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>>29952307So aside from debut buffed Myth and Haachama not that many people actually reclined significantly, interesting. Definitely expected more given the amount of doomposting I see about numbers, but I guess this board is very EN focused.
>NijiEN inclining>NijiJP stagnant/slowly reclining>NijiEN above NijiJPOnly proves my pointEven with all that support JP branch is a fucking joke and its now bleeding livers
>>29952618Holy shit! HoloEN is crashing into the ground.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>112,507: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>45,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>45,004: Lize (Nijisanji)>36,603: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>32,894: Pekora (Hololive)>29,591: Miko (Hololive)>28,594: Marine (Hololive)>27,624: Salome (Nijisanji)>24,879: Hololive (Hololive)>22,641: Miko (Hololive)>19,894: Polka (Hololive)>16,366: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,908: Mysta (Nijisanji)>13,407: Towa (Hololive)>13,002: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,698: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12,376: Akina (Nijisanji)>11,784: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,255: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,157: Iroha (Hololive)>10,669: Koyori (Hololive)>10,613: Kaela (Hololive)
does this fag want for people to shit on enna, like he straight up asked if irys can get an 8k on karaoke, like what the fuck
>>29952578>NijiEN can do the job NijiJP cant
>>29952500Dont kid yourself, the moment nijien gets over 50 livers they'll be an actual joke that everybody will make fun of because theyre such an unsustainable company.
FUCK OFF, SUSAN. Stop recommending 3views to me when I'm listening to my wife sing.
>>29952578
Best collab I've seen
>>29952441Myth wasn't just buffed. The group was mega buffed by several factors. The first EN group, after Aloe effect, tons of clipwatchers at their disposal, during peak Covid period etc etc
>>29952685Probably early 2024, if people don't start graduating at some point.
>>29952718Can't even get an 8k like Enna, what a joke
>>299526588k is like the average IRyS stream and she usually gets overlapped by Mori not to mention im pretty sure she gets higher on karaoke.
>>29952708She's great, one of the best vtubers I've seen. Really creative and talented.
>>29952718At least use a proper fucking site so people can see what they are streaming.
>>29952708She's pretty good, but I only watch her singing streams.
Median of Peak CCV, July 2022>>29729405 :: Top 50>>29732525 :: 1k plus>>29734193 :: complete>>29735091 :: kaigaiTrue average of CCV, July 2022>>29738677 :: Top 50>>29738842 :: complete>>29739223 :: kaigai
Be friendly
>>29952642Yeah and with NijiEN rising its only a matter of time til they overtake them the same way HoloJP dethroned NijiJP. Whats even more funny is that there are a lot of similarities between HoloEN and NijiJP>both were the top>both only rely on 1 person whiel the rest slacks off using that popularity>both got lazy and uncreative>both relied on gimmicks to much >both cant retain their tourists>both getting dethroned by the underdog
Are Mumei or Ina doing a POV for Fortnight?
Don't think this was discussed in here. Another Indie tuber announced their graduation around 2 hours ago.https://twitter.com/fenriruvt/status/1554882930559750144
>>29952708she's not bad as far as 3views go
>>29952578Actually amazing for a 5 years old chuuba to be able to maintain 3k viewers. Come back when your chuuba celebrate her 5th anniversary and see how many of her viewers are still there, if she's not graduated first.
>>29952818>HoloJP dethroned NijiJPgood joke. Nijisanji is a household name in Japan. Nobody even knows who Hololive is.
Is chart anon still around? Is there a version of the Nijisanji waves like he did for the individual Hololive generations?
>>29952852We should keep a list
>>29952871Stop living in the past last samurai
>>29952850Mumei no. Ina is a tossup.
oh shit what, is it indies graduation time already
>>29952718They should graduate everyone below Enna
>>29952850No Mumei POV again...I wonder why she hates putting up her POV in collabs.
>>29952852She's in wave 7
>>29952852And it looks like every video was nuked from both Twitch and YouTube
>>29952852That makes three https://twitter.com/GezuDayo/status/1552300602532798467 https://twitter.com/RyeProject/status/1554169416119554048
>>29952852Seems she is reincarnating as well from her follow-up tweet.https://twitter.com/fenriruvt/status/1554883045496279040
>>29952968In this case it's because she has a stream after.
>>29952852Is she chinese?
>>29952618Top 35? Where's the top 20 of Holo JP or top 5 of Holo EN or top 3 of Holo ID?
>>29952968Because she's smart and knows that will kill her average ccv. If only IRyS did that.
>>29952966>both getting 4k in overlap hell doing a regular streamThats actually pretty good especially when you consider that minecraft is a debuff for selen since she's more known as a fps liver by the casual viewers
>>299529702.7k followers on YT, 8,1k followers on Twitch - too low for Anycolor
>>299530064 actually Mai Melody announced graduation earlier today.
countdown until nijisanji releases the elsuna wave with 12 members for maximum potential?
>>29953006They're all in wave 7
>>29952736I suspect 2023 is when theyll have that many. They love to accelerate instead of bringing in new people who will stay within the ecosystem. Im around 90% sure that the people in NA or anywhere else in the West that get turned onto the idea of a VTuber go to a Holo or an Indie (maybe a smaller corpo too) and if they see a niji and go to one of their streams get instantly turned off and go elsewhere.
>>29953090Not with these follower levels
Is wave 7 this close already? Or is a small corpo putting a new gen out soon? because all the graduations seem very mid for EN3
>>29952852Only been around since Feb. Sudden graduation. Seems to know Spanish and be mildly ESL? I'd guess Wave 7.
>>29953079Rookie numbers!ACCELERATE!MORE LIVERS!
>>29952852Anyone got any clips or videos of her? seems to have purged all her channels already.
>>29953051Wave 6 was meant to get big sub content creators in order to test the waters. Wave 7 is wave 6 rejects, remember? So that means these are the 2view and 3views who got passed in the initial sub filtering process who Nijisanji wanted to debut but didn't want to do so with wave 6, the experimental waveIf wave 6 does well, they'll keep looking for more 100k+ subbed talents. If wave 7 does well, they'll keep going after indies
>>29953127They already picked wave 7 along with wave 6
>>29952852My rrat is that someone from NijiEN management got a scoop on when EN3 will debut so they're scrambling to find indies so they can debut them as part of wave 7 on the same week as EN3.
>>29952618>>29952818>releases new wave>HOLY SHIT LOOK AT OUT INCLINING AVERAGESNeck thyself.
>>29953079
>>29953171How would someone in Nijisanji get insider info on what cover is going to do?
>>29953168God, I cant wait for another wave of 1 ok streamer and 5 shit tier streamers
>>29953157Just write her name in YouTube.
yeah, im sure any "won't hire anyone below 100k subs" color will hire a sub 3k subs
rye would probably cause some friction if she got into wave 7.
>>29953104They only have 26 now, they're not gonna add 24 more in 16 months. Probably....
>>29952610it's actually kind of incredible that HoloJP is still very close to that super rona buff level.
Any suspicious graduations big enough for EN3?
>>29953246>>29953163
>>29953163Question is, were Iluna "main" group, or were they rejects and next wave will be with real winners
>>29953171Wave 7 is likely in the same pool of applicants as wave 6 going by how nijien has been hiring.
>>29953253LMAO
>>29953288
>>29953230Kson...
>>29953285Historically size of a creator has not mattered for Cover. Just looking at who they took in for Tempus, some of those guys were 2-low 3 views.
>>29953301Iluna was the experimental wave. Wave 7 will be Luxiem tier
>>29953171wave 7 will have 200 vtubers because they are blocking all the indies from EN 3
>>29953193>JP cant even incline with Ranunculus an Voltacion debuts >Meanwhile EN easily canSay a lot about the branch when they can take advantage of a debut and incline
>>29953288not reading your fanfic
>>29952653the status?
>>29953230Kiara...
>>29953285Not really but this most recent girl that got posted could maybe qualify, at a big stretch. Seeing as Bae got in the standards might be a bit lower now.
>>29953340Just as Iluna was? If they chose more fleshtubers for wave 7 then it's dead in the water
>>29953253Holy based
>>29953377bots
>>29953230With Rushia gone that's a tough one.
>>29952886>Is chart anon still around? Is there a version of the Nijisanji waves like he did for the individual Hololive generations?Which one of the charts? I plan to update this one as it's a month old or so
>>29953380Why would Pomu tell Kiara about new waves and why would Kiara then go to upper management about it?
>>29953339You can't use Holostars to gauge anything. We don't even know that any big creators even applied to them other than Magni if you consider him big.
>>29953400They're not fleshtubers. Wave 7 is an indie wave. Niji is toying with the idea of what market to expand in. They went with fleshtubers for wave 6, now they're going for pure indies for wave 7. Whichever one performs better will be the pool that they draw from in the future
>>29953239NTA, but there's literrally 3 clips of her
>>29953392Bae had been a corpo before though.
>>29953260HAH, you would think theyd be smart.
Did you guys manage to identify any of Iluna before they were announced
>>29953339Better to look at the girls rather than stars.
>>29953461proof next thread?
>>29953056Nice>>29953171Interesting
>>29953474Yeah, a very very small one.
