/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>Vote Results
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>CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical tomfoolery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Suggest and add to it!!

>Anchor post for the chuubanite concept.

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>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them

Last but not least, an anon stepped up and wanted to do a quick tourist's guide for the various nations of Vitubia! (>>29911443 (Cross-thread)) If you are up for it please submit a short text that introduce your nation by replying to this post. More details in the rentry below.
https://rentry.org/ziuog

at the bottom of the prompts anchor.

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>>29960680
24 HOURS REMAINING IN DIVEGRASS POLL!
--> https://strawpoll.com/polls/e6Z2eKP8EgN <--

Time is ticking, so be sure to vote if you want your voice heard! So far our four medalists
War-Anon - Meta
Holy Ghost - /morig/
/meat/ Stealth Thread - /meat/
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS - /risu/
are already locked in, with 19 other spots remaining. Details such as the player name are not necessarily final, so choose the player ideas you like best. Good luck to all our candidates!

/vtwbg/ DIVEGRASS ROSTER POLL IS ONGOING!
--> https://strawpoll.com/polls/e6Z2eKP8EgN <--

Time is ticking, so be sure to vote if you want your voice heard! So far our four medalists
War-Anon - Meta
Holy Ghost - /morig/
/meat/ Stealth Thread - /meat/
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS - /risu/
are already locked in, with 19 other spots remaining. Details such as the player name are not necessarily final, so choose the player ideas you like best. Good luck to all our candidates!

>>29961510
>>29961548

>>29961481
I prefer Lunaito, I’m sorry.

can we just gag panon from talking? his mere voice causes problems like the fucking schizo he is.

Respond to the Schizo and you get malepregged. No talking about other posters.

>>29961481
>no trip
hhhmmmmmm...

>>29961698
I’d gag panon, if you catch my drift.

>>29961810
No. Back off whore. Now world build.

>>29961935
You’ll never catch me alive!

>>29961992
*Catches you* times up buckaroo

>>29947477
>>29947713
I've kept a changelog of everything I've done since starting the interactive map, so here's an explanation of what's happened. Disclaimer: there have been other changes from before the interactive map that I would have to go archive diving for, not all of these changes necessarily correspond to in-universe events.
>reverted /who/-/uuu/ borders
The great annexation. /who/ received a considerable amount of /uuu/'s land since the thread was repless at the time and didn't care what happened to it. There was a vote held later which forced /who/ to give the land back and helped set new precedents regarding the treatment of repless territory. /who/ also traded some shoreline with Hoshiyomia (/suisei/) prior to this.
>moved /pyon/ and /wvt/
/wvt/ was originally where /yah/ and the grey spot are today, with /pyon/ originally in /wvt/'s current spot. /pyon/ vacated to get a newly constructed island courtesy of the goddess Kiki herself and /wvt/ moved in to be closer to related threads.
>swapped /fbk/ with /mion/
Self-explanatory, the borders were slightly modified as well.
>added /vrt/ and moved /yah/
/yah/ was originally in /vrt/'s spot before getting pushed to the upper part of ex-/wvt/ to give them the same climate they had requested before the poles got expanded.
>replaced /mion/ with /okfams/, /duck/ with /pagi/, and /corpo/ with /aa/
RIP dead threads. These nations used to be on the map before being replaced with something more active.
>changed nijikr to /kr/
Name change to reflect thread, may have lore implications.
>replaced /rose/ with /obsy/ and /nijiid/ with /warkop/
Perhaps too hasty in hindsight since the former came back and the latter went through even more changes in identity.
>added /ehe~/
The only of ID3 to get put in currently, mostly because they had a rep wanting to write for them. Their territory was carved out of /bakatare/.
>added /nenmen/
Taken from /nijien/.
>changed niji and /pcg/-/clg/ borders
Niji stuff was just an overhaul, likely a retcon. The other change was due to chuubas changing corpos and the nations being neighbors.
>renamed rushia to /rumina/, /clg/ to /aeg/, and /obsy/ to /rose/
It got renamed to /mikeneko/ first, but then immediately had to be changed again. Current lore is unclear but they've been through a lot. More cosmetic name changes to reflect the actual threads.
>picrel
The map before these changes.

>>29940113
Tyty!!!! I tried out a new writing style that I've seen a while ago!!!!
>What I am missing, however, is a description of the superintendant. If he is supposed to be the central character, it would be nice to have an image to put in our heads.
Oh!!!! You noticed it!!!! My original intention was to not even name him!!!! But then I don't think the story would flow that well!!!
>Also, english leaking out a bit again?
Is it????? Can you show me where??? I feel better now, so I think I can notice it if you show me!!!!
Tyty for the support!!!!!!

Notice how peaceful the thread is without the narcissist niji here? Toxic guy that writes good lore. Should just lore post and dip, as his opinion on everything sucks and he has to be right, to be in every conversation, to respond to everyone, to defend his nijifriends, and to threaten other for his ego. He just earned himself another anti, this one being a writer here. Fuck him, and fuck anyone who makes excuses for him saying he is sweet, knowledgeable and works hard. The latter is true, the two others are not. He treats everyone like shit and shits on others, like OGsuner and Retroanon all the time. Whoever brought him in deserves to be included in this as well for bringing this cancer into the thread.

>>29963106
I brought him in. Its my fault, i am sorry…

>>29963106
>writer here
doubt it. Our writers would know that regardless of the drawbacks of panon's presence, it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, nothing to go schizo over.

>>29963106
>>29963223
>the very first version of Vitubia only had the holocontinent
should have stayed that way desu

>>29963366
agreed but can vrt join

>>29963223
Unfortunately, you are not capable of adequately falseflagging as me.

>>29963366
:(((((

>>29963552
The gif didn’t work…

>>29963106
>nijifags ruin thread
Shocking

>>29963481
Only if onobots know the answer to the sacred question: who is best girl?

>>29963481
ohh is it my turn to be falseflagged??!!!

>>29963639
rosebud can't falseflag as rosebud...

I just want to say. You have a tiny PP antichama, you will never be with a woman and your writing reflects your personality. Non existant. Moving on. How is everyone.

I don't know why anyone still bothers with obvious schizo posts

>>29963742
Non existent like your chest.

>>29963803
The thread was too peaceful for too long. Residents forgot this is still 4chan

>>29963803
I mean, he has a point? I really cant say panon is endearing at all and is a narcissist.

>>29963882
But flat chests are better than big breasts?

The worst thing panon has done is bring in all those damn nijien schizos kek.

>>29963979
more like catalogfags.

>>29963971
BASED. Closer to my heart!!!!

>>29963965
He's a tough love kind of guy

I mean there is some truth. He is a narcissistic asshole who feels the need to protect his other writers. But hes not THAT bad.

>>29964120
More like he is very protecting of his friends, which does get him in shit a lot.

>>29964279
The issue is >soc, as usual... You're free to make friends in the thread, but when that starts to completely define how you and other prominent posters interact within the thread, you need to cut it out, move to private or something.

>>29964279
He thinks they are lesser than him like he is the father of nijis. Another reason to hate him for his >soc shit.

>>29964616
Antichama I don't think anyone but other antis dick ride him as much as you

God stop talking about fucking panon, either to shit on him or to suck his dick, do some worldbuilding.
And stop biting bait you feeble newfags, this shit's not hard.

Could you please shut the fuck up about me and what you think I think or suppose why I do things. Its basely conjecture that adds nothing to world building at all.
>soc
You are doing far more of it by talking about me rn than I do in your suppositions. Came to check if this was still going on and sure enough, TAP THE FUCKING SIGN. Peace for a couple days or whenever.

>>29964728
Telling that half the posters here hate him.

>>29964801
Panon love tbdesu...

>>29964801
Hey, you were literally asking for it. >>29960073

>>29956063
use "mak" to create a noun, you can use "li" as an indicator for adjectives, so it would be like Na li Lir Gulʒ", though to your credit i never defined this outside of my head and reversing the word order and using nir would change very little
https://files.catbox.moe/8a7w65.pdf
new words, for the minerals i was gonna make those holodhennet loanwords but i've had a shit evening and am at a wits end, so just make those up with respect to the holodhennet alphabet and then approximate them to kat nol or some shit

>>29964107
You get it. I’d go off on a tangent, but we aren’t anywhere near bump limit so I will refrain from doing so. But know that I very well am capable of doing so.

>>29964969
he was testing the retards kek.

>>29960278
Tell me which parameters you need help with in terms of Oppia, I'll try my best to assist.
I've just skimmed the Goddess Faithful document and will read it in full tomorrow while in transit. Love the organizational chart.
>>29965008
Conlang anon, I'll update the Rentry in the next week, hopefully. Sorry that I've been procrastinating on it, especially when you did a ton of good work.

