/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Aki in the new thread!

Sorry, I didn't realize someone would post so fast.

Timestamp means this one?
>>29940296

>>29946514
Thread quality means the other one

Nasfaqg needs new blood to survive. Dropping the wall of text in the OP and just putting hag tits to lure people in is the way to go. Less people will dismiss the game as numbers autism even though it is and get reeled in by lewd OP images, and once they're in the thread it's (You)r job to hook them with an interesting post!

>>29947467
Good point

>>29947599
Does this count as an interesting post?
Now that I have the attention of newcomers, you can be on Aki's oshiboard just by buying 130 of her shares!

>>29947599
/#/ has almost nothing in their OP and people still don't like them.

>>29947963
That's because nobody likes cancerous numberfags

why double op

>>29949104
for ur two moms

>>29924236
I am not calling you out on trying to hide the fact that funds are an incredible money sink, I just brought up the returns report because it was the fastest way to give everyone an easy example to look at

Furthermore, the market deflating should not influence your decision at all, if the market deflates your best move is to sell coins because funds don't, if the market inflates your best play is to buy funds because they also go up, the thing is, as long as the person who is managing the fund has even the smallest idea of how to play the game, coins that go up will get sold and coins that go down will be bought, it's a simple as that, prices are not limited by adjustment, you could say that funds are constantly beating the market, and thus, constantly rising in price regardless of what happens, selling most of your coins will always be the perfect play here

I agree with you, the game and its mechanics had been stagnant for 9 month or more (didn't check), new changes and alternatives are a great thing, however, I would like for all alternatives to have an appeal or be viable in comparison to each other, maybe the best player would be one that mixes all of these alternatives into his play style, who knows? What I do know, is that given how funds currently are in the game, they are indeed the best option, they outperform any chuuba, if you really care about climbing and making money you are actively hurting yourself for not using them, and when it's so easy to profit from them, it makes me really mad, you say that you can see people who didn't adapt to funds in the report, but that doesn't matter to me, just because the majority or some of them are not using it doesn't make the problem I have with them go away

>>29929848
That makes more sense, forgot that the males thing happened, and that's even worse too, I hadn't really thought about it, but new funds don't get made that often, do they? This is once again turning into a time played will beat any skill thing, as you say, rich players that have been around since the start of funds could really grow their shares and will constantly make money from them as time goes on, for rising players or future ones they will have to invest in funds that have already grown a lot, heavily limiting their options and profits, it would most likely be quite hard to catch up, making new funds is not an option as, again, like you pointed out, rich players will also buy into these new funds anyway

>>29918058
As I said before, I do not know, the one thing I'm sure of is that fund managers/CEO need a huge buff to at least give back some the retarded amounts of money they print, that should give people an incentive to manage funds and not feel like they are getting robbed, as for how to balance people who invest to them, it really escapes me, I don't really have tons of data like some players of this game, just what I can get from F.U.C.K. and some other outdated things I keep around, I also don't really know how stock market works, my best idea would be to look into real funds and how do they work, where they adapted like an exact match to nasfaq? Does that cause problems? And try to take it from there, but I'm no gamedev, I simply point out exploits and things that make me mad

>>29951448
I have been managing JO 同胞, Retards inc., and 桜靴下投資信託 out of sheer boredom.

>>29951771
>some of the best funds are all managed by one person
Holy shit, I kneel

>>29952157
Not to discredit tampa's work, but shouldn't it just be copy and paste the same trades from fund to fund? If you can manage one fund you can probably do more

>>29952238
Some funds have different logic they prefer to use. HoloFinancialZ operates different to how I run F.U.C.K., for example.

>>29952157
Rise, it's not much, and if they were the best I'd be doing a bit better with them.
>>29952238
Nah, you're right for the most part. Sometimes I do a little "extra" like buying more Okayu for mogu, more Aqua for smiles, or more Miko for hoguchi+smiles. Hoguchi's had some really bad MPP on early trades so it kept me from selling certain things until they spiked really high, e.g. some really expensive Fubuki that I only got rid of once she hit $30k. Someone else finally set its auto-trader sometime today after I initially did, maybe hoguchi's back again.

>>29952238
Not entirely true, depending on the amount of liquid at their disposal there might be better or worse trades you could make for each fund, Also if they micromanage throughout the day it could get tiring doing that for multiple funds.
I manage a private and public fund currently and I find it to be quite a bit of work.

Anyways, w/r/t funds in general, one easy way to nerf them quickly would be the obvious tax hike. But they're already "gimped" in the sense that you need +~21% to break even on 10% buy + 10% sell. Anything else, like flat 20% buy, 0% sell, would just be shuffling the deck chairs around on the Titanic, but that example could technically reduce both how overbought coins get and how often it happens - and just move it over to how often they get oversold. Not endorsing any of that, just spitballing.

>>29951448
>I also don't really know how stock market works, my best idea would be to look into real funds and how do they work, where they adapted like an exact match to nasfaq? Does that cause problems? And try to take it from there, but I'm no gamedev, I simply point out exploits and things that make me mad
Real mutual funds presumably pay less in brokerage fees than Joe Sixpack would trying to buy stocks, economy of scale, so that's somewhat accurate. I don't think it's quite as massive a difference as 10% vs. 225% theoretical 50x by a player though. I also don't think it's worth trying to pigeonhole yourself into how "the real thing" works when it comes to nasfaq, if anything because the shares are infinite and can disappear into the void.
Real stocks and by extension, mutual funds, as long as they're traded through individual shares can also undergo stock splits and reverse stock splits.
A stock split is exactly what it sounds like, one share becomes two (or more) and is now worth half (or less) what it used to be - grug pot worth same as before, but have more rocks in it now.
A reverse stock split is the opposite, two shares become one at double the price - grug pot worth same as before but have less rocks in it.

>>29952957
It does get tiresome. Raymond James gets adjusted a lot more often than the others because it has more liquid though, and I don't always trade the same in it vs. the smaller ones. If someone else keeps trading in 桜靴下投資信託 then I'll probably leave that one alone.

>>29953190
I think that the key with funds is to:
1. Provide more incentive for CEOs to run them at the cost of investors, since they are already amazingly good to hold,
2. Somehow make them be able to reap the benefits of economy of scale?

>>29953190
>I also don't think it's worth trying to pigeonhole yourself into how "the real thing" works when it comes to nasfaq, if anything because the shares are infinite and can disappear into the void.
I just mentioned in case it is a 1:1 copy from real life to nasfaq, and maybe that is what causes these problems, I don't think it's a good idea to be a market simulator, the game should borrow stuff from it and adapt it in some way, though that's just my opinion, maybe folks in here like it to be more realistic

The one change I can think of that would maybe fix it, or at least change the approach, is dividends, as of right now funds get everything from coins and stay better than them, if you alter dividends in some way that could change, you would have to start to evaluate which ones are better, say now funds get their dividends reduced by 50%

Which one is better in the long term? Share inflation and smaller payout or coins dividends return? If you go for shares only your liquid returns will begin to stagnate at each payout, your networth would be growing, but you couldn't do anything with it unless you sold, if you sell and plan to reinvest then you would be buying back shares at the current price which makes them worse for inflation, if you go for coins only you are back to old play style with taking a ton of bad deals, maybe you can find a balance between the two in some point, maybe 40% of income for coins and 60% for funds

I just want something to not make them brain-dead easy mode, at least with that there would be some form of decision making and thinking ahead

>>29955085
Maybe make the CEO/board siphon a share of dividends?

