>Pekora, a slutWhat did Fujotard mean by that?
>>30088348that's hilarious isn't that happens because of their own doing. For me it's like you want the coombaiting reward without facing the consequences of said action. No pity for them
>>30088219no, it doesn't holotrannywhy are you lying?
>>30083929I fucking love Madoka hentai despite never having touched her main work.Her design is pure SEX.
>>30088348Management should put them in more fujobait cons, as a joke. What's the gayest convention in NA and Asia?
320k in 8 hours? What the fuck?
Wrong Madoka is the OP though. Real Madoka is up there watching all of us.
>>30087966The concept of nijisanjification was always strange to me since the only way to really achieve it is to either hire >50% of all known vtubers , even if only domestically. Or to usurp the very definition of being a vtuber, like how "google it" became the catch all phrase for searching for something online (still can't believe that MS tried to make "Bing it" a thing). To be fair to them they got really fucking close to it prior to Hololive's rise in 2019-2020.
>>30088468He did bait the fujos with shit like this, he can't now try to claim moral high ground before his viewers
>>30088592Pride parade
>>30088592Nothing that I know of but if there's any gayest con, it'll definitely be held in Thai.
>>30088598Le Hindenburg enactment
>>30088608>he can't now try to claim moral high ground before his viewersif finana can do a 180, so can mysta
>>30088608He seems to dislike NSFW shipping with Nijisanji EN members specifically, not NSFW gay art with let's say a faceless guy.
>>30088192Too many hags, please no....Their tits must be saggy as fuck
Praying that my oshi streams tonight and gets good numbers. Praying that Mumei and Fauna and Kaela continue to incline. Praying that Pekora's celebration stream generates big numbers and motivates her to greater heights.
>>30088608Wasn't this one 4 weeks ago? But yeah, pretty quick to have a change of heart in that time span.
>>30088689No you should use Ayame praying image instead of Miko.
The constant yabs and menhera from Luxiem makes me glad that Tempus put their foot down from the start with their viewers.The harping from fujoshi must not be good for one's mental health.
>>30087999It doesn't really work well. According to the N filter, Mumei only got 1 Z so the peak is 21k instead of 19k
>>30088689yoou forgot to wish death for nijiniggers.
>>30088707>use a whore instead of my oshi
>>30088645We'll see feesh would be dead soon anyway, it's only matter of time when her final yabs leaks>>30088649But why only with NijiEN exclusively? I remember he did a stream with Shoto that has fujobait title on the thumbnail
>>30088598Funny short video of Mooms comfiting atrocities. Kanauru honestly should've put the Ukraine war in there somewhere.
>>30088608Maybe management scold them to turn down fujo baiting and go to idol seiso route like holostars
>>30087936What's wrong with Laplus though? At one moment she seems very enthusiastic, and the next day it would seem like she doesn't care about vtubing at all.
>>30088602In their case it was the latter, they wanted to define the 'Vtuber' genre. Not everyone can be a Vtuber back in the days, the amount of money you need to burn for 3D rigs since they were the norm in the 4 Heavenly Kings period was massive, that's why Mito coming up with L2D really changed the flow. It showed that with everyone can be one with minimal cost, and them flooding the market is kind of a testament to that belief.
from botan's title it seems she wants a summer festival in mc this year too
>>30088746I mean I can undestand him. They are probably talking offline on Discord and they are coworkers/friends.Imagine seeing images of you making out or having sex with a coworker/friend.
>>30088710baby step anon baby step, but people really should thanks nijis for broke the camel back and have this things planted as a feature
>>30088746I can save the feesh.
>>30088756Vox literally did RP ASMR like a week ago
>>30088348Mysta and like other luxiem members didn't like the prospects of their fans looking like the ones in AnimeFest where they did the panel. Now, they're forced to do a meet n greet with the same kind of people they've cultivated and attracted. Looks pretty toxic imo. Hololive cultivated a wholesome community so they know their boundaries and only act as normal fans, fans who would respect their oshi. $75 CRX Holo meet and greet is a pilgrimage like any weebs wanting to go to Japan, they want to meet their oshis and say good things about her. I'd expect luxiem's MLP fans are gonna want them to kiss their ponies in the booths or a literal furry went to their booth and introduced themselves as mr snickerbottom
>>30088602Nijification worldwide will never fucking happen if they keep insisting on calling their talents livers.
>>30088769menhera
How far out are we from the collapse of NijiEN?
Anyone got the First Army image?
>>30088769young and menhera
>>30088154QUICK, TO THE CARALOGUE
CRX is shaping up to be just HoloExpo lite, with few bones thrown in for smaller corpos. Why did Crunchyroll put so much effort into Hololive anyway?
>>30088893>soon
>>30088769Teens, unironically. Prone to mood swings, wanting to enjoy their youth and indulge in vanities, not yet recognizing what's truly important.Sure they do have a lot of days with recordings and behind the scenes work that leaves them tired, and since we won't hear of those until it comes out I prefer to withhold from calling them lazy.. but yes they could've done better.Wisdom comes with age, that's why hags are great.
>>30088755would have unironically been the final yab
>>30088994because people would actually go to anime cons for Hololive. Think of them as celebrities.
>>30088769i swear she has undiagnosed adhd or something, multiple times i've caught her being very enthusiastic in like a group thing only for her to be straight up looking at her phone 20 mins later
So did Sana not realize she wasn’t going to be able to play all her beloved Chinese games when she got into Hololive? Or did her Chinese connections cause a fuss and pressured her to not stream? I don’t get it, I guess it’s good that Ina has branched out to Japanese connections more.
>>30089001>Wisdom comes with age, that's why hags are great.And, based on how Noir is performing and handling himself, who the fuck would have guessed male hags would work likewise
>>30088888>>30088934>>30089001>>30089053But iirc she specifically said she is not menhera.
>>30088790Then she should go propose it to Peko or MikoMC events are practically their jobs
>>30089064why would someone want to stream chink games, the only good ones for streams is probably muse dash. Genshin is literally boring to watch,
>>30088994Proven track record of selling out stuff. Probably also helps that they are the “clean image” type compared to everyone else.
>>30089001Also want to point before others started calling you out that exception always exists, easiest example being that green whore.
>>30089125botan used to wrangle peko before, don't know what happenedlike just tell peko to grab the ID autists and make them do everything
>>30089121That's how you know that she is a menhera
I haven't followed Holosummer much, has there been any info on what it actually is? I looked at the website and apparently there's going to be some sort of manga?
any 5ch screencaps during nowa's stream?
>>30089121that's what they always say anon
Today's Iluna peaks:>5.573: Ren Zotto (Mario Kart 8)>5.282: Aster Arcadia (Boxman's Struggle / Open Voice Chat)>2.908: Maria Marionette (Untitled Goose Game)>2.262: Kyo Kaneko (Detroit: Become Human - Part 4)>2.197: Scarle Yonagumi (Unpacking)>1.393: Aia Amare (Genshin Impact - Part 3 / Voice Chat with Yugo and Maria)
>>30089125Usaken Summer Festival was Botan and Towa, not Pekora.
>>30089206Why dont you ask the other thread>>30088495
>>30088893>>30088996In 2 weeks, for sure this time.
>>30089125Botan and not Pekora was who organized the Usaken Fes last year, no?
>>30089186Other than it probably going to have some kind of cringe storyline bullshit? No.
>>30089121i can save her...
>>30089121There's degrees to it, she's not as destructive as the necromancer but to some level she is still affected by what people say. She has a loving and close family which is what keeps her relatively saner than most menheras we usually talk of.
>>30089232Speaking of which, what the hell happened to the homo thread? They were suppose to replace global and look at them now
>>30089001College girls Mumei and Bae can be thrown into that category, Especially Mooms. She can be the big star right behind Gura but all this momentum will be thrown away as soon as her college classes start ….
>>30084243Correct one is here
>>30089305its where global posters go to talk about males when they stream since they get shot on sight in global itself.
>>30089305Holy recline …
>>30089305No one is streaming at the moment.
>>30088348Probably saw this cool fucking flip and flipped out cause the only OC he get is him getting hardcore mating pressed.
>>30089144...she's literally doing that right now anon
>>30088773Nijisanji feels like the Roman Empire. They helped influence a lot of things but ultimately collapsed because they spread themselves to thin plus all the internal and external conflicts.
>>30089218Release next wave!
>>30089305they're super fast during streams but otherwise not, because a lot of them are just /hlgg/ refugeesalso i wonder if /pcg/ has cemented itself as the 3rd or 4th fastest general on this board.
People need to stop doomposting about NijiEN because they have been growing a lot bigger than HoloEN thanks to their doomposting.
>>30089397ACCELERATE
>>30089218>1.393: Aia AmareI thought she will be the strongest female in her wave
>>30089397you think this thread doesn't doompost about holoen? what?
