/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

gay

no worries anon, it's okay to be gay

>>30030120
>>30030196
I don't want to suck his dick

>>30030231
I do and I’m not gay.

The bar is so low. Buddy just talked about Anime earlier. Anyone could do that

>>30030341
Yeah but he seemed to have watched or known about every anime chat mentioned, enough to talk about it for an hour straight and probably many more hours to come.

I have more knowledge about anime than this guy and I'm able to catch up on vtuber streams at the same time. I'll educate you once I get into Hololive and make you feel inadequate.

>>30030444
Hey man, if you’re entertaining, I’ll definitely watch you. Good luck with auditions.

>>30030444
You've got streaming experience then I presume? Post your channel and I'll start watching you immediately, you don't even need to join hololive.

>>30030231
anon, please understand being gay is most manly thing in the world.

>>30030068
Fag

>>30030068
Pity about him moaning into cups of tea during his chatting streams

>>30030341
You say that but why have none of the EN ones done so?

Depends on the topic
I like him talking about practical day to day life stuff. When he talks about specific games or series it's a little bog standard

Not gonna lie I'd like more of his style of zatsudan, regardless of boys or girls. A few indies do so on occassion, but it's rare.

>>30030068
>in HoloEN, the guys are better than the girls because they focus on making good content rather than pretending to be the audience's boyfriend
>in NijiEN, the girls are better than the guys because they focus on making good content rather than pretending to be the audience's girlfriend
funny how that happens

Let's be truthful, Vesper is definitely a bottom.

>>30030341
Talk about anime right now without devolving into a schizoid f/a/ggot nor sounding like one

uhuh

>>30030068
Reminder that you're in a parasocial relationship with him because you think he's your friend.

stop using our vampire hag wife (male) to try and piss people off, retard

That faggot has never read a book in his life.
People disrespecting literary mediums hate.

>>30031972
We are more like work friends. Its fine im not inviting him Gura and Ollie to my BBQ even if they might have fun

>>30030258
weakling. love between men is based. fuck womeme

>>30030068
If you like that kind of expertise and calm zatsudan, I'd recommend Kongouvt on twitch. Him and the orc know each other in the vtuber scene. He has that same style but with a dojo master intense kayfabe. Also ultra seiso. Can talk about SFW 2hu doujins, obscure manga, anime, mecha, beyblades, card games, whatever in depth. Also does japanese poetry on the fly, and sumo watchalongs.

>>30030068
Yeah, that's normal
Men are simply superior in nearly every aspect and most of the ones they aren't is usually due to them not bothering

>>30030068
Word.

>>30032075
Still parasocial. You just don't know what word means anymore because of the braindead vtuber "community".

>>30032131
Oh this dude, I remember him making a lecture on doing collabs that was practically a guide on dealing with autistic kids, it was pretty funny

>>30032195
NTA, but there's literally nothing inherently wrong with a parasocial relationship.

>>30030068
>because they have a vagina
This, but unironically. I can't stand the sound of male voices.

>>30030068
Based

>>30031972
>don’t call out my parasocial delusion with my oshi
>btw your “bro” is just as much a parasocial
Pot meet Kettle

>>30032279
I'm just here to remind you what it actually means because you keep using it like it only means some girlfriend/boyfriend shit.

>>30032326
You're projecting hard because I never said what you claimed I did.

>>30030068
For me is the talks about base building games

>>30032220
kek the vtubing scene does kinda need a bit of collab tardrwangling honestly.
I'm trying to think about more Vesper-likes, if anyone has more suggestions feel free to do so.
Is there even a female equivalent? calm atmosphere and mostly indepth hobbyist zatsudans

>>30032220
heh
the only monkeys paw on Kong ou is where he’s from and who he collabs with but yeah he is a great tard wrangler

After watching Vesper for a bit, I had to stop. He was about to ruin female vtubers for me entirely. I really don't want to watch a dude, and he puts all the women to shame.

>>30031972
No I don't

Business wise, I feel like zoomer bait streamers like genshin or minecraft attract more audience but their income is lowers so less donations.
GFE/BFE can rake in money but it's very susceptible to gigayabs.
Boomer appeal is more niche, but the audience has more money. On the other hand they are probably more prudent with said money though.