There is something that has been bothering me for a while now.
How would (you) manage the fact half the playerbase are sheetautismos and the other just buy oshi mindlessly? Making the game more "accessible" would bore to death the autists. While making more complex, engaging mechanics would alienate the casual player, and make the learning curve steeper for newfags. How do you balance this so that it is both engaging and fair to everyone equally? I am not asking for specific solutions here, just some general thoughts and ideas.
Feel free to suggest anything, even if it sounds retarded!

>>29958737
Make funds autism central and complicated. Simplify/make more accessible the general market.

>>29958737
>and the other just buy oshi mindlessly
how many of those are actually people that used to play normally but got burnt out or "retired" to only do that, regardless, I don't see how new mechanics would alienate a casual player, normal trading will always be there

>>29958737
Don't bother, the game is dead

>>29959240
>how many of those are actually people that used to play normally but got burnt out or "retired" to only do that
I'm willing to bet it's 90% of them at least.

>>29959369
then maybe there is a chance that they would go back to playing if new stuff drops (emphasis on new, funds are just a re-skin of normal trading)

>>29959503
There's no chance they'll come back. They might just update their sheets and then leave again.
t.semiretired sheetfag

>>29959503
Being completely honest with you, there's a higher chance of me deleting my account than playing again

>>29959503
I don't want stuff, I want to go back.

>>29959167
Hard to simplify the general market any more, except maybe making tax less retarded.
Funds being autism central sounds good. It is what I actually expected them to be, really. The fact they have simpler taxation than normal trading is---
>>29959240
Are you one of those "retired" players? What would make (you) come back to the game? That's the question we should be asking ourselves.
>>29959632
What would you like to see in the game? Why are you still playing? Cause at this point you may as well delete your account and be done with it.
>>29959799
If there is nothing that would make you go back then just leave, you know? No point in threatening to delete your account when others are trying to have a discussion. It is nothing but noise at this point.
>>29960056
Back where?

>>29960514
>>>29959632(You)
>What would you like to see in the game?
An active community like we had a year ago. I'm only still here because of sunk cost fallacy, but I'm trying to ween off

>>29960514
It's not a threat, sorry if it looked that way, I stay here because I like the community, there's cool people here, maybe it's sunk cost fallacy as the anon above said, I'm just pointing out that trying to appeal to me, a "retired" player wouldn't really work, can't say if all of us are like this

>>29960514
I don't know what would make me come back to the game, I guess that's the reason I "retired" too? Nothing that I want to do or look forward to?

>>29958737
>Making the game more "accessible" would bore to death the autists.
Accessibility is not mutually exclusive with Intricate/Autistic. You lure in the people with accessibilty then uppercut them with the mastery via autism. Anybody can button mash X through Kingdom Hearts, but the real autists will learn specific timings, Revenge Value abuse, optimized combo strings, and the cheese strats to fall back on.

I can tell all of you retards what you want, and you will never get.
You want to experience the birth of the game again, all of the hype, novelty, and excitement that comes with something new. The drive to get ahead of others when you are all standing at the same starting line, discovering what works and what doesn't work. Basically anything associated with a fresh game launch is all a majority of (You) desire.
Now that I have saved you run along and look up some games coming out this or next year to get your hype meter built up so you can peak before crashing and burning in that game to. Or just keep performing mental gymnastics I guess.

And that's why we need the Great Reset

>>29960091
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>>29962451
What did he mean by this

>>29962451
There's an actual game discussion going on here for once... I'd heavily recommend you join it, best if anonymously. And take confessions and the like to private.

What about what made you start playing nasfaq, and after trying it out, what made you stay? Maybe we can get something out of that

>>29960091
Good girl.
ehe.

>>29962602
-The thread on day one
-The thread during it's golden age

>>29962693
define the golden age

Hello

>>29962602
saw a cool pic in the OP
buying and selling coins was fun
thread was very alive, lots of funposting and oc going around

>>29962727
when I was posting a lot

>>29962727
From day one until a couple of months after the aggie was made

>>29962602
Found the thread in the OP
Got excited when a player bought my yellow card for a few million dollars and tripled my net worth. Afterwards I decided to try and get into top 100 (I'm almost there, but I haven't made much progress in a few months, especially since I started multicoining oshi)

I think that these responses highlight how important OP pictures and OC is for the thread.

>>29963135
By the way, I didn't realize there actually was a game when I first saw the thread, I thought it was just anons doing play pretend based on the numbers of the holos (the number thread didn't exist yet)

>>29963135
you won't rebuild the community by doing some oc, there was so much oc because there was a community

>>29963135
That won't get you anywhere, thread needs to be alive, most of the time OC happens around funny players events, if the thread doesn't get used that won't happen, today is literally the exception in probably weeks if not months were the thread hasn't been on life support living from bump to bump (thanks fund anon)

>>29962786
>saw a cool pic in the OP
more evidence we just need a textless OP with huge tits and ass as the image

>>29960514
>Back where?
Back to the early days of the game where things mattered more. I feel my efforts don't matter as much and will do very little against my competition. Every day, my decisions matter less and bear less fruit. Playing well now feels useless, and I have zero drive to play. No gimmick will fix the core emptiness of the late game.

>>29963260
To continue, I joined the game around a year after it started. When I saw the leaderboard, I immediately thought I wouldn't make it up there and decided to not even bother. It was the leaderboard that pulled me in; since I could place on a few with less than 100 coins

>>29963747
Sorry for spamming the thread but it's 2AM and I'm sleepy
If the goal is to bring in new players, why not extend the oshiboard to 10 players for each holo?

>>29963915
Won't change anything. Do you really get any satisfaction in being first in a dead game?

>>29964003
It's not about being first though, it's about having a goal to move forward to. A new player isn't going to think "I want to get 10K shares of my oshi!", he barely has enough to buy 5 to 15 of her when he starts. Getting your name on an oshiboard though? Now that's something you can actually aim to
And yes, I take a lot of pride in being first on my dead oshiboard

>>29962602
Saw a cool OP and wandered in. Was mourning the death of /pxl/ as my timewaster.
Wanting to take a crown, and all of (You)