>>30089397Overall I'm happy, it means vtubing isn't dead yet
>>30089397HoloEn box can be grown by 10k total ccv with $11 dollars too anon
>>30089396>I wonder if /pcg/ has cemented itself as the 3rd or 4th fastest general on this board.They’re on the middle of a drama because one of their streamers said>DILATE!and her mods and audience forced her to apologize
>>30089397
>>30089305>No stream, on perma hiatusSimple as
>>30089438She is the weakest tho, and people predicted that before the debut, although people also predicted that Scarle would do well post debut
>>30089396There are like drama over phase connect every 2 or 3 days which is why they are fast. I am happy that Phase Connect exist though since they took away time from schizo and help other big corpo filtered out potential yab machine.
>build a brand around secluded internal boxpushing>debut 11 talents over 2 years>1 talent graduates before you even get up to 15imagine trying to form a secluded box style streamer ecosystem with 10 streamers
>>30089385The issue with Iluna is not even about ACCELERATION, it's about atrocious scouting, screening and general judgment when it comes to the auditions.There is not even one single saving grace for the wave when it comes to its members. It's even more disgraceful if you consider that Nijisanji EN is the most popular it has ever been and they almost certainly had thousands of applicants, even if the 30K meme is not true.How can you fuck up like that and continue working? It surprises me that the JP management hasn't done anything yet. I guess they are waiting Wave 7.
>>30089491They've moved onto a new pippa yab, apparently, they found her old reddit posts
>>30089366ah fuck lmao, imagine if she quits hololive just because she can't play genshin
>>30089438
>>30089491The absolute state of western viewers. If the tranny stuff have the full force of the government supporting them then the west is no different from China. Thank god we don't.
>>30089555
>>30089396oh fuck, i just realized fucking TWAIN is managing /pcg/ in vt league 3. hope we face them.
>>30089438I think you are confusing her with someone else. She was the one with the least hype even before debut and the one predicted by most to be the least popular.Both Maria, with her cute voice, okay singing/dancing (from her PL videos) and knowledge around otaku culture and hobbies, and Scarle who was, wrongly, perceived as the sexy latina mommy were expected to be more popular.
>>30089536Nah, she's not that dumb given that she streamed it beforeAlso, she's currently playing another Mihoyo game, but not Genshin
>>30087869Japan doesn't have a generalized 'restraining order' like America. They have two provisions for human restriction that are similar, one for domestic violence and one attached to a anti-stalking law that is pretty ineffective since it requires them to give a fuck about the stalking in the first place.
>>30089555bullysanji lol
>>30089535qrd?
>>30089001The same can be said with Chammer ... Hopefully Kobo won't be caught in the same trap
>>30089529Magni and Nowa somehow being in stars is fucking bizarre. No fucking way these dudes didn't apply to NijiEN first.
>>30089662Yeah, you'd be better off not knowing about Kobo situation
>>30089535It’s likely the same yabe, Phase Connect likely shifting from /here/tubers to /woke/tubers and the blowback with the /here/crowd. It’s just “Nyanner disavow lolis” 2022
>>30089674magni aim for holo, but nowa seem also apply for niji
>>30089674Maglord PL loves idol stuff tho, no?
>>30089223>>30089253Botan idea, Pekora execute itEither way those 2 can rally people, Botan can't so if she want MC event she would still need PekoMiko anyway
we need more kovalskias in JP, i need my PoE autist holo
>>30089674I'm grateful that Niji never accepted 2view as their liver
>>30089529I mean, they kinda had to set some requirements to have manageable number of entries to choose from, but either those in Iluna are best of those that passed requirements, or their scouting is really bad as you said anon, and need to be replaced ASAP.Maybe they should wait with the release of Wave 7 and make sure that they won't flop like Iluna
>>30089674you can't imagine someone wanting to be a founder, a culture builder, rather than forcing themselves to fit a mold? also, for all we know the onboarding takes longer for HoloStars and they were the first acceptance given
>>30089674I don't think Magni applied to Nijisanji EN. From the few videos people have linked about him he seemed like a Hololive fan and I've even read a comment talking about him being into idols or wanting to become an idol or something.I can see Vesper applying for both in hopes that he'll get accepted by one of them.The point is that even wtihout Vesper, who was funnily enough discussed as a potential debut in the Nijisanji EN thread for months, there must have been thousands of applicants and I would be very surprised if what we got is actually the best of them.
>>30089525Ok, maybe you should put yourself in the shoes of Cover's scout and think about it. Where are you going to find 5 streamers that1. are into vtubing, or at least willing to do so with certain amount of kayfabe2. 21 to 35 of age3. no baggage from their time as streamers4. no grudge5. is not a degenerate6. don't discuss politics7. no personal grudge either to or from other streamers8. talented in one way or another aside from streaming>and some more, willing to9. learn to sing10. learn to dance11. learn Japanese, or at least learn to know their culture12. willing to travel around the world for expoYou literally can't find anyone that streams and like anime in English speaking sphere that is not also a degenerate with some baggage. I believe Kronii got in because they have no other option already, on top of her godly voice of course.
>>30088994Crunchyroll likes money
>>30089590Not yet lmaoPray to whatever that's holy so Dem won't win this term lel>>30089617Which one, there're like ... 6 of them atm
>>30089218yeah Illuna didn't do as well as expected
CRX is today right?
>>30089766Where is my civ4xg autist vtuber? I don't care what language she speaks I will watch her.
>>30089218Aster had 7 people there ooof
>>30088994You can't call it HoloExpo lite when Nijisanji is the main attraction. Hololive only gets to have a few tiny panels while Enna and Millie get to sing on the main stage with Hime herself.
>>30089807lurk moar
>>30089674Magni wouldn't even go vtubing if he fails at a stars audition. He's a hetero male dude with a dancing hobby and owner of a doctorate in ligma. He could earn $100k+ annually on a normal job. The only reason he joined hololive is because he doesn't want to turn vtubing as a full time job. Streaming a minimum 3 times a week is the requirement. He could stream 2 hours a day for 5 times a week to generate more income per hour than a regular office worker.
>>30089848>display MV as CM on frickin tv
>>30089839Today's Thursday in burger time anon, CRX starts on Friday
>>30089064She can just play them offline what
>>30089694QRD?
HOLY SHIT! The N filter works for real!>pic related
>>30089848about time you showed up, getting a bit worried with the lack of expo gaslighting posts
>>30089836Better than Tempus today dumbass
>>30089674nowa?
>>30089529I mean, to be fair, Ren isn't that bad on stream all things considered, he's just a dumbass
>>30089905>niggerelf unpersonedBased.
>>30089766we already have 35 streamers, we have no issues with dead hours in the hours that actually matter, i'd rather have people that do concentrated creative content than just ars almal or hal but in holo
>>30089913newfag spotted
>>30089905Heh, no cheating time time Flare
>>30089910lol no
>>30089905You forgot to also remove the upper thumbnail and the channel one.
>>30089913I would've preferred his name to be alucard. It's a general name that's been used a lot.
>>30089897Ask /warkop/ for more in-depth, but she's basically 4 different yabs waiting to happen and you can only pray Ollie and Reine could steer her clear
>>30089905why you bully flare?
Tempiss reclined hard huh? As expected of homoshitters
>>30089913holostars duh
>>30089913towa..
>>30089773Yeah, people keep saying "EN 3 when" before realize that this is the "Bare minimum" that Cover looking for nowadays Now apply that to what we know about EN streaming sphere in general, and it's ... Not great ...
>>30089905>applying the n filter to flarecome on man
>>30089910>Better than Tempus today dumbassNo they were not
>>30088348We kinda knew this would happen. Fujos are fucking disgusting man, shoulda nipped that shit but they allowed it for money.
>>30089905no more excuses tallyanon
>>30089913Towa is THE OG holostar, yes.
>>30089905It's tally anon botting, as Z won't be counted anymore
>>30089913nokoyami nowa...
>>30089913nokyo nower...
>>30089968NTA but I don't need the indepth, I just need to know what yabs I need to look out for.
>>30089968>Asking me to dive in the den of the Indon*Sigh*Fine, but if they're nothingburgers then I'm coming for your ass
>>30089972
>>30089773>21 to 35 of ageWait, what, that's a hard requirement?
>>30089913
>>30090027>>30090029It's basically the same Lap+ yabs
is mario kart a debuff?
>>30089993Uh huh, Tempus only has Vesper but that will not stop Stars from being shitter so sit the fuck down
>>30090035Don't think that is a hard requirement but the talent has to be of legal age and probably not too old.