>>29964801
Might I suggest taking off the trip when you aren't specifically making posts about your thread? To be perfectly honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if half of the damn drama in these threads would disappear if avataring/tripfagging was kept to an absolute minimum. This goes for more than just you

>>29965275
I avatarpost but I also post anonymously. Maybe it's not kept to a minimum, but it's certainly not every post.

>>29965275
>he doesnt know
Anon… he got a trip because of falseflaggers… and it has been better since he got it.

>>29965374
Oh I know, but he doesn't have to keep using it all the time. And honestly should take his own advice of not feeding the trolls.

I for one really like Panon and the other nijifriends
Even though sometimes we do have disagreements, and sometimes alice scares me a bit, I'm glad they have joined the project!

Panon love! Nijifriends love!

>>29965008
Thank you for your hard work! I also considered proposing using holodhennet loanwords for the gemstones, since they would naturally be highly valued culturally.

Im sorry to hear your evening has been bad. Hope things turn out better for you conlang bro.

and with that WORLDBUILDING THREAD

>>29965565
Hehe

>>29962539
>I tried out a new writing style that I've seen a while ago!!!
You did, didn't you? I didn't want to mention it in case it was just in my head, but it did feel different than the last story. I love that you ain't afraid to experiment and branch out with writing styles. Comes with being a bookworm I suppose :P
>Also, english leaking out a bit again?
Hell it might be just me being an ESL again and not understanding the depths of English language, but there were a few spots where it felt a bit weird. Would love to go over them together, but I'm both phoneposting from work and tired as all hell, so I doubt my own ability to really explain myself right now.

>>29961630
Sorry Founder sama but you can't beat- >>29961481
wait what did you say?

To that one risuner that enjoyed melody, she's live right now.
That is all.

>>29965472
I think his idiosyncrasy is too obvious for that to work, but I guess practice makes perfect which is why I'm practising

>>29966509
???? Explain like i am 5 or a woman (i am)

Owlright to clear things up: In universe there would be quite a lot of disdain towards /inf/, people are not too fond of both kronies and infinitopia. While a kronie might be able to befriend a hooman they would usually be treated with apprehension first. This reaction is both the result of /inf/'s culture which The Owl Republic's citizens regard as corrupting and degenerate; and the practice of disparaging the nameless one, which regardless of how often it happens now or before, formed a quite negative image of the island's inhabitants.
For NjiEn, there WILL BE NO WARS. That short story I wrote was purely based on that one dream the nashag kronie had, and I had a big damn banner on top which says it's NON-CANON. Also if you remembered correctly it happened BEFORE the thing happened. For the twitter bullcrap in universe it's mostly schzios and dramafags just like what happens on the real life board. There's no reason to declare war or invade because there's nothing to invade or fight over for this nothing burger. Just another day on the schzio rampant hellhole of a planet of Vitubia.

>>29967299
tad late for that statement mate.

>>29959129
Got preoccupied, then my phone didn't save my draft so I had to write it again... It's not even quite a draft but more of an outline... Anyway, here is the idea I had in mind!
https://rentry.org/wvk9g
I hope it is to your liking

>>29967299
:(

>>29966809
His behavior sticks out like a sore thumb, tripcode or not. That's why it wouldn't work if he only used the trip for official posts and chat without it normally.

>>29962539
>>29965815 me
Oh and if you want to go over it and discuss it anyway, I'll probably be able to respond normally in like 15ish hours probably, just gotta catch some zzz's first.

>>29967806
I guess he does stick out :(

Who do I link to for /nasa/'s tourist summary?

>>29967520
Just restating things to make sure everyone is on the same page. While some shitposts I did in the past might have caused some anons to have an unclear perception on /who/-/inf/ relations, the NjiEn thing is very clear and I do remember posting quite clearly like 2 threads ago.

>>29967299
>>29967668
Forgot to add but while there's bad blood there would also BE NO WARS with /inf/. How it actually works would depend on how the politics lore turns out, but unless there's something happened that really put a dent in the bilateral relationship or a great shift in geopolitics that somehow intensified the rivalty vis-a-vis /inf/. For now the pro-war faction is a very vocal minority in both the public and in the government.

>>29968163
You canjust post it, and if the anon that was compiling them comes around while I'm on, I'll link it to him if he misses it.

>>29968163
sanalite...

>>29968163
here: >>29911443 I see /2434/rep forgot to add the thing

>>29968357
It's there, the bread's just burnt. It's beneath the oceans anchor.

>>29968337
Okay, I guess I'll do that.

>>29968357
You could repost the anchor in this thread.

>>29968355
/nasa/ didn't last long but it did have a history. So I want to write a summary of what /nasa/ was before its gone. Could be under the lost thread section.

>>29967569
Ahh that was so fun. Had a couple good chuckles reading this. "socially stunted nation" "admittedly tasteful" kek good stuff.
>no better than dox schizos
You know, I had this idea for a worldwide anti-deadbeat movement, to reflect the reality that many threads hate Deadbeats and Mori, loosely based on antisemitism. Maybe I should actually write about it.
Anyway, let's anchor this, it's good backstory! Nice work!

>>29968357
OH THAT WAS POSTED WHILE I WAS BAKING BLAME THEM NOT ME for throwing ingredients into the bread while it was bakjnf

>>29968272
I've held a pretty strong grip on interthread relations for reasons like these, if you ever want to know our relations with any other thread just ask me about it and i'll come us up with something

Hmmmm, whose logo and flag does this remind me off????????

Talking about laterite bricks is fun but I wonder which nations would have the climate for adobe and cob? I know cob is used in Wales and Ireland and adobe is used in arid climates.

>>29968647
Thank you kindly! I imagine the deadbeat going through the literature politely stifling a grimace before flipping the page and making a sort of "huh" face. Like the meme format in pic related
>spoiler
KEK
Go for it! I think that'd play well to your history

>>29962535
Hugely helpful, thanks
Curious as to what constitutes a dead thread since a few of those on the map seem to be dead as well. Like hoshiyomia for example. Haven't seen one of those in a hot minute

>>29968337
>>29968596
I'm around, hit me anon

>>29969226
Anon, there's a suisei thread up right as we speak...

I have a topic for /inf/.

Since your country is based on Frostpunk I wonder what's your real world architecture's inspiration?

>>29969332
There's like three different spots on that map that constitute a Suisei related general

>>29969226
>Curious as to what constitutes a dead thread since a few of those on the map seem to be dead as well.
Most of us just hang out in a couple generals, so we're not always aware of what threads are active on the catalog. We tend not to remove threads from the map unless we need room for someone else.

>>29968647
Ooh morig. Would you be interested in forming a bit of a cooperative trade thingy with us (nasfaqg) and infinity?
I think this makes sense, all three of us already have extensive trade deals with each other.

https://rentry.org/ATL_Founding_Agreement

The idea is, we form a trade league between our nations, and between the members of this league we have trade free of all tariffs. There is no military alliance outside of an agreement to protect league member's merchants within the territories you consider under your jurisdiction.

>>29969413
???

>>29969332
You're right, I'm retarded. Ignore that comment

>>29969438
I see. Though given how often generals come and go might it worth it to have something "grandfathered in" so to speak until their respective talent retires? Or would that be unfair?

I mainly just feel bad for subaru and mio desu so take my suggestion with a pound of salt and a dash of pepper

Also I remember a user suggesting that the map can't be altered geographically so how would new nations be created except by replacing older ones? Or is that exactly what happens?

>>29969619
migomet, suisei general, and /vsinger/

>>29969536
This has my support, that's for sure! It looks lucrative and would serve well to bring all three nations closer.

My new oshi

>>29969686
All the nations are currently absolutely gigantic, so typically some land is just taken from a nation where it would make sense to create the new one, like with /nenmen/ taking a chunk out of /nijien/ a few weeks ago.

>>29969686
>Also I remember a user suggesting that the map can't be altered geographically so how would new nations be created except by replacing older ones? Or is that exactly what happens?
We stop making everything huge. We could have enough space for 3x as many generals as right now if everything wasn't so ridiculously big.

>>29969536
>>29969741
how would goods of this deal be treated from /inf/ in regards to the trade alliance? besides us in the Retro Reich already having good and friendly deals with moriji and also wanting to ivnest in some nasfaq companies, this technicly would allow us to buy theri goods tariff free through you

Just give Nijimales to Subaru and petra to Mio.