>>29953215

>>29962140
This is correct
>>29962602
I found the game in the catalogue and it looked interesting. My first goal was to make a bot since it looked like it'd be good practice. The first step was figuring out what the most optimal strategy was as a bot does nothing more than what you tell it to. So in order to make a good trader bot you first need to trade well yourself. Besides that, as a secondary goal I wanted to reach the top 20. Getting into an oshiboard already looked impossible back then.
I stayed cause the early game was quite engaging, and the thread was fun to read. Back then you could YOLO your entire wallet for some stream and either make riches or go broke. There was an incentive to play, and by that I mean, actually pay attention to the game. Not only did I have to press the buy/sell every 10 minutes but I was constantly making decisions regarding when to stop or start buying/selling, and how to shuffle my limited capital around to maximize profits. I had to check on streams to make sure I bought the right coins and I had to check on the other players' activity to watch out for trend reversals. Interacting with the community/thread was fun as well, there were lots of speculation around and the game felt like a wild west of sorts, waiting to be explored.
Now, if you excuse me, I'll add one question to yours: What made you stop?
Gradually, as coins started to accumulate, your agency as a player started to diminish. You no longer were able to make crazy gambles, nor you needed to. As long as you had 144 of every coin you never had to look for good streams, as you could sell any spike regardless. As people started maxing their trades per day, the intra-day movements in price started to matter less as the graph looked more and more like a straight line, which meant in turn that you could also buy/sell a coin the entire day without much thought. Players started to feel like the game was solved (even though it was not, as the RR proved months later) and stopped speculating as much in the thread. This has only gotten worse.
Eventually, I achieved both of my goals, plus a couple more. Of course, I don't play anymore.
>>29960514
>What would make (you) come back to the game?
Nothing, maybe. There is something that's rarely mentioned whenever one of these discussions is happening and that is... there was a fucking pandemic, remember? I would spend hours clicking buttons and watching streams cause I had the time and could afford doing so. I don't have such luxury anymore. Life must resume.

In any case, I'm happy to see something on-topic in the thread for once. I haven't checked the place in a week so this was a nice surprise.

>>29962140
>discovering what works and what doesn't work
Literally could not care less about that aspect of it, I just want the mechanics and feeling of actually competing with people back. At least, competition that was engaging and showed results (and I don't mean over months). I miss buying ahead of time for an upcoming stream and making BIG FAT GAINS off of it, I miss fucking up catastrophically and almost bricking my account overnight, and I miss spreading FUD that actually did something. It doesn't have to be a new experience or something that's "not figured out," it just has to be competitive in a way that a new player won't have to spend YEARS to reach the top 10 or maybe even 20. Right now, that's the kind of game we're playing. A boring, snail-paced game that is neither engaging nor rewarding. A game that is all but dead.

>>29962602
Stock autism was something fresh in my mind from the hijinks going on during that time, and figured it would be interesting to see how it would work for vtubers and my oshi. Couldn't play much early days due to the adjustment time but I enjoyed the thread and lurking, but enjoyed the little I could play and figured I could eventually climb the oshiboard considering the close race going there at the time. Time went on, became half decent at game got to top 50 and enjoyed the people around and the chaos, but began feeling like climbing got progressively harder/slower and less interesting, so slowly lost interest besides the oshiboard goal I set for myself. Eventually got it with the death of the guy at the top, and no longer had any reason to play. Managed to force myself to try playing the game after talking with a friend on the game, soon after, mutual funds came out, and I realized how much easier/simpler the game is with it, and put me off of playing the game seriously again. Here I am now, just chilling, waiting till that last milestone which'll come in a long time till I'm finally done with the game.
Still genuinely believe the game can be "saved", but the only way that comes to mind to me now is the r-word since options are a meme.

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.
Data collected at Cycle 66.


Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 51,392,622, a 0.68% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 734,180. There are 30 coins above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest volume, at 3,440,622 shares, or 6.69% of market volume.
>Pochimaru currently has the lowest volume, at 103,622 shares, or 0.2% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 47):
>Shion :: +16.7%
>Syrios :: +15.3%
>Altare :: +14.8%
>Botan & Matsuri :: +6.4%
>Kanaeru :: +6.2%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 23):
>Ollie :: -11.5%
>IRyS :: -7.9%
>Ina'nis :: -5.8%
>Nabi :: -5.7%
>Rurudo :: -5.1%

2 coins (Ayame, Rushia) had a net 0% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $241,084.05, which is an increase of 1.49% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $1,380,468,659,919.82, which is an increase of 3.68% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $26,861.22. A total of 18 coins are above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest value, at $141,068,942,622.00 in total market value, or 10.22% of market value.
>Syrios currently has the lowest value, at $1,192,346,838.34 in total market value, or 0.09% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 49):
>IRyS :: +23%
>Ina'nis :: +22.4%
>Calliope :: +16.8%
>Fubuki :: +13.8%
>Dezmond :: +13.4%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 21):
>Miko :: -20.2%
>Korone :: -15.7%
>Shion :: -15.4%
>Mio :: -11.5%
>Chloe :: -11.4%


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $780,495,119, which is a decrease of 19.94% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $3,323,974,881.64 today, a decrease of 29.40% from yesterday's salary.

Top 5 Superchat Increases (of 13):
>Luna :: +207%
>Matsuri :: +28.9%
>Towa :: +2.6%
>Gura :: +1.7%
>Iofi :: +1.5%


Here's the M.O.V.E. Report for today:
>5 coins (Rushia, Coco, Risu, Dezmond, Watame) adjusted green, but are still trending upwards.
>1 coin (Sana) adjusted red, but is still trending downwards.
>10 coins (Kiara, Mumei, Towa, Ayamy, Melfissa, AZKi, Okayu, Iofi, Haato, Civia) adjusted red, but are now above their pre-adjustment value.
>54 coins are on projected trend lines and have not intersected with their pre-adjustment values.

Top 5 Most Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Shion :: $485.66 Up
>IRyS :: $472.78 Down
>Luna :: $352.04 Up
>Botan :: $329.79 Up
>Ina'nis :: -$326.73 Down

Top 5 Least Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Nachoneko :: $0.46 Down
>Pochimaru :: $2.87 Up
>Civia :: $2.94 Up
>Ui :: $3.10 Down
>Rushia :: $4.18 Up

Overall Average movement was $32.86 per hour.
Average Upwards movement was $92.89 per hour.
Average Downwards movement was -$111.21 per hour.

Now for the Grug Review:
>Barely more berries than yesterday.
>Berries worth more rocks today.
>Broker losing money. Grug happy.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>>29968235
grug review made me sad

>>29962140
Cool. Any good stock game ya know?

>>29969918
The IRL one is way better than this if that's all you want. Bye.

>>29970798
>game
>irl
>better
????. ok bye i guess

>>29970798
The "IRL one" is somehow even slower tho

>>29962140
but we can get this, with seasons.
seasons will fix alot of "oh i cant beat 1st place without 4 years growth so why bother" "i used to play but the game is stale now"
And the mayonnaise clan can prove they can trade like the best of us without the anal liquid injections. Speaking off, if there is seasons , make it protected from the auction house.

holonations WILL save nasfaq, also permitting /sp/ in betting

>>29962602
/vtleague/, maths autism

>>29972210
I agree seasons can fix some problems with the game, It won't encapsulate the initial release, but it will bring a sliver of it back. I personally would like to see the first seasons as a carbon clone, but doing some seasons that spice things up or making trading different, even vastly different would be really big in my opinion. Even if it ends up being broken or exploitable it won't tarnish the integrity of the core game so a lot more can be done.
>no money transfers in seasons
This is extremely important

>>29972288
go back

>>29972875
seasons should have its own system if possible, its own money etc, with the goal of achieving the highest rank possible, high rank gives some sort of credit which we can buy some nasfaq aesthetics