>>30030068
It's ok to B gay.

>>30033060
i'm extremely interested to see how much he will make on saturday when SC's open. He's a holostar but it seems like he has a lot of potential gachikoi in his audience..

>>30032941
Yeah, I stopped watching the holoEN girls after a few Tempus streams. Finally came to the realization that I wasted my time watching the EN girls talking about shit I don’t care about most of the time and waiting for something interesting to happen.

>>30032409
NTA but just because you didn’t say it outright doesn’t mean that wasn’t your intent

>>30033060
This also leaks into expectations and behavior. If a vtuber is very into niche talk despite not needing to do so, they feel more authentic and are easier to connect with. Zoomer/FotM vtubers feel kinda exchangeable. GFE/BFE generate a deep connection with the audience, but the danger of going menhera or gosling viewers getting NTR mindbroken is way worse.

>>30030068
name one funny thing he said

>>30033184
I’m definitely donating to him when donations open. He’s a really interesting guy and definitely the best vtuber I’ve watched.

>>30032549
Good chunk of NijiEN, although the zatsu is usually bundled into game streams. Plenty of indies as well. If you want to stick to within Hololive this was a lot of what Ina did in her first year.

The main problem that these sorts of hobby/interest zatsus run into is that you can run out of things to talk about over the long term, especially if you're streaming frequently - it's quite easy to be consuming content at a rate that's too slow for content delivery.

>>30033335

probably during his debut when he said he wanted to challenge Yagoo to a round of golf just so he can body him

>>30030068
I assume like 95% of female vtubers' fans are there for the vagina. It's the only reason I listen to music by Japanese idol groups and Korean girl groups.

This is not exactly a new thing though. Women have been carried by thirsty and simping men since time immemorial. Men use sex appeal to get ahead too, but it generally isn't as effective as it is for women since their target audience is less thirsty and more picky (except for gay men I suppose). Men have to be überchads for it to work, women can just show some cleavage.

>>30033184
>>30033184
He's gonna be swimming in supas. Likeable, nonaggressive personality + boomer audience with disposable income.

>>30033507
hmm that may be true or maybe a skill issue since I've been talking about the same hobbies here for like 16 years and there's no end in sight...
I get they can't get into the same kind of endless autism discussion like the decades spanning Evangelion waifu wars, but also they can actually stream the old games they like, (if they have or dont need permissions, that is)

>>30033566
I do watch Pomu for fun crazy shit, and otaku talk, and Selen for vidya. Or Enna somethings for funny doomer talk. But yeah I won't deny most female vtubers I check are because female+cute+voice. Though I drop'em equally as fast if that's the only thing they have, as the market is saturated enough to find someone with more added value. Being cute doesnt cut it now except for people new to the medium.

>>30030068
Whole Tempus is actually stupidly good. Axel being retarded head-first in Hitman and then deleting vod because he played one without permissions. Maggie and Leader doing comedy gold in their collab.
We didn't deserved such good brotubers, but we got them anyway

>>30034119
I slept on Axel initially but I was sold when I saw him complaining about having to read the brief dialogue in Hitmam because he just wanted to kill everyone.

>>30030068
Theres more simple ways to come out of the closet you know.

>>30032144
this

>>30033566
Well yeah, if not you could just watch any random twitch streamer.

Why do you guys suck his dick so hard?

You can tell the people in this thread dropping other tubers over tempus only watch hololive, because girls from other corpos and indies are more entertaining to watch than holos. I've only been able to catch Vesper's streams a couple times and last time he was droning on about pc parts which is boring as hell, but he seems ok otherwise.

>>30030068
his zomboid stream was so good, no girl loves a game like that

>>30030068
>Vesper made me realise i'm gay.
FIFY

>>30030068
IRyS and Vesper anime talk when??

>>30035468
Please keep this lazy, retarded whore away from my uncle

>>30032131
Him in Stars 2 would be kino

>>30034626
It's interesting that he actually did get better by the end of the second stream.
His last assassination was still a rather violent one but it ended with him sneaking away rather than murdering two dozen people.