>>29969900
Nah, I think its only right for Nijisanji to own Nasfaq, ahoy, and Bakatare. OBVIOUSLY!!!!

>>29969706
micomet was a different thread, wich i guess is also dead and /vsinger/ is its completly own thing.

>>29969900
none of those are active threads

>>29969686
Most nations are inactive, so their lore (and existence?) is in a state of flux. And yeah, no adding land since we already had anons do a ton of work for figuring out climate, currents, tectonics, etc. that other threads base their lore off of. So new nations either get retconned in since a lot of history is still undetermined or get added in much the same way as irl.

>>29969401
That's a good question! I'm thinking in the warmer south, it's mostly stone homes - remnants of the Great Winter - The richer familes, owner of industry and farmland, have bigger and fancier homes made from wood, flaunting that they have the wealth for better heating - again, a remnant of the Great Winter. The homes usually have round or dodecagonal windows with clock motifs.

Up in the north, nearly everything is stone or log cabins, with few decorations but flags or banners depicting a region's flag and a symbol of the faith. Some say the Great Winter hasn't ended in the north, so it reflects in the architecture. It's mostly military camps, mines, and prisons up there.

>>29970021
Hololive board, go back to /jp/

>>29969686
Nations are based on threads, so not every goddess in the oantheon necessarily has a nation full of worshippers. Their followers are just minorities in other countries.

>>29970118
Nijisanji WORLD.

>>29969869
>>29969883
That makes sense. Just making what's already big a bit smaller and so forth.
Makes it easier to think of a spot to put what used to be Hololive China or other dead branches

>>29970087
So if most generals are inactive, what constitutes the decision to absorb one into another? Is it based on a prolonged state of inactivity? I know /zomg/ has been gone for a month or so now

>>29970239
I am begging you to stop replying to the obvious schizo.

>>29970241
One thing to note would be that this is not necessarily about companies and chuubas themselves, but threads and their culture first and foremost. So unless holoCN had a stable general, it shouldn't get a spot on the map.

>>29970463
What I mean to say is referring to them in the past for the purposes of worldbuilding by utilizing extinct entities and filling in entries for lost countries
Since they're obviously no longer around

I'm aware the bing shillings never had a general

>>29970241
Reminder that Nijisanji, a company just as massive as Hololive, is reduced to one islans while Hololive controls 1/2 of the map. Vitubia is based on the threads of this board, which is a hololive board. CN was gone before this board existed

>>29970598
They do, its called /#/. They are called shu.

>>29970598
The point is that HoloCN isn't a lost country in-universe, it just never existed in the first place.

>>29970241
Mostly based on adding an active thread that makes sense in that spot. /okfams/ replaced /mion/ to stay near the relevant chuuba threads, /pagi/ took over /duck/ to be near /moon/, and /aa/ took /corpo/'s spot to be placed in the indie continent.

>>29970670
>shu
Doesn't Niji have an actual chuuba named that? You might want to pick a different name.

>>29970766
Shu means numbers in Chinese.

>>29970801
That's still going to be extremely confusing since we have an active rep for the nijien boys.

>>29970599
>>29970684
Alright then. I think I'm overthinking things like a dipshit
I'll just stick to generals that used to be represented on the map for the purpose of former entities then. It'd just be too complicated

Anyway, reposting this here yet again if anyone has an entry they want to add to it.

>>29970688
That makes sense

>>29970093
So do you have houses made from cob (a clay and grass material) or cordwood?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordwood_construction

It depends on how available clay is in your area. You might not have enough clay for building. But you can use your clay as a plaster or mortar instead.

>>29970801
>>29970766
>>29970670
This was me, shitting on numberfags in my story. We call them Shu. Thats not their real name!!!!!!! Why is their name in chinese, well its a bit underhanded dig at /#/ logic

>>29970835
Forgot the link like a fucking brainlet

https://rentry.org/4kf2s

>>29970886
That doesn't really change my point about that being extremely confusing in the long run.

>>29970856
I actually looked into masonry but I'm not knowledgeable enough in resources from the ground to really know. I do know we use stone bricks, but I based that off of Kronii's bunkeronii more than any realistic building material in the region. But in this case yes, we would use clay as a mortar!

>>29970943
Anon…. Its in a first person story. No one else will call them that in universe.

>>29969536
>>29969741
What a beautiful document... Some information on Moriji: Moriji is a highly decentralized confederation, municipalities are the governmental entities with the most executive power in the country. Thus, a deal of this type couldn't be fulfilled with the government of Moriji, who has more of a figurehead role.
However, the Black Fleet does have the capability to respect, enforce and fulfill the requirements of this agreement.
I.1.2 Slavery is abhorred as one of the worst of crimes in Moriji. Any kind of human trafficking near Moriji will result in the arrest of the perpetrator, and diplomatic consequences for the member state responsible for it.
I.3.1 The amount of land would need to be purchased by the Black Fleet from a Moriji municipality. This is perfectly doable and was done to allow the creation of Oppia, but the amount of land asked by this agreement should be kept to a minimum.

II.1.1 and II.2 are already the case in Moriji.
II.3 The Black Fleet doesn't have, nor desires the political power needed to enforce this. The municipalities have ability to regulate goods as they desire. Those regulations do tend to be minimal and country-of-origin agnostic, especially in the larger international harbors.

III This is already something the Black Fleet is doing.

IV and V, and all unmentioned items are agreeable.
If the other Founding Members agree to the Agreement after acknowledging those clarifications, Moriji is willing to join this Trade League.

>>29970943
Indians, Native Indians, the Negros, the Negritos, the Pygmy, the OTHER Pygmy... It's a time period of confusing naming conventions for races other than your own

>>29971008
So the Korean Pirates are in trouble…

>>29971190
Well... If those friendly Palkyries are up for some privateering, maybe something can be arranged...

>>29971261
They slave and raid too. They all hate meat though

>>29971298
They slave and raid pretty far from home, if we can get them to not slave and raid us, some compromises can probably be made. High-minded morals rarely survive geopolitics.

>>29970954
Alternatively you could use ash and lime mortar if you don't have much clay. Besides you could use clay to make grout for your iron/steel mills. There's also slag as a building material. Though I don't know if slag got much use in the early days.

>>29971008
>Slavery is abhorred as one of the worst of crimes in Moriji
Good thing prison labor isn't slavery, right? It's just corrective sentencing! Work sets you free! They always look forward to the next job, since it will shorten their sentence. That's fine!

Right?

this could potentially be ANOTHER reason relations are so strained between Infinitum and Moriji

>>29971395
So whats the problem with Tsushima in comparison?

KRrep
Just want to weigh in. Tsushima is the most powerful little island navy in KR solely because their prince is like admiral Yi and Nelson combined. He doesnt care if the whole black fleet goes against him, the cocky bastard will still think he can win (and will find a way to do as much damage as possible if nothing else.) Also made him a Mahjong God… eccentric man he is.

>>29965565
>>29965251
thank you both, i am better now that i have eaten dinner (pringles), i will now learn as much japanese grammar as i can for the next 3 hours

>>29971447
For sure! The saving grace here is that schizograd is a whole ocean away, so looking past it is politically possible, if it's closer to home it gets more complicated...

>>29969890
Aren't tarrifs a thing for incoming goods, not exports? And it's just very likely that Moriji and The Serene Republic would want profit as a middle man if they sold you anything from Infinitum, even if they're friends with you. It'd be easier and cheaper to just buy straight from kronies.

>>29971598
So he is sea pomerlane… nijifags i swear.

>>29971460
Oh, well the assumption here is that KRpirates pirate up all the traffic going through their bit of the sea. If you get pirates privateering for ya (like 2434 did with nijiKR, iirc), the hope is that they'll stop attacking your ships.

>>29965815
>I love that you ain't afraid to experiment and branch out with writing styles. Comes with being a bookworm I suppose :P
I was listening to bossa nova earlier!!!! Some of the songs were really good for descriptions and stuff!!!! You should really listen to Aguas de Marzo!!!!!
>Would love to go over them together, but I'm both phoneposting from work and tired as all hell, so I doubt my own ability to really explain myself right now.
Then rest and go to sleep!!!!!!!! Why are you here if you're tired!!?????

>>29971634
Jesus Lord, I love Mamaloni's work...
Ah, that's perfect then! Phew...

>>29970943
it is way more organic for certain places ot be referred by slurs by other places.

and the story of alcie makes it very clear what people the "shu" in question is

>>29971743
>2434
The Prince is more aligned with the KAG then 2434 properly (i am the writer not the op)

>>29971851
Also what will you offer him to entice him to stop with you? Thats my question.