>>30089674Magni loves Holo. He said his goal is to make Stars reach new heights
>>30088592Bring back rainfurrest just so Luxiem can go appear at it
>>30090046Was hoping we'd get more gakuen handsome memes out of him
>>30090046twappi
>>30089913Before Vesper, people usually call VSPO's Noah as Nowa...
>>30090069depends on how good you are and what you're doing for it, however these days it's impossible to make it work without a gimmick, a collab or a tournament
>>30089905Flare deserve to be bullied. She lose the 1 million sub race to fucking Polka and Sora
>>30090075Are you looking a the same table? Every Tempus outranks at least one iLUNA
French is a stupid language. Why is Noir pronounced as "no-wa" instead of "no-ir"?
>>30090075
>>30090134
>>3009003518-21 and you get a woman who's busy with collegeAnd I doubt you can find a 35+ western hag who can stream as an anime girl
In board news someone is really desperate and trying to shill some dinosaur game on the board>>30087358>>30089877
>>30090084>Magni loves Holo. He said his goal is to make Stars reach new heightsHe can dream that until his graduation then because Stars will remain in the shitter as long as they exist.
>>30090157it's not even pronounced like that, that's the jp version
>>30090187Lol he himself is already bringing it to new height
>>30090187
>>30089121anon, even rushia has said she isn't menhera
>>30090189It is even more retarded? Damn the Brits shouldn't have saved the French, twice at that.
>>3009018770k debut 11 days ago, btw.
>>30090046Would
>>30090166
>>30090075Retard. Aster has 7 people come to him. Magni and Axel are split views. Only Ren is really okay
>>30089773>5. is not a degenerate>6. don't discuss politicsKiara>9. learn to sing>10. learn to danceOptional given that EN1 and EN2 still have bad singers and dancers>11. learn Japanese, or at least learn to know their cultureI don't think this matters>12. willing to travel around the world for expoWhy would any woman reject getting paid to travel to other locations for expos?
>>30089674>>/vt/image/3cXHJWiVsF2XBqVZxJhcoQSome guy over in the nijien thread has been summoning him almost everyday for months, must've been crushed when Tempus debuted.
>>30090218What height? Losing to many Iluna members, or losing to NijiEN girls?His numbers can't even approach the lowest Noctyx member.
>>30090231why are italians like this?
>>30090187>>30090224>>30090241Feels good being a JPchad, I get to laugh at both nijiEN, homoEN and occasionally holoEN
>>30090064Checked the thread, and yeah, from my understanding it's likely thatAlthough it's "Potential" so ... I'm holding my breathThen again, as long as it doesn't spill outside /here/ and Twitter, then I assume it's fine for now
>>30089773And they still have to settle with Council who is a bunch of decent hires at best
>>30090130But she gets Noel boobs, so I think she won in the end
>>30090187>>30090075>>30089910>>30090271
>>30090284
>>30090284don't make me bring up Roboco's numbers jpcuck
>>30090259Kiara never discussed politics? She is not a degenerate either.>Why would any woman reject getting paid to travel to other locations for exposTraveling is fun for vacation, not so fun for work.
>>30090035Well Nowa either is on the end of the spectrum ot lied about his age
>>30090309Not even a nijishitter faggot, go back
>>30090263Do you think he's the Nowa schizo?
>>30090263damn this guy must be heartbroken rn.
>>30090295explain to me why we don't use this as the op again?
>>30090157What do you expect from a country that spells "randevu" as rendszdfodgndljvous
>>30090121Isn't he's doing an viewers participation stream? That's a damn big buff
>>30090314誰
>>30089491Is Tenma the only one there worth a damn?
>>30090180What the
>>30090336
>>30090373
>>30089993The Magni Axel collab shows that Tempus' box is still relatively small, since a dual POV kills their numbers. But the starsbox is more united and willing to check them out when they are not overlapping
OI! Knock it off!
>>30086673His project zomboid did pretty good. Looking forward to more tonight.
>>30090392
>>30090271Tell me about Holostar number before Tempus. They were a brand of literally 3view and now they have a bunch of dude who can consistently hit 4 digits. That is a new height
>>30090329Stars are a special case, since there is an actual ojisan in JP
>>30090420
>>30090259>11. learn Japanese, or at least learn to know their culture>I don't think this mattersGo back and open virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI Ren
One meme explaining stream and most of vt is already Vesper's allies, how does he do it?Aside from Yagoo, it seems Noir is the 2nd guy vt-bros will fight tooth to nail to defend against all schizos.
>>30090075What's with Nijisis' obsession with sitting down damn at least don't make it obvious that you come from Twitter.
>>30090404https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLRv0b6wJlA
>>30090271you do know that we can use the number tracking sites and compare the numbers of gaming / non-event streams with each other right? what do you have to gain from telling such embarrassing lies?
>>30089905Nigger filter... what now you fence sitting dwarf?
>>30090433
>>30090326>Kiara never discussed politics? She is not a degenerate either.her PL
Tempissfags need to realize that no one likes them. The rest of the Holo fanbase hate Tempus and their fans, be it JPfans, ENfans or IDfans
>>30090457I give up
>>30090373kek I love this edit because how his hands copping the boobs
>>30090466>PLkys nijifriend
>>30090473nijiseethe
>>30090436qrd?
>>30090399>since a dual POV kills their numbersThey don't have a "box" yet, all they have is people that gave their debut a chance and stuck around. Having a box causes the opposite effect of what you are implying too, a "box" means a shared audience which, of course will get split if they're at the same time.
>>30090436Bruh, he is the /here/ brochuuba everyone dreamt about.
>>30090473now now, stop larping as a holofren, nijibros.
>>30090494
>>30087467Laplus had the potential to become next Pekora/Miko/Subaru/Marine until it became obvious she's a menhera who doesn't have the motivation or stamina to grind Minecraft and other popular games daily.
>>30089905Furea is allowed to N. She appropriated this from her oppressors.
>>30090473It's kinda interesting since most of the Luxiem fujos said that Tempus had boring personalities. I wonder what sort of content is interesting to them.
>>30090473*/hlgg/ elitists don't like themFtfy. And that's why the thread if fucking dead
>>30090436he is the brotuber /vt/ always asked.
>>30090521
>>30090521I'm this close to be a Nowa anti
>>30090499say what you want about omegai's other decisions, but the one hour limit is actually amazing for keeping the debut tourist around for as long as possible
>>30090466No? I've seen her shitty webcam recorded sideview concert and other shits that was posted back then. None of that suggest she is degenerate or discussed any politics. She is the whitest white woman in the vtubing world from her conduct, almost Karen level.
>>30090524Her marshmallow collab with Peko still drew a huge audience though so there still is interest in her it seems
>>30090538don't count me in, i didn't ask for shiti still don't want male vtubers
>>30088167she leaked a bunch of stuff to some private fan discord (several Niji auditions) and the stuff is starting to filter out into the dox sites
Why watch a brotuber when you can watch this?
why are falseflaggers using pegora
>>30090578nobody cares what you want nijikek
>>30090533>the thread is deadYou can stop posting bullshit
>>30090580So they've finally started to shovel it out? I know you faggots have mentioned they were sitting on some stuff, but I can't be bothered to chase things like that nowadays...
>>30090584pornhub is free
>>30090556I disagree that it is a good decision, but the boys made it work by chaining their streams for a longer presence.Had they been dumb and spread their streams along the day, leave too much of a gap between them, their audience would be a fraction of what it is today
Man, with every new Tempus stream, we get new and exciting shitpost material Happy for true Starfag tho, ngl, they finally get what they want
>>30090584
>>30090574nousagi is interested in everyone who seem friendly with Pekora
>>30090532Bottom, cum, choke you like i hate you but I love you, bark bottom, gasp repeatedly while doing ring fit, moans and cums
>>30090574Pekora and Matuli should tard wrangle her moroe, especially Matuli. She knows how a menhera thinks.
>>30090599/mans/fags are delusional as ever, this was earlier today
do you think mysta will start walking the brotuber path in the near future?
>>30090619Yeah, except for Shion. She is too boring.
>>30090588>not wanting male vtubers>nijikeklmao
>>30090654it's too late
>>30090661Nousagi simply aren't fat old or balding enough yet
Brotuber meme just doesn't work with the vtuber industry. The culture clash is too much for it to be successful so people need to stop with that.
>>30090584I love that they're always talking about other NijiEN livers sexual preferenceSome family they got there
>>30090643>>30090599Tempissfags in shambles, Hololive fans thriving
>>30090484You complain about being hard to find a streamer that don't discuss politics, but that's irrelevant since the management can just forbid them to talk about politics like how they did it with Kiara>>30090434>Go back and open virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI RenEN members that can speak Japanese>Kiara >Baelz>IRyS>Sana (graduated)>Mori (average)>Ina (average)EN members that can't speak Japanese>Amelia>Gura>Fauna>Kronii>MumeiFor some of them it's been almost 2 years since they debuted and they know less japanese than the average /vt/ shitposter
>>30090703Ok, (you) got a chuckle out of me.