>>30032131
/here/ chuuba garbage.

>>30031648
Don't kid yourself anon nearly all the girls in NijiEN pander with GFE excpet maybe Selen. They just turned it down a lot since the guys came along.

>>30035421
mmmm ame bunda...

>>30035978
He never mentions 4chan afaik. He's nowhere near being a /here/ panderer.
By that metric Vesper is more /here/ than him, as he selfposted as PL. And Vesper is also not a /here/tuber either. /here/tubers are panderers.

>>30030068
Yeah, I'm glad I discovered Tempus before subbing to Gura. Gura is only good for karaoke, and her streams that happen once in a blue moon are boring as fuck compared to these guys. She doesn't say anything entertaining, it's just like watching an awkward girl trying to act like a baby to please its pedophile viewers but can't think of anything to say. Only her karaoke is worthwhile, but even then it's not worth 5 dollars a month considering she doesn't even stream. The bros know their shit and there isn't a single bland moment with them. I'm conflicted on who to subscribe to, it's going to be sad when membership starts.

>>30033566
It’s about playing to your strengths. I’m sure there are charismatic women out there but they’re probably marketed to other women and I wouldn’t even be interested in their content because I’m not a woman. If a woman wants to make it in the vtuber scene she needs to pander to her main paypigs and that’s men who want her to act cute.
But I hope you guys here are willing to put your money where your mouth is and actually support Tempus with your wallets.

Vesper made me gay and I’ve been fapping to yaois for almost two weeks.

>>30036096
It's not about gosling baiting, is about "can you offer something else other than cute uguu / ara ara / I'll suck your blood YES MILORD" that is the real question.
It's not like all vtubers need to change, but having more options that offer something extra would be a good thing.

I now only watch the EN boys and the JP girls. That seems the best mix

>>30036794
I watch a selection from everywhere, but your choice is definitely a solid strat.

>>30030068
Nowa is EOP, so that automatically makes him less knowledgeable about anime than IRyS who has seen tons of anime and knows Japanese. He has good taste though.

I was more impressed that Axel knew Megazone 23 and Space Cobra. His dad sounds like a cool guy.

>>30036794
The girls are good for some collabs and the rare occasion where they play something they're actually at least somewhat competent at.
Like Kronii with Frostpunk.
Female vtubers who can actually game in general can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

>>30031859
He's literally an /a/utist your retard, he's from the same generation I came from, his entire anime taste is based off of 2009-2012 /a/'s taste

>>30030068
Maletubers shouldn't exist, and at the very least we should have two separate boards - /vt/ for vtubers and /mt/ for maletubers. It's extremely offputting and annoying having to see these abominations here.

I'm never watching a single fag, and I'm dropping any chuuba who collabs with males. Maletubers are a cancer, a disease, a tumor. You cannot overestimate the amount of contempt and hatred I have for these chucklefucks and their bullshit. They should simply not exist. They are destroying vtubing by their mere existence.

>>30035102
It's just Cover's paid shills.

>>30037101
Retards like you don't deserve to watch brotubers anyway.

>>30031648
Horny people have shit taste, it's a universal rule

>>30037101
i think it would be really funny if they collabed with every single girl you care about

>>30037101
metaposts are offtopic and shouldnt exist

>>30030068
I already had realized that with Luxiem, but yes, male chuubas seem to be higher quality entertainment, even in the cases when they are all retarded zoomers in personality (such as how it is in Luxiem)

>>30036992
>Female vtubers who can actually game in general
Not many besides Apex players, some girls in /retro/, a few indies, and a few special vtuber+niche pairs, like gura and rhytmn games, or haachama and minecraft building.
But yeah less than like 5% of the hundreds at this point of female vtubers are at least good at games outside valorApex.

>>30036992
I feel like if you delve into 2-views and indies you can probably find proper female gamer Vtubers but that kinda stuff won’t get them popular. The majority of the audience that watches female Vtubers are just coomers and weebs. And the corpos know that, which is why they don’t care about gaming ability at all when hiring.
I know this thread is for complaining about female Vtubers, but I mainly blame the consoomers for turning the female streaming landscape into this in the first place.