>>29953488
>>299534802 of the guesses in the rrats nest were accurate
>>29953461why do you keep saying this, are you an anycolor employee or something
>>29953486I mean it is the same story with the girls in HoloX and Council/myth. Some of them have gotten in despite not having a large viewer base like Bae, Ame, and Kyori.I just used Tempus since it is the most recent, and seems to have been handled similarly recruitment-wise.
>>29953377double gold
>>29953486Well, Bae was kinda on the low end, but maybe she should't be used as ana example with her current numbers
>>29953474She might have applied with her VA account as well which surprisingly did better than her corpo acc
https://youtu.be/8sLXFAdJi_cYour retort, /#/?
>>29953480Depends how soon before debut you're talking about. Kyo doxxed everyone a few days before. Ren's the only one I saw anyone mention say, more than a couple weeks before, and even that was very infrequent as more of a longshot guess. The most common guess for wave 6 was.....Magni of all people.
>>29953357NijiEN can share that fate once they ACCELERATE to NIjiJP numbers.
>>299534709 if you use #fenriru
>>29953461I like this rrat
Will this end up in another Mumei/Magni situation where nijisisters ritual post a certain someone will join niji only for the them to debut in holo?
>>29953480Before they were announced? No, but they all got identified after the intial teaser and before the debut. None of them were in consideration before that because they were mostly fleshtubers.If you search the Tempus PLs, though, 3 of them were discussed months ago as potential Niji wave 6 hires
>>29953577Oh he's doing more baseball tonight?
>>29953595anya cute!
>>29953595>slacker mentality as expected
>>29952852>late augustAlright EN3 copers you can piss off til next month
>>29953614And many anons predicted orc cyclist to get in, just didn't expect him to get his current avatar
>>29953595I like Anya but that's just cope from someone who hasn't ever been able to have much success and hasn't really tried to either.
>>29953662There was a dedicated ritual poster for Vesper in /NijiEN/as well.
>>29953595i enjoy stuffs
>>29952850It doesn't matter because Fauna will be dead last regardless. They're actually probably not streaming to help her. >Not even 1k waiting with an hour leftUseless
>>29953662they are just saying they will join holo/niji regardless of suitability to every graduation
>>29953595She's not wrong. A lot of /#/ hates numberfagging vtubers because you get retards like Mysta.
>>29953669Still can't get over them believing Nowa of all people would do well in nijisanji.
>>29953614Wasnt that also the same case for Noir? I saw a bunch of threads with his pl as guessing for stars
I think Tokoyami Towa will be in EN3.
>>29953702No you're right, I mean him, not Magni. he was the one Niji En thread kept begging to join them for months.
>>29953777Yeah it was Noir not Magni, I got confused.
>>29953765>A lot of /#/ hates numberfagging vtubers because you get retards like Mysta.More like /#/ hates Mysta since he can defeat Holo and have a good ccv compared to holoen numberfag who was retarded
>>29953623Thanks anon, hope someone saved some more, so we can cook some rrats when she getrs in
>>29953808But she's in EN1
>>29953808
>>29953733Anon she literally just said she doesn't care though. You said it yourself she doesn't try, and that's because she doesn't want to. Which is fine for her.
>>29953614>The most common guess for wave 6 was.....Magni of all peopleNo way. The by far most common guesses before their voices and models was known was Aruvn and Chimon. And both were wrong
>>29953808Nah I think Tokyo Tower gonna join tho.
>>29953773People say he's sort of like Fulgur content-wise. Fulgur doesn't do amazing but he makes enough to pay his bills for sure. I can't bring myself to ever watch Fulgur to say if it's true or not.
>>29953891Its fine for her since she's related to the owner
>>29953919Fulgur has over 5000 members. He's fine
>>29953614I think at the moment Tempus started tweeting, everyone found rest of them
>>29953808i heard sio is coming back as en3. She spent the last two years perfecting her english accent. rbc better watch out
>>29953873Your posts are boring, anon. Either get better bait or just stop.
holy shit fungus 5k members flew over my house
Imagine if EN3 is a group of /k/chuubas.
>>29953808Tokina Towa is not a streamer she is the devil
>>29953976If you wanna doubt me, check how many emotes he has. He has the maximum amount (54), which you unlock from having 5,000 members
one of the en3 chuubas will literally just be gura doing a scottish accent
>>29953977/k/, /fit/ tomboy autistic hags
So what do you think will be the major announcement on Council's 1 year anniv stream 3d model or alternate outfits
>>29953969But he recently won the en tally though
I'm surprise people forget here about vshojo they only reveled the japanese members so the en ones should be coming soon. Perhaps in October which mean we could see nijisanji wave 7, en3, and the new members vshojo debut back to back
>>29953919Seeing how Fungus played Disco Elysium, I can see a few similarities.
>>29954045who would apply to that trash fire after the nux drama
>>299540165,000 members, assuming it's in real money and not ARS, is about $7,500 income per month, pretax. It's good.
>>29954045>so the en ones should be coming soonanon...
>>29954045>en3 is going to mog nijien and vslutshowFeels good to be a holochad
>>29953480Make sure to check splits like wvt, asp, and lig for leaks like this >>28256286
>>29953051esl of some kind.. can't really pinpoint the accent.
>>29953662Most likely. The nijitards have become so cocky now they think they have the lock on enjoyable chuubas to watch.
>>29954035Outfits maybe, I think they hold off on 3D until the next concert to get foreigners to pay for a 2-day ticket. Will be Council and ID2 3D.
>>29954105how much is it after tax and the 50 cut?
>>29954105It is. I don't know a single Council or Myth member with 5k members besides Gura
>>29954035MERCH! But hopefully casual outfits since 3D is off the table since they can't even fly myth in.
>>29953688Do slackers have a longer lifespan than "tryhards" for a lack of a better term? It seems perfectly healthy so long as she's streaming and enjoying herself and the community she's built while earning a few bucks.>>29953733Can you expand a little by what you mean? How can she be coping if she even hasn't even bothered to try? >>29953741stuffs
>>29954045I don't think anyone is confident that En Vshoujo expansion is even real, after all the people that would make sense for them to hire say they got rejected (except for Haruka). Seems to be stuck in limbo.
>>29954156Someone who hopes for another chuuba streaimng in Euro hours>KiaraExcept her
This >A SONG WITH CRUNCHYROLL HIME HERSELF, HOLOEN DESTROYEDShit is the most hilarious thing Niji has come up with yet. It's like bragging you're collabing with a VerseN girl at the Sony expo or some shit.
>>29954212I really don't know what compels you anons to come larp as retards.
nguyen really is number poison, isn't she?
>>29954234Thank china for that and the new 10 variants they just released
>>29954255How many emotes do the Myth girls have?
>>29954045>I'm surprise people forget here about vshojokek, there is a reason for that.
>>29954261Just wait for the Z, easy podium after that!
>>29954045Why does Vshojo even reject all the Vshojo adjacent applicants if they're not a corpo, but a merch selling, tech providing label? :*)
>>29954153funny that he turned out okay-ish to actually decent in the end
>>29954261fuck off nijishill
>>29954254It serves as good bait tho, I unironically got pissed at how retarded it sounded, so much so that I almost replied.
>>29954045Because they are fucking irrelevant and are mogged on their own platform by what is effectively Korean Hololive?
>>29954291DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>29954212
>>29954254NijiCope 2022 edition is already rivaling NijiCope All-Time edition
>>29954045>people forget here about vshojoBoth talent and management has been at odds with regards to the new talents and with the kson and notrushia backlash I dont see that fight dying down any time soon
>>29954290Fauna hasn't even used as many slots as she'd get from the number of members that joined her day oneYou can't infer anything from this
>>29954400That's fair, I was wrong about InaHow about Mori, Ame, and Kiara?How about Council?I know for a fact Fauna doesn't have 54 emotes. Neither does Kronii, Bae, Mumei, or Irys
>>29953433This but only for Nijisanji's waves.
>only 101 people waiting for ina with 40 mins left to goI dunno why the fuck they play fortnite, none of them seem to really like it or understand it, and its viewer poison
What happened to fauna schizo, is he still around?
>>29954171That is after Susan and anykara cuts. otherwise it would be more
>>29954496They haven't used all of the slots they have so this is absolutely useless information for estimating>>29954427
>>29954261Remember to drink your gay/lesbian/himbo/bimbo/he/him/she/her/xe/xem/lem/ler/they/their/up/down/here/there/in/out/trannyfag/dilation juice anon!
>>29954557He camps in this thread 24/7 waiting for fauna to stream.
>>29954533Memes bro
Just woke up. Did Vesper mog Kiara?
>>29954290It's only useful if they're proactive enough to actually get emoji slots filled, anon.
>>29954212All HoloENs except maybe Bae has well over 10k members
>>29954316I find this really fucking weird, isn't there adjacent people that actually got rejected?
>>29953128Does anycolor require experience? Cover does and if she only started in feb that's when the applications should have been happening
>Ike in Asia primetime: 10K CCV DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH>Ike in EU primetime: Swedish streamer btw
I think EN3 is going to mainly consist of non-vtuber content creators because most indies are painfully mediocre
>>29954496While not my Oshii, I'm pretty sure Irys has 5k members - maybe Mori had that number during 1st year, but after all yabs and almost no streams I wouldn't be suprised if that number is lower now
>>29954496You don't have to use all the emote slots.
>>29954291KSON... HAHAAAAAA. I give zero fucks about her now. She fell so fast after she she joined vwhorejo alongside Rushia. She had to know Rushia was poison right? She does, and doesnt give a fuck, thats why shes suffering so hard. Befitting of an actual whore though I guess.