>>30090674Probably the same retards replying to a pekoposter with antiniji magposting
>>30090473i like homoENsi hate fujos though
>>30090691>EOP
>>30090735based
>>30090713The "or at least learn their culture" part is important. Out of the ones that do not speak I'll make a huge jump and say all of them are at very least familiar with the gist of japanese entertainment culture
>>30090691nijiseethe
>>30090713NTA but the original anon who post the thing. Have you read the second part of rule 11 posted by me?
>>30090568I'm not going to spoonfeed you and get a ban, you can look it up in the archives
>>30090713I can't believe Mori still can't speak fluent Japanese until today. She is on par with the Chink construction workers working in Japan.
>>30090425Is Aruran actually an old geezer? When I tuned in the first time and heard his voice I thought he was just a young guy. Speaking of that, I don't mind when older people use a younger looking Vtuber model but it's kind of a put off for me when it's the other way around
>>30090713>Mori (average)you guys never stops being funny
>>30090732
>>30090830please do not shitpost about my oshi.
man, there really is zero hype around leos' koshien run huh
EN3 ?
>>30090654It's not happening unless he can convince the rest of Luxiem to stop being faggots or if another popular massive faggot shows up and Nijisanji starts shilling them to the fujos.
>>30090807Happens to western expats in most countries. They live in expat heavy areas, hang around among themselves, eat in international fast food chains and for all intents they might as well be teleconferencing from their respective countries because it’s like they never set foot abroad.
>>30090807What shocked me was that Mori apparently spent more time in Japan than Kiara did.
>>30090866didn't even break 20k in the first half hour even with salami in the thumbnail.
>>30090793No really, I've seen all those. Maybe she was, but as least she didn't bring them up again, not even on her rm acc.
>>30090830
>>30090866He literally lost every first match during the 1st year and didn't even get any notable players in 2nd year, he's the rock bottom of all 8 participating members.
It's interesting to me how, despite the numerous good entries from Hololive, people just keep doomposting about the next wave of Hololive
>>30090870No earlier than late September
>>30090766>>30090757You mean the dumb "culture" part? What japanese "culture" are we talking about apart from watching anime and reading manga? They just play video games on stream for fucks sake
>>30090889>>30090895Exactly. Kiara put in more effort than Mori, and yet Mori surpassed her just because she can sing more.
>>30090568
>>30090937Nintendo of Vtubing
>>30090807There is literally no point in learning a new language even if you're living in another country because expats just hang around with other expats and locals don't really want to interact with you.
>>30086669>bargain bin version of bargain bin Guraoof
>>30090937People look at how bad indies are and think that Holo is going to hire them. But historically they never hired indie vtubers but always hired content creators who weren't vtubers before instead
>>30090950Nah, Mori (like Eminem) was smart to find a small niche to become a big fish in a small pond. She even stacked buffs: white rapper, western in Japan, tomboyish
>>30090994What's the difference between expat and immigrants?
>>30090912Well, that's the point, they join hololive, they get told what they can't say. If Kiara could do it, then that's not an issue at all
>>30090960Based Austrian inciting racial violence in America for the pay back in WW2.
>>30090632>MatuliYeah, about that ...
>>30090994Well, no point in doing that if your are just working there a few years and will get back home soon. Mori's career is mostly built up in Japan.
>>30090994Of course, if your brain is the size of a pea and you want the “tourist trap” experience of being in a country without actually being experiencing anything. Doing that is like taking your car to a beach parking lot and staying inside; windows rolled up. That’s actually something, as anon said, you would expect from a Chinese indenture servant or a barely literate Central American crossing the American southern border illegally.
Funny reading laplus talk, she just started streaming valo on twitch lol.
>>30090713>since the management can just forbid them to talk about politics like how they did it with KiaraSo you're saying NijiEN management don't do that?
>>30090960huh... guess mods are asleep if they gonna keep this shit up
>>30090937Mel's gonna pick out some random girl in her local grocery store, and she also goes on to become a 10k+ median streamer.
>>30090960how is this post older than 1 minute and not deleted yet, en jannies asleep?
>>30091060She was out of menhera phase entirely. I reli beleeb it.
>>30091006Funny you said that because that's the hiring process for Iluna. NijiEN management wants to secure the normie crowd so they went for normies youtubers with 100k subs.
>>30091097Of course they don't, they are trying to sell the branch as inclusive and diverse
Why stream when you can get the VOD viewership equivalent of a NijiEN daily stream...just from one video.
>Magni Spore>Noir Project Zomboid>FridayThis is it, this where they go back to 7-8k. T-Today was just a fluke... Axel and Regis are fucked tho theyre doing a split pov on a gaarbage game
this is kind of sad.
>>30091106kek, proof that jannies have completely abandoned /#/. we're all alone...
>>30091129So did she manage to learn Japanese?
>>30091151It's unironically over for Tempus
>>30091129Isn't duolingo a debuff for anyone else?
MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP. it's already gained like 16k views in the last 12 hours.
>>30091151Today Magni and Axel are testing their floors, tomorrow Axel and Regis are testing their floors.
>>30090180PLAY IT AKIROSE!
>>30091024Immigrants assimilate and their offsprings start acting like half breed freaks of nature. Expats are usually there for work or because the 3rd world country they're in has cheap living expense.
>>30091175 (me)meant for>>30091129
>>30091119Well Niji looked at the wrong content creators
>>30090866He's not getting a call back next year lol
I wonder how flabson feels about iron lung using a holomem in her lore video.
>>30091168Like it's not even 2 weeks and they're always below Iluna. Tempus is just that shitty as streamers. They're so boring with nothing entertaining at all.
>>30091120>MFW I remember they got Sony's hand on themAh ...
>>30090284Denjyarasuly based, but the objectively best thing to do nonetheless. Cheers fellow JPchad.
I wonder how many od Pekora's subs are overseas fans. She thanks in Japanese for 2M as if it was only Japs who are subbed to her pff. It would be funny to see all kaigainikis unsub now and bring her back to 1.5M and see her reaction lmao
>>30091254Especially Noir. Dude has zero talent.
>>30091236Ange should replace him
>>30091129Good video at pulling people back to rabbit hole
>>30091092>valor or apexShe really don't like to play anything else huh. Actually she was really good in GFE stuff, if only she got Chloe's model...
>>30090946Vtubers are Japanese in origin, and have a bunch of unspoken rules rooted in Japan's extreme social autism about politeness and respect for your seniorsThe EN scene has a distinct oldfag/newfag split on this. The oldfags and weebs (HoloEN, Pomu, Ironmouse) respect it while the newfags and trend chasers (the rest of Vshojo, most of NijiEN, etc) don't, and their fans follow suitThis is why there was such a hard split between people calling the shotgun Twitter mentions retarded and people saying it was nothing
>>30091183Tomorrow might be the first 3view Tempus stream
>>30091199>Europe and America expats existsC mon now anon ...
Stop responding to the Tempus samefag. Just put him down
>>30091275I don't mind because I actually did my reps and become the last samurai.
>>30091170This VOD sucks power from every Duolingo stream, that's why they're debuffs
so much bait in the last few minutes
>>30091305>HoloEN, Pomukys
>>30090925That's sounds terrible. He's wasting Salami potential.
>>30091024It's a cope word to not be labeled as immigrants when they "grace" their country of choice with their "glorious" presence. Primarily used by people from the UK since they can't cope with being called an immigrant.
>>30091314Unironically I think Regis tops out at 900 and Axel at 1.5k
>>30091362Has Salami started collabing yet?
>>30091333Truly SEA hours
More clip numbers.Miko(2->1) dethrones Marine's(1->2) 5 day streak with Rust. Others within Rust also benefitted, such as Pekora(5->3), Suisei(21->17), Polka(50->35). These clips are spread between them, which is a net +525k across the four.Subaru(8->4) does well with a particularly good clip (LlbCvoqQnt0, +402k) which unfortunately has the side-effect of being distributed incorrectly due to the channel tagged all of holoX within their signature. I plan on catching these cases more in the future when I have time to do another round of checks.Otherwise, Kobo(10->8) and Koyori(12->10) is the only other top10 on an incline.Good performances by Mumei(16->11), Kronii(24->13), Lamy(22->15), Kokoro(114->29), Fuwa(41->31), Botan(48->37).Split today is 18.5M(+300k) HL to 12.1M(+500k) NJ.
>>30091384yeah, with me
>>30090284Oy, JPchad, when was the last time your oshi actually acknowledged your existence?