>>30030068
>It made me realise that the only reason I watch female vtubers is because they have a vagina
thats pretty sad. glad that you left us.

>>30037101
They are talking with your oshi on discord right now and there's nothing you can do about it

>>30037095
I hope you did your 2006-2007 backlog reps, because those years were kino

>>30037282
>brotubers
Faggotry.

>>30037388
Chuubas who matter have standards and do not collab with worthless parasites.

>>30037409
Shitting on maletubers is obligatory and should be the norm. They are a disease that needs to be eradicated.

>>30037101
Anons this autistic will eventually drop chuubas because they are too triggered by other anons going about their normal day and cannot exist in this space for much longer

>>30037794
He's one of the chumpedos stuck in the past from 2 weeks ago who didn't give in like the rest of us. We all thought we'd hate these bros but they just turned out to be way above our expectations.

>>30037762
Somebody's insecure

>>30037762
Look at this worm thinking he's some paragon.

>>30037670
To be a maletuber you first and foremost have to be a failed male and an incel. So it doesn't matter. What matters is to completely eradicate them from the culture. They are superfluous to it and a gateway of shit.

>>30037762
You are male, pretend you are a chuuba and finish the job whiny faggot

>>30037929
>eradicate
Fucking kek
This guy is going to stop using this board in a month or two because he will have a schizo episode from seeing one too many pngs of a male, and that will be the end of it

>>30037794
>>30037920
>>30037923
Maletubers are just parasites who latched on to it all because they are otherwise worthless, and more importantly they appeal to niggercattle like you - who have no intrinsic interest in vtubing. (You) and them are the same problem.

>>30037762
I know such a basic /vt/ bitch post has to be bait, but I'll bite anyways:
>Chuubas who matter have standards
I guess HoloJP gen 0-1 are bad then, since they have collabed with males a lot, including Sora, Miko and Fubuki. So did most old vtubers.

>>30038158
>who have no intrinsic interest in vtubing
That sounds like an argument to be made against streamers as a whole after the 2019-2020 vtuber boom.

>>30038158
i want to make you even madder so you keep posting and wasting your useless time

>>30031648
>in HoloEN, the guys are better than the girls because they focus on making good content rather than pretending to be the audience's boyfriend
>in NijiEN, the guys are better than the guys because they focus on pretending to be the audience's boyfriend rather than making good content
Purity is literally all women have. When you demolish that by injecting men into the ecosystem, what are they even good for?

>>30038158
Just drop the hobby if you don't like the direction the industry is going in retard, all the smart schizos already did that when corpo male chuubas came out. Posting /here/ and lapping about "eradication" is just your aspergers acting up or something

>>30038158
you talk like a seething kiwifarmer or some shit that got into vtubing so late /vt/ was already made by then. You seem to think neo-cover's vtubing style is "vtubing". Your opinion is worthless.

>>30032362
Sure, but when you say "Reminder that you're..." it's implying that its a bad thing. Its not.
If you want to educate, tell people that they are in a parasocial relationship, but thats a good thing! It just means that there's one of him and lots of you!

>>30038196
Standards have been set since them. Chuubas who collab with males are worthless.

>>30038289
You are literally kneeling in front of faggots. I couldn't care less about you. I'm simply pointing out that it's high time for an organized effort to destroy maletubers.

>>30038481
>Standards have been set since them. Chuubas who collab with males are worthless.
I guess OGs like Fubuki aren't worthless since she's still doing well and supports the Holostars.

>>30038294
If the only value you see in a woman is her purity, then you could always follow twitter feminists instead since I doubt they’ve ever felt the touch of a man.
Oh what’s that? They’re cunts? And they don’t stream? Well then I guess you do care about things other than purity after all.

>>30038436
>purity
>something that women have
good joke anon. The only thing women have are the society's need for reproduction and lonely losers like you that tie their own self-worth to women.