>>29971655
tariffs, taxes ect, all the same to me

and i meant the other way aroudn as you said, unless moriji and nasfaq wants more indepth deals with the Retro Reich, /inf/ would jsut be cheaper unless they market up the price of goods

Why do nijireps make things so hard… now i have to put up with some guy who is a naval genius pirate lord. Fuck

>>29971957
You are violating our treaty by pursuing trade in nasfaq. As it was said, you stick to your sphere we stick to ours. Your sphere is all of Indeia. We get Neutral-Anykaria

>>29971917
Him? Who?

>>29971008
So then the Black Fleet would be the one signing the agreement? Could the black fleet work as an umbrella for the moriji municipalities and other moriji factions if they want to join the league too? Like how the Serene Republic government would be for the megacorporations.

As for I.1.2, It is acceptable but the rule would only apply near Moriji. The black fleet officials wont be executing peaceful human resources merchants who were just relaxing at the nasfaqg mahjong parlours, right? AFAIK, The Serene Republic does not enslave people, as that is illegal there, but there are no laws regarding moving slaves through the area, or having them. Darker aspects of extreme economic liberalism.

>>29972176
https://rentry.org/foxy9

>>29972112
yeah this is why i want to figure out how a deal between those 3 would affect us, i don't want to accidentally undermine it due to a deal they make

>>29972422
Just wanted to make sure… i didnt want this to turn into something stupid. Arranging it via morig works

>>29971957
Youd still be dealing with middlemen wouldnt you? This time it would just be /infinity/?

>>29972221
That's right, you'll be speaking with the Black Fleet's current Fleet Admiral, given the scope of this agreement. The Black Fleet could act as an umbrella as you say. The municipalities will negociate in their own name, but the Black Fleet could assist them in fulfilling aspects of the agreement related to naval security.
Also, indeed the Black Fleet respects the local laws of its friends. It's unsavory, but /kfp/ does move some pleasure slaves around, and this is considered an acceptable price for the alliance. The same will go for Black Fleet officials operating in /nasfaqg/ and /inf/.
>>29971789
man I know right

Alice
How much power would you be willing to give Prince Tsunehisa if he cooperated with you in the face of a potential multilayered threat.

>>29972503
yeah but the deal with /2434/ was made in good faith and even if its just one nation, /inf/ suddenly beign the cheaper option for /nasfaqg/, even if this technicly isn't our fault, could be seen as us loopholing or undermining our deal with /2434/ wich i do not want

i guess in lore i could that as a nation we simply do not take those offers to honor the deal

>>29972224
I thought he wasn't aligned with the Palkyries/vnug, since his culture is Anykarian. Did I misunderstand?

>>29972679
He better be good at smooth talking!!!! He is just a mere Wouko daimyo to the Imperial Navy. A useful toy. He needs to prove himself worthy of any honors. We like merit but the Western Fleet is traditionalist. Seniority is important and I cannot imagine an Imperial Admiral bending the knee to some Wokou prince even if he is a naval genius

>>29969741
>>29972522
Stellar! I have added small amendments to the deal according to the things we discussed and came to agree. Please review https://rentry.org/ATL_Founding_Agreement

Mamaloni, Love.

>>29971298
Wait, Palkyries don't actually enslave people, at least not from raids. The main drive for their raids was/is to secure resources to supplement what's lacking in their frigid homeland, so bringing more people back home would be counterproductive to that. They're probably quite open to people willingly joining them tho (as did pirates during the golden age of piracy)
They probably won't/can't reach far enough to actually bother /morig/ directly, and I think they'll be up for privateering, but I don't know how the other parts of /kr/ would interact with /morig/ (or who exactly will the Palkyries be pirating against)

>>29972937
Signed!

May this bring us three closer!

>>29972892
He isnt aligned with anyone but himself and his people on Tsushima. (An island that has a reputation of being a thorn in the side of all of the Golden Sea.) vnugbro can help, we all hate the cannibals as much as he does and if meat comes, we will fight them combinded. Here is my work on the island (incomplete) https://rentry.org/ahwvf

>>29973049
Yeah, dont know who said that. Wasnt me. We only slave for money, thats it.
KRrep

>>29972937
>Target Acquired

>>29972937
>>29973076
Stellar Stellar!
Signed. May we not regret this kek

>>29973316
Don't say it like that!

>>29973316
Our reaction to this deal.

Retrosenpai… would you like any closer ties in our trade?????

>>29973390
Alice? Hiiii
Link me the new work you were telling me about pleeease! I haven't caught up and I didn't notice it last thread...

>>29973168
/vnug/ probably goes a step further and doesn't engage in slavery at all. The closest it does to slavery would probably be ransoming important/valuable people that they happen to capture

>>29973316
>Laughs in Korean Pirate
Matey, you just sold yer sold for a ducat.

>>29973566
*cums in your hat*

>>29973537
I have the KAG done, the CIO done and a wild adventure. Which one???? I assume the latter https://rentry.org/TachibanaGo

>>29973613
She will be back this month with vengence.

>>29973475
New phone, who this?

>>29973755
Never should have banned Hada...

>>29973787
I blame Vei… she banned her on steam…

>>29973775
nevermind its alice right?

>>29973775
Alice-sama!!!!
>>29973865
YESS!!!!

Tourist's guide anon, added a few more to the guide, gonna stop writing for tonight. Still waiting for people to send short entries so I can fill stuff in. Separated the countries by continent as well

Either reply to this post or >>29970900 if you'd like to contribute to this guide please and thank you.

>>29973378
Ah, Deadbeats are natural pessimists, my good Kronie. Well, now that the paperwork is out of the way, where on Infinity would Moriji be able to lease some warehouse land?

>>29973915
anythign specific you had in mind?

>>29974122
I dont know… i feel like this agreement undermines both of us in a way because it combines 3 of our biggest competitors into one league…. We might want to consider something on those lines, leaving out the CIO naturally…

>>29974235
To clarify concerns about mechaffyna, she is just going to be a story force for the KAG looking for lost city of gold.

Also THEY WILL FIND THIS CITY OF GOLD. In /ringo/…. HAHAHA please do not get rid of /ringo/

>>29974461
Ok, this will be the greatest story on here. Always been a sucker for this adventure tale.

>>29974235
now this is not related to the trade agreement we have but a different thing but something i had on mind for a bit is the following:

/2434/ strives to invent a lot to make advancements, this would naturally coem with lots of failures or projects that are simply stuck, if /2434/ would be willing to share these informations with the Retro Reich then we could have our workshops also work on these things and any application we find for failed projects or breakthroughs we make in the stuck ones we would in return share with you.

less of a trade agreement and more of a joined research agreement i guess

>>29974708
Now that is workable. I will agree to this now because we see no problems with this. (Ive thought other deal over and its fine for now anyways. Too much to think over to care about trade rights in inactive nations. !!!)

>>29971786
Sweetie, reading reps. I'm phoneposting from work, I would rest if I could... But I'll obey and go to sleep when I get home, gonna sleep the entire day most likely.

I'm home you sluts. What happened in my absence, anything noticeable? I'm reading up the last thread and this one right now.

>>29975141
You missed my story!!!!! https://rentry.org/TachibanaGo

>>29960617 https://rentry.org/TachibanaGo
Archivesenpai, under stories for 2434

Looks like tonight was a disaster for me putting aside time to write. I have to leave early in the morning for mom's appointment in one town. Then refuel. Then leave for an another appointment in a town in the exact opposite direction. Which means 6 hours of driving tomorrow.

Since my mobile network is banned because it shares IP addresses with Mexican Pepe I can't phonepost. FML

>>29975686
Sorry nasasenpai…..prayers for you!!!

>>29975676
I had it under Stories(individual) since it involves multiple countries. Does that work for you?

sending war canoes to fight a ship filled with guns. Pic related

>>29975968
Oh i didnt know!!! Thats fine!!!

>>29975862
It just means I have to wait until Friday to do anything.

>>29974017
Sorry for the late reply! Doubly sorry for the phoneposting!
These three ports will be open to Moriji - the government is currently only opening these three to you, so as to appease our more... scrutinizing members of the senate. Though the isolationist party is willing to concede and promise to allow more to open up more in the future should Moriji prove trustworthy - not that we don't trust you! It's just, well, you know how the old fashioned folk are...