Live

Die

>>29943937
hag sex

>>29968235
>Luna :: +207%
>Matsuri :: +28.9%
All me, btw

>get white screen for the first time
>decide to go to the other browser
>it auto-translates the site to my native language
>pic related

>>29993457
stop being russian

>>29962602
There was a cool OP that made me read the info page and the game intrigued me. I kept/keep playing because of personal goals and rivals. I was personally really lucky in that whenever something I try to achieve gets fulfilled, some new thing happens. Getting to top 100, competing with my (now dead) rivals up the board, getting on the oshiboard, keeping on the oshiboard, grabbing the crown, beating the thinkpad for the real crown. Topping the RR trading report and finding new rivals to beat. Now it's to make the best fund. I guess the trick is to find your own fun in the game.
>>29917709
>>29951448
I think the best solution is to tax buying fund shares (scaled by amount purchased) and give the tax to fund managers (x% of the total tax collected).1.5% from the fund pool was always a bad call since it hurts the fund's growth, provided basically nothing for managers and shifted the risk/cost from the buyer to the fund and managers. If tax is implemented, the free money part is hurt greatly while also incentivizing people to manage (and manage well since there would be competition and reason not to invest) funds. If the shares are taxed, that slows the profits made by buying large amounts of small funds that exponentially grow. It also stops big funds from being strictly better divs than coins since there would be reason to not blindly buy and dump liquid. Rich players would avoid fund buying to zero out the same way they avoid 10xing every coin to zero out.

>>29993457
Blyat

Pls no add more tax to the game, its just a sad layer of complexity to the game. It's just "i should do less" mechanic to the game. im not even sure why we added taxes to the game in the first place, inflation?

>>29996751
To punish stupid multicoining? I don't know, I wasn't around back then. I was going to suggest removing the tax on single coin purchases, but it seems like a mechanic that'd be abused by rich players by buying every single coin in the game at all times when they're not spiking

>>29998172
it's to battle inflation, which clearly didn't work

>>29993457

Cute art, and then you see the feet

>>30001160
why would you do this...

a slightly less misleading graph

>>30000313
Пиздeц, cpaть нa cocaчe нacфaкoм...

>>30002187
ohhhh I have to shit?

>>30001561
Draw it? No idea but I like it
Post it? Because I like holo feet, especially when sandals are also drawn

Traders Sans Frontières and SakurAZKI Savings are getting dissolved in 7 days

hello how do I dissolve my fund
I cannot find the button

>>29963747
Basically sums up the reason why I played this game. I wanted to beat my top oshicoiners, I did, I felt happy but at the same time it felt kind of empty because they were already all dead which is funny because my account is practically dead now, too, giving the future oshicoiners the same feeling that I got.

Miko WWE 2k22 in about an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMoQR3X2_jk
Gambling will exist.

ohhhh i need to shit

ooohhh I need to WAH

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 18)
>Polka :: $12,482.52
>Nabi :: $9,419.65
>Marine :: $6,819.10

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 52)
>Suisei :: -$10,819.77
>Watame :: -$8,488.21
>Subaru :: -$8,164.73

Overall Average Adjustment is -$828.22
Average Upward Adjustment is $2,973.39
Average Downward Adjustment is -$2,144.17

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and oooh I need to crab.

hello BBB post your trades please thanks

make a week break, come back, somehow adjust a few times green, next day, -50m.

Zeta I beg you, please stop adjusting red.

>>30006115
As always, thank you very much for your bratty morning review!

Ohayo I had a dream where honk added a radio to the game that would play hololive music unless someone queue'd something for 100k. Honk/Trial Deb/# ur mom dev please add.

>>30006840
Holy shit. Thats a very bad idea but also an incredibly good one. devs, please, add.

>>30006840
Seems fun actually. Don't request rap if it gets added

>>30006404
Sure.
This week I'm experimenting with a different buy/sell ratio. Typically I buy more than I sell (on varying ratios based on what I want to check), but this week I've been selling on the same criteria that I use to determine how many buys I make during the day.
This is 60 cycles.

>>30006909
I will be queuing my j-pop followed by Colt 45

>>30006840
i will be requesting the harshest of merzbow if this happens

>>30006877
Interesting idea, but it would need to be shielded from abuse. We have a couple of audio autists here that could easily turn the radio into a torture device.

Sora got improved rigging on all her outfits, nice for her

why

>>30007663
All me

>>30007167
I am the god of music, any music I play is objectively good and if you don't like it you were born with a defect in your ears and/or brain

>>30007663
Please let it draw the biggest bibi of all time

>>30007663
IT IS TIME, WE MUST CREATE BIBI

>>30007663
Thinking about it, I made nearly 500 millions from Rushia's graduation. Had I not jumped on that train, I'd probably still be around the top 150

>>30004983
You need to be public and have no coins

>The playerbase being alive combined with males' release is unironically killing NASFAQ's ability to function
You can't make this shit up.

>>30008542
please tell all those people to post in the thread

>>30008542
Nasfaq magged

>>30008542

>>30008542

Miko looks extra cute today

>>30008884
censored eyes erotic

Bet's up by the way.

>>30008542
Mag, whomst could you possibly be quoting?

>>30010100
He was quoting me

>>30010100
me, a voice in your head

>>30007167

>set alarm for reset
>wake up and set trades
>check back 2 hours later
>autotrader was off

>>30006840
this is an awful idea, please add it, I want to myspace the fuck out of other peoples experiences for money

Hello all, trial dev here, with a slightly better explained form of my ramblings in GC.
Been digging through things for a while and might have found the root cause of the issue. Browser local storage is a rough limit of 5MB, and getStats is around 7MB. The stats in that file consist of data points for the graphs. We have two contributions recently that looks to have caused this. Males and activity across the board seems to be way up causing the size of the file to grow and thus your browser clears this every so often I guess, meaning we have to call the api again to get the data back.
Basically every coin we add increases the data by a decent-ish portion, every day that passes increases the data slightly.

The too indepth bit on this, basically the graph updates every 15 unique trades or every 15minutes, whichever is first. On good deals this means we are updating that coin nearly every minute as everyone buys it. On bad deals/coins that didn't change much it seems like it averages to maybe once every 5minutes. So worst case scenario in a day there is up to 1440 data points (of unique numbers), best case its 288. Lets just say an average of this is 500, per coin. For some reason we also mimic this exact behaviour for 'shares in circulation', so its about 1k data per coin, each day. For the rest of the graphs we have just daily totals, so lets say this is about 400 days of data? With 8 graph options and 66 coins this is 211k data points.
For daily data points the total is 1k * 66 coins = 66k data points (remember this is rough work).
How to fix this? A few different ways I guess but easy ones is limit the graph updates to 5-15 minutes for price, every 30min-1hr for circulation, 66k -> 288*48*66=22k. If we keep just the past 6 months of daily data totals and then average the rest to weekly this saves about 1/2 of the 211k.

In the meantime i'm going to try look into preventing the whitescreens until its fixed by maybe giving it 0's if it doesn't have the data? Not fully sure on the best approach, but graphs would probably look broken if you reach the limit, but you could still trade which I assume is most peoples priority.

TLDR males+activity broke nasfaq.. I did ask you guys to vote no...
-trial dev

>>30012331
I told you all.