>>30091384With Kuzuha, Saku and 2 others literally whos. I hope she collab with Debi to disperse the rumor once and for all.
>>30091361Are you suggesting she's not a notable outlier in her company in terms of understanding JP social normsShe's a fucking idol otaku
>>30091402What game?
>>30091305What's inboarding?They are not going to reject an EN candidate because she didn't do her japanese twitter etiquette reps
>>30091392Graph.
>>30091321You mean expats in America? Yeah, they're there for work and will retire to a cheaper country, usually their home country.
>>30091438Expats always go back to their own countries anon...
>>30091413No, she did not appear with them. She appeared in the same shill stream they did at a different time with two fleshpeople
SO is indonesia cut off from 4chan?
>>30091392is koyori doing well because of the fucking pussy fireworks
>>30091464Still a collab nontheless.
>>30091459No? Lots of whites retire abroad and are usually called expats.
>>30091411I dont need my existence acknowledged, her big numbers, consistent schedule and entertaining streams are enough for me
>>30091500Immigrants anon. Don't use the cope word.
>>30091500There are a lot of them but majority actually go back to their original country.
>>30091151QUICK /MANS/, MAG HARDERPUT THE MAG COAL IN THE MAG ENGINE
>>30091490How is appearing in a completely different segment of a shill stream a collab exactlyThey exchanged zero words on screen
>>30091482clearly not because the quality of posts are still bad here
>>30091490>never talk to or appear together with someone>still a collab!What the fuck do you think a collab is?
>>30090945I remember when it was EN3 for late July and StarsEN was Late Sept/early OctI cant believe it actually was the reverse.
>>30091024>>30091199>>30091459The difference is from the point of view of the speakerImmigrant refers to someone from another country coming to YOUR countryExpat refers to people who are native of YOUR country but went abroad
>>30091380Bet your balls on it? Keep in mind it's at primetime
>>300914824chan is not profitable for Indonesian people so it's not blockedThey only blocked useful site like steam, paypal, github, stackoverflow, etc
>>30091305Just like 4chan then
>vshojo leeching on hololive for their loreroru. rumao. shameless
A reminder that this is the only stream that will matter todayhttps://youtu.be/4gisKCu30OI
>>30091578Why are government around the world always retarded regardless of race or political alignment?
>>30091575Alright I was joking. I am actually predicting low 2k for both.
>>30090807anon didn't you hear her speak the other day?
>>30090946>What japanese "culture" are we talking aboutIt's the small thing that can make or break a streamer.For instance: asking for permission before using something that belong to others.I like to bring this example below because it is a microcosmos of the type of relationship they will end up having with their japanese coworkers.1) Korone PANICKING for having sheered a single Haachama sheep and taking one unit of wool without asking permission.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-nUbkj5kawShe genuinely felt bad for taking it even if the sheep would just grow the wool again by eating grass, as she didn't have permission to do so.It is silly from the western perspectives of "move fast and break things" but the Japanese care deeply about this type of stuff and if you are working under a japanese company, understanding this can help you a great deal.2) Ollie almost getting herself cast as a thief and persona non grata (mostly by the JP audience) because she "stole" diamond in the Usaken Trade Center.She came >< this close of antagonizing the whole JP audience watching Minecraft and the one thing that saved her was Moona (very seriously and uninonically) killing her to punish her for her transgression, restituting the item and absolving her from that point onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlpB222oPkYAgain, this ended up being played for laughs but had Ollie kept the diamond she would absolutely gain herself a fuckton of JP antis from the getgo and would unironically be branded a thief, even if it is a worthless trinket in a worthless block game.Understanding the culture of your employers and of your shared audience is important. It's in the small things that resides what makes or breaks a career
>>30091603the rabbit is up against a nijisanji 3D debut, koshien and fuwa-chan's morning callisthenics. she won't even hit the podium.
>>30091420Which is why NijiEN and its fanbase are behaving like that You think people shitting on unicorns are bad? Wait till they shit on whoever not calling the right pronoun of chubbas Which, after feesh's yab, we already have a taste of how it will be like
Are there any two-person pairings that get poor CCV on their own but somehow really good numbers when specifically collabing together?
>>30091625Too long. All that polite shit can be taught in a 30 minute inboarding briefing
>>30091625I mean good thing literally every single EN is autistic about taking or changing anything in mincraft from the other servers then. Maybe they got onboarded into this autism, or maybe its just a lucky coincidence
>>30091438No, I mean European/Americans working in other countries anon? What else you're gonna call Mori, Kiara and people like the TT gang?
>>30091153
>>30091625Don't forget about Korone panicking when she broke some scaffolding while touring the ferris wheel that Subaru built for her.
>>30091657who's the Koshien today? Leos haven't even groken 20k in an hour. The 3D debut should take it hands down, unless they've fucked up her model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQP7b8kk4A2 hours to go, 655 waiting room. Please give her a good model with breast physics. I know I'm going to be disappointed though.
>>30091611Consider who're running the governments in the world right now, and you'll see whyThey're either boomersOr fucking woman
>>30091684They're there for work OR to retire. It's was in my post. What's the problem here?
>>30091420>They are not going to reject an EN candidate because she didn't do her japanese twitter etiquette repsThe interview part works for that exact purpose. I do interviews for my company hiring process after HR do the first filtering and one thing that can sink even an otherwise qualified candidate is>would not fit the company cultureAfter a while you can sniff out who would become the troublemakers either for being too timid when you need a leader, or for being too extrovert when you're filling a position in a team of introverts.I assume vtuber companies can do the same for>rejected because would not get the cultural requirement to work here and end up with JAV codes in his screen during a stream
>>30091675There're people who's living in Japan for YEARS and still don't know a lot about all that shit anon
I forsee this image getting alot of use
>>30090556And what does that accomplish other than help /#/ win piss contests? What both EN branches need is some goddamn acceleration. If they leave Tempus out to dry as long as they did Myth (and then left Myth/Council again!) then inevitably interest in them will dry out all the same.>t-this won't happen they streamGet a hold of yourself shitposter, you neither know where they'll be in 10 months, nor do does streaming magically make you popular (see: Kiara).
>>30091734They did a good job with Nui and that other chick, I believe in them.
>>30091787That and THE GAMEBless uncle Nowa for giving us new shitpost material
>>30090532VoxASMRRPrules.png
>>30091684You call them migrant workers. Stop coping with "expats".
>>30091675Yeah right. Do you still remember the flight attendant's briefing on safety after they finished?
>>30091790It accomplishes keeping intrest for far longer than it would otherwise, do you not know what a debut buff is? Protip: It's not a concept we cooked up
>>30091790>What both EN branches need is some goddamn accelerationIt's not that I disagree but the way you phrased it, I can hear it in Riku overly excited voice in my mind
>>30091787I dont save images of males onto my PC
>>30091844well sucks to be you
>>30091826You are missing the difference. Expats is what you call beautiful white people in prestigious professions. Migrant workers is what you call smelly brown third worlders in menial jobs.It's an important distinction despite having no difference whatsoever
>>30091791Pretty much every female 3D debut they've had for the whole year has had rock solid breasts that I can remember. The older ones are unchanged at least.
>>30091839Riku is an extreme. But Hololive should have accelerated EN as hard as they accelerated JP (they had about 20 talents in 1 year when JP was starting), then slowed down.
>>30091790Kiara just streams in odd times. Also she is surprisingly lacking charisma. The Austrians I know all ooze charisma.
>>30091827Terrible analogyAll this culture talk is basically>don't touch stuff without permission on minecraft>if you break it, fix it
ENTER: EN GOLD
>>30091891are you trying to make a hitler joke?
>>30091783You can get away with fucking up social norms for a while (or if people think you're a tourist)Once you've been there for a few years anyone who knows that is absolutely going to give you shit for being rude even if it was unintentionalThis also applies if you're overseas but work for a Japanese company, that's why places like Nintendo of America have fully internalized Japanese autism
>>30091885Again, who tf can they hire to advance the hololive brand and don't be potential yab machines?
>>30091873Is Ange supposed to be flat? This fanart made me check her out but I'm assuming she just got huge milkers from a 3D model glitch at some point
>>30091734My point still stands... The waiting room ratio hasn't changed a bit.>>30087794
Niji gold?Niji gold.
Why are they all singing at the same time?
>>30091891>germanic woman>ooze charisma
>>30091895Gonna need some serious bots to get him to 28k, anon. I don't even recognize the others in that image. Who the fuck is the brown haired one? Young Belmond?
Man, even Tempus has a better reputation in here than NijiEN. What happened?
>>30091871nah, you call them immigrants/migrant workers. kiara spending time on her back while being a migrant worker just shows this to be true.