Ahem, as for those three ports:
>red arrow
Saint Kronii, the main commercial port city. It's the only one open to everyone right now, but only Nasfaqg and Moriji will be allowed to build their own warehouses. Everyone else rents storage space from us.
>white arrow
Boros Harbor, a strategic port used mostly for internal transport of goods up the river. Most imports at Saint Kronii are brought to the main island here - having warehouses and the right to trade here will make it easier to trade directly with kronies.
>black arrow
Dockeronii East, one of two twin port cities that ship up the rivers leading directly into farmland. Having your ships and warehouses here will give deadbeats the easiest access to perishable goods from Infinitum. It's also the spot easiest to get to from the south, where Moriji ships are most likely to sail in from.

>>29977082
I'm. Dumb.

Forgot to mention: these names are NOT placeholders, this is literally our naming convention. Fanbase reflects the streamer -- I mean, worshippers reflect the goddess.

>>29977082
would the members of the trade allaicne also be allowed to anchor the other 2 ports?

>>29975046
Sorry I'm still sleepy!!! But go home and rest when you can!!! It's great!!!!

>>29973675
Gave it a read and enjoyed myself. Looking forward to more! Hans best boy

>>29977378
Nasfaqg, yes! Forgot to mention our allies, the KFP, Risuners, and Merakyats ;__; have access to those other two ports.

>>29977409
He is my fav, aside from the number patriarch. I couldnt put words to his emotion about ze Numberfags unfortunately. But imagine a german being exasperated. THANKS YOU!!!

>>29977562
You're welcome! I wish I had the will to write more often.

>>29977650
My advice. Have fun!!! Writing about numbers was making me giggle while writing it. Not everything needs to be super serious like PPsenpai does.

>>29977522
no i meant the OG trade alliance, wich i guess needs a new name now that others exist

>>29977775
which ones? i thought kronies only traded individually before this deal
>"""isolationist""" btw

If only we didn't need 21st century tech. I found lots of uses of iron slag from roads, to cements, to fertilizer. In the bronze age copper slag was used to create green glass and also to glaze pottery. Slag can also be used to create agate glass which was made as early as 1890s to create art pieces. Though I don't know if making slag glass is easily viable with 1750s tools. That said remelted copper slag was made for jewelry in antiquity. It might be possible to make slag glass.

>>29978000
The one centered in /risu/ between /risu/, /meat/, /inf/ and /vrt/

>>29977082
>>29977190
Ah, perfect, this lays it out very well. The Black Fleet will invest in a warehouse near Dockeronii East, make the trips as short as possible. Included in the warehouse would be an office which would be the best place for Kronies to contact the Black Fleet directly, and a messenger bird tower. Would it be possible to lease enough land to build a modest shipyard there?
Also, I'm currently working on a map to let you make the same decision for /morig/.

>>29977775
>>29978070
I was going to say yes, but then I do NOT remember agreeing to /vrt/, did this happen when I was gone for a few months? Or am I too sleep deprived? I remember /meat/ and Risu for sure, though.
>>29978266
Excellent! And yes, you may. Considering the defense clause, we fully expect you guys to want to have a shipyard, checkpoints, and patrolling guards of your own, as well as living space for soldiers. And Infinitum hopes to do the same in Moriji!

>>29978052 (me)
FYI I'm doing research in older building materials trying to see what's been used for what. Slag glass turned out to be a pretty interesting as an art piece medium. Could be popular to make in iron-rich nations. I figure some autism in researching building materials might be useful. I'll try not to spam threads.

>>29978478
it was agreed upon with a kronii but its been a while so might have been a different one, he certainly had no trip.

the gagreement basicly was:

/vrt/ get to set up a port office with all the stuff we need in demeter, /meat/ gets to do the same in ceres, we all trade mainly in /risu/ and /risu/ gets to buy stuff from us too, we are tarifffree to each other, /vrt/ also gets to anchor on the /inf/ island for trade and rest, also gets access to kronii milk and clockwork

>>29978600
>>29978052
This is some interesting stuff. Not sure how usable it is in Vitubia, given the time period. Even Infinitum would find practical applications just out of reach of their technology

Hello. If the Melisende author is around, just wanted to let you know I'm finally getting around to writing that feedback I promised I'd give you...an entire month ago, holy fuck. This is going to take a bit since your story is long as hell, but while I go write up the critique on your actual writing, I just thought I'd let you know you have a formatting issue. Dialogue that is part of a sentence should be treated as…well, part of the sentence. It should be separated from the dialogue tag with a comma, not a period. Example:
>"The higher-ups told us off. Said they had it dealt with." He mumbled
should actually be
>”The higher-ups told us off. Said they had it dealt with,” he mumbled
Even when the dialogue ends in a question or exclamation mark, the dialogue tag that follows should still be in lower case, unless it’s a proper noun and would’ve been capitalized anyway.
>"Won't be constabulary be after the case?" She asked
should be
>"Won't be constabulary be after the case?" she asked
This was really distracting, since it interrupts the flow of the text. The piece otherwise being quite well-formatted made it stand out a lot too. You also have a lot of typos, tense switching from past to present and weird grammar mistakes littered around which, again, stand out more in your work than they would in a less well-written piece. Make sure you proofread these before posting. But if you already do then eh, whatever, it happens. Lord knows my posts sometimes look like they’re written in code, with the amount of typos that wind up in them. Anyways, off I go to write that review.

Also if anyone needed me for anything feel free to give me a shout, I have not done my thread reps.

>>29978921
No. I never agreed to this. Tarrif free trade is only for Friendly level nations, and I don't have much interaction with the /vrt/ rep to warrant that. /vrt/ can anchor with all the other nations in Saint Kronii, and their goods will be subject to tarrifs. If they want special treatment like the Hololive / Alivian Trade Alliance they can ask me directly. But clockwork is reserved for military allies.

I'm not a fan of retconning things but that should definitely be retconned to at least leave Infinitum out of it. I'm sure Risuners would still hold the trade authority in Demeter to give you guys special treatment on their land without Kronies say in the matter anyway.

>>29979188
Hi comfyanon. I hope you've been well.

>>29979324
>>29960617
Anchoring for attention.

>>29979324
well that fucks up a story of mine a bit...

but if you want to be retconned out, ok

>>29979440
Hello, hello. I've been well, still pretty preoccupied with IRL but things are going better than they have been, recently, so can't complain much. I did not actually get around to finalizing /nenmen/'s resources so I have no updates for you on formal trade agreements, sorry! I kept getting sidetracked with researching architecture when researching trees and minerals...

>>29979642
Very sorry about that. But I never agreed to that, so I'd like out before anything else.

But don't fret yet. I'd be willing to hear the details from /vrt/, /meat/, and Risu myself. Maybe I'd actually agree to it. I just need the details first.

And *no* clockwork for anyone but military allies.

Word cloud for last thread.

>>29979818
I'm glad things are getting better. I hope it stays getting better! And don't worry about the resources, I'm happy to wait. Do let me know if you need anything, by the way - the offer to help build ports still stands.

>>29978936
You would use a different material for glass works since making slag sand is a pain in the ass pre-20th century. Speaking of glass there's a ton of metalurgy and chemistry that goes into making stained glass. Stained glass is mostly used in churches, temples, and other places of worship. Its too late but it could be interesting for a Sanalite to make stained glass that looks like the night sky. Or in Candy Kingdom there's a stained glass mural of Luna-hime in the main chamber.

>>29980424
Infinitum - or Infinitopia, at the time - probably made many stained glass windows in their massive cathedrals built during the Great Winter!

>>29979854
BITCH YOU ARE TALKING WITH RETRO ANON THIS WHOLE TIME

and while this might not have been an agreement that was made with you personally at the time, you also were not in the thread at the time and the other kronii was the only one still around.

I have also since mentioned this trade alliance SEVERAL TIMES while you have sicne returned so if you keep ignoring everythign i say then thats not on me, you had plenty of chances to say something before or ask for clarification.

>>29980797
Sorry about that, then. I have been working so I don't always do my archive reps anymore. Yeah, just write us out in that case. Sorry about that.

>>29978600
Oh, anon, if you're researching building materials anyway, would you happen to know how various cultures dealt with monsoon weather? I'm familiar with the kinds of adjustments Japan made with engawa and especially deep eaves, but my knowledge of architecture is otherwise somewhat limited and I've been having a hard time finding sources that talk about how this stuff was handled historically, rather than in modern times.

>>29979854
>>29980797
Ah... I feel an opportunity to diffuse the situation somewhat.
Kronie, here is a post detailing the terms of this trade alliance:
>>/vt/thread/S29454267#p29458455
This agreement has already affected international events a fair bit, so I would suggest that instead of pulling out of it entirely, you simply retcon the offending aspects of it, mainly the trade of clockwork, and perhaps the bit about the tariffs. The rest of the agreement doesn't seem too offensive, to my eye. This previous Kronii might have value the national security aspect of clockwork less than you.