>>30010100
>He can't quote posts that haven't happened yet.

apex

Dota 2

Mahjong

Mario Kart Wii

Mario Kart Double Dash on the GameCube

>>30012331
Why not hard limit the graphs to update every 10~15 minutes? Nobody is staring at the graph waiting for it to shift every minute or so. Unless the graphs being live is something that affects another mechanic, there's no real reason for them to update that frequently.

Worms Armageddon

Payday

doom 2

PLEASE SOMEONE BREED MEEEEEEEEE

An
Tan

Nowa describing Kaiji is so accurate

>>30020341
>Roboco is fucking dead
This is so sad, bros...

>>30020556
No...

>>30020344
please stop posting this kind of stuff and take a shower

>>29962602
A friend sent a screenshot of the game. I was like "is that real?" then he sent me the name and link

Having to do poi reps, trying to know how the numbers works, looking at live stats during live.
The early threads were also fun as hell. The reactions during adjustments, spamming BUY to get your trades get through or even happen twice, us all shouting at everything happening be it big or small, haatonsheet, the first aggay, the offtopic posts that somehow still relates to the game, the community just fooling around with everyone, to get in top 50, to get top oshicoin leaderboard, and I really enjoyed the armchair dev arc but also got burned out there because of how it felt like everyone was just shouting to the void.

apology for poor english

when were you when purgatory purchasing dies?

i was sat at home breeding hags when honk ring

‘apples is kill’

‘no’

Whats the reason for killing long time public funds? Literally killing the tiny amount of desire to play this game.

>>30026250
if you mean purgatory that was a shitpost fund

>>30012331
Then just remove the males. Give everyone their money back.

>>30029632
Then the same problem will come back comes next holo gen, it's not a solution

>>30029632
t.priestess

>>30029708
Then trial dev shouldn't really complain about adding the males broke the game, and even go as far as to tell us we should have voted no.

>>30030103
he says that just because he didn't want the males in

>>30001830
BUY HAACHAMA
GROW HAACHAMA
WORSHIP HAACHAMA
SEX WITH HAACHAMA

>>30030385
Is Haachama Architecture Fund really that good?

>>30030540
in the big networth funds category yes very much so, but unless the reason youre buying funds is to dump 1 bil+ a week on funds there are much better options
JO and nu-purgatory and now nephlo are very small cost shares that grow exponentially
>>30020344
you nearly have me with the sweatposting chloeposter, do you have more

>>30030917
>there are much better options
Yeah, I knew that~

Who heck is choleposter

Why did purgatory die

>>30031935
if youre not chloeposter then anytime bb

>>30033022
Anytime?

>>30031935
me for some reason
>>30030917
I saved a lot from that one thread lmao, here's a chubbier one since i think that is your type

Chloeposter stopped hornyposting in the thread a while ago, don't sully his name falsely

>>30033757
yeah sully his boipussy instead

>>30033757
>priestess was chloeposter
it is all starting to make sense now i pray for his swift recovery

Priestess is a bad guy!

>>30033757
And can you tell the jury how you acquired this information?

>>30035069
I'm gonna say no, no I cannot.

poster above me is gonna kill me when he finds out i actually did post that though

>>30035319
He actually does, he told me personally
>>30035613
hello there :)

>>30035698
ew, kimoi even

being completely out of the loop and not knowing what seemingly everyone knows anymore sucks...
Captcha: KM WAH

>>30035900
You can't say this to me, that's rude

>>30036453
its an alienating feeling but at the same time helps me wean off coming here and checking nasfaq

>>30036512
g-gomenashai

>>30030103
Yeah this would have happened eventually anyway. The spoilered bit was a reference to the LARP post I made near the start of the male event, it was not meant to be taken seriously.
I honestly don't mind whether they are in or not, just whatever the majority wants.
I did even ask the devs, when I initially joined, about the plans for them because I saw the recurring question in the thread, hence why you guys got an answer back then.

-trial dev

>>30037026
what happened? I thought you didn't want to talk to me anymore? Changed your mind?

>>30037843
i responded emotionally to the image, also why were you trying to mindbreak me anyways, I don't understand your goal

>>30038028
I was just playing around, no need to think too much about it and no need to ask what are my goals becuase I don't have any

>>30037483
baka. You should mind so that we can larp that we have a dev drama

>>30038500
.-. i had really bad day cuz of that you stupid

ooooohhhhhhhHHHHHHHH I'm DRUNK

Can you guys talk about your relationship stuff in private? I get you don't want to show your usernames, so consider the aggie.

>>30039130
I have changed my mind, i will protect haachama poster.
Now get into this unmarked van with no plates and beds on the floor. There will be candy.

>>30039333
ishallah the aggie will burn and heathens will disperse like rats

>>30039130
You act like you didn't call me a monster nigger
>>30039333
We wouldn't have much to talk about

>>30039333
I never understand why nashags especially like showing off their relationships in public now days. It's weird, at least to a socially awkward person like me, that you constantly need to remind that you're in a relationship. I just come here to shitpost about vtubers and coins not hear about how you're gargling your e-husbando's cum.

>>30039533
Im awful at holding onto anger, unless you do something like kill someone i love, then its over for you. Also don't pretend like you weren't acting like one. Differentiating if you are a psycho or larping as a psycho still kind of impossible.
>>30039404
my brain is very scared of this >.>
>>30039333
>relationship
lol what, i talked to them only once

>>30040404
I agree completely, if two people are going to talk about things like this they shouldn't be doing it in a damn thread, they should be talking in private. Nobody wants to see this. And quite a few people don't want to see others flirting either. I get that sometimes it just happens, but I feel bad for those who are lonely or disenfranchised. I try to avoid it as much as possible.
>>30040493
>once
You both talk like you're exes.
Consider: https://aggie.io/cgcows3hns

>>30040493
>Differentiating if you are a psycho or larping as a psycho still kind of impossible.
What a load of bullshit, I'm just bored.
>>30040945
Alright, I'll stop now.

>>30040945
To busy saving the thread

>>30041206
Tell me more about saving nasfaq bussy

>>30042018
we kidnap honk, trial dev, and # dev and lock them in a basement until they have coded seasons into the game.

>>30040404
>litter
Thanks for the laugh anon, I appreciate it

>>30042346
>seasons
I wish I could slap you through my screen

>>30039287
based, i wish i was too

>>30042910
seasons is unironically the simplest way to bring back interest to the game. No amount of game balance is going to return real genuine interest, I would like to see things like mutual funds fixed, but as I mentioned earlier here >>29962140 what people really want and what they say they want are often 2 different things. I know what the people want and I am not afraid to say it. Seasons are the closest there can be to a fresh restart without a fresh restart, which is why I do agree with others who suggested that seasons are the best possible answer to this.
Its why people keep going back to games like path of exile flooding it at the start of a new season, then it dies after a couple weeks, yet they all come back again for the next season. Having periods of large activity then little activity is better than just little activity.

>>30038812
Just keep up the kayfabe like he said nothing.
I swear you fags wouldn't know a work if it paid you 40% dividends.