>>29954572I'm also basing this off the number of likes each liver/chuuba has on their membership content. You're right that it's not 100% accurate, but it's a good estimate, since individuals who are membered are significantly more likely to 'like' content as they're more involved with their streamer
>>29954496Mate, what makes you think they'll fill up the emote slots the moment they have enough? Stop being a dumbass.
>>29954496Kronii easily had over 5k members around her debut. I think I saw numbers from chat parsing that put her above 10k. From my research on IRyS numbers and things she's said she's probably around 5k (although she hasn't done any interesting member content and hasn't streamed as much recently so it might have affected that count)
>>29954683Any idea what she was doing before becoming a chuuba?
I haven't been paying attention to Elira, what the fuck happened? Is it just because of the horrible game?
>>29954533Ina just put up her POV.
>>29954496They don't use their slots instantly. Most of them are just sitting on them and add something now and again, like Ina with Tako council or Fauna with her new mascot emotes.
>>29954700>EU primetimeanon...>>29954719Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doing?
>>29954742It's like part 8 of an omega debuff game. Also it's only 23 minutes in, so there may be room to incline?
>>29953850it was both Noir and Magni
>>29954212IRyS has atleast 3k and she's literally one of the members that put out the least amount of member content. yes i am membered despite the lack of content because i just want to support my oshi
>>29954724why are you retarded
>>29954683They both require content creation experience but that seems to be a very broad category. Finana's experience was FFXIV ERP so.....
Here is an update on that>30 days true average CCVchartHere are the highlights1) HoloJP now lives in its own universe, with their true average nearing TWELVE K (12k)! The only time they got that high since 2021 was during Coco graduation and during HoloX debut 2) HoloEN is returning to their baseline after the massively buffed off collabs + Kiara bday live + Sana graduation. Let's see if they can stabilize at 9k in the next few weeks3) NijiEN, after inclining back to the 4k line (a line thei crossed during the excellent May and Jun 2022) reclined a little bit, likely as consequence of the waning debut buff of the new gen4) Despite the poor FPS season with APEX beind a dud and Valo and LOL not being able to float the box up, the VSPO girls found a way to stay afloat at their current high water mark, with new ouftits, internal (and external) collabs and MonHun.5) NijiJP (as a whole) is at a holding pattern, mostly because as their heavy hitters get a massive incline out of Koshien, it seems to come at the cost of the little guys.That and the fact their FPS streamers are, along with the rest of that box, stagnated because of the poor APEX seasonand6) HoloID inclined the fuck out. If Anya and Iofi continue increasing the roof of the branch they'll soon catch up with VSPO and NijiEN
>>29954343I mean people here think ccv is the endgame yet they don't realize is that english streamers have low ccv. Pokimane the top female twitch streamer on average get around 20,000 ccv per stream. Valkyrie is in the same boat is in the 20k range. The reasons why these two streamers are up top is connections. Pokimane owns evo and valkyrie collabs with famous celebrity's.
>>29954533Fauna just wants to live out her fantasy of being an edgy ninja, and she roped the other girls into it.
>>29953777I think the general sentiment being that he join nijiEN since no one had any idea if starsEN were even going to be a thing when he graduated (at least enough to actually get acceptable applicants)
>>29954569pretty sure its 3750 after all the susan and anykaras cuts plus taxes and thats assuming they were using burger money and hes living in burgerland
>>29954700>>29954742
>>29954724Likes are better, member polls for games are the best because they get the most engagement.
>>29954724>individuals who are membered are significantly more likely to 'like' content as they're more involved with their streamerYou can back this up with numbers, no?Only a small fraction of people will ever click the like button. Ever. If a chuba has 1k likes, chances are that's not even a 10th of her membership.
>>29954778>Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doingHovering around 6k for most of her recent streams.
>>29954853>it seems to come at the cost of the little guys.nijisanji in a nutshell
>>29954700I keep forgetting that he is swedish, also it's 11.30 PM now
>>29954742Shitty game and her audience has heavy overlap with Pom and Selen who are holding like 7k people hostage.
>>29954740Well, she scrubbed almost everything about her from social media, so maybe she was in some small corpo before?
>>29954778>Speaking of which, how's Not Rushia doing?Just reclined below 6k peak last stream.Based on her tweet and on the behaviour of the kaigai audience she might be quite literally on suicide watch
>>29954105How did you get 5000? any proof?
>>29954936Ouch...
>>29954742Part 100 of debuffgames + overlapping with Selen, Pomu and the first Ike Aia collab
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG, PEKO!!?
>>29954976She also streams on YouTube as Micheal cat, right? I think financially she not in a bad position, but mentally...
>>29954966>>29954016
>>29954962>Just reclined below 6k peak last stream.She was playing Tsugunohi which doesn't have much interest for the Twitch audience. She'll be back up at 7k when she plays Mario Kart or something.
>>29955000countdown stream tomorrow, i belieb
>>29954707The latest Mori's CD sold for more than 10k. Getting 5k membership is nothing compared to that.
>>29954914Not him but logical deduction, if you are willing to pay for something and go through that process it would probably would mean that you were likely to like particular streams and posts, especially since you get notified and can even like the posts from that notification on your phone.
>>29954874This shitty collab was her fault? Oh who am I kidding of course it fucking was. Wants to drag everyone down to her garbage level
>>29955045>>29954427
>>29954962She deserves this for trying to go the fucking GFE route again. She might actually commit sudoku at this point, unironically. Hope all those EOPs were worth it.
>>29954496Gura hadn’t even use all of them until this last bday …
>>29954853Hey Anon, appreciate the work as always. Quick question are you planning to add HolostarsEN in the future if their numbers keep up?
>>29954914Who don't know what % of people will like membership posts, but we can assume they would be consistent across streamers. So if Gura is getting 15k likes and Ina is getting 5k Gura *probably* has roughly around 3X as many members. Obviously some things can skew this such as one streamer putting out a lot more member content or posting a lot more, giving people more reason to be in the member tab and interact with things there.
>>29955000Marine's growth thanks to the concert+MV combo is fucking crazy holy shit100k so long after debut is insane
>>29954705Hololive always brings something new to the table while catering to hardcore fans. It's quite refreshing.
>>29955088I mean she easily could've lost most of those members because she's trash and even if fulgur is trash they actually take gift subs unlike that dumb bitch who keeps them off
>>29955088>>29954724
>>29954966Going off what they guy said based on the emote total.
>>29954724This also consistently massively under-counts, it only provides a floor, just like emote slotsGura at one point had more than 15,000 members going by likes btw
>>29953051>>29953163this is false. while many of them had 100k subs, they were also streamers and 3view just like the others. Its really not much different than Millie and Reimu who had 100k subs but streamed as 3view or 2view
>>29953595She's correct for her. And any chubba should not numberfag openly unless they are comparing it to themselves. like "I want to get higher on this ranking". It's a personal thing and not something that is all consuming.In regards to the other stuff, I watch my oshi, I play games, I watch anime.. And I compare numbers. It's part of the hobby. What I don't do however is breaking containment making it easier for Anya and other's to experience said numberfagging. If a chubba comes /here/ then it's kind of their fault if they find things they do not approve of.
>>29955000Marine is too strong.
>>29955100GFE vtubers still rule vtubing though. Look at Lamy. No vtuber can survive off greyfag views, they need members.
>>29955000I hope all the Nousagi in this thread are on suicide watch. They've been awfully quiet lately after Peko kept taking L after L. Deserved after how cocky they were. Imagine Peko rust getting mogged by fucking morning radio exercises.
>>29955071>if you are willing to pay for something and go through that process it would probably would mean that you were likely to like particular streams and postsLogic also dictates that people might think that being a member is enough of a support since likes wont put food on your chuubas mouth but membership will
>>29955071I have never once received a notification from YouTube about a member post
>>29954496Kronii has 5k+ for sure.
Damn YT algorithm, you for real right now?
>>29955257I do from time to time, but it's unreliable as fucking hell and usually i get notified by posts and not member streams
holoEN finally gets 3d and even a graduation and offcollab arcAlmost no inlcine. Explain
>>29955226I think every member of Iluna had at least 100k subs - it implies some kind of cut-off, in which case currently gradutaing chuubas have no chance to get in
>>29955236Didn't this girl go menhera after seeing her viewers ditch her for HoloX and sending her goodbye supas? Nene too iirc.
>>29955294>a literal 1 view
>Cover suddenly has Lost Epic permissions nowSo they really don't like overlap huh
>>29955241Suffering defeat after defeats...that's bunny's body was nearing its limit
>>29955236Yeah, but it doesnt work well on EOPs and the general Twitch audience if you arent teasing your holes every stream.
>>29955267>1k likes>4.9k votes>Average poll response rate is 35%This is a good indicator of why counting likes is not good for estimating, only for determining an absolute minimum
>>29955352>Anti >ClipfagName a more iconic duo
>>29955257Sometimes I randomly get them in my timeline. Sometimes I don't. Youtube's member system is garbage, usually I don't even get a notification when those streams go live, even though I'm literally paying youtube for the privaledge of watching them.
>>29954724Likes are only accurate to establish a hard Floor. Just as an example, Fauna gets around 800 likes for most of her member post, but got 1.7k for the art she posted right after the most recent one.