>>29981441
If the /vrt/ rep will let me, I'd like to give it thought. I'll get back to this tomorrow if he does. If Infinitum's involvement isn't so important as to keep him waiting, then I can't do anything.

Thank you for sharing, though! That clears up my confusion.

>>29981441
previous Kronie*
>>29981758
Also, here is the settlement map for Moriji. Kronie, I would suggest either Gehenna or Acheron be the location of the Kronie installations. Acheron is one of the most active harbors, so you would be close to the beating heart of trade through the Holosea there, especially the traffic headed towards the Niji continent and thus, Infinitum. However, this harbor being so busy means that coastal land comes at a huge premium. If you'd like to build your own docks and shipbuilding facilities, I would suggest instead to get that going at Gehenna. It's less densely populated, so you'll be able to build big there. Also, it's close to lots of stones quarries and mines, which assists construction further.
There is also the possibility of building a shipyard in Gehenna and a smaller warehouse in Acheron.

>>29982084
That is a damn good map, nice.
Ahem. Thank you! With all that in mind, I think I'll spring for the suggested shipyard in Gehenna, with barracks and defenses, and a smaller warehouse in Acheron with a smaller attachment of guards. And hopefully we could have offices for Kronie officials in both. What do you think?

>>29981118
I'll have to find history of cultures in monsoon weather first. The first place that comes to mind is Florida. Waterproof logs mortared with "plastic" plasters like lime and clay seem like a good start. Limestone is also resiliant to weathering. I talked to Chumbuddy tourist about building houses with limestone so coral can grow on it. Monsoon and tropical plant leaves and reeds are also water retardant. So building grass/leaf roofs that don't get blown away is also an option. Otherwise clay will be your best friend. Clay should be abundant in wet monsoons.

>>29983015
My nation has way too much limestone so I was likely going to make that the main building material anyway. Thank you anon, even just this much is helpful!

>>29982518
thank you, I've been consumed by a map making demon, this is my fourth this week, this shit is like heroin. It's taking all of my willpower to not start working on a detailed resource map and instead do something that actually matters.
Yes, this will do nicely! You should know, all coastal installations with military capabilities are required to participate in the defense of the towns when schizo raids occurs. This is, er, a relatively common occurrence, especially in medium sized cities like Gehenna. Your boys won't get too rusty. There's also a non-zero chance for a /meat/ raid, though they're getting rarer these days. This might cause a conflict of interest...

>>29983846
how did that skull fit through the glass' rim?

>>29983015 (me)
Disregard Florida. India, Brazil and the American Midwest seem like good places to start. There's also Taiwan and Vietnam as well. It seems the popular building material are waterproof woods, clay, and plaster. Ceramics are waterproof. And so is dried plaster. As for wood you really want to keep the bark on logs for the exterior. For exposed planks you will need wood-stain made from wax or oil to keep them waterproof. Paint is an option but oil wood stains are much cheaper.

>>29984044
The glassblower actually blew that glass around the skull, it was a lot of work.

>>29977396
I know I promised I'll get some rest, but I just got home and had an amazing breakfast, so I'm full of energy again. I'll edit your story and put my comments in it and bounce it off to you, just gimme like an hour or so.

>>29982084
i'm going to be honest, i'm having a major anthropologist moment over detailed moriji maps, what goes further than "damn that's a detailed map". god i fucking love map autism, something about how it captures the scale of an earth-sized worldbuilding project is so captivating to me, it's so vast and i could write an entire slice of life story about teens lounging around in some fuck off village within the same country as another story that's basically a film noir and they wouldn't touch, and that's in just one country. the differences between cities in america could exist in moriji, i'm talking cuisine, accents, what kind of labor, folktales, even sports rivalries, and how it all relates to their geographical location. do they eat a lot of fish? meat? rice? what grains grow best in that climate? what kind of fruit? what kind of animals live there? how would their meat taste? what does their art look like? architecture, traditional craftsmanship, fashion, interior design? how does it relate to the biome they live in? i could work on a single country in a world like this for years and never be bored

>>29983567
Limestone is fine as a material unless you get acid rain. Chalk is pretty resistant to natural erosion. Linestone's weakness is that it dissolves in acid. At the same time where there's limestone there's clay. So you can use fired clay bricks in structures like wells. Also its better to make chimneys out of cob or bricks instead of limestone.

>>29984895
Ngl, I got a boner reading this. Finally someone who shares my brand of autism! It's all so wonderful and exciting isn't it?! The minute differences not only between cities in different regions, but even parts of the same city that make them so very very unique! Ooohhh I love that shit!!

>>29984895
God my brother you fucking get it, you fucking do. Maps have this way of just making you imagine what locations are like when you look at them, what is this place like? What about that one? Why are they the way they are? And the maps tell you all sorts of answers to this question, and then your imagination goes wild filling in the gaps... I definitely want to make at least a resource map, a road map, and a cultural map as well.

>>29984137
hey deadbeat, got the contract done just now. Had a migraine so was delayed a bit, once you've perused it and are happy I'll archive it.

https://rentry.org/VMS-morig-contract

>>29960617
Also archiveanon for the sake of not having an obnoxiously big vms section under agreements I made a library https://rentry.org/vms-library, I'll keep this updated if you wanna remove all the agreement links and replace them with this. Thanks!

>>29984120
>>29984959
I see. Thanks again!

>>29985453
Damn, you can write a damn good contract, this is incredibly immersive. Perused, satisfied, and signed, it's good to go! Looking forward to working with you.

>>29986387
Appreciate the kind words, I've got a lot of other countries studies to complete/do a basic outline of, but I am excited to do Moriji because of how much detail your map has. If you have any specific requests of the magical properties of any fungi within your region (usually based on the qualities of your chuubanite) I'm happy to fit those in when I do the report.

I wonder if Mt. Mori has tuff buildings and statues. Tuff is a very interesting and easy to carve soft rock that's got a unique texture because its made from volcanic ash. Though it depends on Mt. Mori's formation.

>>29960617
Anchor this under /morig/ https://rentry.org/morig-foreign-agreements
>>29986915
Ah, I guess a QRD on the effects of our chuubanite would be in order. It has an affinity for minerals, especially those containing carbon or metals. When interacting with lifeforms, it tends to twist their physiological to become harder, for example crustacean shells and animal bones in Moriji tend to synthesize iron-based goetithe in their structure, resulting in tougher and harder materials. If you like, need something to fall asleep to, here is an article recording the physiological effects the chuubanite can have on animals, and likely on fungus as well https://rentry.org/puuqw#biological-anthropology-of-the-deadbeat
As for odd mycological witness accounts, I can think of a few prompts, some high altitude wetlands seem to host corpses that are able to move for days and weeks after the death of the being, possibly related to the /meat/ zombie fungus. In the cold Underworld catacombs, there is this bone-eating lichen that seem to accelerate the process of recycling the chuubanite contained within into the environment. And in the mangroves, there's those mushrooms that grow on steel-shelled crabs, nice bit of symbiosis.
All these are just ideas I had knocking around, feel free to just do your own thing, when you get to it!

>>29987072
Yes, there is indeed tuff in the region around Mont Mori. As with everything related to the Underworld, only the Goddess Faithful has access to this resource, statues found in shrines or in the Underworld catacombs are often made with tuff.
Nice brainwave, gonna add that to our resources.

>>29988293
I think sometimes tuff can be found on the surface, but its mostly found in extinct volcanoes. Anyway I should sleep.

>>29985393
i've actually had dreams about scrolling through a google earth-type program of this world while i lived in it, in like the technological mid 2010s, it was a mix of exciting and nostalgic, i've always loved looking at google earth and knowing any house i come across could've sheltered someone's childhood, or their entire life, a treasure trove of memories. it's probably why your map has my imagination so active, because of just how big one country can be. and what i said was only half of it, there's military, games, what kinds of sports for rivalries to develop, what kind of stereotypes and shit talk do they have? are they like boston and new york? minneapolis and chicago? it's what gives me the unending drive and enjoyment for creating languages, even if it answers a sliver of these questions, if it's as realistic as i can make it, then it's good enough for a world like this
>>29985369
right? it's always been the little things
anyways i'm going to bed

>>29989191
Good night nasarep.
>>29989253
Ah, that's the essence of worldbuilding right there... Good night to you as well conlanganon, stay based.

Sometimes I wish my cold dead heart can still feel the same passion in worldbuilding

>>29990566
Cold dead heart? Are you a deadbeat?

>>29991390
My oshi's someone else, but yes, funnily enough

>>29991448
Kek, cold dead hearts is a common characteristic in /morig/...