>>30091787
>>30091930Gross
>>30091885I absolutely do not disagree but what they need the most is not just hire more streamers but to create a proper Hololive English inftrastructure to support them.Imagine if HoloEN was not 11 people now but 21.You would have 21 people that would not have properly debuted (and be in a position to use at will) their 3D while HoloX would already have it.
>>30091921I am talking about the lesser known Prince Metternich and Kaiser Franz. But yeah that mustache guy is pretty charismatic too.
>>30091844>he says this with 100gb of porn with men and 10gb of memes with men on his PCjust say you hate male vtubers because you're scared they touch your oshi. no one would hate you.
>>30091965Faghttps://youtu.be/JeKMJIrLLho
>>30091941holojp has been horrible about scheduling lately
>>30091924You just let the scouting machine from Cover do their job. They have better track records than Nijisanji in finding new niches and talents.Hololive has never disappointed, even with the least popular group.
>>30091957Maybe brown smelly third worlders would say that, but that's not how it's said in the west
>>30091941Will try to catch the stream who's the best singer out of all
Koyori using gurabuff..
>>30091970Yeah but they're doing NEITHER. They're not debuting enough chubas to hold the market down properly, nor are they supporting the ones they have properly.
>>30091930She is completely flat. The huge milkers is a long time joke because she wishes she had them, like 15 minutes of her 3D debut was her getting comically oversized breasts like the top left of that picture.
>>30091956this place in particular really fucking hates nijisanji because of nijiniggers constantly misuing numbers to try and get a win over hololive no matter how much they have to stretch things, so it's not surprising
>>30091992Coomer
>>30091970Ok, since you insist. Let's say NijiEN only hired men, and HoloEN got all their women to get the numbers you wanted. How would take actually turn out, use your fucking brain dumbass.>can just hire indiesWhich small indie fits hololive?
M-MY EMPEROR.....>WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOUR BEAUTIFUL NUMBERS!
>>30091996anon, only faggots from the UK calls themselves expats to make them feel better or as you put it, not be compare to brown people. It's 100 % a cope word for a country that still lives in the dream that they once were an empire.
>>30092016Why do you seethe so much about the Kaela Gura buff thing, anon?
>>30091945Which brown haired one? There's several.
>>30092032Shame. Ah well, Nuezou will always have the material
>>30092016it's not like she can't get 10k on minecraft by herself, she got like 15k for doing deep dark shit
>>30091995We are looping back to this post >>30089773
>>30092048Did you misread the post? I think they should hire more people, but I think they should fix their support structure first so they can support the existing talent and the eventual new hires
>>30092040That and their wins are never.>pfhahaha, we win today fuckersThey're always>WITH THIS ONE VICTORY IN THE LUNAR CYCLE, NIJI HAS FOREVER DESTROYED THE HOLOWHORES, WHO WILL NEVER EVER RECOVER FROM THEIR RECLINE
>>300919303D debut joke. https://youtu.be/SPp4g-rTLTI?t=165
>>30091921Or Arnold. Austrians are just natural German leaders since they speak the language and have the same autism but have been civilized for longer.
>>30091930>>30092032oh also its the meme of Nui's Koshien team. Everyone she picked has large to massive breasts, except Ange and Maimoto. Lots of art of them losing to the overwhelming breast flesh and things like that.
>>30092060>only faggots from the UK calls themselves expats to make them feel better or as you put it, not be compare to brown peopleThat makes it a good thing
Expats is what you call yourselves to the people at home.IE: You're from UK, you live in Japan. The japs see you as a migrant, the UK people see you as an expat.
>>30091766Nippleboi....
>>30092040I only hate NijiENfags, actual NijiJP watchers in this thread are usually alright.
>>30092060I'm not westerner and I was still called an expat when I was working in Malaysia. Take your whining to twitter, you're not going to change anything here.
>>30091941>Pekora funneled AZKi the 3rd of July>AZKi now owes her one funnel as well so she's using it tonight with her buffest contentPekora I KNEEL TO YOU AND YOUR UNMATCHED NUMBERFAGGING BRAIN
>>30091956NijiEN fans are all newfags who convinced themselves this is a Niji anti thread despite it unironically having more discussion of Kuzuha, Maimoto, etc. than the rest of the board
>>30092127>mixing with various flavour of Slavs and Italians for most of their history>have been civilized for longerrorumao
>>30092155based
>>30092140Nah, I disagree with his general tone but >>30092060 has it right that it is mostly an anglo thing.In my country and language people that move abroad call themselves "emigrants" and, obviously, will be called by the host country population "Immigrants"."Expat", as in "expatriated", is really a cope word for brits and former colonials that assigned a negative meaning to the word "immigrant" and don't really like to apply it to themselves
>>30092096Its The Secret®, they're trying to manifest it into being.
>>30092176Man, I remember when the board had a genuinely neutral to friendly attitude towards NijiEN. And its only gotten worse and worse every gen since Obsidya
>>30092096Don't forget the>Selen gained 45k subs last month, that means she's doing better than Gura because she only gained 40k, SEETHE AND COPE HOLOKEKStier posts that's pretty much contributes nothing to the thread other than pissing holofags off, and then they turn around and wonder why this place hates nijisanji so much
>>30091995It's not the scouting the problem, but supporting them, see >>30091970
watch daily tally anon not use the N-filter i bet my left nut on this.
>>30092006Is that a really question? AZKi is on par with Suisei.
>>30092281He starts with liveranking numbers which is the one site that isn't doing anything about them
>>30092235>Pfhahahha NijiEN is getting a song with CRUNCHYROLL HIME HERSELF holokeks all you have is like 20 panels and meet and greetsThe examples are honestly endless.
>>30091675you can tell them these norms but it will not be ingrained in their behaviour until they learn it the hard way (in a major yab)as much as i don't care for holoen management, them being extra cautious with jp collabs early on was probably the right approach. they did have minor yabs like the amongus and fbk thing but had they opened the floodgate, it could have been worse.
>>30091941Talking about this, why isn't vsinger a bigger thing? Ugliest people with the best voice can finally be heard around the world.
>>30092226They misunderstood "meme magic" which, in an absurd twist of fate and irony, derives a lot of it's power from the same line of thinking of Alinsky "Rules for Radicals".Niji blokes in this thread and board (and away) fail for a couple of reasons, one of them for not minding this one important rule>Rule 6) A good tactic is one your people enjoy.Compare and contrast: /mag/ vs. NijiEN reception for ILUNA.
>>30092306yet. isn't liveranking the one that added the (!) at the end of fuwa's stream?
Why don't Konami manage their own Koshien tournament and invite talents to battle against each other like Hal every year instead of Nijisanji? They can invite 2 talents from Holo and Nijis, 2 from popular streamers or Vspo/Neoporte. It would increase their reach for the game.
>>30092281>>30092306I doubt an extreme case like Fuwa's will repeat but now with both vstats and vrabi acknowledging the problem he'll at least have to make a explicit call
>>30092385nope, that's Vstats, the superior numberfagging platform
>>30092388holobeggars................
>>30092252Even if they're trying to build a true EN infrastructure, we absolutely have no idea since the talents are hush-hush about everything. They might already have an office and the entire /vt/ is still in the dark.The whole "Hololive not supporting EN talent" rrat has never been proven right either.
>>30091990No, its because I like watching cute girls doing cute things. I don't want to watch males play games
>>30092385That was vstats. Liveranking didn't record it at all because it was too short, so he took the number from niji-mado (lol)
Is the vtuber era nearing it's end in the west? I have a feeling.
>>30092388Things are easier and cheaper when you outsource to someone that can do it better. I doon't need holo playing baseball spreadsheet because baseball is stupid.
>>30092426Truth be told it got recorded as 50k+ on vstats too ,that's why vstats started fixing it
>>30092375Are there even memes for Iluna? During the pre-debut, this place was filled with Mag memes.These days, it's a combination of Mag memes and Vesper memes.
>>30092414>The whole "Hololive not supporting EN talent" rrat has never been proven right either.Rrat? You fucking moron, as long as you see no results its no rrat.
>>30091657Didn't she just beat 2/3 of those thing yesterday?The only Koshien that get a gold so far this month is King Koshien
>>30092433Who will bring the final yab to us?
Damn Mumei's meme cover is gonna reach 1 million faster than A New Start. I guess being so short really helps.
>>30092414>the entire /vt/ is still in the dark.I can't believe they didn't inform a bunch of retards on a taiwanese papercraft forum about their backend plans.
>>30092443It was changed on vstats by the time the tally was compiledVrabi recorded the Z peak, one of the reasons people gave him shit is he took an even higher Z peak from a niji-specific website instead
>>30092388they won't invite hololive, they consider hololive as their direct competitor
>>30091175It's literally pulling more numbers than the Renai Circulation cover lmao
>>30092453Again, fucking show me proof that management doesn't support HoloEN. Hololive is not Nijisanji to numbskull
People actually think you can poof out a studio with all the technical support and manpower with just money and material like in games, lmao.