>>30043688
nta but ill argue that mutual funds already provide what seasons will give, the fresh player experience, with all the fast profit etc of the early game + modifiable starting money. I unironically think mutual fund, with the way it is, is honk answer to people asking for the restart/early game experience. will season revitalise the game? I dont think so especially if its going to be a mutual fund 2.0 but limited time only. What we need is something exciting, like honk deliberately fucking up the market or something, honk molest the system please!!!!!

>>30043688
I wonder if that's really true

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.
Data collected at Cycle 60.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 51,666,506, a 0.53% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 738,093. There are 30 coins above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest volume, at 3,439,860 shares, or 6.66% of market volume.
>Pochimaru currently has the lowest volume, at 103,829 shares, or 0.2% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 45):
>Dezmond :: +9%
>Zeta :: +8.1%
>Iofi :: +7.7%
>Syrios :: +7.2%
>Watame :: +5.9%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 25):
>Ollie :: -6.3%
>Ina'nis :: -4.6%
>IRyS :: -4.4%
>Nabi & Iroha :: -4.2%
>Kronii :: -3.6%

3 coins (Rushia, Civia, Calliope) had a net 0% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $240,249.75, which is a decrease of 0.35% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $1,372,384,034,012.97, which is a decrease of 0.59% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $26,562.35. A total of 18 coins are above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest value, at $127,417,470,994.20 in total market value, or 9.28% of market value.
>Syrios currently has the lowest value, at $1,270,011,147.78 in total market value, or 0.09% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 35):
>Polka :: +42.0%
>Kovalskia :: +28%
>Melfissa :: +20%
>Nabi :: +18.9%
>Amelia :: +13.2%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 35):
>Lamy :: -23.9%
>IRyS :: -22.3%
>Dezmond & Watame :: -14.9%
>Roboco :: -14.8%
>Mel :: -14.7%

3 coins (Rushia, Civia, Flare) had a net 0% change in value today.


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $1,232,333,335, which is an increase of 57.89% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $2,562,184,145.96 today, a decrease of 22.9% from yesterday's salary.

Top 5 Superchat Increases (of 9):
>Calliope :: +12.7%
>Kovalskia :: +9.4%
>Lamy :: +1.8%
>Marine :: +0.8%
>Sora :: +0.7%


Here's the M.O.V.E. Report for today:
>2 coins (Korone, Noel) adjusted green, but are still trending upwards.
>3 coins (Sana, Civia, Rushia) adjusted red, but are still trending downwards.
>5 coins (Ayame, Laplus, Towa, Miko, Pochimaru) adjusted red, but are now above their pre-adjustment value.
>1 coin (Rurudo) adjusted green, but is now below their pre-adjustment value.
>59 coins are on projected trend lines and have not intersected with their pre-adjustment values.

Top 5 Most Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Subaru :: $517.88 Up
>Suisei :: $402.00 Up
>Watame :: $400.49 Up
>Polka :: $344.27 Down
>Kanaeru :: $298.45 Up

Top 5 Least Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Rushia :: $1.96 Down
>Civia :: $2.72 Down
>Pochimaru :: $4.63 Up
>Coco :: $4.71 Up
>Nana :: $5.39 Up

Overall Average movement was $24.55 per hour.
Average Upwards movement was $70.92 per hour.
Average Downwards movement was -$92.57 per hour.

Here's the Grug Review:
>Slightly more berries today than yesterday.
>Berries worth slightly more rocks today than yesterday.
>Broker running into financial troubles and turning to cave drawings for more rocks. Broker terrible artist.
Thanks, Grug.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>>3004368
pseudo-seasons with current features
step 1: ask honk to delete all mutual fund every quarter of a year
step 2: all participants will start with the same money
step 3: some sheet autist will make a pseudo-leaderboard with agreed upon variables.
step 4: ask devs for a prize for the top 3 at quarter end.
viola, there's your scruffed seasons.

>>30045183
how out of touch do you have to be to genuinely believe that funds are seasons?
This first of all cannot attract new players, because it requires starting money. Actually suggesting that this gives a fresh player experience is absolute bait.
Second of all, they are deleting private funds, I wouldn't call that their answer if they are deleting them.
Third of all, how are seasons mutual funds? Seasons shouldn't have mutual funds, it should be strictly solo trading to promote competition.
Fourth of all, seasons are the answer to NOT fucking up the market, you can fuck up the season market all you want, but you can't fuck up the core market for a multitude of reasons. Seasons go around the faction of people who desire a stagnant leaderboard and feel that they have earned the right to sit at the top because of time invested, rather than their aptitude at trading. It means you can create a crazy new market and way of trading for every season.
Your saying it won't be exciting if its done in seasons, but that just doesn't make any sense. Your asking exactly for what seasons would entail, but without seasons. So why not just take seasons? We must come together, together if we all clamor for seasons we will get them, and they will be glorious. We must cast aside our differences. We need unity.

Ban all form of sheets or bot-playing before considering any new kind of features

>>30047304
cope

>>30047369
t. can't play normally

>>29962602
Saw it on catalog then remembered there was a talk about a game identical to this during /jp/ EN threads. Definitely the threads and the community at that time. Nowadays I don't feel the community anymore and see it more of just a circle of people who knows each others since you need to avatarfag or to be well known to get noticed unlike back then

>>30046892
>aren't attracting new player
yup. people asking for the fresh new player experience are obviously not new players, im looking at the vet side of things
>the rest
sorry i dont understand your point. what do you think seasons would look like then? Mutual funds are just normal trading with friends and less taxes so i envision that seasons are just normal trading but strictly solo and with the same starting money for rankers. Will people EVEN have reasons to play seasons? Will this be just normal trading but official returns report or whatever its called the thing we got every week? It is true that adding seasons will affect nothing, but is it going to be another feature nobody will use and just bloat the site? describe to me what seasons looks like to you

>>30055685
justified

>>30055685
lmao

>>30050980
The basics factors of a season that must be fulfilled for them to be successful: Starting line, rewards, different every time, not to long/breaks.
>Starting line
obvious, everyone has a fresh start and now has the motivation to compete with other players
>rewards
this is very important, some people will be happy with just a seasonal leaderboard, but having actual rewards would drive many more to play. What I would personally suggest is top players receive items, with the top 3 players receiving a rare version of their chosen chuuba's hat, on top of this create a hat that everyone in the top 20 will receive as well, perhaps voted on ahead of the season. all of these would be limited with no rerelease, and tradeable on the AH in the core game, for players that REALLY want some monetary gain from seasons. There could of course be other rewards added, but for now I think this idea will suffice in the case of a first season.
>different every time
absolutely crucial, if you just do the same exact thing every time, you will burn out and already know what to do at the start of every season. Here is where the fun part comes in, Make the system different every season. Make volatility fucking insane so everyone starts daytrading against each other, switch it up so only the views from the day of matter and previous days are ignored, hell make a season where you place ALL of the next days buys/sells and they all go through at 9:05am at once instead of trading normally through the day. You can actually do a lot of things, and it doesn't fuck with the core game so nobody can cry about it, they can just say the season isn't for them if they actually hate trading in it.
>not to long/breaks
Seasons need to be fun and exciting, but to prevent player burnout, I think they should be 1 month long, and there should be an equally long break, maybe even a 2 month break. 3 months of competition for example is a bit excessive, and generally the winners would be determined long before then, having a break gives players a breath of fresh air, and not being pressured to ALWAYS play the game is a good thing.