>>30038399
An alternative perspective: the presence of more male chuubas means that the overseas chuuba market is evolving to the point where it more closely resembles the JP chuuba market, which has always had successfully males every since fucking 2018. If you didn't know this you are a retarded EOP and it's a no brainer that things are going this way. This isn't changing chuubas, if anything things are closer to the original state of affairs in the country they come from.

>>30038436
It's a 1:N relationship. Streamer to chat.
The only problem arises when the people that make up that N number expect to be treated as a 1:1 relationship (this is also why people get mad when a mod or a viewer gets preferential treatment, it breaks the stability and rules of the system).
Ultimately I agree there is nothing wrong with parasocial IF both the streamer and the viewer knows how to handle it, and the rules and dynamics are clear.

>>30038436
A sexless relationship is a bad relationship.
>>30038481
"Blame the men" is literally what caused this problem in the west. Doubling down on what didn't work the first time is retarded. You're retarded. Fuck it, I'm tapping the sign again.

>>30030068

>>30038801
Maletubers shouldn't exist, everyone who watches them is a fag, and no chuuba who collabs with men is worth watching.

Anything beyond that is irrelevant to me.

>>30038481
Stay in your corner and watch Gura, don't come back to the board if seeing males makes your mood disorders act up. This board already likes male chuubas way more than expected and most people outside of this were always ok with them. You lost the culture war, take your loss and go home.

>>30038956
Gura will be forced to collab with them if she wants to stay relevant.

>>30030068
It's really hilarious seeing holodrones worship some generic brotubers now that cover's told them males are good. I knew you were mindless, but I still didn't expect you to throw away your whole ideology so quickly. If they put a blue triangle next to a pile of dog shit you'd all watch that for hours

>>30031240
because the moment they got money and independence they think about becoming a normie and popping out babies.

>>30037263
>he says as Niji is caught botting so hard yesterday even number sites called out their bullshit
Keep the projections coming

>>30038481
>It's another episode of "delusional schizo with gigachad god-emperor complex, who thinks the presence of any other male is a threat, who at most will create an epik discord (full of males for added irony) to be a minor internet nuisance."

Yawn. I'll sleep well knowing that the market forces for vtubing will crush your irrelevant existence.

>>30039347
Former numberking Kuzuha became a chuuba in 2018, this guy lost before he even knew what a chuuba fucking was

>>30038978
If anything, tempiss has proven most people don't give a shit about homos other than some astroturfers and contrarians here. Tempiss had almost every EN girl shilling them, two nights of EN primetime to theselves, and massive advertising, and they're still only get a fraction of what council did after their debut

>>30038956
Just because of you I’m gonna go apply to audition for StarsEN2

>>30039516
Play FFV and I’ll watch you, bro.

>>30039509
>”Tempiss”
Oh look, it’s the /#/s guy that keeps losing his balls on CCV bets against Tempus

bruh

>>30039509
>numerofag
Yeah I don't care
Males are here to stay regardless of numbers, if you don't like em don't watch em, if you get too triggered from them existing even when you don't watch them just leave

>>30039658
I honestly wish they would just leave. It would make /ggg/ much less toxic. That place is horrible for discussing collabs.

>>30039583
Deal
I’ll even pull an Axel and play it without permissions

>>30039509
>If anything, tempiss has proven most people don't give a shit about homos
It's the opposite. Barely anyone paid attention to Holostars before this, Tempus put them back on the map to where they got tons of support. Their viewerships are still incredibly stable, and that's one thing you cant say for most vtubers outside of Cover. There wasn't really much of a a "Hololive/Cover buff" either, their models were rough, they were trying to appeal to an untested audience for the company, and they still have a handicap in the form of hour-long mandates.
And yet people still tune in because they're entertaining.

>>30040006
Homos had stable viewership before Tempus, Homofags are one of the most militantly dedicated tiny fanbases I've ever seen. What they always struggled with was getting newfags to notice them. Now that problem has been solved.

>>30039014
Only chuubas who don't collab with males will stay relevant, because dogshit people who infested the culture will simply leave after a while. Maletubers are temporary, idols are eternal.

>>30038978
See the above. Maletubers have no future. You'll be back to watching pewdiepie and other "brotubers" soon enough. This isn't for you.