>>29955294>1 view>4 hour vodWHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK AAAAAAA
>>29953595I completely agree, a lot of the chuubas I watch don't exactly get the best numbers. I just like it here because I'm autistic and numbers are fun.
What set off the faunaschizo? She hasn't even started streaming.
>>299553173d doesn't incline you? Like, why would it buff normal streams. Look at Holox.And its not like they can do it whenever. Not even gonna touch on the graduation shit, baffling to suggest it'd boost them outside of the collabs they did with Sana.
>>29955294Holy
>>29955374>EOPs>Streaming 6pm JST????
>>29955294Wait until you see those 0 views recommendations.
>>29955414>>29955267>>29954791Alright, a lot of you have convinced me. I didn't understand why they wouldn't just add emotes to coincide with their number of members. Somewhat autistic, please forgive me
>>29955369?
>>29954724i found an old poll for Kiara with over 4k votes, her membership streams have 700-900 likesso not really
>>29955369What do you mean?
>>29955317The only EN that would unironically get a buff from 3D is IRyS since she'd be more involved with actual concerts whether it be solo or collabs like with Sora's birthday.
>>29955317Anon, compare how does HoloJP 3d reveal looks like vs. HoloEN looked like.If not for Ame, HoloEN would be without 3d to this day
>>29955294Saving this to reply to those nijibeggars. Do you have some more?
retracing the cover's EN hires so far,Are these graduating indies have the quality that cover is looking for?
>>29955465You know damn well what her actual audience is at this point, EOP savior fags.
>Ina already passed Fauna in people waiting for her streamImagine being so worthless
>>29955317There is/was an incline but you don’t incline by doing things people don’t care for, i.e. playing apex when you were supposed to do a vr stream. If you’re talking about the drop in true average, bro Gura had less than 10 streams last month. If Miko and Pekora stopped streaming you’d probably see a fat decrease in JP’s average currently too. It just comes with the territory of having your absolute biggest hitter MIA
How many likes do Finana and Reimu get on their member posts?
>>29955620Her chat is almost entirely Japanese, retard
>>29954884>3750If he gets it all in USD, which is obviously not true he gets the majority in other currencies but lets pretend, then those 5k members mean $25k precuts and pre tax. And no one knows the exact cuts anykara takes, but the most common one seems to be half of the post the Susan 30% cut. So 35% is left and that is $8.75k USD. Where in the US do you get that boned by taxes that 8.75k becomes 3.75k after taxes?But of course it is impossible to know hos actual take home because we first of all dont know the currency make up of his members and second of all the maxed out emotes just mean that he has minimum 5k members, and he has had them maxed out for months. So who knows of he has 5001 or 10k members now
>>29955657>FinanaDo you really belive someone in /#/ would member her?
>>29955633t. sapling
>>29955046I understand the reason for her numbers, it's the misfit with the audience as you said.She had higher hopes for the kaigai audience tho, thought she could replace the JOP she lost in the kerfuffle. She was wrong and the faster she realize that the least she'll suffer with the unavoidable recline
>>29952307holy shit, I understand october was a BUFFED month for haachama since thats when she came back from her suspension, and had a 90k outfit reveal at the time but looking at her numbers back then holy FUCK she was pretty much aqua levelI can't believe someone would ruin themselves this badly, there was no yab or anything like which makes it more impressive.she's a fucking retard for choosing to go to college, I will never stop seething because of thatimagine if we had 2020 haachama nowadays...
>>29955633You're right. She's so worthless that we should use her as the line instead of Sana from now on. Agreed? Good. That's settled.
>>29953006Gezu seems kinda... a bit out there for holo? And Rye seems to be generically cute anime voice girl her singing is cute so i wouldnt mind.
>>29955516>>29955537Take a look at the art and consider who just graduated.
>>29955617I don't think so, they all seem like generalist streamers that aren't especially well-known for anything. It's not impossible, see Bae for example, but seems unlikely.
hey anons look what ive just foundnatural graph I swear!
>>29954557Here you go lad>>29953752>>29955633
>>29955657Saw someone post a Finana one some time ago, was under 100, but don't really feel like going archive diving.Might be able to ask over in /NijiEN/ if you phrase the question right.
>>29954719Bad news anon, her old average CCV was ~2-2.5k and she's had about a dozen 5k+ streams since she joined. Her twitch average is up too.
>>29955142>Quick question are you planning to add HolostarsEN in the future if their numbers keep up?I already did, and StarsJP as well. Hid them in this chart because the sample is too small for it to be meaningful
Rikuchama!?
>>29955715fuck off, crossposter.
>>29954254anon you didn't need to drag down VerseN like that...
>>29955701There's a chance someone got a gifted sub from watching a Finana st......ok yeah, you're right.
>>29955617two of them seems to be a decent/good at singing. Or they had a nice voice to the short parts I listened to. The other two I have no idea, seems like one of them already almost nuked all content.
>>29955744Stop being a vague retard.
>>29955711Nijisister you should go back to cleaning the toilet.
>>29955778this is so fucking shameless holy shit
>>29955776Ah cool, look forward to seeing it when there are more samples.
>>29955672>And no one knows the exact cuts anykara takescorpos tend to take 50 and some nijifag the other day said that nijisanji the company relies on sc earnings so im assuming its in the 40-50 range too, unless youre a heavy hitter in sc like vox who has likely reneged that
>>29955746damn watch out for that tidal wave
>>29955778First the King graph and now this shit.
>>29955810Talking about gifted subs, those nijigirls who has severely dropped in superchats recently, do they have any amount of gifted subs instead?
>>29955672You know which coast fulgur is residing? I could do a quick calculation based on the federal tax and the different tax rates across each state
>>29955778
>>29955672Genuine question does Youtube remove emote slots like Twitch once you fall below the membership threshold?
>>29955753I remember that one. It was 1k, but anon that ordered them from highest to lowest, lost a 0 at the end for Finana.
>>29955778Nijifags explain this graph challengeLevel: Impossible
>>29955509Good emotes are hard to make. Ina,a professional illustrator who is known for blinding speed, needs an 1-2 entire stream to make like 6-8 emotes. You can buy them of course but it's not that easy to just come up with 50 interesting emotes that are readable at that size. Some just don't bother
>>29955778the fuck
>>29955743Gezu has rigging skills. Assuming she were accepted, that might be what got her noticed
>>29955778The fucker painted Pikachu with his graph.
Honestly I am confused at why a Faunaschizo exists. She's so inoffensive that the most that catalog antis can come up with is that she's "boring".
>>29955657Idk but this is Mel. That watchalong in the pic has 1k likes and 771 for the illustration
>>29955778Tower...
>>29955778Batman
>>29956065
>>29956011I've heard they do, yes. Not sure how it determines it, if it lets you pick which ones or just removes the 5 most recently added.
>>29956065kek
>>29954856Pokimane has clout because she was one of the first truly big (i.e.10k+ ccv) female streamers and is super family friendly (making her good for ads). Pokimane isn't really as successful of a streamer as she is an "influencer". Pokimane is one of those people that is popular because they're popular. You can't really use Pokimane or Valkyrae to undermine CCV as a metric because they're both exceptions to the rule. For 99.9% of streamers, CCV is the most important metric (especially on twitch where it heavily biases you for discoverability).
>>29956085You know when someone's made it when they have a dedicated schizo.
>>29956085Makes more sense when you realize it's not just a Faunaschizo, it's the same group who antis Nazuna and Laplus. Seriously autistic roasties who think they can astroturf /vt/ enough to make people hate hololive.
>>29956042Why the fuck would they recruit a rigger to be a streamer?I mean I can see limited amounts of niche content you can make as a rigger streamer, but its not really what anyone NEEDS in their corpo.
>>29956019I literally can't. Even with bots which is the obvious explanation that is one weird fucking graph
>>29956085She and Mumei have had antis since they debuted because of roommate shit. Don't think he can let go and since she's doing better....
>>29955778Nijis should be disqualified. Between this and King it is pretty blatant.
>>29955778well it's obvious which peak Tallyanon will use.
>>29955228>What I don't do however is breaking containmentOxymoron aside, this is important when you want to numberfag and do it in a productive/healthy way.
So we have a shitty mc collab with pomu and selenA shitty fortnite collab on holoenA shitty portal collab with ike and the other sjwA shitty valorant collab with shu and co.Which only leaves luxiem collab and mukei karaoke as source for numbers from en side today.
Here is the comparison between yesterday and today's Fuwa chart.Whatever happened today is Luxiem tier of bizarre and not easily explained for a 15 min stream
>>29956042Getting hired for rigging seems weird like what could she even do
I can't believe they're still doing the autistic "half of this single POV game stream is on my channel, than the other on your channel" thing JUST to escape Omega's 1 hour stream shit. I mean at the point where your streamers are maliciously complying with your request, why don't you just drop it?
>>29956254>Fix gura
>>29955778FUBURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>29956200if tally anon acts like a retard again we'll just fix it ourselves, again
>>29954853thank you true average anon, you're a boon to the thread
>>29955778My explanation (non bots) is that so many people filtered in at the same time with middling internet that the views kept lagging, as well as this dude having pretty spotty internet. It's similar to Vesper's miniature Zs that occur due to Youtube lag, except on a massive scale since instead of 6k viewers, it's 45k viewers
>>29956281lmao
>>29956178They are switching gears from an artist that won't draw to a rigger that won't rig
>>29955778So Niji win this month? Peko can't even compete it looks like, this is daily 50k every day guaranteed.