Options have supposedly been in the works for over a year
God knows how long it took them to get funds out
Then it was an entire month to put out a barely functional fund trader that was quite literally a copy from zhonkbot (and it didn't work properly)
I'm thinking we will see seasons in about a year if they start working on them now, that does not account for all the broken shit that will happen just like funds release of course, so proper seasons in 1.5 years, I wonder if nasfaq will be alive

>>30056328
Well said. What do you think about this scenario/concept. "Honk announces that: if an Holo ID streamed minecraft in the next 24 hours, he will crash her whole gen down 200%, if not he will up it 100% regardless of numbers." do you think this is good? ignore the balance issue etc

>>30058481
As a season, I think it could work if that is what you are suggesting. Having one that was heavily influenced by RNG (or in this case you could even consider it skill if someone were to tally up the average amount of times a Holo ID streams minecraft for the past few weeks for example) could be very fun.

>keep the current nasfaq market as is and allow people to continue doing what they're doing
>instead of a reset create a 2nd, completely fresh market
>obviously no coins or anything would be shared between the two markets
>allow people to play both to their heart's content
>everyone is happy

What's so hard about this you insufferable cunts

>>30060246
Nasfaq and nasfaq side server which gets reset every 6 months

>>30055685
heh

>>30042346
>>30046892
>we

>>30059377
Im trying to figure out if what you want is the competition that seasons will bring or the modifications devs can do that is also possible in normal trading. The only problem that i have with seasons is that it might struck the disease that we call balancing which happens in every other games that got seasons on it, why? because you introduced rewards. And players want a fair chance of getting that shiny rewards. Why do the effort on doing something temporary if you dont have the fair chance of winning?
Also consider this:
>everyone starts daytrading against each other
to
>Bots starts daytrading against each other
another reason to balance the fuck out of seasons which will inevitably murder fun out of it.

>>30060246
I agree, also make a fresh new market every time it gets stale for maximum fun experience

>>30060246
>>30062917
Make a new market every day

lui on the telly

>>30030540
Delta, Ninjinc and Haachama are all comparable. Of the three, Haachama tends to have a more stable price over time however.

Regardless as >>30030917 said smaller funds have better returns but traders are limited by how much liquid can be invested into them. However their growth isn't exponential; they instead have huge jumps because they are able to move their small net worth effectivity.

>>29943937
i need sauce this is peak

>>30060246
NASFAQ DARK when
I want to collect all the Lumicoins

>>30062516
I want the competition, and I want the modifications as well. It feels like I am beating a dead horse but I keep saying modifications belong in seasons, not the currently established mode that MANY will be pissed off if there is a change that could negatively effect THEIR position on the leaderboard. I am trying to be aware and not overlook this.
>balance
everyone will be at the same starting line, so just tell them they traded like shit if they lose, because its the truth, they can eat a dick or even 2 dicks at once if they complain about fairness, nothing in life is fair, and if your performing like shit because you were unlucky there will always be another season that might be better suited to you.
>bots will win everything
DYRBI? These bot funds out here trade like fucking shit. Just make players click a button to agree not to bot seasons and if they get caught DQ them as well.

dear honk or lapdev
pls add a liitle "dissolving" decal on dissolving funds on the main fund page
if a fund is functionally dead it should be represented as on the front page not only if you check that fund

>>30067089
dissolving funds can still trade, they are not dead

>>30063617
install 4chanx already
https://iqdb.org/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fvt%2F1659551309207402.png
https://saucenao.com/search.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fvt%2F1659551309207402.png
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99345934

>>30068337
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Hi-
Just added a few mechanics changes to the funds as I mentioned earlier this week. Those changes include:
Increase fund multicoin to 100, add incremental tax up to 50% above 50
Allow CEO to set fund share fee and the dividend distribution
Fix fund autotrader step quantity being invisible in light mode
Removed private fund ability to sell coins to prevent abuse

>>30069002
honk love

>>30069002
honk these two don't add up to 100%, explain

>>30069225
10% of 5%

>>30069276
I see, thanks

>>30069276
What's left over goes back into the fund and is the "new" part other than the control over the values, right?

>>30069407
95% goes to shareholders, 5% goes to the fund members. the CEO takes 10% of that, the rest goes to the rest of the fund members

>>30069002
>owning a private fund is abuse
kek

Pagi!

>>30069732
How do I make it work like before? Or is that not possible?
>inb4 all the funds go for 0/90/50

>>30069918
It would be x/100/x

>>30070069
Wouldn't it be 1.5/100/0 to be like before? Thank you, it makes more sense now.
Does the CEO also get an appropriate cut out of the 95% based on their # of shares?

>>30070213
>Does the CEO also get an appropriate cut out of the 95% based on their # of shares?
yes

>>30070270

>>30069002
Huh, so the private funds thing is "fixed". Guess matou won't be able to run the fund anymore. Proud of ya for doing all that even if you're getting nothing.

Wait, I'm retarded. What the hell is the "Fund Share Fee"? The % of a share's purchase that goes to the board?

>>30071682
yes, it was already 1.5%, but i guess not really noticeable for most people

>>30069732
aw, i was hoping for dividends recycled back into fund, and then we can get real crazy, but this works too
some people got locked out of ownership of their own funds and this gives them a reason to continue trading them if they nudge the numbers a little

>>30070949
? Matous fund is public. If you meant the buy towa fund, then matou doesnt even have permission to make trades there.

>>30072430
Anon, matou's been the one doing the buy towa fund trading. No one was trading in this fund beforehand.

>>30069732
will the %divs changes be affected in the listed payout on the mutual fund listings.
i.e a real dividend payout of 10k at 90%divs, will it show as 10k or 9k in the payout and api?

>>30073767
*reflected in the payout

>>30072554
Huh, can you make trades without being a board member?

>>30073897
yeah

>>30069002
honk males already won, can you take the fucking gay bar away

Can you adjust the share fee and div distribution more than once or is it a one and done sort of thing?

>>30043688
Seasons will do nothing to help. Anyone suggesting these sort of things clearly don't think ahead at all. A seasonal system will work sure, for the very first one and partially for the second one. But nasfaq isn't an fps or those type of games. Seasons isn't going to bring people back after the very first few. This isn't the sort of game that a "season" can make people regain an interest in the gameplay loop.

Equally important thing is the implication that older players care about ranking anymore. I feel like people who make this suggestion either are new or one of the very few older players who actually still care about ranking. Even if you add this shit in most of us aren't going to give a fuck. We have already gotten the thrills back in the day and won't get it from some new board. Might get some thrills on the first instance and then partially the second but after that there will be no thrills.

You are simplifying player retention way too much.