>>30092388>Konami>Sucking anyone but Anycolor dickYeah no they can play their baseball idc
why can't hololive have this level of unity?
>>30092509I could start my own Vtuber corpo RIGHT NOW and have anons from this thread as my Livers
>>30092359They kinda are, you probably have heard of Kafu or Isekaijoucho, or if we're going to the extreme border HIMEHINA which were intended to be VSinger but with vtuber side gig of uploading contents. It's just that compared to current Vtubers who make their name known mostly through livestream there's only few ways to get familiar to them if you're new.
The problem with EN 3D is and always has been the Japanese government. They've been issuing official advice that the borders will reopen within a few months basically every month since coof started and it never happensIf you're running a business you can't make big investment decisions like building and staffing an overseas mocap studio on the assumption that your government is lying to you
>>30092560>VRThe fuck is that?
>>30092491>people gave him shit is he took an even higher Z peak from a niji-specific website insteadI was there, he posted this T tally and told people to figure out themselves.Cowardly, yes but at very least not misleading
>>30092375the main issue is that most of the nijifags we get in this thread do this shit out of a petty "This thread does this shit which triggers us, so we'll do it in reverse to trigger them" which means they are perpetually one step behind, and of course since it's so petty they can't actually convince anyone to actually get on board what they are selling so the entire "movement" is pretty much kept afloat by one or two guys operating purely on butthurt.>>30092450the only memes they've tried to push are all variations of existing vtuber memes, like rape or that mag shit they are trying to do for ren. Unironically Aia actually has good meme potential because of the cough shit, but nijikeks are stuck too far up their own ass to capitalize on it, see the previous paragraph
>>30092176Well, except maybe the 2434 thread, and I do remember there being one bloke who was annoyed that we kept mentioning names so we kept popping up whenever they did their archive reps....
>>30092589virtuarealthe other nijicn
>>30092603what do we do about the dwarf menace?
>>30092507There is no proof that they don't support them at all, moron. Just that Cover isn't making an effort to give them equivalent support to JP.No 3d studios, no effort to work around the no studio limitation (for example, just launching their Hologra equivalent), no shows and collabs on the main channel etcI don't fucking care if Niji gets 0 management, its fucking niji. All they do is shit out zoomer streamers every 2 months.
>>30092509What is being discussed is that, if they can't do that, the EN branch is not really viable because it would forever be some sort of "poor cousin" of their main branch
>>30092577I do know about them and have watch some literally whos from RK and Riot, what I mean is that their ccv and subcount are generally much less than gaming or idol chuubas.
>>30092281He'll be using the Mado website like yesterday, which is a Nijikek website.
>>30092587pretty much, and that's also why the japanese economy is going down the shitter after 20 years of treading water
>>30092603Like I said, the 55526 is from niji-mado. Vrabi recorded it as 47990, which would still have been gold but is a significantly lower numberI don't think agency-specific websites should be used, especially if it doesn't change the order anyway
>>30092589NijiCN (forma del less popularity)
>>30092644Or Holostats, which is a Holo only website, if that's what records the highest peak for Holos
>>30092618So they can't directly say CN huh, lmao.
https://youtu.be/Cq0-TXegj-ohttps://youtu.be/Cq0-TXegj-ohttps://youtu.be/Cq0-TXegj-o>MAPPA GOLDMAPPA GOLD>MAPPA GOLDMAPPA GOLD
>>30092063The one that looks like a young belmond, anon. Mid upper row.
en3
>>30092634They can, it just takes time, especially in foreign country. US is especially cautious and protectionist against foreign corpo, even before drumpf.
>roberu was the only stars with enough balls to wish mumei a happy birthday somehow I’m both surprised and not surprised
>>30092702Chainsaw man, one of the most anticipated animes for a while.WIll they fuck it up or it'll be good for real?
>>30092625mori and kiara been on multiple main channel>umiseaiirc they had an en equivalent of the hologra writer position on their jobs listing. it's either been filled or scrapped since it's no longer listed. but yeah it takes time to get all that stuff setup. you need animators and video editors that can work with the writer/director that might be eop.
>>30092560>KR>IDThose aren't a thing anymore anon
16k koushien.what happened nijibros?
>>30092725sasuga harem MC
>>30092560Yagi looks like a sociopath
>>30092675Neither niji-mado nor holostats should be usedNot because I think they're biased, but because they may have a different data collection methodology that results in producing higher or lower numbers, and since they only cover a single agency you have no way of knowing if that's skewing the results
>>30092302AZKi is better than Suisei if you just mean technical skill.
>>30092673it's a joint venture with b2 so i'm sure they can't call it niji only
Wanting EN3 is a sign of autism.
>>30092560former ID and KR lol
>>30092725Roberu gets a pass from the curse for all the hard work he's done.
My Coyote wife is inclining.
>>30092725they had a collab beforesurprised aruran didn't do the same
>>30092764Only King or Maimoto Koshien are a threatSultan fucking dipped
>>30092779Both are used forever and before there was even a vstats or vrabi.That's a silly debate too, because what is actually used is live-ranking but they didn't pick up Fuwa stream.
mother fucker that's alot of singing starting in the next hour
>>30092741I'm still waiting for a Fire Punch anime, don't give a fuck about that overrated manga.
>>30092741The chainsawman fanbase is already full of schizos jerking off to their superior manga. Imagine if Mappa fuck it up.
>>30092702MAPPA I kneel!
>>30092779Holostats uses the exact same methodology as Vstats/vrabi and even shows graphs of CCV. It can be compared and checked. Mado, I don't know what the data file looks like, if it records only the highest peak for a stream etc, but it's been consistent for normal streams, it's just the spikes from Zs are fucky.
>>30092634I used to advocate for an ID studio instead since the ENs are scattered anyway and they can just travel there with ease but recent events made me reconsider. I didn't realize how goofy that country is.
>>30092794Be /here/ is also a sign
>>30092824yeah I know, I was expecting him to do soguess tempus have clear orders
>>30092748Umisea is Marine's thing, with Cover going>we can't possibly miss the chance to sell merch for this much star powerKiara and Mori on the main channel is japanese management making more content targeted at the JP audience. Where's the fucking EN channel content in english? Oh right, homo debut watchalongs and reuploading shorts.
>>30092855ID have a better chance imo. they at least have a physical office in jakarta alrerady.just need room, equipment and technical staff.
>>30092880I don't think anyone here denies that they are autists.
The fuck? I didn't even look the meme up how did it know
>>30092741Look at their fanbase and imagine the seethe if this is another flop like AoT
>>30092917The algo knows (it's clear there were people who went to look up the original video once Vesper mentioned it and it assigned the video relevance to you as a result of shared interest)
>>30092917Because you watch Nowa-oji. Other motherfuckers who watched him immediately went to watch that clip so Youtube think you might click on it if it shows you that.
>>30092917The power of fucking magposters, same shit happened to me back in their debuts
Here is the current power ranking for the Mario Kart collab>NijiEN (single POV)[POWER GAP]>NijiJP>NijiKR>NijiIDOut of the kaigai minor branches, Nari Yang is beating the sum of the rest and Hana Machia is the dead last of all
>>30092831First half is good, incest arc is ass
>>30092917that's the algo doing what it's supposed to do
>>30092981Shu is so fucking strong in JP collabs I don't get it and then gets like 5-7k in solo streams.
>>30092981From being one of the biggest English-speaking vtubers and having Mick Gordon show up to her Doom stream to this, dear lord
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1555503756426747906The queen has spoken.
>>30093006I'm only in for the cosplay, hot women in suits, yummy!
>>30093028He is strong in EN collab no?
>>30092917Giri Giri Watame is fucking garbage
>>30093035thats what happens when you stop pandering and actively go against you audience
>>30093028He had like a 16k solo Japanese zatsudan a couple months ago, he's basically a strong JP member instead of a Luxiemshart
>>30093036I WILL BE THERE
>>30093065Agree.
It's actually kind of depressing how dominating Hololive has become
>>30092560where are you when this happened
>>30092981Is this their attempt to make a nijibox? They know that it wouldn't work without the lower livers themselves making an effort, right?
>>30092917>980k viewsWhen I checked the video it was at 970k views
>>30092560two weeks ago https://twitter.com/i/status/1549306930706804736
>>30093081Why doesn't the JP Holobox support Irys?
Number bunny let's goooooooo
>>30093065Back to c*tube leechmin
>>30093116I hope VSPO finds more ground soon because two companies always at their throats 24/7 is getting stale
>>30093176Don't talk shit about my boy THEKanata
>>30093116Without a hint of shitposting Niji squandered their momentum by not fostering a corpus of clip channels or translations. They could have been the "wacky japanese game show" style of content to westerners with their various comedic 3d collabs and events but they stayed in Japan and lost the chance to become a global brand.