>>29956228That is a lot of debuff
>>29956200Lmao, this man is legitimately going to win August for Nijisanji. That's actually hilarious
>>29956229Okay it's obviously fucky but is this a bot vs botsweeper battle? I really am having trouble figuring out a good explanation for that fucking graph. Did Susan's robo-jannies finally find enough patterns in Niji ccv to start dropping the hammer like they did on King's stream?
>>29955778Assuming this will be relevant for the tally, are those uh....Zs? I'm pretty sure the 2nd one is. Is the first just a Z during a steep incline so there's no dip afterwards? What would the true peak be? 37k? 38K?
>>29955778>Riku: Stream is live! Activate the Z>Flunky: Yes sir! Z activated>Riku: CCV status? >Flunky: Peaked at 46k sir! Z is now reclining!>Riku: Damn...Just short. We need that 50k. Activate another Z!>Flunky: S-Sir?>Riku: You heard me damn it! Activate another Z! Now!>Flunky: B-But sir. Another Z so soon after the last one might tear the entire stream apart! We don't know the consquences!>Riku: You're dismissed officer>Flunky: Sir, please...>Riku: You're dismissed! Get off my bridge.>*Riku pushes the private off the console and mashes the "Activate Z" button with his palm*
>>29956268It might unironically still be a good thing for their channels. Makes for shorter more digestible vods and forces viewers to go to each channel.
>>29956380Yeah around that area 37k 38k just by eyeballing it
>>29956303Nah even though the baseline is higher it should have the same overall shape. Nowa's graph didn't look anything like this. Pikachu's ears are huge, and then the fucking plunge to the base of the tail is also massive, looks nothing like minor connection issues.
>>29955778This is so blatant and scummy.
>>29956371On the assumption it is not bots (because it being bots is the obvious conclusion and deserves no further thought) it could be the other way around: the CCV verification system disengaging, showing the present but unverified listeners, then reengaging and forcing a new verification
>>29956352This is metagaming /#/. I do legitimately think Niji will win August now based off these numbers
Wave 9 will really be the end of HoloEN. Just 5 more days, tick tock
>>29956228Yeah the EN schedules the past couple of days have been fucking abysmal.
>>29956303the ears are too huge even by that nowas scuffed stream standard
>>29952852Pan vtuber (Philipino) is graduating too
>>29956544Wave 7 for sure
>>29956496How embarrassing for hololive.
>>29956371>>29956489might be a combination of the 3 Bot vs Bot sweeper vs Verification disengaging and then reengaging
>>29956544Sounds like a prime nijien candidate
>>29956496 (me)Especially if you follow the trend for last year where each stream inclines until about a week in, then stabilizes. I could legitimately see daily 70ks for the rest of August
UUUuuuuuUUUuUUuuuUUU
>>29956672Please don't post midgets in this thread.
>>29956669I don't think it was botted last year.
>>29955778>>29956065lmao
2.5k for watson3.8k for ina3.6k for faunaWaiting rooms
>>29953873Get MAGGED mysta faggots
>>2995638038k yeah
>>29956544I thought niji tosses out SEA applications unless they live in NA then nvm
>>29956638Every year it is expected that Nijisanji will win Summer (because of Koshien) and December and every year it didn't happen was a surprise.
>>29956734I don't think it's botted now. I know the graphs look weird as shit, but why would Nijisanji risk using bots and getting completely demonetized off Youtube over a horse race that only /#/ cares about?
>>29956281
>>29956742Vrabi seems to have caught 4k for Fauna, but waiting rooms are always kinda messy in multi-PoV collabs.On another note, why the fuck does every HoloEN collab spend 5+ minutes on the loading screen ffs.
>>29956793ok, Noor.
>>29956742>Ame actually below FaunaI expected it but it's kinda sad to see. Can Fauna even play FPS games?
>>29956765This just proves that hololive can't compete with the big boys any more. Should we match them against phase connect from now on? Leave the main tally to Nijisanji and VSPO.
>>29956489But the real question here is, why does it happen so frequently for niji but not that often for holo? Or others for that matter.. maybe we need some data from fleshtubers.
>>29956028IRyS also said she will add more emotes after her redesign or said something along the line of that.
>>29956832Fauna usually has sub 3 minute but it's a collab so she's probably waiting on the others.
>>29956793Stock price
>>29956871*yawn*
>>29956862>Ame actually below FaunaWell deserved
>>29956858I mean you can call me whatever you'd like, I'm just looking at the numbers and trends from last year. Between this and Koshien, I think Hololive loses August
>>29956544>PanI actually know the reason for that Classes going back to face to face means that she has less time to stream
>>29956876Fauna is pretty much the most punctual EN for solo streams. Most of her loading screens seem to be sub 1 minute.
>>29954853And here is the same chart, but with HoloEN and HoloJP removed to make the rest of the branches inclines and reclines visible to the naked eye.In this cut it is possible to see both the stagnation in the past few weeks from Nijisanji (even with Mayuzumi graduation being so big, the same with Koshien streams) and the massive incline by HoloID.
>>29956742Everyone seems to expect only Fauna to have tolerable audio over in global so it might lead to some interesting shifts.
>>29956994>HoloEN and HoloJP removed to make the rest of the branches inclines and reclines visible to the naked eye.brutal
>>29956793IDK but they've seemed to have done it for Salome, the Niji EN wave 6 debuts, and now Kuzuha's baseball thing. There's a tendency to keep pushing things if you can get away with them. Is this really botted? Probably not, but it does look weird as fuck.
>>29956994>it is possible to see both the stagnation in the past few weeks from Nijisanjijp is stagnating even with that graduation and koshien streams huh
Anyway, enjoy the doomposting. Sorry if this thread becomes unusable for the next few weeks, turns out Minato understood the real /#/ meta
>>29956672Funny thing about this image is it's the highest most liked/retweeted image that artist has ever made. He struggled to get 1k for most of his shit, even when he drew other holos like Ame, but this one has 60k+ likes. Good for him.
>>29956994grim
Bilibili viewfarms got up early today
The VOD views are stuck in verification hell now, let's see where they'll fall in 24 hours.Previous one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aD5okh2k5cis with 377k now in 24 hours or so
>>29956793>getting completely demonetized off Youtubepretty sure you cant get demonitized or banned of youtube for bots since that urban youth streamer is still using it along with those elon musk shillcoins and they havent been demonetized or banned
>>29957068Niji jp has too much shitters and looking at luna it will be a similar story
>>29955778I don't think it's even possible to pretend this is remotely useful information any morePeople are numberfagging seismographs and random number generators
>>29956994do you have nijiEN males and females separated, i was curious how each one is doing.
>>29957330That aligns with the view count imo. So either you have to assume Nijisanji is using bots for literally everything (unlikely imo) or that Youtube verification is fucked
>>29957158I wish Fauna got more lewds
>>29957333cryptoscam channels do get banned and create new ones, but thats because they are running literal scams.normal streamers like that black guy blatantly using viewfarms do nott get banned, that part is true
Current ranking. Ame seems to have gotten most of the Kiara funnel.
>>29957520You have to get numbers to get good lewds. Council doesn't get numbers and she's a runt even among them.
>I don't think its bots>Its not botted imo>Its unlikely bottedGoddamn this thread glows.
>>29957595Holy fuck the reclined detective...
>>29957158They’re doing saplings a service, there’s not much Fauna fanart out there compared to the other ENs, especially her lewds
>>29957113Kys discordfag.
>>29956994I think iluna may hurt nijien's average in the future.
>>29957595embarrassing numbers all around. wave 3 won't be enough to save them.
>>29957648I mean with Niji IPO which would entice them to bot, B2 trying to boost their investment by botting and Susans retarded codding Its really hard to pinpoint which is which without having info only yt has access too
Whatever you do, don’t look at NijiEN’s live numbers. It is a very sad look and I just KNOW no one wants to laugh or anything…
>>29957780its bots and viewfarms
Is it really that hard to believe that people are tuning into a fun gimmick stream that requires only 15 minutes of your time?
>>29955241>Awfully quietLmao you must be on a coma when pekora won against koshien recently you faggots even begged for kuzuha to save you that day lmao seethe dilate nijitroons
>>29957871Anon, tuning into it wasn't the issue. No one had a problem with yesterday. It's the fucking pikachu shaped graph that is fucking confusing
Hi, incoming some Twitch July data.Big * that the data was pulled automatically, meaning it was all in UTC instead of the JST cutoff, and there were a hell of a lot of corrupted and missing lines initially.I've done a hell of a lot of manual tweaking and hopefully everything should be accurate, but if you do see someone or a stream missing, call it out.Overall big month for Vshojo, though, a lot of their numbers are pulled up by the big announcements and reveals, even Zentreya's 3D debut making the top 20 streams after a raid.AX, Connor and the VShojoJP debut putting the official channel at the top, if you don't consider the min 5 stream limit.Otherwise it's Ine for the 2nd Month in a row, with Shoto getting really close in 2nd.Restia debut as a Vtuber and got gold 4 days in a row with ALGS watchalong, if you want you can not count him but, i don't care. Most of them are converts and he's been a full time Vtuber since + numbers are numbers.If you do disconsider him, Ine wins 2 more times, Shoto one more and Veibe once. Nothing changes at the top.