>>30078651
NTA, but then what do you want from nasfaq

>>30078794
I want it to die

>>30078434
Add this rule to uBlock Origin:
nasfaq.biz##.male-event-outer

>>30078651
but he got the right idea of adding something new, seasons is his only way of consideration for those guys who don't want their monotonous normal trading formula disrupted in the normal trading experience

>>30078794
Nothing, its just another game in my list of daily games to look at. Not the answer you are looking for? That's because most people probably went into the game not wanting anything out of it. Literally half the fun was the thread AND the broken nature of the game.The thread was active and fun to participate in and read. But the game was not stable in anyway and had constant up and downs that made it existing. When most older players think of the game being fresh their perspective of "fresh player" isn't going to be grinding their way up from nothing it is also going to be the excitement the thread generated. Do you really think you can actually recreate that experience and /quality/? Nasfaq is too stable to ever be able to remake what it once was and the devs are also clearly too busy to be able to make lots of active changes like they used to. In-fact, the existence of the gc means you can never ever recreate similar speed, quality, excitement etc. The thread was the lifeblood of the game and gc kills that so you can never give the game similar amount of life again.

You are trying to fix a retention problem but are looking at it like you can just throw toys at people and suddenly make them care. Those people you are throwing shit at are already satisfied with the game. Satisfied being an important keyword here. How can you engage and retain people who are already satisfied with what they've had and done? Some new funny leaderboards isn't going to make these people ever care and new players will eventually become the same. People will get bored of the gameplay loop and you can't make them interested in it again with some quirky toys that entertain you for like 5 minutes.

I still want fishing

>>30080345
>gc kills it
Wrong. Auto trader kills it. With the auto trader you only have to look at nasfaq once a day and the thread even less.

>>30080805
thread was still very alive once auto trader came out though?

>>30080345
eh, better to try and hope than wallow and die.

>>30080911
you should see the 15min cd era threads

>>30080805
The thread still had a lot of activity even when the autotrader was added, anon. It doesn't matter because the original purpose of the autotrader was it was meant to help with the timezone issue. Although it didn't help with that at all since honk gutted out all the things that would actually help players with timezone issues.

>>30080936
Wrong, throwing out shit that doesn't work or possibly upset players has a better chance of decreasing player count than anything else. Put more thought into your suggestions instead of throwing darts at random quirks and hoping it works.

Could someone explain why you wouldn't always pick 20% fee? Isn't it always better?

>>30081116
Eh, lets agree to disagree, imo, perfection is the killer of progress

>>30080495
Me too

The game isn't dying, don't we get new players from week to week or something? Hell, I don't remember the last time someone abayo'd

>>30081176
Do it. I won't buy your if you're siphoning 20% off the top on top of the 20% break even tax on your trades.

>>30081478
But.... Isn't that a good thing? Don't none of the changes that were just made change the fact that it's still best for a fund to receive minimal investment, and the more investment a fund receives the worse it becomes???
Or am I missing something here? Because I don't see how any of the changes fix that.

>>30082497
知らん

nasfaqg

Caught up and read the thread. There's only two questions that comes to mind.
What's so bad about change? What is it that you hate the idea of having change? The proposed ideas aren't bad either

>>30089105
It's not the case for everyone, but a few of the anons arguing here don't seem to play the game anymore, or are getting tired of it. I think that when they say they don't want a certain change, what they mean is "It wouldn't make me play again"

>>30089638
If that's the case, then, why not give the game a chance to change? Whatever happens they will still be upset. If the game doesn't change, they're upset that it's dead or is tiring. If a change does happen, they will be upset because, well, a change happened, and they didn't like it or didn't want to adapt to the change. They probably don't notice it or do, but their voices matter a lot because of them being oldfags and rich, and that they're the ones holding back honk on experimenting on his game.

>>30089105
In my case I wasn't arguing no change I was arguing don't just do random shit in hopes something works and actually fucking think about the changes. Think about their impact, short term effects, long term effects, etc. Random pointless changes wastes dev time and some of the things might have a negative response from some players and thus losing players.

>>30090221
The game doesn't have a large enough influx of new players to start mass murdering older players.

>>30090342
>Think about their impact, short term effects, long term effects, etc.
I think it's almost impossible to be sure about these impacts as long as the devs or honk don't try to implement new changes. They're still just rookie game devs. They need to implement a change first to know if the change is doing good or if it's doing bad. They can always just take that change back and reason it as "trying a new feature" if the players are really upset about it or doesn't want to welcome it.

Having the idea of change happening = mass murdering oldfags in itself is very wrong, and is exactly why honk is holding himself back or is very scared of experimenting.

Can I get a summary dont care to read doom posting how to save the thread part 23

How does the new tax system for funds work? How does it scale exactly?

>>30092294
seaons bad current stable state good

>>30093527
>>30069002
>Increase fund multicoin to 100, add incremental tax up to 50% above 50
Assuming it scales linearly, 51 = 10.8%, 52 = 11.6%...100 = 50%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0U4rD5jfNM
Azki!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsTij69xLBc
Azki!

Kakkoi Aki

Just kill the game if (You) want updates to be completely copy-paste of already existing things

>>30094298
>>30096972
so kind of you to spoonfeed retards
I really like her new song

ohhhh i need to shit

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 17)
>Suisei :: $5,627.96
>Nabi :: $4,623.36
>Botan :: $2,107.41

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 53)
>Hololive :: -$7,519.97
>Towa :: -$6,735.78
>Kovalskia :: -$4,405.50

Overall Average Adjustment is -$793.78
Average Upward Adjustment is $1,492.83
Average Downward Adjustment is -$1,527.21

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and see you in a few hours.

Yesterday, only one fund bought Aki. She's adjusting at 13K today, I'm curious to see if anons decide to sell her at that price

>>30069002
You broke the fund autotrader again...

>>30101606
Honk heard complaints about funds being too OP and decided to nerf them by randomly making the autotrader unusable

Pagi!

Beautiful

>>30101606
For anyone with this issue, try shifting your coins around, it may fix it for now at least.

>Mumei's birthday video privated
Somebody that knows more about Youtube: does editing a video and/or reuploading it reset the view count?

Damn I'm late when doomposting was happening. I will still do it anyway.
The thread and game were bound to go like this; rather, it's amazing we're still alive. The lack of updates, even if an update do come it's just the exact same thing as already existing feature, honk trying to force the game to be just a simple proper stock game, the lack of events, even if we do get one it's just items, simply nothing fun happening in the game and honk always being disconnected with what the users from the thread are saying is probably the nail in the coffin. The last one is more apparent during armchair dev arc and when a dev showed a note and the notes don't really go that far. Not to mention the upcoming updates they tell us takes 6 months minimum to get implemented just to turn out it's a recycled feature made into a new one.

>>30081176
You choose 0% so a lot of people will buy into your fund. At the last second you change it to 20% for big profits. Then immediately change it back to 0% and no one will be the wiser.

>>30103366
Why would you say this in the thread instead of keeping it to yourself.........

I shouldn't have neglected my fund...
I wonder if I can turn it into one of the best performing funds. Please look forward to the kinchou dantai performance, I'll try my best!

>>30103629
who is this

>>30103953

>>30104294
BUY BUY BUY UOOHHHHHHH

>>30103615
In a new fund with 1000 shares, you can make a 100% profit in fees with only 5 people scammed. Multiply your net worth in one day with this one weird trick!

>>30104427
why? There are better funds to buy right now

>>30104685
Such as?

>>30104837
Hacchama architecture fund