>>30039740
holy based

>>30040184
>Maletubers are temporary, idols are eternal
The delusion is real.

>>30040184
Retard women watch chuubas too and they buy fuck tons of merch, the money speaks louder than your whining does. The demand is there and the supply will be there, that's capitalism, deal with it unicommie

>>30040184
don't you owe a bunch of anons in /#/ money for the multiple bets you lost?

>>30037929
Reminder that even literal 2view male chuubas can easily fuck female chuubas with ten times their CCV like Koopa, post the audio on twitter and suffer no blowback

>>30040006
StarsJP was never shilled even a fraction as much as tempiss was. They've been treated like EN3 in everything but name. Despite that, they're still far behind where Council was at this point after their debut, and their numbers are dropping daily

>>30040184
A lot of the "brochuuba" types will move on but this >>30040285 is correct, as long as women can spend money male chuubas will always exist

>>30040495
Say one thing that isn't about numbers right now

>>30040285
>unicommie
holy kek that's a good one. They really do screech about muh perceived social issues like some kind of reverse feminist.

>>30040184
Male vtubers have existed far longer than your newfag ESL ass.

>>30036355
He hangs out with them constantly and drops into their collabs all the time. Doesn't get any more /here/ than the Denny's streams.

>>30040507
Too bad tempiss's audience isn't women, but male hololive tourists who are bored after not getting and new gen in almost a year. And the real EN3 is probably coming out within a few months

>>30036355
>selfposted as PL

Funny claim with no proof.

>>30040668
go back to /#/ and give them their money you faggot

>>30040668
Do you even watch streams? A lot of Tempus's real fans are definitely women (many of them either older starsfems, nijifems, or ex nijifems), things are pretty balanced

>>30040668
You haven’t seen their chat or look at who’s been making fanarts for them on twitter.

>>30030068
>imageboard friendship simulator the chuuba

>>30040668
>>30040611

>>30030068
Ok gay , also tell me how many times you cum while watching him

>>30040628
>"I'm angry that there are people who disagree with me who have money to spend on things I don't like, and I'm going to piss myself and make a scene about it"
Literal SJW behavior

>>30035978
so was Vesper
IRONIC

>>30040495
>They've been treated like EN3 in everything but name
I don't see how. You get a few talents saying to check them out and then most of them dip out quick. If you mean about YAGOO supporting them in terms of websites and merch, it's because he really loves the Holostars.

>>30040668
>And the real EN3 is probably coming out within a few months
Even if it comes out (in that timeframe) it won't matter much. Cover has squandered its good name by introducing male cancer into it all, and by doing so it destroyed one of its defining features and the source of their appeal - idols. They stooped to the level of Nijisanji and it's to be expected that EN3 will collab with male cancer by default, and as such there's no reason to watch them. I have no idea who they'll be, but I can tell you right away I won't be watching even their eventual debut. Because I lost trust in Cover. I simply don't expect them to be good. They failed to live up to their previous standards, and so aren't even the standard anymore. The reason Nijisanji was seen as lesser than Hololive is precisely due to the presence of male tumors. Now, both companies are effectively the same. And I don't watch them. I only watch Gura and a couple of chuubas from smaller corpos.

This is a roundabout way to reach the starting point, which is that fags who pretend to like "brotubers" will fuck off to watch the usual garbage they watched before and latch on to this or that RL face streamer, and the only lasting impact will be the decline of Hololive and gradual building up of smaller corpos who will learn from their mistake. Idols are forever, males are temporary. It's just that Niji and Holo will lose preeminence.

tl;dr I'm not even going to bother watching EN3 debut because there's no standard anymore.

>>30041191
/here/ chuubas latched onto him because they saw he had potential and was getting bigger. He collabed with 2views he wouldn't say no to anybody.

>>30041198
They cleared out two whole nights of EN primetime for them, had watchalongs, tons of advertising. They were shilled more heavily than council, if anything

>>30041257
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE STAY IN YOUR CONTAINMENT THREAD CHUMFUCK

>>30041339
The shark rarely streams for the past six months, they don’t have anything to talk about besides writing fanfics about marrying and fucking her.