>>29957595EN is actually a dying branch jez
>>29957871It's because of the shitty graph, no one had any issues yesterday because it was clean
>>29956862Okay but, this is literally Ina (+1 hour) and Fauna's time slots. Let's not act shocked when they get good numbers in them, when fucking Gura got beat by Ina when she went to this timeslot.
>>29956281Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
Reminder that Enna is stronger than all of HoloEN.
What the fuck is happening to her
>>29958056Debuff game and viewers getting sucked by shu and selen/pomu
>>29958042she's gonna get mogged by mumei's karaoke though
Fauna takes the lead.Debuffson...
>Fauna > Ina > AmeGO FAUNA GO!
>>29958029The sad thing is that this used to be Ame’s timeslot last year before she went full retard and go ass backwards in just about every possible thing she did aside from smol3d and fish tank
>>29958056Probably dying because she doesn't mingle with the high roller clique. Isn't she "normal" by NijiEN standards?
>>29958042It is crazy how little her chat overlaps with HoloEN. Is her audience mostly Chinese?
>average 6-10k for the past few weeks>suddenly get 40k+ for 20 min streams 2 days in a row
>>29958150I doubt that. Mumei is a weak member of a weak wave and she has been reclining sharply lately.
>>29958166FAUNASCHIZO IN SUICIDE WATCH
>>29957911>manwhore gaybaiter actually dominates twitch vtubing, stopped only by a humble Korean no one outside of her natin has heard ofoh that's embarrassing
>>29958056One of the worst streaming games ever created that is still inexplicably played by streamers.
>>29957911Shoto really leeched his way to relevance.
>>29957537What makes you think he's viewfarming or botting? I don't think I've seen a noticable cull on his subs or VOD views yet. If he was botting shouldn't those have been noticably culled by now? YouTube is known for heavily overreacting and culling shit, but that guy has been untouched for months. It's not like his VODs have weird numbers in proportion to his CCV, he gets like 50k-100k CCV every stream and his VODs are as big as xQc and Salome's for that tier of streamer.
>>29957732And this is why using averages across the entire branch is dumb.Nijisanji doesn't aim for parity, even if they have 100 shitters, if they have 10 successes who can compete with Hololive then they're on equal standing. The shitters do not matter.
>>29958253:^)
>>29958243Yeah she is a sistuber for Luxiem fans. The only one in NijiEN that have succeded with that. Nina tried but none of the sisters actually watches her if there are no males collabing with her
>>29958019He's doing this morning program everyday in August iirc so we'll get plenty of data anyways.
>>29958200>before she went full retard and go ass backwards in just about every possible thing she didqrd?
>>29958396That was the qrd
>>29957666This is the future she wished for
>>29958364the chinese market is too powerful. hololive made a mistake when they ran away. it's too late for them to apologise now.
>>29958042At this rate fauna and ina will pass her on fucking fortnite
>>29958442Thanks
Ame told her viewer to fuck off because she's preparing to graduate into a holoEN producer position.
>>29958029This is literally Ame time. This is what Ame wanted her timeslot to be, if she could ever keep to a schedule.
>>29958364Selen's Chinese but she's the wrong kind. Maria is too so maybe she can replicate it. Not sure what kind she is.
NijiEN overlap hell is hilarious right now.3 collabs in one of their weakest timeslots of the day.
>Vox is 2-4k shitter in that timeslot>but Enna is totally like, chinese audience booster>not just chinese, specifically the fujosyou wot mates? anyway an 8k karaoke is a fucking joke
>>29958056how many times do i have to repeatSTOP PLAYING AI SOMNIUM FILESterrible stream game
>>29958521Amega
>>29958256Fauna schizo is always on suicide watch. After all hes a schizo for uncle Nowa too.
>>29958528Its way more common for her to stream like, 3-4 hours from now. Either way, doesn't change that Fauna and Ina dominate this timeslot.
>>29958250Well, technically following the new rule, his 2nd stream is 38k, not including the 2 z peak
Don't let the current standings confuse you, Fauna would be losing to Ina and possibly Ame if Mumei had a frame up. It's very likely most of her viewers are just hoomans.
>He's still hype about Enna hitting 8k with singing buffActual holovsinger reject.
>>29958657lol
embarrassing
>>29958657Fauna IS losing to Ina.They only swapped over to Fauna when she was the only one standing.
HoloEN box 19KNijiEN box 18K
>>29957911Should have highlighted Restia too with Red like RPR since they're recent converts.Natsumii and Beryl Lulu are on/off Vtubers, manually i would only add Vtuber streams, but i'm not bothering to check these now.>>29958279Yes.The 3 S IndiesShoto, Shylily and Snuffy really stepped up this month.>Top Streams for July while i work on the daily gold thing i forgotSome huge events and record breaking this month - Amemiya Nazuna had the biggest vtuber debut on Twitch and 2nd all time best stream peak, after Nimu's 80k Raid. - 17th of July is the best day for Vtubers on Twitch ever, number wise. With the Vshojo debuts and Gosegu's return after 1 month. - 4th of July is the worst performing day i've ever tracked on Twitch. Almost no one big streamed and Snuffy won 2 medals. Her Subathon peak not even being on this day, but that's the problem with tracking Twitch streams that last 48 hours. - The first time i've seen more than 1 vtuber with 1 million+ watch hours in a month, 3 this time with VIichan, Ine and Shoto. Lilpa and Restia being pretty close too.32 streams over 15k this month, even 10 over 20k, 4 30k+ and the 1 50k+ Nazuna debut112 over 10k - 54 by Isedol, 26 by Indies, 24 by Vshojo10k streams up from 107 last month, down from 117 in May.
>Every stream lagged and lost some viewers, only Shu got a Z.Great website Susan.
>>29958697 (me)I'm trans btw
>>29958221No it is just because she is playing part 80 of a debuffgame during heavy overlaps. Doesnt have anything to do with "high roller cliques". Does that mean luxiem? Because she collabs with Luxiem all the time, it doesnt have anything to do with that
Mumei bailed on the collab due to her internet, chances the karaoke gets shelved?
>>29958657>had higher wait room>started later than ina>still highestnah, i don't think takos show up for fortnite
Iluna…https://vrabi.net/video/MW8fNnpi5IU
>>29958757Doesn't that mean Holo girls are using bots that are being removed and Nijisanji's viewers are being culled?
>>29958864she got very impressive numbers on a random game stream a few days ago
>>29957502>do you have nijiEN males and females separated, i was curious how each one is doing.Yep, here it goes.The highlights would be1) NijiEN boys are ahead of all of the minors. Luxiem was really the "golden boys" generation for both their EN and JP branches and the addition of Noctyx crashed their average from a very high peak. Let's see how ILUNA contributes2) NijiJP girls are snaking around the 2k line for most of the time3) NijiJP boys reclined from a high in early June 4) NijiEN girls are inclining, first to 2k until mid June, now to near 3k, usually a sign of their floor risingand the punchline5) HoloID currently outranks both the NijiJP girls but also the NijiEN girls, and by almost 500
>>29958954Fall guys is a buffGetting drunk on stream is a buffDon't be retarded
sorry, holoEN. 8k is for talented streamers only.
>>29958905It's because she was attempting to download fortnite while being in call with everyone...these girls never learn. Her karaoke should be fine
>>29958540Selen gets a lot of chinese viewers when she have done her few streams pandering to them. But the sisters arent really interested in Selen's normal streams like apex and most games in general. Enna has inclined so much by keeping games to the minimum and most of the big CCVs she gets in gamingstreams are very casual. But mostly it is with lots of cooking and handcraft streams etc that she gets her biggest numbers on
>>29958954>random>drinkingDude...
>>29959016>HoloID currently outranks both the NijiJP girls but also the NijiEN girls, and by almost 500
>>29958939He's getting his normal numbers
Isn't valorant supposed to be gigabuff content for Shu
>>29959282finana debuff
>>29959282finana..............................................
>there are literal nijiEN girls encroaching on numbers watson pulls these daysngmi
>>29958757>Ame POV at a *far* distant last in a group shooter collabShe really did decimate her channel, didn't she.
>>29959282Think it is mostly when it's collabs, everyone funnels to his PoV.
Ina and Fauna making love
>>29959282It's his regular content and he's overlapping with a billion Nijis lmao
>>29959178>his normal numbersActually, it's his third lowest record so far, beating only a zatsu and a SC read
>>29959282Only if he is the only pov
>>29959282Bro, it's a split POV and there are literally 7 people overlapping him. Like damn, feel free to shit on the guy when he gets shit ccv and no one else is streaming, but this is one of the most ridiculous overlaps I've seen
another day with no holoEN stream above 8k.
>>29959175With the way things are going in a few months they might outrank some of the HoloEN girls too..
>>29959353Lewd!
fauna is unironically better than ame who spams fps all the weekwhat the fuck
>>29959016Thanks Kobo
>>29959282>>29959345Never mind, I just looked at his thumbnail and assumed it was solo, it's a collab. Yea those are shit numbers.
Kiara line soon to be Ame line for MythBae line for CouncilRyS
>>29959365The 3.2k he got from the food review was a Z, most of these are.High 2k, low 3k is his normal number.