>>30093143Does IRyS stream?
>>30093116??? Sure in the mid tier Hololive dominates but Niji always trades punches at the top and can catapult anyone in the top 10 to the top on non birthdays/anniversaries/3Ds. Just look at Fuwa the other day.
>>30093205Kek, Nijisanji clip game has improved and you will see that YT also favors more Niji stuff these days. Just use incognito and see anon.
>>30093205>lost the chanceThey've tried, it didn't worked
Koyori mogging Koshien?
>>30093205>lost the chance to become a global brand.they rule all of asia right now and they're gaining mindshare in america (see enna and millie performing at CRX)
>>30093205Kind of shows in how grateful the EN girls are for their clippers + featuring them on their channels
>>30093205The fuck are you talking about? Nijisanji mindshare these days has improved so much, they’re rivaling Hololive globally.
>>30092725Tempiss didn't even try?? Guess this is why Ren is more popular than all of them combined kek no balls whatsoever
>>30093255Gura buff
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1555501367493632001https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1555501367493632001https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1555501367493632001
>>30093277Goomba on stream?
What is up with “mindshare” stuff throwing around lately?
>>30093256>they rule all of asia right nowHololive is more popular in every single asian country. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam.
>>30093298Id server got buffed because of gura
>>30093143IRyS should just ask. All the JP collabs she's been in have clearly not been on her initiative. There lately was the one with the daisempai, left4dead with the hags and fps with EN and twappi. She has to go out on ask herself. Hell, I still don't understand why there hasn't been a 1x1 collab with Mel even though they've known each other for a decade and Mel collabs with everyone even if she doesn't know the language or is outside the company.
>>30093302Autist got a new word and wanted to play with it more.
>>30093236>>30093256>>30093272lol>>30093244They did try but too late, of course its with 20/20 vision we can say they missed the boom Holo rode but if they had spent more time fostering it earlier they could be neck and neck with holo now as well.
>>30093286twapi
>>30093286Umisea like shorts?
>>30093205I remember niji clipping being big early 2020. I'm not sure what the fuck happened. Salome hasn't even made an impact in the west thanks to the lack of virality, it's fucking ridiculous.
>>30093298nah, i think it's a dude that's mad about the id server or something, she's just touring the id server since when they did the relay it was sort of chaotic and fast
>>30093303Not HoloEN.
>>30092507IRyS
>>30093298Just someone permanently mad about people saying Kaela got the Gura buff. Now he just spams it everywhere to make chumkeks look bad. Same moron that goes>when accounting for the cull this is a 900000 million CCV streamHe thinks we can't tell.
>>30093361I see. ID server is on whole other level despite only having 9 members. Speaking volume about holoEN tbqh.
>>30093377IRyS gets free songs. IRyS herself is just lazy and doesn't want to overstep the VSinger process
>>30093236Ogey anon, I went on YouTube and searched for 'vtuber clips' in incognito, here's the first few pages:>Hololive: 15, one of which is Marine's MV for some reason>VShojo: 5>Nijisanji: 3, one of which is their official channel>Phase Connect: 2>Indies: 24>Dramafags talking about /vt/: 3 (fucking kill me)
>>30086639I mean, if you never step on the Accelerator the car won't go anywhere.But once you reach the destination, you kinda need to hit the brakes.Or you'll overshoot and be much farther from where you want to be.
>>30093371Yes HoloEN actually. They only get beat in main chinkland. Not even Taiwan dominance. Though to be fair, its not like they're competing for the same audience anyway.
>>30093410Literally just sing any fripside song cover. Easy views.
>>30092702Gold? Gold.
Hololive only has NA, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. Nijisanji ha the rest of the world.
>>30093397Yeah, it really says they don't play minecraft efficiently. So many volumes, so many tomes. Such a castigation.
>>30093346Of course its hard to replicate Holo's path here, it was a few viral clips, into Coco content + controversy which was way bigger news than most people give credit into myth debut sustaining global brand status. To keep up Niji would have needed their own bilingual type, clipper sphere, and nice subbed packages of their best talent but they are too decentralized.
>>30093338kek nijisanji is fucking irrelevant
>>30092917>People who watched the videos you watched also watched this video that you didn't watchit's not that complicated.
>>30093453Don't forget Niji actually owns NA(CN).
>>30093453>Korea and Japan.why do hololiars always lie? ren is like a mainstream celebrity in korea and nijisanji has ruled japan from day 1.
>>30088602>like how "google it" became the catch all phraseit's gonna be hilarious if the phrase outlasts google itself, like 30 years from now people will still say "google it" but it'll be some other search engine site, and some guy who hasn't even been born yet will explain why people call searching as "google" with "there used to be this massive site called google".
>>30093453China isn't the rest of the world, zhang. Did you not remember anything from geography or
Just think, Cover's 2022 profits outdid Nijisanji's 2021 profits. Imagine how much more Cover made in 2021 than Anykara, especially with HoloFes 3 and Bloom and Anykara having to cancel their concert. Those concerts are HUGE moneymakers.
>>30093036>queenyou meant this?
Mappa 115k
>>30093338>they had spent more time fostering it earlier they could be neck and neck with holo now as wellIt was an event boom for HoloEN due to HoloJP, not Nijis. They had 3 overseas branches and it did NOTHING. It wouldn't do anything if they fostered it.
>140K GETMAPPABROS
>>30093532Sorry for the confusion. I understand the confusion though because the word "whore" also consist of 5 letters.
>>30093465to really get that much coveted 'mindshare' they can try mentioning taiwan for starters.
Which retard said vtubing was bigger than anime yesterday?
>>30092917>Susan would rather spend money eavesdropping anons on a Bhutan casket weaving forum than fixing her own god damn platformSomehow I'm not surprised ...
AAAA THE ANIMATION
>>30093587Imagine Makima as a VTuber. Holy shit
>>30093531We don't actually have public profit numbers for Cover since 2020 as far as I knowYou're right that events are enormous though, that's why A-chan was moved to manage a new team focused solely on live events and conventions
>>30093302No idea but it helps filtering retarded convos
>annoying voice for an annoying characterMakes sense. Fuck Pow.a
>>30093572I get the cold chicken incident but i dont think it's enough to call her a whore. C'mon anon.
>>30093065Might you tell us what do you consider "Good"?
>>30093618I mean 2020 profits vs anykaras 2021
>>30093587That's not what was said, what was said was that vtubing make inroads with anime watchers in 2020 because the seasons were mediocre on account of shit getting delayed due to the 'vid.
WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE NO NAME VAs?
FUCK YOU MAPPA! YOUVE SHOWN THE PV YOUVE PEAKED TOO SOON! EVERYONE IS GONNA LEAVE NOW!
>>30093674As long as no long ass overnight zatusdan and cringy shorts I would consider that chuuba good.
How long re we gonna be on page 10
>sub 200kMappabros...
They can still ZTrust the plan
>>30093698>>30093719Fuck this could be an easy 200k stream
>>30093302It lets people claim the chuuba/group they like is more popular by throwing around vague assertions like "everyone at my crochet club is talking about them!" without needing to quantify it with actual numbersIt's harder for the resident autists to prove them wrong too since collecting social media sentiment data is extremely difficult if you're not an analyst at a large company (google trends alone does not count, it's a meme)
>>30093697They are cheaper to hire. With VA schools now no-names are as good as big names in terms of voice acting.
>>30093531I wonder how much Mori makes on her music and her concert. I wonder if she actually earns more than Gura.
>>30093776She got a sololive, the sales of merch and tickets would've put her above Gura by default.
>>30093697hey man
>>30093719>>30093740Tsukihime > ChainsawmanAt the moment of her reveal Arcueid brought 254k people as well as international hype, the highest FGO stream have ever been
>>30093728This. Believe in NA(CN)bros...
Come and watch my cute concubine for now anontachi!https://youtu.be/M0U4rD5jfNM
>>30093858didn't she lose money on that sololive because she sold too many tickets?
>>30093118Fun fact, commissioning all the art for this cost Towa as much or more than soundproofing her streaming room.
>>30093896I don't remember posting this, 5k now btw
>>30093858I really wouldn't be so sure about that. Even with full profit from it (which she won't get, its an UMG concert) we can't know for sure. You'd have to assume Gura and Mori are neck in neck usually and she has the advatange of extra stuff to put her ahead, I find that a faulty assumption.
>>30092981Why didn't Luca stream his pov?Are they numberfags?
Kanauru hate?https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1555511471290798087?s=20&t=_ySKJdZXaFIIlljDBK1ZxA