>>30041257
>I only watch Gura and a couple of chuubas from smaller corpos.
It was obvious from the way you spoke. God, chumpedos are toxic as fuck. Glad I never subbed to Gura who panders to freaks like you. She's truly a has-been.

>>30036794
based and correct anon

>>30041257
>fags who pretend to like "brotubers" will fuck off to watch the usual garbage they watched before
i am definitely not dropping nowa nor axel anytime soon, both fuckers are just too funny.

>>30041467
>toxic
Only women or fags use this term. Either way she towers over you. She is the golden standard of vtubing.

>can't sing
>can't draw
>can't speak Japanese
>no apparent ties to his senpais
>no creative streams
>no special gimmick/talent
>not that good at games
>zatsudans are mainly just about stuff he consumed over the years, or what his genmates did
If anything, Vesper just proved to me that as long as you can satisfy normalfags with being hip and "one of them", you'll get numbers regardless of how good you are as a streamer.

>>30041257
>males are temporary
Why is Chronoir still here? Wait, this is a chumtard EOP that probably doesn't even know who that is, nevermind

>>30041808
>She is the golden standard of vtubing.

>>30030068
Cool, though I'm not a flaming faggot so I'm still not going to watch a fucking male.

>>30041823
Congratulations, you’ve just described 99% of all streamers.

>>30041808
Don't get me wrong, I love Gura and still listen to her songs everyday. I just hate chumkeks and everything about /ggg/. As a greychad who lurked and posted there everyday for 6 months I can spot a chumpedo from a mile away so I knew the one shitting up this thread was one too. Gura was ruined by the fanbase.

>>30041808
>"Golden standard"
You spelled Kizuna AI wrong, know your place

>>30030068
HoloJP>HomoEN>HoloEN

>>30040641
He also collabs with no-names and unrelated 2views. But I guess for you all of holoID are /here/tubers since Moona reads her threads lmao
The fact is he doesn't pander to 4chins. /here/tubers are known, and open about it. Why is your point such a tenuous, twitter-like"guilt by association"? It seems almost personal...

>>30037538
There's a reason why we don't have an unisex stream charts, alll the males basically rape the females on views alone.
''Most viewed Vtuber? cool, this random brazilian guy mogs all of them and he isn't the biggest''

>>30042020
Yes.

>>30041983
Chumfucks made me stop watching Gura, not because I have anything against her, but because I didn't want to enable chumfuck cancer. I applaud Gura for despising a solid chunk of her fanbase and purposefully debuffing herself for the greater good

>>30041257
There's a good chance tempiss will be shuffled off to a corner to be forgotten like starsjp, but EN management is so obsessed with homos that I wouldn't be surprised if they try to force collabs to prop them up

>>30041287
The watchalong was definitely new, and yeah it was weird that they had a whole two nights to debut them for two hours each as opposed to doing it all at once.
But I don't recall them ever doing tons of advertisements compared to Council, it's not like they're even running paid ads on random streams like Nijisanji. They still had the same 3 video lore/teaser -> debut pattern. Only difference is that Hololive shat out Omega while Stars got an original song, probably again because Yagoo seems to really care more about Stars.

>>30041287
>They were shilled more heavily than council, if anything
did you forget all those stupid lore videos being released for a whole month?

>>30042263
Of course Yagoo cares more about the Holostars. He is male and they are male, he can and did get closer to them than (most) of the girls besides Sora and Polka. In Japan that's no suprise

>>30041968
Yeah, and consequently 99% of all streamers aren't worth watching because they barely differ from each other. Watch one and you've watched all of them. Vesper is the same, except instead of seeing him before on Twitch, I saw him on a forum or an imageboard 10 years ago.

>>30042549
Damn bro, hook me up with the names of those awesome streamers you’ve been watching.

>>30042028
There's been multiple times of links being posted in the back desk and Kongou instantly showed up. He has never self posted but he is /here/

>>30042549
Holy fuck this numberfag unironically implied that Mr. Beast and Pewdz are "worth watching" because big numbers

>>30041840
No, I have no idea who that is - because I don't watch or care about maletubers. They are subpar leeches who shouldn't be in this at all. What part of that is hard for you to understand?