They can only be doing this on purpose, to see the true size of each streamer audience>F-Finana.... M-(
>>29959455where did 76k of his debut viewers go?
>>29959398Just wait a couple more months.
>>29959282>Aia is already a 3 view shitterHope she drank that he/him/gay juice!
>Nijis spamming about Ame>Meanwhile NijiEN
>>29959398>MUH OVERLAP HELL>EN hoursOh, so now it suddenly matters when it's NijiEN?
>>29959404Mumei pls save us from shitty fps collabs
>>29958343viewfarms dont get any culls from youtube, only the cheap bots do. Theres a reason they cost 50x more for each viewer
>>29959398Well is his first collab with asther but at this point this guys are a debuff
>>29959282English-speaking country (North America(China).png
>>29959282only on one-pov collabs
>>29959579>Implying I'm a NijifagI will shit on Ame all day if I want, you teammates ruined /hlgg/ and made it unusablem now go back.
>>29958749>Full daily stream rankings attached, 4k cutoff>JULY 2022 TWITCH GOLD 1) Ine (Isedol) - 14,212 - Umamusume2) VShojo Official (VShojo) - 30,440 - #VShojoNext, Live from AX3) VShojo Official (VShojo) - 35,325 - CDawgVA x Ironmouse Panel, Live from AX4) Snuffy (Indie) - 7,996 - Subathon5) Ine (Isedol) - 14,393 - React - Naver6) Jingburger (Isedol) - 15,342 - Anime character VS (Raid)7) Restia (KSGK) - 18,242 - Apex - ALGS watchalong8) Restia (KSGK) - 18,530 - Apex - ALGS watchalong9) Restia (KSGK) - 18,578 - Apex - ALGS watchalong10) Restia (KSGK) - 20,609 - Apex - ALGS watchalong - Final11) Lilpa (Isedol) - 12,820 - Anime character VS12) Shoto (Indie) - 12,863 - Phasmophobia ft. Shu, Elira, Minase13) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 19,567 - Speak of the Devil with Ludwig14) Lilpa (Isedol) - 17,034 - React - Naver + Hades15) Shoto (Indie) - 16,887 - Genshin Impact16) Ine (Isedol) - 15,409 - React - Naver17) Nazuna (VShojo) - 53,934 - Debut18) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,443 - React - Naver19) Ine (Isedol) - 12,267 - Utau piano collab + learning French20) Shoto (Indie) - 14,487 - Valorant21) Jururu (Isedol) - 12,112 - 19h stream - Fall Guys + Starcraft22) Ine (Isedol) - 13,411 - React - Waktaverse music23) Shoto (Indie) - 14,357 - Genshin Impact24) Shoto (Indie) - 23,752 - Birthday celebration & drunk karaoke25) ZilverK (LA RATIZA) - 16,411 - Minecraft (Raid)26) Ine (Isedol) - 19,516 - 1st Anniversary - friends and fan submissions27) Gosegu (Isedol) - 19,715 - 1st Anniversary - friends and fan submissions28) Shoto (Indie) - 15,908 - Stray29) Shylily (Indie) - 26,223 - 3D Debut30) Zentreya (VShojo) - 18,189 - 3D Debut31) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,051 - Lost Ark >PER COMPANY 13x: Isegye Idol 8x: Indie 5x: VShojo 4x: KSGK 1x: LA RATIZA >PER STREAMER 6x: Ine, Shoto 4x: Restia 3x: Lilpa 2x: Gosegu, VShojo Official 1x: Ironmouse, Jingburger, Jururu, Nazuna, Shylily, Snuffy, Zentreya, ZilverK
>>29959705>teammmmmmmmates
>>29959612So where is this ghetto kid getting the money to consistently viewfarm every stream since the beginning of the year for millions of views?
>>29959730Glad to have you back Twitch tally Anon.
>Vesper gets 6.6k on his zatsu>Regis gets 4.9k on Hunt Showdown with Vesper literally right after??? The fuck? You're telling me 1,700 people tune in to listen to Vesper talk about random shit but won't tune in to watch him play vidya with blue boy?
>>29959705>teammate
>>29959730Did you manage to fix the script?
>>29959730>4 Vshoujo golds..
>>29959821I know women turned off by Blue Boy's voice
>>29959016>the addition of Noctyx crashed their average from a very high peakKek ain't that the truth.
>>29959596Do keep in mind that not every anon on this board is the same person. I'm not going to shit on Fauna or Ina or Ame's ccv either because they're doing a fucking split POV Fortnite stream
>>29959821Yes. Blue guy filters people with his gay voice.
This is some steamy graph mingling.
>>29959730>Shoto more golds than all of VshojoIt's fucking over
>>29959705>t.mate
>>29959821His voice actually filters some people.
>>29959730>29) Shylily (Indie) - 26,223 - 3D Debut>30) Zentreya (VShojo) - 18,189 - 3D Debutheh, fitting
>>29959821I think the raid failed and it happens.Same reason why just because you have a Gura collab doesn't mean you're sure to get 20k+, eventho in this case it was particularly egregious since its literally right after.Might have lost some viewers to Kiara too.
>>29959821Kiara started right then too.
>>29959802who the fuck knows, you can tell hes not really from the ghetto though
Is the shark really the only HoloEN that can get better numbers than Enna now?
>>29959730I only see Ironmouse on here once. There must be a mistake. I thought she was the biggest vtuber on Twitch?
>>29959398I'm not shitting on him, but he gets giga numbers WHILE in collabs with overlaps. Hell he was fucking dominating everyone else in the 10 manjisanji VAL collab.
>>29959730And medals breakdown>By groupreally shows how much the other "groups" have stepped up, as Isegye's average went up this month despite heavy overlaps from its members.They're below 20 gold a month for the first time since April.Group - Gold / Silver / BronzeIsegye Idol - 13 / 17 / 15Indie - 8 / 6 / 10VShojo - 5 / 7 / 5KSGK - 4 / 1 / 0LA RATIZA - 1 / 0 / 0SCARZ - 0 / 0 / 1>Medals by vtuber attached
>>29960085what a bloodbath
>>29959905Lets be honest, it's ok to shit on Ame's ccv in this case. 3k lower than both, in a timezone she usually streams in, in the content she's known for, when she has more subs than both the others.
>>29960038Gura can't even beat Finana because she doesn't stream.
>>29960089just add the "its afraid" line on the pic anon
>>29960066I haven't seen enough of him to really understand, so I'll take your word for it
>>29960141feel free to do it
>>29960120All of Ame's subs come from Gura inflating her back in 2020/early 2021.
>>29960066That was during CN time. It's NA time rn and not even the best one.
did improvementgate actually kill ames numbers?
>>29960085"Restia" is some kind of chink? Taiwanese?
>>29960120That's fair, but everyone knows that Ame's ccv is lower than Ina and Fauna's, and 5/6 PM EST is literally Ina and Fauna's bread and butter timeslot, whereas Ame streams... who knows what times. This is just par for the course in my mind
>>29959970Thanks for pointing it out>>29959730Should have been>30) Zentreya (VShojo) - 18,189 - 3D Debut (Raid)12,343 was the peak before the raid - just plowed into showing the 3D in the first few minutes and people already started leaving.
>>29960120She's getting her usual numbers for these days. She's a 4-6k streamer now. Unironically think we might be seeing the Ame line soon if Bae steps up.
>>29958396It’s too much to go over but the general gist is that she went for months doing every possible thing to debuff herself. >Develops gluten allergy, refuses to make a dedicated effort to help it and decides to keep eating bread and gluten>Stays sick for months>Cancels half her scheduled streams every single week>Refuses to listen to her members when they start making complaints>Drops every single project she made that were highly successful (animal/insect reviews, fish tank, ame in the a.m.) because they’re “too much work”>stops collabing and actively avoids any possible collab with Gura because she doesn’t want to be a sidekick>This among many other things cycles for a good half of 2021 and into 2022She’s alright now and does a lot of behind the scenes work but all she fucking does now is play Elden Ring #48 and obscure games while making guerillas that overlap 4 different people.
Fauna and Ina's CCV is ridiculously close, what the hell. I mean with 10-20 person difference
>>29960226Nah, but everything else she does to debuff her ass did.
>>29960226Her numbers have been shit for a long long time now. Erratic schedules and debuff content harmed her.
>>29960292it helps that Fauna is the best one of the 3
>>29960226Her numbers were pretty dire before that.
>>29960389Stop falseflagging schizo
>>29960263At this point, you're either a teamate or someone who only watches Ame when she does one of her big streams.She's filtered out the non-teamates so hard that it's frustrating to follow her casually.
>>29960424don't ever fucking reply to me again Faunaschizo
>>29960226Nijis are so desperatae for Hololive drama LMFAO
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1554962762995970049what are they recording
>IRyS and Gura are cheating the system by rarely streaming so they can keep decent numbers
>>29960226No, she was already reclining. She should really just go full producer and be done with it at this point, it's clear she's been phoning it in for months.
>>29960292I wonder how faunaschizo is holding up
>>29959595Believe in the unarchived Moom karaoke
>>29960226I improved myself and now I watch Fauna
>>29960292Fauna capitalized hard on the month that Ina was on break. I was watching her incline that whole time, it was kind of insane
>>29960508it's just code for being lazy. nothing ever comes of these recording sessions.