Hello.
I had a nap.
Give me a quick rundown of the last few hours.

>>29992120
/morig/, /inf/ and /nasfaqg/ are doing some gay shit, and /2434/ was kinda panicking, it was cute.

>>29992218
>/morig/, /inf/ and /nasfaqg/ are doing some gay shit
You must be the first /vtwbg/ anon to get laid then

>>29992762
Not the first one, Risuner definitely fucks his cousin. Probably in the top 5 though.

>>29992833
>>29992762
Does living with your sexually frustrated sister counts?

>>29992833
From Risuner's posts I'm not surprised. If there's 5 anons getting laid here that's gotta be a thread record for /vt/.
>>29993019
I really hope that doesn't count... But that's just me being jealous I guess.

>>29993331
Bah, sex is for total chumps. Only an absolute fool would engage in such trivial carnal desires. Which is frankly why I have a depressingly high amount of it.

>>29993019
Bro...

>>29993450
Honestly the nymphomaniacs I know are some of the most psychologically wrecked menheras I know, so you might be onto something. Find a balance in all things.
>>29993331
/vtwbg/ being filled with the most socially functional anons on the board checks out to me desu.

>>29994011
>most socially functional anons on the board
and then there's me and a few other anons who exist as the exception to that.

>>29994011
I hope I’m not perceived as menhera, but psychologically wrecked is a fair statement. Despite how I sometimes act, I try my best to come off as formal and polite.

>>29994094
Well... Every dish needs its spice.
>>29994336
Oh, by /vt/ standards you're a paragon of stability, don't worry about it rosebud, on top of being fun to have around. I was just musing about some IRL acquaintances.

>>27735681
>>29979188
ALRIGHT, here’s the actual feedback, as promised. Sorry again for the wait.

First, I just want to say your writing is overall excellent. You have a strong grasp of narrative pacing, and you understand how to set a scene without letting the descriptions overstay their welcome. That being said, precisely because you already have a good grasp of the basics, this review is going to be significantly more in-depth (and thus nit-picky) than the reviews I’ve written for other anons. I hope you won’t be too bothered by the length. Moving on.

You correctly identified characterization as your weakest point. It seems you have a habit of allowing your voice, as the author, to overwhelm the voices of your characters. By this, I’m not referring to the literal way they speak. It’s important to note that a character’s “voice,” in writing, is not determined by their dialogue alone. Their thoughts, actions, behavioral tics – these all serve to inform the reader of a character’s personality. So when I say you allow your voice to overwhelm the characters, I mean you’re allowing your own interests to leak in and overwhelm your characters’ behavior. It’s a problem exacerbated by your tendency to use dialogue purely as a narrative device, characters rarely speaking up unless it’s to directly advance the plot, and speeding through the resulting conversations.

Melisende vividly describes her thoughts during the scene where she’s punching Akira – her apprehension prior to the action, the feel of sinking her fist into Akira’s stomach, the strange and disturbing, somewhat uncomfortable feelings that arise from it – yet their subsequent conversation in the next scene passes by with none of the same insights into her thoughts. It’s a simple A to B sequence of events, described in pretty but nonetheless uninformative prose. Melisende has quite suddenly gone from a living person to an AI running on the default detective module. Might I make the bold assumption that this is, perhaps, your own interest in the beating scene showing through in the much higher level of attention to detail? You would do well to do a little more showing rather than telling in the rest of your writing. Take, for example, the following excerpt:

>Just like before, the lean hand reached for it and delivered it onto the dripping tongue. The relative lack of blood on it, though, did not seem to appetise the abbess.

Simply informing the reader that the lack of blood did not appetise the abbess is a massively wasted opportunity. It is better to describe the abbess’s reaction, giving the reader a glimpse of both the abbess’s personality and, due to the POV, Melisende’s own. There are many ways to express disgust or distaste, but how did the abbess do it in this moment? I get the impression the abbess is meant to appear deceptively childish and playful, given her speech patterns – specifically her sing-song way of speaking, indicated by frequent tildes, and her habit of referring to herself in third person. A character like this might express her distaste in a suitably childish manner, like so:

>Just like before, the lean hand reached for it and delivered it onto the dripping tongue. But shortly after, the abbess’s nose scrunched up as she spat the emblem back out, letting it drop onto her open palm. “Bleh,” she complained, swiping at her tongue with the back of her other hand. It seemed the relative lack of blood did not appetise the abbess.

(cont in next post, I passed the character limit...)

>>29994924
Now, I said earlier this was also a wasted opportunity to show off Melisende’s personality. Why is that? Before we even take a proper look at Melisende’s response, let’s look at your word choices in describing the abbess’s actions.

>The relative lack of blood on it, though, did not seem to appetise the abbess.

This is a really bland statement. When writing in limited third person, ideally, you should allow the POV character’s thoughts and feelings to color the text. How does Melisende feel about Akira at this point in the story? I couldn’t rightfully tell you, because the only action she’s taken so far that would tell us one way or another is her distrust of the tea Akira poured her earlier on, which is really just common sense caution, given the circumstances. But from Melisende’s next line of dialogue, where she cracks a small joke, perhaps we can assume she’s at least somewhat entertained by the current turn of events. So, let us edit the last line to show it, like so:

>Just like before, the lean hand reached for it and delivered it onto the dripping tongue. But shortly after, the abbess’s nose scrunched up cutely as she spat the emblem back out, letting it drop onto her open palm. “Bleh,” she complained, swiping at her tongue with the back of her other hand. Amusingly, it seemed the relative lack of blood did not appetise the abbess.

See how much more character this one action now has, compared to the original excerpt. Now let us go ahead and move on to Melisende’s actual dialogue in this scene:

>"Not a fan of it, Akira?" The detective asked half-jokingly. Maybe it was the lack of iron in its taste. Unfortunately for Akira, the blonde had no plan to turn out her bloody pockets. "I found it in the deadbeat's hand. It doesn't look like something from their island, so maybe it belonged to the killer."

This is what I mean when I say your dialogue is used purely as a narrative device. Melisende makes a single, off-hand one liner and then, with no response whatsoever from Akira, it’s immediately back to the business of advancing the plot. I’m not saying you should linger on a conversation for multiple paragraphs, but turning these kinds of conversations into…well, actual conversations – with some manner of exchange between the characters – will go a long way to giving your characters more personality. You could easily insert a small reaction from Akira without bogging down the pacing much, like so:

>>"Not a fan of it, Akira?" The detective asked half-jokingly. In response, Akira shook her head vehemently, puffing out one cheek in a childish pout. Maybe it was the lack of iron in its taste. Unfortunately for Akira, the blonde had no plan to turn out her bloody pockets.

These kinds of little exchanges do very little for the narrative, but they serve to better frame your characters, giving them a bit of life. I’m going to stop here instead of breaking down the entire rest of the story because I haven’t even covered half the story at this point and this review is already reaching ridiculous lengths. I’ve covered the important points, anyway, and I hope this has offered you a bit of insight on how to make your characters feel a little more distinct.

Tl;dr you tend to place a massive focus on stuff “happening,” skipping over the smaller, introspective details necessary to properly demonstrate a character’s personality.

>>29994924
I'm not the melisende anon, but your reviews are always goldmines of writing tips and insights. Thanks for doing them!

>>29995188
You're welcome, anon! I know I tend to start rambling when it comes to topics like this, so I often worry my reviews are somewhat incomprehensible. It's good to hear someone finds them useful!

>>29995548
Kek, maybe we need a superlitanon to come do reviews of your writing reviews. As far as I'm concerned they're perfectly understandable though!

>>29995639
We could ask for /wg/'s help.
But so far we only have one /wg/ anon.

>>29995548
Do you have plans to write an actual story any time soon? Every time you write one of these reviews I get more curious about your own writing.

>>29979188
>>29994924
>>29994963
Thank you for the feedback!

Sorry for asking you to go through my writing given how long-winded it often ends up being, especially in light of the formatting and grammatical issues I have that's mostly my ESL leaking, as a lot of those errors aren't a thing in my native language. I hope it isn't too big a burden. I did try my best to proofread my writing before committing, but I guess these things have a habit of slipping past spellcheckers.

It's nice to know that I at least have enough self-awareness to see my weakness, and your pointers and examples on how to mitigate the issue will be immensely helpful! You're also right in your observations, both in my habit of having things happen mostly for moving the plot from point A to point B (I think I even mentioned that when I talked about how I write my story back then), and that the more... colourful moments are often when I'm indulging in what's happening in the story myself (which is why those tend to be /meat/-oriented moments, I suppose). I'll keep that in mind as best as I can.