>>30041983
>grey
Opinion irrelevant.

>>30042190
Possible. EN management is antagonistic to vtubing and is trying to destroy it by making it more "western" which means vulgar, standardless shit like every other form of entertainment/propaganda we get here.

>>30041823
The ONLY good point made here is that Vesper can't speak Japanese and can't communicate as easily with his senpais. This is the one thing I would change about him if I could

>>30042956
I wish I could teach Vesper Japanese. I would teach it for free, even. Hope he'd hit me up so we can enjoy some tea and Japanese 101 together.

>>30042893
>some of the most successful chubbas, former number kings, are subpar
>doesn't know shit about the history of the industry, doesn't even pretend to know, only thinks with their own autism
I hope Gura graduates and Chumbuds leave forever holy shit I hate EOPs

>>30042724
Absolute fucking retard, where did I imply that numbers are what determines a good streamer? Quite the opposite, actually: normalfags flock to mediocre talents that are "relatable" while the unique ones are in a significantly harder position.

>>30042893
The third thing you said is peak unicommie. They are catering to western sensibilities in a western market and Japanese sensibilities in a Japanese market, how dense are you? Acting exactly like JP chuubas would unironically be a debuff. A lot of Gura's numbers come from the normalfags who latched onto reddit tier memes.

>>30042028
Zia has nothing to do with this you faggot.

>Men show admiration and respect for a fellow man
>W*men assume it's because they're gay

reminder that women are literally incapable of understanding friendship and brotherhood.

>>30042674
Might be. Still, no direct pandering to 4chan. Moona reads her threads and has directly answered to thread comments by writing a tweet. That makes her more of a /here/tuber, which is ridiculous.

>>30044413
/u/tards are literally exactly like this though, it's not women, it's people who jack off to homosexuality in general

>>30030068
dont worry bro let's be gay together

>CAPTCHA: 2GEIR8A

>>30045493
Let's be homos (no homo)

>>30045493
>>30049001
I'll do the homie with you bros. No homo.

>>30044413
Truer words have never been spoken.

>>30030068
Hag love, but this time its a guy

>>30030341
and yet they don't

>>30050635
Hag love.

>>30042263
they were guerilla marketing them like what they did with HoloX

>>30032131
kongou's voice fucking sucks

He seems like an old naive person. Arrogant just like OP. A chink you can revel in each others shit with.

>>30030068
Now you understand why they have the one hour limit. Its not to avoid burnout but to avoid BTFO'ing the the girls

>>30033248
You are projecting my intent.

>>30030068
you like men

>>30030068
You're either a femcel who almost never interacts with men irl or a very isolated and lonely dweeb that grew up without a father/strong male role model in your life. I find it more believable you're just a femcel larping as a guy because I find it hard to believe a normal male would make a thread like this.

>>30030068
I like Vesper too and found his zatsus comfy, but ever since they mentioned NL I switched to him since he's even better. like Vesper's voice but

>>30066882
*Also I do like Vesper's voice but his laugh is too loud and I feel like I'm getting earraped each time he laughs

>>30036355
He doesn’t mention /wvt/ but he is 100% from there considering a lot of the people he collabs with and the people who watch him are. He also knows all of /vt/‘s memes

>>30030068
This but Tempus in general, the girls feel kinda shallow now, especially when playing FOTM shit like Stray

I wonder why the antis are so butthurt, are they really friendless bitches who find pleasure in the gfe and are jealous about the brohood? kinda pathetic, not gonna lie

>>30030231
sure bro.

>>30032131
his forced laugh makes him unwatchable

>>30032131
kongou is too preachy and his whole thing is teaching the autists in chat how to be kind of normal
I don't want to open a stream and have this boomer pinoy lecture me on how to not harass women

>>30030068
yeah I'd touch tips

>>30033718
>I've been talking about the same hobbies here for like 16 years and there's no end in sight...
Repeating the same thing over and over again won't work in streaming.

>>30030068
>anon realizes he's been gay all this time