>>29960508Could be crunchyroll or more likely anniversary stuff
>>29959815Thanks>>29959852Yes, the final piece was that bash couldn't read in the txt file since it was a Windows txt...It needed to be converted to Unix with dos2unix.There were also a lot of pages where dates appeared differently multiple times, that screwed up the tables, but i patched them manually.Also, there was too much data since i couldn't get it to only pull July 2022 data. Ended up writing in 26 list files, which also needed converting to be edited, but it worked out.
>>29960508I mean if even Vesper is talking about there being a lot off off-stream work for Tempus already, there's probably a lot of projects underway for HoloEN
>>29960508WTF is that kaomoji? Also, this better be a good recording because it might KILL the potential momentum Kronii would pick up from a collab with Kaela while the later is still hot
>>29960508Voice lines for Holo EarthLmao nah nobody would believe that shit
>>29960523>phoning it in>when she was the mastermind behind most HoloEN projectsHOLY COPE
>>29960508Sex, with me. It'll be the most viewed premiere ever.
>>29960687She would be the perfect person to voice the menu or AI or whatever for the English version and have like A-chan or Nodoka do the Japanese version.
>>29960672>WTF is that kaomoji?how many newfags have we got these past few weeks?
>>29960672Kaomoji is her lying face on the ground
>>29960230Not sure which part, but yes. Streams in Mandarin, English and Japanese.RPR, Selen, Dtto's and now Astels friend.The whole East Asian Apex scene is one incestious mess actually.
>>29960809>incestuous messh-hot
>>29960626>Also, there was too much data since i couldn't get it to only pull July 2022 data.Just add this>| grep "2022-08" here>sort -r | grep "2022-08" > list.txtYou can even grep it to the current date and have just the tally of the day.Also: given that this is the Twitch tally with no overlap with the japanese tally, just keep using their own date format, nevermind trying to go JST
>>29957147If his streams' numbers keep the same trajectory they had last year, this might be Niji's best chance to get a clear win over Hololive. We are going to see at least 2 weeks of minimum 47k peaks - that is going to hard to beat for a normal stream without any gimmick, even for Pekora. Holo will need special streams to compete with his morning exercises streams, not even counting Koshien yet
>>29960783Come on, back in my days they were called emojis and they were simple>:D>>29960786I don't think she's enthusiastic with whatever she's recording
>>29960880>minimum 47kExcept 38k today?
>>29960747I meant in her streams, you retard. Literally Apex and Elden Ring for MONTHS with random shit she isn't going to finish thrown in-between. It's clear her strong point now is helping organize and produce 3D events. That's why I was saying she should just take over a producer role.
>>29960880Yeah, but just like last year, August is celebration month for HoloJP.It'll be close and a lot of numberrot.
People here that are not into fortnite may not know this but vshojo has an collab with them coming up according to an recent leak. It right after the dragon ball collab. This shows that the vshojo brand is on par with dragonball,naruto,marvel and the fucking nfl. It's insane this is going to incline the brand as a whole.
>>29960880The Niji shilling in these threads is real, holy shit.
>>29960869Ok, didn't try at the sort part. Plus i had it as "07-2022" and "07/2022" and ofc it wasn't pulling anything.Should be easy to just pull it daily then with>sort -r | grep "2022-08-01" > list.txt
>>29960226I dont like BGM in collabs
>>29960990>That's why I was saying she should just take over a producer role.You idiots have been repeating this shit for more than a year now and don't even know what it means. Event organizers of way bigger Nijievents like Maimoto still stream."She's only getting 6k now on game streams so she should switch careers" is fucking retarded.
>>29961031>an collab>an recent leak how much does vshojo pay you to write these posts?
>29961031window licker
>>2996088038k for today if nijiniggers follow the new rule. The 2 z peak doesn't count
Hey where's that fag that was talking about Pomu and Selen REALLY INCLINING because they were DOING SO WELL that they beat the apex collab yesterday yet a 3 man split POV collab has each passed their peaks
>>29960809https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4i_ZEcNCo4&t=5sSeems like she's in the same company as RPR now?
>>29960936>>29960936>I don't think she's enthusiastic with whatever she's recordingRetardchama, it means she's exhausted or feeling lazy.
>>29961267>Retardchama, it means she's exhausted or feeling lazy.So, a normal day for Kronii
>>29961203They are doing really well.
>>29960963It's showing 47,990 on Vrabi for me, though?>>29961002That's fair. I'm looking at current Holo's event schedule and it looks like Mio + Twap's birthday, Marine's, Gen 5 strong hitters (Lamy, Botan)'s, and Shion's birthdays are strong contenders for gold. Still need some more golds, though
>>29960508mumei mentioned a snot project around when this post was made>>29466237 could be that
Once again, why can't EN have this kino?
So Fauna reached 598k, which is what she said she wanted before doing an endurance to 600k. Gonna be interesting if she does it right after Fortnite or chooses to delay it. Doubt she wants to risk overlapping Mumei knowing her.
>>29961203They're doing well compared to last year not compared to HoloEN. The way I see it, NijiEN males should be compared to HoloEN females only and NijiEN females should he compared to HoloEN males. They're the 1st and 2nd class citizens of EN vtubing respectively.
>>29960230Yeah, a Taiwanese, I remember he's the reason why rpr starting to follow vtuber.
NijiEN box 16K (8 streams)HoloEN box 19K (3 streams)
>>29961443600k in a year. embarrassing. vox already has 2m+ between his YT and B2 accounts.
>>29961378?
now I know why fortnite died, it's fucking boring
>>29961212pff, top comment>David Lin 2 weeks ago (edited)>Actually Restia is a maleso, KSGK is just a group he and RPR are a part of, SCARZ is the Esports team they're both and dtto part of...Like how Hal is part of Neo-Porte as a vtuber and TSM FTX as a streamer?
>>29961378Need strong event organizer + script writer, which none of HoloEN are (including Ame)
>>29961473He?
>>29961555why can't hololive get good sponsorships?
>>29961378Your interpretation of kino is extremely shallow
>>29961364open the graph
>Ame is not even going to make the cripple tallyNo...someone save her...
>>29961596Are you actually retarded?
>>29961691She should improve herself
>>29961586Yes, "He"Restia shared his conversation with RPR about vtuber Apex tourney
(one year ago today)* FINAL TALLY OF 2021-08-04 *>51,821: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>41,706: Hal (Indie)>31,966: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>28,765: Marine (Hololive)>27,960: Shiina (Nijisanji)>24,332: Miko (Hololive)>24,026: Subaru (Hololive)>19,444: Toya (Nijisanji)>19,355: Hayato (Nijisanji)>18,724: Miko (Hololive)>16,331: Aqua (Hololive)>16,259: Ange (Nijisanji)>14,830: Okayu (Hololive)>14,355: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>14,092: Kanae (Nijisanji)>14,050: Watame (Hololive)>13,992: Suisei (Hololive)>13,467: Gatchman (Indie)>13,446: Rion (Nijisanji)>13,178: Rushia (Hololive)>12,973: Flare (Hololive)>12,427: Mio (Hololive)>12,405: Kiara (Hololive)>11,220: Kanata (Hololive)>10,183: Towa (Hololive)Much like this year, NIjisanji was flying hot. Ibrahim got his gold with the draw for the eSoccer tournament with a sweep at the podium with Hal getting silver with a HIkakin-Kuzuha collab and Fuwa finishing the podium with his morning taiso.The fact the month didn't go Nijisanji's way was unexpected, but only in hindsight because there was no tally back then
>>29953914wasn't magni the guy that shared homo fanart on his roomate's twitter?
>>29961775Have I been fucking bamboozled?
amelia sucks
So will any future holoen gens have someone break out faster than IRyS did initially or have those days been long over?
>>29961804Aqua stream?
>>29961911HoloEN is way past its peak. Look at the subcounts for each Tempus member.
>>29961962Retard.
>>29961942Karaoke. If you expand the imagine the thumbs and titles are there
>>29961877Anon... Restia is the cat>>29960809he can control and do a very good girl voice for the cat-girl
>>29961911Not sure, Council got kneecapped by cull but that won't effect EN3. IRyS might be a bit too high since she was on the tail end of the vtuber boom and highly anticipated after almost a year since Myth.
>>29961911EN3's blue cunny>>29961962Tempus isn't part of HololiveEN, though? If they were part of HoloEN, people would have mocked their 4-7k numbers to death instead of praising them for performing better than expectations
>>29962034>and highly anticipated after almost a year since Myth.and right off the back of coco
>>29962034How do we start the 2nd vtuber boom?
Where's my nijicure update?
>>29962100Nijisanji in the process right now. It's mostly happening in Korea and SEA though.
>>29962100Salome and Kobo should have collabed a month ago for that.
Above is the Vod from 4 days ago, below is the one from yesterday. Already beaten by around 10k with nearly 20k off difference, and the length of the VOD is nearly the same as well. There was absolutely nothing happening yesterday that would warrant people to jump off the stream then come back, so I don't know what to think about that.
>>29962123Silly Selen, you already have a better fangame. No need for some shitty Vampire Survivors clone.
>>29962100Fads don't usually have "2nd boom".
>>29962100Some kind of new shift in media. Initially for vtubers, it was short recorded and edited videos and then livestreams. What comes next might be VR if was actually widely adopted but there isn't any new compelling format in VR yet except maybe live events? Until that happens, livestreaming is here to stay.