I'll probably go through my writing to correct some of the more obvious mistakes when I can, which will hopefully make the experience less gruelling for you and other potential readers. I might not be able to rewrite the more structural issues concerning characterisation and the occasional plot holes, but I'll remember to keep those in mind when I write in the future.

Once again, thank you for your feedback and suggestions. You're more articulate than I am, so don't worry too much about the length. If all else fails (especially given how the spam detection on this board is performing recently), you can always use rentry for posting.

>>29996207
We don't get a ton of in-depth reviews like this either, honestly.

>>29996405
I got one when I posted my other writing in /wg/. The feedback is harsh, but not unfair.

>>29996483
What'd you write?

>>29996538
Smut, but it's pretty crap so I would rather not specify which

>>29996571
Fair enough.

>>29996571
>smut
I can see why

>>29996338
OGsuner is bullying Saplings again

>>29997396
That ain't even me. I want to comfort the saplings but anons thought I wanted to rape them now there are like 2-3 risuners that want to terrorize the poor things

>>29995639
Writing reviews for writing reviews... We would reach levels of litautism I never thought possible...

>>29996315
I really, really want to write a story about picrel (though it would obviously have to be non-canon, since I can't exactly turn my entire nation into a post-apocalyptic wasteland), but I can't let myself run off to write stories before I finish at least one lore doc, or I just know I'll never finish any lore docs at all... I should really get the Holy Kingdom done, at aleast, so the three Kindred don't keep having to wait around for me to respond when they write.

>>29996381
>spoiler
Yeah, I kind of figured. But I also figured anyone directly giving me a (you) to ask for feedback would probably rather know if it was bad enough to be distracting. It's good to hear the tips were helpful, and I look forward to seeing your future work!

>>29997468
What have you done

the damage is done
Risuners are now hunting Saplings

>>29997642
please anderstan, some very dumb squirrels mistook the crying little seedlings as nutting nuts and took them home. don't blame all risuners for the dumb risuners. to be desu, seeds are pretty nutty, if you think about it, so it's an anderstanable offense. sanalites eat squirrels, so it all balances out in the end.

>>29997862
Ahh... the cycle of life sure is majestic, isn't it?

It's hilarious to see OGsuner creating a new dynamic by accident. His constant hornyposting has now become a board culture.
Sasuga.

I'm going to have to incorporate this in the sapling lore I had planned where I LEGITIMATELY WANTED TO HELP SAPLINGS AND BE NICE TO THEM but there is going to be a few squeebers who take it too far.

>>29998097
kek. My thread's local schizo is a risuner, so they're all convinced that he's the one doing this instead of you. I swear to god. you better not be him.

>>29998173
No it's not me. What thread btw? It's ok if you don't wanna answer though I only go here, risu thread, and hornypost wherever I see saplings.

How do you guys make such good flags and maps????? I want to try making some to expand my lore!!!!!!

>>29998218
/wg/

>>29997476
comfydants and mystakes sound based, but why is it that everyone seems to treat this as cute, funny, and wholesome when they do it, yet people act like they are witnessing a warcrime in progress when /meat/ just suggests having a few friends over for dinner? it's not like you'll be the one on the menu every time. sometimes it'll be someone else

>>29998239
Autism. The other nijireps like Alice and Panon have done several at this point, so I'm sure they'd be willing to help you out once they wake up. Did you have an idea in mind? Usually you'll just want a simple pattern in the background with some kind of emblem in the center.

>>29998443
It's because they're femanons, let's be honest.

>>29997476
True, I do prefer honest feedback even if it can be harsh, and yours is quite gentle while also being helpful! I guess my brain just isn't wired in English to know the way I wrote is both wrong and distracting.

Mornin' fellas! Is go time!
>>29961481
Yo what the fuck?! Who is you?! You dare impersonate me of all people!

>>29998748
It's ok founderkun we'll pretend we didn't say anything, we all have our proclivities.

>hehe

>>29998748
You know, they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

>>29998687
we have a few femanons, and i'm convinced that at least some of them are femanons(male)
>>29998748
good morning founderkun! <3 also, while i don't condone that guy impersonating you, you did write a fanfic of getting your dick cut, it was pretty good desu so even if you weren't the one who said it, we all know you were thinking it at one point two, in fact. hell, you're probably thinking about it right now

>>29998611
Hmmm I have some in mind but I would rather experiment with some of them if there was a software!!!! But I'll wait for them to wake up!!!!

>>29998443
This anon >>29998703 is correct, but probably not in the way he thinks. Over in /nijien/, whenever Mystakes start writing ryona fic or Comfydants start posting amputee/guro art, the maleanons start losing their minds, like it's the worst thing they've ever seen. They don't even react this strongly to the actual gore photos the goreschizo regularly posts. Meanwhile, over in /nenmen/, those kinds of posts are usually just met with other anons joining in with their own fantasies. It's amusing, since often these conversations are going on alongside some other fanbase's conversations about fluffy domestic bliss with their oshi. My conclusion is that straight maleanons are weak.

>>29998936
Tagged the wrong post lol, meant to say this anon >>29998687

Holy shit so close to 30mil post

>>29998879
Well... I do enjoy caning my dick with a metal ruler once a while

>>29999024
Cross your fingers our general gets it!

>>29999116
Inb4 it's SEX WITH SQUIRRELS

>>29999085
I'd question it but this thread is squirrel sex, /meat/ and smut so that's pretty normal all things considered

>>29998936
>ryona fic
Share the goods. We don't have many male chuubas over in /meat/

>>29999085
Founder really is a /meat/head

>>29999281
Is there any part of this thread that hasn't been touched by /meat/ at this point?

>>29999085
wtf bros I thought shotas were supposed to be submissive femboys?

>>29999320
The Nijis
PPanon, Alice, Dragoon. They are their own sphere

>>29999269
Sure. Here you go, from our fic archive: https://rentry.org/sisc7

And here's one where the reader is the victim instead, since I remember one of you preferring that: https://rentry.org/qyvi3

>>29999385
I'm not convinced rosemaiden isn't /meat/ tbdesu.

>>29998936
straight, male /nijien/anons are weak. with that said, i wonder how much of /meat/ is straight.
>>29999085
ever tried piercing it with needles, or burning it with boiling water, or crushing/cutting the circulation of it until it's purple, black, and blue? maybe a bit of self-harapan? ever tried stuff like knife-play, or asphyxia-play or tried using that stuff that was made famous with that one home alone scene, but for other parts of your body? they are pretty hot, ngl. at least when you know how to do it safely.

>/meat/hornyposting
this wont end well

>>29999384
I didn't know femanons were BASED

>>29999828
>/meat/hornyposting
when a group is comprised of individuals who find guro and cannibalism sexual I think all their posts are hornyposting

>>29999892
uoooohhh!! cute!

>>29998016
OGsuner is kinda based, nanora

pls be >>30000000

>>29999930
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOH4AwC7Gy1hRrEEgNjh69w
mushroom chuuba for me because mycology, courtesy of /meat/ bro's recommendation

>>30000058
sad
how about
>>29999999

>>30000058
Not us, but still a message I can approve

you would have expected more activity now that the thread has been past bump limit, but it seems the whole board is a bit slower right now. strange.

>>30001105
Past bump limit? Time for hornyposting

>>30001182
too late. everyone is sleeping it seems.

>>30001431
Damn... sucks being UTC+10, always at work or asleep when it's busy here.

>>29999724
>i wonder how much of /meat/ is straight
I'm into girls. Also I really don't like self-proclaimed femboys and trans.
to me, once they've done that, they have relinquished their human rights and have become nothing more than living onaholes and guro meat. Only deserve to be treated like the slaves in JM's body horror books
>they are pretty hot, ngl. at least when you know how to do it safely
True. but Im not brave enough to do those all by myself.
plus I prefer to be the one doing it on someone else heh

>>29982084
where di dyou create that population density map? It looks great

>>30001846
>pic rel
i've seen the full pic. looks like it would be excruciating. i like it.
>spoiler
damn it, now you've gone and made me consider being attracted to femboys and trannies. fuck you.
>plus I prefer to be the one doing it on someone else heh
i consider myself a sadomasochist, i enjoy both, but i enjoy either more from the context of the other. i want to be able to imagine how the other person is suffering while also feeling like i'm in complete control of the extent of their suffering, so i sometimes make myself suffer to imagine what the other person would feel in the situation i put myself through. it makes it better if you have the right mindset, and if you are into it, of course.

>>30001846
Founderkun is scary

bakersan?

>>30002346
Got chu, dough's in the oven

>>30002383
it already smells wonderful~